9-20-24 - *FULL SHOW* Jimmy Sengenberger Filling In For Ross with Robyn Carnes; Amy Whitesell; Joe Wren & Natasha Lynn

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Aron just never missing the opportunity. Jimmy Sangenberger.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Obviously, when you hear the harmonica, Lauren like that is
Jimmy Sangenberger filling in for Roskaminski one more day on
this Friday, the twentieth of September, and we do have
some more music fun coming up, and I mean with

(00:36):
other musicians, not just yours truly riffing on the harmonica,
because we've got Joe Wren and Natasha Lynn, two young
country musicians in town who have amazing voices. They were
recently on stage at the Colorado Country Music Hall of

(00:59):
Fame Festival, which is a phenomenal event, great time, and
I'm excited to bring them in studio. Bottom of the
last hour, the eleven o'clock hour, we will have a
live jam session with yours truly on harmonica. It'll be
an absolute blast. But I want to get right to

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a topic that is important to me because well it
just so happens to be the subject of my Friday
column for the Denver Gazette, where I am the investigative
columnists published on Tuesdays and Fridays, and today's piece is
an important one. It's entitled jeff Co's politicized PTA hijacked

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by the left, And I say it's an important one
because when parents get involved in parent teacher associations or
separate parent teacher organizations, they're two different things. PTA is
different from PTO in terms of structure and how they operate.
When parents get involved in those organizations, they do so

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to raise money for their kids' school, to help with events,
to support the teachers, to make sure students are getting
additional resources, or going on field trips or whatever it
is that they're trying to help out with. They don't
get involved for political reasons. And yet politics is exactly

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the problem here with the Colorado Parent Teacher Association PTA.
And there's an important story here in my mind, because
it really illustrates the way in which the leadership of
the state PTA operates. When a Jefferson County mother named

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Carrie Mama challenged the Colorado PTA's hardline stance on controversial legislation,
it was as though she had crossed a line. She
went onto X and shared and challenged testimony from the
Director of Legislative Engagement for the PTA, Don Fritz, who
had supported a bill was House Bill twenty four DASH

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ten thirty nine earlier this year.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Effectively, it's a.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Law because it was passed that effectively blocks parents guaranteed
right to know about their children's gender, identity and social
transitions in schools, which seems like a no brainer to require,
but the Colorado PTA opposed it, and Don Fritz went
and testified against it. Now she accused Kerrie Mama of

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spreading personal disapproval and being culpable for essentially responsible for
malicious online attacks that ended up going in the direction
of Don Fritz. Because when a controversial topic is testified
on and that video gets out there, people are going
to respond. That's sort of how the natural course of

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events happens. Doesn't mean it's all appropriate or all good.
Some of it will be reprehensible, most of it will
be reasonable. That's sort of how things work in politics.
But Fritz didn't like what happened, so she complained to
the president of the local district accountability Committee. You might
not know this, but every school district in the state

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has required by law a district accountability committee that is
mostly consisting of parents that gather together and they provide
oversight on finances and other things for the schools. And
Don Fritz, who is, remember, the director of Legislative Engagement
for the Colorado PTA, just so happens to represent the PTA,

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specifically the Jefferson County PTA on the Jeffco School's DAK
District Accountability Committee, and she went to the president of
the DAK complaining that Mama had violated the dak's code
of conduct. Me get this straight, Carrie Mamma was vice
president at the time vice chair of the DAK, And

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so the director of Legislative Engagement, who goes down to
the Capitol to testify on a very controversial bill taking
a hardline stance on behalf of the Colorado PTA, gets
criticized by somebody who is a leader in another organization
that isn't the PTA, and so she goes to the

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president of that other organization and says, hey, we need
to do something about this person who's in the DAK
about what she said about the PTA. Absolute nonsense, But
it led to a private meeting with the mother Krrie Mama,
who again was DAK vice chair and included the president
of the DAK as well as the jeff Jefferson County

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DAC as well as the president of the Colorado PTA,
Amy Pritchard and a jeff Co school board member, Mary Parker, So,
a school board member and the president of the PTA,
came to a meeting that was about something a DAC
member and leader said about the PTA. I hope you

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can follow along with the lunacy here because it makes
absolutely no sense why you would go to a different
organization to try and silence somebody who is critical of
your role in a particular group, in this case the PTA. Now,
Fritz said, and I quote according to a recording of
this meeting that happened on April fifth, my goal is

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to feel safe. I don't feel safe. She went on
to call Mama's tweets cyber bullying, even though she admitted
that her fears came from others online, not from Carrie
Mummer herself, but Don Fritz, the director of Legislative Engagement
for the Colorado PTA, wanted to restrict Mama's speech on

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social media.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Now, she did agree to not.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
To post about what things Fritz was doing or saying
while she remained vice chair of the DACK. Again, one
organization being used to prevent criticism of another organization, and
then there was a whole length the email back and forth,

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where Don Fritz later on went ahead and accused Kerrie
Mama of public animosity and a conflict of interest, wanting
her not to be involved in the process for electing
a new vice chair. Needless to say, this is an
example of leader at the Colorado PTA statewide organization leveraging

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her connections to deflect criticism and accountability for controversial positions
taken by the Colorado PTA, and they have a long
history this year in particular of taking controversial positions on
ballot measures, including two measures that didn't make the ballot,

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one of which would have required parental notification when issues
of gender identity come up at schools, and also another
protecting girls' sports. They didn't make the ballot. There's a
whole story behind why they didn't make the ballot. When
they didn't make the ballot, Don Fritz, that director of
Legislative Engagement, celebrated the fact that those measures did not

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make the ballot, and on and on it goes.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
I do want to talk.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
A little bit more about this because I think it's
something critical for parents to be aware of, especially particularly
if your school has a PTA Parent teacher association.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
You might want to.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Consider starting or changing into a parent Teacher organization which
is very different, or at the very least start pushing
back a little bit with the Colorado PTA.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
So we're going to take a break.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
When we come back, I'm going to dive into this
just a little bit more and offer suggestions on how you,
if you are a parent, can get involved and make
a difference. I'm Jimmy Sangenberger just getting started filling in
for ros Kaminsky right here on KOA, talking about the
Colorado Parent Teacher Association, which has been hijacked by the

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left with a concerted effort to push a left wing
political agenda. I was just talking about the Director of
Legislative Engagement, Don Fritz, and how she was criticized by
a woman, a mother in Jefferson County, who is the
vice chair of a Jefferson County school district organization, the

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District Accountability Committee, and tried to use that organization to
silence this mother when the mother had criticized testimony that
Don Fritz had given before the Colorado legislature about a
bill to essentially take away a right to guarantee, preventing

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the guarantee of a right.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
For parents to.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Know when their kids are dealing with gender identity issues
or socially transitioning in schools.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
But that's just the tip of the iceberg.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
There has been a real political bent and a slew
of areas. The Colorado PTA took positions on ninety eight bills.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
This past legislative session.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
They supported eighty nine, only twenty six of them either
lost or were vetoed, and they opposed nine, defeating eight
of the nine that they opposed. Taking positions now on
many different ballot measures and big push against school choice.

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This is something that is striking to mean because you
would think that a parent teacher association is about empowering parents,
meaning guaranteeing a parent's right to know what's going on
with their kids at school. Apparently not for the Colorado PTA.
Guaranteeing a parent's right to determine the best school for
their kid to go to apparently not the desire of

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the Colorado PTA. And we know this because a number
of those bills that they opposed that the legislature were
ones that effectively advanced the cause of school choice. Now,
I reached out to both Don Fritz and the Vice

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President for Advocacy, Evie Hoodak, of the Colorado PTA now
Ivy Hood Act. You might remember, was a state senator,
resigned eleven years ago to prevent herself from being recalled.
And yet she is heavily involved in so many different
things going on in the education world, leveraging her background

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in politics to become that kind of influential person. And
she expressly said this on Facebook once quote be careful
when you speak of charter schools. She denounced them as
a push for privatization by those quote trying to destroy
public education, so a very strong bent. I couldn't get

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responses from either Fritz or Hudak, but I did speak
with two sources who were familiar with the Colorado PTA's
inner workings, speaking anonymously with me for fear of repercussions,
and they were both very clear about how political this
has gone. You can see what they said in my

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column today at the Denver Gazette Denver Gazette dot com.
Jeffco's politicized PTA, hijacked by the left, and it has
been on issue after issue, time after time. This is
a parent organization that has gone super political and it's astonishing,
Why why are they doing this? And it's really three

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people that it comes down to who are responsible for this.
Don Fritz, the director of Legislative Engagement, I HUDAC, vice
president for Advocacy, and Sarah Robeards at Roberts also and
I find this just this one final thing to note.

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I find this rather interesting. So we talked about a
moment ago Don Fritz, the Directive of Legislative Engagement for
the PTA, trying to use another organization in Jefferson County
to silence a jeff Co mom who was criticizing Fritz
and the PTA and some of their positions that they
had taken. That's an example of deflection and playing victim. Well,

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that's something that's par for the course. Here from a Cora,
which is where I gathered and understood a lot of
these email components and some things you'd see in the column.
Corra Request brought back a rather interesting email regarding a
previous column that I'd written almost a year ago in October.

