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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This afternoon, a call came out shots fired that was
called in by the Secret Service. Because we're in constant
contact with them all the time, we were notified of
that and we had unus here that immediately sealed off
the area. Fortunately, we were able to locate a witness
that came to us and said, hey, I saw the
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guy running out of the bushes. He jumped into a
black Nissan and I took a picture of the vehicle
and the tank, which was great. So we had that information.
Our Real Time Crime Center put it out to the
license plate.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Readers and we were able to.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Get hit on that vehicle on I ninety five as
it was headed into Martin County.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
We got a hold of Martin County.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Sheriff's office, alerted them and they spotted the vehicle and
pulled it over and detained the guide. After that, we
took the victim.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
The witness that witnessed the incident threw him up there
and he identified as the person that he saw running
out of the bushes that jumped into the car. Now
in the bushes where this guy was is a eight
K forty seven style rifle with a scope. Two backpacks
which were hung on the fence that had a ceramic
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tile in them and a go pro which he was
going to take pictures of. So those are being processed
right now. The Secret Service agent that was on the
course did a fantastic job. What they do is they
have an agent that jumps one hole ahead of time
to where the president was at and he was able
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to spot this rifle barrel sticking out of the fence
and immediately engage that individual, at which time the individual
took off. So that's what we know about the investigation.
We have somebody in custody right now that is a
potential suspect.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
We got a little bit more to work.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
To do on it, but as we usually do, as
soon as we decide that we're going to book them
into the county jail, the charges that he's going to
be booked in to, we'll get those to you and
we'll get a picture of them, and we'll get you
his background. So now, but have turned it over to
the representative of the Secret Service.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
And he's going to make a brief statement.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Hi, good afternoon everyone. I first want to thank all
of our law enforcement partners, to include the Palmbay Sheriff's Office,
and the Martin County Sheriff's Office for their involvement today.
Former President Donald Trump is safe and unharmed. Following a
protective incident shortly before two pm on Sunday at Trump
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International Golf Club at West Poone Beach.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
The US Secret Service.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Personnel open fire on a gunman located near the property line.
And this matters under investigation. I'll turn it over to
my partners over at the FBI.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Good afternoon everyone. My name is Jeffrey Veltree.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
I'm the Special Agent in charge of the FBI's Miami
Field Office. The FBI has assumed the role as the
lead federal law enforcement agency in the investigation of the
incident that occurred earlier today at Trump International Golf Course
here in West Palm Beach, Florida. We've deployed a number
of resources, including investigative teams, crisis Response team members, bomb technicians,
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and evidence Response Team members as well. What we need
right now is for the public to avoid the area
around the golf course. We will continue to support this
investigation with the full resources of the FBI, alongside our
partners with the United States Secret Service and the Palm
Beach Sheriff's Office. As well as Martin County Sheriff's Office
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and state and.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Local law enforcement.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
I would ask that if anyone has any information that
may assist with this investigation to contact our tip Lawn
at one eight hundred call FBI or at tips that's
tips dot FBI dot gov.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Thank you.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
I am Dave Ehrenberg, State Attorney for Palm Beach County.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I want to thank Shriff.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
Bradshaw and our partners at the local, state, and federal levels.
I'm here because our prosecutors are currently working up warrants
and a motion for pre trial detention for the suspect.
In that way, he will be kept in custody. But
our filing of these warrants and charges at the state
level does not preclude federal charges that could be coming.
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But in the meantime, it looks like the warrants and
the pre trial detention motion will happen first.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
And again, I want to thank.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
The cooperation we've had with our federal partners and at
the low level.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
And thank you all for being here today.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Okay, we're going to make these pictures available to you.
It'll show you a picture of the backpack and the rifle.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
It was also a.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
GoPro on the fence there where he was in temp
on filming what was going on.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Wanted you to hear all of that.
Speaker 7 (05:16):
Ryan Schuling filling in for Ross Kaminski today and tomorrow.
Jimmy Sangenberger will be with you Wednesday through Friday, as
Ross is off all of this week. But as you
just heard, and as you no doubt have witnessed over
the last twenty four hours or so, this is a
monumental story that comes up two months almost to the
day after the first assassination attempt against Donald Trump, that
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coming in Butler, Pennsylvania. The investigation into that still ongoing.
This shooter was trying to accost Donald Trump on his
own golf course at mar A Lago, and that was
Palm Beach County Sheriff Rick Bradshaw and others that you
heard with a press conference that took place at five
pm Easter in time yesterday. There are a lot of
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questions and certainly more questions than answers that we have
at this point as to how this could happen again,
Why security was not increased by an exponential level for
the former president of the United States, Why we are
still hearing some of the same kind of tired lines
and protocols that, well, he's a former president, so he
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doesn't get the same protection. That's exactly what Rick Bradshaw
said right here in response to that question.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
And for a scurity the.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Golf course, well you got to understand, the golf course
is surrounded by shrubbery, so when somebody gets into the shrubbery,
they're pretty.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Much out of sight.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
And at this level that he is at right now,
he's not the city president. If he was, we would
have had this hwer golf course around it. But because
he's not, if security is limited to the areas that
the Secret Service deems possible. So I would imagine that
the next time becomes at a golf course, they'll probably
be a little bit more people around the perimeter.
Speaker 7 (07:05):
That is not acceptable, that is criminally negligent. This former
president survived an assassin's bullet that, but for the grace
of God or a few sentimators, would have taken his
head off in a live televised event, that there wouldn't
be any response or adjustment to the security protocol surrounding
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the former president simply becomes he is a former president,
not a sitting president. That's antiquated thinking now, trying to
keep my cool here, but this is beyond the pale.
I can only imagine what Dan Vongino is thinking and
saying this morning, and no doubt many of you will
hear from him when you listen to his podcast, and
I strongly suggest that you do so. But he was prophetic,
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I believe in recent testimony on Capitol Hill that we'll
get to after the break. Also trying to reach out
to Representative Lauren Bobert. We'll be talking with John Fabricatory,
the Republican candidate and the six regtional district, coming up
in hour number two. Valtimore Archill Letter, the Republican candidate
in the first congressional district, will be joining me at
the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
In hour number two, Steven L.
Speaker 7 (08:10):
Miller read Steeze on X Versus media podcast host keeping
his eye on the media reaction all this, which is pathetic,
to put it mildly. He'll be joining me in hour
number three and coming up at the bottom of this hour.
I had a chance to talk with Denesh de Susan,
who has a film coming out on Friday, September twenty
seventh called Vindicating Trump. There's an accompanying book also to
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be released on October eighth, and I believe you'll enjoy
Denesha's insights, which includes his reaction to what happened yesterday
at Mar A Lago. Plenty to get to, including your texts.
We'll get to those as well as we come back
on the other side, your thoughts in reaction to this
second assassination attempt against Donald Trump. Today marking fifty days
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exactly to go until election Day. Ryan Schuling filling in.
You're listening to the Roskaminski Show.
Speaker 8 (09:00):
Is a Secret Service in a better spot today with
director Rowe in charge?
Speaker 9 (09:04):
No, it's worse and sadly, I'm glad this is all
being recorded because when something else happens, and I hope
it doesn't, I prayed of my BRD and Savior Jesus
Christ that I'm wrong that you play this and go, look,
that guy was crazy. You think this is the last incident,
You're out of your mind. We have seen these incidents.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Over and over.
Speaker 9 (09:21):
We saw the Georgia grenade incident with President Bush. They
overtook the magnetometers. The Secret Service leadership in charge now
with the exact same people exact same. Can you imagine
a c suite or a company that makes widgets. We
find out that there's a design defect, the widget explodes
and kills ten people, and the CTO gets a promotion
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to CEO. You understand that's what happened here, correct.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
These are the same people.
Speaker 9 (09:47):
Kim sheetle of, the director wasn't even fire, she was
allowed to resign. She'll go get some cushy jobs somewhere.
And her deputy, who is one of the guys behind
these stupid waste of time things like agents wear red
ties on the detail because this actually happened, by the way,
these people will tell you this on the road if
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you get the right people. He was concerned about the
tie color of the agents on the detail because it
seemed to imply a supported President Trump, Thymas and Biggs
wearing a red tie. You're wearing a semi red te.
There's nothing to do with anything. This is the kind
of stuff the Secret Service was actually wasting their time
with while with holding csu counter surveillance assets and counter
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sniper assets from probably the most threatened man on Earth.
If you can explain it, good luck, because that's not
the agency I.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Worked for it.
Speaker 7 (10:38):
It's Dan Bongino, a former Secret Service agent himself protecting
three different presidents, including Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, and
Barack Obama, and his words unfortunately proved to be clairvoyant,
as he said that the Secret Service is in worse
shape with Ron Rowe as the interim director, elevated that
position with the resignation of Kim Cheedle, and what we
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heard from over the week again was more of the same.
The failed logic behind not providing a top level security
detail for the former president of the United States, not
based on his status whether he's current former president, as
Dan Bongino points out and rightly so, that threat assessment
should not be determined solely upon the rank, the role,
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the title of the individual involved, but rather what the
threat level is against said person. And for Donald Trump,
who has already survived one assassination attempt and that's already
a scar a stain on the record of the Secret Service,
you would think they would be pulling out all the
stops to prevent such an incident from ever happening again,
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especially to that target. And yet what did we see
at Trump's International golf club just outside of bar A
Lago in Palm Beach County, his home turf.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
He decides to play a round of golf.
Speaker 7 (11:56):
Somehow his fifty eight year old Ryan Routh, I hate
that I share a name with this clown, knew that
he would be there, set up a post and position
on the golf course, anticipating the President's arrival, was able
to fire off shots before, through the grace of God,
one of the agents on the ground was able to
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spot and return fire with Ryan Routh. He fled then
on foot they were able to apprehend him only because
there was an eye witness, again dumb luck that identified
this guy on the run getting into a vehicle, taking
off and being apprehended forty miles away. That they didn't
anticipate this, that they weren't out in front of this,
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that they weren't able to prevent this from happening, not
only is a concern, it is a grave concern when
it comes to the protection of any asset that the
Secret Service would have jurisprudence over, whether that's Kamala Harris,
Tim Walls, jd Vance, or anybody else, but especially Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Now Ryan Routh has.
Speaker 7 (13:01):
A footprint both Facebook and x I think I hope
to help with the investigation and to cooperate with the investigation,
have shut down his social media accounts. He's from North Carolina,
spent most of his life there, most recently lived in Hawaii.
What he shares in common with the previous shooter in Butler, Pennsylvania.
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Somehow they were both part of propaganda videos for crooks.
The previous shooter he was in a black rock video
for Ralph. He appeared in this kind of online propaganda
video for the Azov brigade. He was really into the
whole Ukraine war thing. And if you don't think rhetoric
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has something to do with this, and the media is
trying to blame Trump's rhetoric, it is anything but that.
