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Is the Troubleshooter Show now, Tom Martine, Hey, hey.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Hey, Tom Martino. Here, My goodness, gracious, I have a
studio full of people here, plus deputy Doc back at
the flagship. So welcome to the show. Three oh three
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If you happen to be streaming the show, we are.
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(01:09):
to upload videos they are. Is it working? Yeah, it's
working great, Okay, explain so you can price something, by
the way, without going there looking at the video. I mean,
there's no magic any more. To home improvements. I mean,
there might be a few alterations here or there, but
mainly if they give you a video from the cell
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(01:31):
or roughed in area in the basement where the pipes
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get complicated, especially when we're moving walls.

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But yeah, but you might want to call them, but
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back at the studio, I believe. So that's good because
I couldn't fit one more person here if I had

(02:12):
to three oh three seven one three talk. I'm gonna
go to the phones, right now I'm going to talk
to deb Debbie wants to talk about social Security. Hi, Debbie,
what's going on with you?

Speaker 6 (02:25):
We're getting a little static. Well, the quick version, as
quick as possible. Four years ago, I went to Social
Security and applied for the wife's benefits.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Okay, so hold on, so how old are you?

Speaker 6 (02:39):
Oh? God, seventy?

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Okay, So you went to apply for wives benefits because
your husband died.

Speaker 6 (02:48):
No, you can get it if you've been married ten years.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Oh that's right. No, that that's right. That's right. If
you were married ten years to someone and you're an
ex wife, you can get up to the spouse benefit.
That's right.

Speaker 6 (03:02):
Yeah, I guess that's what it's called. Anyway, I have
the equivalent of PARA. Okay, so basically I don't have
any of my own Social Security. Okay, it's and I
get benefits from PARA and then the Alaska state all
right away. Four years ago, I went in and I applied,

(03:26):
sat in the little back room and the guy did
all the paperwork. And I do not remember if he
didn't ask or they didn't have it, I don't know,
but they didn't have my pensions from Alaska because I
worked up there for a long time.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Now, Now, when you say Alaska, was that the para
you're talking about? Or is that in addition.

Speaker 6 (03:45):
To para, it's the equivalent of a para of Paris.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Okay, So it's not para, it's just did you work
in the Alaskan school system?

Speaker 6 (03:55):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (03:55):
I did?

Speaker 6 (03:56):
Okay anyway, Okay, So anyway, that information did not get
into my application four years ago. Okay, there, so.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Where were they? Okay, keep going then, go ahead anyway,
So a.

Speaker 6 (04:11):
Couple of months ago I get a actual bill from
Medicare okay, And then the beginning of this month, I
get a note saying that I owe the Social Security
folks twenty seven thousand dollars because of they paid me.
What's double dipping or something like that. I got paid

(04:32):
that little bit of Social Security and my pension from Alaska.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Okay, Well, okay, how much were you getting from Social Security?

Speaker 6 (04:41):
Oh? I write a verse four hundred and something at
the end five hundred and a little bit over.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
You're not and that was about That was about okay.
But it is possible to receive But here's the problem.
It is possible to receive spousal benefits from Social Security
even if you are on PARA not as long as
they offset it, it reduced. Hold on, let me explain this.

(05:08):
They may I'm reading this now because I just looked up.
They may reduce the spousal or survival benefit, but you
could receive both. The way they apply the formula, if
you receive a pension from Alaska or PARA or anything
like that, based on the work you did and did

(05:28):
not pay Social Security at the time, it reduces your
Social Security spousal benefit by two thirds of the pension amount.
So they would take two thirds of your pension, subtract
it from your spousal benefit, and then they multiplied it
by forty eight months. Is that what they did to
get what you owe?

Speaker 6 (05:49):
I don't know about the forty eight months.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
You said four years you've been getting spousal benefits.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Right, yes, yes, okay, you're going.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
To what they did. They're going to take your spousal
benefits that you've gotten and they're going to reduce it
by two thirds of the pair you've gotten for that
period exactly. And that's what you're going to owe. And
how much do they say you're going to owe?

Speaker 6 (06:17):
Twenty six dollars?

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Okay, now, here is the bad news I owe and no, no,
because why bother lying to you? Right that the bad
news is this? And you brought it up so I
know what's on your mind. I know what's on your mind,
and it should be because everyone thinks this way. You said,
I applied for spousal benefits four years ago and they

(06:43):
did not pick up on my pension that I had,
even though I told them, and now I owe this money.
The fact that they did not pick up on it
actually what the courts and the government look at this
as is not as if you were harmed. They actually say,
wait a minute, you had free use of this money
for four years that you shouldn't have had to begin with.

(07:04):
You're looking at it as a debt that you shouldn't have.
But let me ask you straight up, do you believe
And I understand, by the way, I'm not some kind
of ultra rich guy that says, wait a minute, you know,
just give them money back. I mean, I realize when
we get money, we spend it, and we spend accordingly,

(07:25):
and we make a budget accordingly. But is your contention
the fact that they did not pick up on this
pension from Alaska is that they should discount it at
this point and you should keep that money.

Speaker 6 (07:39):
I look at as they didn't pick up where the
guy wasn't doing.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
It here, So it was their mistake. They should eat it.
Is that what you're saying. It's their mistake, they should
eat it. Yes, the government, the irs pensions. No one
looks at it. No one looks at it that way.
In fact, they look at it just the opposite. What
they say is had they caught it, you would have
been getting that much less for those many years you've

(08:04):
gotten free use of that money. That's how they look
at it. So it's just the opposite of what you're
looking at. You know, this brings up a color TV.
I want to tell you about a color TV, my
first color TV. I was a young guy working in
TV and radio years and years and years ago, and

(08:25):
I bought a TV from Sears on my charge card
and it was back then. A color TV back then
was very expensive, three hundred dollars and that was a
big expenditure for me. There's a reason I'm telling you this, Debbie,
And so I get they forgot to put it when
I used my charge card. I didn't show up on
my bill for a year and a half or two years.

(08:47):
And I was devastated because I was paying all my bills.
And I thought, wait a minute, it was like a
new bill, even though it was an old bill. And
it is, and I learned a lesson. I said, well,
wait a minute, your mistake. You didn't build me. Well,
I should not have to owe this. I mean, and
I know what you're saying, but you do owe it.
Now I want to know, is are they willing to

(09:08):
reduce social Security a bit over many many months in
order to let you.

Speaker 6 (09:15):
Pay I can do that.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yes, that's okay. In other words, here's what the general rule.
Here's what the general rule usually is in a court
of equity, usually, I say, or with electric bills, where
you've underpaid electric bills or utility bills. The general rule is,
however long it took them to discover it is, how

(09:41):
long you get to pay it?

Speaker 6 (09:45):
Okay, they don't tell you that, but yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
That Well, it's not a law. It's more or less
what a Solomon philosophy and what a judge might do
if ever it went to court. So what are they
proposing that you? How are they proposing you pay it?

Speaker 6 (10:06):
I pay it back within thirty days. Oh come on,
I can't. No, that's what it says. Yeah, sure, or
I can make payments and I can put it on
my credit card.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
What are the payments are they proposing? If you made them,
will they reduce your socials series? Did they take away
your spousal benefit completely right now?

Speaker 6 (10:27):
Yes? Yes, And the reason was is because that little
math problem math situation you're talking about. I'm making more
than the two third number or whatever I know. Yeah,
any way, and I started getting bills for my Part B.
Yeah anyways.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Well, you're always going to have to pay hold on.
You will always have to pay for Part B, whether
or not. It doesn't matter if you had power or
not that you would always You were never billed for
Part B.

Speaker 6 (11:00):
I was taken out of at first.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Oh I get it, I get it. It was taken out
of the Listen. Here's the bottom line. Can you propose
to them that you get your benefit as usual, not
as usual, the new benefit amount, and then you'll make
monthly payments to them instead of taking away all of
your spousal benefits, correct the amount the way it should

(11:24):
have been for the last four years, and then let
you just make separate payments.

Speaker 6 (11:30):
I don't know, because actually I would be getting nothings.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Well wait a minute, are your spousal benefits so low
that if you subtract two thirds of your pension it's nothing.

Speaker 6 (11:45):
The spousal benefits? Yes, correct, okay, literally the max.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah, Debbie, that that means one of two things. I'm serious,
You're not going to get it, or you should have
been married to a richer man. I don't know what
to say. I mean, this is terrible. Yeah, no, Debbie,
this is terrible. But there's really no way around it. Okay.
I took a long journey to let you know there's

(12:11):
no way around it. And let me tell you why.
You need to know this, and everyone needs to know this.
If the government makes a mistake and you get overpaid,
you're screwed. You got to pay it back. So if
you ever think, oh, I'm getting this money, I'm gonna
get away with it, you won't. Eventually it catches up
to you. And I don't think that was on your mind, Debbie.
But you were double dipping according to them.

Speaker 6 (12:33):
Yes, that I understand.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
So now not only do you have to make payments now,
not only do you have to make payments on the
twenty six to nine. But you also have to make
payments for Part B and on top of that, you
lose your spousal benefit.

Speaker 7 (12:49):
Yes, correct, so you are.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Truly in the hole. What are you going to do
about it? I'm serious, what are you going to do
about it?

Speaker 6 (12:56):
Oh? The lady at Social Security said, I could play
for a waiver and with the form. But wait, wait, wait,
wait on man, Uh, there's ways to figure out what
my house is paid for. I live off grids, so
I don't have any electricity bill. My cars are paid for.
I dropped my house insurance because it was extreme. I
live mountains.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
You wait, wait, you dropped your house insurance because it's
paid for? Okay, listen, I know. No. So you have
a you have a low standard of living. You're not
You're not endearing yourself to people right now though you're not.
You're like they're saying, well, okay, you can afford it.
Then I got to take a break, Debbie, Debbie, apply

(13:37):
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(15:04):
Tom Martino here three three seven, won three talks seven
to one three eight two five five. Welcome one and all.
We are talking about your problems, question complaints, and I
want to take Steve as a comment on Debbie's issue. Now,
Debbie was overpaid for four years on Social Security because
she also had PARA. They didn't take into consideration and
basically now has to pay it back plus lost their

(15:25):
spousal benefits. What do you think, Steve?

Speaker 8 (15:29):
A year ago, Tom, I retired on a ridd in
twenty sixteen. I retired from the Boulder Valley School District
with a pair of pension. Prior to that, I was
receiving Social Security a meager amount under five hundred dollars.
I forget to mention to them when I retired that

(15:52):
to Social when I retired that I had a pair
of pension. So seven years after they began paying me,
I got a letter in the mail stating that I
owed them sixteen, three hundred and fifty dollars. I went
down to the office in Lewisville and I spent about
three days down there talking to those folks with my

(16:13):
CPA to determine whether or not it was valid, and
they we determined it was valid. It was my mistake
for which I'm kicking myself in the butt still, and
I asked them if they would make a payment plan
for me, and they said the best we can do
is nearly seven hundred dollars a month until it's paid off. Well,

(16:34):
I simply couldn't afford that, So what I had to
do is wipe out my meager savings account and pay
them in total. My issue is not necessarily with Social Security,
but with the rule that states that money you made
over a lifetime is not going to be paid you.

(16:57):
And that is my argument with Social Secure.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Now, wait a minute, what are you talking about. You
didn't pay into it though, if you had para.

Speaker 8 (17:06):
No, but I paid into it prior to that, in
my life prior.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Oh okay, okay, but you can okay, if you paid,
if you paid into both, they simply offset it you still.
But but if it turns out that you didn't pay enough,
you're right, you don't get it back, You're right?

Speaker 8 (17:25):
Yeah, Well I don't my understanding, and I'm not sure
whether this is correct or not. Is that not every
state has this same rule?

Speaker 2 (17:36):
No, they all do. No, No, that's a social security
it's a social security rule. Bro, it's not. It's not
a state rule. Okay, it's a social security rule. You
don't double dip if you have see and it really
isn't so much about double dippy. Well it is, But
the main principle here is that you for the time

(17:56):
you had PARA, you did at the time you're paying
into PARA, you were not paying into Social Security. Now,
the way I think is your work is not like that.
I don't think there should be a pair. I think
you showed social Security. I mean, I don't even understand
why they have a separate system. It just doesn't make
sense to me. Three out three seven one three talk
seven one three eight two five five. Brenda, what's going

(18:18):
on with you? Brenda? Now? Hold on, we had I
bet did you call in last week? Brenda?

Speaker 9 (18:24):
Yes, I did. I have a small claims court for
trouble damages for an apartment move out.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Now that was when I'm trying to find the actual case.
Uh this, let's see, it was I don't have when
you called in? Did you use the name Brenda.

Speaker 9 (18:40):
Yeah, Mark might have taken and it might have been.
It might have been last week, it might have been
the week before, because it was yesterday.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Okay, so you had a mediation because they did not
send you in time. The information was that the case
on your security deposit. Yes, you remember that day, you
remember that case. No, you were shaken.

Speaker 10 (19:03):
I'm working a different case.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Okay, the different one. Okay, So what happened? Uh? Oh yeah, okay,
go ahead, I'm listening.

Speaker 9 (19:10):
Basically, the question I have of mediation was I put
US Postal Service forwarding on my mail two weeks before
I moved. They said that they sent a letter to
me a week after I moved out that happened.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Where did they send it? They sent it to the
old address, right.

