5-6-24 - *FULL SHOW* So much braindamage; drinking coffee as God intended

Episode Transcript

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Our weekend was good, including oneof the highlights was going to see Jamie
Lisso who was in studio with meon Friday over at Comedy Works. We
saw him on Saturday night and hewas really, really funny. Anyway,
we did a bunch of stuff,but I got a lot of news.
I just want to jump right in. You know, I normally warm up
slowly on a Monday. You know, where the engine's not warm yet,

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your brain engine is not warm yet. You got to go slow in first
gear and then eventually, you know, go to second gear, third gear
and speed up. But I thinktoday like you ever see the movie Spaceballs
and the captain on this ship says, prepare for Ludacris speed, and then

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the other guy says, don't prepare, just go. So that's what we're
doing here this morning. We arenot preparing for Ludacris speed. We are
just going to Ludacris speed. Solet's start with some news. First of
all, you heard Pat just talkingabout the Donald Trump so called hush money
trial. That thing is going on. There have been a lot of witnesses

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that I would say, on thesurface, appear to have significantly hurt Donald
Trump and tied him closer to thewhole hush money payment thing, and YadA,
YadA, YadA. I still maintainthat there is a really significant underlying
legal flaw to the case being broughtby the prosecution that cannot legitimately be overcome.

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But that doesn't mean a jury won'tfind him guilty because it's a New
York jury and the judge is makinga lot of decisions that I think are
wrong as a matter of law.So I still think there's a decent chance
of a hung jury. I thinkthere's no chance of an outright acquittal.
I think there's a decent chance ofa hung jury, a decent chance of

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a conviction, and a decent chanceof an appeals court overturning the conviction.
We will see. The other thing, as Pat mentioned, is that Donald
Trump has the gag order on himthat is much too broad. Again,
this judge clearly doesn't like Donald Trumpand is making some bad decisions. In
any case, there's a gag order, and last week Donald Trump was fined

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nine thousand dollars for nine separate violationsof the gag order, And today the
judge says it's clear that one thousanddollars a violation isn't deterring you from breaking
the gag order, and that mustbe the maximum he can impose under the
law because there's been no conversation aboutmaking the fine bigger. So he's saying,
if you do it again, I'mgonna have to consider jailing you.
It would be very interesting, actually, if Donald Trump has Secret Service protection.

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It would be rather interesting to seewhat happens if somebody comes to try
to take him away. If thejudge says, bailiff, you know,
take him away, and the secretWhat if this Secret service says, oh
no, you don't right, thatcould be That could be pretty fascinating,
and I imagine even this judge wouldwould like to avoid that. In any
case, we'll keep an eye onit. One other thing I would say

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is the gag order is way overbroad, and I can imagine a legitimate gag
order against Donald Trump for saying thingsabout, for example, the judge's family,
all right, and doing things thatmight cause let's say the judge's daughter
to become the subjective threats. Iget that the judge has gone much too

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far in saying who Trump can andcan't talk about, but that doesn't mean
that Donald Trump should be going outof his way to violate the gag order.
It makes him look really bad topeople who remember remember this politically,
this is all about the people inthe middle who could swing either way.
They could they could vote for Biden, they could vote for Trump. Probably
anyone who was in that category wouldnot vote for either one enthusiastically. They're

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just trying to pick what they seeas the lesser of the two evils at
this point, all right, becausethat's those are whose swing voters are right
now. And for Donald Trump tonot be able to shut up and keep
getting these violation or you know,and these fines from the judge is just
another small, small, yes,but small strike against him in the minds

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of these people who are undecided.And it shows this character flaw on Donald
Trump that we've known about for along time, which is the dude can't
shut up. And you think aboutthat Egen Carroll case that he lost something
like eighty million dollars in the defamationthing against Egen Carroll. He came out
and said something about her initially,and she said that's not true, and

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you've damaged my reputation and I'm goingto sue you for that, and and
he lost, and he did itagain and lost millions of dollars more.
And the dude just can't shut up. His ego gets in the way of
whatever brain he's got left, andhe's just got to calm it down.
Right. I understand you want tospeak your piece, and you also think

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there's some political upside from speaking yourpiece and all this, but just be
smarter about it, right, Besmarter about it. Donald from National Review
from and Within the last hour,Columbia University canceled its university wide commencement ceremony
for twenty twenty four graduates in favorof smaller scale, school based celebrations.

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The university said today after anti Israelprotests have rocked its campus for weeks.
Columbia made the decision over security concerns, almost a week after the NYPD evacuated
and arrested over one hundred pro Palestinianprotesters on campus. YadA, YadA,
YadA. Let's see. The statementfrom Columbia says, our students emphasized when

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they were asked that these smaller scale, school based celebrations are most meaningful to
them and their families. They areeager to cross the stage to applause and
family pride and hear from their schoolsinvited guest speakers. As a result,
we were focused on resources on thoseschool ceremonies and on keeping them safe,
respectful, and running smoothly. Sofor those who don't understand what this means,

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so Columbia University is enormous, right, So you will have Columbia College,
which is what probably a lot ofpeople think of as Columbia University.
It's just a small part of ColumbiaUniversity. I don't know how many people
are at Columbia University ten twenty that'sprobably more twenty thousand, some big number
like that, and the college isaround four thousand. Right when I was

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in college, the class I thinkwas less than a thousand people per year.
So the college is small. Thenthere's the engineering school, and there's
a law school and a medical schooland a business school and all in all
teachers College and all this other stuff. So what they're saying is, you
know, each of these divisions willhave their own their own graduation. But

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I just I hate to see thebad guys win. And this is the
bad guys winning. And even ifthe university wants to put lipstick on the
pig and say, well, thekids have said that these smaller ceremonies are
more meaningful to them. Remember that. And again I'm clearly giving the caveat

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that there will be some kind ofgraduation ceremonies here, right, But these
kids did not have high school graduationbecause of COVID. Very many of these
kids did not have a high schoolgraduation ceremony, and now their college graduation
experience is going to be curtailed dueto a bunch of ignoramuses and anti semites.
And I think that sucks. AndI think the president of Columbia University

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minus Chafik, who allowed it toget here, I think she needs to
go. I think the people whohired her need to go unless they come
out with explicit statements saying that we'regoing to start hiring based on certain characteristics
they don't have to do with which, you know, what kind of genitals
you have, and whether you're awoman or a man, you know,

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and whether you're gay or straight,or whether you're foreign or whatever. I
mean, Look, this is goingto be a little bit contentious, but
I and I'm not saying I knowthe answer, but I wonder if it's
a coincidence that some of the placesthat have had the worst outcomes and have
had the worst ethical lapses, likeColumbia and Penn and MIT and USC,

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all of these places have women astheir school presidents. And it's not.
The problem is not that women can'tbe tough. Women can be incredibly tough.
Witness my mom, a Navy admiral. Right, women can be incredibly
tough. But I think they arehiring women because they're women and focusing on

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things other than what universities really needto do. They haven't been focusing on
education. They haven't been They've beenfocusing on creating a generation of woke little
social justice warriors. And these arewe are now reaping the whirlwind of what
these people have sown and the needto stop sowing it. Folks, do

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to almost every interview as a standalonepodcast. Ay Rod, why are you

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wearing a nice shirt and a tieright now? That is not normally the
attire I see you in early inthe morning. I am going to the
Nuggets game tonight covering it for allof our KOA social channels. It's gonna
be a lot of fun. Two. Are you required to dress well?
Or do you dress well because youlike to look like a professional when you're
doing that stuff. The latter,I mean you're not allowed to go in

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with, you know, looking likea bum. Right, but I take
it up a notch. You dolook very you look very good. You
look very good. Thank you?All right? So we got a ton
of other stuff to do today.You know what, This is just a
fun short story that I'm gonna sharewith you. So you know that for
some reason, uh, people onthe political left, and I don't know

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why this would be a thing onthe left, but it is love high
speed rail. And I think partof it is because they have an obsession
with forcing people out of their cars. They want to force you onto trains
and buses, and if you're goinga longer distance, they want to force
you onto high speed rail because ifyou're going hundreds of miles, they know

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nobody's gonna do low speed rail,so they're gonna waste a bunch of money
on it here in Colorado. Butat least and this is not sarcastic,
at least here in Colorado. Whenthey're going down that road, they're talking
about the high speed rail line sharingtrack that already exists with one of the

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big industrial train companies like Burlington,Northern, Santa Fe or whatever, I
don't know which one it is,but sharing track and then they just have
to coordinate, you know, whattrain is on the track at what time.
The way at air traffic controller mightcontrol who's on a particular runway at
some time. Okay, so Ithink what Colorado is doing is dumb and

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a waste of money, but it'snowhere near what California has done. This
is from the New York Post.California is taking heat for celebrating the completion
of a high speed rail bridge thatclearly goes nowhere, part of a one
hundred billion dollar boondoggle project. Critics, including Elon Musk and the founder of

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doge coin Guy named Billy Marcus,are ripping the California High Speed Rail Authority
after it boasted about the completion ofa Fresno River viaduct, a mere sliver
of the state's long delayed bullet trainedproject attempting to link San Francisco with Los
Angeles. Mister Marcus said, quote, this is the most remarkable human achievement
ever. One thousand feet, No, sixteen hundred feet. I don't want

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to sell them short. Sixteen hundredfeet of high speed rail after nine years
and eleven billion dollars. It takesabout five minutes to walk sixteen hundred feet,
so a high speed rail for thatis a really big deal. And

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if you see a picture of thisthing, basically there's a river. The
Presno river, and it's this fairlywide, nice looking cement structure that I
guess has rails on it or willhave rails on it or something I don't
know, and it goes over thebridge, but each end of it just
dead ends into nothing. It justends in the middle of a field on

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each side. It's not connected toanything. And it took the nine years
and eleven billion dollars. Actually,actually the rail authority there says that that
particular part of the project only tookthree years to three years to build sixteen
hundred feet in an area where there'sYeah, they do have to get over

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a river for part of it,but there's no houses, there's no obstructions,
there's no there's no nothing. Sothere's already eleven billion dollars sunk into
this overall project and it's not goingit's not going anywhere. This thing was
supposed to hear reported estimates to completethe rail line that are are about one

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hundred billion dollars at this point.I think the original estimate was something like
thirty five billion dollars, and itwas supposed to be done kind of sort
of soon, and now they're talkingabout one hundred billion dollars and maybe not
done for another thirty years, fortyyears. It's absolutely insane, and federal
taxpayers are paying for some of it, along with Californians who for some reason

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keep electing the same kind of peopleover and over and expecting a different outcome.
But it is a fun story.A bridge to nowhere that took nine
well took three years, and sofar they spend eleven billion dollars, about
a third of the initial proposed budget, and done something like one percent of
the distance that they say they're goingto cover it. It really is absolutely

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unbelievable. By the way, evenif this thing became operational, based on
the number of people who would belikely to ride it, the cost per
per ride, and I don't meanwhat they would charge people, but what
it would cost the system something onthe order depending on your estimate, five,

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seven, ten, twelve thousand dollarsper ride. And they're talking about
trying to charge one hundred dollars aride. So even if they build it,
it's going to run at massive lossesforever. This is just completely insane.
Speaking of completely insane, when wecome back, I'm going to share
with you some of the incredible audiofrom an interview that Mandy did on Friday.