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Evie Hudak sharing my column which was entitled parents must
be Empowered to Choose schooling saying this guy never misses
an opportunity to attack me and Jeffco's District Accountability Committee.
And the email was sent to the head of the
Jefferson County DAK, a couple of district officials, and Don Fritz,

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the president of the Colorado PTA, Emmy Pritchard, and Sarah Roberts.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Quite a list, an interesting list of people.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
To just go ahead and complain to one school official
district official who I won't name because it's not not necessary.
The person says, I'm sorry, EVI. Unfortunately, as public servants,
it's not unusual to be part of media inquiry or attacks. Look,
that was far from what was done in the column,

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but it is really interesting to see how they deflect
when there is criticism, when there is exposure, and that
will only come more and more as there is more
exposure of organizations like the Coloradopta that have been in
fact hijacked by the left. I'm j B saying in
Berger filling in for Ross Kaminski. We could keep it

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right here on KOA in for Ross Kiminski on this Friday.
And look, there's a headline that to me is very
stirring in the Denver Post. Colorado's next Tabor refund will
be the last big one for a while, state forecasters predict.

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And here's a little bit of what the piece says
expect Colorado's upcoming state tax refund to be the last
big one for a while. Forecasts by legislative economists released
on Thursday predict a softening of economic conditions, tighter budget forecasts,
and recent changes to state law. Together, those are expected

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to decrease state refunds due under Colorado's Taxpayers Bill of
Rights or TABOR from recent historic highs. Projections put TABOR
refunds for individual filers at between one hundred and eighty
one dollars and five hundred and seventy one dollars this
upcoming tax season, depending on household income, but the year

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after that, refunds are expected to drop to forty one
dollars per taxpayer and remain below seventy five dollars per
filer for the following two years, the forecast show.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Now this is.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Stirring to me, because, yes, there are some budget forecasts
that are lower in terms of the money that is
expected to come in. Colorado has done pretty well in
terms of revenue over the past several years. Economic conditions
likely not to be quite as good. But then there
are also a slew of laws that were put into

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place in the Colorado State legislature signed into law by
Governor Polis that pull away from taxpayer refunds due under TABOR,
basically using it for other purposes that don't fit what
the intention is supposed to be, where the money under

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Tabor is supposed to come back to the people when
the threshold allowed for spending is reached. So that is
to say, you bring in certain amount of money.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
There's a Tabor cap.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
At a certain point, you have as much money as
you're allowed to spend under Tabor, and then the rest
has to go to the people. And yet they found
these gimmicks to change in the tax code where it's like, oh,
we're going to use Tabor refunds for this purpose or
that purpose instead. And this is something that was basically

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done to undermine a past provision in the California state
Constitution that had something very similar. It was called Gan
and over time that was eroded by things like this,
and it was a pivotal check, a very important check
and balance on the government and on government excess when

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it comes to spending and revenue. Colorado can't follow California's
path in that area and playing Tabor games with taxpayer
dollars not returning money that's due to the people. To me,
is as bad as putting into place taxes disguised as fees.

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When the people are supposed to vote on taxes, on
tax increases, that's going to happen.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
The people have a say.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
But yet for many many years, well over a decade,
we have seen many folks in the legislature get away
with new fees on a range of things. We have
a gas fee on top of the gas tax that
will be going into effect. They kicked the can down
the road because people weren't happy. They wanted to delay

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the implementation of the new gas fee. But that's on
top of the existing gas tax, and they didn't come
to a vote of the people. So we are seeing
run around after run around after run around of the
taxpayer's bill of rights on both the spending side, where
they want to use them for token programs so they

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don't return it to the people. Instead, they just rearrange
how the taber dollars go. Say it's a tax credit
or something like that on the one hand, or it's
we're not going to go to vote to the people
because we can circumvent the people by saying, hey, this
is a fee, not a tax. It is a fee.

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My goodness.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
We have to watch this because it is it is.
Colorado is so.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Unique to have the Taxpayers Bill of Rice, to have Tabor,
and it gives great protections that need to be held
as sacro sank and that's why we need to make
sure that the legislature heads in a direction that is more,
shall we say, in favor of taxpayers than not. And

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that's why I'm pleased to have here in studio Robin
karn She is currently a member of the Centennial City
Council and she is running for Senate District sixteen. She
is a Republican in a district that is held by Democrat.
And Folks, this is a unique situation where you have
a few different districts for the state Senate that could

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potentially flip, and this is one of them. Robin Karnes
joins me. Now, good morning, welcome to the show, and
welcome in studio.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
Well, hi, Jimmy, thanks so much for having me on.
I could not help but just think as you were sharing,
the biggest problem is we forget who we're working for.
What you just described with Tabor, it aligns with what's
happening under the Golden Doma. That is, there is no
more a respect for people, the fact that government should
be working for the people.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
It's not happening. It's pure arrogance.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
And as a citizen, I'm fed up. And I can
tell you why is that happening is because we have
such an imbalance under the Golden Dome right now. We
are dominated by one party and all their political ideologies
is very unfair. I don't think it's truly representative of
Coloradin's We no longer can have balanced dialogue right.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
Because we have these complex.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
Issues that require robust and diverse discussions. But it's not
happening because we have one party in charge. So no wonder,
no wonder where we're at.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
And it's not just in charge but rock solid as
far as the dominance that they have, and whether you
are a Republican or a Democrat, having that kind of
dominance in this state is not proving to be healthy
in any way, shape or form.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
So I think that's an important point before we get
any further.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Tell us who is Robin Karnes and why are you
running for the state Center.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Well, Robin Karnes, I'm a mom to two boys we
raise wildlife. First of all, my husband and I. My
husband serves in law enforcement. As you mentioned, I am.
I'm serving currently on Centennial City Council. I've been a
resident in Centennial for over twenty years. I'm in Iowa
farm girl, but we've been here for quite a long time. Obviously,

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have found to love our Colorado state. And I tell
you what, I'm a mom and I'm just kind of
fed up with the partisan politics that are plaguing our
great state and our beloved Colorados. So you want to
know why I'm running, It's because Rome is burning. And
you know, we can sit on the sidelines and complain

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or live in fear, or we can get involved and do.

Speaker 4 (23:35):
Something about it.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
And so I was approached to run, and I said, yes,
why not?

Speaker 4 (23:42):
If not now, when, If not me, then who?

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Right?

Speaker 3 (23:45):
So we are we are running a really solid race.
And the why is because somebody once said, you know,
children are the message we're going to send you a
generation we will not see. And I care deeply about
what message worth sending my sons and the future generations
of Colorado.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Let's talk about that partisanship, because the rank are nationally
and in the state is certainly very profound, and I
think it goes on to both sides quite frankly. You
have obviously, and I was talking in the last half
hour about some things coming from the left, but on
the right, especially under some folks who've been influential in
the Colorado GOP, some players in various circumstances, they have

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been very hardline attack dogs, not just against Democrats but
against Republicans in ways that often go overboard. So from
that vantage point, how do you look at the need
to work together and collaborate with others.

Speaker 4 (24:41):
I'm so glad you brought that up, Tommy.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
In fact, the voters in Colorado, specifically in Centennial, voted
loud and clear. There was a survey that came out
last week in the Centennial Citizen, and the number one
issue that was on that pie chart, it filled almost
half the pie chart, was good governance and democracy.

Speaker 4 (24:59):
And so what is look like. What that looks like
is people are fed.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
Up with the extremes on both sides, and that is
why I'm very intentional. I currently serve on the non
partisan Centennial City Council, which meant when I ran in
twenty twenty one, I could not have an R or
d behind my name, and I just carried the brand.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
I carried the purple brand.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
You take red, which typically represents Republicans, and blue, which
typically represents Democrats, and you bring that together and you
get the color purple, right, and purple, in my opinion,
is a color of champions. It is the color of
people that lean in and listen. They put people before
party affiliation. It's about policy and principles, not just partisan politics.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
And when you look at my.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
District, which is just a microcosm of the entire state,
fifty percent Jimmy five zero, fifty percent are unaffiliates or
every tenants. It's crazy. And I think again, it's because
they're fed up. They're fed up with the crazy. There's
crazy on both sides. And let's just I'm going to
call out the elephant in the room. The Republican Party

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has gone off the rails right now.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
I liken it to a divorce. There's a divorce happening.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
And the sad part is it's the candidates right now
that are the children.

Speaker 4 (26:19):
Because they want us to choose.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
There's this bullseye in front of us that we bosey
is we've got to win. We need to win, and
yet we're really distracted with this other thing that you
alluded to before.

Speaker 4 (26:32):
Shame on us.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
We are forty six days out before the election, twenty
one days before ballots drop. Let's get it together and
focus on what we need to do.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Robin Carn's our guest running for Senate District sixteen, which,
by the way, what are the boundaries? What's the area
that Senate District sixteen covers?

Speaker 3 (26:50):
Sure, so excuse me a Senate district Saint sixteen is
Centennial and Lyttleton. It is west of Rapahoe County. It
is east Jefferson County. The southern border is going to
be Sea four seventy the north, the eastern border is Quebec.
The northern bots order is going to be you've got
a bit of orchard. It dips a little bit up

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into Bomar and then it swings around Ken Carroll Valley.
So right when you're driving SeaForce seventy head of the
mountains and it kind of turns and goes north, that's
about where it ends.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
It's always fascinating to hear legislative districts House or Senate
described because like, well.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
This area, this area, a little piece of this a little.

Speaker 5 (27:29):
Bit of that.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
But can I just tell you one more thing that
makes it you know, part of the reason I said
yes to running and because it's it's because in twenty twenty,
this area, this district was redistricted, which means that the
current incmment didn't really win that entire section over in
the last election. And so in that redistricting process, a
Senate district sixteen gained sixteen precincts that are all heavily conservative,

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which makes again it winnable. It's a twenty six percent
Republican and twenty four percent Democrat on top of the
fifty percent that's unaffiliated. So like the rest of the state,
it's like, we've got to win the middle right, they
have to make sure we're appealing to the majority of voters.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
So, Robin Carnes, how are you doing that?