It is the Democrat rhetoric, which I will reiterate at
the top of next hour. Kamala Harris did it again
in the debate, lies about things Donald Trump has said
that has helped fuel this fire and rage against Donald Trump.
It is irrational, it has been for some time. Trump
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derangement syndrome is real, and the Democrats are all too
eager to feed it. Ryan Ralph posted the following on
April twenty second of this year. He tags it at
potus for Joe Biden says quote, your campaign should be
called something like kadaff KADAF, Keep America democratic and free.
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Trump should be massa, make American slaves again. Master Democracy
capitalized is on the ballot and we cannot lose. We
cannot afford to fail. The world is counting on us
to show the way. So Ryan Ralph took it upon
himself to try to show the way with an automatic
AK forty seven that is illegal in the United States.
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He had it, and he had it on the golf
course where Trump was trying to play around a break.
We're back after the bottom of the hour. News Danesh
Desuza joins me he has a new film coming out
called Vindicating Trump. We get into the details of this
second assassination attempt, his reaction to it, looking for yours
as well, and you can send us those texts. You
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can send those along to five six six nine zero.
I'll read those to close out the hour when we
come back. Much more to get to on the ros
Keominski Show, Ryan Schuling filling in.
Speaker 9 (15:21):
Somebody has to help this country, and if they don't,
the country and.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
The world are in big trouble.
Speaker 10 (15:26):
Someone's got to overturn the tables in the temple.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Trump jumping into the presidential race.
Speaker 11 (15:34):
Pow, She's a bit worried of the apprentice guy, you know,
to fill in the power.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Could you handle it? And would it the vower power?
They fear that power.
Speaker 12 (15:46):
If you didn't do an insurrection, had you called for one,
there would have been one, and there would be one
which you called for one.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Now I'm not sure I want that power.
Speaker 13 (15:54):
I want the power just to make the country better way.
Speaker 11 (15:56):
America first, and that scares them a lot about Donald
Trump's scares them.
Speaker 14 (16:00):
Let's look at everything campaign is family.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Let's get foreign eyes on him. If we have one target,
you know who he is.
Speaker 11 (16:07):
Going after, their companies, their families.
Speaker 15 (16:10):
That is a dictator at the great dangerous time for
a country.
Speaker 13 (16:13):
The goal is to put him in jail because they're
so afraid of his voice.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I am your voice.
Speaker 9 (16:19):
This is a very so deep and legal little bankrupt
broke got him in jail right before the election.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
That's hard for being that guy. But isn't that election interference?
It's not interference if.
Speaker 16 (16:30):
We do it, we just want a free and fair election.
Speaker 14 (16:33):
Sounds expensive balloting cheap.
Speaker 12 (16:36):
Wait wait, wait, did you actually say the word buy
the ballots.
Speaker 14 (16:39):
We were able to purchase ten thousand ballots.
Speaker 15 (16:42):
That's terrifying.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
They cheated in many different ways. That's all they're good at.
Ready to save democracy.
Speaker 17 (16:47):
We need to stop him permanently, and that person will
be risking his life to bet us not the sixties rights.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
The way you survived me.
Speaker 12 (17:01):
Trump has beaten back every attack against him.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Your damn tournay.
Speaker 13 (17:05):
We're going to fix our borders, and we're going to
fix our elections.
Speaker 14 (17:09):
We're going to win.
Speaker 12 (17:10):
It's my legacy.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Indicating Trump. The best is yet to come. Only in
theaters September twenty seventh.
Speaker 7 (17:17):
The trailer you just heard coming out in theaters coming
up next weekend. That'll be Friday, September twenty seventh, Vindicating
Trump and you can find out more online at Vindicating
Trump dot com. It is also accompanied by a hardcover
book version of Vindicating Trump. You can find that on
Amazon starting on October eighth. No better time to be
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joined by Denish Desuza than right now.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Denish, thank you so much for your time.
Speaker 12 (17:41):
Hey, it's my pleasure.
Speaker 7 (17:43):
Now as we look at the events of this past weekend,
densh and now your film and your book coming out
in the wake of that, no doubt leading into this
assassination attempt. A second one was the vilification of Trump.
Your film, your book is about vindicating Trump. How much
of the body politic, of the rhetoric that's out there
right now do you think has fed into this violence
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against Donald Trump.
Speaker 12 (18:09):
Well, I think that the Democrats have created the atmosphere
in which these kinds of attacks, and now there have
been more than one of them, become plausible. In fact,
not only plausible, they become almost logical. Because if the
premise is that Trump is a would be dictator, he's
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a would be autocrat, he's a would be Caesar or Hitler,
then it logically follows that it's good to take this
guy out because he could start a world war. He
could he could create a kind of a regime of repression.
So the Democrats, in a way, in an odd position
because now they say, well, we denounced violence, and you know,
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thoughts and prayers for Trump and so on, but none
of that really makes any sense given their own premise.
Speaker 7 (19:01):
DeNisi SUSA joining us, Ryan schuling with you and the
last several films you've made has pointed toward chaos in
our system, whether that was two thousand mules or police state,
which I also saw and now vindicating Trump coming through.
And a lot of this chaos has been blamed on
Donald Trump. And yet when we watch him in his
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rallies or what he says in interviews or debates, it
seems like he is not only a change agent, but
a restoration to order in the way that the left
pretends or projects that they will provide to the United
States and the world. What do you make of this
framing of Donald Trump by the left and how Donald
Trump has responded to it.
Speaker 12 (19:43):
Yeah, he didn't create the chaos. I mean, it's probably
more accurate to say that it created him. Also, for
those who say that Trump is a would be desperate
one of the problems for them is that Trump's already
been in office, so you can ask what despotic things
did he do? How many leading Democrats, for example, did
he prosecute or lock up? Of course, there were people
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at his rallies who would say lock her up in
reference to Hillary, but he didn't do it. In fact,
he specifically said let's defeat her in November. That's a
clip in the film The film has a very interesting
one on one between me and Trump, very different from
his normal interviews because normally in the interviews he's a
bit of a runaway train. But here I sort of
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sit one foot apart from him, very focused, and have
a conversation covering some fairly deep topics, including Abraham Lincoln,
his Lyceum speech, the threat of dictatorship, how countries become autocratic,
where the threat comes from. All this stuff is the
centerpiece of this film. I think people will find it
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very eye opening.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Now.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
I think back to Saturday, July thirteenth and the first
assassination attempt against Donald Trump. Denesh and in that time
since that you've been making this film when you sat
down with him, was that after that attempt?
Speaker 12 (21:03):
You know, happily it was. We were supposed to interview
him two weeks before, and we were really frustrated when
it fell through. But it turned out to be sort
of fortuitous, maybe even providential, because we interviewed him after
the assassination attempt, after the Republican National Convention, so we
were able to cover all that in the movie. The
movie also has highly entertaining recreations. We have sort of
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a democratic war room. We have a kind of an
intelligence community war room, a media warroom, so you can
kind of get the behind the scenes of the left
and the Democrats reacting to the criminal trials, reacting to
the assassination attempt, kind of the kind of stuff that
we speculate about the left but we never get to see. Well,
we bring that out for you to see.
Speaker 14 (21:49):
In the film.
Speaker 7 (21:50):
The film comes out Friday, September twenty seventh. The book
is out on October eighth. Its author and the director
executive producer of that film, Dish Susa, joining us here
with a preview of it. This sit down that you
had with Donald Trump, And I'm fascinated, as you just mentioned,
because of the timing of it, and I know you've
had interactions with Donald Trump in the past.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Was he more subdued, what was his mindset?
Speaker 7 (22:14):
What kind of vibe did you get from him during
your conversation.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Do you feel that he's a fundamentally changed man.
Speaker 12 (22:22):
I think he is changed to a degree. He's a
little more reflective, a little more measured, but the fight
has not gone out of him. And I think that
is a key point. What the assassination attempt really revealed,
was Trump's greatest virtue. And I say this because we're
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always hearing, even from some Republicans, about the vices of Trump.
You know, Oh yeah, he's a massive egotist. He used
to be a playboy. You know, he doesn't tell the truth.
So we get a catalog of Trump's vices, and the
catalog itself is, you know, is distorted and exaggerated. Maybe
Trump was a playboy in his early years. Nobody's saying
he's a playboy now. So the best you can say
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is he's a reform playboy, you know. But there's never
a focus on what Trump's virtues are, and he has
a lot of them, but the premiere one, the supreme one,
and the one needed most in the country now is
the virtue of courage. And Aritotle says that courage is
the greatest of the virtues because it makes all the
other virtues possible. So the kind of reaction that Trump
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showed to the assassination attempt, and by the way, it's
not just one event, it's the way he's reacted under
all the criminal trials. Any other Republicans Fay saying, you know,
five criminal charges, let alone ninety one, would have already
long fled from the field. So the fact that Trump
not only endures, but he pushes forward. I think this
shows sort of the caliber the metal of the man.
Speaker 7 (23:47):
Danish Susa our guest, you can follow him on X
by that very handle and vindicating Trump. The film coming
out Friday, September twenty seventh, the book on October eighth, Denisch,
one of the things that I've really struggled to at
my head around you mentioned this playboy past and this
reputation and this character that we've known for the last
forty years plus in American culture, and how much he
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was really beloved despite maybe some of these personal foibles,
or maybe even because of them. Being on the Howard
Stern Show, being on Oprah Winfrey, having a show called
The Apprentice, going on all the late night shows. They
were having fun with him, and then suddenly that changed,
that turned and he's not only been vilified, he has
been public enemy number one, declared by the left. How
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do you explain this, dinsh this phenomenon of turning Donald
Trump into this supervillain.
Speaker 12 (24:36):
One of the early scenes in our film is the
famous scene of Trump coming down the escalator at Trump Tower.
You remember that right now, think of the symbolism of
that scene. Here's Trump, He's this massive cultural celebrity, but
almost look at it as he decides, all right, you
know what, I'm actually going to exit that scene. I'm
going to go down and sort of join the American
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people and take up their cause. So the moment he
does that, his old friends go, wait, you're a trader
to your class. You have joined sort of the rabble,
and you're actually now joining with the so called pitchfork
people and kind of coming against us. So this was
Trump's great betrayal. You could almost see it encapsulated in
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that scene itself. So all his former friends who are
at the top of the heap turn against him and
now begin to see him as the great rebel and
the great enemy.
Speaker 7 (25:32):
We even see a d nash in recent coverage of
Sunday's second assassination attempt at mar A Lago, whether it
was Lester Hold or other members of the media, basically
blaming Trump for this second assassination attempt because of the
heat and the divisiveness of his rhetoric. Nothing that's coming
from the left apparently has contributed to this for Donald Trump.
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When you see the media coverage of this as we
sprint to the finish now fifty days today, Election day.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
What stands out to you, well.