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pictures of Red Rocks Amphitheater, covenSnow and they said tonight's show was canceled.
So if you were planning on goingto Red Rocks tonight, don't go.
Try to get a ticket to theNuggets game. Instead. You will
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hi to a Rod who will bedressed very very well. Congratulations to the
Colorado Rockies for ending a remarkable historicstreak. I guess this was on Friday
night. They beat the Pittsburgh Piratesthree to two, and at no point
in that game did they trail.They were never behind in that game.

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It was the first time this seasonthat the Rockies did not trail at some
point in the game. They trailedat some point. It doesn't mean they
lost them all, but at somepoint they trailed in the first thirty one
games this season. I bet youthat that is a record that I mean,

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I know never is a long time. I bet you that record will
not be broken this century and maybeand maybe never because the record they Broke
was from the Saint Louis Browns fromnineteen ten, and that was only twenty
eight games, so they passed thatby three. So from nineteen ten till
now, nobody had even gotten totwenty nine and the Rockies got to thirty

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one. But congratulations on breaking thatstreak. All right. I don't do
a ton of this, but thisis so freaking brilliant I need to share
some with you. On Friday,my friend and colleague Mandy Connell did an
interview with a dude whose name escapesme, Mark Hampton or something like that,

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and Julie Hayden, whose name iswell known to those who have imbibed
Colorado media. For many years.Julie and her husband Chuck were fixtures in
Colorado media here on KOA and thenelsewhere for quite some time. I don't
believe that they are on the air, at least not regularly anymore. But

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anyway, Julie and this guy,I think his name was Mark, but
Julie did most of the talking.We're on with Mandy as representatives of a
website called Rhino Watch Rino and allcapital letters, which stands for Republicans in
name only, and Mandy is reallyreally hoping to be put on their wall
of shame because Mandy is in facta Republican. So if they want to

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call her a rhino, I guessthey could. You can't call me a
rhino because I don't claim to bea Republican, right So to be a
Republican in name only, you haveto be a Republican in name, and
I'm not, and I haven't beena Republican in a long time. Although
I have been a Republican and I'venever been I've been a Libertarian. Also,

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I've never been a Democrat. SoMandy had these folks on because they
run a really stupid website, andI'm all right, I apologize for that.
That's not fair to stupid websites.These folks run a website where it

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says if you had a bunch oftenth grade mean girls, try who were
not very bright, picking on Idon't know the nerds or the Chess club
or just the normal people. Andlike I said, I wish that they

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would put me on their wall ofshame too, But since I'm not a
Republican, they can't call me arhino. And as dishonest as they are,
they know they might not get awaywith that one calling someone who a
rhino who doesn't even claim to beRepublican. But anyway, Mandy had these
folks on and the conversation is justfascinating. And if you go to kaa

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webpage and just click on Mandy's show, you can you can listen to it.
I should have linked it in myblog and I didn't yet, but
I will in the next break becauseI meant to, so you can easily
find this. Also if you afterthe next break, if you go to
Rosskominsky dot com, I'll have alink there. And I just want to
share a little of the audio withyou. So this is or very early

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on in the conversation when Mandy isasking these two people, well, what
exactly is a rhino? And Mandy'strying to dig into this concept of,
well, what is a Republican thename only? Or maybe if we're going
to define that, maybe we needto get a definition of what is there
a true Republican one that isn't Republicanin name only. But she's trying to
get to this idea of what isa Republican and what is a rhino?

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And the first voice you'll hear iskind of the second half of I think
his name is Mark Hampton's answer,and then you'll hear more with Mandy and
Julie. But the platform could constantlychange is and what we what we find
is people that end up with thelabel rhino can't see the change or don't
want to change. They want tohold fast to something twenty years ago.

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What is it though? But I'masking for a definition, Well, what
you're talking about, Well, definitionof a non rhino Republican, non running
Republican would be somebody who say,supports the Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump.
Of a non rhino would be somebodywho supports the duly elected chairperson of the

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called the writer of Republican Party,Dave Williams, who supports, as Mark
said, the party platform, whois not so obsessed but hanging on with
their fingernails to a little bit ofpower and money remain out there that they're
willing to trash everybody else. Soone of the things that's interesting about that,
and I think that everybody who listenedto that would would understand the same

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thing is what Julie just said isand what Mark said is, no matter
how the platform changes, and nomatter who is put up as a nominee,
and no matter who is elected tobe chair of the party, you
are a Republican in name only ifyou don't just blindly support anything and everything

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that the Republican leadership or figureheads atthat moment decide they want it to they
want the party to be or torepresent. And if that's the definition,
then I would say that generally speaking, the so called rhinos are the ones

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who should be proud of them,and these people should be ashamed of themselves
because they don't stand for anything anythingexcept their own power. And they keep
trying to turn it around. AndI have one other audio clip that I'll
share with you in a second,but these folks keep trying to turn it
around as if the so called rhinosare are are the grifters. But that's

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not what's happening here. It reallyis a remarkable thing to hear and the
analogy that comes to mind, AndI've used this analogy before and it's probably
not bad enough for the president ofthe Bad Analogy Club. A lot of
people treat or approach politics the waythey approach sports, and sometimes it's harmless

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to do that. But that doesn'tmean it's a good idea. And what
do I mean by that? Whatdo I mean by that? What I
mean is if you're a hardcore fanof a particular sports team, more often
than not, you're gonna side withthem at every opportunity, even in areas

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that are kind of gray and whereif you were completely objective you might not
side with them. A harmless examplewould be that there's a penalty. Let's
stick with football, there's a penaltyflag thrown, and and it's against your

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team, you're much more likely tosay, oh, that's a ridiculous call.
That's a terrible call, right,Or if it's against the other team,
you would say great call. Whereasif you saw the exact same flag
thrown on the exact same play,but it was between two teams that you

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didn't care about, you might havereacted differently. You might have said that's
a bad call, or at leastthat's an if he call, versus when
it helped your team, you'd sayit was a great call. And now
that's a sort of harmless example.But what about the next example. What

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about when a team is cheating?What about if you have a team,
what about if you're a supporter ofa team that has caught stealing signals,
deflating footballs, using too much stickham. If you guys, remember what's his
face? The Oakland Raiders cornerback backin the day, and I'm having a

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brain cramp on his name. Somebodyremind me of the name of the Oakland
Raiders cornerback. I want to sayLeleroy, but from the eighties, who
got in trouble for having too muchstick them on his gloves. If you
remember that. I know I'm datingmyself here, But so you've got a
team now that's caught cheating, andif it's your team, you're not likely

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to say that's good, keep doingit. You're likely to say stuff like,
well, it's not that big adeal, or it didn't help him
that much, or other teams doit too, or just look for ways
to rationalize it. That again,if you were watching something that wasn't your
team, you'd say that's terrible,Like that wrecks the game, It wrecks

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the integrity of the game. Iterodes the foundation of the NFL or the
or MLB or whatever sport you wantto talk about. And these people approach
politics that way. Which is tosay everybody knows. I mean everybody,

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even the people who support, forexample, Dave Williams, who's the chairman
of the Colorado Republican Party, eventhe people who support him know that he's
a liar and a cheater and agrifter who has no business running the Colorado
Republican Party. Which is a verydifferent question as to whether he should be

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in Congress, and I think hehas no business being in Congress either.
But the idea that this guy isgoing to keep running the party and use
the party apparatus and try to changethe party rules and try to set up
a stupid questionnaire, this ultra magakind of questionnaire and portray it as if
it's a legit thing so he can, while running the party, try to

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manipulate the Republican Party to benefit himand almost solely him, Him and one
or two of his creepiest, griftiest, cheatiest worst friends, like Ron Hanks,
who's running the third Congressional district forthe primary out there. I'll tell
you what if Ron Hanks. IfI lived in the third Congressional District and

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Ron Hank's got the nomination for theRepublican Party, I'd vote for the Democrat.
I have never voted for a Democratfor any federal office or any legislative
office. I told you the storybefore. I've once voted for a Democrat,
and that was for sheriff after hedid a great job for four years.
Anyway, enough about Hanks. SoJulie Hayden and her comrade Marked from

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Rhino Watch are saying, the onlyreal Republicans are those who will support whatever
the nominal source of authority within theRepublican Party is at that time. And
so even if your party nominates aterrible person like Dave Williams, or a

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cheater like Dave Williams, or changesthe party platform in a way that disagrees
with your fundamental values and that youthought the party always stood for. And
I'll give an example. The RepublicanParty has long been the party of free
trade. I know a lot ofpeople don't care about that anymore. What

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if, just speaking to the moreright wing people listening to me right now,
what if there was a different kindof drift for the Republican Party and
suddenly the new Republican leadership stripped outany reference to abortion in the party platform,
said we don't want to have anythingto do with it anymore, you'd
be pretty pissed off. And you'reprobably the kind of person who hates the

