The Troubleshooter 5-13-25

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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As we can.

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The Troubleshooter Show.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
No Tom Martino, Hello Tom Martino here, Welcome to the
only show of it's kind anywhere. And for those of
you streaming, we have the studio in the bottom part
of the frame where ugly Mark Major's there and his crew,
and then I have the remote ship here at my studio,
and next to me are my two sisters who are

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caretakers for the next couple of weeks.

Speaker 4 (00:47):
Mark, how is that?

Speaker 5 (00:48):
Man?

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Private nurses, how's that? That's pretty incredible? I don't get
you don't get better than that.

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And uh, they're real, They're really, they really are. By
the way, nurses and respiratory therapist. They know what they're doing,
so I have good, good help. And by the way,
if you're just tuning in again, I don't I don't
ever want to make the show about me, but it's
pretty obvious. I've been in and out a lot recently
and Mark was taking over and really it was cancer.

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That's what it is, pancreatic cancer, which is normally pretty
much a death sentence, and by some miraculous turn of events,
mine turned out to be totally operable and isolated and
the surgery went well. But we've been through a lot
of ups and downs with the chemo and all that,

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and now I was declared cancer free as a result
of the curtain two weeks ago. It was a Monday,
on the twenty eighth of April. And I just the
reason I'm mentioning this is I've had marks so many
wonderful well wishers and I want to tell them that
I thank them, and I'm trying to answer them as
I can, but i want to say thank you very

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much and we appreciate it. Unless you have any specific questions,
I'm not going to belabor you with it, but I
do want to say this that I'm putting myself out
there if you ever need help or navigating the system,
or questions about treatment or anything like that.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
You know, I'm a research dog man.

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I went into this thing and I consulted everyone everywhere.

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And if you are going through this, or you just.

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Got slapped in the head with the diagnosis, or you're
in the middle of chemo and you have questions that
are non medical, I would love to help you, and
you can. I'm going to give you this number that
comes right to my cell phone, absolutely directly to my
cell phone. It's a Google number seven four seven nine
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nine fifty two eighty and you will get me directly.

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It'll come right to.

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My cell phone even when we're off the air. Seven
four seven nine nine nine fifty two eighty. Right now,
I want to talk to.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
Robert.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Robert had an issue with a lean from yesterday. Now, Robert,
let's let's go back.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
Mark. Was this when I was taking Oh yeah, the contractor.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
We didn't even get to his call though, so just
started from scratch.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Brother, all right, we'll do that. Why don't you start
Mark since you handled it to begin with?

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Well, no, what I'm saying, Robert, what's going on?

Speaker 4 (03:16):
Man?

Speaker 6 (03:17):
Hey? So, so I have a friend that has some property.
I think it's to the north of the city. But anyways,
he found out that he's got two leans. It's to
a person that has his same name, same exact name.
First and last thing.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Oh wait wait a second, A lean on his property.
What are you saying, even if it's his.

Speaker 6 (03:37):
Six that's what. He's got a lean on his property,
but there are to a person. It's not his and
he's been to.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
The wait wait wait, wait, wait wait wait, what do
you mean it's not his it's not his property. I
am puzzled.

Speaker 6 (03:51):
It's not his lean. He doesn't know, he doesn't know,
oh anything.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Well, first of all, Robert, you're confusing me, because a
lean goes on a property address, A lien is not
on a person. So is there a lean on the property.
He owns a lean on the property, and why is
there a lean on there? Has he done any research?

Speaker 6 (04:12):
Yeah, he's well, actually he's trying to get you. He
was going to pass the property to his brother, but
that's how he found out that there is.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
Robert, how old how old is the lean? How old
is it?

Speaker 6 (04:26):
He thinks it about two years.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
And and he's never gone to court for it. No
one's ever taken him to court, and he's the sole owner. Well,
then they never perfected it, and it should drop off.
And any title company in the world should know that
all a leen is is all aleen is as a
place in line to collect your share of the equity.

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But if they did not perfect that, as Mark said,
if they did not try to foreclose, it drops off.
But Robert, I have I have so many questions. How
much is it for? How much is the lean for?

Speaker 6 (05:04):
So there's two leans, one for two thousand and one
for fifteen hundred, but they are not his. They belong
to a person that that I mean, it's not to
It's probably the person that owes the money is someone
that has the same last name and the same first name.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Okay, I get it.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
Here's what happens when people owe money. This sounds like
small judgments that were gotten against an individual. And Mark said,
leans follow the property, and they do. However, when you
do get a lean on a person, if we got
a lean against you, Robert, we can then take that lean.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
Excuse me, a judgment against you.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Let's say we went to small claims court and got
a judgment for two grand I can then take that
judgment and turn it into a lean on anything you own,
including a motor vehicle. So that's probably what happened here.
It's probably not for work on there. Now, if he
knows for sure that it was on there in error,
and he doesn't even know who these vendors are, he

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can have it removed with what's called a quiet title action.
Maybe we get Brad O'Brien to talk about that. It's
a quiet title action. Yes, it's it's very simple, but
you do have to do something about it. This is
a shotgun approach they use when they get a judgment.

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They go out for everyone with a similar name, and
if there's property with equity or even without equity, they
put leans on those properties. But those leans are simply placeholders.
They can't nothing happens to them unless the creditor tries
to collect on them.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
So let's get.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Brad O'Brien up and ask Brad about this, this quiet
title action and what you have to do to remove this.
So hold on, Robert, and that's what we'll do. Now, Mark,
we have a guest today. I noticed another ugly fellow
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Three oh three eighty six two five five five four. Listen,
I have some information on a quiet title action. Let
me bring Robert up. Robert, our real estate attorney's not available.
But I went back to some past cases here and
I took some notes on one similar case that you had,
that that that we had similar to yours. First and foremost,

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I have to ask these questions, basic answers. How does
he know that they're not his?

Speaker 4 (12:10):
We have the guy up.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Is he still there, Robert? How do we know the
leans are not his? All right, I'll tell you what
he's Just tell me he's not there, and then I
can move on.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
Just don't leave me hanging. Is he there or not?
Let's move on?

Speaker 9 (12:29):
All right?

Speaker 3 (12:30):
Thank you, and thank you for answering me, Kachina, I
certainly appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Let's go on. Let's just move on.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
But with a quiet title action, you confirm that it's
not you. If you really don't think it's you, then
what you do is you move on to the next step,
and that is you contact them and ask them to
remove it. If they don't remove it and they know
it's an error, you're going to have some damages coming your.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
Way if they refuse.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
But you can prepare what's called a quiet title action.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
What you do is you simply.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
All right, good, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
Robert.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
How do you know that these leans don't belong to
your friend?

Speaker 6 (13:06):
Because he went I think he went to the Department
of Treasury and he went all over the place and
they told him that those weren't I guess they have
some type of account number and they recognize that.

Speaker 10 (13:18):
Okay, he is well.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
And if they didn't get a judgment in the last year,
I mean he's way past the dates.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Right, right, So if they didn't do anything, if you
simply have a lean on your property, why does he
care about them?

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Let me ask you.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
That, because he wants to transfer the home to his brother. Yes, okay,
did he ask the creditors to remove the leans?

Speaker 6 (13:46):
I don't think he got to that point. But they
won't give him any information because it's not his information,
so they know that they're not.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
No, I get it, I get it.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
He has to contact Are they two different creditors or
are they the same creditor for each one?

Speaker 6 (14:03):
It's two different ones.

Speaker 4 (14:05):
That's very odd, very very odd.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Okay, what he has to do he has to make
a record of contacting each party and asking them to
either provide evidence that he is the debtor or to
remove it. And he has to do that so he
can he can keep a file and if they do
not answer him, or if they do not release it,

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then what he has to do is he has to
file a quiet it's called quiet like noisy, it's quiet
a quiet title action.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
And what he.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Does is it's it's really a lawsuit and all it
is is a declaration filed with the court asking that
the leans be removed because they're not his. And he
puts down his name, his address, his social and he
and he he tells them it's not his. He sends

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those copies of the documents into the courts against the creditor.
Now that creditor now has to answer the complaint. This
should not be done on his own.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
It's basically a very it is.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
A mini lawsuit. That's exactly what it is. And what
you're saying is this is not mine, remove it, and they.

Speaker 8 (15:29):
Have to legally.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
Well, I would get Brad O'Brien. Yes, you need an attorney.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
Unfortunately, you can figure it out on your own if
you want. You know, you can look up quiet title
action to remove leans.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
The other thing to look at is notice of contest
and that's where you'll simply serve them basically a thirty
day notice and they're going to have to be required
to file a lawsuit against you within that thirty days
or they need to get rid of the lean.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Okay, yeah, and all right, and hey, mark that notice
that you just talked about, Yes, when how much time
does he have to do that?

Speaker 2 (16:15):
Well, it doesn't matter once you figure out the liens
on there, and this is only if it's invalid one
invalidly and like this guy's saying, you can actually just
google Colorado Notice of contest on a lean and basically
fill that out, have them served with that, and basically
within thirty days they have to file a lawsuit or

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drop it, and then if they don't, you can start
seeking damages or your brother or whoever it is.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
Now, by the way, there is also something called a
bush up or vessel a wrongful lean.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
So here's what he should do.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
First.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Before you do what Mark suggested or I suggested with
quiet title, the very first thing you should do is
go to the county clerk and ask what is the
easiest way to expunge this wrongful lean.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
Sometimes they have a form you can fill.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
Out, which is a motion, but they help you because
it's all there and you just have to fill it
out like the lean on a date and how much
it is, and then you simply make a statement it's
not mine, and then you.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
File it with the clerk.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
The clerk then sends notice out to the other party
and will expunge it if they don't answer. So some
counties do that, some do not, unfortunately, and I've always
thought this was unfortunate.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
There are no easy ways to clear up title.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Anyone can put a lien on your property for any
reason whatsoever, and it's up to you to get it removed.
And I always thought that was quite unfair. I even
thought that people who put liens on your homes and
make you do this should be responsible for your legal
fees because you're and they're fat and happy, and all
of a sudden you get like a lean on your

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property and it's done.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
It's either done in error, true error, or it's.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
Done because they find fifty Jack Smith's so they say,
you know what, let's put liens on all fifty of them.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
And they do that.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
Now Mark Parker Police Department. I don't understand what's going
on with this.

Speaker 10 (18:25):
A couple of days after Thanksgiving, around five thirty pm,
thirty four degrees, my son was playing lacrosse that afternoon
and he was driving my Honda Cord Older one without headlights.
He forgot to turn on the headlights. He gets pulled
over for.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
A d You want what time of day was this?

Speaker 4 (18:46):
What time of day was there?

Speaker 11 (18:47):
Five PM? A couple of days after.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
Things get okay, So his headlights were off.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Where's the DUI come in? Did I? Did I hear that?

Speaker 3 (18:56):
Right?

Speaker 4 (18:56):
Well, that's what I want to know.

Speaker 10 (18:59):
So he over on Chambers and then he pulls over
into a side street. He swipes the curb a little
bit and the police officer, brand new officer that just
passed FTO thirty days ago, hired in June, officer Walter Copeland.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
He uh, none of that matters, you know, Mark.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
It doesn't matter when he passed his test or when
he went on duty.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
What matters is your your son's blood alcohol.

