The Troubleshooter 10-03-25

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Y'all ripped.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Dum you need it that who you don't have? You
come running just as fast.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
As we can.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Shooter's gonna help coming.

Speaker 4 (00:19):
Man.

Speaker 5 (00:20):
This is the Troubleshooter Show.

Speaker 6 (00:23):
No Tom Martino, Hello, Tom Martino here, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 5 (00:28):
This is card Day today.

Speaker 6 (00:29):
But we can talk about anything you want. I'll bring
the studio group in and you'll see if you're watching
at the bottom right of your screen the ugs. They
are not including sus I'm talking about the the other ugs,
not the other ugs. I mean the ugs and Beauty

(00:51):
and the Beast. Let's put it that way. Beauty and
the Beasts got major, Mark Major, and we got.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
I'm still scrambling to get everything put together here.

Speaker 6 (01:06):
Okay, good, he keeps scrambling there, Markie. And then we
have Jeff Fick, Kimmeer transmission, Kevin Colkin shared an Auto
tech and then I just see somebody off camera a
bit waving to me.

Speaker 5 (01:21):
Who is that?

Speaker 7 (01:21):
Dmitri?

Speaker 6 (01:23):
Oh, deputy d okay, Deputy d Anyway, welcome, let's talk
about things. All of the subsidies are gone.

Speaker 5 (01:34):
What does that mean?

Speaker 6 (01:35):
Well, first of all, Nissan recalled nineteen thousand evs because
of a fire risk with their fast charging and then
then they're so nineteen seventy seven vehicles. Their quick charging

(01:57):
systems can overheat and cause fire. Tesla posted, listen to
this a record delivery quarter. People trying to get in
under that subsidy being gone. Even as the subsidies expire.
They delivered four hundred ninety seven thousand vehicles in quarter three.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
And that's just before the I texted you over a
month ago. I said, man, you got to start looking
at that Tesla stock. That thing's on a tear baby. Yeah,
it's rich. Not only is he the richest man in
the world now because of Tesla, but he was the
first person to ever cross that half of a trillion dollars.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (02:41):
Wow, which five hundred billion dollars can you imagine? At
the same time, Tesla is raising lease prices now that
the tax credits are gone. They used to be the
owner and somehow they got the tax credits, so they
would pass them on through their lead. So if you
made too much money to get that incentive, they would

(03:04):
tell you, well, we'll give you that incentive in a lease.

Speaker 5 (03:08):
And that's what they were doing.

Speaker 6 (03:09):
So people making more than one hundred and fifty grand
that wanted to get that incentive could still get it,
but they're disappearing. Now what does that mean for the
EV industry?

Speaker 5 (03:22):
A lot of.

Speaker 6 (03:23):
Tesla and other executives in the EV industry say the
market is now mature enough to survive without subsidies, that
people are seeing the benefit of evs, and they're sick
and tired of gasoline prices, They're sick and tired of
maintenance and repairs, and they just absolutely positively believe in

(03:48):
the EV market.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
You know, when you say the market till Tom I
got it.

Speaker 5 (03:52):
I'd like to.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
Differentiate between an EV and a Tesla. Nothing else has autopilot.
It's a completely different vehicle than a Nissan or a Fordage.
There's nothing else that does what it does.

Speaker 5 (04:06):
There's not one.

Speaker 6 (04:07):
You're absolutely right, Mark, there is not one vehicle that
comes close evy or otherwise, not one, not one. After
taking that ride to college with my son and using
that autopilot, I was so blown away. I couldn't believe it. Yeah,

(04:28):
there's there's nothing like it. But what I don't understand
is this. Everyone borrows technology from everyone. Why is it
that the other ones are so slow to catch up.

Speaker 5 (04:41):
That I can't answer.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
They just never really looked at it, I guess, and
I mean, really, it.

Speaker 6 (04:46):
Is so important once you try it. I swear to
you as hard Mark. I'll bet you if you got
in my BMW, you'd feel like you went back.

Speaker 5 (04:55):
To the Stone Age.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
I absolutely When we were on vacation, we rented everywhere
we went, and I absolutely hated them. I absolutely hated
a jeep. We had a Jeep Cherokee. We also had
a little, uh like any Compass or something terrible, and
a Wrangler at one point. I mean we had three

(05:17):
four vehicles and I hated every one of them. I
can't stand him. Now I have a friend, well, we
have a friend. He's a sponsor of the show.

Speaker 6 (05:26):
I don't have to mention him by name, but he
has an electric hummer. And I'm telling you it's a
cool looking vehicle, but it does really nothing. It's just
an electric gasoline And I mean, you know what I mean.
It's like most of the manufacturers are taking just their

(05:49):
gasoline chassis, their gasoline car, and they're converting it to electric.
They're making very little change elsewhere where. Do you know
the biggest flop in the EV industry. Think about it
to see if you can figure out what the biggest
flop is. Guys, you want to take a guess the

(06:12):
biggest flop it came out. It's losing value on the
car lots. They started out selling at one eighty seven
to one ninety eight and now you can pick them
up new for one thirty or less, even at and
even at that price. Nope, it's the Mercedes G wagon.

(06:37):
Listen to this, to G five to eighty. They say
that it has a range of two hundred and thirty
six miles. People are reporting they can't get two hundred
miles out of it.

Speaker 5 (06:49):
It's got four motors.

Speaker 6 (06:51):
Now it rides beautifully, it's a beautiful car, but it's
just a terrible ev It's got a motor on each
wheel and it can do you know, a fancy you
know how the the Hummer does the crab walk, whatever
the hell that is, and this one does the the
the G five eighty or is it is it the

(07:13):
E five G five eighty I believe e is the
is the Mercedes version. And they have their little thing
they do, which is a three sixty in place, so
they manipulate the power so literally you're on. It's better
to be on gravel or something. But it'll do it
on It'll do it on on a hard surface. It

(07:34):
spins the tires in such a way that it makes
a complete three sixty in place?

Speaker 5 (07:41):
And why would you do that?

Speaker 6 (07:44):
No?

Speaker 5 (07:44):
Sounds cool, but no reason.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Mark stuck on a pass over. I tell you right,
this weekend could have used that technology.

Speaker 5 (07:51):
Yeah, it's yeah, no, no.

Speaker 6 (07:52):
Now, Now, it's supposed to be really good for off roading,
but you get no range out of these things. Now, Mark,
driving around and you live in the country, but driving
around is two hundred miles a terrible range. If you
had to limit yourself to two hundred miles.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Total pain in the ass. That would be a pain
in the ass range. I struggle. Our new Tesla's three thirty,
three hundred and thirty compared to our other one at
four hundred and ten, and that extra almost one hundred
is huge.

Speaker 8 (08:24):
Man.

Speaker 6 (08:25):
Okay, so you're saying that, Okay, let's uh, let's go
to the phones. Jamie, you got a car accident issue.

Speaker 5 (08:32):
What's going on? Jamie? Hello, Jamie, I guess a phone's good.
What's going on in there? Jamie's gone? I don't know what.

Speaker 6 (08:48):
Okay, Well, it's the new it's the new people.

Speaker 5 (08:51):
Well what do I call it?

Speaker 9 (08:53):
New?

Speaker 6 (08:53):
Uh? The new world. People don't wait more than thirty
seconds for anything.

Speaker 10 (09:00):
Mike, your turn. What's going on, Mike, Mike? We must
have an issue with the phones. Mike, she's trying to
get them back up.

Speaker 5 (09:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
We don't know what happened there. I don't hear anything either.

Speaker 6 (09:19):
So meanwhile, let's just take a quick break. We'll come
back talk about cars and anything else that you want
to talk about.

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Artino here, Welcome to the show. Three all three seven
to one three talk seven one three eight two five five.
All right, so here's the bottom line. What is it

(10:23):
that incentivizes people to buy evs. People say it's the
price of gas, Others say they like the technology, and
still others say it's the lack of maintenance. And I'm
telling you that you hardly ever have to do breaks,

(10:44):
and there's very little to be maintained in an EV car.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
There's almost nothing. I have had the one or model
less that we've had for three years. It's a twenty
twenty two. I put a set of tires on it
at thirty thousand miles. It's got over fifty now and
that's it. I've done nothing else. Hell, I haven't even
put wiper blades on it. Now that I think about it,
I've done nothing. I mean literally nothing.

Speaker 6 (11:10):
Yeah, when you think about that, that's pretty incredible. I
mean that's pretty incredible. So let's talk about automotive news.
In addition to that, the do you know that the
global sales of evs are twenty five percent globally and
in America it's not that much. America lags the world, actually,

(11:35):
which surprises me. I would think there'd be more EV
sold outside.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Well, some of the Chinese made evs are so gosh
darn cheap that they're all over over there and they
beat us in population hands down.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Yeah, and they are. When he says cheap, I mean
dirt cheap. You know, I've said this a lot. We've
kind of priced ourselves out of new cars in this country.
You can still go to Mexico now and buy you know,
this same car you buy over here, minus the ten
thousand dollars CAT systems for you know, fifteen thousand dollars.

Speaker 5 (12:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (12:09):
So anyway, I believe that they said the total sales
in America were somewhere around ten to fifteen percent. Ford
had the biggest boost in sales, uh, and their biggest
one was the Ford Mustang mock E. And the F

(12:31):
one fifty Lightning is the F one fifty Lightning and
EV it is, isn't it?

Speaker 5 (12:35):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (12:36):
It is apparently that you know, the the one fifty
was the top selling vehicle in the world, and now
this is the top selling one of the top selling evs. Well,
not compared to Tesla. I mean when you look at
all their models, but model per model, it's not this
model is holding its own F one fifty. The poorest

(12:57):
EV on the market is the Mercede and Mercedes in
general hold really bad numbers with evs.

Speaker 5 (13:06):
People are you know, I don't know. You know. It's
it seems to me.

Speaker 6 (13:10):
That when you take a regular car and just make
it an EV, it never makes.

Speaker 5 (13:17):
A good EV.

Speaker 6 (13:19):
It seems to me that something has to be built
as an EV straight up. So what's the honest opinion, guys?
And this is mark me you the you guys of leasing.
This is a text on by the way, my text
number that comes to my cell phone seven four seven

(13:42):
nine eighty.

Speaker 5 (13:45):
There really is a formula I can give you for this.

Speaker 6 (13:49):
But people want to know your opinion of lease over purchase.

Speaker 5 (13:56):
There really is no right answer for.

Speaker 6 (14:00):
Everyone agree that it depends on your mission. You know,
in the aviation industry we call it a mission.

Speaker 5 (14:09):
When you go to buy an.

Speaker 6 (14:10):
Aircraft, they say, well, Tom, what will your mission be?
For example, if you plan on bringing tours and sight seeing,
you want one kind of helicopter. If you're just going
to tool around and just be yourself and have fun,
that's another mission. If you're a businessman and you're looking

(14:31):
for a private jet, what is your mission? Are you
going to charter it out when you're not using it?
Are you going to use it just for you and
your family? That is your mission? Then you buy according
to your mission. So, guys, what would you say makes
a good lease candidate and who makes a good purchase candidate?

Speaker 7 (14:51):
I would say any EV is a good lease candidate,
only because you don't know what the value is going
to be in two or three.

Speaker 5 (14:56):
Well, in evs, but in cars in general, well, I.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Mean would be a terrible lease candidates. Too many miles
and what I do with a vehicle. I mean, if
you're going to get a truck and you're afraid to
use it, you afraid to get scratches and bounce it
off the road and whatnot, then don't.

Speaker 5 (15:11):
Get a truck now.

Speaker 6 (15:13):
Bob Perry once told me, and I want to speak
for him, but I will jfur cars hit their lease guy.
He said, mathematically, leases are never a bad idea.

Speaker 5 (15:26):
And here was his reasoning. So let's listen carefully.

Speaker 6 (15:29):
If you lease a car for two years or three years,
you're renting that car from yourself.

Speaker 5 (15:34):
Okay, you own it for.

Speaker 6 (15:37):
All intents and purposes, you own it, but you're promising
to put a certain amount of miles on it and
return it back to the less ore, who is really
the owner, at the end of that three years, and
they promise, you're going to walk away.

Speaker 5 (15:55):
Now if that car is worth more.

Speaker 6 (15:58):
At the end of that three years, they make some
money on that car. If it's worthless, you've done yourself
some pretty you know, you've protected yourself from a down
market on that car. But what if you're like Jeff
and you put too many miles on it? Now think
about this. I really want you to think about it,
and I have to do it.

Speaker 5 (16:19):
In terms of an apple.

Speaker 6 (16:21):
When you lease the apple, you tell the guy at
the fruit stand, the farmer, the less sore.

Speaker 5 (16:27):
You tell him, I'm only going.

Speaker 6 (16:29):
To eat half of the apple and I will return
the other half to you. And then the farmer says, okay,
and then I'll take that apple off your hands and
you can walk away, or you're guaranteed a certain price
for it or whatever.

Speaker 5 (16:48):
That is the purest lease.

Speaker 6 (16:51):
You eat the part you promise to eat and leave
the rest for residual value.

Speaker 5 (16:58):
But what if you eat way more than that in mileage?

Speaker 6 (17:02):
Like Jeff just said, I'd be a terrible candidate for
a lease.

Speaker 5 (17:06):
Well, that's true.