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Rhinos. You hate Mitt Romney,And if I were a Republican, you'd
hate me for that. What ifsuddenly the Republican Party took out any reference
to abortion or defending the Second Amendmentand now and now, the liberal Republicans
who are running the party are goingto come along and call you a Republican
in name only because you don't supparthe liberal Republicans who are running the party

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at the time, and the changein the party platform, and you say,
wait a minute, I thought theparty was supposed to stand for something.
Am I supposed to follow the partyblindly and other than And if not,
I'm going to be called a Republicanin name only. No, how
about this. Let's redefine Republican basedon values. And again I do realize

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and that dude Mark said at thebeginning the party platform can change over time,
and values can definitely change over time. I get that. I get
that, but can maybe the RepublicanParty should define itself based on certain values
of individual liberty, economic liberty.And again I'm not anti abortion, but
most of the Republican Party is putthat in respect for the sanctity of life,

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support for the Second Amendment, andlet's define the party based on these
things, then a rhino was goingto be someone. And by the way,
you also shouldn't be called rhino.If if you disagree with something right,
you should be called a rhino.If you disagree with almost everything and
yet still call yourself a Republican,okay, then you're not right. A

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Republican really votes with Democrats on everything, that's a rhino. Like State Senator
Kevin Priola, he was a rhinoand then he switched to become a Democrat,
which is where he actually belonged.I don't want to run out of
time on this other clip, solet me just share this with you.
I'm going a little longer than Iwanted on this, but I'm pretty fired
up. You've you've already said,oh, it's it's it's moving, it's

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flowing, it's it's all of thesethings. But when you move the goalpost
to say, the people who supportleadership are good Republicans, but we supported
her, but then we didn't.So were you a rhino when you didn't
support the leadership. You see whatI'm saying, there's a lot of shifting
fans. So, just so Ididn't give you the very first part of
that clip, Mandy asked these twopeople whether they supported Christy Burton Brown and

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they said, well, at firstwe did, and then we didn't.
And so that's why Mandy is saying, Okay, well it just seems like
it's shifting, like you support herand then you don't, So like,
does it actually do you? Mandy'simplicit question is do you actually represent a
position that has any underlying principles orvalues? Do you actually stand for anything?

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The rhino okay, and I woulddisagree a little bit. A rhino
is somebody who I want to knowthe reactual. I want to know the
republican definition, because if you're goingto say somebody is a Republican in name
only that I want to know thedefinition of what you view as the proper
role or the proper way to bea Republican, because without that, rhino

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doesn't mean anything. Well, youknow what I would say is what I
said. Okay, So I justlistened carefully to in this next bit,
and keep in mind, keep inmind, oh Lester Hayes, Thank you,
David. And I'm sure I gota bunch of texts. I haven't
checked the text one yet, LesterHayes, that's the that's the old Oakland
Raiders cornerback that had too much stickon it. Okay, So Mandy is

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asking what's the definition of true Republicanin order to use that to say,
okay, well, then the nextstep is what's the definition of Republican in
name only? And Julie Hayden,who runs this moronic website or is part
of this moronic website Rhino watch justas Hammon and Hawn and just listen to

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ask yourself this question as you're listeninghere, does Julie Hayden actually answer what
Mandy is asking? Ryder doesn't meananything? Well, you know what I
would say is what I said thata Republican in name only is somebody who
says, oh, I'm a Republicanbecause I like Ronald Reagan and I espouse
Ronald Reagan views. But I hateDonald Trump, and I hate Dave Williams,

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and I hate Lauren Bobert. Thoseare the people, and it's not
just the leadership. Those people wereelected by Republicans, but do you do
you know why they dislike these people? Sure, because if you go back
to what I have always thought asa person who grew up in my dad
was to the right of Rush Limbaugh. I mean, he was stargely conservative.
There are things like family values thatused to matter. There are things

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like a character that used to matter. There are things like fiscal responsibility,
which if that is part of theRepublican platform now, then Donald Trump is
a rhino because he was not physicallyconservative at all when he was in office.
He just exploded the deficit even beforeCOVID happened. So there's a lot
of different look for how to checkthis. Well, what the point is,

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I think in the point of RhinoWatch was that the grassroots activists felt
a collective group of us that thereis really no voice for us. So
there's what it really comes down to, right, Julie thinks that the media
isn't sufficiently supportive of her super wackygriftie Dave Williams cheater brand of Republican Party

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that are trying to squeeze out everyrational person and everybody who likes Ronald Reagan.
That's what Julie Hayden seems to beinvolved with now, by the way,
I believe it was her husband,Chuck, who is involved with trying
to change the Republican the state RepublicanParty's rules so that these people could run

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roughshot over the process and change theparty so that unaffiliated people couldn't participate in
the Republican primary. And these peopleare small minded bullies, They are cheaters,
they are grifters. And I guessat some point, and I don't
have this clip, but a roddoes. At some point, Mandy asked
Julie, Well, given that youdon't seem to have a strong set of

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principles that based on which you definewhat a Republican is, which you would
think would make it a little bitharder to define a republic what a Republican
isn't How do you know if somebodyis a rhino if you have to ask
what a rhino is, and you'reprobably a rhino because otherwise what you say,
Mark people know, right, Listen, folks, this entire wing of

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the Republican Party, and I'm nota Republican, okay, but this entire
wing of the Republican Party, DaveWilliams, Ron Hanks, Tana Peters,
other people who I've long considered friendsof mine, and I won't use their
names on the radio, but theyare a stain on the party. They
are a stain on the state,and they are a stayin in on the

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Constitution of the United States of America. And at best they should be ignored,
but really they should be castigated andcalled out for being the tenth grade
mean girls that they are. I'vegot all of your texts, so many
texts based on the last segment wedid about Mandy's amazing Rhino Watch interview that

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she did on Friday. And Ididn't say this at the time, but
I'm gonna say it now. Whata fabulous job by Mandy. That was
a a brilliant interview, and shedidn't let him get away with anything,
and she called him out for allof their nonsense, and it was just,
you know, part of the reasonthat Mandy is so awesome. So

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let me share something with you here. This is from the Free Press,
and it's a gal named Abigail Schreierwho was a well known writer, probably
more well known on the conservative sidethan the liberal side. She wrote a
book about gender stuff that's quite agood book. But liberals really, really
hated it. In any case,she wrote a piece about free speech and

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I posted this on my website.I think I did, and if not,
you can find it at VFP dotcom. But Abigail Schreier, there
are two sets of rules for speech, and I want to share some of
this with you. I'm going tokind of jump in roughly in the middle
of this thing and not read allof it, just in the interest of
time, but let me just sharesome. In the last two weeks,

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self proclaimed pro Palestinian protesters have setup encampments at dozens of American universities,
heed lists of university restrictions against intimidationand harassment. They demonstrate where, when
and how they like. They crygo back to Poland, baby killers,
and globalize the Intifada. At Jewishstudents, they wave the flags of designated

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terrorist groups like Hesbelah and the PopularFront for the Liberation of Palestine and hold
up signs that beckon al Cassam's nexttargets with an arrow pointing at Jewish protesters
or counter protesters. Al Kassam isthe armed wing of Hamas that carried out
the October seventh massacre on campuses thathave for a decade or more repeated ad
nauseum, the priority one was thecreation of a safe, inclusive, supportive,

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and fair community. The pro Palestiniandemonstrators where wave Hezbola flags, wear
hamas headbands, and conceal their faceswith masks. They ignore all time,
place and manner restrictions on student demonstration. They refuse all demands from universities to
take down their tents or move theirprotests. And at Columbia until last week,

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when protesters took over Hamilton Hall andthe cops were called in, they
almost got away with it. AtUCLA, I don't know if you heard
this story. At UCLA, protestersblocked students from entering the library during mid
terms, asking those who wanted togo in, are you a Zionist?
And then this is the part Idon't know if you heard, but after

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a Jewish girl was reportedly beaten unconsciousby pro Palestinian protesters, I saw this,
by the way, on Twitter.I didn't see I saw the immediate
aftermath of it. She's lying onthe ground unconscious and it was reported that
these protesters had like stomped on herhead. Pro Israel counter protesters at UCLA
arrived in masks and hoodies, shootingoff fireworks, firing teargas, and throwing

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objects at the pro Hamas protesters,and attempting to physically destroy the encampments.
Only then did UCLA calling the policeremove the encampments. Instead of immediately suspending
the proom lost protesters for breaking rulesfor weeks, university administrations chose to negotiate
with them. At Colombia, theadministration offered to review its policy on so
called socially responsible and investing and offeredto quote make investments in health and education

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in Gaza. At Brown, theadministration promised protesters that they would put investment
from Israel on the agenda. AtNorthwestern, the administration meekly tossed rewards,
including promise to establish a full ridescholarship for Palestinian students and guaranteed faculty jobs
for Palestinian academics. I talked aboutthis last week. They need to do

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this for Israeli students and Israeli academics. If they're going to do it for
Palestinians, they need to do itfor Israelis too. At Colombia, protesters
rejected the offers, knowing they hadthe upper hand when police arrived to break
up the encampments. Columbia faculty andorange vests linked arms to form a human
wall against the police, shielding therule breakers. And this gets to a

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topic that we're going to talk abouton another time at another time, But
I just want to point out toyou how much freaking brain damage has been
demonstrated across the country in the pastfew weeks. How much brain damage of
college students has been achieved by thequote unquote best schools, And the most
brain damage is at the best schools, And it proves that the brain damage
is intentional. And we are goingto get to not today probably, but

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we are going to get to talkingabout who's funding all this, Why is
there so much brain damage? Thisgoes beyond just colleges being liberal places.
There is something. I'm not aconspiracy minded guide, but there is something
else going on here, including andagain we're going to talk about this later
in the week with a guest,massive massive funding of American universities by Arab

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countries, including Arab countries that havevery, very radical Islamist elements in their
societies. So in twenty seventeen,some anonymous jerk put flyers up at American
Universities campus, and the flyers hada Confederate flag and a stem of raw
cotton and read huzzah for Dixies forDixie, and American University launched into an