Speaker 2 (28:15):
What are some indicators that this is happening in your
particular race, which is one that again it's a blue
district right now, it has the chance to flip red.
It's a winnable race for Republicans in your case, for you, So,
what are some indicators that you are gathering support that
is maybe breaking some barriers?

Speaker 3 (28:33):
Yeah, No, that's a really good question. I was so
pleasantly surprised. A couple of weeks ago I had a
chance to speak to a group of early educators and educators.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
Let's just say I am not endorsed.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
By the Teachers' Union, Okay, but I still my background
is a good thing. Yeah, it's a good thing, I know.
But my background is music education. I have an undergrad
of music education of Masters in Youth and Family Studies.
So education is something that I deeply care about and
I absolutely can articulate and converse on and so in
this group of educators, I talked about again the blue

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and the red coming together and creating purple leading it
not just in talk, but also visually. All my yard
signs you'll see across the district, they're purple, right, And
that's because of picture's worth a thousand words. So we
have to be able to appeal to those learning styles
and those communication styles.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
In this group of.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
Educators, I talked about purple being the color of champions,
and I want to be a champion for Coloradons and
specifically for early educators. And when I announced that, the
entire room applause. They applauded they erupted an applause because
they had never heard that before. We're so used to
dividing and saying you're either this or that. Well, how

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about coming to center and camping where where the majority
are right, Like, let's quit, you know, living in some
unrealistic land and let's focus on reality.

Speaker 4 (29:55):
And so that was my first indicator.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
But when I go door to door and I talk
about bringing balance, you know, and why when we don't
have balance, it's so detrimental. Whether we're balancing a budget,
where we're riding a bike, we need balance, whether we're
balancing you know, cars on a tire, shoot, even how
we eat within our diet. If we don't have balance,
other things go wrong, just like what's happening under the

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Golden Dome. And we need to very quickly get back
into balance. And here's why it matters so much to me,
because most people know, and if not, I'll just share that.
Right now, the current State Senate is one seat away
from becoming a super minority. So there's thirty five State
Senators and now the thirty five we need to keep

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a third. And what Senator Lendinois says is if we
keep that third, so we have to keep twelve seats.
Then at least, although Republicans will be in the minority,
they won't get their way, but they get a say,
and that's what's so important. And so we're one seat
away from losing that and becoming a super minority.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
Here's what happens.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
You looked at the antics of what took place this
past legislative session, especially in the House, which is already
in a super minority, and we hope to win that
back as well this fall. But when you become a
super minority, you lose your say. And then also the governor,
for instance, whether you love him or loathe him, he
can't even veto anything. Right, So let's think about the

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policies that have been voted in, like say, last legislative session,
we have not even begun to see take place, and
it's going to be a rude awakening for Colorado's would
that do.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
There's something interesting that I understand from your race. Andrew Yang,
who would run for Democratic nomination for president in twenty twenty,
and some others had formed something that was called.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
The Forward Party.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Yes, you understand right that they have endorsed or supporting
your campaign.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
Yes, yes, we were thrilled. And here's what happened. I
was they reached out to me a couple months ago
and I learned about the Forward Party and I hadn't
heard about them before. But basically Forward represents all the
independents right, and they actually are the largest independent organized
party with pretty darn good infrastructure in place, and they

(32:12):
are paving the way to see other independents get elected,
or say Republicans or Democrats that may be more moderates,
more in the middle. And so they approached me and
we interviewed, and we had to go through you know,
what does that really represent everything? I should say the
vast majority of what they represent I really could resonate with.

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In fact, I had the chance of going to a
dinner with a number of their leaders on Wednesday night
and they said, Robin, we watched your videos and when
we watched each of them, it was like she's already Forward, right,
So there was this wonderful alignment. So yes, just to say,
they have come out just last night and they endorsed
me at both the state level and the national level.

(32:53):
And I do want to make mention, prior to Andrew
Yang being their spokesperson, our FK their spokesperson. So Rfke
Junior exactly interesting. Yep, really interesting.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
So I only have a couple of minutes left.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Our conversation is really and I think importantly tailored around
why collaboration, why cross partisanship is important at the very
least bringing balance to the legislature.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
Briefly, what are a.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Couple of top issues that you're hearing from your constituents
in the city council because you are on the Centennial
City Council, but those who are voters in Senate District
sixteen as you go door to door.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Yeah, that's a really good one. And I'm going to
be careful not to just talk about the typical top
Republican issues, but as I'm going door to door, it
really has matched that the graph and the research that
came out in the Centennial Citizen just a week ago,
and it first was good governance. People are just so
fed up with the extreme. They want people who really

(33:51):
understand who they're working for, and that is the people.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
They want people to get things done right.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
The other major issue that I think is truly by
partisan is our housing. Right now. We have a real shortage.
It's not just affordable housing, we simply don't have enough.
It's supply and inventory. Why, because we are not allowing
builders to build, they can't get insured in order to
create and to balance the growth In Denver when one

(34:18):
of the hottest cities around, we're going to keep on growing.
We've got that wonderful climate or high desert, We've got
to make sure we have places for people to live.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
So housing is a major one.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
People are still concerned about crime, right, I would say
even before that, though, is the high cost of living
in affordability.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
I mean, when I go to the grocery store.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
I'm astounded and I still I'm getting my own groceries, right,
I have to get my kids. We just went school
shopping for all their cleats and you know what they
need for sports. And I was blown away at what
everything is costing. Right, And as actually it's connected when
you look at the high rise of crime. That's why
insurance has gone up, right, That's why everything else is

(34:59):
so expreted, because we've got to be able to protect
ourselves against you know, all those unknowns, and so we
cannot we cannot be balancing our budgets on the backs
of families and those that are most vulnerable. We've got
to change our policies to help alleviate some of the pressures.

Speaker 4 (35:20):
I mean, why is it, Jimmy.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
Why is it that sixty one percent of people in
Colorado have thought about leaving because it's so expensive.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Yeah, that's one of the big ends, the rise.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
And crime, and that's image. That's exactly that's.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
A massive concern. Unfortunately, we are out of time.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Robbing Krns joining us here in studio running for Senate
District sixteen very quickly, just a final word, like twenty seconds.
And your website where can folks go to learn more
about you and your campaign?

Speaker 4 (35:43):
Sounds good.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
I would just say, especially at all those independents that
are wondering who we vote for, the fact that you're
an independent means that you don't want to go one
way or another. And if you truly want to see
Balanced back into the Golden Dome, we have to put
new butts in seats. It's as simple as that. So
vote for carn Robin Carnes, get Balance drop in twenty
one days, get your votes in early, then we won't

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harass you. But I'd love to get your support, really
would love to also get your financial support.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
Go to Robin Cards.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
Excuse me Carnes for Colorado c A R N E
s FO R Colorado dot com.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
Let's bring some balance back to Colorado again.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Thanks Jimmy, Robin Carnes, thank you so much again, current
member of the Centennial City Council running for Senate District sixteen.
We got to take a break. Two more hours up ahead.
I'm Jimmy Sangenberger in for Roskominsky on KOA. One more
day here on KOA. By the way, you can participate
join the conversation on the KOA Common Spirit Health text line.

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At five six six nine zero, there was news I'm
checking here from our partners at Fox thirty one Inner
Mountain Health Lutheran Hospital and wheat Ridge has been on.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
Secured status Friday morning.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
X thirty one had received multiple tips about an incident
and enclosure of the hospital. At around eight thirty am,
the wheat Ridge Police Department said a witness reached out
to officers about a person with a holstered weapon. Officers
went to the hospital to search and speak with the person,
and because of the police presence, the hospital was placed

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on secured status. This is not an active shooter situation.
Wheatridge Police confirmed, and later Fox thirty one got this
statement from the hospital. Earlier this morning, we received a
report that a man with a holstered weapon was seen
inside Lutheran Hospital. We responded according to our protocols and

(37:41):
asked people in the hospital to shelter in place. Access
to the hospital is currently restricted. Our emergency department is
open for emergencies. Though this is not an active threat.
Wheatridge police are going to sweep the building. That's what
they had said earlier in a statement. No shots had
been fired and no one had been injured, police said,

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and it was a developing story. That's the latest that
I can see, about half an hour ago.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
So I'm not sure if that status has changed or not.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
But note that it was not and not thank god,
become was not an active shooter situation, but a little
bit of a scare at the Lutheran Hospital in wheat Ridge. Now,
when you see crimes happen, they're all over the news,
there comes a time where somebody, a criminal gets his due.