Speaker 6 (17:08):
If you want to get rid of that vehicle at
the end of two or three years and you put
more miles on it, it isn't a great deal. But
if you plan on keeping the vehicle, you now have
a used vehicle that you used, so you're buying a
used vehicle from yourself. You can now go and release

(17:35):
that car or purchase that car from the leasing company,
and you end up keeping it longer. So even with
over mileage, you can keep that car and you can
thrive in it. But a lot of people feel if
I finance it and I put a bunch of miles
on it, I don't have to speak to anyone. I

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just keep it as long as I want and then
sell it. But value is always going to be value.
If it's going to be worth less on the resale
market from buying, it's going to be less on the
residual market from leasing, And there's really no way around it.
Leasing is a perfect candidate for leasing if we break

(18:19):
it down as someone who can live by the terms
of the lease.

Speaker 5 (18:22):
So in that regard, Jeff, you're right.

Speaker 6 (18:24):
If you just want to lease and have a new
car every three years, there is no cleaner, better way
to not lose money. And in essence, Mark used to
do that. He didn't lease, but it was almost exactly
like a lease. He'd buy a car, keep it a

(18:46):
certain number of years, and sell it at its prime
and restore much of his investment. And when you admortized
his payment for use of that car, it was right
around a lease payment, and he never went way up
in payment or way down in payment. He was able
to keep the same if you were going to do

(19:08):
it in a payment.

Speaker 5 (19:08):
I think he paid cash.

Speaker 6 (19:09):
But Mark, wasn't that true that you kind of kept
that same residual each time you went into.

Speaker 5 (19:16):
Your next car. Yeah, pre COVID, that's very true.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
So I'd pay cash for whatever in the launcher or
whatever Santa Fe. Then we would sell it right around
forty thousand miles, so it would still have twenty thousand
miles bumper to bumper and all that good stuff, And
it would turn out our payments would have been, if
you did the math, maybe two hundred and fifty bucks
a month, which would be about equal to a lease payment. Absolutely. Hey, right,

(19:41):
I did want to bring something up.

Speaker 5 (19:42):
Real quick though, Go ahead.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
You were talking about the F one fifty light lightning
selling so many units. Let me give you real numbers
year to date. Yeah, worldwide, Yeah, twenty thousand, five hundred
units MIBK Model it.

Speaker 6 (19:58):
Was one hundred and by the way, that was one
hundred thirty five percent uptick this year.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
But go ahead, Model Why nine hundred and seventy five
thousand units year today?

Speaker 11 (20:09):
Wow?

Speaker 5 (20:10):
Not even I mean, we're not even talking.

Speaker 6 (20:13):
I was told Model Why is the number one selling
vehicle in the world.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
I'm sure it is, but that's a million year to date,
so it's probably gonna end up it at one point two.
I mean, there's nothing that I mean think about. It's
the largest. I think it's the largest car. Well definitely
value wise, it's the largest, but I think they probably
outsell Toyota at.

Speaker 5 (20:34):
This point, I would assume, but I'm not sure.

Speaker 6 (20:38):
Well anyway, Globally, it was twenty percent of all new
cars were electric, and the forecast suggests twenty five percent
for the coming year, and in the US ten percent.

Speaker 5 (20:50):
We're electric.

Speaker 6 (20:52):
They say that Americans have less faith in ev than
other countries, and that has a lot to do with
the price of fuel. Our price of fuel is pretty
low compared to other countries. For the existing global fleet,
evs are still a small, very small share. If you

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look worldwide at the entire fleet. What percent do you
think are evs the entire fleet around the world? Four percent?
Four percent? God, there's so much growth, so much growth,
you know, I believe Elon Musk might be the first trillionaire.

Speaker 5 (21:37):
What do you think? I think so for sure.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
I mean he's the only one even close if you
start looking at it in those terms.

Speaker 6 (21:43):
But they're saying ev at least one thing is for sure.
Evs are no longer, no longer in niche. They're absolutely
part of mainstream, and that mechanics and autoshops are having
to learn to adapt for the maintenance. They will need
some of them in common with gasoline cars, but many

(22:07):
of them unique to evs. Have you, guys, Kevin shared
an auto techty we're taking all the time, Jeff, do
you guys do some things for this?

Speaker 5 (22:20):
Are you doing some stuff for this?

Speaker 1 (22:22):
For the electric vs? Now, there's there's really no market
for us, and any only thing we could really do
is start getting into, you know, some of the motorwork.
But you're really not seeing that, and we can basically
just chassis I.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
Don't know, so I would guess like those motor slash forever.
I think other stuff on the car is going to
break before those damnos.

Speaker 7 (22:40):
So most of our stuff's alignments, chassis, stuff like that.
You know, people are replacing tires, getting the linement.

Speaker 5 (22:46):
Yeah, you could do breaks, you could do alignments all that.

Speaker 7 (22:48):
You don't need breaks half the time. So yeah, that's
not even a huge market. But I think you have
to do We're out.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
I bet I bet your average test will is driven
by a normal person, not like an uber driver or something.
I bet break sure like one hundred and fifty thousand,
you start thinking about.

Speaker 7 (23:03):
Ever replaced breaks while you won't it.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Yeah, But all the same with them removing the incentives,
I think that the curve is going to lower down
a little bit as far as people going in, I.

Speaker 7 (23:12):
Think the price is going to come back down because
the price went up when the incentive came out.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
Well, they just constantly get cheaper and cheaper to build too.
I mean, someone like Eline, he knows like how to
make these cars cheaper.

Speaker 5 (23:23):
I mean that's kind of a real deal.

Speaker 7 (23:25):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (23:26):
All right, we have more coming up on the Troubleshooter Show.

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talk three O three seven one three A two five five. Okay,

(24:17):
So basically, Mike has an issue with an engine, and
I can tell him what it is right now. He
has a nineteen fifty seven Chevy bel air Well, for
goodness sakes, you gotta let the thing you got to
put it in the ground, put it to.

Speaker 7 (24:35):
Rest, now, keep it moving, keep it running, all right?

Speaker 5 (24:38):
What kind of an engine, guys, does that have?

Speaker 7 (24:41):
Two eighty three?

Speaker 5 (24:42):
Probably Mike tell us about it.

Speaker 12 (24:46):
Yes, Tom, I need someone who could pop the distributor
cap on a three point fifty Chevy V eight. Uh,
the U engine stalls on me and I can't get
enough rpm of it to do anything other than charge
the battery. I've replaced the fuel pump and two spark

(25:06):
plug wires, and why can't.

Speaker 6 (25:09):
You pop the cap? Is there something special about that?

Speaker 8 (25:13):
Yes?

Speaker 12 (25:13):
I need someone who could check and see if the
points have spread on it, because this happened twenty five
years ago. It backfired at thirty miles an hour and
it damaged the muffler and it quit on me and
we pull it back to the house.

Speaker 5 (25:28):
Are you putting this on? Honestly? Are you putting us on?

Speaker 6 (25:33):
No?

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Okay, So you've been fighting the same problem for twenty
five years.

Speaker 12 (25:40):
I mean you've had I've had the car forty seven years.

Speaker 6 (25:45):
Really, you've had that car for forty seven years. How
many miles on it?

Speaker 12 (25:50):
Oh? Probably about half a million?

Speaker 5 (25:54):
Come on, brother, How often do you change the oil? Oh?

Speaker 12 (25:59):
About every three thousand.

Speaker 5 (26:02):
Have you had to do anything to the engine, whether it.

Speaker 12 (26:06):
Was replaced in the ninety nine.

Speaker 7 (26:09):
Yeah, that's not well. That motor's not a resident in it.

Speaker 12 (26:13):
And they had to put a three to fifty in
it because no more to eighty three blocks or of it.

Speaker 6 (26:17):
Okay, hey guys, were those cars easy to interchange engines
back then?

Speaker 5 (26:24):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (26:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (26:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Easier than today, That's fair for sure.

Speaker 6 (26:27):
I mean it's way different than nowadays. Somebody wanted to
know this. There's this text goes right along with this call.
Somebody wants to build a classic with his son.

Speaker 5 (26:38):
What are the most supported.

Speaker 6 (26:40):
That you can think of where he can get almost
new parts or remanufactured parts and engines rebuilt.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Probably the Mustang or the Camaro are going to be
the easiest stuff to I mean, they still make some
of the panels and whatnot. Your one has a lot
of that stuff available.

Speaker 7 (26:56):
Yeah, different Chavell's Mustangs, Civic.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
What how about like a Honda civicswhere okay, an older Honda.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Civic not a classic yet, not a lot of support
for that.

Speaker 6 (27:11):
One, Okay, I okay. But when I was in the hospital,
I watched these shows, these restoration shows, and these guys
were not getting parts out of a junkyard. They would
have panels arrive and no, I'm serious. I did nothing
but watch restorations, and I thought to myself, they're remanufacturing

(27:34):
the damn car. Have you ever seen these shows where
they take something out of a cornfield and it's like
they make it into a beautiful They.

Speaker 7 (27:45):
Call them barn finds, you know, they find them in
the old bars and things. But yeah, that's the reason
that Jeff said, you know, Jane Ford, Chevy, they still
make panels.

Speaker 5 (27:53):
That's a big deal with tractors too, man, it is.

Speaker 6 (27:57):
I just don't know how the hell they get away.
I mean, how do they do it?

Speaker 3 (28:01):
Its okay, time time, time, time time.

Speaker 6 (28:06):
Right, Here's what I need to know. Is there basically
a place? And I think that's what this texture is asking.
Is there basically a place for every car out there
that is manufacturing new parts or or are there some
absolutely not supported, some.

Speaker 7 (28:22):
Are definitely more supported than others.

Speaker 6 (28:26):
Okay, what's the most supported of the big automaker Chevy,
Chevy and Ford probably equally. Okay, so Chevy and Ford.
If you're going to do a restoration project with your kid,
that would be a cool thing to do. But then
Mark mentioned the Japanese cars because kids love souping up

(28:48):
those Japanese cars.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
There's not a lot of support for it though, trying
to get that together.

Speaker 6 (28:55):
And then for souping them up, they say there are
very few companyese, but you can buy turbos and different
things for these engines. And uh and is it come on, man,
can they Is it true? They can get four and
five hundred horse power.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
In most definitely the most commonly anymore is the LS swaps.
You know, they drop in that Corvette LS platform and
you know there's a lot you can.

Speaker 5 (29:19):
Do mechanically in a Japanese car.

Speaker 7 (29:22):
No, not a Japanese car, No, but they cant. They
can very easily get four to six hundred horsepower in
the Japanese cars just money.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
You just bolt on.

Speaker 6 (29:31):
For how long would that engine really let generate six hundred.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
No a half a year depending on the person behind it, yep.

Speaker 7 (29:40):
If you're in the pedal the whole time. Yeah, it's
not gonna last long.

Speaker 6 (29:44):
Man, this is incredible. Okay, so, uh, what what's your
advice to Mike.

Speaker 7 (29:50):
It's something we can handle, Tom. You know, I still
work on those older cars.

Speaker 6 (29:53):
All Okay, Yeah, I think I saw some out there
when I went and I really you know, I really
do go to Sheridan Autotech dot com.

Speaker 5 (30:01):
Now I would go to Jeff except he's ugly, but anyway,
that's the same.

Speaker 6 (30:05):
My wife said, So let's go to Frank Frank Hello,
what's your question, Frankie, Yes, sir, Frankie.

Speaker 13 (30:17):
On that on that fifty seven should.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
Yeah, distributed, The distributed cap probably has a crack in it.
That's why he's getting all this this backfire and bogging down.

Speaker 6 (30:31):
A crack in the cap. Do they make those caps still, guys?

Speaker 14 (30:35):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (30:36):
Yeah, Yeah. It's got a little carbon button inside that
touches the rotor and that's easy. What happens if backfires
through it?

Speaker 6 (30:42):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (30:43):
I get it. I get it. Okay, and uh.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
If theaver cap has a crack in it.

Speaker 9 (30:50):
He's going to have the same problems he's telling you about.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
The guys have the problem for twenty five years. Am
I not the only one that finds that? The most
amazing part about that call he waited twenty five years
to call the show to figure out what could cause
something that happened twenty five years ago.

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Speaker 5 (32:22):
Okay, so.

Speaker 6 (32:25):
Let's talk about this Chevy seems to be bringing. I
can't believe that a fifty seven Chevy is going to
cause comments. Think of our audience, how splintered it is
to begin with. We have young and old, we have
gray and dark hair. Okay, you know, think about it.

(32:47):
So let's talk now about Jay's comment. Let's go Jay,
then we'll go to Danny.

Speaker 5 (32:54):
Go ahead.

Speaker 9 (32:57):
Hey Tom, Hey, I know there's just a hope.

Speaker 5 (32:59):
Can hear I can hear you find sir excellent.

Speaker 9 (33:05):
I have found on some of the older cars that backfire.
And this is back when I was working on Corvette,
so they weren't driven a lot. They'd sit forever. Sometimes
the oil between the valve stem and the valve guide
would dry up and it becomes basically car. I mean
it becomes almost like super group and the valves would

(33:26):
be really slow. They would still move. Sometimes they've been
to push rods. They'd been they'd moved really slow. It's
shut slow and a backfire.

Speaker 6 (33:36):
And hey, guys would beg products clean that up.

Speaker 7 (33:43):
Well, there's no fuel injectors, so no, not really. It
wouldn't do much for that one.