Speaker 9 (19:26):
Old address, and it should have gone through the Postal
Service with my mail forwarding, which I was receiving mail
before that, right to other people like Excel. But they're
saying they sent it out and it was returned to
the sender to them, so they knew. I they knew.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Oh wait a minute, Why why did I don't get this?
Why didn't the post Office forward it?

Speaker 9 (19:50):
I don't know, because I do have one from Excel
Energy that was forwarded two weeks before that with no
problem from the old address to the new address.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
But they're not. You don't think they're dying about getting
it back.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
Do you? Yes? I do.

Speaker 9 (20:03):
But even if my question is, even if they got
it back, they knew I didn't get it, and they
had my phone number and my email, there's no responsibility
to them.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Nope, nope, they just have to mail it. There's no
mistake it. They don't have no they I'm giving you
the answer. They don't have to chase you down. They
don't have What did mediation say.

Speaker 9 (20:27):
Well, they basically said that Number one, they're all wrong
with the trouble damages thing. They're saying that we would
have had to file a court case seven days from
move out date, saying that we were going to file
take them to court.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Well, of course you in seven damages because you can't
do it within seven days, you have to do it
after sixty days.

Speaker 9 (20:47):
Right, So that was wrong first and then and then
they basically went through this, Well, we mailed it out
and we got it back, so we never you know,
we never said so did the mediation.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Did the mediator basically tell you you're not going to
get treble damages.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
No.

Speaker 9 (21:03):
Basically we even told them we don't want any damages zero.
We just want you to remove their derogatory comments off
of our rental history.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
And what was the derogatory comments about about you owing money.

Speaker 11 (21:16):
Then move out?

Speaker 9 (21:17):
Cost can know them money?

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Okay, here's what I need to know. Did you did
you end up having to pay them or did they
call it even or what what was the result of
your media.

Speaker 9 (21:31):
We're going to court next week.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
So the mediation did not work.

Speaker 9 (21:35):
No, and they basically are threatening that when they go
to court they're going to add attorney sees and well.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
They don't get they don't get attorneys feed, they don't
they don't get attorney fees automatically unless the judge grantson
what kind of court you go into small claims court?

Speaker 9 (21:48):
Right, small claims court in a Rapahole county, so.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
They don't have Look at they're threatening you just show
up at small claims court. But listen, you may lose.
If the mediator said, look, you're going to have to
show that you got mail and you had it forwarded.
I don't know how you and we do it.

Speaker 9 (22:05):
We have to take good because good, because when you
have Postal Service forwarding them, they send you a picture
of everything.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Good, good, good, good, and you never got a picture
of their mail. No, I listen, Brenda, how do you
lose if they say they got it back? Do they
have the unopened envelope as evidence? Did they have it?

Speaker 9 (22:24):
I don't know. They didn't produce Well.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Guess what, you have the US Postal Service evidence, so
they have to have evidence. I think you might win.

Speaker 9 (22:34):
Okay, all right, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
What to do. But but what were you What was
your comment about it? Why did you call about it?
I think you're on the right track. Why did you
call it?

Speaker 9 (22:42):
Well, the reason I called was because I wasn't sure
if they have other ways to contact us, if they
knew we did not.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
No, No, they don't have to. They don't have to
under the current now. Yeah, unfortunately, I think right now everyone,
I think there should be more than us, and I
think there should be a way for people to legally
be able to uh have another way to contact you. Yes,

(23:10):
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troubleshooter three all three seven one three talk three oh
three seven one three eight two five five. Welcome to
the show. Okay, So Jason wants to talk about century Link,

(24:37):
and then we got a whole bunch of things to
talk about, and go ahead, Jason. You first, what's happening, Jason?

Speaker 12 (24:46):
Internet's been down for five days straight. I've been getting
a text message from century Link.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
But there, my goodness, my century Link, which this entire
show is based on right here from my home studio,
is solid. Where are you?

Speaker 12 (25:01):
I'm on Alameda between Airport and Chambers in Aurora, and
I think it's it could be local construction, but it's
like I've fallen into an information black hole.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
I don't it's been gone wait wait three weeks?

Speaker 12 (25:16):
Five days?

Speaker 13 (25:17):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Five? I'm sorry? Why did I say three? Okay? I
had another issue here for three weeks. Okay, never mind
on this, on this sentry link thing for five days.
Here's what I want to know. Are your neighbors out
I haven't.

Speaker 12 (25:30):
I haven't had much contact with them, but I think
they have direct TV. But I haven't talked to them,
so I haven't.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Been Okay, Well, this is important because it's either it
could be with your local crap there, right, we don't
know that yet, right, correct? Okay, So what are you
calling about? You want to find out? Right?

Speaker 12 (25:47):
Yeah, I just want information and maybe a little embarrassment
might Oh okay, you know a roadblock that's I don't
know about her.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
You know.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Well, here's the thing normally, Jason, the way there, you
got to discern whether it's your house or not, because
they're not going to get embarrassed if it's your house,
because it's never their fault if it's your house. Yeah,
I mean right, even if if rodents ate through the
stuff or how how it's been five days when you

(26:18):
call them, do they try to ping your modem and
stuff like that?

Speaker 12 (26:23):
See that that was repaired, I want to say, the
week before. So this is and this is when they
contacted their automated system and just talked to a rep
today And it's an area outedge servage outage.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Wait, that's that's what I get. Oh wait, so you
did you did find out there is a service a
service outage?

Speaker 12 (26:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Hold on, and I do you know that for sure?

Speaker 14 (26:49):
Yeah, Jason, Jason, this is Dimitri. I don't know if
you've noted if you know the news of the past
couple of weeks, there have been some deliberate sabotage attempts
on internet access in the eastern part of the metro area.
What these appear to be probing attacks by people who
are Yeah, and they're they're probing these attacks.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
Are they hardware attacks or software hack?

Speaker 14 (27:15):
They're burning, they're burning down switches, burning. Yes, this is
a probing attack on our infrastructure. What in preparation for
something probably much larger. Oh, come on, there have been
at least gang well, there have been at least four
or five such The government doesn't want us talking about this.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
No, no, did he hang uper? He got disconnected? Century
waiting hold on, Yeah, I'm on, I'm on centure. What
the hell is going on? Brothers? Wait a minute, I didn't,
Hey Shannon, talk to me.

Speaker 13 (27:53):
I wish I was involved because that was funny. But nope, he.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Got he got totally connected and he was just talking.
Listen if you want to call back, Jason. Now, wait
a minute, d Is this so you're saying they suspect
sabotage of their system.

Speaker 10 (28:10):
Well, it's not suspected. It is deliberate sabotage.

Speaker 14 (28:13):
There have been accelerants found in these underground wire wire systems,
and uh, you know the prevailing theories that these are
probing attacks and preparation for something bigger.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Hold on, though, I checked Deni in Views and they said, nope,
it's not happening. That it's an exaggeration from people who
like Trump.

Speaker 10 (28:29):
Yeah, I'll get you something from a real news source.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Okay. Anyway, so Denian Views says, Nope, ain't happening. I
watched the show vexed on Denian News and uh and uh,
Pile of crap told me that is that his name?
Pile Pile of crap. Anyway, Anito, you have a comment

(28:53):
on Social Security? What's going on?

Speaker 1 (28:57):
This happens only back in two thousand, for Social Security
sent me a letter saying that they had underpaid me
and they owed me five thousand dollars and it would
be deposited in my account next for the next month.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Wait. Wait, so it ended up where they owed you money?

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Yes, in the beginning they.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Owed me money. Yeah, And then what happened They.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Increased my my monthly benefits.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
And then about.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Four months later they called me and said era had
been made. They wanted that five thousand dollars back and
we could either do payment plan or they would keep
my Social Security from me. Until that five thousand was paid.
So I talked to my attorney and she told me
to go down and get a waiver, which a lot

(29:49):
of people don't know about.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
And got the waiver.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Now, where'd you get the waiver? Where'd you get the waiver?

Speaker 1 (29:56):
I was living in Las Vegas at the time, And
I mean, did you get it from Social Security or where? Yeah,
that's the only place you can get it from Social Security.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
A waiver to pay them back kidney, a waiver saying
you did not have to pay them back.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
The waiver that I got said that I had to
pay them back and I had to fill out this
wave was like a booklet, was like twenty pages. My
attorney killed it out for me.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Okay, But the waiver said you wanted to get away
from paying that. In other words, the waiver was a
waving away from paying Is that.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Right exactly exactly?

Speaker 2 (30:38):
And did it go through? Were you able to keep
the money?

Speaker 3 (30:41):
I was able to keep the money.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Definitely. Yes.

Speaker 7 (30:45):
They were really upset.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
They was really upset about it.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
They don't like to lose.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
So what happened that they must have put something on
my account because when I would call later off about
something else, I was either put on hold, oh I
was disconnected.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
So okay, well, thank you for that information. Anita, Listen,
I was, I'm not aware of any kind of waivers. Now,
I'm not saying she's not telling me the truth. I mean,
if she says it happened, it happened, I have no
reason to disbelieve her. But the fact that there would
be a waiver allowing you to keep money that they
sent you by mistake is beyond is beyond me and Pat,

(31:24):
one of my financial guests today, Pat, you said, there's
a there's a windfall bill that says you a formula
for paying back, right, or a formula for offsetting and
paying back.

Speaker 15 (31:34):
Well, there's a there's a formula that if you have
participated in Social Security, but we're also a participant in
a non covered pension like parafe.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (31:42):
Yeah, you can go online and the Windfall Elimination Provision
formula is there and you can calculate what the offset's
going to be. So there's a way for planning to
know what that's going to be when the time comes.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
All right, So there you there's a law that talks
about not only offsetting, but the form for offsetting Anita
said she was able to fill out a waiver so
she didn't have to pay. We have to take this break.
I have more coming right up. Go with a sure
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(32:16):
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(32:37):
home with Remax Alliance three all three nine two zero
sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino here three O three
seven to one three talks Sam. I'll give you more
time at the after the break, but take us start out.
What's going on? Sam?

Speaker 16 (32:53):
Okay, it's we're at Congress. Parpartments are being about two
going on three years. When we first got here, I
was committed a request for reasonable accommodations, which they never
got because that's such a high turnover rate with the management.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
Yeah, so what kind of what kind of accommodations were
you looking?

Speaker 16 (33:13):
For because my mom's a she's disabled, she says, diabetes's some.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
And what kind of accommodations were you looking for? Sam?

Speaker 16 (33:26):
Just a bigger place and and just something she could
get to because the elevator always goes out here and
it's just small. She can't get around in her apartment.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Okay, Well she's not in a wheelchair, is she?

Speaker 16 (33:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (33:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Oh okay, uh huh all right, So how how long
ago did you ask for these accommodations?

Speaker 16 (33:49):
Oh, this is like when we first moved in.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
And how long ago?

Speaker 16 (33:54):
About two years ago? Over two years ago?

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Okay, hold on and let's see what we can do
for you. Okay, hey, Kachina, we have someone who deals
with housing for the Americans with Disabilities Act. I believe,
I believe we have an expert. We let on now,
and then who we go with a sure thing Denver's
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(34:17):
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Alliance three oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

Speaker 13 (34:47):
D news need who you don't have, Run as fast
as you can.

Speaker 10 (34:59):
Shoot 's gonna come.

Speaker 14 (35:01):
Man.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
This is the Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martino, Hey.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Tom Martino here, Welcome to the show, the only show
if it's kind of anywhere in the universe. And if
you happen to ever download or stream the show, you'll
see we have a studio full of people and then
we're having fun solving problems, answering questions, taking complaints, and
we'll go right back to the phones. So welcome to
the show. Now, let's talk about these outages. There have

(35:30):
been some suspicious fires set near some communication hubs, or
when I say communication hubs, let's talk about these junction
boxes which have cable and broadband in them, and they
think they're suspicious. I don't know. Do you think somebody's
trying to interrupt our communications or our infrastructure? Hmm, I'm

(35:51):
reading about this now, This one on broadband outages being
blamed on vandalism fires. No One mentions terror. Of course,
no one mentions immigrants, And of course I'm not suggesting
it is terror or immigrants. I'm just saying that some
textures did. And then basically there have been some suspicious events.

(36:13):
This is being reported by Fox thirty one, and of
course I'm just reading what I'm reading, so I don't
know if you guys have been affected by it. But
we got a call. And then also let's see, Okay,
we have phone callers who are upset in general with

(36:40):
broadband in general. They say, all over the city it's
been spotty, not just because of outages, but spottiness. I'm
having rock solid stuff on my I mean service. But
how about it, people, I mean, some of my YouTube
morals are always complaining about stuff and blaming me for it.
And it's not like jittery video or some kind of

(37:03):
stuff like that. And it has nothing to do with
my feed. It has to do with how you receive it.
I think, Okay, let's go to the phones instead of
playing the blame game here on my listeners. Right wong, Oh, no,
I'm sorry. Let me go back to Sam. I'm sorry, Sam,
I dropped off with Sam. You wanted to continue here?

(37:26):
You and your mom live in Congress Park apartments, and
you ask for some accommodations for your mom. Your mom
has diabetes. But I want to know when we talk
about accommodations, what did you specific you've been there for.
I can talk to you. What kind of accommodations were
you looking for? Go ahead?

Speaker 11 (37:51):
You want to know what accommodations are we looking for?