Speaker 10 (19:30):
He comes to the window and the first thing he
says out of his mouth is how much did you have.

Speaker 11 (19:34):
To drink tonight? He says none, Well.

Speaker 10 (19:38):
Your eyes are red. Step out of the car. I'm
gonna ask you one more time.

Speaker 11 (19:42):
How much? How much did you have to drink tonight?

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Nothing?

Speaker 12 (19:46):
He does a right, he does a CFS and he
claimed that he had mistagnus a gues.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
He never took the breathalyzer. Where are we going?

Speaker 11 (20:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (20:03):
He takes them into custody, takes them into Parker PD.
And he blows, He blows triple zeros, releases them, releases him.
He's sixteen years old. He releases him into my custody.
And the officer says, I made a mistake. So, okay,
here I am here. I am trying to sue in
civil court in small claims for what seven thousand?

Speaker 2 (20:27):
What are you suing for? What are you suing for?

Speaker 4 (20:30):
Mark?

Speaker 10 (20:31):
False arrest, false imprisonment violation and Fourth Amendment?

Speaker 3 (20:34):
Right, there's no false that's not a false arrest and
false for Is that a small claims avenue?

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Whatsoever?

Speaker 4 (20:42):
But Mark, really, I want to analyze this. I know you, Mark,
I know you're angry. I know you're upset, and I
would be too.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
But just because the officer made a mistake, the officer
only has to have a suspicion. There's no way an
officer in every arrest, in every case, can have a
foregone conclusion. And that is a slam dunk conviction. So
the officer did not do a false arrest or a
false imprisonment. He did an intentional arrest and an intentional

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hold holding.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
It's not false.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
False is when they know it to be false, they
know it not to be valid. But they do it
for their own personal reasons, and or they do it
because they're vindictive or vicious.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
You don't have a case here.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
And no, no, I have another question, though, Mark, I
really do now, and I'm not trying to put you down.
I truly want to dissect the thinking process here.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
What are your damages?

Speaker 10 (21:40):
Moral damages for a success?

Speaker 2 (21:43):
What does that mean?

Speaker 11 (21:44):
Driver?

Speaker 4 (21:45):
What does that mean?

Speaker 8 (21:46):
What is moral?

Speaker 10 (21:47):
What of his mind? Being arrested for no cause?

Speaker 12 (21:51):
Putting hands?

Speaker 10 (21:53):
What police car is saying that he is under arrest?

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah, I'd be pissed.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
And so what are the damages? Did you go to
a psychiatrist? Did do a psychiatrist? Say your son suffers?

Speaker 2 (22:07):
What you have to have damages?

Speaker 13 (22:11):
Okay, violation?

Speaker 3 (22:12):
Tell me about Tell me what right? Tell me what violation?
What rights were violated?

Speaker 4 (22:18):
Mark?

Speaker 2 (22:19):
What rights?

Speaker 10 (22:21):
Fourth Amendments?

Speaker 11 (22:22):
Right was violated? Taken into coach?

Speaker 3 (22:24):
No, no, don't say fourth No, don't say Fourth Amendment.
Don't say Fourth Amendment. Tell me the rights that were violated.

Speaker 11 (22:31):
He was seized when he shouldn't have been seized.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
Okay, let me ask you something, Mark, do you think
every single time someone is arrested it results in a conviction?

Speaker 5 (22:45):
No.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
Okay, So the ones that don't result in a conviction,
are they all seized under false pretenses?

Speaker 4 (22:54):
Are they all violated?

Speaker 14 (23:00):
Most likely not?

Speaker 3 (23:04):
But you feel your do you feel the officer? Here's
what I'm thinking. Do you think the officer targeted your
son and did it vindictively?

Speaker 11 (23:15):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (23:17):
Why?

Speaker 10 (23:17):
I think he was uneducated? He was his first arrest.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
No, that's not what I said. I said, did he
target the boy?

Speaker 3 (23:26):
And did he do it vindictively to cause pain and
suffering to your son? Knowing that the chargers were false?
That's what false imprisonment and false arrest is. Okay, you
really believe, and you really believe Mark, Mark. Listen, if
the officer had a reasonable suspicion your son had been

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drinking and arrested him and it turned out that your
son blew zeros and was not high or stoned, the
system worked. The system worked going after the process. There
is nothing wrong with what happened it, you know from
just what you're telling me. If that officer he might

(24:09):
have been doubtful and not know and he did this
for safety reasons. But unless Mark, here's the bottom line, bro,
You're you're gonna lose at every turn. You're not gonna
get anything. You're just not How long ago was this
It was.

Speaker 11 (24:26):
A couple of days after Thanksgiving.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
I would if I and you have been trying to
fight this this whole time.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
You've been trying to file a lawsuit.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
Correct, you can file a lawsuit against the officer easily.

Speaker 4 (24:41):
Why didn't you just hire an attorney to do that?

Speaker 11 (24:46):
I need a recommendation. I'm calling you.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
Do Okay, Okay, I'm gonna call Joelasara And since you
called us, listen, even though I disagree with you, I
want to at least give you the avenue to research this.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
And I want to know what Joela Zarra has to say.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
Tom.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
I just I don't know. If I i'd be very upset,
and I know you would too if this happened to
your kid. Yes, but I want to bring it at
I want to bring it one more step. How about
if it was, like I don't know, in Detroit or
Michigan five years ago, and it was a black kid
getting pulled over by a white officer with the exact
same thing. I mean, there could be lawsuits, there could

(25:26):
be protests, there could be a million things going on.
I'd be very upset if I was this guy as well,
whether or not i'd bring a lawsuit that that has
nothing to do with it, but I might bring the
hell out of that cop.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
Yeah you know, listen, I know I know that I
would be upset, so Mark, I don't want to, but
I would know. There is no lawsuit here, there is
no there are no damages.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
Your son.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Has he been to a psychiatrist or a psychologist once
over this incident?

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Once?

Speaker 4 (26:01):
Okay?

Speaker 15 (26:01):
Then how are you going to prove any kind of
emotional trauma? And in real life is it actually affected him?
But let's get Mark Mark real quick. In real life,
forget about if he went to a shrink or anything.
Is he carrying on his normal or did this really
affect him outside of the half hour or hour he
went through.

Speaker 10 (26:20):
Oh he's an honor student, he's too smart for this.
So the fact that has happened, Yeah, I'm pissed.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
He got a break.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yeah, I know you are. I got to take a break, Mark.
Let's get an attorney on who handles these kinds of defenses,
and he has sued police, and we'll talk to him
right after this.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
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Speaker 4 (27:23):
We're trying to get an attorney on for Mark. Until
we do, let's go over to Carl and talk to Carl.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
Carl, what's going on with your medical bill?

Speaker 16 (27:31):
I was at an event in uh Newport Beach a
couple months ago and had a little medical event, nothing
nothing big, just dizzy, and paramedics showed up and said, hey,
can we check you out real quick?

Speaker 3 (27:51):
But wait a minute, Carl, when you say you had
an event nothing too big and paramedics showed up, are
they walking down the street and see you?

Speaker 4 (27:58):
Or I mean, how did they show up? Who called them?

Speaker 16 (28:01):
Someone called them?

Speaker 14 (28:02):
Someone called them, probably the hotel.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Okay, why what were you exhibiting? Why would they call?
I would like like somebody looked at you and said,
call paramedics.

Speaker 4 (28:14):
What were you doing when.

Speaker 14 (28:15):
They said that, I I I got busy.

Speaker 16 (28:19):
I didn't really pass out, but I kind uh very
close to passing out.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Okay, but did anyone observe this?

Speaker 14 (28:28):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, a number of people?

Speaker 4 (28:32):
Okay, okay, got it?

Speaker 3 (28:34):
And uh so someone called paramedics and what happened?

Speaker 16 (28:39):
They came, They checked me out. They said, we think
you should go to the hospital. And I said, no,
not a chance, that's not going to happen. I'm not
there's nothing, there is really nothing wrong with me. And
they said, well, you gotta you gotta talk with somebody

(28:59):
at the hospit biddle or whatever to deny services or whatever.
And so I did all that and.

Speaker 14 (29:08):
They went about their way. I went, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
How did you how did you talk to people at
the hospital? Was it on on a cell phone or how.

Speaker 16 (29:17):
Yeah, on the paramedic I think he brought it up
on on like a tablet or something.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Okay, And you denied and you so you opted out
of further.

Speaker 14 (29:29):
Chair medical advice.

Speaker 11 (29:32):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
They wanted to be not okay, I know what that is.
They were doing that so they're not blamed if something
happened to you.

Speaker 14 (29:40):
They were okay, exactly got it.

Speaker 16 (29:43):
And so I mean, they did hook me up to a.

Speaker 14 (29:49):
Mobile EKG. They checked my blood.

Speaker 16 (29:52):
Pressure, checked my blood sugar, and everything was normal with
the well everything was normal. Blood sugar was a little
bit low, but everything was normal. And I went, now, okay, Well,
so I figured I figured paramedics showed up. This is

(30:16):
part of you know, public servant type stuff, and that
you know it's taxpayer funded. I get a bill in
the mail, like five hundreds. At first, they wanted to
know about my insurance, and I just ignored that.

Speaker 11 (30:34):
Well, then they send me a.

Speaker 16 (30:35):
Bill an invoice and I can pay them one hundred
and twenty dollars because they think I'm uninsured. If I
tell them I have insurance, they want like five hundred
and eighty some dollars.

Speaker 7 (30:50):
So I have a question real quick. Did you end
up giving them your address? It sounds like you didn't
give them your insurance information.

Speaker 16 (30:57):
I didn't give them insurance information. I don't think I did, no,
But they took my address and everything they wanted, all
that info, and they.

Speaker 7 (31:05):
Clearly understand that you denied their services.

Speaker 16 (31:09):
Well, I mean I allowed them to check me out,
but that was it. I wasn't going to the hospital here.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
But they did they ask you. Here's what I need
to know.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
When they first showed up, did they say do you
mind if we check you out?

Speaker 4 (31:23):
Or did they just go to work?

Speaker 16 (31:25):
They said, do you mind if we check you out?

Speaker 6 (31:28):
All right?

Speaker 2 (31:28):
That was the.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Approval you gave, and you could have said no. And
the problem here is if they came up and started
treating you without you saying anything or doing anything, you
couldn't have been held responsible for that. But if they
came up and said, sir, we were told you're a
little dizzy or you're a little lops at whatever, and we.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Want to check you out, is that okay?

Speaker 3 (31:51):
And if you gave them approval, even though you thought
it was it was some kind of charity thing or
public service thing, that could be construed as approval. And furthermore,
if you opted out of the care, it showed that
you probably were looked at. I think it's going to
be hard, but they could definitely not bill you for

(32:15):
just showing up without you calling, and if you're just
there and they do it, they don't. They can't get
you to pay for it. So where does it stand
right now?

Speaker 16 (32:27):
Well, they sent me an invoice, then that's pretty much
where it's at.

Speaker 14 (32:31):
And I just haven't I.

Speaker 16 (32:33):
Just want I just figured I gotta figure out what
I need to do with it. And I just thought
it was I mean, it's basically the fire department showed up.

Speaker 14 (32:44):
If fire department showed up and your house is.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
On fire.

Speaker 16 (32:48):
And they put the fire out, you don't pay the
fire department for putting the fire up.