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emergency response mode, and they treatedthe flyers as a criminal threat, and
they actually put out a crime alertin all caps for the arrest of the
guy who put these things up.And the New York Times covered the incident
and never mentioned free speech, butinstead it approvingly noted in a previous incident

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when bananas were founded were found hangingfrom nooses around campus, the FBI had
been called to investigate. So there'smore on this, but the point is
that, you know, this Huzzahfor Dixie things kind of gross. You
know there are limits to free speech, especially on private property. But in

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the face of all that, freespeech was never brought up. It was
just, oh, he might haveoffended somebody, or he might have caused
somebody to feel fear. And asAbigail says, if hazafer Dixie is worth
the full mobilization of university resources andlaw enforcement, then waving the flag of
a terrorist group or writing burn youfilthy zio, meaning like Zionist or Israeli

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or Jew to a student chat,or telling Jewish students to go back to
Poland where millions of Jews were murderedin gas chambers, or pulling down the
American flag over a statue of JohnHarvard and replacing it with the Palestinian flag,
or painting Zio's get and then theF word on Penn's statue of Ben
Franklin, or calling Jews Hitler's children. All of these insults hurled at Jews

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on campus or at least as menacing, and yet, and yet punishment is
meted out swiftly and mercilessly against someonewho puts up a Confederate flag or uses
the N word, or even usesa Chinese word that sounds like the N
word. But these pro Hamas typescan run ad and make overt threats that

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they want old Jews dead, andthese universities do nothing until they absolutely have
to, and then when they do, they do the least that they could
possibly do. And it absolutely hasto stop. And I do think we
have seen the peak of this.I think people are now well woke in

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a good way, awakened to theabsolute rot in American universities we still have
just a ton of stuff to do. You know what, let me just
lighten it up for a second,because we're gonna get back to some slightly
heavier stuff in the next segment.This is a fun piece. This is
linked on my blog. It's bya guy named ted Gyoya Gioia, and

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he actually goes on substack by thename The Honest Broker, which is a
little confusing because a frequent show guestof ours, Roger Pilka Junior from the
University of Colorado, his substack isalso The Honest Broker. They have slightly
different URLs. Anyway, he wrotea piece that I really enjoyed called How
Coffee Became a Joke, and thefirst part I'm not gonna share with you.

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It's basically a long story about howhe grew up, even as a
kid, drinking coffee because his dadwas basically a coffee addict and drinking coffee
from morning till bedtime, like theway you'd think about a chainsmoker who smokes
two packs a day. His dadwas like that with coffee, and this
guy was like that with coffee.So he spends a lot of time talking

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about that, and then he says, I mentioned all this. He says,
I've watched in dismay as coffee gotturned into a joke. I mentioned
this in response to the crisis atStarbucks, which reported ugly financial results on
Tuesday. Sales are down, profitsare down, store traffic's down. Everything
is down. Here are some ofthe headlines. I'll just quote a couple
of the headlines. Starbucks stock plungesfourteen percent after badly missing its second quarter

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earnings estimates. Or Jim Kramer blastStarbucks CEO and CNBC interview after horrible quarter.
I'm stunned. So now, misterJioya makes no sense. How can
you lose when you're selling an addictivesubstance. Even the most brain cell deprived
stoner in your high school class eventuallyfigured out how to deal. When did
they get so clueless in Seattle?Now, I've heard many explanations. Some

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complain that coffee got too expensive,and that's true. Others will point to
the declining quality of the Starbucks experience, and I can't disagree. I've seen
things go down in front of thebarista straight out of the Battle of Stalingrad.
But the biggest problem is one Starbuckscreated. They've turned coffee into something
ridiculous. Every comedian now has afive minute riff on coffee in their routines.

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In a day when it's dicey makingjokes about people, Starbucks comes to
the rescue. Nobody gets offended whenthose silly beverages are jeered. They are
the punchline that keeps on giving.So how did Starbucks become a laughing stock?
Well maybe it started with selling apumpkin spice latte that had zero pumpkin
in it. Whatever the reason,there's something about this beverage that invites mockery

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so much that comedians have actually amoratorium on pumpkin spice latte jokes. Now,
that didn't stop the drink from gaininga sizable hipster following these latte swilling
bros. Should have been a warningsign, but instead of reading the room,
Starbucks pushed ahead with a host ofother goofy drinks. The most recent
idiocy is the Oliato, a drinkthat mixes coffee and olive oil. Hey,

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I love both those things separately,but putting them together is like mixing
oil and well, like mixing oiland coffee, it gets worse. They
want you to drink this dubious hybridwith enhancements. Starbucks recommends that you enjoy
your Starbucks blonde trademark virgin olive oilcoffee with golden foam trademark infused with notes

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of warm toffee, nut and creamyoat milk, to which I respond,
gag trademark me trademark with a trademarkedspoon trademark. I could fill up this
whole article with absurd Starbucks drinks,from the purple and green Mermaid for Reppucino
trademark to the bereft Cinderella latte trademark, which turns into a pumpkin spice knockoff

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long before midnight. Where are thosewicked stepsisters when you need them? If
you care about coffee like me,you cannot take Starbucks seriously. They lost
interest in coffee long ago. Theyare now in the overpriced sugary drink snack
with lots of additives business. It'sno surprise that people mock them. Just
holding a Starbucks cup in your handis now a sign of shallow posturing.

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If you pay attention, you'll seethose coffee cups in countless satirical photos and
illustrations. Alas, I fear thatthis Starbucks fiasco is emblematic of a deeper
malaise. There's a shortage of seriousnesseverywhere in society now. All need to
write about that in more detail ata later point. But so much is
image driven in our influencer culture nowadays, and so little as substance. Sometimes

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it feels like the whole country isslurping frappuccinos trademark in Barbie Land. Maybe
those goofy, sugar filled purple andgreen drinks are all we deserve. I'm
not sure that Starbucks can return fromthis mess, but I will do my
part to restore the solemnity of coffee. No coffee beverage with a trademark sign
will pass my lips. Instead,I'm gonna drink it hot, stinging and

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black, the way God intended.I invite you to join me. Maybe
if we can make coffee serious again, we can fix the other for volities
too. It's a pretty good pieceby ted Gioia over at Substack. It's
linked on my blog at Roskiminski dotcom. I don't like coffee, but
you're welcome to go get a cupright now. And I'm not talking about
all this stuff going on college campuses, with the protests and all that,

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it's a whole other thing. Sothere's a bunch of issues that I'm very
excited to talk with my next guestabout. Neil McCluskey has been a guest
on the show quite a few times. Neil heads up the Center for Educational
Freedom at the Cato institutecato dot org, which is America's premier libertarian think tank.
And I am, just for thesake of full disclosure, an occasional

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financial contributor to the Cato Institute andhave been for many, many years.
So what I want to start first, Neil, Welcome and thanks, thank
for joining us. Oh thanks forhaving me. I'm glad to I was
reading lately about this thing called FAFSA, and I actually have a kid graduating

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high school this month, but he'staking a gap year, so I hadn't
thought about any of these issues directlymyself. But as I'm reading more about
this financial aid cluster bleep, itsounds like the Biden administration's failures are really
negatively impacting lots of people who reallycount on the system. So can you
please explain what FASA is and whatthe problems are? Sure? So FAFSA

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is basically the form that you completeif you want to apply for federal student
aid, and almost everybody applied forfederal student aid because all that aid,
the loans, the grants, thework study are basically built baked into the
price of every college and the university, with a few exceptions Hillsdale College doesn't

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participate in student aid, Grove Cityand one or two others, but that
leaves thousands of others that are partof it. And what happened was in
the year twenty twenty, the forumwas simplified. This had been a goal
of Senator Lamar Alexander, who hadalso been a governor, he had been
a university president, and had beenhis goal for a long time was to

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take this form that was about onehundred and eight questions and reduce it down
to its around forty questions now andsome people will have to answer even fewer
those. And the idea was notonly would they reduce the number of questions,
but a lot of income data thatyou used to fill in yourself would
be imported automatically from the IRS.It changed how some of the calculations of

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what a family was expected to contribute. Now it's changed other things, Like
it used to be if you hadtwo kids in school at the same time,
it was basically like you got doublethe student aid. That's gone.
How they count farm income other thingslike that have changed. But this was
all supposed to go into effect buyI think it was about twenty twenty three.

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It was definitely supposed to be inworking for this group, so the
group of students who would be startingthe twenty twenty four to twenty twenty five
school year, and basically the USDepartment of under of Education under President Obama
totally, I'm sorry, under PresidentBiden totally dropped the ball. It was

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not ready. It had constant errors. They tried to roll it out by
the statutory first day it was supposedto be ready to go. They did
it, but it was a totalfailure. They had to go to schools
after a while and say please ignorewhat was just calculated because we were calculating
things wrong. And so we're nowat the point where people are supposed to
be getting their acceptances and the finaltheir financial aid notices, and it's all

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messed up, so people don't knowwhat they're going to be paying for college
because simplification It's never simple. Whenthe federal government does it, it just
becomes complex and just a fundamental question. Here is this system basically a requirement
in most situations for kids who aretrying to get financial aid or kids who

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are trying to get a discount oncollege in some way, or there's kind
of no other way and you haveto go through this. That's pretty much
it. There are few private collegesthat use something in addition to this called
the CSS and college something. Ican't remember what the acronym means, but
for the vast majority of people,they use FAFSA, and most of what

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a college might do is in additionto that. So if you want student
aide, you need to be completingFAFSA. Almost everywhere, there's a headline
over at the Associated Press, expertsfear quote unquote catastrophic college declines thanks to
botched FAFSA rollout, And they're talkingabout how many fewer kids or even a

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I guess applying. I don't knowif it's how many kids, if fewer
kids are applying to college, orhow many fewer kids have tried to go
through the FAFSA system, But doesthis have the potential to actually keep kids
from going to college this year whootherwise would if the system worked. Oh,
I think yeah, I think itvery much does because when you go

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to college, as you know,because you've got a kid who's looking at
college, perfect year to have agap year by the way, Yeah,
I hope the Department of Education fixesthis within the next year. But if
you need to pay for college andyou don't know how you're going to do
it because the federal government completely screwedup the system they put in place,
there's a very good chance you'll sayI'm not going this year. Maybe there'll

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be people say and I'm not goingto go in future years. So yes,
this is almost certain to have abig impact on people who might have
gone to college, at the veryleast putting it off for another year.
This is are you a from atechnical perspective, even worse than the failure

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of the launch of the Obamacare websitewhen when that came out that I think
didn't take as long to fix oncethe errors were found as this and and
the other thing I read that thecontractor was hired to do FASTA has been
telling the government all along that youwere trying to get us to do stuff
that is much more difficult than youunderstand. You're trying to get us to

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do it faster than it can bedone. This is not going to work
out well. And and they werewarns they don't really Look, I'm I'm
not here to defend government contractors whooften don't do a very good job and
do it for that for a lotof money. But it sure seems like
the Biden administration was warned, Yeah, this is all on the Biden administration.