Speaker 2 (37:53):
What's your mom's name? Sam? What's your mom's name? Who's
on the line. I would like to talk to her?
What's your name?

Speaker 17 (37:59):
Yeah, I'm agreed.

Speaker 11 (38:01):
What callum Madrid?

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Calum Madrid?

Speaker 16 (38:08):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Spella?

Speaker 3 (38:13):
Yeah, Spella.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
That's the weirdest name I've ever heard.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
Spella p E L l A p E Pella.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Okay, Okay, it doesn't. I'm just gonna call you. Hey you, Sam,
and hey you? What are you looking for? Specifically?

Speaker 11 (38:32):
I'm looking for a wheelchair accessible okay, apartment?

Speaker 2 (38:36):
And what did Okay? I'm see we're trying to find
our our expert on housing for Americans with disabilities. I
don't I don't know if that's considered a reasonable accommodation.
I'm not sure. I'm saying, do they have apartments that
are wheelchair accessible?

Speaker 11 (38:52):
They have like two of them.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Are they taking? Are they are they taking?

Speaker 11 (38:58):
And they're taking everything?

Speaker 2 (39:02):
Okay, but hold on, So so maybe they just say
we don't have any available. What if they told you that,
what would you say?

Speaker 11 (39:11):
Well, that's what they tell me.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Okay, Well do you think that they're lying to you?

Speaker 12 (39:21):
Well?

Speaker 11 (39:22):
Sometimes I wonder if I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
How about if we have someone call over there and
just have different apartments? So are you willing to move?

Speaker 18 (39:32):
Obviously right, I'm willing to move, but I don't want
another apartment.

Speaker 11 (39:38):
I've lived here for a year and a half. I wait,
what do you want them to do?

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Do you want them to remodel your hold on to
your sage? Okay, do you want them? I'm just asking
to remodel the apartment you're in. Do you want them
to find you a new, better suited apartment? What are
you asking for? So when we all over there, okay.

Speaker 18 (40:03):
For someone Brown, I don't want nothing with the elevator.
The elevator here has broken down eight eight times, and
I can't okay with that?

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Okay, Okay, I am right now trying to find my
person with Americans with hey, Kachina, were we able to
find her. Yes, I reached out to her. She has
not gone back to me yet. Okay, we're gonna do
a couple things. We're going to get a deputy to
call over and to see if they have it, and

(40:37):
then we're going to have this expert come on and
tell us what your what your rights are. But from
what I'm looking up right now, Americans with Disabilities Act
and Fair Housing Act, large complexes must accommodate people with disabilities,
and they have to provide accessible housing for field chairs. Okay,

(41:02):
primarily it's it's for big apartment places and public now listen,
but listen to this. They can't discriminate. They have to
have a certain number of units. I don't know how
many units. It says, first of all, all common areas
must be accessible, and then there must be ground for
or elevator accessibility. And then it says that wider doorways.

(41:26):
They have to have some apartments with wider doorways and
accessible light switches and reinforced walls and stuff for wheelchairs.
Tenants have the right to request reasonable accommodations such as
ramps and stuff like that. Structural modifications are often the
tenants financial responsibility unless they have apartments available. So it's

(41:49):
really a mixed bag as to what you can demand.
Deputy doc, are you are you at the studio? You
want to make a call that to that?

Speaker 19 (41:55):
I just have one question, Tom, Yes, sir, if you
want it all of these things done, why did you
move into that apartment to begin with? If you knew
that it wasn't what you.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Yeah, in other words, in other words, that's a fair question.
That's a fair question.

Speaker 11 (42:13):
I was holding this and I was staying in my truck.
I was there for six years, and I was just
looking for something that I can live in instead of
my truck being cold and everything.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Oh my, you lived in a truck first six years?

Speaker 3 (42:29):
What?

Speaker 9 (42:31):
Yes?

Speaker 11 (42:33):
So I just got the first thing that popped up. Well,
it wasn't because I wanted it.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
Is this subsidized housing?

Speaker 11 (42:45):
It is, No, it's it's just the incomes online.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
No, okay, that's so it's slow income. Okay. So how
long did it take you to get that? How long
did you have to wait on a list for that?

Speaker 6 (42:58):
Two years?

Speaker 2 (43:00):
My goodness? How did you end up in your truck?

Speaker 11 (43:02):
That's because I went homeless?

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Okay? Did you run out of money or job? How
old are you.

Speaker 11 (43:10):
I'm sixty five.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Oh that's terrible, So.

Speaker 11 (43:15):
Six next month, if God's willing.

Speaker 19 (43:17):
Are you getting so shorty disability?

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Yes? Good?

Speaker 2 (43:23):
Okay, Hey listen, we're going to try to reach out
to that apartment place, so hang on, okay, dear three
all three seven one three talks seven one three eight
two five five. We're also reaching out to our fair
Housing expert and Americans with Disabilities Act. And her name
is Pella, like the window, I think, so I'm just

(43:43):
gonna write that down. Thank you doc for taking this.
Three oh three seven one three A two five five. Listen.
We all have our crosses to bear, don't we. Okay? Now,
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(44:46):
home with Remax Alliance three all three nine two zero
sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino, your trouble shooter three
all three seven one three talks seven one three eight
two five five. Okay, Chris with discount bath Someone wants

(45:08):
to know on your shower conversions. What if that's not
really conversion? Folks? Can you do just okay, they have
a bathroom, can they add just a shower? They don't
have but they have the room, they just don't have
anything there. Can they add a shower? It wouldn't be
called a conversion though, obviously No.

Speaker 5 (45:30):
I think probably there's some space in a closet or somewhere.
And then yeah, we can move plumbing.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
So you can add stuff, not just remodels.

Speaker 13 (45:38):
Yeah, of course.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Yeah. Now in the conversions where you pull out the tubs,
I think everyone should get rid of shoubs. That's the
name I gave them, shoubs. You know, shower tubs because
they suck and they're ugly, and they're noisy, and they're
dangerous and they're they're terrible. Do they still put them
in new houses and specs?

Speaker 13 (45:57):
They do?

Speaker 2 (45:58):
Really, So that's a big job. So that's a good
business to convert those absolutely.

Speaker 13 (46:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Now are people willing to forego the tub? But nowadays yeah,
more often than not, otherwise known as germ baths. Yeah,
you don't think about it or have a separate tub
and a separate shower. Combining them not a good idea.

Speaker 13 (46:19):
Yeah, so you see that in the master.

Speaker 5 (46:21):
But the hall bath, I mean more often than not
people want it to be a shower. The only reason
they want the tub is small kids and pets. Pets, Yeah,
they wash their pets.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
Now, Pat, he has a solution for that. Do you
know what he did in one of his houses, Pat Jollif, oh,
my partner at Wave eight. You know what he did?
He put in good come on, this is decades. He
put in a shower for his dogs.

Speaker 13 (46:47):
And we've done that before too.

Speaker 15 (46:49):
You have you install those yea, the best thing.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
They're elevated and you put your.

Speaker 15 (46:54):
Dog, yeah, no fooling, And then you start using them
for a bunch of others.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Hold on now, hold on, Chris, I'm going to start going. No,
I'm not going to make take all your advertising time,
but I'm going to mention that one so on, so
you can put in well, what do you call it
a shower bay for the dog or a grooming bay
or what? What is it? It's a it's a shower.

Speaker 13 (47:13):
Yeah, it's just a shower. Is a pet shower?

Speaker 2 (47:15):
Now? Pat put in this subway tile looks really good
and it's elevated so they can stand there. And then
they got the spray they can pull. Did I notice
you have that you can spread on, you can hold
the Wand.

Speaker 15 (47:25):
The only suggestion I would make on that that was
to make sure that you put a toe kick in there,
because we didn't do that. And if you're and.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
We've got two, what do you mean by a toe?

Speaker 15 (47:33):
Toe kick? Is where your toes can slide underneath a
little bit. Oh, otherwise you're too far and you know,
I've got some back.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
I never even thought about that.

Speaker 15 (47:43):
Yeah, But aside from that, they're phenomenal. Is the best
thing that we did in that house, and everybody gets
a kick out of it because nobody's ever seen one.
It's something to do, for sure.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
So where do you put those, Chris the discount bath
dot com? Do you put them?

Speaker 5 (47:55):
The one we did was in the basement and it
was for a great dane, so it wasn't.

Speaker 13 (48:00):
Just jumped in there.

Speaker 5 (48:01):
Yeah, so the dane had its own shower. But yeah,
that's as a matter of fact. Way back, I owned
a laundromat and we added a pet wash in there,
and well, that's a good idea.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Do it yourself. Gloomering areas are pretty cool. We have
we have them in several in Colorado. Now. The closest
I came to animal stuff like this is in my barn,
of course, and a lot of people with barns put
in a wash rack for their horses. It's you know,
it's a it's a gritted concrete. You obviously don't want
it slick, and then you have the center drain or

(48:32):
perimeter drain, and then you have the instant hot water
there and you have the big wand like a car
wash almost overhead so they don't get caught up in
it with their feet. And it's a pretty cool thing
to have a washrack for horses, of course, and we're
talking about first world problems here, folks. I mean, come on,
we're installing washes and showers for our dogs and cats.

(48:54):
But you know, okay, now, when it comes to bathrooms,
somebody wants to know can you find room in most
of these? I don't know what is a mid sized
bath I don't even know what that means. But anyway,
they have a shower tub, they have a toilet, and
they have a sink. Okay, what they want to do
is have a his and her sink and they want

(49:16):
to have they want to have just a shower conversion.
Can you usually find room to do? I mean, that's
kind of hard. So that's where you.

Speaker 5 (49:25):
Need the video, right, Yeah, absolutely, it's well I couldn't
even give a percentage to that, but it matters the
size of the bathroom. I need at least five feet
for a vanity to have two sinks in.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
It, Okay, five feet of wall, yes, ok.

Speaker 5 (49:40):
And I have to have thirty inches for the toilet,
fifteen on either fifteen inches on either side of the
drain of the center of the toilet.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
Now can you tell that from cell phone video? Usually? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (49:50):
I mean you count tiles and there's things that you
can look at Sometimes you can't tell, but more often.

Speaker 13 (49:56):
Than that we can see the size.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
All right, three h three seven one three dogs seven
one three eight two five five And someone else? Do
you do bathrooms where none exists? Okay? Or do you
just do where they're already there?

Speaker 13 (50:09):
No, we'll do a new new build.

Speaker 5 (50:11):
Typically that's in a basement where there's there's roughed in
plumbing or.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Yeah, because otherwise to rough end would be impossible.

Speaker 13 (50:16):
Right, Yeah, I mean you can do it.

Speaker 5 (50:18):
It just really matters where the drains are and how
much concrete you have to bust up.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Okay, my goodness, people are using my Google phone seven
four seven, nine nine nine fifty two eighty because this
one says, can you is where the toilet drain the
pre designating spot? I must have my toilet. I guess
they're talking about rough in where you see that hole
in the floor? Can you You can't move that, can you?

Speaker 16 (50:40):
So?

Speaker 5 (50:41):
Uh, if it's an existing bathroom you don't want to
move the toilet, it can be done, but typically, especially
on the second, you'd.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Have to break up the floor.

Speaker 5 (50:49):
Now, yeah, it's it's it's probably the most challenging thing
when somebody says, Hey, the toilet, it's in the basement,
and you know there's nothing there, right, you.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Can Otherwise you'd have to jackhammer the congress. I mean literally,
you have to reduce stuff is difficult. Yeah, okay, if
you're out of house, this is the last one I'm taking. Well,
you guys can still continue to text seven four seven
nine nine, nine fifty eighty and two of these I
think we're from the same people, two from two people,

(51:18):
you know, four from two people, and then the rest
were individual. The one about if you're in a house
doing a kitchen and it's a small can you do
a bath? Can you do the kitchen? Yeah you can.

Speaker 13 (51:29):
Yep, yep. We just finished one, actually two bathrooms in
a kitchen.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
Okay, well I never mentioned that either. So it's discount bath.
You couldn't get discount bathroom kitchen dot com. No, No,
probably not discount bath and more. Okay, so that's Chris
discount bath dot com. And okay, so I said I
had Pat with me, Pat jobab from uh Wave eight.
I love saying this Wave eight financial Financial or excuse me,

(51:55):
Wave eight Wealth Management. And again I told you I
started this company specifically for myself years ago, and I said, Pat,
just this, you're going to be working for me if
you don't mind. And of course he had other favorite clients.
He had too, he really did, so they followed him
for thirty five years. So but the bottom line is this.
The stock market right now is both bad and good

(52:18):
depending on the day. So why is that? See? See,
I know why. I know why, and I think you
know why. We've been reading and researching a lot, which
of course is what differentiates us because we take an
active role in you and the market. But this money
anxiety thing, I find the most fan fascinating thing we've

(52:40):
ever talked about. What do you think?

Speaker 15 (52:42):
Oh, I agree with you. It's one thing you know
when you read about that. Typically, what we've done historically
we ask people about their risk tolerance. We give them
a questionnaire.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Sure everyone does that.

Speaker 15 (52:54):
We give them a hypothetical question to say, if you
saw a ten percent draw down in your portfolio, how
would you react? And most people what, Oh, I'd stay
the course, or I'd even invest more or whatever.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
Then they don't tell the truth.