(38:35):
Justice is finally done. According to the Denver Gazette, a
Larimer County District judge on Thursday sentence de mand to
twenty four years in prison for his involvement in a
series of burglaries and stolen vehicles in Colorado from twenty

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twenty to twenty twenty three. According to a Adams and
Broomfield County District Attorney news release, prosecutors said the twenty
four year prison sentence handed down by the court is
one of the longest the Attorney General's Office has secured
in an organized motor vehicle theft case. Authorities connected Renee

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Ruiz twenty four to three major vehicle theft and burglary
cases filed in state courts in twenty twenty three. Court
record show Ruiz committing theft and sale of vehicles from citizens,
commercial dealerships, automotive repair shops, and burglaries from several businesses

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and ATMs, according to attorneys. In its findings, authorities say
Ruiz was a high level member of auto theft and
burglary crime rings in Metro Denver. Ruiz, with accomplices was
said to have committed these crimes along the front Range
Denver and Denver Internet National Airport.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
And this is astonishing, but it is.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Not surprising to me, as somebody learned a heck of
a lot during three auto thefts that I experienced from
twenty twenty through twenty twenty two. The Gazette reporting across
the three cases, the criminal organization has stolen at least
three hundred sixty five motor vehicles with scores of catalytic

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converters and firearms.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
The aggregate value of vehicles.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Involved exceeds eight point three million dollars. The aggregate value
of stolen catalytic converters are estimated between fifty three thousand
to seventy eight thousand dollars. Attorney's office official set, Okay,
a couple things. One, as I had learned, and you

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might have heard me talk about this yesterday or previously
that yes, in fact, I am a three time model
theft victim in twenty twenty from my complex in Aurora.
My car was stolen in that summer. Then it was
recovered weeks later, I don't know, like eight weeks later.
And a week after that they were about to total
my car.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
And at the it was at the autobody.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
Shop, and it was stolen at like two am, bursting
through the gates like something had of breaking bad or
a movie. And earlier that day a couple of guys
showed up at the lot and they were looking around
at my car in another car, and they were approached
by the owner of the shop, who got out and said, hey,

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you guys aren't supposed to be here, and one of
them showed a gun at the owner, and so the
owner went inside, obviously and called the police. And then
later that night two am, sure enough, my car bursting
through and by the way, there was meth stuffed in
the vents of the car, so it appeared that they
wanted to recover any myth that might have still been

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in there.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
And then weekly the car was recovered and totally not viable.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
And then in twenty twenty two, I was at an
event also in Aurora election night and my car was
stolen from the Stampede and it was a different car,
and I was in disbelief, literally inside for forty minutes

(42:27):
before the car had been we realized the car was stolen,
and I was walking around.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Just like in disbelief that it could happen again.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
And my girlfriend was with me and she was like,
it's not here, Your car is not here. What they
had done was they pulled up into the lot, the
parking lot of the Stampede, behind my car, guy gets out,
uses this keyfob repeater to piggyback off my signal to
basically clone my car signal a keyfob signal from inside

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the building, unlock my car, get in.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Jerry rig and use.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
The jerry rig the ignition, punch it and use my
USB cable to jump to get the car going. And
within three minutes they were in and out in the
lot and out the lot with my car. Absolutely extraordinary,
So I am very much in celebratory mood. I have

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no idea if this ring had anything to do with
the first staff. The second theft sounds like it was
something very different situation. But this is something that is
hard to get convictions on auto thefts, particularly because it's
harder to track them down. It is though the case

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this law enforcement told me. It is the case that
a lot of times these are crime rings repeat over
and over and over again. The same pieceeople will steeral
cars and that's exactly.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
What was done in this case.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
Three hundred and sixty five motor vehicles for this crime
ring in Renee Ruiz twenty four. Part of that encouraging
great to see a conviction like that. By the way,
just so you know, Both of my cars were models
of Hyundai Tucsons that did not have it.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
Turned out the.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Oh goodness, what was it called engine immobilizer, And that's
the problem. If you have a Hyundai or a Kia
that is not a push button start, you want to
make sure that you have an engine immobilizer because otherwise
they can activate your car in a way that other
cars aren't as susceptible. That's why you often hear that

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Hyundais and Kias are the most frequently stolen cars because
they didn't have these engine immobilizers, and that could be
the ruin of your vehicle and puts you in a
very difficult position. So many families, if you have one
car relying on it to get to work, it's a
very very serious issue when your car is stolen, because

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you have nothing else to do. What can you do,
especially if it's a lower dollar car. In terms of
the value, there was a state law, thankfully changed a
year or two ago, that said the value of the crime,
the weight of the crime, and the punishment is going
to depend in part on the value of your car.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
So if you were somebody who has a thousand.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
Dollar car, older model, you're not very well off financially
and your car is stolen.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
What the heck are you supposed to do? It was
ridiculous law.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
Thankfully they changed it, and thankfully man sentenced to twenty
four years for a string of auto thefts and burglaries
is the kind.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
Of justice we need to see done. I'm Jimmy Sangenberger
covering for ros Kaminski.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
Keep it right here. Lots more coming up on KOA.
Filling in one more time for Roskaminski. I do believe
he is back on Monday. Text coming in on the
KOA Common Spirit Health text line five six six nine
zero text in enjoying the conversation.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
Jimmy, a friend of ours.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Went to water World this summer and someone stole his car,
found his registration in the car, knew they weren't at home,
and went and broke into his house. That's what we
call a classic crime of opportunity because that thief saw

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the opportunity to go to their house and do a
burglary there.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
So that's a combination auto theft, home.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
Burglary, and gosh, I could just feel for your friend.
I'd be curious more about that. It was the car
eventually recovered. What was the circumstance of the car recovery. See,
here's the thing, as I learned from my ever time
auto theft experience, is and that is that oftentimes auto

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thefts are done for the commission of other crimes. Could
be thefts, could be drug use, could be any range
of different things.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
And that just underscores that really it's not just about
the car.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
It's about other things they can do with the car
and then not be tracked down. And it's just something
important to keep in mind that this is if your
car is stolen, it might not just be so they
can do a joy ride. It might not just be
so that they can do something with it themselves. It

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may also end up in the hands of a crime
ring that wants to use it to commit other crimes,
or maybe sell it to an illegal immigrant who will
be driving a car without a license plate, so on
and so forth.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
Any number of things can happen.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
So we all know about the pager message we've been
talking about it this week that was sent to buy
Israel to Hesbelah, which was astonishing.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
Thousands of explosions of.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Pagers as well as walkie talkie's going off in Lebanon
in Syria, he the ambassador from Iran to Lebanon had
one of those pages explode, which shows the closeness of
Hesbelah and Israel. Really or excuse me, Iran goodness, Hesbelah
and Iran in pursuit of destroying Israel, Hesbelah being a

(48:41):
proxy of Iran, just like Hamas is a proxy of Iran.
Still astounded at the pagers coming back. Who would have
thought pagers would not only be in the news headlines,
let alone used by somebody other than maybe a doctor,
but be the source of something that you wouldn't even

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believe if it happened on TV or in a movie.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
Really, that's gonna happen? Well, yes it did in real life.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Well the latest news now this from CNN. Israel claims
it killed senior Hezbolah commander in Beirut strike.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
That's big more.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
News coming out about Israel's success in targeting Hezbollah and
they already have a big breakdown in morale. When that
happens to terrorists, well that's good news. Good news like
auto thefts, auto thiefs being arrested and put away. I'm

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Jimmy Saningberger filling in for ros Kaminski. We've got some
fun coming up on the other side and later on
in the program too. Lots to be around for keep
it right here on KOA. Tommy Castro has become a
good friend of mine over the past.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
Gosh, I don't know, seven years.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
He's a phenomenal entertainer, multi time Blues Entertainer of the
Year for the bb King Blues Awards, and a prominent
fixture in Colorado as an act that comes in with
his Tommy Castro and the Painkillers. He was here just
a couple months back, what I guess, end of June

(50:19):
for the Blues from the Top festival, and I caught
up with Tommy when I was filling in for Mandy
Connell right here on KOA, and we had a great conversation.
And he's coming back for a blues music festival that's
happening down in Colorado Springs next Sunday, September twenty eighth,

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and I like, you know what, it's Friday.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
Let's talk a little bit about this.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
We will get to the producer of the festival, Amy Whitesell,
in just a moment, but here's a fun snippet of
a few minutes with Tommy Castro from June, where it
begins with him talking about this particular song that you
just heard called Nasty Habits. I love when you hear
a musician explain the story behind the song that they wrote.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
Tell me you said that was one of the first
songs you ever wrote.

Speaker 6 (51:12):
Yeah, you know, I was.

Speaker 4 (51:14):
I was partying a lot back then.

Speaker 6 (51:17):
I just started with starting my band up in North Beach, uh,
around the San Francisco Bay area, and I was, uh, oh,
I was a whole lot younger than I was, probably
in my thirties, and uh, yeah, it was just such
a great it was such a great time to be
there in the city. There were three blues bars on

(51:37):
one block, and that's what we used to get ourselves
up off the ground.

Speaker 7 (51:41):
You know.

Speaker 6 (51:41):
We we we worked out our original songs, We played
in the clubs every night, we passed the tip jar.
We did whatever we had to do to get this
band up and running. And uh, we had a lot
of fun there. But you know, you know, it was
it was it was easy to get wrapped up in
the bar scene and uh, you know, I was drinking
and partying every night and a lot of them and

(52:03):
a lot of days I'd wake up going, man, this,
I this gotta stop. You know, I got to roll
this back somehow, and well, eventually I wound up quitting
all those things altogether spent over twenty years. Now, wow,
good for you, drink. But so that was early on,
and that song was inspired by real life events.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
As music songs often are. And you are indeed a
prolific songwriter, by the way, coming in on the KOA
Common Spirit Health Hotline at five six six nine zero
listener texting. And I saw him Tommy at the Greeley
Blues Festival years ago.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
He was awesome. Yes, he is indeed awesome. Tommy.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
Can we do something unusual for a moment that I
think would be fun?

Speaker 1 (52:48):
I've got my case of.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Fourteen harmonicas here, and I know that riff because my
blues band, Jimmy Junior Blues Band plays Cuci Cuccie band.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
Can you can you, like on the phone, do vocals
for the first verse of Ucci Cucci Man while I
play the riff on the harp. Let's do this? Yes,
why not?