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Is at right, Kelly, I think we're getting Marco Bendonelli.

(34:54):
We are going to get Marco one yet. Yeah, So
there's two different things we're gonna talk about Mark with
that issue with the Parker Police Department. In Mark, I've
got a little different insight I want to give you,
But we are going to get Marco on I part
ways with Tom on one part of it. I'd be
very well, you know what Tom said, he'd be upset too,

(35:16):
so that's not even fair of me to see. I
don't think there's any lawsuit there, but I definitely want
to talk to Marco on it. What I would want
to do is make sure that cop gets retrained. And
if you're just joining us. Basically, Mark's kid was pulled
over coming back from a lacrosse game and he saw
the lights come on. Hey Mark, why did they pull
him over? What was the original reason they saw him

(35:37):
hit a curb or what happened?

Speaker 10 (35:40):
He was driving without his headlights?

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Ah, I got you. That's a reason to get pulled over.

Speaker 10 (35:46):
And then he hit a curb and he was over.
I got you as much right to the possible as possible.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Yeah, I got it. Then he hit a curb. The
police officer pulled him over, said he had red eyes,
and did he do a field for bread? I mean,
did he touch his nose? He did all that? And
are they saying.

Speaker 7 (36:04):
He's saying my question? I mean, did they breathalyze him
on scene? Yeah?

Speaker 10 (36:10):
If they breathalyzed them on scene, I want to be
calling you. But they took him, they arrested him and
took a much mugshot, and they were about to do
fingerprints or they did, Well.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
You just brought something up. I wonder they prints, So
I wonder how that works. I'm gonna ask Marco that
when we get him on That's very interesting. If you
get arrested for a DUI, they do a mug shot,
they fingerprint you, you are now in the system, no
matter what I mean. Do they have to get rid

(36:42):
of that stuff or that's just part of living in Parker,
Colorado or anywhere else in the country for that matter.
I don't know how that works. That. That's an interesting
point to this. I didn't think of Dmitri. What do
you think of that?

Speaker 17 (36:57):
Well, I'm interested in seeing if if he was actually
charged with something or did they eventually did a breathalyzer
or a blood test.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Oh, I'm sorry you missed the first You missed that
cost you know. So they pull him over, just like
you said, they for whatever reason, they don't give him
a roadside breathalyzer. It could because of his age. I
don't know how that that consent works for that either,
because he's sixteen. They get him to the station, he
blows zeros and basically the cop did he kind of apologized, right,

(37:27):
or said I made a mistake.

Speaker 11 (37:28):
No, he made a mistake.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Apology, So he said I made a mistake. Well, that's
somewhat of an apology. Mark, I know you're pissed. I'd
be pissed too, But I mean that's some acknowledgment of something.
At least he.

Speaker 10 (37:40):
Charged them and processed fingerprints before he blew zeros.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
That does not make any sense.

Speaker 7 (37:46):
I mean, why wouldn't they just have him use the
breathalyzer on scene? Did he deny to use it?

Speaker 2 (37:51):
I don't know if they can at such team.

Speaker 7 (37:55):
They bring him back saying he asked for him, So
why would they bring him back to the police apartment.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
I don't know how it works with minors, Henry, I
just don't know, but I bet Marco does when we
get him on. But I'm more interested in everything right now.
First of all, Mark, I'm going to lay out I
don't think you have a lawsuit at all. I don't
know what your damages would be. There might be something
to where your rights were violated, but that's not going
to put a lot of money in your pocket. It
might correct a circumstance, but really, what I think is

(38:23):
it's a new cop. Just like you said, I would
make sure his commanding officer makes sure to look at
the body cam, which I know most police forces wear
now they have to wear him and they have to
be on basically every stop. And I think Parker Castle
Rock they all fall under that in Douglas County and
the dash cam, and I would see where it went wrong.

(38:46):
I mean, is it possible, Mark, your kid came out
and he's nervous and he's kind of tripping around, and
maybe he does have red eyes. I mean, I don't know.
I do find it very hard and I'd love to
hear from a cop. I would love to hear from
a copper retimeired cop. How many times did you bring
someone in on DUI all the way to the station

(39:07):
and they blow zeros? I would assume most cops that
does not happen to but I could be wrong.

Speaker 17 (39:13):
Well, Gary, you know you remember last Monday we had
a special guest here, retired Aurora lieutenant Gary. We can
give him a call if you want and kind of
get him to weigh in on this topic.

Speaker 4 (39:23):
I wouldn't find that at all. I mean, I love
the topic.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
What I'm even more curious about from a legal Standpointoh,
I don't care what the crime is. Just hold tight, Mark.
As soon as we get Marco up. I promise you
can ask the attorney all the questions in the world.
But what I'm really curious about, I don't care what
crime it is. But you get arrested, you get fingerprinted.
Maybe I don't even know. Do they take DNA? I

(39:46):
don't even know what they can do now. So whatever
they take, you know, a hair follicle, a DNA, a
blood test, whatever they do, a mugshot, do they keep
all that when you're one hundred percent innocent? Are you
now on file? I guess you. My guess is yes.
But we'll find out. But no charges were even they

(40:08):
brought him in on suspicion of dui. But the fact
no charges were brought. I understand if chargers are brought
and you lose the case, that's still there. That's public
record in Colorado courts. So and so got arrested for
a DUI in two thousand and five, even though even
though he never was found guilty. That is in Colorado

(40:31):
courts forever. But in a case where the where no
charges were ever brought, would they keep the fingerpriis like
my daughter's getting ready to graduate from law school. And
notice how I like throwing that in because I'm very
proud of my twenty three year old daughter getting ready
to do was from law school. But listen, she had
to go back through when applying to the bar, and

(40:54):
literally list anytime she was arrested had nothing to do
with guilt, nothing to do with anything. And that doesn't
look good. I was pulled over for DUI when I
was sixteen. I mean, really, no matter what, that doesn't
look good.

Speaker 7 (41:08):
So, according to Tom's best friend here Ai, it says,
in January first of twenty twenty two, Colorado lah mandated
that the sealed or the records would be sealed automatically
if no criminal charges were filed within one year of
the arrest.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
Okay, so nothing filed, so it does go back to
filed and in this case, so that's good news, Mark,
that's really good news. It's not even gonna be in
Colorado courts because nothing was filed.

Speaker 7 (41:35):
So it's a sealed record. But it does mention up
here that it would not show up on any background
check obviously.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
Yeah. So but once again with the bar, and this
will be another great question for Marco because he's an attorney.
It's like, I'm telling you my daughter was listing stuff.
I said, you might as well list when you snuck
your boyfriend in or when you snuck out of the house.
I mean, like, really, you might as well list if
you're going to list something that dumb and I don't
remember what it was. She's like, listen, you just don't understand.

(42:05):
I gotta list everything.

Speaker 17 (42:06):
Can you imagine how many pages you would have had
to append to that application?

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Let's take a break. Three oh three seven, one, three eight,
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Speaker 14 (43:04):
Ay three oh.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
Three seven one three eight two five five three zero
three Martino, you've been ripped off for taking care of
you know. We're having a discussion here behind the scenes,
and it's very interesting to me. I come from this
on this call with this DUI. The kid blows zeros.

(43:27):
I'd be very upset as a father, and I don't understand.
We have Chopper, he's one of our deputies. He was
uh he was in Denver, Denver PD. He's telling me.
I asked him, I said, how many times have you
pulled over a sixteen year old and you bring them
down to the station and they blow zeros? He says thousands, thousands.

(43:48):
I would assume the entire Denver Police Department should all
be retrained at that point. If you literally have pulled
a thousand kids out of their car, he gave them
a roadside and I'm going off of what mark the
dad said, and then brought them down and they blow zeros.
Then you say I make a mistake a thousand times.

(44:10):
That seems pretty bad. That seems pretty bad, and I
wonder if that's true. I would love for a current
officer in Denver to call me up three oh three
seven one three eight two five five. You don't have
to say your name. I promise you know. We have
no tracking method, And I would love to know if
you know of these thousands of people that have been

(44:31):
pulled over at the age of sixteen that blow zeros
and wanted a roadside right there by the car, but
the cop refused to give it to them. Now, that
simply could be because of age, and I'm hoping Marco Bendinelli,
you know what, Henry, you're under thirty. What do you
think about this whole call, seriously, what do you think
about it? You know, Mark, I really.

Speaker 7 (44:53):
Believe that the cops should be breathalyzing a lot of
these people that they're suspicious. You know, they need to
have it out there. Driving under the influence is wrong,
and I think that a lot of people get away
with it and they shouldn't.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
But I really disagree with bringing them into the station.

Speaker 7 (45:08):
That just seems so bizarre to me and like a
policy issue. They should have some sort of procedure just
to breathalyze them on scene.

Speaker 4 (45:15):
Yeah, I wonder why not unless if, once again, it's got.

Speaker 7 (45:18):
To do with the aide as far as him being
like traumatized or having any emotional damages.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
This kind of thing happened to me when I was
sixteen years old.

Speaker 7 (45:27):
What happened, I just you know, I got stopped for
a DUI check. Obviously I wasn't drinking or anything, but
the cop just took a look at me. I talked
to the guy, I cooperated, and he told me to
have a good night.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Yeah. So was it at a roadside or to pull
you over?

Speaker 11 (45:40):
Well?

Speaker 7 (45:40):
I was driving through through Granby in winter Park that
kind of area.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
Oh yeah, that little town before you go up and
you know where.

Speaker 7 (45:47):
The killdozer was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that sound right there.
And you know he pulled me over. He said that
I kind of swerved over the lane. I apologize, told
him that I was driving back from Utah.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
He was just checking. Yeah, he was just checking with me.

Speaker 7 (45:59):
And you know, if you would have wanted to breathalyze me,
I would have consented to it right there and you know,
gone on my way.

Speaker 11 (46:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (46:05):
But he didn't drag you into the police station.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
He didn't.

Speaker 4 (46:08):
Can't you imagine, Dmitri? I mean, what's your opinion.

Speaker 17 (46:12):
Well, you know, it's not an easy opinion to form
based on the limited amount of information that we've been given.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
I would love to see pat one side of the story.

Speaker 17 (46:20):
Yeah, but we can easily get the true side, or
the or the undisputable side of the story by looking
at the badgecam video, which is available for approximately twenty
five dollars. You're sure about that, Yeah, I bought. I
recently bought for three different events in Denver. I bought
three three badge cam records from Denver Police.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
That you do that, I'll pay for easy. I'd love
to do that. Do I have to be Do we
have to have the call or do it because he's related?

Speaker 17 (46:46):
No, it's public information, so anybody can do it.

Speaker 4 (46:48):
Wait a minute, I can go pull dash cam.

Speaker 17 (46:51):
Yes for roughly nobody has not dash cams but body camera. Yeah.
So yeah, you don't have to be part of that event.
Anybody open with twenty five dollars can do so. In Denver,
it's a very simple form. You a partner.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
I'm sure they have an analogous system in Parker.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
Right.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
I love that? So Mark here can give me Mark?
Did you ask for the dash cam? By any way? Bodycam?

Speaker 10 (47:18):
I have all I have all the records, I have
all the dash I have dash cam, and I have bodycam.

Speaker 6 (47:25):
Sev.

Speaker 11 (47:26):
It is muted.