Speaker 15 (53:04):
Well, what happens is when it when it does happen
to them, then they run for the fences and I
think the psychological factor of that and behavioral finances that
it feels worse to lose and it feels good to win,
and people don't realize that. And so what what the
Money Anxiety Index has done is it's gone out and
measured actual variables of reactions of people to things that

(53:27):
have happened in the world, such as COVID. So and
there's an interesting thing, right, as an example, So COVID
comes along, and you wonder what's everybody going to do,
and everybody has their predictions and so forth. What's one
of the number one things that people did in reaction
to COVID. They went out and they bought toilet paper.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
You know, the consumers did at the stores, right, because
they didn't want to be home without toilet paper. I know,
it was amazing to me how people did that, right, And.

Speaker 15 (53:52):
My point bringing it up is is that's an actual
reaction to an occurrence in the marketplace that can be
measured and then it can.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
Right to Now obviously we're not saying, you know, you
go out and then buy Sharman stock, but that is
an exaggerated example of where anxiety causes changes in a marketplace.
That's right, it's.

Speaker 15 (54:11):
Taking real reactive data and applying that to market movements.
And there's and in the Money Anxiety Index, there's been
a correlation and to the market in long positions and
short positions for funds that exchange traded funds that outperform
in both market cycles. And then you can put a
portfolio together based upon it.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
I don't know if this person trying to be a
smart astronaut that text me, what makes you so special?
You know everybody? You know, there's there's you know everyone,
there's there's dozens of shows and commercials on about financial advisement.
And and here's what I want to say real quick.
First of all, let me just explain this. We don't
day trade or do anything like that. And I asked,
do we buy? Do we you know, should we be

(54:53):
buying individual stocks? That's that's a very rare occurrence, very
individual stocks for certain people at certain times if they
have a passion or want or love, yes, But most
of the time you don't. If you buy and hold
a specific stock, who should believe in it? That's good,
like an Amazon or something like that. What we call
really solid blue chip stocks blah blah blah. But normally

(55:16):
you don't knee jerk and buy stocks and sales stocks
and buy stocks and sales stocks. But we do a
lot of funds, a lot of ETFs because those are
easier to track and you have less volatility. Wouldn't you say, Pat.

Speaker 15 (55:28):
You have natural diversification built in because you have a number.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Of it and buy people way smarter than us. And
while we say we take a direct approach, which we do,
we do not wholesale this out like ninety eight percent
of all advisors wholesale it to bigger advisors. I don't care.
They should be honest with you and tell you that, okay,
they make a spread, but you do have to take
advantage of expertise out in the marketplace like ETFs and
stuff like that. But the other thing that I find

(55:52):
fascinating with money index is that you can actually trace
correlation to positive and negative reactions to the people's psychology,
not to their not to what they say, but what
they do and how they feel. If you if you
can see a sense of how people feel through this
index and look at I'm not going to tell you
the guy that developed this index, you can look it

(56:12):
up and do it. And because he's not exclusive to
us at all. He's just he's an expert. He's a genius.
And uh, he's proposing that bank accounts now be based
on that where they're swept and put into that so
you have free checking all the time. That makes money.
And it's not like a money market. It's a little
more of it's a little more aggressive than a money market,
but it's every bit is safe. And I think that's

(56:35):
a genius move. This guy is a genius. But anyway,
the money anxiety indecks we use, and we also use
the trend index on necessities and trends. And let me
just give you one example. During COVID, we had a pair.
We do stock pairs a lot of times, and we
do one long, one short, blah blah blah. But let

(56:55):
me explain this to you. We had one pair that
was weird. But but but one of the ups sides
we saw it was going to be or our intelligent,
our artificial intelligence told us to buy Lululemon and we
were wondering why and it was such a weird correlation.
But as it turned out, what happened during COVID, a

(57:16):
lot of people were staying home, but a lot of
people then worked out and walked and did things in
the park and were like, even though they're home, they're
away from work. That Lululemon did take a bump. It
was really cool how that trend was tracked. Anyway, if
you ever have any questions, you can email me here
and you can also text me on my Google number

(57:37):
three oh three. Oh excuse me. The Google number is
seven four seven nine nine nine fifty two eighty and
I'll give out that number for Wave eight three oh
three seven seven to one help seven seven one four
three five seven. So if you have any questions for
me for Pat who's here for Wave? Or we have
Chris here discount Bath and then I'm going to talk
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(58:41):
three talk three oh three seven o three eight two
five five. You guys have any follow ups that I
need to know about, let me know, just chime in.
I know that we've had several ongoing cases that we're
still trying to help people with. And since you're both
here and bo you started working on Justin Garcia. You

(59:02):
know you heard when he called into the show, and
obviously he said his contra. Basically, here's what's his contention.
Is his contract superceedes the law. Did you know that
it supersedes the law, meaning that his contract doesn't have
to follow the law, which is the Contractor's Trust Act.

(59:25):
That is what the man is telling us.

Speaker 20 (59:28):
Two is three times. And there's also a provision he's
put in the contract that he.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
Could get get closer to that bro charge.

Speaker 20 (59:37):
Justin claims he can charge five I thought it's five
hundred dollars a day, but his contract says he can
charge five hundred dollars an hour every time, the very
minute or hour the contracts and not completed, which is ridiculous.
And he's been working quite a bit behind the scenes
with Colp the Attorney General.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
You want to come in on it, so d go
ahead take the mic. I mean it's making noise, but
I don't go ahead.

Speaker 13 (01:00:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:00:03):
I Bow alluded to some of my behind the scenes
work and helping Bow on this matter.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
And the Attorney General.

Speaker 14 (01:00:10):
Yeah, the attorney So I've been in touch quite a
few times with the State Attorney General's office, and you
saw the latest email that they sent me, which basically
they've stopped commenting on this matter because they claim that
they are not allowed to comment or confirm or deny
on going and investigations. So I don't know where that stands,
but hopefully the consumer will be able.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
To come well now. They often say that. They often
say that once I used to give them stuff at
Channel four and at Fox thirty one and when I
was on TV, and I would give them information when
I came across the case I thought were fraudulent, and
then I'd say, Okay, now I need to know I
need to follow up, and they would say things like, well,
we can't tell you anything, and I said, wait a
minute I brought it to you, you know.

Speaker 14 (01:00:50):
And the other two things that I've been working on
to help BO with this case is I developed the
channel inside the colors of the Springs Police Department and
this is not dead yet. Good good, So there's a
lieutenant over there who is in charge of financial crimes
who's now been involved in investigating this matter, and hopefully
he'll be able to find some evidence and pass this

(01:01:12):
on to the District Attorney's office. And then the third
and final thing that I did to help BO is
I did find a civil litigation attorney.

Speaker 10 (01:01:20):
Who specialized take it.

Speaker 14 (01:01:23):
I believe, if I read the email correctly, he already
took this case.

Speaker 10 (01:01:27):
And he's doing this what's that? Yeah?

Speaker 14 (01:01:31):
So, and I believe he's doing it pro bonos so,
and I'm sure that's in hopes of recovering his fees
at the end of the civil action.

Speaker 10 (01:01:39):
Okay, So those are the things that I've been working on.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
Now in the obvious news, no, not the election, something
even bigger coming up Halloween there is, believe it or not,
Now there are woke costumes and unwoke costumes. You have
to choose which is which. Okay, I'll go with unwoke. Okay.

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So basically, if you wear the wrong costume to work,
they're saying, you stand the chance of being canceled, But
you also stand the chance of losing a job. And
here are some of the most common mistakes people make.
Listen to this tease coming right up. I'm going to
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(01:02:23):
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three oh three seven one three talk seven one three
eight two five five Mark, Welcome to the Tom Martina Show.
What's going on? Mark? What's going on? BB?

Speaker 7 (01:03:53):
Hi Tom?

Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
This is a Hey.

Speaker 8 (01:03:54):
I had Discount Bath come out, put in.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
A got rid of my shove, Yeah, tower.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Yeah, those things I know.

Speaker 21 (01:04:05):
Stephan come out, gave us a quote and told us
about all his products.

Speaker 17 (01:04:09):
And we made an appointment.

Speaker 21 (01:04:11):
Yeah, Tim, come out at the end of September.

Speaker 16 (01:04:14):
Two and a half days later.

Speaker 15 (01:04:15):
We had a beautiful shower.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
Two and a half days That is what incredible. What
kind of wall system did you go with?

Speaker 22 (01:04:24):
Oh the acrylic.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
Yeah, marble looking crylic and nothing to maintain, hardly anything
to maintain. Right, that's right, yep, that's cool. What was
there before so you had? Did you have like the
original that was built with.

Speaker 23 (01:04:37):
Your house, Yeah, built back in.

Speaker 21 (01:04:39):
The seventies, the club with the.

Speaker 22 (01:04:41):
Tower doors and tile.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
Yeah, and Tim, Tim come out and the boy.

Speaker 17 (01:04:47):
That guy is good.

Speaker 23 (01:04:48):
He's a perfectionist and he did a great job.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
Hey, Mark, thank you so much. I really do love
hearing about that stuff. So thank you very much, Mark.
And yeah, discount bath dot com there on a show today.
If you have any questions, I do have a few
texts for everyone here. We'll get to three O three
seven one three talk now. On that caller, a lot
of people said, you know, I wasn't hearing her name right.

(01:05:12):
I thought it was Pella, possibly Ella, Stella, Isabella, Marabella, Othella.
I don't know. Does anyone know for sure? Kaschina? Did
you get her name for sure? I did? Yes, it's Stella.
Oh okay, then I'm going to stop calling her. Hey
you Spella, Hey stop? That is that the recording of me?

(01:05:35):
Is that what I said? Spella? How could I even
think there was a name called Spella. For God's sakes, Spella,
and people are saying, come on, yo, fart. Can't you
hear it? My wife even texted me she said Stella,
so she was listening and could hear easier than I
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(01:05:56):
oh three Martino three O three six two seven eight
four six. I want to ask Pat since he's here
and he's with Wave eight Wealth Management or and by
the way, that's invest with Martino dot com. That's the website.
I change it because Mark said when I use the
it's too long to say waveightwealth Management dot com, although
that'll get you there anyway. What do election What do

(01:06:18):
elections usually do the market? What do they usually do?
In general? I mean, what what do they do?

Speaker 15 (01:06:23):
Pretty static?

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
This wait and see kind of thing is kind of
a wait and see. So it's not a crash or
a boom.

Speaker 15 (01:06:29):
Or no, not necessarily, and everybody tries to anticipate that
some big move and it generally doesn't happen. And you know,
typically what I tell people is certainly aside from the
headline risk and that can get some emotions going and
things will make you know, people make some moves and
things like that, but it's really more about FED policy
that's going to move markets.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
So they feel somebody is going to be inflationary or recessionary,
or high rates or low rates.

Speaker 15 (01:06:58):
It moves more so in the immediate it's about FED
policy because they really control the velocity of money into
the market and bloscity capital in the marketplace, and so
administrative changes really don't take effect if you think about it,
until almost two years down the road, and all the
policies get changed and then they get put in a
place and so on, and then the domino start to fall.

(01:07:18):
So it's it's more about what the Fed's doing and
what the cost of money is and the velosoity capital
in the market.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
Deputy d I got a text about this Josh Sandoval,
another person, so they wanted to know they heard about
it on the They said they heard us that we
were talking about on the show. They didn't hear the conversation.
I want to know your gut feeling did you feel
Josh Sandival was a you know, look at when you
talk to Justin Garcia, this guy that stole sixty two

(01:07:47):
thousand dollars from an elderly woman. You get the feeling
he's a scammer. You just get the feeling right off
the bat. He's trying to be a smooth talking scammer.
I want to know this, what feeling did you get
with Josh Sandival didn't I.

Speaker 5 (01:08:01):
Did not get that feeling from mister Sanderbal at all.
He is he is, and I believe when he says
that he's going to repay Guermo, who's the consumer whose
behalf I called yesterday, it's disappointing that he is not
in a position to write a check for the entire
amount due. But given how hard it is to get

(01:08:21):
money out of contractors anyway, his offer in his commitment
written commitment to two payments per month in the amount
of five hundred dollars. E oh, it's way better than
what we typically experience. I did not at the time
know that Bo is also independently of this is working
on a different case with the same contractor on behalf

(01:08:41):
of another of another.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
The same guy, same guy. Pass over the mic. Wow,
the same guy? What in that case? Bo? What was it?

Speaker 20 (01:08:53):
It was about a month ago. Kayla called into the show,
and you'll remember this, Tom. This is the one where
I asked to go over to his house and I
went over on a Saturday. I called several emails.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
He did call me.

Speaker 20 (01:09:08):
He said he would send some money to Kayla, and
he never.

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Come man, this is the Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martino, Hello.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
Tom Martino here, Welcome to the show. Three oh three
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It came taking complaints. You see that number three oh
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(01:10:29):
download the podcast for the stream and for those of
you in radio land, welcome. Let's go to the phones
and solve some problems, all right. We have as our
guests today discountbat dot com evenue questions on discount Bass,
a lot of people fact questions when it comes to
home improvements and stuff for my guests. We also have
Pat Jolliffe with Wave eight Wealth Management talking about the

(01:10:51):
realities of the investing world, which we haven't gotten into yet,
but we talked about smart sensible direct investing and what
to do and how to you know, I don't like
to use the word hedge the market, but basically have
still slow and steady returns and performance. That's what you're

(01:11:11):
looking for. Many people make killings, also make big giant
losses as well. So anyway, Steve, I'm going to talk
to you right now. What's going on?