Speaker 6 (53:08):
I'm a.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
Muddy Waters the great Legend.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
We've just got a couple of minutes left with our guest,
Tommy Castro Let's do it here you ready.

Speaker 6 (53:18):
A woman told my mother.

Speaker 8 (53:22):
Before I was born, got a boy chowl coming, won't
be a gun, jump and shout.

Speaker 6 (53:40):
We're gonna know.

Speaker 9 (53:44):
What's this all about?

Speaker 10 (53:47):
Here?

Speaker 1 (53:51):
Read it by the mold.

Speaker 11 (53:52):
I'm here all around.

Speaker 6 (54:13):
Jim Walter, it would be proud.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Thank you, brother. You gotta absolutely love it.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
So when folks see Tommy castro play, what can they
expect from Michelle.

Speaker 6 (54:23):
Oh Man, Well, we got thirty years worth of material
to try to squeeze in. There's a couple of songs
from the most recent album of Blues Man Came to Town.
If you're going to play something that that song that
Jimmy Hall and I did together, the first track on
that album.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
Somewhere Somewhere, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (54:43):
Yeah, yeah, go ahead and learn that. Will you go ahead?
You play that with us?

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Hey, I love it. I will. I will absolutely do that.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
You'd have a different Jimmy in there, but that sounds
like a great plan for me.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
I'd love to be up there with you. I will
do that.

Speaker 6 (54:57):
It is an important a harp is an important part
of that at that riff, and so we don't play
it a lot, yeah, but we will play it.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
If you're going to be they, I will.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
That was back in June when Tommy Castro joined me
right here on KOA ahead of the Blues from the
Top festival. Unfortunately, he ended up not having as much
time as he'd hope to play, so I didn't get
to sit in with him then. But Tommy Castro will
be headlining a festival coming up called Blues on the
Mesa down in Colorado Springs next Sunday, September twenty eighth.

(55:30):
He did tell me, if you come on down, bring
your harps, which always just I've sat in with Tommy
and Tommy Castro and the Painkillers several times and it's
just so much fun to watch and so much fun
to play some tunes with. Well, I've thought, you know what,
let's talk for a few minutes with the founder producer

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of Blues on the Mesa. She is the CEO of
A Music Company, Inc. Which produces Blues on the Mesa.
Amy Whitesell, joins me now right here on KOA.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
Good morning, Amy, Good morning, and hi Jimmy.

Speaker 6 (56:07):
You today.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
I am doing well, Thank you so much. So, first
of all, just tell me about the genesis of this festival.
I think if I understand it, right. It was just
a few years ago that you got it going. What started?
What brought it about?

Speaker 12 (56:22):
Well, i'll do that for first, I need to correct
a mistake. The festival is next Saturday.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
It's not excuse me, thank you, thank you. I apparently
I get my days mixed up. It's it's you know,
it's how it goes. I appreciate the correction.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
Thank you. Yeah.

Speaker 12 (56:39):
Well, I wouldn't want people to arrive on Sunday and
find that the festival.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
I would want them either.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
Hey, at least I got the twenty eighth correct, that's good.

Speaker 12 (56:47):
Yeah, all right, Well, okay.

Speaker 13 (56:50):
The festival started basically because I was bored and we
were in a pandemic. We used to have a festival
here in color To or Spring that I was a
part of, called Blues under the Bridge, and that went.

Speaker 12 (57:04):
Away before the pandemic. So it was time to have
another blues festival here in Colorada Springs.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (57:13):
Okay, I'm sorry, No, I'm sorry. Go ahead.

Speaker 12 (57:16):
This is the fourth year of the festival. We have
five Bucks. As you've already said, Tommy Cashier is headlining.
We have then Divina and the Bag of Bonds, We
have ef In, the Blues, Express, Rex People's, an X Factor,

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and the Johnny O Band. It is a daytime festival.
It gates open at eleven music ends at six point thirty.
Very family friendly. We encourage you to bring the children
because they're free with an adult ticket anyone sixteen and unders.
We're also doing a military and student discount only at

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the door. That will be half place tickets, so we're
encouraging everyone to come. Do bring a chair or a
blanket to sit on.

Speaker 11 (58:09):
This is on.

Speaker 12 (58:11):
It almost looks like a natural amphitheater out in the
beautiful park overlooking the mountains. It's just a beautiful setting.
You'll be sitting in a rut lawn and we have
food trucks to take care of any kind of allergies.
Whether you're vegan, vegetarian, keto, daring free, gluten free, there

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will be food for you. We make a point of
doing this because no food or beverages are allowed into
the festival. We have three distilleries, three breweries, We have wines,
and we'll have other adult beverages and non alcoholic beverages
there as well. If you twos that you want to

(58:56):
keep going from six thirty to eight thirty we do
a vaa party. It's inside because it could get a
little cooler, and we'll have again in there. There's four restaurants,
the lots of adult beverages, very nice brewery's, distilleries, wine, desserts,
and I mingle with the artist. Also, Shack will be

(59:20):
playing during that time. And here's an amazing piano player.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
Who sings beautiful. Oh I love it.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
And you know what I think is wonderful about this
as it sounds. You know, you've got some big scope
with some great bands, of course Tommy Castro headlining, but
it sounds down home. It sounds like something where it's
it's people getting together for a good time of who
enjoy this kind of music of the blues and have
have some things in common that they can share with

(59:49):
each other.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
Let me ask you one other question.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
Amy white Cell again joining us, produces Blues on the
mesa down in Colorado Springs next Saturday, the twenty eight.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
What is it about the blues that you love so
much as.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
To want to put together this festival now for the
fourth time.

Speaker 12 (01:00:08):
Well, I guess I have to say. When I got
together with my husband, he was playing blues and they
knew at the time, but I was enjoying it.

Speaker 13 (01:00:22):
So that's how it started.

Speaker 12 (01:00:23):
Had he been playing country, this might be a country
festival we'd be looking at.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
I just love music in general.

Speaker 12 (01:00:29):
Yeah, so all the genres are great, but when you
only have five acts that you can do, it.

Speaker 13 (01:00:35):
Makes it difficult to pick who.

Speaker 12 (01:00:37):
Those five acts will be. We certainly didn't really didn't
want anyone local, and that's not because they're not good. Please.
We have tons of wonderful blues acts here in Colorada Springs,
but when you can see them many times, it takes
the fun.

Speaker 4 (01:00:54):
Out of it at a festival.

Speaker 12 (01:00:56):
So we're bringing an AX that you won't be seeing
every day playing here because they don't list here.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
Well, and having Tommy Castro headline, I mean, he is
just the consummate entertainer, always puts on phenomenal shows, and
not to mention his guitar playing and his vocals are
absolutely tremendous. So this is coming up again next Saturday,
the twenty eighth, down in Colorado Springs.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
The website Blues on the Mesa dot Org.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Blues on the Mesa dot Org very cool and I'll
try and make it down there and you know, have
some fun with Tommy too. But Amy Whitezell, CEO of
A Music Company, Inc. And producer of Blues on the MESA,
thanks so much for taking a few minutes to join
us this morning and see you next Saturday.

Speaker 13 (01:01:40):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 12 (01:01:41):
We appreciate you doing this for us.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
Than absolutely glad to do it, and glad you are
bringing a blues festival back have been bringing a blues
festival back down to Colorado Springs. Just so much fun.
And I just have to say something else about Tommy Castro.
Just a great guy, one of the salt, you know,
of entertainers. Sometimes there can be this attitude, you know,
oh my gosh, I'm this hotshot entertainer and I'm such

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a great person, and their ego gets in the way.
Not with Tommy Castro, always just down to earth, that
kind of good guy, make no mistake about it. I
love music, obviously, It's just a passion of mine. I
think it's something that brings people together very profoundly, very.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
Emotionally, so many ways. All right, we have.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
Some texts coming in on the KOA Common Spirit Health hotline.
It's five six six nine zero. Let's get to them. Jimmy,
my cousin was mugged and they stole her car, but
she somehow managed to recover it. Instead of using her garage,
she parked it on the street a few days later,

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where the same people stole it again, told her she
needed rekey it. This time they totaled it. She tracked
it and got the police involved. They caught the suspects
at the scene of the wreck, and she got to
watch the police give them a ticket and then let
them walk.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
Man, that sucks. Oh just a ticket, there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
I'd be curious when that happened, because that was something
they were just doing during COVID times in particular twenty
twenty twenty twenty one.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
Oh we give you a ticket, you can go. That's
all they could do.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
Police were frustrated as heck about it that they couldn't
really do their jobs. By the way, something else that
a couple of listeners pointed out. And I meant to
make this point as well, because I started doing this,
especially after my car theft her to make sure that
I did this. Because there was a listener who said

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that a friend of theirs went to Waterworld this summer,
someone stole their car, found the registration in the car,
knew they weren't home broken into their house. Two listeners
texting in something very there's a portion of your registration
that does not have an address on it, and that's
the part you're supposed to keep in your car. Another
listener saying the same thing about two copies of your registration,

(01:04:12):
one with the address, one that isn't, so put the one,
this is very important advice keep and it specifically does
tell you this, keep the one that does not have
your address in the glove compartment of your car, as
opposed to the one that has your address, so that
way they can't track you down. A couple other listener questions,

(01:04:35):
this is a fun one. Jimmy, do you also sell houses?