Speaker 6 (33:47):
So it so BG doesn't fix like like gunk in
the engine.

Speaker 7 (33:51):
They don't have a the engine, but the carburetor. If
it says too long, you want to just put a
kid in. It's just clean it up. It's kind of
like a lawnmower. I mean, the carburetors just two three
years of sent and you got it. You gotta pull
them apart and clean them up really live actually well
twenty five, but who knows how long it's been sitting.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Yeah, back in the day with that general maintenance, like
someone would bring that in Kevin.

Speaker 5 (34:12):
Like every year and you'd put a rebuild kit in, well.

Speaker 7 (34:14):
You accelerator pump or something.

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Six is the Troubleshooter Show. No, Tom Martine, Hello.

Speaker 6 (35:34):
Tom Martino here, Welcome to the show. Three oh three
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Speaker 5 (35:41):
Today is car Day.

Speaker 6 (35:42):
We're talking about basically a fifty seven Chevy so far, No,
we've also talked about other things.

Speaker 5 (35:48):
We want to talk.

Speaker 6 (35:48):
About storing gasoline. Somebody wants to know that, but I'll
go to the calls. First callers always got always have
a priority.

Speaker 5 (35:56):
Now, Jay, did you get your comments in?

Speaker 6 (35:58):
Because, uh, I don't know if I cut you off
or we had to go short, go ahead and finish up?

Speaker 9 (36:03):
Jay, Oh kind, I wasn't sure if anybody caught it.
But what I was referring to is that being a
pushrod motor.

Speaker 6 (36:12):
Okay, for those just tuning in, we're talking about a
nineteen fifty seven Chevy.

Speaker 5 (36:18):
That how long Mark?

Speaker 6 (36:20):
Did he say it's been having misfires for twenty years?

Speaker 3 (36:23):
Uh No, that would be twenty five years.

Speaker 6 (36:26):
Twenty five years, and he's just getting around to wondering
what's causing it.

Speaker 9 (36:34):
So Jane, that's a yeah, that's a pushrod motor.

Speaker 12 (36:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (36:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (36:39):
What I was trying to get to is when they
don't get driven a lot, there's a very very tight
between the push rod the valves.

Speaker 6 (36:51):
Yeah, And what you're what you're saying is sentiment builds
up in there.

Speaker 9 (36:56):
So in the head itself where the valve goes through
the valve guide.

Speaker 6 (37:01):
I'm trying not to be too technical, but go ahead.
So it jams up the valves.

Speaker 9 (37:06):
It jams up the valves and they go real slow.
And when it's when it's firing and the exhaust valve
has not shut completely, it blows right back through the carburetor.
So if he's talking about true backfire, that means back
through the intake. He's talking about an afterfire that's through
the exhaust.

Speaker 6 (37:25):
Don't know and what and why does all this matter?
And I'm not being the smartest, I mean, why does
all this matter? Which way it's going?

Speaker 9 (37:34):
That just tells you where where the problem is. You're
either on an intake or or an exhaust stroke.

Speaker 6 (37:40):
Kevin, what's the first thing you look at when he
comes in with a backfire like this?

Speaker 5 (37:44):
What's the first thing you look at?

Speaker 7 (37:45):
Ignition? Okay, firing points, timing that kind of thing, and
then you start looking towards compression problems.

Speaker 6 (37:53):
Yes, okay, and a lot of people call as Jay
just said everything a backfire and not everything is technically
a backfire.

Speaker 7 (38:01):
He's correct, He's absolutely correct.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (38:04):
Some of them can just be a double fire.

Speaker 7 (38:07):
Of course, you know, just twing fluid through it. So
we used to do through the carburetor. Yeah, smoke's crazy,
but it cleans everything up real nice.

Speaker 8 (38:17):
Jay.

Speaker 5 (38:18):
Thanks. Let's by the way, I'm going to ask this again.

Speaker 6 (38:22):
Backfiring or this extra bang comes from unspent fuel right.

Speaker 7 (38:33):
Or miss time spark. If you get a spark with
an open valve, you get a backfire.

Speaker 6 (38:39):
Okay, And again, I don't want to get too technical
for people, but a lot of people know Friday is
car Day. And if I had to sum this up,
and I'm really serious about this, I can explain an
engine in a very simple way. It takes air in,
it mixes it with atomized fuel or fuel that is
converted to a and it either through a carburetor or injection,

(39:05):
puts it where the spark makes it explode. When the
spark makes it explode, it pushes a piston which drives
the engine. I mean, and then while one piston is
driving the engine, the other piston is exhausting what it
did last time.

Speaker 5 (39:25):
And whether you have.

Speaker 6 (39:26):
Four, six, or eight of them, in some cases twelve,
you have a continual motion as long as you're introducing
your fuel and your gas. I mean, you're just me
and your air. So like you guys used to say
in the old days, I remember this because I knew
people as old as Kevin. Believe it or not, I'm Kevin.

(39:49):
I did when I was a boy growing up. I
knew people like you, and they they they would say this,
there's three things I check.

Speaker 5 (40:00):
What are those three things? Fuel?

Speaker 7 (40:04):
Air, spark, fuel air, sparkan compression.

Speaker 6 (40:06):
That's it fuel well, fuel, air and spark. We're the
first three things. Is it getting fuel, is it getting air?
Is it getting spark? And is it getting those things
at the right time?

Speaker 1 (40:21):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (40:23):
You know. It's like if you had.

Speaker 6 (40:26):
A dinner you were if you were if you were
baking or scrambling an egg and you have that hot, hot,
hot frying pan, and then you know you don't put
the egg in there. You're not going to get a
fried egg if you if you put the egg in
there and you didn't warm up the pan, you don't
have fire, You're gonna get a raw egg.

Speaker 5 (40:46):
I mean, so everything in a car has to be timed.

Speaker 6 (40:50):
It's just a matter of getting air mixed with fuel
and making it explode. And believe it or not, internal
combustion engine is just what it means. It's controlling many, many,
many thousands of many explosions, and these explosions are directed
to the drive chef. And I'm assuming, and oh god,

(41:14):
you might be pissed me. I'm assuming this is coming
from a woman because I got that question, like, why
do people assume that we know what you're talking about? Well,
we don't, but we do answer questions, and we can't
tell everyone like the beginning of creation when they ask

(41:35):
about how to scramble an egg. So we do the
best we can. But if you have a specific question,
no matter how basic it is, we can answer them.
If you want to know about and internal combustion engines
are often called ice internal combustion engine, and then the

(41:55):
only alternative right now would be ev If someone wants
to know about diesel, this is a text that falls
right in line with what we're talking about. Is a
diesel and internal combustion engine.

Speaker 5 (42:12):
Yes, of course it is right.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
Yeah, but instead of you know, instead of going by
octane and introducing a spark, you've run extremely high compression
and we run it rate it by seatane by its
ability to blow, so that compression actually creates the ignition.

Speaker 6 (42:28):
But if compression creates the ignition which moves the pistons,
the question would be why do we have glow plugs.

Speaker 5 (42:37):
They're like spark plugs. Why do you have to heat that.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
Chamber like spark plugs? They simply warm the fuel before
it is introduced to the combustion.

Speaker 5 (42:45):
That's what I meant. I meant we look at the
messicans that.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
Fuel warmed up to fire up cold diesel fuel does
not want to fire.

Speaker 6 (42:52):
Okay, So it warms the fuel, it introduces it into
the chamber, but it is the compression that makes it fire.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
Correct.

Speaker 6 (43:02):
Then how do you adjust timing on something like that
if it's simply going into the chamber, you really don't.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
I mean, you're introducing it by the you know, the
timing of the injectors to the stroke of the engine.

Speaker 6 (43:15):
Okay, So are they simple to work on diesels?

Speaker 1 (43:20):
It's good, you know, baking a cake or bacon a pie.

Speaker 5 (43:23):
Yeah, okay, got it.

Speaker 6 (43:25):
Danny, what is your question on this fifties or a
comment on this fifty seven Chevy? The guys had a
misfire for twenty five years.

Speaker 8 (43:35):
I don't know what the response ism from the car guys,
but we've dealt with hundreds of Chevyes and show cars,
and I've got an answer for both of your questions
about the storing feel as well. Oh good. What he
needs to do is put seafoam in the in the
gas and seafoam in the oil, and that helps the
balve seats and clear up all the jets. And then

(43:56):
what he needs to do is drop an HI distributor
in that car with new plugs and that'll solve his problem.

Speaker 6 (44:03):
Okay, First, explain to me. Explain to me sea foam.
Explain to me cea phone please.

Speaker 8 (44:11):
Sea phone is a chemical that goes into the gas
and the oil, and it in it the gas when
you mix it in the gas, if you double dose
it on cars that stay parked all the time, it's
it's a chemical that breaks down the gumming and the
jets of decarburettor from the car sitting all the time
because they get hot and cold from expansion contraction of

(44:32):
the fuel. They produce moisture in the gas and that
comes up the carburetor. She phone clears out the carburetor
and doesn't let that build up. So if he puts
that in it, we've been using it for thirty plus years.

Speaker 6 (44:44):
Is it actually called it? Obviously? Obviously sea foam is
a brand name or something.

Speaker 8 (44:50):
Or is it just a yeah, So it's a brand name.
It's in a white can they sell it at Walmart?
They sell it at autozones.

Speaker 11 (44:56):
He can look it up.

Speaker 5 (44:57):
It's just ie.

Speaker 12 (44:58):
I know.

Speaker 5 (44:58):
I just looked it up.

Speaker 6 (45:00):
PHAM motor treatment for fuel and oil. Guys, how do
you feel about ce foam?

Speaker 7 (45:06):
It's been around forever. It's a decent product.

Speaker 5 (45:09):
Okay, does good?

Speaker 6 (45:10):
And they were okay, And and that answers the question
about storing fuel. Does it help keep fuel more viable
longer down?

Speaker 8 (45:20):
Yep, it sure does. And then and then, like I said,
I have a part number for him for that Chevrolet. Uh,
the Hi distributor.

Speaker 5 (45:28):
Well, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (45:28):
I don't even think the guy's listening, right, the guy's
probably not listening to write it down.

Speaker 8 (45:34):
They sell them complete that from Jaggs. For one hundred bucks,
you can buy a new one new distributor. All he's
got to do is bring the kriston the top dead
center number one, drop it in and then run new
plugs and plugs and it'll stop. It'll sounds to me
like updated.

Speaker 6 (45:50):
He didn't know how to pop off that. He didn't
know how to pop off the cap. I doubt he's
gonna know.

Speaker 8 (45:55):
The guys should be able to help him if he
gets to the Yeah. So, like I said, it's just
it's kaled completely solved.

Speaker 5 (46:02):
Are you in the business, Danny, No.

Speaker 8 (46:05):
We just built show cars and been doing it for
a long time. So that's how we do with those
the old, old, outdated motors, because they got the points
system and the HI is a high energy ignition and
it does okay with the points and it does it
does in ignition coil and it's it just fires. The
timing exactly accurate the way it needs to be for

(46:26):
that motor. It was like a new, newer, updated design.

Speaker 5 (46:31):
All right, Well, thank you very much.

Speaker 11 (46:32):
A partner.

Speaker 8 (46:33):
I can leave it with her if she is, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (46:35):
Well you can leave it, you can, you can.

Speaker 6 (46:38):
You can leave it with Kachina and she will gladly
pass it along if the caller is still listening and
needs that information. Three oh three seven one three talk
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Speaker 5 (46:53):
So I answered this.

Speaker 6 (46:54):
Quo, what question about the moment the most serviable cars
would be fed in Chevy? And then are there any
cars basically unsupported where you may as well not even
try to restore or to keep them? Do you know,
does anything come to mind?

Speaker 7 (47:13):
I think you could get parts for most anything, just
how much work do you want to do to find them?

Speaker 6 (47:19):
And as far as stamping out new parts? Are they
basically public domain after a while? Because as I said,
these restoration shows on cable.

Speaker 5 (47:31):
There, they're all very very They're unbelievable.

Speaker 7 (47:36):
They licensing or not. I don't know how they do that.

Speaker 6 (47:39):
Yeah, somebody said that they ordered a part from one
of these places after market to rebuild and restore an
older car, and they said, you would swear to God.

Speaker 5 (47:53):
That it didn't come. I mean, it wasn't made for
that car.

Speaker 6 (47:56):
So the question is is there magic to fitting parts
that you get after you know, after market parts to
where they're supposed to go.

Speaker 5 (48:05):
The holes didn't line up, nothing did. Is that common.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
I mean you're going to have some issues there as
far as fabricating that. And plus that car has been
on the road for what thirty forty fifty sixty years.
Things have moved, believe it or not, so things don't
always lie up. But you know, back in the day,
we used to be able to get stuff from cert
of Fit, who's no longer around. Yeah it was made
for that car. Yes it was stamped for that car,
but it didn't exactly fit the way a manufacturers part would.

Speaker 6 (48:32):
But nowadays things have gotten really uniformed, haven't they.

Speaker 5 (48:36):
I mean as far the better.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
Part just depends on what you're working on. I mean,
years ago I had a guy with a thirty two Hudson.
You're not going to find parts for that car. I
mean you no, no, no, find somebody who could, who
could pound, steal and me no.

Speaker 6 (48:47):
But I'm talking about the newer, new parts for new cars.
They're pretty much they're pretty much as you can plug
and play them, right, I mean you can.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
Play with them.