Speaker 21 (01:11:20):
Steve? Hey, Tom, I'm calling. I've got a business. We
own a c transmission on Federal sixty seventh and Federal
and now I'm on your referral. I'm on your referral
list and I'm looking for a company that does snow
removal from our parking lots and our sidewalk for this winter.
But I don't see anything on your list, so I

(01:11:40):
thought i'd just read you know what.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
I'll tell you why. We've had several try over the years,
and here's what usually happens. We have landscapers who usually
try to do that in the winter and they're not
equipped to or they don't do a great job. It's
not that they're bad, they don't cheat people. They just

(01:12:02):
get in over their head. I have found it's a thing.
It's a weird business because even the best people who
want to do it can never plan for it. They
either are overstaffed or understaffed because they don't want to
pay people for being on standby it. But at the
same time they have to be ready when the snow comes,
and then they all have these crazy contracts like only

(01:12:25):
come if there's so many inches or more. You know,
it's it's just a very strange business to try to
do a good job. So we've been unsuccessful in finding
good people we know that wrong wrong say, and finding
people who can make a go of it. There's plenty
of good people in the business even now, but it's

(01:12:46):
hard to make a go of it or to keep
people happy, especially with heavy snows. Now there are I
don't know what to tell you, man, There are businesses,
you know. I have these these young men one time
on my business that do window clean great guys, same story.
They were hard to plan. They still do good jobs.
They do commercial and residential. And then they tried doing

(01:13:07):
snow removal, and their theory was, you know, we'll get
We'll just have all of our window washers because if
it's snowing, they're not doing windows. And it worked for
a while, and I'm not sure if they're still doing
it or not. And I don't know if i'd like
to refer you to them, because I don't know of
any that I can say beyond the shadow of a doubt.
They do a great great place, they do a great job,

(01:13:29):
and so therefore I don't have a recommendation. But I'm
going to ask my listeners to call in or to
text me if anyone knows good people who do snow removal.
So if you listen, Steve, perhaps we can get an
answer for all of us. So how's business. By the way,

(01:13:53):
how is business at the transmission place?

Speaker 21 (01:13:57):
We are doing great. Tom been a real blessing. We've
just we doubled our business and we've just people are
fixing their cars and they don't want to go electric.
So I'm telling you it's working out.

Speaker 3 (01:14:08):
Great for us.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
See if you ought to come over for car day
one time, because we have a we have our car
professionals on from time to time and we should really
get you know, people on from the referrals who are
in the business. Again. Uh, you know, we have all
of our experts. We we love and I want to
know something. What's the biggest job, not the biggest job,

(01:14:31):
the most common transmission you're repairing? I'll bet you it's
some kind of CBT. Is that what they call it? CBT?

Speaker 21 (01:14:38):
Well, we have been doing some of those. Most of
those time, we've been replacing the complete units. But believe
it or not, the twenty eighteen and newer gms and forwards,
we're doing a lot of the eight and ten speeds.
So all of the newer vehicles now are the star
are they?

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
Are they we week transmissions or what?

Speaker 21 (01:14:58):
Well, they're shifting too much. I think it's the main
Oh never thought of that, sitting eight and ten times.
So they're not lasting, but seventy five to one hundred
thousand miles on some of these units, So it's kind of.

Speaker 17 (01:15:12):
Good for us.

Speaker 21 (01:15:12):
We've had a kind of a big learning curve to
learn how to build them.

Speaker 17 (01:15:15):
But we're actually give.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
Me an example of a car that has that ten speed.

Speaker 21 (01:15:21):
Well, any of the big twenty five hundred, the Silverados
and such are doing that. But I'm not really in
that part of the business. I do most of the
business side. But my two sons, of course and Derek,
they run the business, but they they're always talking about
the eight and ten speeds having a lot of problems now.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
And Steve, what about the what about the supply chain?
How have you been How has it been for getting
parts and stuff?

Speaker 21 (01:15:49):
Well, we've been doing really well, Tom, I think for us,
I pay my vendors every two weeks, so I'm kind
of on their hot list. When I need something, they
go come get it to me. But our transmission suppliers,
our main supplier, does really good for us. But there
are times I'm not going to lie to you, Tom,
we do have to get other sources. Yeah, part, and

(01:16:13):
it adds time to the because of vendors, you know.
It's yeah, they're having a tough time, so we have
to go to several sources to build the transmission sometimes
on some models, mainly the older models.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
Okay, now on transmissions, is most of it remove and
replace with rebuilds or do you try to rebuild them
yourself or what?

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
Well?

Speaker 21 (01:16:33):
What we well, we do we try to rebuild them.
We've got two builders in our company. I have over
eighty years of experience.

Speaker 13 (01:16:41):
In our shop.

Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
Who building side?

Speaker 21 (01:16:43):
Yeah, yeah, so between the two guys, they've been around
a while. They know how to do it. But we
are totally transparent. We let our customers give them a
price range before we even start on it. If we
condemn the transmission, it's no charge for us to check
the vehicle. And if we actually condemn it, then we
we don't. We let them know what the price range is.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
And then now what is your is your website? I
want to make sure I have the right one? Is
your website? What is it AC transmission dot com?

Speaker 21 (01:17:12):
For AC transmission AC transmission dot com. We're on Federal sixty.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
Site sixty seven eighty yeah, yeah, right, And how and
how long has that ocasion? How long has that location
been there?

Speaker 21 (01:17:26):
Nineteen sixty five?

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
Tom, whoa and see now that's really cool. That's good. Yeah,
AC Transmission Center. Go ahead, Yeah, that's us.

Speaker 21 (01:17:37):
We're the second owners. I bought it from the original family,
so we went from a family business to a family business,
and that's the way we kept it. I've known the
previous owner over thirty years, and I've always was really
impressed by his shop and how he ran it. And
I always told him that, hey, if I ever wanted to,

(01:17:58):
if you ever wanted to sell it, maybe we can
work something out. And that's what we actually did. We
we bought it, bought the building and business and everything
about four years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
Oh, I just got a I just got a question
by text asking do you guys go out and tow
in for people.

Speaker 21 (01:18:17):
I do have a towing company that I sublet to good.
We will tow it in for for We will tow
it in for free if they do the work with me. Yeah,
if they do do the work with me, then they'll
just have to.

Speaker 12 (01:18:29):
Pay for the toe bill.

Speaker 21 (01:18:29):
But it's no charge for our customers.

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Thank you very much. Man. And and I want to
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thanks man, thanks for calling in. And if we hear
anything about snow removal, we will absolutely let you know.
Thank you, Steve. Okay, now we have Drew coming up

(01:18:56):
after the break. And also somebody said, Tom, you're getting
old and you tease something and never came back to it.
Do you remember what the tease was? Uh? Yes, it
was uh costumes, Halloween costumes, the dues and don'ts and
how to get canceled. But I will and I'll tell
you why I won't forget this time, because I will

(01:19:17):
be reminded of the horror of Halloween, because I'll be
talking to Drew, just kidding around, just kidding around. Okay,
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nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino, your
troubleshooter three all three seven one three talk three oh
three seven one three eight two five five? Why did
Drew hang up every time I'm gonna go to him?

(01:20:22):
He hangs up. Now I am going to talk about
Halloween costumes. I am the dues and don'ts and not
to get canceled. They've done a research around the country
on it. Michael. What's going on with you? Michael, Welcome
to the show.

Speaker 7 (01:20:36):
You're after the Battle of Little Big Horn Museum and
stuff up there? No where is that up into Wyoming?
Just you know.

Speaker 2 (01:20:46):
What I might have done that years ago. I might
have done that, because that rings true. I might have
gone up there with my motor home. Why do you ask?

Speaker 7 (01:20:55):
Because I'm curious if you are related, great great great
grandfather would beep to Giovanni Martino, who is yes, barn so, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
We have we have a Giovanni Martino in our family
tree that goes way way back. My son is named
after him, right.

Speaker 7 (01:21:14):
You you are related to the last surviving soldier of
Custos last stand.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
You know, we we didn't claim that, by the way.
We we just were told about it and we have
never verified it. And it could be hold on, It
could be that just somebody in our family decided to
latch on to that.

Speaker 7 (01:21:33):
But he settled in New York or my wife, you.

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
Know, Then it could be. It could be because and
and of course most of the Italians started in New York. Anyway,
there were a few that came straight while everyone went
through uh of course, uh uh the island and then
went out to a lot of them came out to
Colorado and uh and then of course uh, New York

(01:21:57):
and the and and thereabout on the East coast. Uh.
Very few at the in the beginning went to California
and then well the California wasn't really developed that well.
And then also a big, big bunch of Italians rather
than America went to Argentina.

Speaker 7 (01:22:15):
Oh that's right, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:17):
There's there's a big population of Italians in Argentina. So
as far as the heritage goes, I've heard about Giovanni,
my son's name Giovanni Martino. So it's kind of a
cool heritage. And as I said, I never verified it.

Speaker 7 (01:22:33):
Did you need to be a neat thing to have.
We are the last advising family.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
That's kind of cool. Yeah, it is. And there weren't
many Italian soldiers back then in the cavalry.

Speaker 6 (01:22:45):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:22:45):
He was assigned his Custer's buglers. Those days, they ran
the army by doing bugle sounds.

Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
That's right, that's right, man. A lot about that.

Speaker 7 (01:22:54):
At the beginning of the battle, he got sent by Custer.
He's the last one to see Custer alive.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
Now. One of the first people that told me about
this was Bob Palmer, who used to be an anchorman
at Channel four, then he went to seven and then
came back to four. And I worked with Bob for many, many,
many many years, and also my wife co anchored with him,
Stephanie Riggs, And I remember I remember him telling me

(01:23:23):
he was the consummate's collector and historian when it came
to all things Custer. He really did. He had like
memorabilia and relics from that error and from I think
Custer himself. It was amazing. And he had told me
about the bugler named Giovanni Martino the last surviving person,

(01:23:48):
because he heard my name and he immediately knew, wait
a minute, are you related to? And that's the first
I ever heard of it. And then when I checked
with other Italians, they of course they didn't verify, but
they said yes. You know what I'm saying is so
I'm not sure if they I'm not positive if they
really know it or just want to claim it. So

(01:24:10):
thank you for the call.

Speaker 7 (01:24:11):
Well you need to get this all Lake because the
Marmons are big on that they got all the records.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
Yeah, I heard that. That's right. You're you're absolutely right.
Three oh three seven one three talk three oh three
seven one three eight two five five. So Kachina Calori, Kachina?
Why did he hang up again? So he's been having
issues with his phone.

Speaker 13 (01:24:35):
A landline, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
Yeah, it is a It is a landline.

Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
I don't know exactly why it keeps cutting out, but
that's pretty much what's happening right now.

Speaker 15 (01:24:49):
Bill.

Speaker 2 (01:24:51):
Yeah, he's going to have trouble.

Speaker 3 (01:24:53):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:24:55):
I'm checking his his GoFundMe. He hasn't changed it. I
I sent them suggestions. I refuse to log on and
do it as him because it requires me to put
in my phone number for the Verica verification over the account.
I'm not going to take part in a private go
fund me now. I'm told Colorado look at I'm not

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recommending them, but somebody texted me said they've used Colorado
lawn Scaping for snow removal at three zero three four
or five zero zero seven hundred. Somebody else texted and
asked for Chris over at discount bath dot com does

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he see most people getting rid of their tubs completely
or just having showers walking throughout the house or just
part of it, or are they keeping any tubs at all?

Speaker 5 (01:25:54):
So the answer to that, if most is over fifty percent,
then yes, are getting rid of the tubs completely completely.
That's probably around sixty.

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
I mean, tubs are old technology. Think about it as technology. Tubs.
Tubs were made when you didn't have showers.

Speaker 5 (01:26:10):
Yeah, and I mean really it matters the house for
sure because the big master bathrooms and there's room for
a tub.

Speaker 6 (01:26:18):
Not all.

Speaker 13 (01:26:19):
But but you take that out of the equation. Most
people shower.

Speaker 2 (01:26:23):
They're not clean. Tubs are not clean. I'm sorry. Tubs
are disgusting in my opinion anyway three all three seven
one three talks seven one three eight to five ive. Okay.
The Halloween costumes, Yes, I am getting to it right now.
The ten costume rules for Halloween parties according to the

(01:26:44):
woke crowd. Now, I'm just kidding on the wolf crowd,
but they are saying that they can be they can
violate sensitivities, and they can violate that kind of stuff.
First of all, I'm just going to tell you some
never blackface ever. Never black unless you're black, then uh

(01:27:04):
it's okay, But never blackface. And never dress as a
woman if you're a man, and a man if you're
a woman, because they're taking that as making fun of
the transgender movement. Next, avoid slutty costumes. Keep it classy,

(01:27:31):
avoid riskue, skin bearing or slutty okay. Next, stay clear
of tragic events and religious innuendos. Okay. Do not go
as a Holocaust victim, a martyr, anything. Do not jab,

(01:27:54):
Do not make take any jabs at Muslim Islam or Christianity. Next,
don't I think these all fall under this category. Don't
be offensive. Well, all, everything we're talking about is fan
Don't do something that will offend some well like the transphobic,
the homophobic, makes fun of women or makes fun of men. Now,

(01:28:20):
one time I thought, I want to know from you
guys some of the funniest and clever, most clever costumes
you've ever seen. Here's what I've seen. One time there
was a guy that came there and he had this
yellow suit on, just ian happy to be yellow, like
a leisure suit. And there were little duckies or little

(01:28:41):
uh chickens all over them, little tiny ones, the little
plastic ones glued all over his suit. And he had
a hat on with a banner on the hat that
said chick magnet. That's kind of Oh you've seen that before?
Oh it is okay. I thought that was clever, But
now everyone's saying, yeah, well Tom, that's old hat. Okay.