Speaker 10 (47:27):
You can't, you can't hear?

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Well, what's it looking? What does it look like when
you look at it? Does it look like he could
be drunk? Be honest, No, I mean we already know
he wasn't. But what I'm saying is, why why do
you think TAKP brought him in? Just the bus balls? Honestly?
Why do you think so.

Speaker 6 (47:47):
On?

Speaker 10 (47:47):
An uneducated?

Speaker 4 (47:51):
Just uneducated?

Speaker 8 (47:52):
Who's that?

Speaker 2 (47:53):
On? Who's online? Six? Hold on? Mark?

Speaker 4 (47:55):
Who's online?

Speaker 2 (47:56):
Six?

Speaker 6 (47:57):
Well?

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Then you retrain the guy. He is brand new, like
you said, so you have them retrained. We have a
retired officer online. Ten Actually, let's bring up shamee.

Speaker 4 (48:06):
Hey Shane, what is have you been listening to this?

Speaker 14 (48:11):
Yeah? Hi, Mark, I have?

Speaker 2 (48:12):
So what is your opinion? First of all, I've got
someone that I know personally that says, when he was
a cop in Denver, this is like normal. If there's
a sixteen year old and he's got red eyes or
swerves or something, you bring him into the station for
a dui and they blow zeros all the time. I
just I can't even imagine that's real.

Speaker 14 (48:36):
Well I don't know that it's just specifically limited to
sixteen year olds, but there are occasions when you do
bring people in and they do blow zeros because they
failed the roadside jazz.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
And then what makes it? Why wouldn't you give a
sixteen year old a roadside breathalyzer? Do you have to
because of their age they're a minor? Bring them in
for some consent reason with their parents or why, and
they just do it right there.

Speaker 14 (49:03):
Well, so there's two there's two things. Unless they've changed
the loft and wait, not ten years ago but I
don't think they have. So there's there's two things that
issue here. There's roadside maneuvers that you typically give people, right,
they call them SFST standard field sobriety as that's the
walk and turn, touch your nose, that type of stuff.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
Yeah, but don't they usually do that, then a breathalyzer
like both or you're saying if they fail that, they
generally don't go to the roadside breathalyzer.

Speaker 14 (49:34):
Well, so this way they were right.

Speaker 6 (49:38):
Man.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
My only experience here is I watch cops. I love
that show Cops, and usually what I see is someone
fails touching their nose. I mean, it's evident they're drunk,
and then they're usually asked do you want to blow
into this? Sometimes you're not, so I mean, that's really
what I'm asking, Shane.

Speaker 14 (49:57):
But it used to be in Colorado. Those roadside breathalyzers
the actual device we need. Some agencies don't even have them.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
Some agencies don't even have them. Hold on, I got
a question for you the road.

Speaker 7 (50:12):
Yeah, it could be much more worth it for you
guys just to get the breathalyzers and do it roadside,
rather than actually bringing them in and booking them.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
Well, they're not, they're not admissible. So in other words,
if you fail that, I mean, they still have to
do one back at the station. Isn't that correct? Shane?

Speaker 14 (50:29):
Right?

Speaker 2 (50:30):
Yeah, they're just not calibrated right or often enough or accurate.

Speaker 17 (50:34):
Right right, But despite its evidentiary value, if you blow
zero road side, then at least that saves everybody the
time and effort of a ride downtown.

Speaker 6 (50:42):
Hey.

Speaker 7 (50:42):
Absolutely, it's extra leg work, but that should eliminate a
little more process.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
How long ago were you a.

Speaker 14 (50:48):
Cop twenty seventeen and then part.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Time for Okay, no, no, no, I mean it's pretty recent.
Let me ask you this, when if you pulled someone over,
and let's say you've got proper probable costs, you pull
them over because they're speeding or license plate registration, whatever
probable cause is real probable cause though, and sure you
suspect them of drinking, but you ask them and they say, no,

(51:15):
I haven't had anything to drink, and they're not fall
down drunk. You can imagine that. I mean, typically, where
do you go from there?

Speaker 14 (51:25):
Well, so then you look for other indicators, right like
were they swerving? Did they you know when they stopped?
Did they stop super fast or did they take forever?
Were they driving like twenty miles an hour on a freeway?
You know, are their eyes bloodshot and water? Is their
speech slurred?

Speaker 11 (51:40):
You know, things like that. You look for other indicators.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
Being on the other side. Since you're not doing that anymore,
let me ask you this, if you were on the
other side and you got pulled over and the officer
asked you, have you been drinking tonight? My understanding from
our attorneys are criminal defense attorneys that we've been talking about.
For whatever Joe Lazarrol's say, you never acknowledge it. You

(52:02):
either don't answer the question or say it's none of
your business or something. I mean, would you agree that's
probably the best tactic because I always I won't say
I argue with Joe. He's a criminal defense attorney. He's
the one that's got to deal with the evidence and
everything afterwards. But I've always questioned them like, doesn't that
make you appear more guilty to the cop?

Speaker 4 (52:24):
I mean, if someone's telling you that as a cop, No,
I'm not going.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
To answer your question. I mean, where do you go
from there?

Speaker 13 (52:31):
Then?

Speaker 14 (52:31):
Shane, Well, it's definitely not the normal conversation that a
person has with somebody else. So for them to say no,
you know, as a police officer, you understand that they're
not required to give you any answer and they're not
required to talk to you. So if you go back
to the same thing I was talking about, if you
don't have any of those other indicators, then you cut
them a ticket for whatever you pull them over for

(52:52):
and set them on their way.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
Yeah, okay, okay, that's basically exactly what Joe said. Hey, Shane,
I really do appreciate you calling in. I can't wait
to see what the attorney says about it. But in general,
do you think when you were doing this, could you
how many times did you bring someone in that blue
Zero's a kid too. I'm not talking like you know,

(53:13):
a twenty thirty. I'm not talking someone that's been driving
a long time. I'm talking someone that just got their
license sixteen years old. Apparently he's got some bloodshot eyes.
I mean, has that ever happened to you?

Speaker 14 (53:28):
Not I'm a kid, but one time in my career
and as an adult, and what happened.

Speaker 4 (53:34):
What do you do?

Speaker 2 (53:35):
You just cut them loose, apologize or what?

Speaker 6 (53:37):
Man?

Speaker 14 (53:39):
Well, so, in this particular case, the guy was involved
in a traffic accident, I'll call to it, and it
had already happened, and I still processed him and charged him,
and then later on in court because we couldn't establish
any of the roadside maneuversus that showed any indications or
anything like that other than what he had told me
then that the case was dismissed.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
Actually, hey, what department did you work for?

Speaker 4 (54:00):
Do you mind that?

Speaker 2 (54:01):
Saying?

Speaker 11 (54:03):
Sure, Weld County Riff's Office.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
Let me let I want to ask you one more thing.
Is there is there a lot of profiling? I mean,
is that like literally you were kind of in the
boys club or the cops club down there? I mean,
is there good old boys in Weld County or other
agencies that you know of? There's always bad apples. I
don't care where you're from, but I'm talking systemic. Would

(54:27):
you say someone black in Weld County is more likely
to get pulled over? Or someone Mexican or somebody I
don't know, I don't know anything, but say a white person.
Is that like a real deal? Is it still like that?

Speaker 14 (54:46):
I mean, I guess it could be in some jurisdictions,
But you got to think about it like this mark.
If you're pulling somebody over for speeding or you know
they've done something in front of you or whatever, nine
times out of ten you don't know what the person
in the car looks like. You've seen the car do
something and you're pulling them up. You don't know who's
in the car until you get up to it after
they stopped.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
In other words, it'd be pretty damn hard to profile.
You'd probably have to have binoculars.

Speaker 7 (55:08):
I mean, you can probably look at the car right, Like,
if the car is missing its bumper and missing a
plate and the windows are tinted out and it's flying
down the highway, that's probably setting some red flags off.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Yeah, but that's not racial profiling. That's like that car
is a piece of drunk but you're profiling the vehicle. Yeah, well, okay,
I would agree, Shane. Is that okay to do?

Speaker 8 (55:27):
Pro?

Speaker 2 (55:27):
Do you profile vehicles? I would if I was a cop.
First of all, those windows being that tinted or probably
not legal.

Speaker 14 (55:36):
It's not profiling the car. You're just looking for equipment
violations or traffic violations. That's that's what you're paid to do, right,
is look for anything that's the violation of the lot,
whether it's the tent, or whether it's a license plate
that's not on the car or the expired plate, or
if the driver's beating. You know, it's not profiling per se.
It's just you're looking for violations of the law. Okay,

(55:57):
the equipment.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
I promise you. Last question, is this true? Because we
hear this all the time. The town is running into
some money problems, and the captain really comes to you
and say we're gonna step up tickets. I'm not saying
we're gonna step up enforcement. I'm not saying you're gonna
make up stuff. But now it's time to get everybody

(56:19):
out there and get some revenue coming in. Is that
a real thing where you worked?

Speaker 14 (56:26):
No, But then again, Will County has never had budget problems.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
So yeah, Hey Shane, I appreciate it. Man, great call.
Three O three seven one three eight two five five.
Jeff has an issue with the Colorado Springs PD. Yikes.
And then Janey will talk to you as well. One
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we hear from Bend and Ellie, I promise we'll get
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Speaker 14 (57:26):
All right, three oh.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
Three seven onety three A two five five. Hey Kelly,
where are we coming on? Marco? I want to kind
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to get Mark. I am able to talk to an attorney.
I understand. Uh tell Marco I'm going to come after
him personally if he doesn't get his butt on here.
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(57:48):
my best? All right, thank you, Hey, Jeff, what's going on?

Speaker 4 (57:51):
Man?

Speaker 2 (57:51):
I can't believe we're having another issue with a police department.

Speaker 14 (57:54):
Go ahead, sir, Yes, hey, thanks for taking my call.
Have a have a question related to I run a
small business in Colorado Springs, and I'll uh I'll uh,
I won't mention won't once, won't mention the name because
I'm I'm pursuing a couple avenues here. But what had

(58:17):
happened is.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Jeff, Jeff, let me ask you this though. Is it
like a storefront or like uh or is it like
you're a landscape or a service and you live at
your house or is there actually a storefront or an office?

Speaker 14 (58:32):
Yeah, we we have a storefront in the vehicle services industry,
got it? And I've reported everything that we have. We
have a very good video surveillance system on site, and
I've reported everything, basically, everything that has happened on site.

(58:55):
And I when when something happens, Hey, Jeff.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
Give me an idea though. Are we talking like vandalism
on customers cars? What are we talking about?

Speaker 14 (59:05):
But vandalism people try to typically they try to break
into coinboxes on site.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
Oh wow, interesting exactly?

Speaker 11 (59:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (59:17):
And and are they outside or inside the business.

Speaker 14 (59:22):
They are facing the customer coinboxes that face the customer
for a car wash, basically is what it is?

Speaker 2 (59:31):
Okay, I got you. So they're literally showing up with
a crowbar or a screwdriver and stealing.

Speaker 14 (59:37):
That's exactly right. And I have reported. I mean literally
I have. I have thumb drives in a backup video.
I've reported over one hundred incidents.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Oh my god, a hundred. So let me ask you this,
like when you report a particular one has have officers
actually came out and looked at the video?