Speaker 7 (48:57):
Yeah. Well it depends on where you are. If you're
buying from overseas, it's it's a roll of the dice.

Speaker 6 (49:03):
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Speaker 5 (50:46):
Hey Mike, what is going on? Uh with your issue?
What's happened in Mike?

Speaker 12 (50:52):
Uh?

Speaker 11 (50:53):
Yeah, I was involved in a car accident maybe three
months ago where so it cats of soft sign and
hit me. See won't be total my car.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
My question is, okay, hey Mike, was there injuries involved?

Speaker 5 (51:06):
I'm just curious.

Speaker 11 (51:08):
Yes, I've been going to the doctor for four times
a week.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
Did you hire an attorney?

Speaker 11 (51:15):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (51:15):
I give okay, good deal. So what's the question.

Speaker 11 (51:19):
My question is they finally came back earlier this week.
It told me they were going to take responsibility for
that of it or that, but anyway, they off need
a low low price.

Speaker 6 (51:34):
On my car.

Speaker 11 (51:35):
Well my car wasn't really that great anyway.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
But well, okay, listen, the value the value of your
car is the value of your car.

Speaker 5 (51:42):
We have a guy named Petty.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
This guy can tell you exactly how much it is,
but your attorney, your personal injury is generally not going
to help you much with that. The nice part about
the guy I used, John Fullery, would help you. But
I understand most attorneys don't get in that part because
they want to get their percentage of it. But I
know a guy that will go in there and tell
you exactly what it's worth, and then when you go

(52:06):
back to them, they don't want to give you that
for five hundred bucks. Uh, He'll go to battle for
you and get the proper amount. I mean, it's simple
as that.

Speaker 11 (52:15):
Man, Yeah, my car is not even worth that most maybe.

Speaker 5 (52:21):
Well, how much are they offering you?

Speaker 11 (52:23):
Okay, well that they told me this week that everybody
offered me eighty percent of the damage to the car
because there was a damage on the car before, so
they offered me fo.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
Okay, well was there hold on, Mike, was there was
there damage on there before? I mean that's a valid reason.

Speaker 11 (52:43):
No, there was no damage on that car before.

Speaker 5 (52:45):
Then why are they why are they saying why are
they saying? Yeah, why are they saying there was damage?

Speaker 11 (52:51):
Because they said the way the acting them that happened.
They don't fill us back. Oh, that damage happened, but
it did the.

Speaker 6 (53:01):
Body shop go along with you? Did you get an
estimate from a body shop or have them look at it?

Speaker 5 (53:07):
No?

Speaker 11 (53:08):
They My question is do I got to prove that
if there was no damage on that car? Or do
they have to prove that there damage on that car?

Speaker 3 (53:20):
It's all going back and forth. You got to have
a conversation with them, and you have to have evidence.
I mean, just tell them there wasn't. I mean, you
just got to talk to him.

Speaker 6 (53:30):
See you know, Mike, insurance companies and adjusters specifically, their
job is to pay as little as possible if they
took if they took responsibility for the accident.

Speaker 5 (53:44):
Now they want to see how little they can pay you.

Speaker 6 (53:47):
So what they're saying is, look, we're not paying for
all of it because some of that damage was there,
and you're if you have any recent photos of your
car or anything like that that would help.

Speaker 5 (53:59):
Do you have anything at all like that?

Speaker 11 (54:02):
No, I don't. That's that's that's why I'm ready to
make a settlement with them. But I was just wondering,
do I have to prove that there was no damage
or do they got to prove that?

Speaker 5 (54:13):
D both both, Okay, whichever whatever comes first.

Speaker 6 (54:18):
If you can, if you can show that you didn't
have damage, it's it's not a matter of proving, it's
a matter of negotiating, but he's will.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
Underneath the cap for small claims, he can just bypass them.

Speaker 5 (54:28):
And and that's what I preach all the time. So
thank you for reminding me of that.

Speaker 6 (54:35):
So what do you what? What Jeff's saying is you
don't to screw their with their insurance, go after the
person who caused the damage and sue for all of
the damages.

Speaker 11 (54:49):
Okay, that sounds right. Okay, then I'll do that.

Speaker 5 (54:53):
I mean, how much of it? How much of a
difference is it?

Speaker 11 (55:00):
I told I called him back and I told him
I'll take a big loss on the car. I'll take
two thousand dollars. I bought the car back by to
try to fix it, and they said they're going to
send it to their team and find out if they'll
do it for me. But I'm waiting on the answer.

Speaker 5 (55:15):
That's all goes back though, that's all them. That's right,
It is all negotiable.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
So for the hell of it, what kind of car
is it? What are we talking about? You got my
curiosity up?

Speaker 11 (55:29):
It was it was nine? What is it?

Speaker 5 (55:33):
I haven't heard of that brand?

Speaker 6 (55:35):
What is it?

Speaker 11 (55:37):
Al key?

Speaker 6 (55:39):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (55:39):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (55:39):
It was okay, Yeah, it's definitely worth more than fourteen
hundred bucks.

Speaker 11 (55:44):
Dude, that was the blue Book value is three thousand
dollars a low end top tenty seven thousand.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
I'd take him to Fall Claims for four yeah, or
I'd call a petty and talk to him. It's a
free phone call. He's going to ask for the year,
make miles the trim. He's going to tell you what
he thinks HiT's worth, and he'll tell you what he
thinks a buyback would be would cost you, and then
you'll have a net number. But I mean, if you
don't want to call him, don't call him.

Speaker 11 (56:11):
Okay, what was that name?

Speaker 5 (56:13):
Kelly?

Speaker 3 (56:14):
Kelly's going to give you the phone number.

Speaker 6 (56:16):
Yeah, we already talked to you about it, so she'll
give that to you off the ur petty details and
he's on our referra list at referraless dot com. Deputy
bow real quick.

Speaker 5 (56:25):
Here this call. This call from Kendra back in August.

Speaker 6 (56:31):
She has a twenty fifteen jeep Cherokee with a recall
on the transmission and it would suddenly shift into neutral
AutoNation charged two hundred dollars more than two hundred on diagnostics.
Dealer said they will not honor the recall because the
skid plate was installed incorrectly.

Speaker 5 (56:53):
Who did the skid plate? Was it was? I mean,
talk to me about this bow. What did you find out?

Speaker 6 (56:59):
I did?

Speaker 4 (56:59):
She her local mechanic do some work on it. That's
why AutoNation JEEP was denying the repair under the recall
of the power transfer unit. But there was just back
and forth on it.

Speaker 13 (57:14):
Been working on.

Speaker 4 (57:14):
This since August. Yeah, so the bill to install it
would be sixty eight hundred dollars. So she may have
had a little culpability here. I don't know, but we
went back and forth. I was able to get a
hold of the manager, Eric Abager's cell phone, and called
him during his kid's soccer game a few weeks ago.

(57:35):
He wasn't too happy about it, but he said he'd
personally look into it.

Speaker 12 (57:39):
So I think we got a partial resolution.

Speaker 5 (57:42):
Well, what's what is the issue?

Speaker 6 (57:45):
Did they turn down the recall completely because of the
skid plate?

Speaker 4 (57:52):
Yes, because of the skid plate and something else was
installed by other than an authorized Chrysler dealer.

Speaker 6 (58:00):
It's a twenty fifteen, for god's sakes. I mean, you know,
it's a ten year old car, So what do they expect.

Speaker 5 (58:08):
That she go to the dealer every time she has
something wrong.

Speaker 4 (58:12):
They had a fifteen year recaller. But what happened on
of mine is AutoNation gave in a little bit the
dealership's pain for a third of the repair in the
christ Or Corporation's.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
Pain for a third.

Speaker 4 (58:25):
So she asked to come up.

Speaker 16 (58:27):
Oh, give me two hundred.

Speaker 4 (58:29):
So he got a partial resolution.

Speaker 5 (58:31):
Well I think that's good. Is she happy with that
or not?

Speaker 4 (58:35):
She's not very happy, but I think it was when
she called in and she was looking at a sixty
eight hundred dollars bill. So when we got involved, we
at least got to reduce down to twenty two hundred.
They did the repair and the car is drivable.

Speaker 6 (58:49):
Oh man, okay, So now I was wondering if I
was going to get to do this.

Speaker 5 (58:54):
I want to use my dinger, especially on a Friday,
you know.

Speaker 6 (58:57):
And uh.

Speaker 5 (59:00):
So you did have success.

Speaker 6 (59:02):
You know what I love, BO is that you don't
throw up your hands in the air and give up.
I swear to God, you don't. You're really doing an
excellent job at just keep you keep nipping away at
their heels, and I love it all right. Well, thank
you very much. The dinger goes to Bow on a

(59:23):
Friday morning. You know, it's amazing what they will do
to try to reduce the amount they pay out. I
mean that I don't know how you can be an
insurance adjuster and sleep at night.

Speaker 5 (59:35):
I swear to God.

Speaker 6 (59:37):
I mean, if insurance companies just paid claims, just pay
your claims, you still make plenty of money you make.
Here's the thing I hate about insurance. I've said this before,
but this is very important.

Speaker 5 (59:50):
I get this out.

Speaker 6 (59:52):
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by increasing premiums or denying service. Do you understand most
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But my daughter started on Trzeppetide and they do these,
you know, they supply these for pennies on the dollar.
As you know, Mark is doing this for weight loss
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as we go. Dudley, let's talk about selling a car.

(01:01:50):
What is your question selling a car? I swear to God.
Selling a car nowadays, or selling anything is like entering
into the twilight zone.

Speaker 5 (01:02:00):
You get so many scammers. So what's going on with you?

Speaker 13 (01:02:05):
Yes, I'm looking for some advice. I'm looking to sell
maybe two cars, just you know, on the private market
to a private buyer. So if somebody wants to take
one of my cars to their mechanic and get it
checked out, I'm okay with that. But what kind of
insurance do I have They're going to kind of come
back with my own?

Speaker 5 (01:02:25):
No, No, I wouldn't let them do it at all.
I would do it.

Speaker 6 (01:02:29):
I would take it to their mechanic with them. I
would never ever, ever relinquish possession of that car. Do
you know that if you let if you gave them
the keys and let them take it to their mechanic,
they could claim they gave you a cash payment and
that you agreed to pay for whatever repairs needed to

(01:02:52):
be done, and then you would sell it for the
remaining bound. They could say anything they want, and much
like it used to be in the world of squatter,
you almost have to prove it's not true.

Speaker 5 (01:03:03):
Never ever, ever.

Speaker 6 (01:03:06):
Now I tell people this, never buy a car from
someone that won't let you get it checked out. But
I'm telling you, as a private party selling a car,
never let anyone take possession of the car.

Speaker 5 (01:03:19):
Ever. Don't let them go on a test drive alone. Ever.

Speaker 6 (01:03:24):
Don't do anything you know it's too bad, but we
are living living in a fallen world.

Speaker 5 (01:03:30):
Man.

Speaker 6 (01:03:30):
We're living where people will try to take advantage of
you as much as possible.

Speaker 5 (01:03:36):
So it's very easy. They make a time and.

Speaker 6 (01:03:39):
A date to get their car checked, and you go
over there, drive the car there and wait for them
to be done. If the mechanic says that it'll be
later today, then you come back later today. But you
never give the car to anyone else to do that.

Speaker 5 (01:03:57):
It's that, guys. Do you agree, Mark, Kevin, Jeff, Do
you guys agree? Dmitri? What do you think?

Speaker 7 (01:04:04):
Yeah, if you don't know the people, you can't trust
them because you can't even report it stolen because you gave.

Speaker 6 (01:04:09):
It to them.

Speaker 5 (01:04:10):
Yep, said exactly.

Speaker 6 (01:04:11):
It becomes a civil matter. What do you think, d
Have you sold any used cars? I?

Speaker 5 (01:04:17):
Yeah, I have.

Speaker 17 (01:04:18):
I mean all of my cars I've ever sold, I
sold them myself. But I never had to go through
this kind of a process. I just met the seller,
we agreed on the price, and I got a stack
of cash and I gave him the keys.

Speaker 5 (01:04:29):
Oh you never had somebody check a car out?

Speaker 6 (01:04:31):
Oh?

Speaker 17 (01:04:32):
I did only once, and we both drove to that mechanic.
So I was pressing but exact. And by the way,
that was in the days when you can still trust
many people. But nowadays, you know, God, things have changed.
People don't have the same morals they did fifteen twenty
years ago.

Speaker 5 (01:04:51):
You know, isn't it scary how things are changing? My god,
it's disappointing.

Speaker 17 (01:04:56):
You know, It's not scary because I think I can
protect myself against a lot of but yeah, yeah, God,
it's depressing. It's disappointing, and especially now that you know
I've been helping you with this radio show to hear,
you know, our calls and the scams and the ripoffs
and the scumbags that we hear about.

Speaker 5 (01:05:12):
Man, he just weighs down on me, right.

Speaker 6 (01:05:14):
And the top three over the last two years Number
one used cars being ripped off with used cars. Number
two contractors taking money doing little or no work. Number
three movers. Oh yeah, now I need to go into
my stats. I haven't gone to number four and five yet,
but I'll do that. Do you guys want to take

(01:05:37):
any guesses at what foreign I don't know. By the way,
I'm not asking like a trick question here, I don't
know what do you think would be Mark.