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This is not the fault of contractors. They knew this was coming,
they had years prepare for it.But what we saw the Department of Education
doing instead was focusing on mass cancelationof student debt of people who already had
student loans. And there was somereporting in the last six months or so
that suggested that, yes, therewas concrete evidence that at the Department of

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Education they directed resources that should havebeen used and could have been used for
simplification and put them into these unconstitutionalfor the most part, mass cancelation initiatives.
So not only is it hard toblame the contractors, it's even hard
to say that, well, okay, maybe the Department of Education didn't have

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the wherewithal to begin with. Whatit appears primarily happened was the Department of
Education deprioritized this basic part of itsjob. The form by which anybody going
to college who wants student aid appliesfor that aid was neglected. And I
think you're probably right, although I'dhave to go back and look at the

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timeline. This may have been goingon longer as a disaster than the Obamacare
roll out. And I think themain reason we don't hear as much about
it is Obamacare was obviously a hugenational bit whether we should have it at
all. It affects, you know, potentially almost everybody eventually, whereas FAPs
as a smaller share of the population. But it is a huge failure.

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And unlike Obamacare, which you saywe passed and we need to implement it
really fast, they've known about thisfor years, right, They've known about
it for years, and instead ofdoing it, they're doing things that are
probably illegal, at least many ofthem. In fact, when we talk
about that a little bit, andfor those just joining, we're talking with
Neil McCluskey, who's the director ofthe Center for Educational Freedom at the Cato

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Institutecato dot Org. I heard yourconversation with with Caleb Brown the Cato Daily
podcast, which is in my listof podcasts that I never miss and so
one of the things I wanted toask why and this came up in that
conversation at least some of the studentloan I hate the term forgiveness. They're

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not forgiving it. They're just makingother people pay for it. Right.
In fact, just give us amoment on kind of the high level issue
here and then we'll get to theother stuff. Oh yeah, wow.
So the main thing is I'm notgoing to try and explain to you all
the different avenues by which they're tryingto forgive these loans, because they're myriad.
But and I like to use theword cancel. That's not quite right

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either. What they've done is cancelingthe repayment of the people who chose to
take out the loans so they couldget a college degree that would greatly increase
their lifetime earnings. So forgiveness soundsso nice. Cancel sounds a little more
technocratic. And what the Biden administrationis doing is they're basically saying all sorts

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of people who may owe for thecollege education that they've already gotten or at
least that they were, you know, participating in. Some of them didn't
finish, so maybe they didn't getthe degrees, but they're already doing post
secondary study on in part taxpayer dollar. They're saying, well, that was
kind of not fair or it's sortof a burden, and so you shouldn't

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have this burden, and it's saying, so we're going to cancel as much
of that as we can. Ithink the last I saw, they've canceled
about one hundred and sixty eight billiondollars of student debt, you know,
give or take a few billion,because once you get into that size,
what's a rounding error, And there'strillions of dollars of federal student debt,

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and they're basically saying, so youshouldn't have to repay it because we think
it's too much of a burden.But when you don't repay it, the
taxpayer eats that burden. That moneywas due to taxpayers. The federal government
budgeted as if they were going tohave it, and so we know that
taxpayers were already on the hook foraround two hundred billion dollars or so in

(58:58):
student loan losses before all this cancelation, and then of course to the president
a year and a half ago ortwo years ago, I can't remember exactly
when he announced it, but said, I'm going to do mass forgiveness of
everybody, almost everybody, ninety fivepercent of borrowers. We're going to get
ten thousand, twenty thousand dollars takingoff their loans. No matter what he
said, he'd do that under somethingcalled the Heroes Act. Supreme Court said

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that was unconstitutional. So now he'strying a whole bunch of different avenues to
do the same thing. Give usa sense, and it's probably different.
Base. You said, there aremyriad avenues that are using to transfer this
debt to taxpayers. But and sothe answer might be different depending on the
different methods. Give us the senseof the relative either incomes or wealth or

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expected incomes or wealth of the peoplefor whom these debts are being forgiven.
Right, are we forgiving a tenthousand dollars loan for a person who only
makes thirty thousand dollars a year?Or are we forgiving loans for people who
make three hundred thousand dollars year.Well, it does vary a lot by
program, how you qualify some ofthat as income. Some of it is

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well that something happened at the schoolin which you're enrolled, and if it
happened to school, then you getthe money back. But some of his
biggest programs, for instance, hechanged something called income driven repayment to something
called save, which greatly decreases howmuch you're expected to repay. He is

(01:00:30):
talking about more kind of mass forgiveness, and in one of the larger forgiveness
or cancelation proposals, he said,if you are an individual filer making up
to one hundred and twenty thousand dollarsor a married filer making up to two
hundred and forty thousand dollars, youwill qualify for debt cancelation. It doesn't

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mean it's your whole amount, butyou'll get some amount. The mean income
family income in the United States isaround seventy five thousand, so you're talking
about people who are making far inexcess of what the average American is.
Again, it a lot will dependon the program who gets what amounts.
But if you're talking about and we'veseen actually some estimates that I think put

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it above a family income of threehundred thousand dollars, but the administration itself
says up to two hundred and fortythousand dollars. That's almost everybody would be
eligible in some way for some amountof cancelation that the taxpayers end up eating.
Unbelievable. So I'm so infuriated byall this. You know, my

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parents worked very hard to put methrough college. They paid for all of
it. I came out of itwith no debt. I've saved up for
my kids' college and they probably cango unless they go to the most expensive
colleges in America. They'll be ableto get through with no debt because I've
been saving since they were born.And I know so many people who either

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got loans and paid them all off, or didn't go to college and instead
started a business. And now you'regoing to tell you know some successful guy.
And I mean a lot of timespeople who are in the trades are
used as these examples, as ifno plumbers went to college. My electrician
actually has a biology degree from auniversity. But you know, a lot
of these people who just decided toactually go be productive members of society are

(01:02:21):
now going to have to pay offall or part of the student loans of
that lunatic young woman at Columbia whowas saying that the protests needed to be
catered. If Colombia didn't want thestudents who took over Hamilton Hall to die
of dehydration, we're going to payoff her loans. It's infuriating. Anyway,
You got anything to say just aboutthat. That's more of a gut

(01:02:44):
feeling thing. Oh well, Iagree, it's infuriating. I think I'd
be especially angry if one I wassomebody who took on debt and said I
am going to responsibly pay pay thisback in the often it was a ten
year plan that I was that Iagreed to. Some people go even faster

(01:03:05):
because they don't want that debt hangoverthem. And now there's an administration saying,
oh, it's too much a burdenfor just about anyone with debt,
so we'll just cancel it. Andso the responsible people end up suffering for
what they did. And if youeconomized on college, if you said,
I may go to the less expensiveschool that doesn't have the you know,
the climbing wall and water park thatI would like to have, but I

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don't want to pay the prices thatgo with that. You're also going to
feel like, oh, well,I was kind of a chump because I
avoided debt, and now the taxpayersare just paying off the debt of people
who chose that school that had lotsof the fun stuff that I turned down.
Unbelievable. Neil McCluskey, Director ofthe Center for Education Educational Freedom at
the Cato Institute Cato dot org.Check out all their fine work and their

(01:03:52):
great scholars there. Neil, thanksso much for your time. Go to
leave it there. We'll talk againsoon. All right, that's great stuff,
folks. This whole fasta thing iskind of unbelievable. I mean,
this is a system that is necessaryfor student loan applications for financial not student

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loan applications. No, no,let me clarify, not student loan applications,
financial aid applications. So, youknow, getting the college to say,
okay, well, it's usually thirtythousand dollars a year to go here,
but we're gonna give you this andthat and we're gonna make it fifteen
for you, right, And sothis is a system that generally there's no
other way to get financial aid thanthat. And the Biden administration is known

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for over three years that this neededto be modernized, and instead of doing
it, they spent all their timeillegally trying to make you pay off other
people's college debts and now don't havethe system ready so that again the kids
who most need, the rich kidsaren't really impacted by it. Right,

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if your dad's a millionaire and you'vegot plenty of money and you're not,
you don't need financial aid. You'regonna pay the full You don't care about
this. But what about the kidwho's you know, whose parents are our
blue collar, middle income workers.And this kid's really smart and getting into
a good school but can't afford topay the full ride and actually almost certainly

(01:05:15):
will get help from the college sothat they can go the college really wants
them. But the system doesn't workbecause of the Biden administration. This is
not just me looking to blame theBiden administration for something. This is clearly
one hundred percent the Biden administration's faultby diverting resources away from something they knew
they needed to do. And nowyou've got thousands and thousands and thousands and

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tens of thousands, maybe hundreds ofthousands of college applicants who at this point
when they should know where they're goingin just a few months to college,
do not know because they don't knowif they will be able to afford it
because the Biden administration screwed the poochaon this system. Isn't that amazing?