Speaker 14 (01:00:00):
I actually back up all the video. And the one
of the problems is that property crimes are at the
low the lowest of the lowest end of the spectrum
for getting officers to show up.

Speaker 11 (01:00:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Yeah, but we're talking something that's crazy. We're talking one hundred,
one hundred different calls. I mean, that's absolutely nuts in
any of the videos. In other words, do you know
who's doing it?

Speaker 14 (01:00:34):
Well, I have very good video surveillance, and I'm just
going to use a specific example. Yeah, September of twenty
twenty four, at seven fifty am, I have video surveillance
of a black escalade with three male individuals and their female.

Speaker 4 (01:00:59):
Counter.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
And what do they do? They pull up, They pull up,
get out. You have like a picture of the license plate?

Speaker 14 (01:01:10):
I do, I do have a do have a picture
of the plate, and they take out their takeout crow bars.
Three of them are working on the coinbox I happen
to I have remote video surveillance, so at seven fifty am,
I report this on a nine to one one call

(01:01:30):
to Calado Springs Police Department.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
Wait wait, because it's going down right then and there exactly.
Hold on, Hold on, man, this is Kelly. I want
to copy of that video from him if he's telling
me he's watching it live as these three hoodlums or
four hoodlums are basically breaking into his cash boxes and
they don't respond at all while it's going on. That's insane.

(01:01:55):
We need to talk to somebody down there. Let's get
this video though.

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Speaker 4 (01:04:55):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
You own a business. I'm just going to say it.
It's like a car wash. And you have video of
this was an excursion. What kind of vehicle is a
big one escalator?

Speaker 14 (01:05:06):
This was a black escalade yet like a four door,
fatally new escalator.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
And it pulls up and while your alarm on your
camera goes off motion detector whatever you got r low,
I don't care what it is. You get on your
phone or get on your computer, and you're watching this
happen in Colorado Springs. You're watching three people or four
people break into all your boxes to steal the money

(01:05:32):
that's in there. And you call up nine to one
one and tell them at this address, at this business.
They're there right now stealing and what happened?

Speaker 14 (01:05:43):
Correct? They were there for forty minutes. The officers didn't
show up until two fifteen pos.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
This is ridiculous, This is so absurd. Here's what I
want to do. Okay, here's what I want to do.
And you've got this video right yeah, and this is
eight or nine in the morning.

Speaker 14 (01:06:06):
It was seven fifty am.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
So we're not even talking like a Friday night when
there's other stuff going on. They can't even say well,
I guess they can say whatever, But go ahead, Jeff,
I'm sorry, keep cutting you off. My head's going to explode.
If I were you, i'd go crazy.

Speaker 14 (01:06:23):
Oh that's exactly right. And I lost my temper when
they showed up and I gave him. I gave him
the riot Act.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Given the business.

Speaker 14 (01:06:32):
It goes a little bit further later that I spent
approximately five to six hours trying to straighten out a
stainless steel door on my coin box. Approximately three point
fifteen pm. There's an individual that I'm going to call

(01:06:55):
him a transient because that's how we act.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
Yeah, homeless whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:06:58):
She shows up.

Speaker 14 (01:07:01):
He shows up, and I've talked to him four or
five times being on the lot.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
He shows up when you're there or later.

Speaker 14 (01:07:10):
Exactly now, he shows up while I'm there, he's getting ready.
So I've told him four or five times prior to
this in the previous six months, if you're not a
customer here, you need to get off the lot.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
Yeah, you don't want him there, Okay, So now what?

Speaker 14 (01:07:28):
And so he tells me call CSPD, see if they
show up, and what Colorado Springs Police Department has told me,
is I need a clear picture of his face. I
need a clear picture of their vehicle.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
Did you get a picture of them.

Speaker 14 (01:07:46):
I've got a picture of them. While I'm taking a
picture of them, he hits my hand, he hits my phone.
My phone goes ten feet in the air, drops to
the ground. I pick up my phone. I level them,
took the ground.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
I leave. Wait a minute, and wait, wait, I don't
want to glance over what you just said. You leveled
him to the ground. What exactly did you do? Hold on,
Hold on, Jeff, we're coming up. I'm dying to hear
the rest of this story. But we've only got about
forty seconds, and Janey, I'm gonna take your comment real
quick on checkpoints, Jeff, I promise I want to hear it.

(01:08:27):
Not only that, I'm going to probably reach out on
the first problem. You have to KRD News down in
the Springs to see if we can't get a news story.
Go ahead, Janey, okay, real quick.

Speaker 4 (01:08:40):
I'm dirty.

Speaker 14 (01:08:41):
I'd had a half a bear three hours before I
drove through a.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
Check All right, Hold on, Janny, I'm sorry, I don't
want to hear that in twenty seconds. I want to
hear your story, I really do, and we're going to
have a criminal defense attorney on real quick. Jeff, I
hope you didn't get arrested. I swear to God. I
hope we're gonna find out back and a lot more
right after this.

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He's a great guy, and we're gonna We've got two things.
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(01:10:50):
got a ton of questions. And then Jeff possibly we
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(01:11:11):
she might have a question for our criminal defense attorney too.
But I want to hear a story. So Jeff, Colorado
Springs Police Department, you have made and I have to
recap for people just joining us, so I'll do it quick, Jeff.
But you own a business down there. You have called
the police numerous times because they pull up to your

(01:11:32):
car wash or your laundry matt whatever it is where
there's outside boxes and they break in and they steal
the money out of there. And you have called numerous
times over the years, and nothing seems to happen. You've
done reports. But this particular time we're talking about, you called.
While people in a keep wanting to say excursion, it's not.

(01:11:54):
It's a what escalate escalator? You know they're doing well
if their rolling on escalator, they must be stealing a
lot of dough if they're rolling around in the escalade.
So a black escalade pulls up his motion censor and
his business goes off. It's eight nine o'clock in the morning.
He looks at his phone. He sees the video. These
people were there forty minutes. He called the police, the

(01:12:15):
Colorado Springs Police Department. He calls them immediately and he says, hey,
they're there right now. There's four of them. They're in
this black truck and they're stealing. They're breaking into my stuff.
They never show up.

Speaker 4 (01:12:29):
I assume those people stole money and took off, right.

Speaker 14 (01:12:34):
Well, they they broke into a billet scepter, and the money,
the money is insignificant.

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
That it's the damage they did to it.

Speaker 14 (01:12:46):
That's exactly right. Okay, So I've got a long history
of that happening.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
I got it, Jeff, I get it. It's like breaking
into a soda machine to steal the you know, the
one hundred and fifty bucks in there, but you do
five hundred, one thousand dollars worth of damage to the
coke machine. But I get it. So the cops don't
show up. It took him how long to show up?
Like fifty sixty minutes?

Speaker 14 (01:13:11):
Oh no, it's two fifteen pm, so three.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
Or four hours later? Can you imagine.

Speaker 14 (01:13:18):
Over six hours later?

Speaker 8 (01:13:19):
But in the meantime show up.

Speaker 4 (01:13:21):
Hold on though, In the meantime what happens.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
You get down there, you start trying to fix the door,
and this homeless guy shows up, and you've seen him
there before. You've told him, if you're not a customer,
get off my property, and basically the cops have told
you before. In order to do anything with these vagrants,
you got to get a picture of them so we

(01:13:45):
can see what he looks like. So you go to
take a picture of him, the guy slaps the phone
out of your hand. It flies up ten feet, comes down.
You go and get it. And then where we left
off is you level him right that? Yeah, we need
to get into that one.

Speaker 11 (01:14:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:14:07):
I slapped him to the ground.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
You my phone slapped.

Speaker 14 (01:14:11):
I slapped him to the I slapped him okay, open hand,
open hand, left to right, slapped him to the ground,
leveled them. And then I lock up the business and
I'm walking to my car because I've noticed there's there's
like three people in his car. So I'm not going

(01:14:36):
to get surrounded by three people. So I get in
my car.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
So the homeless had a car with two other people
in it.

Speaker 14 (01:14:43):
That's right, there's three people in that car.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
Now is it possible? And I just want to ask
you this, Jeff. Is it possible because they're in a
car and it's a car wash, they were coming to
wash their car.

Speaker 14 (01:14:58):
No, they've never they've never washed the car, they've never
vacuumed their car.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
What do they generally do there?

Speaker 14 (01:15:06):
Well, this individual, what what has happened in the past
is vagrants walk around the car wash, they try to
walk around, they're they're they're looking for opportunity. I'll put
it that way.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
Wait, fair enough, So what happened now? Did they call
the police?

Speaker 14 (01:15:22):
Okay, they called the police, Uh, because I I leveled
this individual. I left the site and called them. Yeah,
and then uh, you know, called them, called the Tallatta
Springs Police Department to tell them that I was assaulted

(01:15:42):
by this individual and I've left. Uh, I've left the site.
So long story short, he gets he gets charged with trespassing.
He was not charged with assaulting me because of your hand.

Speaker 11 (01:16:00):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
Okay, keep going, you get charged.

Speaker 14 (01:16:05):
Yes, I got charged with Originally I got charged with
a felony for slapping him. It was reduced to a
low level misdemeanor. But the issue is he assaulted me.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
When did this go down.

Speaker 14 (01:16:22):
The same day, September eighth, And when is the court date?
I've already gone to I've already gone to court, and
the the DA reduced based on the video. The DA
reduced my charge to a low level misdemeanor. However, the

(01:16:45):
issue is that individual that assaulted me got charged with trespassing,
which doesn't make sense. So the reason for my call
is I'm trying to determine what is my best course
of action to get this career. Is it internal affairs
because my assumption, or is it with an attorney.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
I don't know why you told me. You know, there's
a few things here, man, Hold on, I just I
want to put you on a hold just for a second.
Joe Lazera, Joe, I've got two things for you. Hold
on a second. I hit the wrong line. Hey Joe,
are you there? I am, Hey man, I've got two
things for you. One Jeff. I didn't realize he already
went to court, but I figured I knew where the

(01:17:27):
story's going. You know, his story is a vagrance basically
on his property, and he was trying to get a
picture of him because the Colorado Springs Police Department, uh simply,
you know, wanted a picture of him in order to
do anything. And the guy slaps him, knocks his phone out.
This guy, I don't know if it's self defense whatever,
but he levels them. That's his own words. He ends

(01:17:50):
up getting a misdemeanor because they have a video of it.
So they knock it down from the original felling knee
to a misdemeanor. So I got I got two things here.
I know you haven't looked at the video. He does
have the video, but at this point it doesn't even
matter because it's it's over. But something along there where
would you argue that in court with the DA?

Speaker 11 (01:18:12):
Yeah, I mean obviously while the case is pending, you know,
at a pre truck conference stage or an arrangement stage,
would argue to the DA that he's acting himself to that. Yeah,
But if he's already plaid incentives, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
It doesn't matter. Right now, let's go to the other
thing that's driving me crazy. You do quite a bit
of work in Colorado Springs, right right, So this guy
is saying the first part of his story before it
got to that, he calls it eight am or nine am. Literally,
there's people that spend forty five minutes breaking into his

(01:18:47):
coin machines or dollar machines at his car wash. He
calls nine to one one. They don't show up till
two o'clock. He has called the police for this same
kind of stuff, different people. Sometimes they're the same people
about one hundred times and they never show up. I mean,
is there anything a business owner can possibly do that

(01:19:08):
you know of? I mean it seems crazy. You call
up and go it's going on right now. I'm watching
it on my camera and we're not talking Friday or
Saturday night at one am in the morning. We're talking
eight or nine o'clock in the morning. What are your
thoughts on that?