Speaker 5 (01:05:45):
What do you think Mark? For four stept away?

Speaker 17 (01:05:47):
But number four I would guess is underpaid insurance claims.
We get a lot of calls about underpaid insurance.

Speaker 6 (01:05:57):
You know what I'm gonna I'm putting that down as
one of my search terms, so I will look for that. Yeah,
you're right, that is something that might be in the
top five. I'm not sure, but we'll look for it.

Speaker 5 (01:06:12):
Okay, I was talking off the.

Speaker 6 (01:06:13):
Air, and I wanted to make sure my on air
audience and my podcast audience got it because this show
is converted to a podcast.

Speaker 5 (01:06:21):
Although it's a little awkward, but so one. I always say,
when you get screwed.

Speaker 6 (01:06:30):
In a car deal, if you're going to get screwed,
you get screwed twice, first with a car salesman and
second with the F and I department, which is financing
and insurance, And it should be called F should stand
for something else because that's what they do to you.

Speaker 5 (01:06:49):
But what they do is sell you all kinds of
add ons.

Speaker 6 (01:06:54):
And mop and glows and all of that. So here's
the deal. There's one thing. I would never buy anything
after market ever.

Speaker 5 (01:07:06):
Nothing.

Speaker 6 (01:07:07):
If I want to buy, I mean at the FNI department.
For example, if I wanted to buy something, I would
do it on my own. I would never go through
the dealer, but there was one. There are two coverages
that are not terrible. Now I know why dealers do
the first one prepaid service, because it guarantees them you

(01:07:27):
will be back. So there's nothing wrong with a prepaid service.
For example, on your thirty thousand on your thirty thousand
dollars thirty thousand mile check up, you prepay for that,
so when you go in, you don't pay anything. And
there's one other protection I definitely get. We'll talk about
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I'll buy prepaid service if I like the dealer. But
wheel protection, oh my god. They offered this for me
when I bought my Beamer for fourteen hundred dollars unlimited
wheel protection. You would pay fifty buck deductible and they
would fix or replace your wheel, whichever they decide. Right.

Speaker 5 (01:08:57):
I did not pay that.

Speaker 6 (01:08:59):
Fourteen hundred bucks, and within what was in mark four months,
I was spending twenty four hundred dollars getting two wheels fixed.

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Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
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Speaker 5 (01:10:05):
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Now, Tom Martine, Hi, Tom Martino here, Welcome to the show.
Three zero three seven one three talk seven one three
A two five five. Here to help you anyway we can.
That's what we try to do each end, every day.

Speaker 5 (01:10:23):
So welcome.

Speaker 6 (01:10:25):
And whatever we can do for you, you can do
it by calling us or texting us and giving us
information and then we.

Speaker 5 (01:10:34):
Go to work on it.

Speaker 6 (01:10:35):
We've had several cases I think that bear repeating, but
I do want to emphasize. I do want to emphasize
most of them are the consumer's fault.

Speaker 5 (01:10:48):
I don't like saying that, but it is. Think about
this a used car, Kevin, people.

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Speaker 5 (01:11:09):
And what I want to know is.

Speaker 6 (01:11:13):
What kinds of things do you find with pre buy inspections?
For God's sakes, why doesn't everyone do it? What?

Speaker 5 (01:11:23):
What does it really take?

Speaker 6 (01:11:26):
As far as a couple hours and tell us some
of the things you've discovered in cars, Just tell us
some of the ones that would have spelled terrible disaster
repair wise for the own the new owner.

Speaker 7 (01:11:41):
Well, a lot of the expensive ones actually the air
leaks depending on you know, head gaskets or remain oil seals,
things like that could be a couple of two three
thousand dollars to facts.

Speaker 6 (01:11:52):
Uh, And you've also found compression issues, compression found timing issues.

Speaker 7 (01:11:57):
Sometimes you get accidents that are unreported. You can tell
car's been in a wreck, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:12:02):
And you said something about seeing that a computer has
been reset is a red flag.

Speaker 7 (01:12:08):
Yep. Yeah, there's no reason to reset it unless you're
trying to clear codes. So you know, if the repair
has been done, so be it. But it has to
run through cycles to reset monitors in the computer before
you can can do that. So typically they're trying to
hide something if they cleared codes.

Speaker 5 (01:12:24):
When did these computers?

Speaker 6 (01:12:26):
I mean mostly every car you're going to buy out
there right now has the computer you can read with
the data reader, right.

Speaker 7 (01:12:32):
Yep, yeah, and one was the first, so it's been
out for a long long time.

Speaker 6 (01:12:37):
So this one tech says, Tom, I heard Kevin talking
about a pre by last week, and I have a
data reader.

Speaker 5 (01:12:45):
Why can't I just do that?

Speaker 1 (01:12:46):
Sure?

Speaker 5 (01:12:48):
Well, but Kevin, there's all kinds of reasons.

Speaker 6 (01:12:50):
Because it tells you where you once told me, it
tells you or Jeff said, it tells you where to look,
not what to do.

Speaker 7 (01:13:01):
Well, yeah, there's a lot in there. I mean, if
you're accustomed to reading what you're seeing on the scanner,
then yeah, you can't do it hour.

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
Over though typically the average person out on the game
that has that reader, those don't go as deep as
you'd necessarily want. Then we have customers come in and hey,
I pulled this code or two codes, and we'll end
up pulling up because we go through all of the
modules and we may come up with you know, twenty
thirty codes.

Speaker 5 (01:13:24):
Correct. Absolutely.

Speaker 6 (01:13:27):
Now, gasoline storage keeps coming up, so there's something called
stable later.

Speaker 5 (01:13:35):
Is that good for keeping?

Speaker 6 (01:13:37):
If you guys were going to have or Jeff a
hunting cabin, you had gasoline stored up there, what would
you put in the gasoline, you know, probably.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
Just some stable or something to that effect. You know,
it depends on how fast you're going to cost, how.

Speaker 6 (01:13:49):
Much the commercially available things would be fine.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
Sure one percent, but it also depends on you know,
a how how long is it going to take you
for you to go through that fuel? I mean, if
it's just going to be sitting up there for you know,
and you're gonna have to refill it every six months,
then I wouldn't bother.

Speaker 6 (01:14:03):
Okay, Okay, So how good is fuel without any kind
of treatment?

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
You know, it starts to break down after a year? Easy?

Speaker 5 (01:14:14):
Okay?

Speaker 6 (01:14:14):
Now, I got a text and a pick from someone
who has a Jeep and there was literally a lizard
that was welded onto his frame, and not a real lizard,
but a metal lizard.

Speaker 5 (01:14:33):
It was like, it's an Easter egg. Okay, And I
don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:14:36):
If Jeep's the only one doing them, and the whole
concept of Easter eggs, where did that come from?

Speaker 5 (01:14:43):
Does anyone know? Mark?

Speaker 6 (01:14:44):
Do you know?

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
It's just a novelty.

Speaker 5 (01:14:48):
Video games? At some point? I would guess that's interesting.

Speaker 6 (01:14:55):
So they had a they had an Easter egg, but
some of them were called half and some are called
easter eggs. Here's what I think the difference is. Correct
me if I'm wrong. A hack is something users discover
on their own to get around things or to you know,
kind of quote cheat. But an easter egg is put

(01:15:17):
there intentionally by the maker.

Speaker 5 (01:15:20):
And why do they do it? Is it just for fun?
And is Jeep the only one doing it?

Speaker 6 (01:15:26):
Apparently Jeep has a reputation for people finding all kinds
and they're usually reptiles, little lizards or frog or well,
I let's see, I'm trying to think some of the
ones people have.

Speaker 5 (01:15:42):
I would like to know is it is Jeep the
only one doing it?

Speaker 11 (01:15:46):
Do you know?

Speaker 5 (01:15:47):
Do you guys know?

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
Definitely not the only one doing it. And you actually
had one of your YouTube callers calling on this very
subject here about three or four months ago, and he
started rittling a bunch of them.

Speaker 5 (01:15:56):
Off Test has Easter eggs. I mean there's different manufacturers
as Chesla a ton of them.

Speaker 6 (01:16:04):
Like what.

Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
If you know the right code you can get into
model XMIS that would be one where your doors flap
like a I don't know, like a falcon and your
lights are.

Speaker 6 (01:16:16):
Alm Are you kidding? Me, and and it's it's done
right in production. Yes, okay, so that is I'm typing
an answer to this person. I don't think they're listening
right now, they said, but anyway, okay, so easter eggs
as part of production, does it ever include any kind

(01:16:41):
of added service or secret like that, any kind of
like because I remember one time, and I don't know
if they still do this.

Speaker 5 (01:16:51):
I knew a guy that had a Chevy truck.

Speaker 6 (01:16:55):
And he did not opt for the more expensive whatever
it was a pre amp or extra base, I don't
know what it was. But and those days you literally
opted for some upgrades and there was no upgrade on it.

(01:17:17):
He didn't buy it. In other words, he met a
Chevy tech one day. I'm not going to say who
that Chevy tech worked for, but he said, hey, you
want that low base or whatever the hell it was.
It was either base enhancement or pre amp or whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:17:34):
He dialed. The radio looked like a screen.

Speaker 6 (01:17:40):
It wasn't a touch screen back then, but they had
buttons underneath an alpha numeric keyboard for various things for
his GPS and all that.

Speaker 5 (01:17:50):
And he.

Speaker 6 (01:17:53):
Punched in a combination of numbers and it said preamp activated.

Speaker 5 (01:18:00):
So in other words, the guy had the hardware, and
the guy the.

Speaker 6 (01:18:08):
Tech explained to me that it would be too expensive
to make all of these units with just what people
want and what some other people don't want. So they
build them all to a certain spec and then activate
certain things based on what people pay for.

Speaker 5 (01:18:28):
Have you guys heard of that?

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
Oh yeah, and it still goes on today. Meant you
just have to go in through the computer to turn
stuff on. Yeah, And that's exactly what Tesla does. They
want to sell the subscriptions.

Speaker 7 (01:18:38):
Subscriptions I was going to stay, Yeah, you subscribe to
heated seats for example, or something like that.

Speaker 6 (01:18:42):
Yeah, Well, guess what Mark and I wants in our
in our crazy, crazy two and three in the morning
days at his Mountain Peak computer store.

Speaker 5 (01:18:56):
I had a bus at that time.

Speaker 6 (01:18:58):
This was our first four into RVs, and I had,
uh my first pray vobe was it a p It
was a big bus and it had this touch screen
and all this. And Mark says he watched when I
started up the coach and it booted like a Windows computer.

(01:19:20):
And he says, Tom, I think that this operating system
is Windows. And he says, and I think they just
put a nice face on it, and I did not
at the time opt for GPS.

Speaker 5 (01:19:34):
It was way expensive. Wait till I tell you what.

Speaker 6 (01:19:38):
Happened, because we did get the GPS, and we did
get a lot working. And then I'm going to tell
you there was almost a meltdown in Franktown that would
have or in Parker that could have put us through
to the other side of the earth.

Speaker 5 (01:19:51):
I'm going to talk to you about that and more
coming up.

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Speaker 5 (01:21:28):
All right, so we've been.

Speaker 6 (01:21:29):
Talking about a lot of stuff. First of all, gap
insurance people, let me let me explain this. Buy it
from your insurance company, not from a dealer ever. And
that includes credit Life, which, by the way, you should
never buy credit Life ever.

Speaker 5 (01:21:42):
You should just buy life insurance.

Speaker 6 (01:21:43):
Credit Life is stupid, it's diminishing coverage, it's not a
good deal.

Speaker 5 (01:21:49):
You overpay for it.

Speaker 6 (01:21:51):
So don't buy anything just for one particular loan. Look
at your insurance needs and buy insurance for your need,
which would include some of your loans and other things.
But never buy one insurance policy which would amount to
a term policy for one particular loan, which means you

(01:22:12):
have diminishing coverage as time goes on, but you pay
the same ridiculous premium. Don't buy credit life, don't buy
credit disability. Just buy regular insurance from your people. Now,
when you go to Compass Insurance to buy gap insurance,
they'll tell you the truth about gap. Gap insurance is

(01:22:32):
not stupid insurance. It's not to protect you from a
stupid purchase you made. If you overpaid for a card
drastically and your loan balance does not cover or excuse me,
the value of the card does not cover the loan balance,
and it's rare.

Speaker 5 (01:22:52):
To sell, and there's a big gap in there.

Speaker 6 (01:22:56):
Gap insurance only covers up to one one hundred twenty
five percent of value, but only when it comes to value,
not when it comes to your purchase price. If you
purchased a car for one hundred and twenty five percent
more than you should have paid, you don't have gap insurance.

Speaker 5 (01:23:19):
Gap insurance is very, very tricky.

Speaker 6 (01:23:22):
In fact, i'd like to I'd like to get Brian
Burns on real quick to make sure I'm not misrepresenting
that on exactly what it covers.

Speaker 5 (01:23:32):
I believe it covers one hundred twenty.

Speaker 6 (01:23:35):
Five percent of value, So if your car goes down
in value, they'll go the value of the car plus
an extra twenty five percent to cover the loan.

Speaker 5 (01:23:46):
But anything beyond that you owe.

Speaker 6 (01:23:50):
So we were talking about Easter eggs, which led to
a discussion about.

Speaker 5 (01:23:55):
Features built into cars.