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
I do not, but my dad Jim saying Berger does.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
He is in fact a realtor.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
So if you happen to see a Jim singing and
Burger have signs around town from Keller Williams, DTC, that's
my father, not me.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
Jimmy.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
I was asked we've played at Dakota Tavern my band
Jimmy Junior Blues Band before. Well, Hey Kevin texting and
asking if we will be back to perform there.

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
I think we probably will.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
We're just starting to get feelers out there and reach
out to folks to get back to gigging after getting
our new guitarist, phenomenal guy named Eric, and we're looking
forward to playing some music. And you will know here
on KOA when we have Jimmy Junior Blues Band getting
some gigs going, be sure to let you know, because

(01:05:26):
absolutely absolutely fun, fun, fun, and I'm itchin. I'm itchin
to get out there and do some playing with the band.
We've got phenomenal musicians Mike Mike Rossi on the drums,
Ken Cornell on the bass, Eric Fatucci on Guitariers Truly

(01:05:47):
on the harmonica, and everybody but the drummer.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
For some reason, the drummer doesn't want to do any vocals.
I don't know. I don't know why that is.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
Why won't the drummer do some vocals in the songs,
But everybody else.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
We do some singing. I sick slash vocals because I select.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
When you're a musician and you're not like a vocalist,
you're not a singer. You pick the songs that work
well for your voice. And that's what I do when
it comes to the blues tunes that we select. Now,
unrelated to that, hezbola Pager's exploding brilliant. But what if

(01:06:26):
the chicoms decide to put the same explosive devices into
the iPhones they're making for Apple? Oh that is Jim
and Fort Myers. By the way, I appreciate it. Name
in town, name in town. If you wish to text
in it certainly welcome, so we know who you are
when you text in and where you are located. Yeah,

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I mean, I don't think that's a concern.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
And here's why.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
Because Apple is manufacturing and is those are private American companies,
and they actually have a lot of production elsewhere I think,
including in India and other places. Maybe that could happen,
but I think the likelihood is very small, particularly because
infintesimately small, probably because you have the economic issues there

(01:07:09):
that this would tank them economically. If something like that
were to happen, you actually kill your customers. This isn't
an incident of killing customers. This is an incident of
striking back at terrorists.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
And they were intercepted.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
The products were the way the pagers and the walkie
talkies were supposedly intercepted in Budapest.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
When traveling via Taiwan. So I don't know. I understand
what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
There's always a risk for things, but I don't see
that as being something that would be done. It's possible, though,
anything is possible. I'm Jimmy Sangenberger filling in for Roskaminski.
We got another hour up ahead, including when it comes
to music, some country music at the bottom of the
next as two phenomenal young up and coming musicians, Joe

(01:08:05):
Wren and Natasha Linn will join me live in studio.
We're gonna chat a bit and jam some tunes. It's
gonna be a lot of fun. In the third and
final hour of the program, once again, Jimmy Sangenberger in
for Rosskominski. Here on KOA final hour. Jimmy Sangenberger here
with you in for Ross Kaminski. Mandy Connell coming up

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at noon. And by the way, if you want to
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Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
Good morning, brother, How you doing well, buddy yourself?

Speaker 8 (01:09:08):
Good?

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
Good working for the weekend? Ready for the weekend. I
bet you are as well. It's flying by so far.
I know almost said this week is a blur, and
I can't believe my three day stint here and for
Ross is coming to a close. But hey, it's been
a blast. You and a Rod and Shannon you're all
just phenomenal to work with. And you can pay me

(01:09:32):
the five bucks later for saying that right here on
the airwaves. But look, it's it's also it's Friday. There's
a lot of things to talk about, a lot going on,
and I'm struck by something that I never thought i'd
read this headline.

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
This is from media Ie.

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
Taylor Swift has lower favorability rating than Trump, according to
New York Times poll.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
Let me read a little bit here.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
Taylor Swift has a lower favorability rating among voters than
former President Donald Trump. According to a New York Times
poll conducted following the singer's endorsement of Vice President Kamala Harris,
just forty four percent of Americans had a favorable opinion

(01:10:23):
of Swift. According to the New York Times poll also
conducted with the Philadelphia Inquirer and Siana College between September
eleventh and September sixteenth, thirty four percent of Americans have
an unfavorable opinion of Swift, while twenty two percent do
not know how to feel about the popular musician. Unsurprisingly,

(01:10:45):
Democrats had the highest opinion of Swift at seventy percent,
followed by Independence forty one, Republicans twenty three.

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
According to that same poll, Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
Has a higher favorability rating among American voters than Swift,
with forty seven percent of Americans having a favorable opinion
of him. Well, forty eight percent of Americans have a
favorable opinion of Harris. So both Trump and Harris are
held in greater esteem in terms of favorability than arguably

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the single most popular, most influential musician alive today. That's
not me saying that as a Taylor Swift fan. I'm
impressed by what she's able to do musically. Sure, she's
very creative in her styles and so forth. She has
built an empire. But I'm not personally a tailor Swift fan,

(01:11:36):
and wouldn't say that I would be among those who
hold her favorable per se.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
You give me a list of ten songs of hers,
I could maybe recognize one or two.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
Every one of them pretty much is about making a
poor decision, right, and that seems to be she might
as well after November. You know, it's entirely possible that
she'll want to write a song like.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
That af day. If Trump wins, that will be a
song from.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
Her about the poor decision of supporting Harris.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
It's neck and neck, though you look at the polls.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
Even this favorability rating Dragon forty eight percent favorable in
the New York Times poll toward Kamala Harris forty seven
percent towards Trump. That's pretty much an even split there.
And if you look at the polls, this really is
a horse race. It can go absolutely either way. But
we can already hear the song if Harris does in

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fact lose, Taylor Swift.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
Singing about the poor decision of back in Harris.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
I don't know, but this was not a headline or
a story that I thought I would read. And by
the way, let's talk about dumb Donald Trump tweeting or
rather posting on truth social in all caps a simple message,
I hate Taylor Swift exclamation point.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
Why would you do that?

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
Talk about wanting to like turn off people who might.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
Be supportive of you?

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
Who are you young who also love Taylor Swift and
are among the forty four percent of Americans who say.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
They're favorable towards her.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
I just I don't understand why he has to say
things like that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
Donald Trump's got a Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
I know, but this one's lunacy, unnecessary start to finish,
and why I don't want a president who's saying he
hates an individual American citizen. I don't want him to
do that. I prefer Trump over Harris far and away.
So don't get me wrong, but I don't want Trump

(01:13:34):
to be doing that. I don't want a president to
be doing that. I also don't want a president who
dodges press conferences. One thing you could say about Trump
is that he was very good at showing up.

Speaker 8 (01:13:49):
And his.

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
Is resilience, if you.

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
Will, in these press conferences in terms of going for
hours sometimes is extraordinary. But here's a little exchange with
CBS News reporter ed O Keith pressing Koree Jean Vierre,
the White House Press Secretary, on Biden being in a
foreign trip and not holding press conferences.

Speaker 14 (01:14:12):
There's going to be there's there's but can you also
appreciate I hear you all, but you also appreciate that
we have created other opportunities.

Speaker 4 (01:14:22):
There is this one.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
That's what you've created. There are a lot of cross
conferences which we would prefer.

Speaker 15 (01:14:29):
And what I was go ahead, I'm gonna suggest is
what baffles people in this room, especially for those who
are watching this, I'm wondering, why on earth do we
harp on each side of this? Is what baffles us
is this is a president who from day one committed
to be the most transparent president possible, who has given
speeches at various events saying that he stands for and

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respects the freedom of the press.

Speaker 11 (01:14:51):
And here is a.

Speaker 15 (01:14:52):
Great opportunity to stand with the leader of the world's
largest democracy, India, and two other key democracies who are
from a of the world that is struggling to maintain democracy.
Why not face questions from reporters and a free press.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
Okay, So which part are you asking me about?

Speaker 14 (01:15:08):
Are you asking me about going.

Speaker 8 (01:15:13):
Okay?

Speaker 15 (01:15:13):
Which I think the start of the negotiations, or at least.

Speaker 13 (01:15:17):
I hear you.

Speaker 14 (01:15:18):
But there are two things that I'm being asked to.
Let me not every not every opportunity that we have
when we do have these foreign foreign leaders here.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
Do we have a press conference? That is not unusual.
We have gone many times.

Speaker 14 (01:15:30):
Back and forth about I totally understand there's been some
bilats and there's been some other visit where there has
not been some press conferences, right, That is not unusual.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
We've had conversation. Excuse me, excuse me, I'm not speaking
to you. I really am not. Let me have my
conversation with Ed. Let me have my conversation with Ed.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
Is there a worse press secretary than Kreeine Jean Pierre?

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
Because I'm unaware of one.

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
I mean that the whole exchange was just making me
want to bang my head against a wall, just wondering
is there going to be a strain answer here? No,
you know that back and forth Ed o'keef's doing a
really good job holding her feet to the fire on there,
and then she's dismissing somebody else who was sort of
being like, you're not answering. I don't know what the
person said, but it was to me sort of like, no,

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this is what O'Keefe is getting at.

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
The rest of us are trying to get out with this.

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
I said, foreign trip Biden oversees, but no, rather, these
foreign leaders were here is what I.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
Meant, as KJP said there.

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
But look, I mean the reality is that when you
have world leaders coming like that, very significant, you should
be out there. And Biden has been hiding in his
basement and he needs to get out there. I don't
care if you're a Democrat or a Republican. When you
are sitting president of the United States, you need to
be making these public appearances. You need to be getting
out there in these sort of circumstances.