Speaker 11 (01:19:26):
Right? I think you know with these police departments arriving
later and later, and that they'll argue that a budget issues.
But I think you know you've got to make them
complaints known, not only to the police department, but also
to the media. That's number one. Number two. Yeah, you
can't really defend to a certain degree. You can't really
defend your property like that. I mean, you can't use

(01:19:48):
any type of deadly force or physical force unless you
know you're acting in self defense other than putting yourself
in jeopardy and saying hey you need to stop, or
having cameras everywhere.

Speaker 13 (01:19:59):
Yeah, there's not much.

Speaker 11 (01:20:00):
What else he can do?

Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
That's crazy. Now listen, here's what I want to do.
I wanted because I have you on right now. I've
got Mark and I'm going to bring him up right
after this. You can hang with us a few minutes.
I hope I can't. So Mark's son is sixteen years old.
I just want to paint this picture. He was coming
back from a lacrosse game, new driver. He ends up

(01:20:22):
getting pulled over by a Parker PD. They say he's
been drinking. They basically arrest him. They take them to
the station. He blows zero's the cop. I called an apology,
but the cop says I made a mistake. And the
parents come and pick him up. And Mark is furious

(01:20:43):
about this situation. The question becomes is there anything he
can or he should do about it? He wants to
sue everybody. I don't even know what he'd be suing for.
I don't know what the damages are, but that is
that question. And then, believe it or not, Janey has
a question. I think she got a dui at a checkpoint.

(01:21:05):
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Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
All right, three O three seven one three eight two
five five. I'm gonna go right to our expert. Jill
loves there, Joe, So I'm gonna lock you in and
I'm gonna bring markup. Here's the bottom line. His son
gets arrested, sixteen years old. They get to the station,
he blows zeros, and the cop basically says, this isn't Parker.
The cop. Oh, by the way, I don't know how

(01:22:08):
relevant it is, probably not, but the cop was brand new.
In fact, Mark thinks this was his first arrest. He
was like fresh out of the academy or whatever that
looks like. And he's really upset. He wants a lawsuit.
He's talking Fourth Amendment civil rights. So, Joe, give me
kind of your opinion on it. I would assume this
happens more than it doesn't.

Speaker 11 (01:22:31):
So they did not charge him at all.

Speaker 10 (01:22:33):
Correct, they did not charge him, but they did charge him.
They processed him, fingerprints, smugshot, everything before he blew zeros.

Speaker 11 (01:22:47):
A couple different things. One, you want to make sure
see if that's on his criminal record at all, the arrest.
That's number one. Number Two, theoretically there is a lawsuit.
Damages are not huge, but theoretically there is a zoo
because he was arrested and detained against his will. But

(01:23:08):
I'm seeing with regards to these bacs saying more and more,
I've had more DUIs with dacs at zero or well
below the legal limit and I ever have in my
thirty some years.

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
Why why?

Speaker 11 (01:23:26):
I think it has to do with training, I really do.
And I think that's the number one thing that they're
not doing. Is there there's an assumption, Hey, if I
smile alcohol or if you have certain endisha, I'm going
to just jump to the conclusion it's a duy without
being thoroughly trained in order to determine whether or not
it is. I bet you I have at least six

(01:23:48):
right now, six cases that are all below the legal limit.

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
So wait a minute, then, how was their actual charges
if they're below the legal limit, or they are they saying, oh,
you must have been high or what? I guess I
don't get that, Joe.

Speaker 11 (01:24:03):
So several of them, most of them are blood tests.
So they get arrested, they get cited, they have a
court date, they had submitted to a blood test. Blood
test comes back either no alcohol or.

Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
Well blow oh wait a minute, Wait a minute. How
long did generally take for a blood test?

Speaker 11 (01:24:19):
Three to six months?

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
So wait a second, So what happens in the introm
before that comes back? Charges are definitely pressed at that
point because they contacted you. But I mean, like, do
they lose their license? Do some of these people like
what happens now?

Speaker 11 (01:24:37):
Usually not. But usually we're just dealing with multiple court
appearances because the courts don't really want to set out
too far in light of the fact that the blood
tests are taking so long, and that's CBI and that's
a government agency that's taken so long. I mean, we
can get a retest and know the number that we're
dealing with within two to three weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
Oh my goodness, that's crazy. And then you can step
in and show that to the DA's office or the
prosecution or the judge whoever you need to and kind
of put it behind it. But here's the part that
really sucks about this. These people come out of pocket
to hire you. Is there any ramifications to go after

(01:25:19):
the police officer themselves. I'm sure that that probably can't
happen under the scope of most normal things. But is
there any way you can ever get like victim's advocate
money or something.

Speaker 11 (01:25:33):
Now, I'm usually other than suing them or you know,
I mean, the most you can A lot of times
you can get is pay this person needs to do
to additional training and you know he can report that.
But other than that, that's really what happens. I mean
a lot of these das I have cases right now
where they're pulled over for say speeding or you know,

(01:25:54):
some type of traffic violet and submit to the blood
test it's below the legal limit or no alcohol rugs,
and yet they want him to plead to the traffic offense,
which prohibits on stealing the record, so it stays on
the record that they got arrested for a DUI or whatever.
So those are some of the battles that we're fighting
right now. Some DA's are more than agreeable and dismissing

(01:26:15):
the cases, but EAHDA in each office is different.

Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
Hey, hey, Mark, did your son get a ticket for
the swerving or the headlights out or did they just
cut them loose all together, cut them loose. So if
he did, let's say that cop after making this mistake,
because honestly, in my opinion, that's what it is. If
they did give him a ticket for having his headlights
off or whatever the thing is you're saying, Joe, that

(01:26:40):
would still be on his record that he was arrested
for DUI.

Speaker 11 (01:26:44):
Well, I think right now it may show up that
he's got arrested for a DUI.

Speaker 14 (01:26:49):
Oh my god, that's something you have.

Speaker 11 (01:26:51):
To look at. Your want to pull that and double.

Speaker 2 (01:26:53):
Check and what happens if it is on there? Does
that mean he needs to hire someone like you to
get it expunged?

Speaker 11 (01:27:00):
You can seal it. I mean, it's Colorado's now simplified,
so an individual could do that on their own. But
that's something I would tell you to just double check,
because I'm not sure if the jails process and whether
they would afforded the fingerprints and the charges to CBI
or not.

Speaker 2 (01:27:16):
Hey, Joe, the other thing is he said his son
wanted to do a breath test right then and there
when pulled over, and they decided to bring him in instead.
But does that have anything to do with his age?
If you're sixteen years old? Do they have to bring
you in? Can you consent to a breathalyzer? I mean,
what are the rules when you're a minor, but yet

(01:27:38):
you're able to drive.

Speaker 11 (01:27:40):
So with regards to the PBT, you know a lot
of the officers don't have one.

Speaker 2 (01:27:45):
Got in their vehicle because you can't even use them
in court. We always have as well, I missed that
last part show.

Speaker 11 (01:27:53):
Oh they're not admissible in court. Yeah, that you can't
use them?

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
Is that why they don't carry him that much?

Speaker 11 (01:28:00):
Plus they're expensive, they have to be calibrated, and it's
just a tool that they use kind of like road types.

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
Go ahead, Hey, Joe, it's Henry here. I've got a
question for you.

Speaker 7 (01:28:10):
So, if the breathalyzer doesn't work in court and they're
some of your clients are facing these only the roadside, Yeah,
they're If they're facing these charges and they're waiting for
that blood sample to come back, what argument is happening
in court or what proceedings are happening?

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
Yeah, why are you there? In other words, you said
there's court dates Joe, right, So.

Speaker 11 (01:28:34):
And I just want to clarify the PBT, the portable
bread test that they give on scene that's not admissible.
Deck can not be used in court.

Speaker 4 (01:28:40):
That's right.

Speaker 11 (01:28:41):
They usually will have it didn't blow it to the
atoxized machine, which is what this sixteen year old did.
But I like say, on my cases where we're doing blood,
we go to court and we simply show up and
it gets continued. That happens multiple times, until it still
happens even on people over the legal limit. We're showing
up to court multiple been having those cases continued while

(01:29:02):
we're waiting on Colorado Bureau of Investigation and analyzed bloodst.

Speaker 2 (01:29:05):
I mean, what are you even doing though? If there's
not a whole lot of information's got a court there,
they have to go to court, they're summons to court.
They have no choice but to show up and right, Joe,
what's the conversation then we.

Speaker 11 (01:29:17):
Don't have that. Yeah, I mean we'll have the police
reports and everything, but waiting on the blood the blooder.
Often the das cannot offer, make any type of offer
or do anything until they see the state's ask result.
So a lot of times you're just simply showing up,
we don't have blood, and they're continuing it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:34):
Hey, Joe, so and Mark I'll let you ask whatever
questions in a second. But between you and Henry, you
made me think of something we always hear of right
to a speedy trial. And then when you said, CBI,
I watched this story four or five months ago, we're
like rape kits. Like literally, if someone gets raped in Colorado,
it can take up to two years because we had

(01:29:55):
some sham running the lab or something a while back.
So when there's delays like that, do you, as a
defense attorney, knowing these delays are crazy, just right to
a speedy trial ever come into play?

Speaker 11 (01:30:10):
So you can as soon as you are not guilty, please,
So sometimes we'll not guilty, glee right away and get
that clock counting, you know, running. Otherwise, sometimes we'll just continue,
especially since we'll know the result because we can get
a second. For example, we tested a private lab, we'll
know that result. A lot of times we'll discontinue it

(01:30:30):
to get medication.

Speaker 10 (01:30:31):
Mark, you got any questions there any kind of civil
rights Fourth Amendment violation you see here?

Speaker 11 (01:30:40):
If I could have one, if you want to call me,
he was speaking Ry. I'd like to call you offline,
if you don't mind. Yeah, that'd be fine.

Speaker 2 (01:30:48):
Yeah, let's do that. Hey, Joe Lozara, I like always, Man,
I really appreciate you coming on. You're a wealth of
information when it comes to rights that a lot of
people don't know. We've got Memorial Day come fourth of July,
than before you know it, we're running into New Year's
all the dui stuff, and I love having you on
just to educate people. So I'll get you on again.

(01:31:09):
But I got to give your number out again. Anybody
out there, and if you have any questions, if you're
facing something you need help. I mean, I don't know
what else to say. Why would you go up against
a DA or an attorney and a judge when you
don't have anybody on your side? You're crazy, Joe. Last question,
the outlook when someone has a DUI with an attorney

(01:31:31):
or with you, I should say, compared to not having
an attorney. I mean, like, give us a difference of
what the outcome could be. I know that's hard to do.

Speaker 11 (01:31:42):
Yeah, it is hard, but I would say, you know,
most attorneys are good. Duy attorneys can't evaluate the facts.
That's number one. Are the legitimate issues. That's a big factor.
The other thing is just being able to negotiate. I
mean I did the case the other day. BAC was
well over almost a point four, and we were able

(01:32:03):
to get the very minimum in home detention sentence. So
those things happen, whereas I think most cases, most individuals
would walk in and have a higher jail sentence including jail.
So a lot of times, even in the worst case,
we can get an home or minimum at home and
lesser penalties. And that's I think a big area where

(01:32:25):
duy attorneys play a huge hole is the mitigation. If
you can't beat it, how do we minimize that?