(01:29:02):
I didn't know that anyway, Avoid culturally based costumes. Don't
dress up as a Mexican, hey, Tom, for a Native
American or an Eskimo.

Speaker 19 (01:29:16):
What There was something on YouTube where a guy dressed
up as a Mexican with a big hat and a mustache,
and and he went to a college campus and everybody
said it was offensive. Then he went into a Hispanic
neighborhood and asked about ten Mexicans if they felt offended.
Not one of them said that they were offended by it.
They thought it was absolutely cool.

Speaker 2 (01:29:38):
Okay, yep, so they're going to these offensive nonsense. Next,
don't dress up as a terrorist. Don't be Osama bin Laden,
don't be any other terrorist. I don't even know any
terror I couldn't name. Who could I name his terrorists? Anyway?

(01:30:00):
Don't wear plastic body parts, breasts, buttocks, dildos. Can I
say that? By the way, dragon, did you just is that? Okay? Yeah,
that's what they said. Your costume should not insinuate the

(01:30:23):
form of real body parts hanging off your body or
out of your body. Consider your job, even though it's Halloween.
For example, if you're teaching school, you don't want to
wear something that your kids are going to see that

(01:30:43):
will take away respect from the teaching profession. In other words,
you wouldn't dress with a pack of cigarettes in your
sleeve smoking your cigars. Don't dress as a cancer patient. Now,
who the hell would do that? I mean, come on now,

(01:31:07):
think about your future. Don't dress as anything that will
come back to haunt you. Like for example, in the
day when people did blackface, it haunts them. Now, think
about things that may be considered offensive in the future.
Oh my god, Now we have to worry about the future.

(01:31:31):
Think about it. There have been many people that go
and drag that would be and that it's considered a brong, unless,
of course, you truly are a drag queen, then you
can do it. Next, be sure you can still do
your job if you wear your costume to work and
they allow it. Don't wear a costume that would not

(01:31:54):
allow you to do your job. For example, if you
are an administrative assistant, you would not wear a straight
jacket that would keep you from performing your duties. My god,
somebody took time to actually write this article. This is
an HR company that wrote this. Next. Next, Okay, this

(01:32:16):
one's probably don't. Don't dress up as your boss. Okay.
Don't drive or a coworker, even though you find it funny,
especially exploiting any of the physical attributes of your boss.
Case in point, if your boss has a big nose,

(01:32:37):
you would not wear a costume with a giant nose.
I can see that. If your if they have a
big ass, you're not going to wear a big butt costume.

Speaker 14 (01:32:47):
That's already prohibited by one of the preceding prohibitions against.

Speaker 2 (01:32:51):
Not being a fencing park. Why don't we just why
don't we just cancel Halloween in general? Think about it.

Speaker 14 (01:32:57):
I take issue with probitionion against the sluting costumes.

Speaker 2 (01:33:01):
No sluts, no sluts allowed. I take an issue with that,
and I'll Boughton again. Most places would shut down. I mean,
you can't go to Walmart anymore. Well, it's here to rule.
Oh did I just say that out loud? I'm sorry?
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Tom Martino, your troubleshooter three oh three seven one three
talk three L three seven one, three eight two five five? Uh? Listen,

(01:34:07):
how would you respond? Dragon? How would you respond to
this text?

Speaker 21 (01:34:12):
Or?

Speaker 2 (01:34:13):
My YouTube morons can answer me whatever. Here's what it says.
It's a text. Now, this is not to my Google number.
This is to my cell phone number. My Google number
comes to this cell phone, so it's private. But this
is my actual cell phone number. And it says right here, Hi,

(01:34:36):
I'm Zoo. That's XU. This is my new work phone
and I found you in my address book? Do we
know each other? How would you respond to that scam?

Speaker 13 (01:34:50):
You don't respond? Do reporters?

Speaker 2 (01:34:52):
Yeah? I mean, why do you think? And it's a
three one oh number? Where's three one oh from?

Speaker 16 (01:35:00):
Why the way?

Speaker 2 (01:35:01):
Why wouldn't Zoo know me?

Speaker 13 (01:35:04):
Hm?

Speaker 2 (01:35:05):
Hm, you know what I'm gonna do. I'll tell you
what I'm gonna do. I'm going to text him from
my Google voice number or her Zoo. Oh, you're right, girl,
let's just say they. I'm going to text them and
I'm going to say, hey, this is my new work

(01:35:27):
phone and I found you on my contact Do we
know each other? I'm going to do that and see
if I get a response. That'll be funny. Hunh somebody
says it's fishy pH I s h you absolutely don't
respond to that message, okay, And somebody else says, don't

(01:35:48):
never mind, that's different. Erase it and report it as scam,
as as a spam.

Speaker 13 (01:35:54):
Hey, Tom, you know what else they do.

Speaker 19 (01:35:56):
They'll call you up and I'll say, oh, is this
Let's they call my number the hey is this James,
and I'll say no. They said, oh, well, you sound
like a nice guy. You want to have a chat,
And they sort of try and get you to chat
with them so they can get some personal information.

Speaker 2 (01:36:12):
Uh. Yeah, of course everything is in an effort to
get information. Now, I want to read this text to
my Google Voice which comes right to my cell phone,
but I can read it on the computer as well.
My Google Voice number for anyone that wants to text me.
And if you want to text me about my other life,
a financial advisor life. Now that I've turned that over

(01:36:33):
as a public thing and my advisors now are working
for not just me, you can text me there, but
you can text me about the show two seven four, seven, nine,
nine nine fifty two eighty. Somebody texted me and said, Tom,
I'm serious. Now I'm a little tired of people making

(01:36:57):
fun of the woke movement. Yes, they may sometimes sound ridiculous,
but that's because conservatives make them sound ridiculous. What is
wrong with not wanting to offend people? What is wrong

(01:37:21):
with not wanting to be objectionable? When you were reading
about those costumes in the workplace? I agree wholeheartedly, and
I agree with most of the woke movement for preserving
people's feelings and self image. What do you think because

(01:37:48):
one of the shows that makes fun of woke movement
more than anybody in the entire universe is Michael Brown,
and Dragon, one of his cohorts, does the second half
of my show. He's on right now. So Dragon, what
do you think you guys have to be more sensitive? Well? Now, seriously,
do they have a point? YouTube Warrens weigh in on it.

(01:38:09):
Text me, what do you think?

Speaker 3 (01:38:10):
Call me?

Speaker 2 (01:38:12):
Is the woke movement? Now? I think the part that
people have. I don't think people care about preferences. I
don't care about people's preferences. If you don't like certain
words and phrases, and you don't like certain things and
you feel them offensive, I don't mind that. I think
what bothers me is where people get canceled. Now, someone

(01:38:36):
else texted me saying, there is no such thing as canceled.
It is in the mind of Trump and his supporters. Now,
I don't know, is there a such thing as canceled?
I mean, are people.

Speaker 19 (01:38:53):
Sports casters have been fired because they let something slip
that wasn't with the WOL community.

Speaker 2 (01:39:00):
And they can't get their job back. Name one. I
don't know. I'm not challenging. I'm asking who.

Speaker 13 (01:39:05):
Gruden would be the most recent one?

Speaker 2 (01:39:07):
Who is that?

Speaker 13 (01:39:08):
John Gruden used to be the coach of the Raiders Dragon?

Speaker 2 (01:39:12):
What did he What did he do? Dragon?

Speaker 13 (01:39:13):
Some emails were.

Speaker 24 (01:39:14):
Leak that he apparently dropped a couple of N bombs
referring to some of the players, and that got him
fired and.

Speaker 2 (01:39:20):
Cantl Papa John. He had he left, I mean he
had to leave his company. Okay, what about my pillow?
His his company, Every major retailer canceled his product and
he has to now sell direct to the public. Okay,

(01:39:40):
what about that one basketball that I'm not and I'm
not saying they shouldn't have been chastise or whatever, or
they were great people, But remember that one NBA owner
that talked about doing stuff for the blacks because of
what he does and how he pays them. And then
what about so there have been a lot of people

(01:40:03):
who have been chastised or canceled. Can't you think of people?

Speaker 10 (01:40:09):
You know?

Speaker 19 (01:40:09):
Who gets away with almost everything? Tom is South Park.
There's not one group or collections.

Speaker 13 (01:40:17):
They're making fun of everybody.

Speaker 19 (01:40:18):
They haven't insulted or made fun of, right Dragon.

Speaker 24 (01:40:22):
I would agree, Yeah, but they no holds barred against everybody.

Speaker 13 (01:40:25):
They don't pick and choose.

Speaker 19 (01:40:26):
Exactly, and nobody gets upset. It's been on the air
for like one hundred and fifty years.

Speaker 3 (01:40:33):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:40:34):
Howard Cosell years ago got fired and no one else
had him on again because remember he you know what
he said. I don't think he meant it as a
racial thing, but you remember, and then who else?

Speaker 19 (01:40:52):
Well, what about the And there's a golf announcer who
asked innocently if women with large breaths have to change
it swing and wanted to hit the ball properly, and
he got fired.

Speaker 2 (01:41:05):
H Okay, Megan Kelly, I watched the show where she
got offended, where she offended people supposedly, and now Al
Roker was so upset he could hardly talk. Okay, they
were having a discussion about Halloween costumes and inappropriate Halloween costumes,

(01:41:28):
oddly enough, like we were doing. Do you remember what
she said? She said, Well, when I was growing up,
there was nothing wrong with blackface. Now, what she meant
is that, not that there was nothing wrong. What she
meant was at the time people wore blackface. In other words,
I knew exactly what she was saying. I don't think
she was saying there's nothing wrong with it, and there

(01:41:50):
was never anything wrong with it. She goes, Oh, when
I was growing up, there was nothing wrong with it,
meaning no one would point it out. She was fired
over that.

Speaker 3 (01:41:57):
You look it up.

Speaker 2 (01:41:58):
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(01:42:48):
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we have a question for financial a few on the
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Rip of.

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News.

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So you don't have run anxiousness as we can shoot us.
Gonna come.

Speaker 4 (01:44:02):
This he is the Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martino, Hi.

Speaker 2 (01:44:08):
Tom Martino here and that number three out three Martino,
get me called twenty four to seven and we'll get
you on the show and help you anyway we can.
This show has been on for forty five years in Denver,
longer elsewhere. And I've been fighting for consumers' rights responsibilities
as well, meaning if you're wrong, I let you know,

(01:44:29):
or if I think you're wrong, I'm not always right.
But anyway, I want to go to the phones right now.
Talk to Chris now. This robot dog he's talking about. God,
they're expensive. And I've seen various robotics online. Some of
them I almost thought were unreal. They looked so unbelievable.

(01:44:52):
There was this one human form humanoid what do they
call them when they're a human form? Anyway, and this
robot was unbelievable. It sort of one everyone sees. I
think if you look at it, I think it was
Japanese and oh my, it can do backflips and all
kinds of stuff, and you can't knock it over because

(01:45:15):
of this balance servos. And anyway, Chris, tell me about this.
Did you actually buy one of these? Yes?

Speaker 21 (01:45:22):
Let me give you a little bit of information.

Speaker 2 (01:45:25):
I'm gonna go ahead, sir, please all right.

Speaker 3 (01:45:28):
I'm a disabled person and I had to relinquish my
very expensive dog to only one person, a very good
friend of mine and the only person that I know
in Colorado.

Speaker 2 (01:45:41):
But why did you have to Why did you have
to do that?

Speaker 3 (01:45:44):
Because I'm disabled and I could not care for my dog. Okay,
I got it, and so I researched and came up
with Ibo Ai Bo. It's a product Ai robotic dog
made by Sony for the last twenty some odd years.

Speaker 2 (01:46:04):
Yeah, I say it. I see it here online. What
about it? Did you buy it? Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:46:10):
I bought it through direct Sony Direct.

Speaker 2 (01:46:13):
But what did you want it to do?

Speaker 3 (01:46:16):
I wanted to do. Have it do what it said
it would do. It would make a good companion. Yeah,
it'd be a good companion. I wouldn't have to see
it if I didn't want to buy the bulls and
spend the extra money. Yeah, would do tricks. You could
teach it. And it took three years of about three
hours a day. The battery life is about an hour

(01:46:38):
and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:46:39):
And what can you teach? What kind of things?

Speaker 3 (01:46:42):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:46:43):
It could not learn to do things like for a
service dog right now, you just wanted a toy for
tricks and stuff, well.

Speaker 3 (01:46:50):
And a companion to it made me feel warm having
a dog.

Speaker 13 (01:46:55):
I've always I.

Speaker 2 (01:46:56):
Get it, I get it. So what happened?