Speaker 12 (26:04):
What stands out to me is that we have a
media that has gone into the full propagandistic mode. Now
for not to say that if I flash my mind
back to the days of say Reagan or George H. W. Bush,
the media was biased. But bias is one thing and
open advocacy is another. So I think the press is
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essentially disclosed that it is now in the Democratic camp.
I mean, we saw that even in the debate with
Kamala Harris, where the two moderators were almost like two
referees in a boxing fight, and right in the middle
of the fight they put on gloves, jump into the
ring and start pommeling one of the fighters. You know,
it's so transparent and obvious and naked and gross that
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you begin to go, what kind of an operation are
you people running? So I think that what's happening is
people's eyes are being open to the fact that these institutions,
such as the media, but also academia to some degree
the entertainment industry are just idealoged, logically routed, and the
best thing to do is just to pay no attention
to them because you can't trust them. It's almost accurate
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to say that whenever they say something, you should believe
the exact opposite.
Speaker 7 (27:11):
That's a key word that you say to Nash, and
I have to imagine that at some point this came
up in your conversation with Donald Trump, and that's trust.
He has enlisted the trust of those around him, only
to be let down time and again by members of
his own administration. We've seen them turn against him, and
a lot on the outside they blame Donald Trump for that,
and they say that this is a guy that is toxic,
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that these people cannot work with. I view it a
little bit differently, that this is a man they cannot
control and because of that, they fear him, whether that
comes from the inside and his administration or the Secret Service,
as we've seen now a second failure. Although they did
end up apprehending this would be shooter. How he got
that close and knew Donald Trump would be on the
golf course at that time, it defies logic. And then
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you look at the CIA, the FBI working within their
systems to really try to pin things on Donald Trump,
like we saw with the FAISA warrants and the Russia
collusion hoapes and all of that. How do you describe
the element of trust within Donald Trump's circle, who he
can trust, if he can trust anyone outside of a
very very tight knit circle.
Speaker 12 (28:18):
I do think that's the real problem for Trump, because
the one thing we've learned over the last few years
is that the rot goes far deeper than we thought.
When when Trump first started talking about, you know, the
uniparty and the swamp, I thought it was a somewhat
exaggerated portrait that Trump was making for effect. As it
turns out, it was grossly understated. And even Trump himself,
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I think under estimated the degree to which, for example,
his own DJ or or organizations that are not supposed
to even be political, I mean the NIH, the CDC,
the health establishment were also infected by this sort of
ideological virus and ideological minute. I think Trump is onto
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it now. I hope he's taking all the necessary steps
for his own security. But I think that the reason
that the left portrays him as a dictator as a
caesar is that Trump actually has the dimensions to do that.
In other words, one of the questions I posted Trump
is I said to him. I said, Hey, you know,
they keep saying you did an insurrection and you didn't
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actually call for an insurrection. I said, but guess what,
if you had called for one, there would have been one.
And if you call for one now, there will be
one now. So you have that kind of dimension, that
kind of power. And one of the really most interesting
parts of this interview is his response to that. So
I think that what happens is it And even with assassination,
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I mean, think about it. Nobody tried to assassinate you know,
McCain or Romney or or Paul Ryan.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
I mean, who would want to?
Speaker 12 (29:52):
What's the point Trump has that kind of He's a
very scary guy to the left, and that's why they
go nuts over him, and they don't go nuts over
any other Republican.
Speaker 7 (30:04):
Final question Denish to SUSA are guests so glad for
his time, especially on this day, Denish, what was your
biggest takeaway from producing this film from everything you encountered,
all the information and the conversation you had with Donald Trump,
and what will you think will be the biggest takeaway
that viewers will have from this film?
Speaker 12 (30:23):
The film is indicating Trump, The website vindicating Trump dot com.
You can pre order the book there now, and tickets
will go up in a day or two on that site.
So you can sign up for email updates now, but
you can get tickets a little bit later this week. Now.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
The weird thing.
Speaker 12 (30:39):
About Trump is that he doesn't, in a formal way
like make the case for himself. He puts himself on exhibit.
He does the Trumpian thing, but unlike say Reagan, Reagan
would say, here are seven reasons you should vote for me.
Here's the case for me over my opponent. Trump doesn't
do that, so I do. That's really what the mission
of this film is. And it's an unqualified defensive Trump,
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by which I mean I even take on the people
who say, and there are people in the Republican camp,
people I know who will say things.
Speaker 14 (31:07):
Like, well, you know, I don't like the guy, but.
Speaker 12 (31:09):
You know I like his policies, or I just wish
he would keep his mouth shut, or what they are
really saying is they want to like remake Trump, they
want to rehabilitate Trump, they want a new and different Trump,
or they're voting for Trump with some sort of reluctance.
And then I say to myself, and I make the
case in the film, No, in our time and in
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this situation, we need a guy exactly like this. I mean,
it's kind of like someone going up to Lincoln during
the Civil War and saying, you know, you got to
get rid of General Grant because you know, this guy
is a really honering guy, and he you know, he
uses bad language, and he you know, he bankrupted his
father's store, and he's a chronic alcoholic. The point is
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who cares? The most important thing is can this guy
fight is either right general for this time in American
history to lead the Union armies to victory. I think
a similar question needs to be put to Trump well
framed in that way regarding Trump, isn't it true that
Trump as he is given his qualities good and bad.
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Isn't it true that this is the guy that we
need now? And isn't it true that this is the
only guy who can sort of deliver the goods at
this point? So this is the case I make on'n
apologetically in the film. So I think people will be energized, exhilarated.
The film is very entertaining, as I mentioned, and a
very eye opening interview with Trump that's the centerpiece.
Speaker 7 (32:30):
Of the film distilling him down to his essence, Donald Trump, good,
bad or indifferent.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
He is the genuine article.
Speaker 7 (32:36):
What you see is what you get and Denish to
SUSA had that exclusive access to him in the film
Vindicating Trump, coming out in theaters Friday, September twenty seventh.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
The website Vindicating.
Speaker 7 (32:47):
Trump dot com follow Denesh on x at densh is SUSA.
Densh always thankful for your time. Thank you so much,
and thank you so much for doing this film.
Speaker 12 (32:56):
My pleasure.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
So that film coming out in just eleven days.
Speaker 7 (33:00):
Looking forward to that and looking forward to your responses
to what you just heard from Denesh Desuza fifty six
six ' ninety. You can send those texts along, and
there's a few again along these lines, Ryan, the Rhetorican
lies are every bit as bad on the Republican and
Trump's side as it is with the Democratic side. This
texter says, defending your country is not Trump derangement syndrome.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Supporting Trump is.
Speaker 7 (33:23):
However, give me a break, Ryan says, this texter, Trump
is the king of spewing hate. He is going to
get Taylor Swift, for example, killed. I think added that
to a second text you are so one sided. We
have not seen evidence to these texters plurals point about
violence coming from the right towards political targets of the left.
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We've seen far more from the left in violent attacks
on the right. You can go back to the Bernie
Sanders inspired shooter the congressional baseball game practice. That was
a guy that had been infiltrated by a lot of rhetoric.
And I do not blame Bernie Sanders for it. Not
at that point, he was simply stoking the flames of
concern about not having Medicare for all what Republicans were
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going to do. But that vilification, in my mind, has
precipitously gotten worse. And what we have, Texters, is a
scoreboard that reads two verified assassination attempts against Donald Trump,
one of which killed a supporter of his at a rally,
and Butler grazed the ear of the former president, missed
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his head by mere sentimators. And now we have a
second assassination attempt from a whack job who was inspired
and I read you one of his posts, son X
by a lot of this rhetoric that we're hearing, and
I don't want it to come to this, But I'm
simply holding up a mirror. For instance, here is Representative
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Dan Goldman, New York about what needs to happen to
Donald Trump because of the threat that he represents.
Speaker 9 (34:57):
Just unquestionable at this point that man cannot see public office.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Again.
Speaker 9 (35:04):
He is not only unfit, he is destructive to our
democracy and he has.
Speaker 7 (35:10):
To be He has to be eliminated. Do words matter
or do they not? He has to be eliminated. To
the texters that sent in your objections, what is right
with that comment that Dan Goldman made and find me
the comment or Donald Trump or jd Vance says that
Kamala Harris need to be eliminated, taken off of the chessboard.
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And again the mere facts of the matter reveal that
it is the left that has been absolutely delusionally motivated
to kill Donald Trump, to end his life. There have
now been two separate attacks. There have not been similar
attacks from the right on the left. If there were,
I would condemn them wholesale, just like I am here
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today on the threats and the attacks against Donald Trump's life.
A time out, we're back after the top of the hour.
News John Fabricatory joins me he's the Republican candidate in
the sixth Congressional district going up against Representative Jason Crowe
Ryan Schuling filling in this is the Roskominski show.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Yes, Well, you got to understand the golf course is
surrounded by shrubbery, so when somebody gets into the shrubbery,
they're pretty much out of sight, all right. And at
this level that he is at right now, he's not
the city president. If he was, we would have had
this higher golf course around it. But because he's not,
the security is limited to the areas that the Secret
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Service deems possible.
Speaker 12 (36:33):
So I would.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Imagine that the next time becomes at a golf course,
there'll probably be a little bit more people around the perimeter.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
I cannot fathom this.
Speaker 7 (36:42):
In the wake of a second assassination attempt against Donald Trump,
were being fed this same song and dance, this time
from Rick Bradshaw, U Palm Beach County Sheriff, all due respect,
But because that Donald Trump is not a sitting president,
well then he has a diminished security detail.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
How did that go?
Speaker 9 (36:59):
In?
Speaker 7 (36:59):
Butler, Pennsylvania joining us now, he has a lot of
work in the field as a law enforcement officer retired
ICE field director and United States Air Force veteran, also
a candidate Republican for the sixth Congressional district against Representative
Jason Crowe. He is John Fabricatory. You find out more
online his website, John fab Twob's for the Number four
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Congress dot com.
Speaker 14 (37:21):
John, Welcome to it, Hey, Ryan, thanks for having me
back on Well.
Speaker 7 (37:26):
I just want to get your immediate reaction first to
what you just heard, but then also in total to
the details that are coming out following this second assassination
attempt against Donald Trump.
Speaker 14 (37:37):
Ryan, this is ridiculous. Like you know, we had the
initial assassination attempt, we had this assassination attempt yesterday, but
there's also been intel that has come down that there
are players overseas and I ran that want to take
Donald Trump's life. We arrested a guy the FBI did
that came in from Pakistan and wanted to take Donald
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Trump's life. And is the Secret Service going to wake
up and say that he is a target and they
need to protect him. It doesn't look like they're willing
to do that job and something needs to be done
about it.
Speaker 7 (38:10):
Well, John, you kind of worked in a parallel agency
with ICE, but law enforcement communication is key. Obviously, the
sharing of intel resources, etc. Is integral to the job
that you did. As you break this down again, we're
talking about in the wake of a first assassination attempt
that was just over two months ago. How does this
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happen on Ron Rose watch?