Speaker 2 (01:32:29):
Yeah, exactly. And then the last thing would be on
that kind of stuff, and I mean DUIs. I mean
maybe if they're three or four times in on a felony,
it might be different. But you do have flat rate
pricing on some of that stuff, right. So in other words,
if someone calls you now that is facing a DUI
and they're like, oh, well, you know it's going to

(01:32:49):
be what it is necessarily, that's not true. You might
be able to help them big time by looking at
the facts, but you can actually give them a quote
on what it's going to run. Most cases, Oh yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:33:01):
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Speaker 2 (01:34:01):
All right, threeho three seven one three eight two five
five three oh three Martino, you've been ripped off for
taking advantage of my goodness to Meitred. Do you remember
a show where we had so many calls for a
criminal defense attorney? I mean, I just don't remember one
in a long time.

Speaker 17 (01:34:18):
No, well, I think it's because this topic just hasn't
come up in a long time. But people are extremely
concerned about crime. Like this gentleman in Colorado Springs with
his car wash. I mean, what is he to do?
I mean, just forget about what he already went through there.

Speaker 2 (01:34:32):
This guy's getting ripped off all the time in the
Colorado Springs Police Department. Just period, don't show up.

Speaker 17 (01:34:38):
Yeah, and it's going to keep going on, And the
same thing happens in Denver, the same thing happens.

Speaker 2 (01:34:42):
I'm going to introduce you. One of these days. You
and I will take a drive down when time's uh
one hundred percent back, which should be you know, pretty soon,
you and I will head down to KRDO in the Springs,
and I want to introduce you to their TV people
because occasionally we get a good like that, they'll jump
on it. And it's basically like having nine News or

(01:35:04):
Fox thirty one down there. I believe.

Speaker 4 (01:35:06):
I don't want to say.

Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
It, but I think they're the NBC affiliate. It's one
of the three big ones. But sometimes that works out
really good. I wish we had that kind of connection here. Generally,
hear what happens is one of the news people are
just listening and then they steal the story. But anyhow,
that's just what I've seen.

Speaker 17 (01:35:23):
It's a great idea, especially in the context of this
being a consumer of fish and he's got a video,
and this gentleman really is a consumer of police services
and he's getting really crappy service over there, and it
would be nice to find out what can be done
about that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:37):
You know, you were talking to Henry Bradstur in the
break and you said a very interesting question. You said, Hey,
how much would a slate roof cost? And right now
you basically just have Aspholet shingles. Right.

Speaker 17 (01:35:50):
Well, I was asking the question in the context of
a home that I want to build.

Speaker 2 (01:35:54):
Yeah, and oh, compared to compared.

Speaker 17 (01:35:57):
To what So if I go with a standard roof
kind of like some of the synthetic material that Henry showed,
or what I really love is a real slate roof,
And I said, just roughly speaking, how much more would
a guy budget for that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:11):
In a new build? In a new build? Well, I
got two questions for Henry. One in a new build,
what was your answer? Roughly like twenty percent more? One
hundred percent more. I mean a slate roof you're gonna have,
I mean, correct me, but you're gonna have to have
stronger decking. I mean, tell me the difference when you're
when you're thinking of a house that has asphalt compared

(01:36:33):
to slate. There's just a lot more that goes into it.

Speaker 7 (01:36:35):
So slate's probably not going to be quite as heavy
as a thick concrete tile, but it's going to be close, right,
So it's going to be you know, you're you're gonna
have to have a structural engineer out there verify the
rafters can support the additional weight.

Speaker 2 (01:36:48):
And making you're building in the home. No, of course,
that's all that into it though.

Speaker 7 (01:36:52):
Yeah, from the cost of absolutely so, I mean for
the slate roof to do a reroof, you're probably looking
like five times the cost for a new conplace, probably
about four times. But it really depends on what type
of slate you get. Yeah, if it's being hand cut
on site, how much adjustment is going to have to
happen because this is more of like an artesian crafted roof, right.

Speaker 2 (01:37:14):
Which the craziest roof you ever heard of.

Speaker 7 (01:37:17):
You know, these copper roofs are pretty sweet. These copper shingles.

Speaker 2 (01:37:20):
Do they dent with the hail?

Speaker 6 (01:37:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:37:23):
Absolutely anything metal will dent with hail. So they probably
cost a fortune. Yeah, and then I mean even to ensure.
But they're sweet looking.

Speaker 7 (01:37:32):
Yeah, they're They're the most expensive roof that we can
think of. And those copper roofs they also have copper
gutters and they have copper rivets.

Speaker 2 (01:37:41):
When it comes to you guys going out and looking
at a steel roof after a hailstorm or a copper
roof for something they can dent, isn't there a lot
of policies that say, long as it's not leaking that
we're not going to replace it. Is that correct generally speaking?
Is that how it is now? So it cosmetic? Sure,

(01:38:03):
that's exactly what it is. And it really depends where
the hail hits are. Right, if they are in a
structural part of that you know shingle they come in panels,
this stone code steal stuff does. If it's in a
structural part, that would be terms for a hail claim.

Speaker 11 (01:38:18):
Right.

Speaker 7 (01:38:18):
If this is just cosmetic, say that the big hits
were just mainly on the face, they're gonna deny it.
And that's why You really need someone who knows what
they're talking about, because a lot of these roof and
contractors and for everyone listening, just really take this to heart.
They're gonna come out there and they're going to tell
you to file a claim. It's the easiest way for
them to get a bunch of business. And whoever gets
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(01:38:43):
they got a shot at it. You really need someone
and even if you don't use Excel, someone that's gonna
go out there and really knows what they're doing. It
only recommends you to file a claim if they really
believe that you're gonna get a claim, because otherwise you're
gonna get a claim on your record. Right if you
call your adjuster and they deny you, you're gonna get
a claim. Your rates are gonna go up.

Speaker 2 (01:39:03):
So listen, and what he's saying there is a lot
of people don't realize this. Here's this thing the insurance
companies all share. It's called the clue report. And that
clue report, even if your claim was denied, if you
put in the claim, your rates most likely are gonna
go up. And I'll tell you why. They think you're
gonna call all the time. They're gonna say, this guy
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(01:39:24):
don't want this kind of customer, so we're gonna charge
him more money.

Speaker 7 (01:39:29):
Yeah, absolutely, Mark, and I would really urge all the
people listening if you think that you have damage from
last year's hailstorm, that deadline is coming up quick and
so you really need someone out there to go check
and see if you have damage. I would not call
your adjuster, right, you don't want that claim on your record,
Give Excel a call three oh three seven six' one

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going to be amazed by. It so stick. Around we're
going to talk about. That but any questions you, have
maybe a bad contractor maybe a bad, Dentist i'll throw
that out three zero three seven one three eight two five.

(01:42:34):
FIVE i actually had one person go. MARK i used
to say. DENTIST a lot more bad contractor bad, landlord bad.
Dentists i'll tell you WHY i say. Dentist we had this,
scumbag and in my, opinion he was a. Scumbag NOW
i understand his. Position he wasn't getting paid but this
woman brought her kid in to get. Braces, okay so

(01:42:56):
actually an orthodonist gets braces, on she up losing her.
JOB i don't know if husband's in the, PICTURE i don't,
remember but the braces as his teeth are, growing he
was probably twelve, thirteen whatever it. Was as the braces are,
growing they start digging. In and both my kids had.
Braces you got to go get him adjusted all the.
Time if you don't have enough to pay, cash, generally

(01:43:18):
what you do is you pay one hundred bucks two
hundred bucks a month until the braces are. Off that's
usually how orthodonis. Work so they started digging into his.
Gums she missed a, payment he wouldn't adjust. Him he
decided he'd rather keep the thirteen year old in pain
instead of wait a little. Bit so we got involved
and we got it. Handled but that's WHY i bring

(01:43:40):
up a dentist, sometimes because what kind of? Dirtbag, Now,
listen he deserves to get, Paid but there's different avenues
besides the kid having to go through. THAT i, mean
it's kind of. Crazy, Now, scott you got a problem
with an evaporative? Cooler what is going on with?

Speaker 6 (01:43:56):
It?

Speaker 18 (01:43:57):
Now, Hey, mark thanks for taking my. Call, SURE i
know on your referral iss you do not have people
to deal with evaporative coolers on my. ROOF i have
this brand known as A Breeze air evaporative. Cooler it's
kind of like The maybock of evaporative, coolers unlike something

(01:44:18):
you get at home deepot or. Lows, well, anyway this
thing is not. Working it's not working this right. Now
it's deader in the door nail and the COMPANY i
bought it from it's been up there about eleven. Years
the COMPANY i bought it from has blown me off
twice as far as coming out here and looking at.
It SO i was wondering if somebody in your listening.

Speaker 2 (01:44:35):
AUDIENCE i THINK i have hold on a second. MAN
i think we picked somebody up that does that does do,
that BUT i don't want to give the name out
if they, don't So i'm kind of looking through their
listing right. Now i've worked on one of these. Myself
are you pretty handy, Guy.

Speaker 4 (01:44:57):
Well let's, see go, ahead you can keep.

Speaker 14 (01:45:01):
Talking, YEAH i got an electrical.

Speaker 18 (01:45:03):
Issue i'm pretty, handy but this is kind of outside
of my yeah soap with this, thing there's something ELECTED
i have a motor that's gone out or something on.

Speaker 2 (01:45:13):
It, YEAH i think a man hold. ON i am so, sorry,
MAN i don't remember if these guys do or.

Speaker 4 (01:45:20):
Not in for the life of, ME i do not want.

Speaker 2 (01:45:23):
To give you the name out over the air if
they don't do, it Because i've done that before and
it becomes kind of a nightmare for.

Speaker 17 (01:45:33):
Whoever Deputy bow knows somebody because he spent his whole
life in THE.

Speaker 2 (01:45:37):
Hvac oh yeah he. DID i bet, Hey Deputy, bow
if you're, listening call into the show Or, kelly see
if you can Get bow real. Quick when did it go?
Out by the. Way and the other THING i want
to tell people why a lot of companies don't work
on these is simply the liability the one sitting up
on the. Roof you have water going to, them and
if something goes wrong and it starts, leaking you can

(01:45:59):
create ate an issue with a bad tech or a
technician that screws up to where you, know there's one
hundred thousand dollars in. Damage people just decided they're not
gonna mess with him, anymore and a lot of their insurance,
companies so you understand, Too. SCOTT a lot of the
insurance companies are, like if you work on the evaporative

(01:46:20):
coolers that are on the, roof we're not going to
insure you for that. Part so they'd have to come
out of pocket or they'd have to pay up a
substantial amount of money that it would just be it
just be. Crazy SO i, mean really that's why they do.
It but hold, ON i want you to hang on.
There she's going to try to Get deputy Bow on

(01:46:42):
and let's ask. Him And i'm going to call these.
People if you hang, MAN i PROMISE i think these guys,
do But i'm going to call And i'm going to
figure out if they do for sure after. This so
you guys hold, tight and then whoever's online, too we're
getting your info and we'll talk to you in a.
Minute But, henry so to clean soul, panels they get, dirty,

(01:47:02):
truly what is the percentage if they're really grimy greasy
after a few? WINNERS i, mean can it knock them
out by twenty thirty percent of? EFFICIENCY i don't know the.