Speaker 6 (01:23:58):
That are not active, but they're there because it would
be too expensive to manufacture cars with certain options for
certain inventory units, so they put all the options in
the inventory and activate the ones people pay for.

Speaker 5 (01:24:20):
Now.

Speaker 6 (01:24:21):
Mark one time was watching my motor home computer when
I was showing my motor home boot up, and he said, Tom,
that's Windows booting up. Then it went to this beautiful
custom screen that had a graphic representation of my graywater tank,
my blackwater tank, my fresh water tank, and also temperatures

(01:24:42):
and gauges and everything for the home part. Okay, And
he said it's running off a Windows computer. And we
looked up inside and he said, here's the motherboard. So
he had enough beers and it was late enough at

(01:25:03):
night that we wanted to start a brand new project.
So I believe it was a Friday night. We pulled,
he pulled, helped me pull the motherboard. We took it
over and we were at Mountain Peaks computer.

Speaker 5 (01:25:17):
He put it. He put it on our Mountain Peak computers.

Speaker 6 (01:25:21):
He put it on his bench, hooked up a monitor,
hooked up everything, and sure enough it fired up as.

Speaker 5 (01:25:28):
If we were in the coach.

Speaker 11 (01:25:30):
Right.

Speaker 6 (01:25:30):
It wasn't getting the sensors and stuff, but the program
was there. And he says, I'll be they did everything
on Windows, and he said, look at this, and we
saw a file I think it was a folder mark GPS,
and inside that folder was a full GPS program GPS right,

(01:25:55):
and it activated a GPS. So we looked all over
the coach to find the GPS and there was a
little tiny GPS like a bubble, little tiny or like
an oval shaped bubble on the top left exterior of
the coach.

Speaker 5 (01:26:14):
We followed the wire.

Speaker 6 (01:26:17):
It went down to that compartment and it was one
of the multiplugs that plugged into the motherboard, but it
wasn't activated on the motherboard. So we got things activated
and working on the motherboard perfectly. Where we had a
monitor under control circumstances, so we didn't have to.

Speaker 5 (01:26:39):
Fire up the coach to do it.

Speaker 6 (01:26:41):
It was basically exactly the way it would look once
we removed it and put it in the coach. But
they Mark, I forget what we did. But you know,
you altered the boot sequence and everything. So when we
fired it up, I had full GPS and I think
we even added some more stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:27:03):
We oh, I know what we did.

Speaker 6 (01:27:05):
We actually installed a GPS program. In other words, we
had the GPS capability. But you know GPS means nothing
unless you put it on a street map.

Speaker 5 (01:27:16):
So we were able to get that installed. Do you
remember this, Mark, do you am I bringing back? Now?
We had it working perfectly perfectly.

Speaker 6 (01:27:25):
It was the most perfect and I said, gosh, Mark,
if other bus owners knew this, what a wonderful thing.

Speaker 5 (01:27:33):
We took the motherboard out. You forgot a big part too.

Speaker 3 (01:27:36):
When we were when we were in the Mountain Peak
working on that, doing some of the upgrades before we
brought it back to the bus. You were about four
or five, Jack and Cox in right, I'm gonna tell
that part. I'm going to tell the part I call
it the coke syndrome. So we were we were perfect,

(01:27:57):
Everything was working perfectly.

Speaker 6 (01:27:59):
We were congratulating each other, saying, can you believe this?
You know that big marathon coach, that really expensive coach
has a motherboard from us, from a PC and it's
running windows to do all of its fancy crap.

Speaker 5 (01:28:15):
And so tell the rest of the story. Mark. When
we were pulling it off the board to put he
knocked over my me. I all remember meeting.

Speaker 3 (01:28:27):
Yeah, you were on your seventh or eighth Jack and Coke.

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
I've seen enough coachs on this table. I believe in Mark.

Speaker 5 (01:28:33):
Yes, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:28:34):
We know who knocks stuff over and who doesn't. So
his elbow or something hits my beer goes all over
the damn motherboard.

Speaker 5 (01:28:42):
And basically we had to start over. I mean, let's
just say what it was. Not only that. Now, listen
to what we had to do. Not just start over.
We had to put a new motherboard in it.

Speaker 6 (01:28:51):
So now Mark had to go back to his parts
department and look for a motherboard. And it had to
be a motherboard that would work right because it had
had the same inputs.

Speaker 3 (01:29:01):
Yeah, well it had that little tiny form factor.

Speaker 6 (01:29:05):
Yeah yeah, So we managed to find a motherboard and
did it a second time, but this time there was
no drinking allowed. But it had to have been three
thirty in the morning when we finally got it done.
Then came the really the fun part to install it
in the bus and to have that feeling of I

(01:29:29):
don't know what that feeling is when you when you
hack something or when you make it your own. It's
such a great feeling to be able to go in
and unlock something.

Speaker 5 (01:29:40):
So it is it really is.

Speaker 3 (01:29:42):
In fact, in that period of time that's probably late nineties,
actually probably mid nineties, the other thing I used to
do would be hacked those cable boxes. Man, that was
Oh that was insane. I felt, okay saying that, thinking
it's been thirty years. Somewhere somewhere a statute is run.

Speaker 6 (01:30:04):
Mark gives me this card one time and says, put
this in your satellite receiver, and I said, okay, so
it was the time that you inserted I forget what
it was.

Speaker 5 (01:30:17):
It was a chip or something. It's a little it's
a little credit card looking thing. Yeah, that's what it was.

Speaker 6 (01:30:24):
I went home and put it in my satellite receiver,
took the other one out, and when I turned it on,
everything and I mean everything.

Speaker 3 (01:30:37):
It was on a goal from every every network. If
you wanted to watch ABC New York and everybody, you
could do it, every pay, every view, every everything. There
was nothing that wasn't not allowed, not one thing.

Speaker 5 (01:30:52):
I mean everything.

Speaker 6 (01:30:53):
In fact, stuff I don't even know if the satellite
people knew was up there in the sky we were
pulling down.

Speaker 5 (01:31:00):
I mean it was amazing to me.

Speaker 6 (01:31:04):
And when I say everything, I mean if you were
into donkeys, you could see it.

Speaker 5 (01:31:10):
It was like back in the day. I'll tell you
what satellite back when it first came out.

Speaker 3 (01:31:18):
I don't recall any Donkey stations.

Speaker 7 (01:31:20):
So three o'clock in the morning's of weird stuff going on.

Speaker 5 (01:31:23):
Yeah, well just kidding about the donkeys. Just kidding about
the donkeys. But it was kind of my way of
saying there was over a thousand stations. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:31:34):
But so what happened was, after about let's say three months,
it just stopped working. And Mark said, well, what they
do is they change something so people don't pirate, and
then you have to get another pirate.

Speaker 3 (01:31:53):
You bar well, you got to reprogram it. They figure
out they just change it. I don't know how it's
to put it and then some one way smarter than
me creates a new program. But then I had the
equipment to take a card, pop it in and program
it with the new programming. Then it would work again
for X amount of time.

Speaker 6 (01:32:10):
Sus will tell you we were like two children when
it came to technology. I'll tell you one night what
we did. I'm gonna tell you what night, what we
did with a laser pen. I swear to god, it
was the most amazing thing, and it had no purpose
or meaning whatsoever, but we were able to do it.

Speaker 5 (01:32:29):
We have more coming right up.

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Speaker 5 (01:34:39):
So what does that mean?

Speaker 6 (01:34:42):
Well, police are starting to use AI to take accident
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Because there was such a big furor about it, people

(01:35:02):
were very upset that police would actually use AI. That AI,
when it's used by police, the programs insert nonsensical Easter
eggs throughout the report to make sure the officer reads each.

Speaker 5 (01:35:22):
And every word so they can edit out those Easter eggs.
Have you heard about that? Have you guys?

Speaker 6 (01:35:31):
Did you know that police are using AI right now?
In fact, AI is being used by everybody. I don't
know what's going to happen because AI goes by the
knowledge really of the Internet. If you think about it,
that's the only place he gets its knowledge. There's no
one that sits there and puts stuff into AI. You

(01:35:56):
put stuff on the Internet. It digests millions and millions
of data points all from the Internet. Though, So think
about this, if we are gathering from the Internet but
no longer listen to this now we're no longer putting
back into the Internet except the regurgitation of what's already there.

(01:36:21):
Where will new knowledge come from? Where will new discovery
come from? We still are dependent on people in order
to generate new content. If we did nothing, let's just say, theoretically,
if all we did was used AI artificial intelligence. Really,

(01:36:45):
all AI is is searching, gathering, regurgitation of existing knowledge.

Speaker 3 (01:36:53):
Yeah, but it comes to understand if you have a model,
it comes to understand kind of what you expecting, the
questions you ask. So it does kind of start becoming
almost kind of like a part of you. If you
literally log in and use your own model.

Speaker 6 (01:37:11):
No, that's right, And I know you use groco lot
and I use Chat. But here's what I'm saying, Mark,
If it gets information, Let's just look at the Internet
and its universe of information as a giant bucket. If
that giant bucket, we gather from it and make answers

(01:37:31):
based on it, and then more and more people they
do their discoveries, and they do their writings and their
research and put fresh stuff into the bucket. My concern is,
as we become more and more dependent on AI, we're
going to have less people putting fresh stuff in the bucket,

(01:37:55):
and it will simply be regurgitation of what we've already.

Speaker 5 (01:37:59):
Pulled out of the bucket.

Speaker 3 (01:38:00):
But the AI, you're not making the leaps that the
AI can actually do new things.

Speaker 5 (01:38:07):
No, it can. It can create new things.

Speaker 1 (01:38:10):
Well, there was a case just this year a team
that was actually already suicidal and was interacting with a
chatbot to kill himself, basically making.

Speaker 6 (01:38:22):
Yeah, I understand that, but it wasn't new. It was
regurgitated everything.

Speaker 5 (01:38:27):
Mark, I don't I guess I don't understand what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (01:38:30):
I don't think AI can originate a thought. You don't
think so I could simply groc. I can say, hey,
groc uh, it's our anniversary coming up, write my wife
a poem about our trip to Hawaii. Blah blah blah,
and then Bama does it. I mean I didn't do it.

Speaker 5 (01:38:49):
It did it. It didn't find it on the internet,
but it actually Susanne No, but it actually did. With
the large language model, it did. It finds the stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:39:03):
If you could say, write me a song, I mean,
how many music notes are there right here?

Speaker 5 (01:39:08):
Here's what I'm saying written.

Speaker 6 (01:39:10):
Here's what I'm saying, if you take any one of
those models and disconnect them and airlock them from the Internet,
you would have nothing, nothing, not even a poem to
your wife, except what's already been retrieved and regurgitated.

Speaker 5 (01:39:26):
What that would go with anything?

Speaker 3 (01:39:28):
If I cut off that's our supply to my house,
I'm not gonna have electricity.

Speaker 5 (01:39:33):
Mark Well, of course, that's what I'm saying. But think
about this though.

Speaker 6 (01:39:37):
If we generate electricity and then we use it in
our home, and let's say some of our home then
regenerates or reuses or recycle stuff. If we cut off
the fresh generation, eventually we run out of power.

Speaker 5 (01:39:54):
All I'm saying is knowledge in, knowledge out.

Speaker 6 (01:39:58):
If we just keep doing knowledge out, regurgitation and putting
that knowledge back in the same knowledge, we're not getting
fresh and new knowledge.

Speaker 5 (01:40:08):
It used to be that research, and it still is.

Speaker 6 (01:40:11):
Researchers that find new things publish their results on the internet.

Speaker 5 (01:40:16):
Everything is on the Internet.

Speaker 6 (01:40:18):
Eventually, without that new input, our information will get stale.
It will we won't have any new Why would you think, though,
it's not going to get to where you're saying it's
not right now? What makes you think AI is going
to simply sit in its present state forever.

Speaker 5 (01:40:40):
That's insanity. Well, no, I hope it doesn't.

Speaker 6 (01:40:44):
But all AI is doing right now is is regurgitating
existing knowledge. It doesn't come up with its own thought.
It's it's and it does a great job of it.
But if all I'm just saying, if we stopped generating
new stuff, then all we're.

Speaker 5 (01:41:05):
Going to have is is a system that is going
to be polluted. It's like a gene pool. If you
took the same gene pool over.

Speaker 6 (01:41:16):
And over and over and over, eventually there's no new
introduction of new traits and new features ENFA anyway. So yeah,
so AI would then become Arkansas Intelligence.

Speaker 5 (01:41:30):
We got more coming right up, Tom.

Speaker 6 (01:41:40):
Martino here three three seven to one three talk seven
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concept I was trying to make is literally known as
polluted information.

Speaker 5 (01:41:53):
I want to go to Brian Burns. We'll we'll discuss
that more in the next hour.

Speaker 6 (01:41:56):
I want to go to Brian Burns though on gap insurance, Brian,
I want to make sure, by the way, Compass Insurance
Group will do free insurance checkups to make sure you're covered.

Speaker 5 (01:42:05):
You're not paying too much, You're not under insured, and.

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have such Since it's car Day and we're discussing everything cars,
we have such a disconnect on what gap insurance is.

Speaker 5 (01:43:49):
First and foremost, gap insurance is.

Speaker 6 (01:43:52):
Supposed to this is what people have, right, but there
are conditions. Gap insurance pays the gap between what the
car is worth and what you get paid for it
versus what you owe on it. So if you're in
an accident and the car is totaled and you get

(01:44:14):
a check from the other person's insurance company and it's
not enough to pay off your car, gap is supposed
to cover it.