Speaker 14 (38:35):
I don't really know. It's amazing to me. Like being
in an agency like ICE, we were used by the
Secret Service a lot for large scale security events that
were going on, like the DNC and other things that
that happened. It's usually a very robust effort by Secret
Service to make sure that they have protection in place.
What I'm seeing now, and you know, what we're learning
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through investigation, is that Donald Trump's not being afforded that.
Speaker 17 (39:02):
Now.
Speaker 14 (39:02):
I understand the fact that he's not the current sitting president,
but here is a man who he's already had one
attempt on his life. They stopped another attempt of a
guy coming out.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Of Pakistan to try to commit an act against him,
and now we've got another assassination attempt that happens on
his golf course. There needs to be a full protective
measure for President Trump starting from this day forward. It
should have been started after his last assassination attempt. But
there's no excuses moving forward by this man why Donald
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Trump should not have a full contingency of Secret Service
agents watching his back.
Speaker 7 (39:42):
Fifty days until election day and that will include John
Fabricatory's name on the ballot in the sixth Congressional District
against Jason Crowe.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
John, you've been in the news.
Speaker 7 (39:51):
You've sat down with doctor Phil to talk about the
infiltration of Venezuelan crime elements in Aurora. The degree to
which that's happened has been disputed by local media and
also the governor, Jared Poulis. As you've continued to follow
the story in real time, what's the very latest that
you can tell us where this stands with the gang trend.
Speaker 14 (40:12):
De trend is maximizing their efforts throughout the United States.
Since I've come out in the media with this story
with Danielle Zerensky, I've been contacted by numerous law enforcement
agencies throughout the US. Retired FBI agents, retired ICE agents,
ICE agents that are currently on the job, all reaching
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out to me to tell me that they have encountered
TDA in their communities. I have heard that the that
the governor of Texas has invited an anti terrorism team
from Colombia up to Texas to help train his officers
on on trends with UH with with TDA. So we
know that this is occurring, and yet we're being gas
lit by Democrats, being gas lit by Jason Crowe here
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in the sixth Congressional District. We have a governor here
in this day to Colorado and Jared Polis, who I
love to call Dark Polis, telling us that it's all
in our imagination. It's time to tell the truth to
the people and let everybody know that TEDA is in
our communities. We need to have our heads on a
swivel and we need to put our foot down on
them now before they continue to expand.
Speaker 7 (41:19):
His website is johnfab for Congress dot com. That's johnfab
two b's number four Congress dot Com. We speak about
the Secret Service, we speak about ICE, their inability to
do their jobs with the cooperation of local law enforcement,
particularly when they're in sanctuary cities as they've been declared
and sanctuary states like we are here in Colorado. What
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changes on day one if you are elected to upend
Representative Jason Crow. If Donald Trump wins election, in November,
both with regard to ICE its ability to do its job,
and with regard to the Secret Service and what needs
to be cleaned up there.
Speaker 14 (41:57):
Yeah, there's a lot of things that need to happen
on day one, number one. I mean, vald Trump's going
to come in. You know, he wants to do a
huge deportation effort. I think that that's a good idea.
And you know, the left is trying to say that
it's going to be racial profiling. Stuff like that's not
going to happen. We already know millions of people that
we already have targeted because they are final orders. They've
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already seen a judge, judges ordered them deported or their
visa overstays. We have enough people that we can go
after to remove from this country immediately on day one.
We also need to make sure that we're looking at
these sanctuary cities and we're telling them, hey, if you're
not going to cooperate with the federal government, you're not
getting federal dollars. We already have counties and cities here
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in the state of Colorado they're assuing the government that
the state government here in Colorado issuing Jared Polis to
get out of these sanctuary jurisdiction rules. Jared Polis loves
to say that we're not a sanctuary state. I can
point to numerous laws that have been passed in the
state House since twenty thirteen that codifies and makes this
state a sense sanctuary state. We need to get away
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from that because sanctuary states and sanctuary jurisdictions do not
keep American citizens safe.
Speaker 7 (43:08):
John final question along these lines, and what you'll be
combating out there on the campaign trail, are the charges
that this is simply xenophobic, racist rhetoric from you. It's
opportunism in a political season to try to make this
an issue more than it is. We've seen that a
lot from Jason Crow and his posts on x that
this is simply being blown out of proportion and that
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you're just doing this in a calculated way. What is
your response to those kind of charges, I would.
Speaker 14 (43:36):
Tell Jason Crowe tell that to the families of the
thousands of people that have been killed by illegal aliens.
There's a running list that a couple of people keep
and it's in the thousands. I testified to Congress last July,
and a guy that testified with me, his son had
been killed by an illegal allien. He's part of this
Angel Parents group that keeps track of how many illegal
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aliens kill state citizens a year. And Jason Crowe just
needs to come up out of his ivory tower and
actually take a look at our community and see the
crimes that are being committed. Tell the women at that
jewelry store that were violently beaten by trend Aragua here
in our community when they rob that store, tell them
that this is a figment of their imagination. Tell the
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person whose head was caved in at the apartment complex
by TDA gang members stead at the figment of his imagination.
We're tired of the gas lighting. We're tired of being
told that our eyes are lying to us, and it's
time for us to unsee these people if they're not
going to serve their communities, and that's what we need
to do.
Speaker 7 (44:39):
He's been on the front lines of this very issue
and staying with it now fifty days until election day.
You can follow him on x at John E Underscore
fab fabb John Fabricatory, our guest, the Republican candidate in
the sixth Congressional District on your ballots November fifth, John
Thank you so much for your time and for all
you're doing.
Speaker 14 (44:59):
Thank you, Ryan, and I always appreciate you.
Speaker 7 (45:01):
A time out, We're back with more after this Ross
Kaminski show, Ryan Schuling filling in.
Speaker 18 (45:06):
When we were in finally in January that we swore
to defend against those that are coming against us, whether
they are domestic or international, and right now I feel
like MAGA in general, they are threats to us domestically,
and we see it time and time again, and I
think that's why you see so many national leaders, whether
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they're Republicans or Democrats, coming together to say there is
only one person qualified to be the commander in chief.
Speaker 7 (45:32):
That's Representative Jasmine Krockett, Democrat, Texas, most notorious for her
showdown with Marjorie Taylor Green in a house hearing the
bleach blonde comment that she made there. But that comment
was made just hours before the second Trump assassination attempt
on Sunday. To distill it, MAGA in general, they are
threats to us domestically. These are reflexive comments from the left,
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from Democrats, from the media. They don't even think about
it any more. It's just a second nature to them.
It comes to them. It's their go to, it's their
Trump card. Unintended, They're an existential threat to democracy. Those
who support Donald Trump, then you make America great Again.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
Movement.
Speaker 7 (46:14):
MAGA is a domestic threat that must be neutralized. I mean,
this is highly energized rhetoric that of course is going
to elicit a response from the lunatic fringe, like we
have seen with Thomas Crooks in Butler, Pennsylvania and Ryan
Routh now in South Florida at Donald Trump's international golf course.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
It needs to stop. It won't stop.
Speaker 7 (46:39):
It further fuels the flames alliteration there of the hatred
toward this man that is largely irrational. When I try
to sit someone down, calm them down, and ask them
to really define and describe what it is specifically about
Donald Trump's policies that put America at risk in danger,
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I usually get very strained, kind of tortured responses that
always revert back to ad hominin attacks against Donald Trump
the person. I don't think there's the ability for many
out there to separate the policies from the person, and
that is unfortunate because it's doing great damage and harm
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to our body politic. That's not to defend everything. Donald
Trump says when he posted, I think it was on
true social in all caps.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
I hate Taylor Swift. What is that? Why? What does
that do? What does that gain nothing?
Speaker 7 (47:38):
I don't like it any more than a lot of
you do this one a texter. I want to get
to some of these fifty six six ninety you said
fully auto AK forty seven.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Did you misspeak?
Speaker 7 (47:51):
Well no, not unless CNN did, because here is from
their article and I sent this to the texture officials.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
Quote.
Speaker 7 (47:57):
Officials said in AK forty seven style rifle with a scope.
Two backpacks that were hung on the fence and had
ceramic tile in them, and a GoPro camera were recovered
at the scene.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Unquote. Now you go down the list.
Speaker 7 (48:13):
First of all, it's illegal for anyone to own an
AK forty seven in America, so no gun control law
would have stopped him from obtaining this weapon. He committed
a felony in that act. He's also a prior felon
therefore was not eligible to legally purchase a firearm. That's
point two. So the fact that he was able to
get access to this weapon that needs to be investigated.
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And I would fully embrace and support that, But we
go back to the rhetoric that fuels the demented mind
of a Ryan Routh and the responsibility that people have
to keep it between the lines in your criticisms of
Donald Trump, which is fine.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
I am fine criticizing.
Speaker 7 (48:50):
The policies at the personality the character of Donald Trump,
but to call him an existential threat to democracy is
an exaggeration.
Speaker 2 (48:57):
You know it.
Speaker 7 (48:58):
He was president for four years. We were safe, we
were prosperous without the response to COVID being factored in
which he largely I would agree, botched. We were a
nation that was on the assent and not on the decline,
and that's where we find ourselves now, still trying to
reach out to representati. Lauren Bobert, Baltimar Archie Letta will
join me live in studio when we return halfway through
(49:20):
this Monday edition of the ros Komenski Show, Ryan Schuling
filling in. Ryan Schuling back with you filling in for
Ross Komensky. We'll get to more of your texts in
just a little bit. You can send those to fifty
six six ninety joining me live in studio. He is
the Republican candidate for the first Congressional district, going head
to head with long time Representative Diana to Get, who
succeeded Pat Schroeder, and their tenure combined the two of
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them goes back more than fifty years. Valdemar is trying
to interrupt that service for Diana to Get with his
campaign in the first district, Baltimer, this is the.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Third straight day I've seen you. Are you sick of
me yet? It is? I should ask you the same question. No,
it's good to be here. Thank you very much for
having me on.
Speaker 8 (50:04):
I always love to come into the studio and chat
with all you guys here, great group of people, So
I'm happy to be.
Speaker 7 (50:11):
Here and ask you kind of a tough question out
of the gate. Here is based on what I heard
Don Lemon say in that previous montage that he said
something to the effect of the greatest threat to our civilization.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
Right now is the angry white rural man.
Speaker 7 (50:25):
That sort of thing as you see it right now
in wake of what happened on Sunday and what we've
seen going back to the first assassination attempt, a lot
of the rhetoric that you've just heard, What do you
believe is the greatest threat to our constitutional republic.
Speaker 8 (50:40):
Well, I don't think the greatest threat to our constitutional
republic would be white men. I would disagree with Lemon
in that regard, despite the fact that we did just
have an angry white man, I'm try and do something
terrible in taking out Donald Trump's right. I think the
greatest threat to our country right now is just this
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promotion of an anti American sentiment within the country. Because
within the country, if we don't have people who love
our country, have a respect for our country, and a
willingness and wanting to maintain and keep our country, that
would be hard to overcome external threats. I think, you know,
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we're able to unite against and go after we can
handle it. But I do worry about that sentiment within
our country of people and it's all genders, colors, nationalities, whatever. Well,
I mean American, but different, you know, races that just
have this sentiment of hatred of our country, and that's terrible.