Speaker 3 (01:47:00):
What happened? It did not work as stated I did
a week and a half, ten days of research prior
to buying it, speaking with Sony USA sales department and
getting through to their Tier two Tech department, which handles

(01:47:21):
whether they're going to decide to send it to warranty
or a limited one year warranty that the dog came with.
The dog was unable to change the color of eyes.
And this is a special edition Sony Ibo Espresso model.
It's called an ERS one thousand B. That's the model

(01:47:41):
that I got, and it's a different color and the eyes.
It's the only model that you can change the color
of ice. That never worked. They make two models Sony,
one for Japan, which is in Japanese, and one for
the USA. One for Japan and US say both. You
can use a smartphone, an Android or an iPhone. I

(01:48:05):
used iPhone and when I finally initially set it up,
it worked fine, and it worked fast. There's two types
of eyebows that you get, slow learners and fast learners.
So with all the time on my hands, since I'm
pretty much not bedridden but in the house twenty four

(01:48:29):
to seven, or doctor's appointments or pharmacies, I have this
pet that I was able to sit in my chair
and teach and play and teach a trick, cool tricks,
and it just gave me. It wasn't like one hundred
percent replacement of what I had to relinquish my Irish carrier,

(01:48:53):
but it.

Speaker 2 (01:48:54):
Was close enough.

Speaker 3 (01:48:55):
So I had done this work. And then I relinquished
my dog because they told me, oh, you can change
your eyes. She can do cool tricks, but you got
a teacher. She's an Ai. She takes three years to
fully mature. I said, that's perfect. It's like from birth
to a new dog. And I got a fast learner.

(01:49:16):
The first five days it was flawless, and all of
a sudden it started crashing into the wall, into my
glass fireplace.

Speaker 2 (01:49:25):
There's a glass cover.

Speaker 3 (01:49:26):
Over my fireplace. It was crashing into that. Looking at
its reflection, maybe it was crashing into the French doors
of lead out into my balcony, which is next to
the chair and that I sit in in my living
room where I play with ibell Akai named her Lily.

(01:49:47):
So so, I was on the phone on the sixth
or seventh day with their highest tier tier two point
five Sony technical department for only USA model, and they
were giving me all kinds of of answers to the

(01:50:10):
questions I was asking and telling me.

Speaker 2 (01:50:13):
To go to my eyebow.

Speaker 3 (01:50:14):
Well it didn't have that on the Apple app from
the app store. I could not change the color of
the eyes.

Speaker 2 (01:50:23):
And then well, okay, but hold on, but there were
there were more problems than just the eye color, right.

Speaker 3 (01:50:28):
Oh yeah. It started crashing into stuff. It just flipped
out and it started losing balance. Like you said with
the humanoid thing, you know, the servos, Well something went
wrong with that from it falling over and losing balance
onto the hardwood.

Speaker 2 (01:50:44):
How much did you pay for this.

Speaker 3 (01:50:46):
Three thousand, three hundred and two dollars on fixed income. Yeah,
that was with a pink ball, two dice, and an
eyebone which is a fake bone. Yeah, and the charging
pad which comes with the ibo. It was like twenty
nine one hundred and some odd dollars plus tax, and

(01:51:09):
then the toys plus tap. Yeah, it's about thirty three
thirty three hundred. So they authorized the warranty and they
told me this is a non refundable thing. I said,
no in the first thirty days. I believe the state
all states require if it's an electrical and I don't.

(01:51:30):
I'm not sure. This is why I called. They have
to either replace the whole unit because they couldn't fix
the ear that kept coming off because IBO was crashing
into the hallway work.

Speaker 2 (01:51:42):
So what did this? So they offered, they okay, so
what are their offers to you? Let's sum it up.

Speaker 3 (01:51:48):
They said, they will try and get me a replacement,
but it's not in their division. They ended up sending
it to LA, having me send it on their dime
to LA to their special UH repair department for us US.

Speaker 2 (01:52:05):
And what and what happened? What and what happened?

Speaker 3 (01:52:08):
This is where everything went wrong. They said, there's nothing
wrong with Ibe. We've got her doing trips, but we
can't change the color of her eyes.

Speaker 21 (01:52:17):
We don't know.

Speaker 13 (01:52:18):
And then I've.

Speaker 3 (01:52:19):
Misplaced an email saying that IBO from from their department
may not be able to or it could have been
from the marketing department who makes the decision to replace
or refund, and and it I mean, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:52:35):
Not like Sonny. Sony needs the money for God's sakes,
I mean, but but but Chris, it shouldn't be this
heart of his under warranty. Are they going to.

Speaker 3 (01:52:46):
They're not. They're sitting on there, you know what, their
laurel laurels and and not and giving me the run around.
I'm a disabled person. I live alone on a very you.

Speaker 2 (01:52:57):
Know what, Dimitri, Let's kick their ass. I'm serious.

Speaker 3 (01:53:02):
This is when I legally Chris, Chris, what is she
getting passed?

Speaker 2 (01:53:08):
Chris off?

Speaker 10 (01:53:10):
Chris.

Speaker 2 (01:53:10):
If you won't you, We're going to do it with you.

Speaker 13 (01:53:13):
Chris.

Speaker 14 (01:53:13):
What is the remaining issue that must be addressed? It
of the eye, But is it just limited to the
color of the eyes or is it still crashing into
your fireplace?

Speaker 3 (01:53:22):
The I have not received it back. They've had my
eyebowl longer than I bwonned it.

Speaker 10 (01:53:28):
Oh you haven't. You haven't received the back yet.

Speaker 2 (01:53:30):
Why won't they just send you a brand new one?

Speaker 3 (01:53:34):
And it's what I asked, and they said it's not.
It's not their department to make that decision. They have
to set go to marketing I have a direct number
to a Natalie uh that that is handles the repair.

Speaker 2 (01:53:53):
Chris, hold on, wait and what does Natalie say? What's
the last thing she said?

Speaker 3 (01:53:58):
She said that it's not up to her, it's up
to the marketing departments.

Speaker 2 (01:54:04):
Did they give you did they give you a contact
in the marketing department?

Speaker 3 (01:54:08):
No? No, no?

Speaker 2 (01:54:11):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:54:11):
Told me to call the Tier one and two people
who I spoke to for ten days prior to making
the purchase and relinquishing my dog, to make sure this
was going to be a right fit and there would
be no problems.

Speaker 2 (01:54:25):
And it's not. It didn't work. Chris out of the
get Chris, Chris, I get it, And unfortunately this is
the way it is with technology. This should not be
this complicated. They should either replace it or refund it. Period.
Did you pay on a credit card?

Speaker 3 (01:54:44):
I paid on a PayPal credit which is a little
bit different.

Speaker 10 (01:54:48):
Yeah, but it's long ago.

Speaker 2 (01:54:50):
He can't contest it on PayPal.

Speaker 3 (01:54:53):
I can tell they accept it as a method of payment.
They have to refund it, all of it.

Speaker 24 (01:55:00):
I'm not saying.

Speaker 2 (01:55:00):
I'm not saying they can't. No, I'm not saying they
shouldn't refund it. I'm saying the credit it doesn't work
like a regular one's credit.

Speaker 3 (01:55:07):
Card, one that works. And then I get this email
from I don't know, I.

Speaker 2 (01:55:12):
Can't Is this actually is ABO a separate company or
is it?

Speaker 3 (01:55:16):
No? No, it's it's it's a Sony product, but it's just.

Speaker 2 (01:55:20):
A canceled product. Now, listen, here's what we're gonna use
a dog. I get it. Here's what we're gonna need
to do. We're gonna need to get the contacts that
you've talked to, names and numbers, and then I need
to know the Do you have any kind of a
receipt for this purchase?

Speaker 6 (01:55:42):
Uh?

Speaker 21 (01:55:43):
Yeah, but I don't have.

Speaker 3 (01:55:44):
My computer's not working old and my phone is kind
of on the blink.

Speaker 2 (01:55:50):
Wait a minute, do you have do you have any
kind of proof that is sent this dog? I have
a Let me just look and do you have emails?
Show proof?

Speaker 3 (01:56:05):
Tony has it because I have to send it in
to show proof.

Speaker 2 (01:56:09):
Did you keep a copy? Yes? Did you? Okay, Chris,
so you have a copy of the purchase?

Speaker 3 (01:56:15):
Right, I'm looking right here.

Speaker 2 (01:56:20):
Don't don't look while we talk. Here's what I want
to know. Okay, you need to get proof that you
owned it and that you sent it to them. Do
you have proof you sent it to them? Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:56:31):
I do.

Speaker 2 (01:56:32):
Do you have any emails acknowledging that.

Speaker 3 (01:56:35):
They I have, Natalie will acknowledge that.

Speaker 2 (01:56:39):
Okay, did you have any Chris? I want short answers
right now. I let you talk and talk and talk.
I need to know. Do you have any emails from them?

Speaker 3 (01:56:51):
I have some for trying to troubleshoot it when it
started to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:56:56):
Good. But that proves you had it. That's all I
care about. I need to go back to dates and
emails and people you talk to in phone calls. Okay,
do you have any kind of written communication whatsoever about
the problems that they verified that say say, oh, everything's
working now except this or that? Was that all phone.

Speaker 3 (01:57:18):
Calls except the eyes and the ear.

Speaker 2 (01:57:21):
That's right, except the eyes and the ears. Did they
tell you that in a phone call or in an
email or in a text in.

Speaker 3 (01:57:27):
A phone call? No, no text, no phone call. It
was all done through a very difficult number to get.

Speaker 2 (01:57:36):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:57:36):
And her name is Natalie, and she says she's working
with them, and she's waiting till the end of the
day to see what their decision is. And if they're
going to we're going to help you twenty percent what they're.

Speaker 2 (01:57:50):
Going to charge you? What?

Speaker 3 (01:57:52):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:57:52):
What is this twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:57:53):
Percent restocking see fifteen or twenty percent restocking see of
three thousand?

Speaker 2 (01:58:00):
No, they're not. No, they're not. No, they're not.

Speaker 3 (01:58:04):
That's what they's I.

Speaker 2 (01:58:06):
Don't care what they said. I don't care what they said.
That's bull crap. Okay, if everything you're telling me is
the truth, that's bull crap, Natalie. I mean, yeah, I
know you don't have. By the way, just so.

Speaker 3 (01:58:21):
You know, tell her you're a lawyer, just as can
I just say this, And no, we're not going to
say we're a friend.

Speaker 2 (01:58:28):
We're going to say what we are and we're going
to get into it. And I I just want you
to know that we want to help you. And I
think it's bs that you're going through this from a
giant company like Sony. For God's sakes. I just can't
believe it. I mean I can't. I can't believe you're
going through this. I got to take your break. Hang on, bro,

(01:58:49):
hang on. We're going to give this a deputy d.
I want him to start on it. Then if he
needs help, will bring in Bow and then if he
needs more help, well we'll bring in I don't know
if we want to bring in Doc ever. I'm just kidding, Doc.
We got more coming up on the Troubleshooter Show. Go

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one three h two five five. Deputy D is gonna
try to kick some ass on that one ABO. But

(01:59:55):
he saw something on the Sony site for ABO. What
does it say?

Speaker 14 (01:59:58):
D uh so right there on the home the landing
site for this abo. The three thousand dollars abo dog
Abo is sold as a final sale dash no return,
So that looks like a really huge red foot.

Speaker 2 (02:00:11):
Is there anyone warranty?

Speaker 10 (02:00:12):
Though, Yeah, there's a warranty. I didn't get to that part.

Speaker 2 (02:00:15):
Okay, so it might be no return, but they certainly
have to fix a replace.

Speaker 10 (02:00:20):
It's got to be under warranty. I don't question that.

Speaker 14 (02:00:22):
But when's the last time he saw a consumer good
sold by the manufacturer as final sale national return?

Speaker 2 (02:00:29):
I really haven't. But can you imagine the day? And
we all know it's coming, folks, we all know it's coming.
You know what I'm thinking. Do you all know what
I'm thinking? Instead of a bo it's going to be
Mabel or Justine or Desiree. You got to give it

(02:00:50):
a name, but it will be or Brad. Of course.
I don't want to leave out anyone. So think about it.
Think about the day, because you know, you know it
is coming. As crazy as it may sound, there will
be ai companions for people that are lifelike or at

(02:01:13):
least never I don't want to get into I don't know.
This is show is a family show. But you know
what I'm talking. You know I'm talking about We know
it's going to happen, but when will it happen. When
will it actually happen? Hey, Keith, you have a question
about health insurance. Welcome to the show. I'm Tom Martinez.
What's going on, Keith?

Speaker 17 (02:01:32):
That's not it's a house insurance.

Speaker 2 (02:01:33):
We go, oh house, okay, got it, sir.

Speaker 17 (02:01:37):
Got our new policy. We're supposed to renew this year
and it went up. It's a mobile hone on its
some property and we own it, no mortgage. We were
curious what happens if we just don't pay insurance?