Speaker 5 (01:44:23):
Am I right? Is am I close? Brian?

Speaker 16 (01:44:27):
Yeah, But you usually see that in your own insurance obviously,
because gap insurance is something you purchase, not the other person.

Speaker 9 (01:44:34):
But yes, they could even step in in that case.

Speaker 16 (01:44:37):
But where you see it a lot of times is
when you're a faults in an accident and your loan
balance exactly like you said, is higher than the actual cash.

Speaker 11 (01:44:45):
Value of the vehicle.

Speaker 5 (01:44:47):
That's what it will pay.

Speaker 16 (01:44:48):
But there are limitations to it, let's hear them. You've
got some of the bigger ones that you have associated
with it is. It won't ever cover with negative equity
that you rolled into it.

Speaker 6 (01:45:03):
Like so if you if you rolled if you bought
a previous car and you traded it in and it
had ten thousand dollars of negative equity and it increased
your new loan by ten it's not going to cover
any previous negative equity exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:45:22):
It will not.

Speaker 16 (01:45:23):
So people sometimes get in trouble there thinking they kind
of found a way to make that go away if
there was an accident, But it doesn't. And it also
doesn't cover like extra fees that are rolled into a loan,
like you know, service contract or warranties like an extended warranty.
Those kind of things won't be covered by the gap.

(01:45:45):
It's truly just the balance of the vehicle, the actual
you know, the loan portion for the vehicle.

Speaker 6 (01:45:52):
What if you just, oh, okay, what if I bought
a Beamer because they'd appreciate a lot, and I own
a beam and I overpaid for it.

Speaker 5 (01:46:02):
I basically was stupid. I overpaid for it.

Speaker 3 (01:46:06):
Wait, wait, and if you'll start by saying what if, yes,
oh okay, shut up.

Speaker 6 (01:46:12):
Anyway, So what if I had a Beamer and a
loan and the loan was way more than the beamers
actually worth. What happens then if I just made a
bad purchase.

Speaker 16 (01:46:28):
So I mean, I guess it is to depend on
how bad we're talking about.

Speaker 6 (01:46:33):
Let's say there was no negative equity, but I made
a bad purchase. Isn't there simply a flat limit it
will go above?

Speaker 16 (01:46:40):
Okay, Yeah, that's a great point because it's not going
to really penalize you and say, oh, you purchased wrong.
It's still going it's going to look at that loan amount.
But almost every gap policy you're going to find is
going to have a limitation. It's usually somewhere between twenty
and twenty five percent. So that's how much they'll go over.

(01:47:01):
That's as much as they're going to pay as far
as the gap is concerned.

Speaker 6 (01:47:05):
So you're ensuring for an extra baby maybe at best
twenty five percent.

Speaker 16 (01:47:12):
Any but and the other thing that people don't realize.
I know this is common sense, but I'll say it anyways,
if you're putting a down payment on the car of
a you know, let's say more than twenty percent down payment,
you're probably already above what that difference is. You've already
kind of eliminated the need for gap.

Speaker 11 (01:47:31):
Does that you know what I mean?

Speaker 16 (01:47:32):
You don't really need it. And people will do it
all the time. They'll call me and say they're adding
a vehicle on and they'll say, okay, I want to
get GAP coverage. And I'll say just just asking, okay,
how much did you put down? And you know, they're like, well,
I put thirty percent down, and I said, I don't
want to take your bunny, and I'm trying not to
charge you for things.

Speaker 6 (01:47:49):
That you So I guess I don't understand that completely.
So let's go back to the Beamer situation. So let's
say let's say and.

Speaker 5 (01:47:58):
I'm just using these numbers out of that they're not real.

Speaker 6 (01:48:01):
But let's just say one hundred grand Beamer and I
put down thirty thousand.

Speaker 5 (01:48:07):
Why can't I get GAP insurance?

Speaker 16 (01:48:10):
Well you can, But now you're saying that your loan
amount is seventy thousand, right, So the main purpose of
loan gap is to make up the difference between what
you owe on your loan and the actual cash vehicle,
the actual cash value of the vehicle.

Speaker 1 (01:48:25):
So often a.

Speaker 16 (01:48:26):
Lot, you usually have a bigger you know, that's where
your biggest.

Speaker 6 (01:48:30):
Okay, So what you're saying is what you're saying is
if you buy a lot of equity in the car
to begin with, yeh, the chances of having a gap.

Speaker 5 (01:48:40):
Or are nil.

Speaker 16 (01:48:41):
That's right, because then you're making monthly payments which are
slowly reducing that amount. Anyways, you've already started off the
bag by kind of getting d.

Speaker 14 (01:48:50):
Of that depreciation because you put thirty percent down.

Speaker 6 (01:48:54):
Okay, So gap would be for someone who puts a
modest amount of money down and slightly overpays for the car.

Speaker 5 (01:49:02):
If we really had to summarize it, yeah, or or.

Speaker 16 (01:49:06):
Just a former let's say you know, you know a
lot of people finance it almost all the way. And
if you think, man, if something happens, my car is
already dropped in value by fifteen thousand dollars, well, gap insurance,
that's what it's for. It's just I just want people
to be aware that it's not for everybody, and gap.

Speaker 6 (01:49:24):
Insurance the need for it goes away the older the
vehicle gets, right, as long as you're paying on your loan.

Speaker 16 (01:49:30):
In other words, let's say something this would be abnormal.
I understand that someone gets an eighty four month lease, Well,
your depreciation is probably outpacing the amount you're paying off
on my car, So I guess there would still be
a need in that situation because your depreciation is much greater.
But in general, you have a loan and you put

(01:49:53):
a healthy amount down if I say probably twenty percent
or more, you pretty much alleviate the need for gap.

Speaker 6 (01:50:01):
Okay, Now, next question, do you get gap on a lease?
Can you get a gap insurance on lease?

Speaker 5 (01:50:09):
You can? You can.

Speaker 16 (01:50:10):
It's basically the same concept, other than you're not owning
the car, but you are bound by a leaf. You
have agreed to make a payment on a lease, and
so if your car gets totaled and you have to
continue to making this you know, this monthly payment that
you only get in a certain amount from the car,
it's the same concept. It will make up that gap
with the same restrictions.

Speaker 1 (01:50:31):
What's right.

Speaker 16 (01:50:31):
It's not going to pay for anything turried over, and
it's not going to pay for anything else that you
purchased on top.

Speaker 6 (01:50:38):
Yeah, thank you very much, Brian Burns for your free
insurance checkup is three oh three nine nine six nine
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something because you know, really, if you think about it,
a bad purchase. The only way you're going to get
out of a bad purchase. The only way, well, there's

(01:51:01):
a couple ways. First, find a bigger idiot than you
were to buy it for what you owe. Or two,
drive it until you pay it off. That is the
most sensible thing. The thing that gets people in trouble
is when they want a new car but they still

(01:51:25):
owe a ton on their old car and they roll
negative equity into the new car.

Speaker 5 (01:51:33):
That is the road to nowhere. So what is the solution?
You keep the bad decision and the bad deal you made.
The best way to get out of a bad deal
is to pay your dues on it, learn from it,
and move on. John, you have a question on fluids.

(01:51:54):
What's going on with you?

Speaker 6 (01:51:55):
John?

Speaker 14 (01:51:58):
Yeah, pump?

Speaker 5 (01:51:58):
Can here be okay? I can hear you? Find sir?

Speaker 14 (01:52:02):
Okay?

Speaker 6 (01:52:02):
Good.

Speaker 14 (01:52:02):
I had a little disconnect with Curia screen. But anyway, Well,
I have a street road that I'm a building and
it has a new engine or a rebuilt engine and aluminum.
Great here. I was going to ask you guys what
they recommend for what.

Speaker 5 (01:52:18):
Kind of an engine is in it?

Speaker 14 (01:52:21):
Chevy three fifty and what years?

Speaker 6 (01:52:24):
I see this it's a nineteen thirty three pickup, but
that's not a nineteen thirty three engine, right.

Speaker 14 (01:52:29):
No, exactly exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:52:32):
Wow, where'd you find the pickup? I'm just curious.

Speaker 14 (01:52:36):
It was an encourage in Colorado?

Speaker 5 (01:52:39):
What did you pay for it?

Speaker 14 (01:52:42):
Too much? I'm learning from my mistakes?

Speaker 3 (01:52:44):
As you said, well, it's a ninety two year old vehicle,
right right?

Speaker 6 (01:52:52):
My god, I mean think about that, a ninety two
How is the body in good shape it is now?

Speaker 5 (01:53:03):
And what how much do you have into the entire thing?
As of right?

Speaker 6 (01:53:06):
I was going to ask that Mark. He took it
right out of my mouth. It's so beautiful, though, God,
it's so beautiful.

Speaker 5 (01:53:18):
What condition was it in when you got it? Original condition?

Speaker 14 (01:53:22):
Basically original?

Speaker 5 (01:53:23):
Yeah, nobody screwed it up?

Speaker 14 (01:53:27):
Well, I mean it didn't have the original engine in it.
It was a later model, but it was It was
basically original, but it needed work like anything.

Speaker 6 (01:53:37):
That is right, We're going to talk about it. Just
hang on, I got to take this break. We'll come
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Speaker 5 (01:54:29):
So the question on this nineteen thirty three.

Speaker 6 (01:54:33):
Chevy pickup with a new engine, John welcome, Yes, Hello, Yes,
how can we help you?

Speaker 5 (01:54:43):
What is your question for us today?

Speaker 14 (01:54:46):
Well, my question is what type of anti freeze coolant
to put in it? I didn't know what the guys
recommend as a generic press stoner that specialty.

Speaker 5 (01:54:56):
What kind of engines in it?

Speaker 12 (01:54:57):
Now?

Speaker 7 (01:54:58):
Oh, it's a three fifty's got aluminum rate, But most
cars anymore are aluminum based anyway, so most any anti
freezers out there right now, that's just fine.

Speaker 1 (01:55:06):
Oh, I mean you just use the universal that goes
either gold colored one.

Speaker 7 (01:55:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:55:11):
Keep in mind he's asking about a nineteen thirty three
Chevy pickup.

Speaker 1 (01:55:14):
It does not have a nineteen thirty three power plant.

Speaker 7 (01:55:16):
No, right, it's an upgraded motor. Oh it is.

Speaker 1 (01:55:19):
Yeah, so but I mean, you know, and then you know, Mom,
Frid and change that that ana freeze out from time
to time because aluminum will corrode. You know, you'll get
electrolysis from the the ana freeze when it gets contaminated,
and it will tear apart that aluminum. So you can
probably every couple of years swamp that stuff out.

Speaker 7 (01:55:35):
Yeah, some of the toad in Honda and freeze, the
Blue and the Pink have a little higher level of additive.
You may go a little a little bit with that direction.

Speaker 14 (01:55:44):
Okay, so just a general press doone to be okay?

Speaker 1 (01:55:47):
Sure?

Speaker 7 (01:55:49):
Yeah, And I guess that the better the group would
be the the Blue or the pink, which is the
Honda or the Toyota. They have a lot better additive
packages in them.

Speaker 3 (01:55:59):
Okay, great, what do you guys do for bulk these days? Like,
I'm sure you have a fifty gallon drummer?

Speaker 7 (01:56:04):
Now, Well, the bulk is a gold which is pretty
much a universal, and then we have about ten other
cool so it's.

Speaker 3 (01:56:10):
Like ninety percent of cars that come in or that gold. Yes,
is there a green anymore?

Speaker 7 (01:56:15):
As soon as yeah, the greens, the high silica, and
then the still the orange for the GM, the blue
for the Honda, the pink for the Toyota. There's a
bunch of different ones.

Speaker 11 (01:56:28):
Now.

Speaker 6 (01:56:30):
Somebody says, Tom, I burn seafoam in everything I drive,
every gas powered machine I have in my garage, including
my weed whacker. I put seafoam in my car oil
as well. It's crazy how clean it keeps everything.

Speaker 5 (01:56:52):
What do you guys think? I mean, why haven't we
talked about this more?

Speaker 1 (01:56:57):
Well, it's it's been around forever a lot of people,
you is it? I mean, particularly you know in the
commercial market, we actually just prefer BEG products.

Speaker 5 (01:57:07):
Okay, does BG have a comparable product.

Speaker 1 (01:57:13):
It's similar, You've had similar products, But I mean it's
not like, uh, you know the cphone, where you would
want to put the same additive for the fuel into
the engine oil. They are different products, but we're trying
to achieve different purposes.

Speaker 5 (01:57:24):
Okay, no offense, guys. To me, it looks like snake oil.

Speaker 3 (01:57:27):
It says, it cleans injectors, it cleans carb jets, It
stabilizes the fuel, it's got moisture controlled quiet, it quiets
your car, cleans, deposits out, lubricates it and de ices
and anti gels as well. I mean it sounds like
if you put this in your engine will last forever.

Speaker 1 (01:57:49):
Well, certainly not going to last forever, but it has
capabilities to do all those things.

Speaker 6 (01:57:55):
Has it ever been tested? I mean obviously it must
have been tested.