Speaker 7 (51:47):
You'll give you an example in a text here. This
is chilling. Trump doesn't deserve assassination. He needs to be
convicted of treason and hung from a tree on the
White House lawn. Leave him there for a couple of
weeks to send a message to other would be despots.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
How do you respond to that, Well, there's two things.
Speaker 8 (52:10):
Either one that person actually believes that, or they're just
being inflammatory. Either way, it's bad. What I will say
about that is there are people in this country who
do believe that.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
So, whether that individual does or not, there are people
who do.
Speaker 8 (52:25):
And it's very unfortunate and a huge disservice that's been
done to our country by people in the media and
politicians who have vilified Trump to the point where people
there are people who genuinely do view him as being
like Adolf Hitler or being such a threat to the
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world and to the country that they do see him
as an extreme threat to democracy or however they want
to put it. And if you think about that, if
you really believe that, you know, like most people, if
you told them you could, if you could go back
in time and kill Hitler, would you do it? Most
people would say yes. So if Donald Trump really is,
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excuse me, this boogeyman, they're making them out to be,
or even worse than a boogeyman, they are kind of
inciting things like this to happen.
Speaker 7 (53:21):
Blaladima Archiletta, the voice you're hearing, Republican candidate for the
first Congressional District. He is also president of log Cabin Republicans.
I had the privilege and honor of watching Tuesday's debate
with the log Cabin Republicans of Colorado, and that was
an interesting experience. But one of the things I always
like to have you highlight here, Valdemar, you are a
gay man. That is incidental to me. To you as
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a person, that is true. You advocate for a lot
of gay causes when it comes to presence within the
Republican Party.
Speaker 2 (53:49):
But more importantly, you're an American first.
Speaker 7 (53:52):
Like you just stated, you know your political views transcend
your sexual orientation. I know that sounds kind of mundane,
but it bears repeating. I want to have you share
with our listeners your experience. Let's say you've gone to
a broad kind of general whether it's a Trump rally
or Make America Great Again event, or like we saw
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last night in Sedelia we were there, what your response
and reception has been as a gay man among those
types of Republicans, And when you've been, say, at a
pride event that is not necessarily political. But we know
that a lot of ways it can be when you
come out to say members of LGBTQ as a Republican,
how that's received and responded to, Well, I have no
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problem in Republican circles.
Speaker 2 (54:38):
We had a booth at.
Speaker 8 (54:40):
The Colorado Republican Assembly, which was down in Pueblau. We
had a booth there and we had a rainbow Gadsden
flag up behind us, and they happened we had the
perfect location. They put us right next to a table
that was selling Trump merchandise, so the line to buy
stuff went right in front of our table, so everyone
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who was in line had to come by our table
and talk to us. And we were selling a little
like Gadsden flag, yeah, like the normal yellow ones. And
we sold more stuff that day than we've ever sold. Well, really,
we give it for a donation. I should state that properly.
But we had no problem there, And it was funny.
One of the guys at the table with us, who
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I don't know if he's a Democrat, but he leans
to the left, but one of his friends is one
of our board members, and he was hanging out with
him that day and he said, do you want to
come down with us? So he came with us, and
I was like, you're brave to come hang out with
the Republicans all day. I don't know if I'd go
do that for that at a Democrat convention or whatever.
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But I asked him at the end of the day,
was anyone did anyone say anything negative or did anything
bad happen? He's said no, everyone was really nice, which
I'm glad and so so I have no problem in
Republican circles on the other hand, and I'm not saying
this happens all the time, but I know on your show,
I think I talked about the experience we had in Pueblo.
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The Pueblo County GOP had a booth at Pueblo Pride,
and so I went down there to help them run it.
Speaker 2 (56:13):
And the people in the.
Speaker 8 (56:14):
Booth next to us were basically they were getting like
cardboard and writing signs and putting it up like one
said f Trump. Another one said, you know, we are
with bigots, And there was an arrow pointing to us
to our booth, and then there was another one saint
gay Republicans don't exist. And they had another one about JD. Vans,
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and they just had a bunch of these signs on
their booth disparaging us and calling us names, and they
were talking to people really loud when they would come
over about how bad we were.
Speaker 2 (56:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (56:48):
Then when people would come talk to us, they had
this one kid I felt sorry for because he's only
like twelve, you know, he was being taught to do this.
They had him come stand in front of our booth
and blow his whistle, so they'd just be standing there
blowing a whistle as we were talking to people.
Speaker 2 (57:07):
And the worst part of it.
Speaker 8 (57:09):
Was we eventually was like, all right, we should tell
the people who run the festival.
Speaker 2 (57:13):
They probably should know, so we went and told them.
Speaker 8 (57:15):
Then they came over and they basically were like, well,
what's the problem And we told them and it was
obvious you could see the science and they're like, well,
they can do whatever they want in their own booth,
and I was like.
Speaker 2 (57:27):
You know, that would not fly. But went the other
way around.
Speaker 8 (57:30):
If we said something negative about anyone there, we would
have been thrown out, and in some ways justifiably, so
like you can't disparage other people who are members of
this event, and again like that don't happen everywhere, but
we don't have things like that happen in Republican circles.
I have never gone to a Republican event and had
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someone like hold up a sign yeah, disparaging me in
any way. So it is it is much harder being
a Republican going into the LGBT world then the other
way around.
Speaker 2 (58:05):
Very interesting. Valdimar Archiletti.
Speaker 7 (58:07):
You can find out more about his campaign Archiletta for
Colorado dot com.
Speaker 2 (58:11):
Arch U L E. TA fo R Colorado dot com.
Speaker 7 (58:15):
As I mentioned, we watched the debate together in real
time on Tuesday Night with the Log Cabin Republicans, and
while Lindsey Davis and David MUIRR refuse to fact check
Kamala Harris on the fly, I want you to listen
to all of the hoaxes she fits in to this
one response unrefuted by either of the debate moderators, and
(58:36):
then pay careful attention to how inflammatory these are with
regard to Donald Trump, and again this threat that he poses.
I debunk each one of her lies and hoaxes with
actual words in context from Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (58:51):
I invite you to give this a listen.
Speaker 19 (58:52):
And on that day, the President of the United States
incited a violent mob to attack our nation's capital, to
desecrate our nation's capital. On that day, one hundred and
forty law enforcement officers were injured and some died.
Speaker 13 (59:11):
We have come to demand that Congress do the right
thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated,
lawfully slated.
Speaker 14 (59:23):
I know that.
Speaker 13 (59:23):
Everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol
Building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.
Speaker 2 (59:32):
Today we will see whether.
Speaker 13 (59:34):
Republicans stand strong for integrity.
Speaker 2 (59:38):
Of our elections.
Speaker 19 (59:39):
And understand, the former president has been indicted and impeached
for exactly that reason.
Speaker 15 (59:47):
But this is not an isolated situation.
Speaker 19 (59:50):
Let's remember Charlottesville, where there was a mob of people
carrying tiki torches spewing anti Semitic hate, and what did
the president then at the time say?
Speaker 15 (01:00:05):
There were fine people on each side, and.
Speaker 13 (01:00:07):
You had people and I'm not talking about the neo
Nazis and the white nationalists because they should be condemned totally,
but you had many people in that group other than
neo Nazis and white nationalists, okay, and the press has
treated them absolutely unfairly.
Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
Now in the.
Speaker 13 (01:00:25):
Other group, also you had some fine people, but you
also had troublemakers. And you see them come with the
black outfits and with the helmets and with the baseball bats.
You had a lot of bad You had a lot
of bad people in the other group too.
Speaker 19 (01:00:40):
Let's remember that when it came to the Proud Boys,
I'm militia, the president said.
Speaker 15 (01:00:47):
The former president.
Speaker 19 (01:00:47):
Said, stand back and stand by. So for everyone watching
who remembers what January sixth was, I say, we don't
have to go back.
Speaker 15 (01:00:59):
Let's not go back. We're not going back. It's time
to turn the page.
Speaker 19 (01:01:04):
And if that was a bridge too far for you,
well there is a place in our campaign for you
to stand for country, to stand for our democracy, to
stand for rule of law, and to end the chaos
and to end the approach that is about attacking the
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foundations of our democracy because you don't like the outcome,
and be clear on that point.
Speaker 15 (01:01:32):
Donald Trump, the.
Speaker 19 (01:01:32):
Candidate, has said in this election there will be a
blood bass if this and the outcome of this election
is not to his liking.
Speaker 13 (01:01:40):
Mexico has taken over a period of thirty years, thirty
four percent of the automobile manufacturing business.
Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
In our country. Think of it went to Mexico.
Speaker 13 (01:01:51):
China now is building a couple of massive plans where
they're going to build the cause of Mexico and think
they think that they're going to sell those cars into
the United States with no tax at the border.
Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
Let me tell you something to China.
Speaker 13 (01:02:04):
If you're listening, Presidency and you and I are friends,
but he understands the ideal those big monster car manufacturing
plants that you're building in Mexico right now, and you
think you're gonna get that, you're going to not hire
Americans and.
Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
You're going to sell the cars.
Speaker 13 (01:02:21):
Now, we're going to put a one tower on every
single car that comes across the line. And you're not
going to be able to sell those cars if I
get elected. Now, if I don't get elected, it's going
to be a blood bath for the whole that's going to.
Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
Be the least of it. It's going to be a
blood bath.
Speaker 13 (01:02:38):
For the country. That'll be the least of it. But
they're not going to sell those cars. They're building massive factories.
Speaker 15 (01:02:43):
Let's turn the page on this. Let's not go back.
Speaker 19 (01:02:46):
Let's chart a course for the future and not go
backwards to the past.
Speaker 7 (01:02:52):
Well, let's not do that. Kamala Harris pushing these three hoaxes.
Valdemar in knowing has to know each one of these
three completely false, but also knows that she won't be
corrected on it by these debate moderators or anybody else,
So they're free to perpetrate these lies and whatever impact
they have in the campaign will be to her benefit. Yeah,
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and those ones are like so old and easy to refree,
like I just did.
Speaker 8 (01:03:20):
I was like, really, or this is what you have
that you know, have to come up with something new? Yeah,
it's between you know. With the campaign, I've been going
to a lot of events and doing things like that.
But with log Cabin Republicans, We've gone to a lot
of pride festivals and so I'm out in the public
a lot talking to people, and those points she brought up,
they're just it's so old, Like we've been talking about
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that for so long and I'm so tired of it.
It's like, how do people still believe that?
Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
Who?
Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
And that just kind of goes to show how bad
the media is.