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
And he's not doing that. And I think it says
exactly why, exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
Why Kamala Harris is the nominee and not Joe Biden,
because they knew that he had to go.

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
And so here we are.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
And what was astonishing by the way Nancy Pelosi we
played this yesterday saying, oh, we did have an open primary.
She just knew how to handle it to get to
the nomination. An open primary with no votes makes.

Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
A lot of sense. I don't know what world are
we living in.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
Donald Trump tweeting out I hate Taylor Swift, but Trump
has a greater favorability than Taylor Swift according to the
New York Times poll, and Karine Jean Pierre, or White
House Press secretary, can't even answer straight questions about why
Biden isn't doing press conferences. I don't know. I don't
know what's going, but I can tell you we've got

(01:17:44):
some more show coming up. I'm suremy Sangenberger filling in
for Rusky Minsk can keep it right here on KOA.
Jimal Sangenberger in for Rousky Minsky on KOA. Dragon had
to make it relevant. I was just saying, too when
I figured out that you were going to be playing Swift,
that her of favorability rating according to the New York

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Times is forty four percent.

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
Well, Trump's is forty seven percent.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
Trump more favorable than Taylor Swift than if she's hurt
by it, I think she should just shake it off.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
Shake it off. Welcome back. Good to be with you.

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
The KOA Common Spirit health text line five six six
nine zero. Did you catch the town hall meeting with
Trump and Sarah Sanders?

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
That's the governor of Arkansas.

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
He was asked how he would fix high housing costs
and grocery prices. He proceeded to talk nuclear, making a
long word sounid without answering the questions or making any
sense at all. Well, two things on that. No, I
did not, So I don't know the answer that you're
talking about. I will say it is a classic trait
for politicians to answer the question they want to answer

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when asked a question. But I do think when you're
asked about housing costs and grocery prices, that is, first
of all, that's an easy one to knock out of
the park when you are challenging the incumbent administration Widen
Harris administration in this case, and you want to say, look,
grocery price is too high. Here's what I want to
do to try and address it. I mean, it's keyed

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up for you. Why wouldn't you do that? As for
Trump's sort of the way that he goes a lot
of times, Okay, sometimes he does word salad a lot
of times. He's a non linear thinker, so he'll jump
from point to point to point and you'll wonder how
he got from A to Z in sixty seconds.

Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
That's sort of classic Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
I A noise frustrates the heck out of me because
I'd rather have as I am, I'm a linear thinker.

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
I'd rather have that linear.

Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
Thought process on display by the president of the United
States or candidate for office. But word salads, I mean,
that's that sort of par for the course in this race,
especially with Kamala Harris running for president. You know, I
Harris and the left keep lasting Trump over being a

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threat to democracy, and I think that's successive.

Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
I'm sick and tired of it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
I think it certainly contributes to the environment that we've
had with you, with the assassination attempts that have happened
against Trump.

Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
But I don't like this rhetoric from Trump either.

Speaker 16 (01:20:21):
But the messages it's time to stop the lives, stop
the hoaxes, stop the spears, stop the law fair or
the fake lawsuits against me, and stop claiming your opponents
will turn America into a dictatorship.

Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
Give me a break. That's all fair.

Speaker 16 (01:20:39):
Then we get to because the fact is that I'm
not a threat to democracy.

Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
They are, Like, you can't say stop talking about being
a threat to democracy and then say they're the threat
to democracy.

Speaker 1 (01:20:51):
I'm rebber in your glue.

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
Whatever you say bounces off to me and sticks to you.
Well said, I mean, it's look, come on, just drop
that rhetoric about it. Literally at that same Brad, stop
calling me a threat to democracy and you know would
be dictator.

Speaker 1 (01:21:11):
But they're the threat to democracy. Look at the look.

Speaker 2 (01:21:14):
I do think that there's a lot that risks with
the republic. If Kamala Harris is the president of the
United States, but one person doesn't do that doesn't end
the country. Some of this rhetoric is just mind boggling.

Speaker 1 (01:21:31):
But here we are, this is twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2 (01:21:33):
Folks in ballots are about to drop it just a
few weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
I'm Jimmy Sangenberger.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
When we come back live in studio, Joe Ren has
his guitar, he and Natasha Lynn will be singing. We'll
be playing some country music and having a good time.

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
And I got my harmonicas here, so let's have some
fun on the other side.

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
As we continue Jimmy Sangenberger in for Ross Kaminski on
KOA third and final days back on Monday. Great to
be with you today and so great to have the
ouppportunity to do some music live here in the KOA
studio as I am joined by two tremendous up and
coming musicians. Joe Wren was nominated this year at eighteen

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years old as a Newcomer of the Year for the
Colorado Country Music Hall of Fame. And I'm also joined
here in studio, and he's got his guitar by the way,
by Natasha Lynn, who is the I believe twenty twenty
two Amateur Newcomer of the Year for the Colorado Country
Music Hall of Fame. She is nineteen years old. And

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they are tremendous. Very pleased to be joined by them
both here in studio. Welcome to KOA, Thank you, thanks
for having us. Good to have you both here. So
I want to talk before we play a few tunes
and whatnot. I want to ask you both about your
musical influences, what inspired you, how you got into performing.

Speaker 1 (01:22:54):
Just tell us a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
About yourself from the music side of things.

Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
Natasha, let's start with you.

Speaker 17 (01:22:59):
I think a big inspiration of mine was my mama.
My mom pushed me. She knew that I could sing
when I would sing at church, and so she just
pushed me to be the best that I could be,
and she would have me sing at talent shows at
church as much as I could. You know, she got
me tied in with Kathy Edwards in which is who

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got me tied into the Colorado Country.

Speaker 1 (01:23:21):
Music Hall of Fame.

Speaker 17 (01:23:23):
And she just pushed me the most, So I would
say that she's my biggest musical inspiration.

Speaker 7 (01:23:28):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
One thing I should mention is I've known you for
a few years because mutual friend of ours DJ Johnson.
She is phenomenal and fronts and leads the Young Heart
band often plays at Dougie G's and Thornton, which is
just a phenomenal place.

Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
It's so fun.

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
And actually that's where I met Joe at the Colorado
Country Music Hall of Fame festival a few weeks ago,
and so grateful to DJ for bringing us together and
love when we sit in with her together, it is
just a blast.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
Joe, talk to me a little bit about your musical background.

Speaker 18 (01:24:00):
My music background kind of comes from, uh, well, my
mom and my parents. They were all kind of music people,
and I was as a kid, I was always like
in the hospital and everything like that. And uh, while
I was in the hospital, Sheerman's Hospital, I decided to
pick up guitar because you know, at the point I
I kind of took it as like a hobby. I
didn't think I would do anything with it. Picked it up,

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pleaded free tunes. And one of my big music inspiration
is probably like Johnny Johnny Cash. It's probably my inspiration
because he just has a distinctive sound of how he
played and how he sounded. And I started off with
Johnny Cash, and then I.

Speaker 1 (01:24:39):
Went on to more modern things.

Speaker 18 (01:24:41):
But I went to like George Strait, all great country artists,
George Jones, going into more like modern stuff now like
Zach Top I know that he's playing on the radio
more and.

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
Just a lot.

Speaker 18 (01:24:56):
I can't get enough like artists that I've come up
frost and not only on the radio, but also local
here in Colorado that I've met so much. Yeah, like
mostly because of Dougie G's. I met a lot of
artists at Dougie Gee's. That's how I met nat and
Natasha and I met h Eric Golden or Eric Goldband

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Ryan and there's another.

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
Yeah, I just have to say you're eighteen, but you
definitely have the voice that sounds like you are a
country center.

Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
Even when you're talking. I could tell that, and I
love it. I want to ask you.

Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
As well, sort of what what you've done musically, each
of you, and where you're where you're hoping to go
if if it is a musical musical trajectory, sort of
what you have in mind for the future.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
Joe, I have a mind for futures.

Speaker 18 (01:25:47):
Just you know, I plan on continue playing music for
a living, like that's my go to and want to
do thing and tour and everything like that. But my
number one thing while I'm playing is playing for the
people and what they.

Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
Want to hear.

Speaker 18 (01:26:01):
But I also want to do that but kind of
my own style and get into the country genre but
wanting to get my own sound but also tying back
to the old country sound at the same time.

Speaker 1 (01:26:14):
And sure, sure, Natasha, how about you?

Speaker 17 (01:26:19):
So I music got me through a really really hard
time of my life, and I had quit music for
a while and then I got back into it recently
again of really like starting to find my spark for
it again, and I think, like, of course I want to,
you know, become famous, Like who doesn't want to become famous,

(01:26:40):
Who doesn't want to like tour around the world. But
at the end of the day, if that never happens,
I want.

Speaker 1 (01:26:46):
To use music to help other people.

Speaker 17 (01:26:49):
And as a nursing assistant, I get to go into
people's homes and I get to sing for them and
they love it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:54):
Music therapy in part sort of yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:26:57):
I mean like sometimes my clients will just ask me
to sing for them and they're like, it helps me
sleep at night before you leave. And it's one of
the most like rewarding things is to use music to
help other people. Whether you make it big or not,
music really does help people and it is a universal
language that we can all understand and that we can
all grow to love.

Speaker 4 (01:27:18):
And that's really what I want to do.

Speaker 17 (01:27:19):
I want to just share music because I love music
and I want other.

Speaker 1 (01:27:23):
People to love music. Amen.

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
Oh I love it. I couldn't have put it better myself. Well,
let's do that. Let's hear Natasha Linn sing the first
tune that we're gonna do while we have Joe Wren
on the guitar.