Speaker 7 (01:57:59):
There are some products in there you probably don't want
to use in fuel injection, you know, with different things
they get like mineral oil. They do have some isoproble
alcohol with some cars are not fond of. So it's
it's an older school carburetor, you know, heavy engine type
treatment as opposed some of the newer stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:58:16):
And will it interfere like like I'm with Mark, he says,
how do you use it in both the gas and
the oil? I mean it seems weird. Isn't that one
of the few additives that you can think of? Or
maybe STP you do both? Right?

Speaker 1 (01:58:34):
No, I don't know CP and a gas and you're
not gonna want to do that? Want to do?

Speaker 5 (01:58:38):
Okay?

Speaker 7 (01:58:40):
I think you're right though, it's not a one size
fits all. You got to be careful what you use.

Speaker 5 (01:58:46):
And and BG products are available for.

Speaker 7 (01:58:48):
Everyone, right, yeah, yes they are.

Speaker 5 (01:58:51):
I mean so it's it's not like you have to
go to a mechanic to get it, you are, they
just break out.

Speaker 7 (01:58:57):
You could go on eBay or Amazon. You know that's
where Dmetri gets his on Amazon.

Speaker 17 (01:59:03):
Yeah, Tom, I just went through two treatments of BG
fuel Treatments or fuel system Cleaner at both chefs and
Kevin's recommendation, and uh man, I got that stuff from
Amazon delivered to.

Speaker 1 (01:59:14):
Me for just twenty dollars a can. So that's a
good deal.

Speaker 3 (01:59:17):
Sounds like forty four K. Then that's the one. That's
the one you know the funny, kay guys? That is
that same price point that it's been for twenty years.
I mean, really, it's crazy. It's still it was only
twenty bucks. Yeah, it was twenty bucks delivered and in
a four package. What's it like it nappened now twenty
five bucks maybe?

Speaker 7 (01:59:36):
Yeah, pretty clo twenty two, twenty four or something in there.

Speaker 3 (01:59:39):
That's the same thing I was buying that stuff for
twenty years ago.

Speaker 5 (01:59:42):
That's crazy.

Speaker 6 (01:59:43):
Yeah, Okay, here's the question mark and I think I
know the answer.

Speaker 5 (01:59:47):
I mean I do know the answer.

Speaker 6 (01:59:49):
They want to know the liquid loan that we talk about,
or the all in one loan by CMG. They want
to know if it's FDIC bank. Of course it is, right,
I mean it's it's federally insured. Yeah, they're a legit bank, Yeah,
real it, legit real bank. Yeah, of course. And John

(02:00:10):
is a great guy for using it. Anyway, So a
lot of people are complaining about Assessoride not being able
to get access anymore for their road.

Speaker 3 (02:00:22):
It's going to get It's going to get way worse
before it gets better, no doubt.

Speaker 5 (02:00:28):
Okay, Now, next thing I want to talk about.

Speaker 6 (02:00:33):
Years ago, there were there there was an offer in
the back of almost every comic book, and it was
a complete ripoff and no one ever got in trouble.
In fact, there were two ads. One was not a ripoff,
but it killed a lot of people. Another one was

(02:00:55):
a complete ripoff because you could.

Speaker 5 (02:00:59):
Not see through women's dresses as they promised.

Speaker 6 (02:01:03):
Do you remember the damn ad in the back of
comic books for X ray glasses?

Speaker 5 (02:01:08):
Does anyone remember.

Speaker 3 (02:01:09):
That still Mark still waiting for his I don't remember
him in comic books I remember him in what the
heck was that magazine?

Speaker 5 (02:01:19):
That mad magazine. No, Dmitri's killing me in here, did
you know?

Speaker 11 (02:01:28):
Tom?

Speaker 3 (02:01:29):
Just out of curiosity that Dmitri has his own unique
smell scent.

Speaker 1 (02:01:34):
That's a signature mark.

Speaker 5 (02:01:37):
Where did you have that made? Where do you have
it made? Back?

Speaker 8 (02:01:45):
He puts it in his fountain pen, Tom, like just
a little drop in his ink to make it smell good.

Speaker 17 (02:01:54):
Come on, that's how the bank knows somebody did not
forge my signaturelling your chack.

Speaker 5 (02:02:04):
Anyway.

Speaker 6 (02:02:04):
The x ray the X ray glasses. Do you remember them?
They were called X ray glasses. They were out and
out ripoffs, and the FTC never did anything about it.

Speaker 5 (02:02:17):
Mm hmm, comp chase Tom trying to get us. But
here's what I find shocking.

Speaker 6 (02:02:30):
They actually advertised the way they advertised it in the
ad was a guy looking with the glasses at a
woman's dress, and then it had that little outline of
her underneath the dress.

Speaker 5 (02:02:44):
I mean, does am I am I lying? Or am
I dying?

Speaker 11 (02:02:47):
Did I?

Speaker 6 (02:02:47):
Did you do you have?

Speaker 5 (02:02:48):
Do you remember that at all?

Speaker 10 (02:02:49):
Dies?

Speaker 17 (02:02:50):
He described the ad perfectly, Tom, And there's yeah, it's
and his eyes are getting really big in amazement.

Speaker 5 (02:02:57):
Exactly do you imagine?

Speaker 6 (02:03:00):
Could you imagine if anyone advertise see through a woman's.

Speaker 5 (02:03:05):
Dress right now with your X ray glasses?

Speaker 1 (02:03:08):
And according to AI, however, they said that there was
a disclaimer on there. They said it created the illusion
of X ray vision in small print.

Speaker 5 (02:03:17):
How the heck would it do?

Speaker 6 (02:03:18):
That?

Speaker 1 (02:03:20):
Says you don't have that revision, You wouldn't know the difference.

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(02:04:29):
Someone has a question if you're familiar with Zeus fasteners.

Speaker 5 (02:04:37):
Anybody zue my head off, top my head. No, it's
spelled dzus. Now.

Speaker 6 (02:04:45):
I know they're pretty common in aviation, but did not
know they were used in cars.

Speaker 5 (02:04:52):
But they're not used in regular production cars.

Speaker 6 (02:04:55):
This is a hot rod that he bought and he
has to replace the zoos fasteners. They're quarter turn fasteners,
so in other words, they stay in place, but you
quarter turn them out. A spring pops them out. You
lift the cowling from the from the hot rod.

Speaker 5 (02:05:17):
You know, you do what you need to do.

Speaker 6 (02:05:18):
When you put it back, you do quarter turn either
wing nut or wingscrew or wing stud or you can
have a you can have a phillips or a straight slot,
but it's a quarter turn. Ring any bells to anyone
or you haven't been around that?

Speaker 1 (02:05:36):
Yeah, No, definitely seen them before. There's not really wide
to use an automotive now, not unless it's on something
like you're talking about.

Speaker 6 (02:05:43):
There, okay, and is there really I don't know if
I should even ask this, But is there a store that,
like an auto part store for like people who do
custom stuff like this?

Speaker 5 (02:05:57):
I mean, where do people get parts? Is it always
the internet was on?

Speaker 1 (02:06:02):
I would say, if there's any place in town that
might have something like that, it'd be odd For on
Track over in Englewood. What is it called on Track?

Speaker 5 (02:06:12):
And what do they have over there?

Speaker 6 (02:06:13):
Do you know?

Speaker 1 (02:06:14):
I mean they specialize in some of the more high
performance parts, miscellaneous things, miscellaneous fluids. So and if they
don't have it, they'd ordered in for you. But if
they're going to get ordered in, your chances are you
can buy yourself online for cheaper, and you're gonna buy
it any more brick and mortar store.

Speaker 6 (02:06:30):
And here's somebody else that said finding a nineteen thirty
three pickup is unbelievable, and it's almost now. You hear
about these rare barn finds and all of that, but
this one Texter says, it's practically impossible to find projects

(02:06:52):
like this anymore.

Speaker 5 (02:06:53):
Go to projects, what's that, go.

Speaker 1 (02:06:55):
Out to farmland. They're all over the place.

Speaker 7 (02:06:57):
Yeah, they're all over the place in the Midwest. Still, absolutely, what.

Speaker 5 (02:07:03):
Did they do? They just park him out back and
left him there.

Speaker 7 (02:07:06):
Yeah, sometimes the barn collapses. Some of these old timers,
they just build a new barn. Oh, come on you,
you'd be amazed.

Speaker 17 (02:07:17):
You have really nice barn find stories from your years
in business or you. Yeah, I know you're not restoration shops,
so that's I'm not surprising.

Speaker 1 (02:07:27):
Like we're talking before. I mean, like you know, we've
had some of that stuff come through.

Speaker 8 (02:07:30):
You know.

Speaker 1 (02:07:31):
My favorite one that I ever worked on was an
old thirty two Hudson.

Speaker 5 (02:07:34):
Wow.

Speaker 17 (02:07:34):
So that was that was a lot of fun, and
that was a typical barn find. Somebody just found.

Speaker 1 (02:07:39):
Out to him it was his teenage car that he
had learned to drive on, and then now that he
was at the age that he could actually fix it
up the way he wanted it when he was a teenager,
we were participating in that work with him.

Speaker 5 (02:07:53):
Very cool, all right.

Speaker 6 (02:07:55):
Since our discussion on this permanent LED lighting for your home,
I've had a few questions, Mark, since you're the only
one among us right now who's actually had it done
at his house.

Speaker 5 (02:08:07):
I'm having mine done, but not yet. It'll be done
in a few days. But what is the source of power?

Speaker 6 (02:08:16):
What is that?

Speaker 12 (02:08:17):
Mark?

Speaker 6 (02:08:17):
It's their led.

Speaker 5 (02:08:18):
I mean it just plugs in. I mean it's like
it just plugs into a normal round. It must have it,
it must have it.

Speaker 6 (02:08:24):
It's low voltage, no doubt, twelve vault, but it has
a transformer probably that plugs in. Right.

Speaker 3 (02:08:29):
Yeah, it's in our garage.

Speaker 5 (02:08:31):
It just plugs into anything.

Speaker 3 (02:08:33):
It's got a little box the size of like an
old school dictionary, and they hang that on the wall
and then basically the lights start and end at that point,
and they generally run the power and the lights up
through the attic that would typically be in a garage.
They find a place to basically hide it. But the
box itself size of a dictionary. And then it's just

(02:08:54):
got a regular one ten three prong plug in and
then you connect it to your WiFi. And the part
I learned today. In fact, I don't even know if
the guys that Excel know this. You can download so
many different generic apps for it, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (02:09:10):
I mean, if you mean like.

Speaker 6 (02:09:11):
Apps that do it automatically for you, you don't have
to come up with the patterns or anything.

Speaker 1 (02:09:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:09:16):
A lot of them have, Yes, a lot of them
have stuff like that, but some of them are way
easier to use the guy. The interface is a lot better.
So I mean there's multiple choices. I mean the guys
that Excel will come out and put the one. Yeah,
they'll put the one on there that they know, and
they'll load it up for you and they'll show it
to you. They do all that and it's really easy

(02:09:36):
to learn. But my point is if you want something
where someone else went out and did a lot of
custom stuff for let's say the Broncos or a lot
of custom stuff for Halloween or something, even though when
the app they give you Halloween's probably got you know,
a thousand different things. But my point is you can
find other stuff out there.

Speaker 5 (02:09:57):
Somebody also wants to know. Is the brightness adjustable? Oh yeah,
the brightness is adjustable. You can do different effects. They
can be running lights, twinkling, blinking is a glittery. It's
all kinds of music.

Speaker 3 (02:10:16):
That would I think you could probably add on something
that listens and does that, but I don't know what
that would be. But I'm kind of starting to understand
the product, and it's very open sourced, so I would
assume you could buy something and do that, but I don't.

Speaker 5 (02:10:34):
It doesn't come with it now party at the majors.
So are there people and is there mood lighting? For example?

Speaker 6 (02:10:41):
You can put on that maybe a baije or a
white that you use all the sure can if.

Speaker 3 (02:10:47):
You can imagine it and you've got the right app
and know what you're doing, you can do it.

Speaker 5 (02:10:52):
I mean, no problem. It's just really cool.

Speaker 3 (02:10:55):
And the fact you can't see it, I mean really,
that's the selling point to this. You never got to
get up on that ladder again. We've all done that,
you know. Clark Griswold took them four days to get
those lights up and they didn't work. Well, now you've
got a permanent solution. They're just kick ass. They're absolutely
kick ass.

Speaker 5 (02:11:12):
Oh yeah, it sounds like you'll.

Speaker 3 (02:11:14):
Be able to find my house a lot easier now
when you fly out. Just tell me, tell me to
put on blinking red lights or whatever you want.

Speaker 5 (02:11:21):
That's funny. Now, by the way, is there any way
that Hoa's this is what they want to know?

Speaker 6 (02:11:27):
Can outlaw these things basically and say we don't want them,
maybe because they think they're tacky or something. You can
that's me sing And somebody wanted to ask do they do?
You have to get HOA approval. Well, that depends on
the HOA folks, Yeah it does.

Speaker 3 (02:11:42):
And then we had a guy called yesterday when I
was talking about him, He's like, I can't stand him
in our neighborhood. These people will put them on in
there bright and they keep me up. It's like, well,
you know, I'm sure those same jerks own a stereo.
They can always put up regular Christmas lights and do
the same thing. So some people don't like them because
their neighbors are. But that's what I call a jerky

(02:12:02):
neighbor that's got nothing to do with the lights, all right.

Speaker 6 (02:12:06):
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