Speaker 8 (01:03:52):
I stated this, I was talking yesterday at that event
we were at that I've learned in this campaign also
that are our re elected officials lied to us far
more than I thought before, and I thought they were
liars before I started this, And our media is far
worse than I thought it was, and I did not
think highly of it before this. So it's terrible that
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there are people out there who would still believe such
blatant lies and like that. It's not that like, there's
just some like it takes a lot of explaining to
explain why that's not true.
Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
Like you show, there are video clips.
Speaker 8 (01:04:28):
You could just go to YouTube and watch what he
said and you can see that it is not true.
And so's it's frustrating that those narratives are still out
there and that some of them for years now we've
had to be talking about them and refuting them.
Speaker 7 (01:04:49):
If the media did its job that it was intended
to do as an independent arbiterre of the facts, it
would have been over right away. It would have been
over right away. They wouldn't be able to perpetuate these lives.
It's so easy running as a Democrat when you could
just push out this misinformation, have it be reinforced by
the media or completely ignored, not have it fact checked whatsoever.
Although Snopes did finally reveal a fact check about the
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good people on both sides Charlottesville host four years later, exactly.
But if this media truly called balls and strikes, I
think Trump will be up ten points right now.
Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
I really do.
Speaker 8 (01:05:21):
Yeah, I do too, if people would just be honest
about what and the like. Okay, there are things they
could complain about Trump. You know, he says a lot
of stuff. But why do they have to go outside
the lines. There's a makeup stuff, but they'll do. Those
are the things he does say that I guess are
kind of like the real things.
Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
It's just Trump being Trump.
Speaker 8 (01:05:38):
They want they want something that's gonna emotionally get at people,
and so they have to use the things that aren't true.
Speaker 7 (01:05:46):
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Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
I've seen you.
Speaker 7 (01:05:56):
We're not at each other's throats. I think we can
stand each other thing. Okay, thanks for your time today, Baltimar.
We'll take this time out when we come back. Plenty
to get to an hour number three, including Steven L. Miller,
the host of the Versus Media podcast and James Rosen,
White House correspondent for Newsmax newly added to the roster.
Still to come on The Roskeiminski Show with Ryan Schuling
(01:06:17):
filling in.
Speaker 13 (01:06:18):
She weaponized, I probably took a bullet to the head
because of the things that they say about me.
Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
They talk about democracy. I'm a threat to democracy.
Speaker 13 (01:06:28):
They're the threat to democracy.
Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
Was it take Russia? Russia?
Speaker 13 (01:06:31):
Russia investigation that went nowhere?
Speaker 7 (01:06:34):
That was from the debate on Tuesday night Donald Trump.
Then five days later on Sunday, Lester Holt for NBC News, Today's.
Speaker 20 (01:06:42):
Apparent assassination attempt comes and made increasingly fierce rhetoric on
the campaign trail itself. Mister Trump is running made JD.
Vance continue to make baseless claims about Haitian immigrants in Ohio.
Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
So it's rhetoric from Trump in Vance.
Speaker 7 (01:06:58):
That is responsible for the assess fascination attempt against Donald Trump.
You can't make this up. And there's more of it
from NBC News. We head over to WAPO the Washington
Post and as our next guest posted on X Washington
Post never disappoints the headline quote, Trump's stokes suspicions about
assassination attempt, raising fears of more violence subheading. After an
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initial period of relative restraint, the former president has begun
blaming the shooting on his opponents in amplifying conspiracy theories.
He is front end center covering the media covering Trump
and the Republicans pounce Conservatives sees Donald Trump in all
of this at the Versus Media podcast is where you
(01:07:44):
can find him online through his sub stack on x
you can follow him. He's one of the top follows
in my opinion on the entire platform at red.
Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
ST's ste z e Stephen L.
Speaker 7 (01:07:53):
Miller our guest Ryan Schuling filling in for Rosskominski on KOA.
Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
Stephen, welcome back.
Speaker 17 (01:07:59):
Hey, you mentioned Republicans sees that is literally part of
a story out of Politico from dc A. Republicans are
seizing on this opportunity now to paint Democrats as dangerous.
That's the exact wording that they use.
Speaker 7 (01:08:13):
It's so pathetic, it's predictable, and it's so predictable. It's pathetic, Stephen,
But it's gone to such loo lengths now after a
second assassination attempt facing Donald Trump, the media literally twisting
themselves in pretzels. To try to refocus the blame, the
responsibility and put it at the feet of Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
How do you explain this phenomenon, Well.
Speaker 17 (01:08:37):
It's like anything else during this election, which is, no
journalist is going to perceived as doing anything that can
be sympathetic or help Trump win this election. They believe that,
since the arrival of Kamala Harris, that this election is
a twenty sixteen do over, and they're out here to
kind of right the wrongs of covering her emails and everything.
(01:08:58):
And so no journalist kind of wants to be made
into a pariah in their social circle and their coop
kids journalism table as doing anything that could be perceived
to show Trump as a sympathetic figure, such as again
surviving another would be assassination attempt. There's the reason why
that photo of him from the first attempt has been
completely memory hold. CNM this morning did a segment on that,
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and they didn't use the photo from his first attempt,
that kind of one with the flag over his head
and his fist in the air. They used photos from
his quote room appearances. And these are all very deliberate
attempts to make sure that Donald Trump remains an unsympathetic
figure in the media. And it really is, I mean,
it really is that simple. We're at this place where
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the media thinks it's perfectly reasonable to blame Donald Trump
for inspiring assassination attempts against him. But it's entirely out
of bounds to suggest that Democrats rhetoric with democracy imperil
and fascism and Orange Hitler and He's Mussolini, that that
has any thing to do with any of this. And
so they're not going to stop doing this because again,
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they view this if you believe that Donald Trump is
this figure who is the greatest threat since the Civil War,
which is what Kamala Harris said at the debate, and
you believe that he has to be stopped at all times.
And that's kind of what's hollow about Joe Biden and
Kamala Harris saying we're glad he's okay. Really, You're glad
Hitler's okay, the second coming of Hitler is okay. Really,
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And so this is kind of a box that they
have created for themselves with their own rhetoric. But simple
fact is that media cannot show Donald Trump to be
the victim of anything.
Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
And it really is as simple, Steven L. Miller, our guest.
Speaker 7 (01:10:39):
Another example to this point from CNN, and this is
Juliet Kayum on the weaponization of the assassination attempt itself.
Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
Wow.
Speaker 11 (01:10:49):
The problem is this is a safety issue that has
been thrown into a very intense political environment in which
the very fact of an assassination a constitutional moment because
because because it's going to it could have impacted voters,
will be used for political purposes and not, to me
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is just not, as you know, exceptionally unfortunate, because whatever
your beliefs are, we do deserve to have campaigns that
are not uh part that where violence isn't being used
as either a sword or a shield.
Speaker 7 (01:11:27):
So an attempt on his life should not be used
by Donald Trump as a shield in the political sphere. So, Steve,
and I'm going to ask you a difficult question. What
would these members of the media have Donald Trump do
then in the wake of what happens Sunday.
Speaker 14 (01:11:43):
Uh, shut up and go away.
Speaker 17 (01:11:45):
That's what they want. And so it's interesting Julie Pan
as someone who talks a lot about stotastic terrorism, when
uh there were protests from truckers uh about the vaccine mandate,
she she gests flashing their tipayers and removing their trucks
up bridges, as if that's something that's possible. And so
you have a woman here who is she claims to
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be an expert in stochastic terrorism. And for anyone in
your audience who doesn't know what that is, is the
idea that anything you say insites terrorism while you know
you're inviting your own attacks. And I and I referenced
this that this is in just Donald Trump. We had
the Alexandria softball shooting in twenty seventeen from a Bernie
Sanders supporter and that was out of the news in
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three days and enjoy read on MSNBC Blaine Steams de
scalazi stance on healthcare for that shooting. We've had the
Spring Court justice stopper at Brett Kavanaugh's house who was
arrested with a gun and a knife and plan to
kidnap him or tie him up, and he explained that
this is because of their stance on row. You had
the Nashville non binary shooter shoot up a Christian elementary
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school and the media blame a harsh anti LGBT two
laws of Nashville, And so that's the dynamic that we
find ourselves in that if you're a Republican and you're
being shot at, it's your fault. And this all goes
back to while we we will defend and even ignore
things like Antifa causing millions of dollars of damages, and
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we've had reporters of NBC say Antifa is something that
doesn't exist. And so this is really the position May
staked out, is that it is the right's fault no
matter what. And if we shoot, if we shoot bullets
at you, if we try to assassinate you, if we
do any of this stuff, it's because of your policies,
It's because of your words. And this is a very
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very dangerous place that we're in the political left of
people in media like Julie Im believe that, you know,
speech coming from the political right is violence, while a
simultaneous to believe that violence coming from the political left
is simply just expression speech.
Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
He takes them on head on. Literally.
Speaker 7 (01:13:48):
It's the name of his podcast Versus Media on his
sub stack is where you can find it.
Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
Steven L.
Speaker 7 (01:13:53):
Miller, our guest will take a time out, come back
with much more. Remember you can follow him on x
at red Stea's that's ri ste Easy. I've got a
couple more clips for Stephen to react to when we
come back with more.
Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
Ryan Schuling filling in for Roskominski.
Speaker 21 (01:14:08):
I'm ka there to be called from within the Trump
campaign to do that, because he's going to reach out
to his supporters.
Speaker 11 (01:14:18):
And say, let's take this down.
Speaker 21 (01:14:21):
We do not know, again, the source of any gunshot
or gunshots.
Speaker 12 (01:14:26):
We don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
Who's responsible for this.
Speaker 21 (01:14:28):
The whole thing has yet to be one hundred percent
confirmed from start to finish how this all played out.
But do you expect to hear anything from the Trump
campaign about toning down the rhetoric, toning down the violence.
So would that be a typical of the former president?
Speaker 16 (01:14:45):
Well, Alex remember back to the assassination attempt from President
Trump's life and how you know, there was talk of
a new tone, and then the Republican Convention was by
Trump and standards muted, and it did seem like he was,
you know, just trying.
Speaker 15 (01:15:02):
To take it down a few notches. But then by
the end of his.
Speaker 22 (01:15:06):
Convention speech, you know, we were kind of back to
where we started.
Speaker 15 (01:15:10):
So I don't know how long this could lie.
Speaker 22 (01:15:14):
You know, this moment of unity for the country where
we come together and we say I don't want any
political opposition to be under threat of violence. It's not
okay any threat of violence, you know, we don't want.
Speaker 15 (01:15:28):
I would love for us to have a unity type moment.
Speaker 22 (01:15:31):
But I think it's probably going to be pretty fleeting.
Speaker 15 (01:15:33):
As we've seen.
Speaker 7 (01:15:34):
In the past, this complete lack of self awareness. It
does not even occur to either Alex Wit or at
least Jordan MSNBC. There that perhaps, maybe, just possibly, there
could be some inflammatory rhetoric coming from Kamala Harris her campaign,
the left and Democrats, But no, how can we blame
Donald Trump for this and frame it in such a
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way that he's responsible for the attack on his own life?