Speaker 1 (01:27:35):
This is one of those classic songs.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
Everybody knows it, little tune called House of the riseing
Sun live here on Koa, oh say.

Speaker 7 (01:28:03):
Long.

Speaker 1 (01:28:04):
They callson.

Speaker 7 (01:28:12):
His be.

Speaker 19 (01:28:15):
Way, many a poe boys in God.

Speaker 1 (01:28:21):
I know one one.

Speaker 19 (01:28:27):
My mother, she's.

Speaker 7 (01:28:35):
A man.

Speaker 20 (01:28:38):
Booch, my paone the world against man.

Speaker 11 (01:28:50):
Die in.

Speaker 7 (01:28:53):
War by old thing game names.

Speaker 4 (01:29:04):
It's a suitcase, he said.

Speaker 1 (01:29:08):
The trum time is satisfied.

Speaker 19 (01:29:19):
It's weird.

Speaker 11 (01:29:21):
He's a drum.

Speaker 7 (01:29:54):
Mor children.

Speaker 19 (01:30:01):
That's the two have been seen and Missouri in the
house shut using.

Speaker 20 (01:30:20):
Sun like I want food on the land for the
right on the train, I go back to old lands to.

Speaker 1 (01:30:46):
B shame.

Speaker 19 (01:30:51):
Very a holl saw old lanes.

Speaker 7 (01:30:57):
They ca.

Speaker 19 (01:31:00):
Heasy so.

Speaker 1 (01:31:53):
Phenomenal. Natasha Linn Ladies and Gentlemen.

Speaker 2 (01:31:57):
Twenty twenty two, Amateur Newcomer of the Year for the
Color of Country Music Hall of Faming Studio. Joe Wren
on the guitar and Joe, you mentioned Johnny Cash. Let's
play a little Johnny Cash.

Speaker 1 (01:32:10):
How about it?

Speaker 8 (01:32:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:32:11):
Do I hear the train coming. He's rolling around the
pin I ain't seeing the sunshiners and Son on on with.

(01:32:31):
I'm still getting bulls from prison and I'm getting dragged on.

Speaker 1 (01:32:39):
What I train keeps rolling on down a side. I
untold him.

Speaker 10 (01:32:47):
When I was just a baby, My mama tore me, sir,
always be a good boy. Don't you ever playing with
the guns? But I shine A man in rain home
used to watch him. Mother drank keeps swilling.

Speaker 1 (01:33:06):
I h my head. I am trying to take you.

Speaker 10 (01:33:36):
I biters reporting from a fancy dining car. They probably
drinking coffee and well smoking me cigars.

Speaker 1 (01:33:44):
But I know where to come in. I know why
I can't be freeing those people keep a moving, and
that's what Tors serves me. I'll play together.

Speaker 10 (01:34:24):
What if they framed me from that perason in the
railroad train?

Speaker 1 (01:34:27):
Was my I been im on?

Speaker 10 (01:34:29):
Bet on it? Don't father down the line, b full
from prison.

Speaker 21 (01:34:35):
That's we're on Tuesday, and I let their own summer,
so bow my blues away.

Speaker 2 (01:34:54):
Amazing again, that voice, you can just tell you are
channeling some old squ country music right there. This text
did come in during House of the Rising Sun Natasha Lynn. Wow,
tough notes to hit and great range. Love the singer
and all the instruments blend well.

Speaker 1 (01:35:13):
Awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:35:13):
We do have to give some credit to dragging an
a rod teaming up behind the glass making sure that
the mixes right.

Speaker 1 (01:35:19):
Ah, Dragon's like I'm not doing anything you are. You're
mixing it up a little bit there. We appreciate it.
And Joe Wren is a nominee this year.

Speaker 2 (01:35:28):
Was nominated for the Newcomer of the Year for twenty
twenty four from the Colorado Country Music Hall of Fame.
I want to talk for just a second before we
will play out to a duet, and I'll let you
share what you're going to be singing together here in
just a minute, but real quick, like thirty seconds each.
When it comes to let's just go with country music

(01:35:51):
genre in particular country. What is it that you most
enjoy about country music, performing it, listening to it, whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:35:59):
It is That it's genuine.

Speaker 17 (01:36:02):
I love that it's genuine music and that you can
feel it in your heart and it's like other music
you can do that too.

Speaker 1 (01:36:09):
But I also grew up on this type of music.

Speaker 4 (01:36:12):
Thanks mom.

Speaker 1 (01:36:12):
I know you're listening, but thank you mom.

Speaker 17 (01:36:15):
And so I know that, like I grew up with
it and I loved it so much, and so I
just kind of grew into it as it part of
being a part of my life.

Speaker 1 (01:36:25):
You as well, Joe n.

Speaker 18 (01:36:27):
Country music is always a story to tell. It's another
way of, you know e, suppressing what you have on
the inside. It's a way of I mean, it can
go with every genre you put into music, but country
just have this distinctive sound and taste of just how
to bring out the story that you want.

Speaker 1 (01:36:47):
And it can also go with the instruments as well.
With country.

Speaker 18 (01:36:53):
I always like hearing the fiddle in the steel guitar
in the old country like that, and that's definitely what
like you know, Alan Jackson loves he was trying to
go for that. That's what all of the modern country
artists wanted to do with that, like Zach Top and.

Speaker 1 (01:37:08):
Everybody like that. But it's just a way to express
your feelings out there.

Speaker 2 (01:37:12):
And well, I have to tell you a listener text
coming in that was ten minutes of some of the
best radio I've heard in a long time.

Speaker 1 (01:37:21):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:37:22):
And so you are definitely doing phenomenally well here on KOWA.
As we continue once again, Jimmy Sangenberger in for Ross Kaminski.
I'm not sure how long the duet will go and
one will sort of run up against her end or
what have you, but I think we probably will just
go straight out with the song, and so that means

(01:37:43):
that will be it for me today.

Speaker 1 (01:37:45):
Where could folks follow you?

Speaker 2 (01:37:46):
Guys?

Speaker 17 (01:37:47):
I have Facebook and Instagram. My Facebook is Natasha Lynn
and my Instagram is Natasha john Zrude. And I also
have TikTok and is Natasha john Zrude as well.

Speaker 18 (01:37:58):
Oh, I got Instagram, Facebook in a Spotify, it's just
under Joe Wren if you look up for Instagram, I
have two personal Joe Ran thirteen and then for my
official one is Joe Ran Official where you can find
like beyond the scenes of stuff. My Spotify is is
Joe Wren. Just released an e P today, so it's
called Joe Ran Live at the Alley. So you can

(01:38:19):
go listen to that right now, beautiful? Yeah, all right,
thank you both. So what song are you going to
be doing for the duet here? Well, I guess trio
because I'm in the mixed doo. Yeah, what's the song?

Speaker 17 (01:38:28):
It's called I Remember Everything by Zach Bryan and Kathy Musk.

Speaker 2 (01:38:32):
Grazy all right with Natasha Lynn and Joe Wren and
Jimmy sangen Berger here with you have a great weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:38:37):
May God bless America. We're all good.

Speaker 10 (01:38:59):
Wish is you want to use my mind? Beach town
is on the drying line. Do I remind you of
your daddy who is eighty eight four.

Speaker 12 (01:39:13):
Labbered?

Speaker 10 (01:39:14):
Or hand out the passenger door, saying from your hairs,
bowing in my eyes, blaming on the beach, growing men
don't cry? Do you remember that beat down basement and

(01:39:35):
couch singing my love songs? And you tell me you
bout them hire Mama, red off and pond hurry? I remember,
I remember everything. The coach sholder room closing time. You

(01:39:56):
were begging me to stay till the sun.

Speaker 5 (01:39:58):
Ruse says, come on out of the grown man's mouth
when his mind's roll.

Speaker 19 (01:40:06):
This is some passing time.

Speaker 1 (01:40:08):
You always smile like that when you're drinking. I wish
I didn't that. I do remember every moment on the nights.

Speaker 19 (01:40:16):
We drinking everything.

Speaker 1 (01:40:28):
He is your mind? Where the hell you colease mine?

Speaker 19 (01:40:37):
You a like concrete feet in the summer.

Speaker 20 (01:40:42):
If as I come and two souls me, no, you'll
never be the man as you always.

Speaker 19 (01:40:53):
But I remember you singing in that idea.

Speaker 5 (01:40:59):
Course closing time, you were begging me to stay till
the sun.

Speaker 11 (01:41:04):
Rooms.

Speaker 5 (01:41:05):
Strangers come on out of a corone man's mouth when
it's mind's row pictures in passing time.

Speaker 1 (01:41:14):
You always smile like that when you're drinking. I wish I.

Speaker 9 (01:41:18):
Didn't, but I don't remember every moment on the nights
with you, Coach shoulder.

Speaker 19 (01:41:25):
Closing time, you were begging me to stay till the sun.

Speaker 1 (01:41:29):
Rooms, Jesus come on out of.

Speaker 5 (01:41:33):
A corone manmill man's minds throw pictures in passing time.

Speaker 19 (01:41:38):
You ways smile like that.

Speaker 1 (01:41:40):
When you're drinking.

Speaker 9 (01:41:42):
I wish I didn't, but I do remember every moment
on the nights with you, Right Dad, this is gonna

(01:42:02):
ease my mind.

Speaker 1 (01:42:06):
Be sound has s try and line.

Speaker 10 (01:42:11):
The waterminer Rugger Daddy in its threty eight four labrate
on hanging on the passenger door