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Absolutely amazing? All right, letme switch gears here. This is really
really interesting breaking news. Let meknow as soon as you have this.
I'm seeing breaking news here on Fox. I want to try to take it
if we can. But in anycase, the AP is reporting that Hamas

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is telling mediators that they will acceptIsrael's cease fire terms. This is a
very interesting turn of events because whatI was about to tell you, and
literally I was just about to tellyou this, and then I look up
at the screen and see that.So what I was about to tell you
is that is that we learned thismorning that Israel, the Israeli Army,

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ordered more than one hundred thousand Palestiniansto evacuate from the southern city of Rafa,
to move to attended camp away fromthe city so they won't get hurt,
implying that Israel is finally, atlong last, about to go into
Rafa. And kill as many moreHamas bastards as they can. And absolutely

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key as Key is killing them.Is destroying the tunnels that go from the
southern side of Gaza, at thesouthern end of Gaza into the Sinai Desert
in Egypt. And these are tunnelsthat Hamas uses to resupply with weapons and
other things from Egypt, and Israelneeds to find those and destroy those.
So just hours ago, Israel basicallysays, get ready, we're going in

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and now we see this, Let'sjust see what Fox News has going Bureau
of the Maas Movement, they callthemselves the movement. I had a phone
call with the Katari Prime Minister andthe Egyptian Minister of Intelligence and inform them
that Hamasa's movements approval of their proposalregarding the ceasefire agreement. They're not giving

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back all the hostages though. No, I just put myself in the mind
of one of these hostages family.I follow a few of them, and
I read the things they say everyday. You know, as I mentioned
Kafir and Aeriel Beavis, those sweetlittle redheaded boys. We've shown their picture.
I don't know how many times Israelhas said that there are about one
hundred and thirty hostages unaccounted for,and they believe a quarter of them are
dead. I hope that's not thecase. And I just am imagining being

(01:08:21):
a family member of one of thesehostages and praying and hoping that in the
coming days my loved one comes home, and I pray that those two little
boys come home, the five Americanhostages and the others. I'm just learning
now that the State Department cannot confirmthis and give me the National Security Council.
Is that also true? Okay,so then okay, we'll leave that

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there. This is very much breakingnews right on the fly. Like I
was just going to tell you,like Israel's about to go into Rafa,
and then we get this so clearly. So here's what I think was happening.
I'm going to do this quickly becausethen we got to go and do
some other things on the other sideof the break. But Hamas was thinking
that the Biden administration, which apparentlystopped a shipment of ammunition Israel over the

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weekend, and we don't know why. We don't know if it was a
political thing or if there's some otherlogistical thing that isn't political, But there
was news that we've known for awhile now. The Biden administration is pressuring
Israel to let Hamas survive. Nowthey wouldn't word it that way, but
that is what they're pressuring them todo. In other words, they're pressuring

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Israel to not do what needs tobe done in order to end Hamas.
Israel does need to end Hamas,and if civilians get killed along the way,
that sucks, but Hamas has togo. I realize that world public
opinion has turned significantly against Israel becauseof the mainstream media Haamas propaganda, a
spineless president in the United States who'smore worried about one hundred thousand Arabs in

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Michigan who might cost him the electionthan he is worried about doing the right
thing for the rest of the world. But anyway, so then this more
and so Hamas was acting like theywere never going to go along with any
ceaspire unless it was like a completeceasefire for a long time, and all
the Hamas people got to be fine, and they wouldn't even give up all
the hostages. There's some insane thing. And then this morning Israel says,

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all right, get ready, we'recoming and now is unconfirmed. But now
this report that Hamas says they willaccept the ceasefire, and as you heard
Harris Faulkner say, they're on FoxNews. We don't know the details of
the ceasepire that they might be accepting. Hopefully we will learn that soon.
This is very big news, prettypotentially enormous news, with it being reported

(01:10:40):
by the Associated Press but not confirmedby our State Department, that Hamas has
said they will accept some ceasefire.Now we don't know what the terms are,
so I'm not going to spend moretime on it right now. I
will just say that Hamas seemed likethey didn't want to accept anything. They
kept proposing insane ceasepires that no rationalor even irrational Israeli leader would accept.

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And then this morning Israel started tellingPalestinian civilians in southern Gaza, hey move
out of the way, essentially,which basically means we're coming for that invasion
now that we should have done awhile back. And now all of a
sudden we have this news that Hamassays they're going to accept a cease fire,
So we will see what happens.Back on the college thing, the
student debt, thing. I getthese questions a lot, and so I

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want to just try to answer onetime, how does this work? Right?
What are we actually talking about whenI and Neil McCluskey from CATO talk
about how what Biden is doing ismaking is making everybody else pay for these
college loans. So because some peoplemight think, Okay, they took out

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a loan from a bank and they'rejust going to cancel the loan and nobody
has to pay it back, that'snot how this works. Here's how it
works. And by the way,if you took out a loan from a
bank and the bank gave you themoney, and then somehow the government knowed
that, but the money has beenspent already, then the loser is the

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bank and the bank shareholders and potentiallythe bank's depositors. Right, So there's
no such thing as free money here. So because the colleges got paid already,
they got their tuition or the lawschool or the medical school or whatever
it is. So here's how thisworks. Remember that Barack Obama essentially took
over the student loan industry in Obamacare. I don't think a lot of people

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know this. So the Obamacare dealwas unbelievably expensive, a disaster for the
federal budget, and they needed tomake it look like a little bit less
of a disaster. So what theydid was they took over the student loan
industry and pretended that it would bevery profitable for the federal government, even
though it's not and hasn't been,and it won't be because a lot of

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people don't pay off their student loans, and there are significant losses in student
loans, as Neil McCluskey said,which is part of the reason that when
people say student loan interest rate shouldbe lower than they are, I say,
no, they shouldn't be. They'renot. They are riskier loans than
you might think. And you're theone loaning the money as a taxpayer,

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right, so if you're going tomake a somewhat risky loan, you're going
to charge an interest rate that compensatesyou for that risk. In any case,
Team Obama included a takeover of thefederal student loan system in Obamacare,
and they used the hypothetical profits whichdon't actually exist, to make it seem

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like Obamacare would cost less because it'sall wrapped into one bill. So maybe
the bill was good. Maybe Theysaid it was going to cost one point
three trillion dollars over ten years,but they needed it to look like one
trillion to get it passed, sothey pretended there would be three hundred billion
dollars in student loan profits when therearen't. Okay, So now the federal

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government runs a student loan program,and these loans are almost entirely now loans
from the federal government, not loansfrom private banks. So then what happens
is Johnny's going to college and heborrows seventy thousand dollars to go to college,
and then maybe later he goes tobusiness school and he borrows another one

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hundred thousand dollars. Now he's gotone hundred and seventy thousand dollars of debt,
borrows it from the federal treasury,from the federal government. The federal
government sends the money to at eachtime as this's going along to the colleges
to pay for tuition. So thatmoney has been spent. It is now

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part of the federal debt, andit's Johnny's obligation to pay back that one
hundred and seventy thousand dollars that's alreadyin the federal debt because it's his responsibility.
He took out the loan and hegot the education. So now when
the Biden administration or anybody else said, as we're going to cancel this,

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you're not exactly canceling the loan asmuch as you are canceling the responsibility to
pay back money that was already loaned. And I just want to make sure
everyone understands this. So now thatmoney just becomes part of the federal debt,
the federal deficit will be bigger everyyear because people who should be sending

(01:15:26):
money to the treasury to pay offtheir student loans aren't. And that means
that you and I, and especiallyour children and grandchildren will be paying off
these people's college and business school andmedical school and law school loans forever,
forever. And it's it's a sin. It's a crime against my children,

(01:15:49):
it's a crime against everybody who didit the right way. Now, by
the way, I'm not saying thattaking out a student loan is doing it
the wrong way. Absolutely nothing wrongwith taking out a student loan doing the
wrong way. Doing it the wrongway is taking out a student loan and
then asking other people to pay itoff for you. Okay, So people

(01:16:11):
who doing it the right way couldbe you took out a loan and you
paid it off. You worked throughcollege so you didn't need to borrow money.
You got lucky and had parents whocould afford to pay for college,
so you didn't have to work throughcollege. That was me. I was
lucky that way. You skipped collegebecause either you couldn't afford it, or
do you decided it was a baduse of your money, or you decided
you really weren't college materials, Soyou went and you started a business,

(01:16:33):
and you did something else, andyou worked your butt off, and now
you're going to pay. Now you'repaying to put your own kids through college,
but you sure as hell have nointerest in paying to put somebody else's
kid through college or some adult whowent through college you know, ten or
fifteen years ago. You don't wantto pay for them. And then I
just want to share one listener textwith you because I hadn't thought of this
angle, and I really like it. What about those who serve our country

(01:16:56):
to pay for school ROTC and militaryacademy graduates who serve after going to school,
can they be let out of theirobligation to serve. Since we're allowing
other graduates to get out of theircommitments, why should my daughter and her
friends who graduated from the Air ForceAcademy have to pay for those who cannot
pay their school debt. Military recruitmentis down. Why not let those who

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want out of their school debt jointhe military to pay it off. Awesome,
absolutely awesome. I have said onthe air that if you're borrowing just
for undergrad, you can't really borrowa massive amount of money. This listener
says, I haven't verified this,by the way, but it's probably right.
So listener says, the maximum studentloan for undergrad is fifty seven five

(01:17:40):
hundred dollars. So that was whyin my example, I said seventy thousand.
But I guess that's higher than youare allowed for these government student loans
for undergrad. But then I believethere's no limit for graduate school. So
you hear some of these stories aboutpeople who owe a quarter million dollars and
got a you know, a PhDin transgender pigmy comparative literature, and they
can't make any money and now they'reon the hook with all this, and

(01:18:02):
you know what, don't care toyour problem. You should have made a
better decision in your life. Sosorry. And by the way, I
understand the inclination of people who wantto help. But as another listener pointed
out here, I'll just read thisone ross. It's okay to ask people
to pay off your loan if theyhave a choice. It's not okay if
you make them pay it off.And that's basically right, although I think