Stephen Ellman are still with US Versus Media podcast host Stephen,
you have pointed out a litany of such observations from
the media in the wake of Sunday's events.
Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
What do you make what you just heard?
Speaker 17 (01:16:12):
And let's NBC has incentivized this kind of rhetoric. So
you also had Claire McCaskill, who was on this last week,
who basically said Trump is a combination of Adolf Hitler
and Roberto Mussolini. And so when you throw out in
Flamma bray things like this, they believe that that's what
brings more eyeballs to their network. It's you know, it's
the car crash mentality. And so the more that you
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ractionre up this kind of rhetoric, the more they're incentivized
to come back and say more of it and say
even more outlandish things and more outlandish things. And mind
you again, they have a host in somebody like Joy Reid,
who this has been her entire career, and so this
has a lot to do with it. And I'm not
one of these people where necessarily blame you know, political
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rhetoric for some of this stuff. But this guy who
did this on Trump, you know, this past weekend, this
guy's been interviewed by several news outlets. He was featured
in the New York Times, he was interviewed by Newsweek Europe.
He was interviewed by Semaphore, which is Ben Smith of
BuzzFeed's former outlets, And a lot of it had to
do with his, you know, pro Ukrainian sympathies and him
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trying to recruit Afghanistan soldiers and Americans to go fight Ukraine.
This guy was so obsessed with Ukraine, I'm surprised he
didn't have his own show on MSNBC. And so when
you hear things like this, this is the reason why.
And again, at least Burdon is someone who's not stupid,
She's not particularly not dumb, and so she knows what
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she's doing here. Again, this goes right back to the
fact that if Alisee Jordan comes on to MSNBC and
tells Morning Joe A, Rachel Maddow, hey, pump the brakes
on some of this stuff, she doesn't get invited back.
And that has a lot to do with these current
kind of stances. You would have CNN basically saying the
same thing with Jim Acosta and Dana Bash and a
few others, and they know that they basically say, hey, yeah,
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maybe Donald Trump isn't the second coming to Daydalf Hitler.
They know that that's something their audience doesn't want to hear,
and they know that that is something that could get
them excoriated both inside their network and outside of it.
Speaker 7 (01:18:12):
Final thought here Stephen on this opinion piece from The
Inquirer entitled there is no place in politics for violence
that said the former President Donald Trump brings a lot
of this stuff on himself. Tony Francois replied, there's no
place for sexual assault. That said, hot, he's going about
in yoga pants, and then you said, quote stop making
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us try to murder you.
Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
Explain the media. I mean, this is so blatant.
Speaker 7 (01:18:37):
Are there really a large percentage of Americas, let's say,
persuadable ones that are going to fall for this crap?
Speaker 17 (01:18:43):
I think we're so polarized as a country, and I
think Joe Biden has a lot to do with that.
I think Kamala Harris has a lot to do with that,
and Trump himself can be a polarizing figure. But this
idea again that you're responsible for us trying to murder you.
This is something that I I don't know if people
go for this or not, because these are these are
media members who are speaking within the confines of their
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own newsrooms, their own peer groups. There are a lot
of media commentary like this is now just for each other.
It's not for the viewer. It's not for us to
you know, read and digest and think about and and
then you know, just or can and take a part ourselves.
It's mainly done to satisfy their peers in media and
their colleagues. And this is kind of just one of
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these things about Hey, yeah, I wrote this take. I'm
the one that wrote what you guys are all thinking.
It's all. I don't know how persuadable it is, but
it certainly is something that's you know, in the back
of their heads. They're all thinking about it. And that's
what I said. When you know, when you classify your
political opponents, they all hitler. We don't believe you when
you say your classicaler wasn't killed. And that's again, this
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is a rhetorical problem that Joe Biden has created by
basically calling Donald Trepp an extential threat to the country
and leisential threat to democracy. Fam O'Hara is called him
the biggest threat to democracy since the Civil War, and
so these things have consequences, And like I said, the
problem is they're allowed to get away with this because
a lot of the media is in their pocket. And
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so again, Trump can be an inflammatory guy. And I'm
not a Trump voter, but this idea that you know,
he's responsible for us trying to murder you, I mean,
I don't know how this gets better. I mean, maybe
somebody does have to die, maybe a Supreme Court justice
does have to get assassinated, except we know that the
line there would be Luke Samuel Alito if your fault
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for overturning roeby Wade. And so this is something that's
hard to walk back from.
Speaker 2 (01:20:38):
Unfortunately, it's cynical.
Speaker 17 (01:20:40):
It doesn't go anywhere.
Speaker 7 (01:20:41):
But it's cynical, it's reflexive, it's lazy, and we need
somebody to call it out. And that person is Steven L.
Miller on his Versus Media podcast. That's why it exists.
Find it on his substack and you can follow him
on x at red Stee's always great stuff, Steven. We
appreciate your time. We'll talk to you again soon anytime. Right,
all right, we'll take this time out about the hour break.
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We'll come back. James Rosen of Newsmax joins me, Ryan
Schuling filling in for Rosskominski.
Speaker 15 (01:21:13):
It's not funny.
Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
I know you.
Speaker 19 (01:21:14):
Wait Wait a minute, hold on, hold on, wait.
Speaker 15 (01:21:19):
Hold on, it's not funny.
Speaker 2 (01:21:22):
Wait no, it is not wait I'm answering.
Speaker 15 (01:21:26):
Let me answered.
Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
Not everybody wants to hear the sound of your voice, sir, give.
Speaker 21 (01:21:33):
Me a second and I will tell you my answer.
Speaker 15 (01:21:36):
It's not funny.
Speaker 2 (01:21:39):
That was funny, A right?
Speaker 7 (01:21:40):
Sheerling back with you in the stretch drive here the
Ross Komenski Show on this Monday edition. And uh, who
you heard there was, of course KJP, Kareem John Pierre
and in the background our next guest. He is the
chief White House correspondent for Newsmax. You can find him
on X at James Rosen TV. Apparently KJP thinks he
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doubles as a stand up comedian.
Speaker 2 (01:22:02):
James, were you trying to be funny?
Speaker 10 (01:22:05):
No, it might just come naturally to me. But this
was in the context Ryan of a question that had
been asked at the White House Press briefing about former
President Trump's claims concerning Springfield, Ohio and recent threats that
had materialized in that community. And three or four times
Jean Pierre, in her answer to another reporter's question, had
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discussed the fact that this was striking at a vulnerable
community and that you know, when you have vulnerable communities
like this, et cetera, and so forth. And I think
I heard the term of vulnerable community three or four
times in a sixty second period. So I finally practiced
the art of interjection, which I'm always forced to do
in that briefing room setting, because miss Jean Pierre has
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not called on me since last November. And I simply asked,
are there invulnerable communities? And she tried to say, you're
trying to make a joke, and I said, I'm not joking,
it's really And then I took a lot of abuse
online from supporters of the administration Ryan who thought that
my interjection was racist the vulnerable community to which Jean
Pierre had been referring as Haitian Americans, And really my
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interjection had nothing to do with the races, had everything
to do with language. The repeated suggestion that it was
unacceptable for anyone to target a vulnerable community like this
raised the question as to whether, in fact there exists
in vulnerable communities too it is presumably okay to direct
such threats. It was really a call for tighter language
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and a more precise use of language in a setting
where it's supposed to count for something.
Speaker 7 (01:23:38):
It's supposed to count for something, James, and they're supposed
to call on reporters that may in fact challenge their narrative,
but they are very reticent to do so you mentioned
your personal example, but there are other reporters in that
press corps who have been similarly blacklisted as you have been.
I don't recall that happening in the Trump administration. I
could be wrong, and maybe you can set me straight there.
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But the exercise that you just went through, James, I
think was so important because they fall into these kind
of set catch phrases. They're almost throwaway phrases at this
point where they don't really think about it. They don't
have to think about it, they're not challenged on it,
and when they are challenged as you did, they don't
really have an answer because it does set up kind
of a buffoonish presence, right, like what is an invulnerable
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community that would be fair to target?
Speaker 2 (01:24:25):
They just use this language.
Speaker 7 (01:24:27):
That is accepted within this kind of catacol of an
echo chamber, and it's never pressed. You did press, and
that's not welcomed in the press, I guess.
Speaker 10 (01:24:37):
Not at least for me. Look, I mentioned that I
haven't been called on by Jean Pierre in press briefing
since last November. That's almost ten months now, I guess,
And that occasion was where I asked about the entire
edifice of negative polling data against President Biden, where for
more than two plus years his job approval ratings were underwater.
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The voters in both parties were giving him poor marks
on the handling of the economy, foreign policy, saying that
he was too old, that he shouldn't run again. And
I asked John Pierre if the White House at any
basis for challenging the accuracy of all of that data.
And she said, one ill advised thing after another. The
second even worse. The first illivized thing was, I don't
challenge the accuracy of all of that, but we've never
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challenged the accuracy of all that polling data. Now, in
those two and a half years of negative polling data,
no one from the White House had ever actually credited
the legitimacy of the polling data. If she didn't, she
didn't really have to do that. She could simply have said, look, James,
polls are one important metric, and I understand the emphasis
you're placing on them, but there's a lot of metrics
to which we pay attention. And for example, when this
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president goes out on the road, the enthusiasm he feels
is off the charts, you know, standards is spinning and flackery.
And then after saying that they don't challenge the legitimacy
of the polls, and as Jean Pierre told me, we're
not going to change the minds of Americans, I.
Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
Get that now.
Speaker 10 (01:26:01):
That was a truly stunning acknowledgment, that that fidnomics hadn't worked,
that all the slogans hadn't worked, and that they were
going to have to stand for re election without turning
around those negative job approval running ratings. In the end,
they tried that, and in the end, Jean Pierre was
quite prescient. They did not change the minds of American.
She said, we're not going to and they didn't. And
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then again, you know, right before that became manifestly clear,
when the president had had to had to leave the race,
you talk about catchphrases, Ryan, you know, we were told
that the concerns about the president's age simply reflected the
proliferation of cheap fake videos by slick actors out there
on the internet, all in a day's work, I suppose.
Speaker 2 (01:26:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (01:26:44):
James Rosen TV is where you can find him on
x You can watch them virtually every night on Newsmax
as the Chief White House correspondent. James Rosen our guest,
and he is reporting live from the White House as
we speak. James, I want to talk timeline with you
from yesterday when the attempted assassination, the second one against
Donald Trump made the news, broke the news cycle, and
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Kamala Harris responded to it. She is the current candidate
for president of the United States. It would make sense that
she would respond in some way, shape, manner, or form,
but that we had the President Biden's statement come much
longer after that, and he is the sitting president of
the United States on whose watch this just happened. Can
you put this together for us and why you feel
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the statements were released in the order that they were
and why they were so far apart.