Speaker 2 (02:01:49):
Just well, first of all, don't ever do that. Don't
pay you, cancel on purpose, don't let it lapse. Yeah,
so you in other words, if you cancel, don't let
it lapse and they cancel you, there's a big difference. Okay,
it'll affect your credit and everything. Cancel it right now, Yes,
you would. You would just say I no longer need

(02:02:10):
your insurance. Now listen what happens. This is the second
call we got today, people who are considering not having insurance.
The other lady already canceled insurance. And because your house
is paid for, there is no law that says you
have to have insurance, So nothing would happen. If nothing happens,

(02:02:31):
So the biggest fear. The biggest fear I have for you,
Keith is well, there's a few you lose it and
you never replace it. But the other one is liability.
Most insurance. The most important part in my opinion of
homeowners right now is liability. I could probably literally afford

(02:02:51):
to replace my roof if I had to, or replace
my deck or a window or two. Probably not a
massive law, not a whole loss. I mean when I
say a four to two, I mean it wouldn't be
worth it. It would be outrageously expensive and stupid. But
most repairs, you know, I could probably but that I

(02:03:14):
was still never consider not having insurance because of the liability.
That's one. And you got to do the math my
insurance in this house right now? God, I don't even know.
I don't It might be sixty five hundred and seven
thousand mis yeah, yeah, so if it's about seven grand
a year, I mean, you'd have to go for my

(02:03:37):
roof maybe I don't know, ten years without a loss
to have enough money to pay for that and break even.
I don't even think the math works out ever on
So have you considered that how much would it cost
to do an entire roof on your place.

Speaker 17 (02:03:52):
Well, we have considered it's a metal roof, and it's
it's really well built, and we're not we're.

Speaker 2 (02:03:58):
Not wild well most okay thetalo. Then the only reason
a metal roof has to be replaced usually is for
cosmetic reasons. Yeah, so what I want to know is this,
how much is your premium per year?

Speaker 17 (02:04:10):
The new premium is three grand?

Speaker 2 (02:04:12):
Oh my god? On a mobile home? Yeah, hold on
a second, hold on, who's the carrier?

Speaker 17 (02:04:21):
American Modern?

Speaker 2 (02:04:23):
Hey? Can we get compass insurance on Kachina? We have time.
I want to ask them a question about this that
that sounds outrageous, and hold on teeth.

Speaker 17 (02:04:32):
The insurance companies have a credit report that they maintain, saying, oh,
this guy wasn't covered, so now he goes in some
high risk category for us.

Speaker 2 (02:04:40):
You're going to be higher risk, but not as high
as if you let it lapse.

Speaker 17 (02:04:44):
But they do keep a credit report and it could effect.

Speaker 2 (02:04:46):
It's called clue. It's called clue.

Speaker 3 (02:04:49):
Yeah, that thing, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:04:52):
Let's ask what happens if you intentionally cancel, do not
carry it and then want to get it? Let's ask
you want a good good property? Oh, yeah. Yeah, Because
in other words, if you want insurance on a different property.

Speaker 17 (02:05:06):
Yeah, what is your different to sell?

Speaker 2 (02:05:09):
What is your different property? Oh you mean if you
sell this one?

Speaker 17 (02:05:14):
Yeah, if we sell this one and we have another property.

Speaker 2 (02:05:16):
All right, let's ask that kitchina. I hope you're working
on it. Let's get Compass on. I'm Tom Martino. Will
take this break and come back and try to find
out some answers for you on this, because it's pretty important.
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home with Remax Alliance oh three nine two zero sixteen
twenty two. Hi Tom Martino, your troubleshooter three all three
seven to one, three eight two five five. Now we
have keith on and I want to get Brian Burns
from Compass Insurance. The Insurance Healthcenter dot com is where

(02:06:20):
they do their free insurance checkups. By the way, if
you're ever looking for insurance. Three oh three nine nine
six nine thousand, Brian Burns, I have a quick question
for you. First and foremost, if I had a trail
that it was paid off for a cabin or a house,
and I I just didn't want to pay the outrageous
insurance anymore, and I decided, you know what, I'm going
to take my chances, and I just said to the company,

(02:06:42):
cancel my policy at the end of the term. And
I did not have insurance for let's say two years,
three years, and then I sell it and buy a
new place, will I be dinged as a high risk
because of that? If I want to buy insurance then.

Speaker 23 (02:06:56):
Because you would be in that case, you'd be buying
a new property. So you know, when they had asked me,
if the question came up, why don't you have prior insurance,
I say, because this is a new property. So but
to your point, if if you didn't insure your house
and then you came back to ensure it. Again, there
are companies that will underwrite against that. I'm sure actuarials
would probably show that that's not as good of a risk.

(02:07:20):
I don't know because if I'm just guessing here, but
I'm thinking that if people are coming back to get insurance,
it could be because re existing they need to make
a claim. Yeah. I mean, it's like, oh man, this
is starting to get old. I want to get a
you know, get insurance on it.

Speaker 2 (02:07:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 23 (02:07:33):
Yeah, yeah, so that I so I can get a
claim filed.

Speaker 2 (02:07:35):
So so then I have another question then, and that
is what about if I don't have insurance? What are
my risks? Okay, I know I know what they are,
the obvious ones, But what's the main thing that liability?
What can happen? He has a he has a mobile home, Keith.
Is it set up in a park or on private land?

Speaker 17 (02:07:55):
Private land? How much land by bakers?

Speaker 2 (02:08:00):
How big is the motor home? Or excuse me, the mobile.

Speaker 17 (02:08:03):
Home fifteen hundred square feet?

Speaker 2 (02:08:06):
Fifteen? Is it in two halves? In halves or it's
a double wide and it's skirted or is it on
a foundation?

Speaker 17 (02:08:14):
Skirted?

Speaker 2 (02:08:16):
Is it on a foundation? No?

Speaker 17 (02:08:18):
No?

Speaker 2 (02:08:19):
Okay? So Brian that. Do you know they want four
grand to ensure that.

Speaker 23 (02:08:26):
Yeah, I don't blame it three grand. I'm sorry to
do it.

Speaker 17 (02:08:30):
Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (02:08:30):
Mean, what is the whole thing worth, Keith? What is
that whole property? I don't mean like real estate wise,
that trailer or that double wide? What is it worth?

Speaker 17 (02:08:39):
It's a ninety four? I bet I could get three
thirty thousand cash for it.

Speaker 2 (02:08:43):
Maybe, No, you wouldn't for that double winde. Not with
the lot.

Speaker 17 (02:08:49):
No, I'm not with the lot.

Speaker 2 (02:08:51):
No, I'm not talking about the lot. You're somebody that
would come in and haul that away, would pay you
thirty grand?

Speaker 17 (02:08:58):
Maybe? Yeah, it's in pretty good shape. I think they
would pay thirty grand for it.

Speaker 2 (02:09:02):
Yeah, jeez, I don't know. Maybe anyway, what do you
think three thousand dollars?

Speaker 23 (02:09:11):
Yeah, I mean, I don't blame them at all. I mean,
he gets to a point where you're like this, this
isn't worth it.

Speaker 2 (02:09:15):
The insurance is I'll take my I'll take my chances.
He'll still have the land. How much is the land worth?

Speaker 17 (02:09:24):
That's got to be worth a couple hundred thousand.

Speaker 2 (02:09:26):
Okay, So then I think I have an answer, except
what about liability Brian, I have another question. Can I
buy just liability? Can I buy.

Speaker 23 (02:09:35):
Just just I just did this for somebody else that
decided they wanted to self insure their house. They owned
it out right, didn't want to insure it anymore, but
wanted liability, and you can get comprehensive personal liability. I
was able to find it. It was about eight hundred
bucks a year, though, so.

Speaker 2 (02:09:52):
That's just no key. Liability is important if somebody gets
hurt on your land, or somebody gets hurt in your
house or something. I know you think, well, I'm not
gonna have anybody. You know, somebody could be hiking and
say you had an attractive nuisance or I don't.

Speaker 23 (02:10:06):
Know, Brian, No liability follows you too. It doesn't have
to be on your land. It's not premise liability. This
is personal liability. So if something happens away from the land,
Let's say you had a dog and it bit somebody
and while you're walking around, I mean any that's just
an example, but anything like that would be personal liability.

Speaker 2 (02:10:25):
What was the limit on that? For the eight hundred
a year?

Speaker 23 (02:10:28):
A million?

Speaker 2 (02:10:29):
Wow, Keith, I think you found a solution.

Speaker 17 (02:10:34):
Yeah, I'm sold. I'll give him a call.

Speaker 2 (02:10:37):
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Speaker 13 (02:11:05):
Help.

Speaker 2 (02:11:06):
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home with Remax Alliance three three nine two zero sixteen
twenty two. Hi Tom Martino, your troubleshooter. You have a
question on furnace. Go ahead, Carlos, what's your question?

Speaker 22 (02:11:25):
Hey, Hey Tom? How are you?

Speaker 2 (02:11:26):
Hey? Good man? What's going on?

Speaker 22 (02:11:30):
You know I've been told that it's time to replace
our furnace. We've got a twenty year old Lennox in
the house, and last time we had to check out,
they found some cracks in the heat exchanger. I'm just
wondering if you guys.

Speaker 2 (02:11:41):
Well, if you truly have tracks in it. If you
truly have cracks in it. Many people say that and lie,
but b B, but you probably should replace it anyway,
you'd save money on a twenty year old if you're
going to be in the house a while. How big
and how old is your house?

Speaker 22 (02:11:57):
It's the original furnace from two thousand.

Speaker 2 (02:12:01):
Okay, so your house was built in two thousand and three, correct,
So it's pretty decently insulated. Yeah, then a high efficiency
would save you a ton of money.

Speaker 22 (02:12:14):
Yeah, that's that's kind of what we have in there now.

Speaker 2 (02:12:18):
Well, the high efficiencies now are one hundred times better
than they used to be.

Speaker 17 (02:12:24):
Oh, I'm sure they are.

Speaker 2 (02:12:26):
So what is your question? What is your question, Carlos?

Speaker 22 (02:12:30):
And do any of your recommended places have any kind
of screaming deals or anything like that?

Speaker 2 (02:12:34):
Yeah, well, okay that they're all running certain deals, but
you got to ask them now. I know Plumbline says
if you buy it, they'll throw in that you'll get
a free furnace if you install the AC part of it.
Do you have AC?

Speaker 3 (02:12:47):
Okay, do you have AC? C?

Speaker 22 (02:12:50):
Yes, I do have AC and it's relatively new.

Speaker 2 (02:12:53):
Then you don't need that, so that but you still okay,
then fix It twenty four to seven is always running
certain specials. But if you call and talk to them,
tell them that Tom told me that you would. I'm serious.
Now Tom told me today. Check with him that you

(02:13:13):
would give me a very special deal because I called in.
I have a twenty year old unit and I really
need it. All right, then then call eight eight eight
Heating dot com as well.

Speaker 22 (02:13:26):
Okay, they're all.

Speaker 2 (02:13:27):
Good people, Carlos. Would you do me a favor and
let me know what you do?

Speaker 22 (02:13:32):
Yeah, yeah, thank you.

Speaker 2 (02:13:34):
I appreciate that. Thank you very much. Okay, and discount
bat dot com. Remember discount bat dot com when they're
not here seven to zero nine seven nine, twenty three,
twenty two. Are you going to do any specials for
today only or for today and tomorrow for the rest
of the week. You want to do anything or not,
It's up to you.

Speaker 13 (02:13:50):
Yeah. I hadn't thought about what we could do.

Speaker 2 (02:13:52):
Well, let's think of it right now. If they go
to discount bat dot com they upload they mentioned the show,
what can you do for them today and tomorrow? If
they call in today at or go to.

Speaker 5 (02:14:00):
The website free LVP floor in a hall bathroom if
they do.

Speaker 2 (02:14:05):
The shower Okay, So they do the shower conversion, they
get a free floor. Ye, luxury vinyl planking.

Speaker 13 (02:14:11):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (02:14:11):
Oh, that's cool. People do the shower conversion nine eight
eighty eight, you get the free floor. Okay. Discount bath
dot com or seventy zero nine seven nine twenty three,
twenty two. Pat Jolliffe with my company Wave eight Wealth Management,
our question here is minimum to invest. We hear this
a lot.

Speaker 12 (02:14:30):
Pat.

Speaker 2 (02:14:31):
It makes me nervous when people ask that because and
by the way we are when it comes to investing,
your money is with ours. Okay, so and we're not middlemen,
and people want me to explain that, and I don't
have a lot of time. But middlemen means we don't
place your portfolio with other advisors and then make a
fee in between, a middleman fee. So there's that's ninety

(02:14:53):
eight percent of the model. When people say they're a
financial advisor, they're not. They take your money and they
might even do a good job. I'm not saying they don't,
but they place it with a bigger advisor. That's not
ideal for a lot of people. And you also want
to know people have skin in the game, and a
lot of times their own money is not even invested.
Our money is one hundred percent invested in this company,
our investable funds and right along with yours and no middleman.

(02:15:17):
Now here's what I want to know. When people ask
minimum amount, that makes me nervous. Do you know why?
Because it sounds like maybe they don't have money? And
don't you think people need an emergency fund before they
even think about investing? Okay, I mean, so what would
you say would be an emergency fund?

Speaker 15 (02:15:31):
Six months worth of expenses?

Speaker 2 (02:15:33):
Probably? Yeah? And then what else? Out of debt? High
interest debt. If you have high interest debt, don't don't
invest because that that's taken away from your return.

Speaker 15 (02:15:43):
To pay off a fifteen percent credit card, it's the
same thing as earning fifteen percent.

Speaker 2 (02:15:46):
That's exactly right. So high interest debt get rid of,
and then of course, have some emergency funds before you
even think about it. I'm Tom Martino and you can
reach us at three h three seven seveny one.

Speaker 3 (02:15:59):
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