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it would be a little bit weirdactually to even go ask somebody else to
pay off your loan unless you weregiving something of value to them. For
example, maybe you have X thousanddollars in student debt, and maybe you
didn't major in transgender pigmy comparative literature, so maybe you're actually a potentially valuable
employee who somebody might like to employ. And at that point you go to

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this person and say, I'll tellyou what. I will take this job,
and I will accept your salary andthis and that and whatever, but
I want a signing bonus as asigning bone, so I want you to
pay off my you know, seventeenthousand dollars I have left in my student
loan. Then you're asking, andthey can make that choice or not,
and that would be that would befine. But what government's doing, as

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this listener notes, is force.Okay. I mentioned when I was doing
our little cross talk with Marty andGina that we do at the end of
their show and just before my show, that I was going to talk about
the Denver Police and the Araria Campuswhich has a Community College of Denver and
Metro State where producer A Rod wentand University of Colorado Denver. Those are

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the schools at the Araria Campus,which is kind of across the street basically
from Ball Arena, formerly the PepsiCenter. And I saw an interesting piece
at Axios this morning and just gonnatwo minutes on this. Denver Police will
not sweep the growing pro Palestinian encampmentat the Araria Campus as long as it

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remains peaceful, according to Denver PoliceChief Ron Thomas. Apparently he told some
group that on Friday, the chiefstatement show a changing again from Axio,
show a changing strategy for the agency. Last week, together with a Sheriff's
department, the sheriff department assisted aRarea police in arresting about forty people at

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the encampment. Thomas made the decisionto send police officers last week after the
campus requested their assistance. Thomas saidhe was asked by the campus again to
send police to the encampment after moretenths were erected after Friday's arrests, but
he declined, and he didn't saywhat day that was. And Chief Thomas

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said, I've been explaining to campusleadership that we absolutely are not going to
just go in and sweep out apeaceful protest just because they're occupying a space
on your campus that you would liketo use for something else. Right now,
he said, the Denver Police wouldget involved only if illegal activities like
assault or property damage take place andcampus administrators say their encampment the encampment violates

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their camping band. Now, Ido not know whether simply camping on that
land is a violation of trespassing law. I don't know if it is,
and the cops are saying it's justnot enough of a crime to move them
out, then that would be onething. If it's not, then well

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you know what I really need tofind out. And a Rod, I
don't know if you know the answerto this, but a Rod, do
you know if the land that thesetemps these tents are on. Is considered
public property or private property? IsI don't know. I'm not sure,
all right? I asked a rodbecause he went to school there, But
I don't know the answer. Inany case, what the school needs to

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do if the cops aren't going tomove these people out, the school needs
to do everything they can, firstof all, to tell any students who
are there. This is how Iwould do it. I would tell the
students, if you're still there,we're to come find out who you are,
and we're going to suspend or expelyou. And then for the people
who are not students, it's gotto be a violation of law. I

(01:22:15):
assume is there a lawyer out therewho can tell me whether it would be
a violation of law for someone tobe camping on public problem. Let's assume
it's public property, because if it'sprivate property, then Araria can definitely say
it's trespassing and they can call thecops. Questions whether the cops will do
anything if it's public property, Iwould I would think that that might be

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a violation also, But if it'snot, then then there's a real problem
here, and then they could theschools could try to enforce against the students,
but what are you going to doagainst the non students who decided to
camp there? Then all of asudden, you really probably only have a
legal cause of action if they disruptive. If they're just sitting there quietly drinking

(01:23:02):
kombucha and you know, singing Kumbaya, then maybe you can't move them out
again. I don't know what Denverlaw is like about that. I know
some places have camping bands, butI'm not sure about Denver. In any
case, it is rather interesting tosee that the police came and did sweep
out the encampment once, but whenasked to do it again they said they

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won't. And other thing here isI don't want to make it sound like
I'm angry at the police. Theymight be right if the people are not
breaking a law. If they arebehaving peacefully and they are not breaking a
law, then the police chief actuallyhas an obligation to defend the Constitution of

(01:23:45):
the United States, and in thatcase, he'd be right to say he's
not going to sweep the campus.I just wanted to share the story with
you because for me, at thismoment, I've got more questions than answers.
Still have a ton of stuff Iwant to do today. I have
so many topics that are up onmy blog at Rosskominsky dot com that I,
yeah, I'm not gonna get toon today's show, so I'll come
back to them tomorrow. But there'sa ton of stuff there for you each

(01:24:08):
and every day. I really doput a lot of time into writing my
blog note the night before and themorning of each show. So I hope
you will do me the honor ofgoing to Rosskominsky dot com from time to
time and checking out what's called theblogcast, and all that is is kind
of a show rundown. It's likemy show prep. It's it's very similar
actually to what I'm looking at whenI'm sitting here in the studio in terms

(01:24:30):
of all right, what am Igoing to talk about today? And I
think you'll you'll find it interesting mostdays, and I have that up there
basically every day that I have ashow, So go check that out at
Rosskiminski dot com, which by theway, redirects you to my Kowa page
just an easier way to get there. And also, don't forget check us
out. Check out my show.Mandy show all our Kowa shows on all

(01:24:50):
the various streaming platforms. Right,you don't just have to listen in your
car. You can listen on theiHeart app on your phone, and you
can listen on our web page atkoac Colorado dot com and you can tell
your smart speaker you know, hey, all right, I'll just wake up.
Since Alexa play KOA on iHeartRadio andyou can listen that way too.

(01:25:11):
I wonder how many. I wonderhow many Alexa devices just did that.
But anyway, just listen to usevery way, every way that you can.
I would like to give away someRockies tickets. Let's have some fun,
send in some people to Rockies games. So what we're talking about is
the Rockies against the San Francisco Giantsthis Wednesday at six forty pm at cors
Field. And the winner is actuallygonna get four tickets, not just two.

(01:25:33):
Four tickets to the Rockies Giants gamethis Wednesday at cors Field. And
we're gonna do this by text today, text number what a rod let's do
since the Rockies are looking for theirninth victory today. Okay, go with
texture all tomorrow, right, becausethis is what MARS game this is for

(01:25:56):
the day after tomorrow game tomorrow.Well, we don't know. Let's say,
okay, day after tomorrow. Sotomorrow they're gonna win, yes,
win number nine, okay, sothe day after they're looking for win number
ten. Okay, let's go withnumber ten. Okay, So don't text
yet, people ahead. You knowhow this works on this show. So
right now, it's about eleven thirtyeight. So we're gonna take text number

(01:26:18):
ten at eleven forty three at fivesix six nine zero. Okay, eleven
forty three. You text into fivesix six nine zero, and if you
are the winner, a rod willget back to you and get some additional
information. And your text needs tojust have one thing in it, and

(01:26:40):
that one thing is a number,and the number has to be the answer
to this question. On Friday,the Colorado Rockies won a game and they
did not trail at any point inthe game. That broke a streak for
the longest number of games starting aseason in which a team trailed in every

(01:27:05):
game, whether they won the gameor not, at some point they were
behind in that game. What isthe number of games that the Colorado Rockies
played to start the season in whichthey trailed in every game before breaking that
streak this Friday. All right,it's more than ten and less than one

(01:27:28):
hundred five six six nine zero Texternumber ten at eleven forty three am.
And all you need in your textis the answer to that question. It's
a number. And then if you'rethe winner, a rod will reply.
If you are not the winner,you will not get a reply. So

(01:27:49):
let me do a couple other thingshere. There's a kind of story that
keeps popping up. And what's interestingabout this one is that Bill Ackman,
who's a billionaire hedge fund guy,who got more political and more involved in
speaking his mind on a pin withopinions on Twitter during the whole Harvard thing

(01:28:15):
where Claudine Gay was not willing basicallyto protect Jews on campus, and then
it turned out she was a liarand a cheater. Of course, she's
still a professor at Harvard, butshe had to step down as college president.
She only got to be college presidentbecause she's a black lady. She
had no and she had no reasonto get that job. And this is
what's been going on around the country. They're just hiring people. I mean,

(01:28:35):
the president of Colombia is doing aterrible job as an Egyptian lady.
And I'm not, by the way, I'm not saying ladies can't do an
amazing job, right, Ladies cando every bit as good a job as
a man can't. But when youpick someone because she's a lady, and
that's the first thing you're looking forand the most important thing, rather than

(01:28:56):
is she a good leader? Doesshe have the right values? Does she
understand what ours is? And thenyou end up with this In any case,
Bill Ackman sent out a tweet yesterdayjumping into another issue, and this
is the story that I wanted toshare with you. Transgender college runner Sadie
Shriner won three women's events at theLiberty League Championship Meet Division III on Saturday.

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Shriner, of the Rochester Institute ofTechnology won the four hundred meter and
the two hundred meter won them.Now here's the key. Because Sadie Shriner
is a biological male identifies as female. Now here's the key. The winning
times for those two races in particularwould have been dead last in the men's

(01:29:55):
races at that same track meet,but in the women's this category, they
were actually new records for the school. New records for Rochester Institute of Technology.
Are you kidding? The two hundredmeter time is also now a Liberty
League Conference women's record, beating arecord previously set by this same guy who's

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running as a girl. I don'twant to be disrespectful here. I really
want to be careful about this becauseI'm only angry about this trans all this
stuff when it comes to sports.I got no problem with with trans in
any way. You got to liveyour authentic life, right. I understand

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there's a lot of other stuff goingon in middle school and high school where
kids, you know, say they'retrands when they're not because of peer pressure,
or they're depressed young women and they'retold that if they become boys then
they won't be depressed, and theydo all that and it's really not it's
not really who they are. Solook that that's a problem. But an
adult who truly, deeply, honestlybelieves like I was born in the wrong

(01:31:02):
body. I am not the genderthat my body appears to be. I
don't want to live that way.I can't live that way. I'm gonna
kill myself if I have to livethat way again. I'm not talking about
a kid acting out. I'm talkingabout deeply held beliefs of a suffering adult.
Go for it, do what youneed to do to be happy and

(01:31:25):
to live your authentic life. Butwhen it comes to folks who have all
the advantages of having gone through pubertyas a male, then competing against biological
women who do not develop the samemuscle mass, strength, bone structure,

(01:31:50):
all this stuff, it is simplynot fair. And I know that people
say, look, it's not fairto Sadie, who identifies as a woman,
to not be able to race,to not be able to compete in
sports. So first of all,I would say that even if I bought

(01:32:13):
that argument that it's not fair toSadie Shriner, and I'll say she in
this context, for a moment atleast weren't unable to participate, it's much
much, much more unfair to allof the biological women who are competing against
Sadie Shiner, who, due tobeing born male, has physical attributes that

(01:32:40):
almost no biological women can possibly competewith. So for every one person that
you say you're being fair to,you're being unfair to at least hundreds and
maybe thousands. And it has tostop. And I would say, and

(01:33:00):
again I'm sensitive to this, right, The obvious answer is either you create
a new open category that men andwomen can race in. But that's not
really probably a particularly viable category,because why would women run in that?
Why would men run in that?And so in a sense, you're only

(01:33:20):
creating a category for trans people andthere aren't enough of them to fill up
a category. So then if you'retalking about, well, what's more realistic,
you'd say that you can race inthe category that matches your gender at
birth, your gender on your firstbirth certificate, because you can get a

(01:33:42):
new birth certificate now reissued under yournew gender, so on your first birth
certificate, and you can race underthat. But if you're let's say,
your person honestly believe you're born male, and you honestly believe I was born
in the wrong body, I amfemale. My body is an accident.