Speaker 10 (01:27:31):
I'll have to check the times of the statements.
Speaker 17 (01:27:36):
I saw that the.
Speaker 10 (01:27:36):
Statement from the Vice President came out last night in
which she said she was deeply disturbed by this and
expressed gratitude that the former president was safe. I would
have to go back and check out the timing. I
know that President Biden spoke to reporters on the south
lawn of the White House as he made his way
to his helicopter this morning, and the President suggested that
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the service may be understand and he said that the
service needs more resources, and he called on Congress to
help them meet those needs. And in her statement earlier,
Vice President Harris had said, the Biden Harris administration will
do whatever is necessary to ensure that the Service has
the resources it needs. Now an interesting split there. You
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have the Vice President saying the administration will make sure
the Service.
Speaker 14 (01:28:27):
Has what it needs.
Speaker 10 (01:28:28):
You have the President saying, in essence, it's going to
fall to Congress to make sure that the Secret Service
has what it needs.
Speaker 7 (01:28:34):
James, in your experience as White House correspondent, you have
a unique perspective that very few people will ever have
what access the media has to a sitting president now,
whether he was in the race, out of the race,
now he's effectively a lame doc that really hasn't changed
access to the president. And they've had the conduit with
Green John Pierre. That's not the same as you and
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I both know. But you're a historian of this sort
of thing as well, dating well back to let's say
Ronald Reagan, and he was criticized at times for not
giving enough direct access to the media. But in all
the presidents that have followed in your time covering this,
following this, has there been a president less accessible to
the public, to the media than Joe Biden.
Speaker 10 (01:29:15):
In a word, no, And a good example of this
came just on Friday when mister Biden welcomed to the
White House the new British Prime Minister Kirs Starmer, who
in ideological terms is aligned with the President in so
far as mister Starmer is the leader of the Liberal
Labor Party over in the UK. Now, when any head
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of state visits the White House, and especially when any
British Prime Minister visits for the White House, that person,
in being the very embodiment of the so called special
relationship between the United States and the United Kingdom, that
individual would receive both the honor and the welcome exposure
of a small scale news conference with the presidents of
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the United States at the White House, where a typical
solo news conference by the President with the White House
Press Corps would involve the taking of ten to fifteen
questions over an hour's time, maybe ten questionners what have you?
These shorter, small scale news conferences with foreign heads of
state are called two plus twos, because each of the
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press corps, the White House press corps that's being visited
and the visiting press corps that's accompanying the foreign head
of state would each get two questions perone. So at
two plus two, the Biden erst administration began doing away
with that convention, probably a little over two years ago now,
so that we would see someone like the German Chancellor
all Off Schultz arrive at the White House and not
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get a news conference with the President. We would see
a figure of the stature of Lula de Silva, the
returned president of Brazil, one of the world's largest, most
important economies, come to the White House, and instead of
getting a two plus two with President Biden, he would
be reduced to stepping out after the meeting to the
stakeout position the way congressmen do to address his own
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press corps there.
Speaker 14 (01:31:02):
And so here we.
Speaker 10 (01:31:03):
Had the British Prime Minister here at the White House
on Friday, and there was no two plus two, there
was no news conference. It's one of the number of
different ways in which the Biden political operation and the
communications team here at the White House have shielded this
president from the press.
Speaker 7 (01:31:18):
Corps well We've seen that carry over to the coverage
of Kamala Harris as well. And I know that's not
your direct beat in covering the current candidate, the vice president,
Kamala Harris James, but it's more of the same. And
I want to go back, just briefly, final question and
get your take on Tuesday night's debate on ABC News. Now, personally,
I can think of nobody better to conduct a debate
as a moderator than yourself. And whether that would happen
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probably not, just because of the network.
Speaker 10 (01:31:43):
You're affiliate elected, I would.
Speaker 2 (01:31:44):
Serve there you go exactly, but just your take. I
know you're very.
Speaker 7 (01:31:50):
Just very hesitant to criticize your colleagues, but just in
terms of how that debate unfolded, the fact checking being
imbalanced as it was, which I have no problem with
them trying to correct President Trump in real time if
they make the same effort against Kamala Harris. They did not,
and now there is talk of an investigation as to
whether there was somebody at ABC News who had leaked
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some form of the questions to Kamala Harris ahead of
time and promised her that Donald Trump would be fact
check she would not be just your post debate analysis
of how that event all went down.
Speaker 10 (01:32:22):
There's no question that the moderators were tougher on former
President Trump. In the very first question, the Vice president
was asked to explain some policy shifts that she had
made over the years, and she said at the beginning
of her reply that she was going to get to
each of the policy areas that were mentioned by the question,
and she got to none of them, and that was
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not followed up. Yes, the follow ups were reserved almost
exclusively for former President Trump. The fact checks the same.
There was one moment where mister Muir of ABC News
posed a question to former President Trump about January sixth,
and the very next question that went to Vice President
Harris was along these lines that mister Trump has vowed
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to prosecute his political enemies after the election. Is that
what you think he's up to here, Madam Vice President?
Trying to suppress the vote? It was a complete softball,
give me question for the Vice president in that circumstance,
coming off of a very tough one for former President Trump.
I wasn't too familiar with Lindsay Davis. I have followed
David Muir for some time and have always admired him,
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continue to admire him as a reporter. I felt disappointed
in the performance that night.
Speaker 2 (01:33:30):
That said, for.
Speaker 10 (01:33:31):
Former President Trump, he could have and effectively did, predict
that he would find Abc not to his liking in
this in this instance, and he had to be prepared
for that kind of situation. He also should have been
prepared for the Vice president making good on her promise
that she was going to try to goad the former
president get under his skin, and she succeeded at various
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points in doing that. The former president at times was
baited in discussing long ago controversies like the Central Five,
and when asked about his challenge to her racial identity,
doubled down on that instead of simply saying that this
is someone who is a kind of a chameleonic figure
who puts on a different face for different audiences and
so forth. A lot of missed opportunities for mister Trump.
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By the same token, I do think that he spoke
in ways that or so called ordinary voters can more
readily understand. He was the only candidate on that stage
to discuss the price of cereal and bacon and eggs,
and he got off the beat line of the night
when he told Vice President Harris that showed awake President
Biden up at four pm in the afternoon and get
him out of bed. I don't think he knows that
he's alive. If somebody had to be declared victorious in
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that debate, it probably was Vice President Harris because she
kept her lines of attack more forceful and clear. By
the same token, it struck me that we emerged from
this much anticipated debate with pretty much the same race
that we had going into that debate.
Speaker 7 (01:34:56):
A fair analysis, and that's what you can count on
when you watch him nightly on New Max as the
chief White House correspondent. You can follow him on X
at James Rosen TV. Always generous with his time. James,
appreciate you as always. We'll talk again down the line.
Speaker 10 (01:35:10):
Thank you, Ryan as always.
Speaker 7 (01:35:11):
All right, James Rosen there, Newsmax, Chief White House Correspondent. Now,
in addition to James doing his good work, I wanted
to point out Martha Raddits. I know, an unusual nominee
ABC News, but put together this entire questioning of Governor
Mara Haley. No, no, she's not a big hitter for
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the Democrats. She is the sitting governor of Massachusetts. But
as a conduit for the Harris campaign, I don't think
she fared very well here, and Martha raddits credit to her,
came out swinging.
Speaker 15 (01:35:44):
I want to.
Speaker 2 (01:35:44):
Ask you.
Speaker 23 (01:35:46):
About her comments about the military. She said during the debate.
This about the US military.
Speaker 19 (01:35:54):
Let's listen, As of today, there is not one member
of the United States military who is in active duty
in a combat zone in any war zone around the world,
the first time this century.
Speaker 23 (01:36:09):
Our thought checkers found that to be false. And I
have a lot of experience in that area as well.
There are currently nine hundred US military personnel in Syria,
twenty five hundred US troops in Iraq, all have been
under regular threat from drones and missiles for months. We
also have action in the Red Sea. We also every
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single day the Navy Seals Delta Forces special operators can
be part of any sort of deadly raid. So why
would she make that claim.
Speaker 24 (01:36:41):
I think what's important here, Martha, is that Kamala Harris,
in contrast to Donald Trump, demonstrated herself to be commander
in chief. We are in a world where there are
all sorts of conflicts and it's all the more reason.
We need somebody who's serious and who supports the military.
And just remember governor, the governor.
Speaker 23 (01:37:00):
Excuse me, but she said there is not one member
of the United States military who is an active duty
in a combat zone. That is not true. You say,
she demonstrated her ability to be commander in chief, But
did she not know about these people in Syria and Iraq?
Why would she say.
Speaker 15 (01:37:19):
That that was a comment. That was a comment in
a debate.
Speaker 24 (01:37:23):
I think the point that she was trying to make
was a broader point. And of course we had military
in place all around this country.
Speaker 7 (01:37:28):
Uh, all across this country, across the world. You mean,
And Martha Raddits, what was this? Was this accidental journalism
or was this a cleanup on Aisle nine?
Speaker 2 (01:37:40):
Or she knows? Martha Raddits, does that?
Speaker 7 (01:37:43):
Lindsey Davis and David Muir dropped the ball in moderating
this debate that they went so far to both protect
Harris and try to undermine Trump, fact checking him several times,
and in several instances their fact checks were debatable at best,
and I'll write false at worst. Was this Martha Raddits
perhaps trying in some way to salvage the journalistic reputation
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of ABC News, of which she is.
Speaker 2 (01:38:07):
A very proud part.
Speaker 7 (01:38:08):
She serves a prominent role and has for some time.
She has moderated debates in the past, and perhaps this
from her personal perspective, was her way of letting her
bosses know that, you know what, I should have been
moderating the debate. That's just a thesis by me, But
in my position, I can understand that if Martha Rattits
watched that debate play out, and she's no fan of
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Donald Trump, but she knows generally speaking that that debate
was not fairly moderated, that she trusts her own professional
instincts more, and she executed the fact check that we
just heard that should have been done in real time
if the moderators had taken it upon themselves to be
fact checkers. During a debate, Lindsey Davis revealed that they
were just trying to kind of overcompensate for a CNN
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debate that they felt Trump wasn't fact checked enough. Albeit
they're going to totally ignore the whole premise of fact checking. Harris,
here is the easy solution to that. Don't try fact
checking at all. It's up to the other candidate to
fact check his or her opponent, as Donald Trump did
in real time during that debate against Harris, but Harris
had the help of the heavy lifting by both Lindsay
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Davis and David Muir to do that so she wouldn't
have to. I'm that very interesting and I think you
might too. Well, that'll be it for me from here
for now. I'll talk to you again tomorrow. Jimmy Sangenberger
filling in the rest of the week Wednesday through Saturday.
Thanks for joining me today. Stay tuned. The Mandy Connell
Show is next. Ryan Schuling filling in. This has been
the Roskominski Show on KOA.