(01:34:04):
My brain knows better. And again, by the way, I know,
a lot of people will email ortext or whatever and say, ross,
that's just a sign a mental illness. I don't think. So. I
don't think we necessarily need to assumethat when there's a conflict between the brain
and the body, the body mustbe right. It is possible that the

(01:34:25):
brain is right. It's also possiblethat the brain is wrong. That's possible
that it's a phase. It's possiblethat somebody says this and changes their mind.
Leader, I get all that,but it's possible that the brain is
right. So I don't like allthis kind of mental illness stuff, like
saying all trans people must be mentallyill. It's not true. So let's

(01:34:48):
say this person who born male identifiesas female now, and it's a deep
seated, honestly held part of thisperson's identity that's not weeks old, it's
years and years, and this personhas been suffering, let's say, for

(01:35:11):
a long time, and insists nowI'm gonna live my authentic life as a
woman. Now you make that personrun against men all of a sudden,
Now that person is outed to thewhole world, who might not even have

(01:35:33):
known before that that person is transgender. Maybe that person actually you know,
went to a new school, starteda new places is maybe and I know
this isn't very common, but maybeas someone who was born male, who
passes pretty easily as a female andjust wanted to start new where somebody didn't

(01:35:58):
know her prior life so she canlive an authentic life with people knowing her
as her, and then you makeher run against men. That's pretty brutal.
And then the choice would be eitheryou run against men or you don't

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run at all, because we don'thave another category that you can run in.
And that seems unfair. And here'sthe thing, it is unfair,
But there's no better answer because what'sgoing on now. Having people who went
through puberty as males running against femalesis wildly obviously unfair to so many more

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people. And sometimes there is justnot a perfect answer. Sometimes there is
not an answer that leaves everybody.And this is one of those situations where
the only right answer is going toleave some people unhappy. But the number

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of unhappy people will be a fractionof a fraction of a fraction over the
people who deserve to be treated fairly. All of these women who spent their
childhoods as girls getting great at swimmingor soccer or tennis or running, and

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now we're suddenly told you're going tohave to compete against someone who has a
physiological advantage against you that you cannotever match. So there's that. So
I actually want to I want todrop in here. This is a State
Department briefing about news we got withinthe past hour about Hamas saying that they've

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agreed to some kind of ceasefire deal, but we don't know anything about hostages.
Let's just see, you haven't madeany yet, made any determination about
whether this is whether they're they're acceptingwhat is on the table, or they're
accepting something that is different. Wehave only received the response in the last
hour ninety minutes, and as Isaid, are going through it now and
discussing it with it, discussing itwith partners in the region. So I

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don't want to characterize the nature ofthat response just yet. Thanks, Thanks
sham Ahead, Thank you. Therehave been some reports that from Israel that
perhaps a moss agreed to US aproposal that was partcuthered by Egypt and cutter
that was softer than the initial frameworkthat was in the works last week.

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Is it possible that there has beena different proposal that the US is not
involved with the tracking. So I'veseen those suggestions. I've seen some of
those reports, and I think you, I hope you'll understand that because we
are still reviewing the response, thathas come in, and because we were
working on this in real time andtrying to reach an agreement, I'm just
going to decline to comment on detailabout those. So this is I mean,

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this is kind of the most breakingof breaking news, right, a
rumor that there may be a ceasefirein the Israel Gaza war. I'm I'm
still skeptical. I I doubt thatHamas will agree to anything that Israel would
agree to, even knowing that Israelis getting ready to go into Rafa.

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But the fact that Hamas announced thatthey've agreed to some kind of seaspire,
well they that it just hours afterIsrael said get ready, we're coming is
pretty interesting. All right, letme do this other thing quickly. This
is not quite go woke, gobroke, but it's awesome and it's it's
close. So there's a company calledHymns and Hers and they sell various kinds

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of stuff for guys, for hairor eed pills and whatever, and I
don't know what else they do forfor for women. And and this guy,
the guy who runs it, sentout a tweet I think it was
on Friday, in which he saidmoral courage is greater than a college degree.

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He is the greater than signed fromMatthew said, if you're currently protesting
against the genocide of the Palestinian people, by the way, that's not a
thing. Uh. And for youruniversity's divestment from Israel, keep it going.
It's working. And then he wenton to say, there are plenty
of companies and CEOs eager to hireyou, regardless of university discipline. Mandy's
laughing, plenty, the plenty ofthe plenty, and then she and then

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he put up a link to likethe hiring page for his company. So
the reaction to that was on Friday, his stock got crushed and the value
of his company went down something likeone hundred and fifty million dollars on Friday.
And so here is the headline fromlast night. Him's and Hers founder

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and CEO, Andrew Doodom said onSunday that his previous comments were misconstrued by
some, and he put out anothertweet saying the last few days have been
a disheartening reflection of just how divisivea time we live in. And then
he said, I in no waycondone or support acts or threats of violence,
anti Semitism, or intimidation. Andthere's no justification for violence on our

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campus. YadA, YadA, YadA, And I tweeted back to him saying,
look, I don't think your wordswere misconstrued. You said what you
said, so either you believed thatfirst thing, or you believe this thing,
or the most likely thing is youbelieve the first thing. And you
saw how much money you lost whenyou said it, so you came out
and said this thing. But inany case, I will note also the

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stock is up a bit today.It hasn't. It's only gotten back maybe
half of what it lost on Friday. But still this is in the in
the direction of go woke, Gobroke. Khi Mandy, Hello, why
do you have a uh? Thisis a very clever PR pitch and petunia.

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I want them every year on mydeck. What was the PR pitch?
PR pitch is from a wonderful gardencenter who would like to come on
the show to talk about spring trendsand gardening something I probably will take them
up on, not because they bribeme with a flower, but it's a
good idea. It is a goodidea. I like thinking about what's new
or what people are doing this springbecause I'm about to plant my stuff in
a couple of weeks. Excellent.Yeah, Kristin would like to hear all

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that too. Are your wife islike next level gardener? I'm like junior,
you know, apprentice, trainee gardenercompared to where your wife is.
Your wife is like a master gardener. Were you listening during the nine nine
thirty segment today? Not so.I did almost all of my nine thirty
segment playing and responding to your rhineand watch audio, and I mentioned to

(01:42:56):
listeners that that was just a masterfulinterview that you did. API you have
to ask what a rhino is andyou're probably a rhino. Yeah, it
was. The whole thing was amazing. So I just wanted to thank you
for exposing them and for not backingdown, and we will tell you you
were great. I have gotten somereally really enheartening emails from rank and file
Republicans, from not rank and fileRepublicans saying thank you, thank you,

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thank you. So that was heartening. In today, I've got Deborah Flora
on because I got the two namechecks. They named check Kelly Maher and
they named check Deborah Flora. They'reon today to respond to that, and
we're going to talk a little bitabout May being mental health month and also
a physical fitness month, and ourfriend Michelle's owner is going to come in
and talk about that. Fantastic andjust one quick follow up so after or

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along with talking about your interview.I made a lot of comments about Dave
Williams and just what's happened to theColorado Republican Party and all the grifting and
lying and cheating and self servingness andall this disgusting stuff, And I got
just buried in text messages. AndI think you ever are negative. I
think every one of them was positiveon your side, and mind like these

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people are done. And I thinkthat people like Julie who was on with
you, Julie Hayden, I thinkthey live in this silo where they just
hear these chirping noises agreeing with them, and they think that those people represent
everybody in a way as my badanalogy club thing. A lot remember a

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lot of people said Donald Trump couldn'tpossibly lose in twenty twenty because look how
many people are showing up at hisrallies, right, And I said he
can lose because a huge percentage ofhis supporters are showing up at the rallies,
and just because nobody's showing up atthe Joe Biden things, that doesn't
mean they're not out there. AndI think Julie lives in this world where
she thinks that a bunch of peoplesaying, oh, yeah, we love

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you makes her think that everybody loveswhat they're doing. And they're wrong.
They are very, very wrong.And we'll continue that conversation today. And
if you're not a Republican, justlook at it from this perspective. First
of all, this entire situation isliterally wild, right, It's just it's
insane. It's a soapar of justmassive proportions. But secondarily, if you
look at the bills that have comethrough the legislature this session, we have

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to have a functioning opposition party inColorado, and even if you're an independent,
this is your best last hope ofstopping some of the crap that is
coming through the legislature. Yeah,and then we're digging too far into your
show. I just said it.Very last thing. If you're an unaffiliated
voter, vote in the Republican primaryfor a Republican who you can imagine yourself

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voting for in the general election.That's what you need to do. Everyone
stick around for the fabulous Mandy Connell