Speaker 7 (01:47:12):
Answer, yeah, Absolutely and that's always a big concern in
the solar industry is how long are my panels going to. Last,
Right so a lot of people they overlook exactly what
they can do to make them more. Efficient and so
what we offer is we'll go out there and do
the decontamination rents for fifteen bucks a, panel and that
will improve the efficiency of the solar.

Speaker 2 (01:47:33):
Panels they look like new when you're, done OR i,
mean are they clean as they can? Get, yeah they're
gonna be pretty. Shiny and then you're fifteen bucks a. Panel,
yep what's the average array?

Speaker 7 (01:47:43):
Have the average array is about ten to fifteen to
twenty panels something like. That and so for a ten panel,
system one hundred and fifty, bucks, Right.

Speaker 2 (01:47:52):
So one hundred and fifty. Bucks now there's no other
fees on top of. That in other, words you don't
charge to drive out. There it's one hundred and fifty
bucks if you have ten. Panels, yeah that's.

Speaker 7 (01:48:03):
That's the rate that we have. Going AND i mean
really in the scheme of, things you think you'd.

Speaker 2 (01:48:08):
Be pretty you're people busy man.

Speaker 7 (01:48:10):
To clean the, panels, right BUT i mean that one
hundred and fifty bucks if that increases your efficiency for
a full.

Speaker 2 (01:48:16):
Year, no here's one hundred and fifty.

Speaker 11 (01:48:18):
Bucks is.

Speaker 2 (01:48:19):
Nothing the only reason they're doing this is to keep
the guys busy till the hailstorms. Come so anybody, listening
you'd be crazy not to take advantage of. IT i,
mean you're talking fifteen bucks a. Panel they're going to
get up there and let's just say what it. Is
you're going to powerwash the hell out of, it, Right.
Yeah there's also some special cleaner that we.

Speaker 4 (01:48:36):
Use it gets the.

Speaker 2 (01:48:37):
Crime yeah, YEAH i mean they're going to look panels and.
Like and Like henry, said the other thing is they're
not only going to look, great but on top of,
that it's going to be more. Efficient no matter, what
if they get grimy, enough you might as well put
a piece of cardboard over.

Speaker 10 (01:48:51):
Them.

Speaker 4 (01:48:52):
Yep.

Speaker 7 (01:48:52):
Absolutely and you know what this reminds. Me last TIME
i was on the, air we were doing that ninety nine
dollars gutter cleaning.

Speaker 2 (01:48:58):
Special yeah, yeah and you know what how many people
did we have sign up for?

Speaker 7 (01:49:02):
That we had so many people sign up for? That Fifty,
yeah like fifty people that day right away we had.
That the phone's blowing up and you, KNOW i will
do the same thing again.

Speaker 2 (01:49:11):
Today, Okay so listen to, this folks And the only
REASON i brought it up last time is they come.
Out we have pine.

Speaker 4 (01:49:18):
Needles at our.

Speaker 2 (01:49:18):
House we're out In franktown and we have trees that
are one hundred feet and they're. Everywhere it's like living
in the. Woods in, fact it is living in the.
Woods and what happens this time of, year actually a
couple months, ago the pine needles just come. DOWN i
don't care what gutter GUARDS i have. Tried i've tried,
Mesh i've tried, everything AND i end up taking them

(01:49:39):
off because he's. Stupid pine, needles by the kazillions end
up going through WHATEVER i, have or they end up
if you have a, helmet they end up going right
down with the water and getting. There it just doesn't
matter WHAT i. Do so FINALLY i took them off
AND i, Said i'm just gonna Have excel. Out they're
the ones that did my. Roof i'm going to have
them out twice a year and they're going to clean my.
Gutters and they always did it the same. Way if

(01:50:01):
you have one story, house it was one ninety, nine
a two story house two ninety, nine AND i guess
that's about. IT i, MEAN i maybe if you had
a three story house three ninety the prices went.

Speaker 7 (01:50:12):
Up our standard rate is two ninety, nine and then
it goes up to three ninety. NINE i, mean you gotta, remember,
though that's a fixed. Rate and this is pretty funny. Story,
actually the last time we ran that special it was,
Great like we got a bunch of great. Reception we
went out there cleaned a bunch of people's gutters for
just ninety nine. Bucks, Right SO i found out that
we had one house somewhere In Cherry.

Speaker 2 (01:50:33):
Hill's that was just Mass oh, yeah, yeah, Yeah Mass
john always such or. SOMETHING i, mean this thing was.

Speaker 7 (01:50:40):
Huge it took a full crew of guys how, long.

Speaker 2 (01:50:44):
All, day all, day and it was just for this
this one ninety nine bucks for the special price in ninety.
Nine AND i don't. KNOW i think the project manager
gave me a call and was telling me when someone
got a ten million dollar, house maybe fifteen, million maybe
twenty million over Where peyton lived In, lway and they

(01:51:06):
call up on the Ninety, god bless your, soul And
i'll tell.

Speaker 7 (01:51:09):
You why what we did? IT i do the same
thing they at least Over. TIP i don't think we got,
zims but we stuck by our, word we took care
of you know what it.

Speaker 2 (01:51:19):
Was it was probably another company that usually comes out
and does it for a couple thousand that got them
to do it out ninety nine and then they put
nineteen hundred bucks in their.

Speaker 7 (01:51:29):
Pocket just to, remember the amount of people though that
have a house like that is pretty.

Speaker 2 (01:51:33):
Slim so plus you want, listen let's be true. Too
you went out, there did them a solid for ninety nine.
Bucks my got a full crew for a full day
for a hundred. Bucks if they do have hell, DAMAGE
i bet they call. You, WELL i sure hope SO
i would have both shipped you.

Speaker 7 (01:51:48):
After you know, WHAT i just want to make sure
everyone list everyone listening knows. This we'll come and clean
your gutters from.

Speaker 2 (01:51:53):
Ninety nine bucks, night and they do.

Speaker 4 (01:51:55):
It they.

Speaker 2 (01:51:55):
Do it's a commercial. Building it's real.

Speaker 7 (01:51:57):
Deal we're gonna charge something else because, no, well this
is for regular this is residential. Homes this isn't multifamily
if you have a big apartment building or a.

Speaker 2 (01:52:06):
Complex this is a residential. House and here's what they.
Do And i've done it with them for three four years.
Now they come, out they send a crew, out they
clean the gutters so, well you can't believe. It they
even get up there with hoses and go down the
down spouts to make sure the down spouts just flow.
Perfectly you could go up. There when they're, Done you're
not gonna find, leaves, dirt. Anything they clean the gutters

(01:52:29):
all the way around and for ninety nine. Bucks once,
again this is what it. Is they're gonna do. It
and then when there's a hailstorm and you need a,
roof you're going to Remember excel dig you the solid
and you're gonna give them a. Call by the, way
even if when you do get a roof done by,
them you don't pay them a cent until you're one
hundred percent. CONTENT i mean you. Can't you can't beat

(01:52:51):
them as a. Company they've been In colorado forever in a.
Day henry's dad started, it how long, ago thirty two.
Years in counting thirty two, YEARS i think they're probably
one of the, largest if not the largest roofer. Here
and the other thing, is if there ever is a
warranty issue or maybe a bad run of shingles or,
something these guys are. Here they're not door. Knockers they

(01:53:13):
don't come here sell you a roof then go to
the next storm In. Texas it just doesn't work that.
Way that ninety nine bucks is. Incredible hold, on.

Speaker 3 (01:53:26):
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Com you don't pay a cent until you're. Content time
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Speaker 6 (01:53:46):
One.

Speaker 3 (01:53:46):
Help you'll think you're his only customer when you Choose
frank durand the real Estate man dot com to list
your home With Remax alliance three oh three nine two
zero sixteen twenty.

Speaker 9 (01:53:56):
Two all, right.

Speaker 2 (01:54:13):
Three oh three seven one three eight two five. Five
first annual profit For uber was in twenty twenty. Three
think about. That we're just talking about something. Off it's.
Amazing how Like, Amazon uber and all these people that
invested in the stock market for these companies for years
knew the profit was. Coming look At amazon once the

(01:54:34):
profit did. Come oh, man they know how to make.
Money bezos knows how to make the.

Speaker 4 (01:54:40):
Big big.

Speaker 2 (01:54:42):
Dollars, Now Deputy, Boson, Hey Deputy bow we had a, Caller, Hi,
mark Hey, man who do you know that works on swamp? Coolers?

Speaker 13 (01:54:53):
Yeah so he the caller specified a breeze air and
that's kind of an esoteric cadillact swamp.

Speaker 2 (01:55:01):
Cooler like how much would something like that? Cost? NEW i, mean, like,
really what's A cadillac swamp cooler?

Speaker 13 (01:55:07):
Run they're about three times the price of a standard
uh swamp.

Speaker 6 (01:55:12):
Cooler.

Speaker 13 (01:55:13):
Wow it as a veritable speed. Motor they're high. Efficient
so what he has to do is called the factory.
Representative they're In. Denver it's CALLED MJ m an.

Speaker 2 (01:55:26):
ASSOCIATE Mj wait WAIT. Mjm, Yeah Mary, John, mary that's my.
Initials those are my.

Speaker 4 (01:55:35):
Initials.

Speaker 13 (01:55:35):
God, well then they need to call you and you
need to go out.

Speaker 14 (01:55:38):
Work on the.

Speaker 13 (01:55:39):
Cooler.

Speaker 2 (01:55:39):
Mind, well that's a great. Point i'll go out there with. You,
yeah they'll take care of. It, so but they'll have
a list of people that work on, them.

Speaker 13 (01:55:47):
Right and those people that work on those scorers have
to go to their.

Speaker 2 (01:55:51):
Schools he thinks it's an electrical. Issue just from your,
background what would you guess it? Was in other, words
he's saying it's either the motor or no power to.
IT i would think the. Breaker if the breaker was,
good it would probably be the, motor, right although the
way you're describing it with a variable, motor there's probably
a couple motherboards.

Speaker 13 (01:56:11):
Involved, yeah as an electrically commutated motor and it's controlled
by three circuit boards and actually converts it TO. Dc
they're pretty. Complicated that's why he needs to call the
RENT i. HAVE i can give the number out on the.

Speaker 2 (01:56:26):
Air, yeah go, ahead just go ahead and give it
out in case that guy's. Listening, yeah so the number three.

Speaker 13 (01:56:32):
Oh three seven nine zero seven, thousand and he just
needs the COLONY v could give him the model. Number
they have a list of authorized repair people that can
work on that particular.

Speaker 4 (01:56:46):
Unit you, know, bo.

Speaker 2 (01:56:47):
What's crazy is IF i go back Pre, COVID i
had fix it twenty four to seven plumb line in
about five other companies on our referral list that would
all work or at least most of them would work
on swamp, coolers and almost zero of them. Do now
the liability has gone absolutely through the roof on. Them

(01:57:09):
do you do you have any insight onto that or
it's purely what they tell me it's.

Speaker 13 (01:57:14):
Damage, well it's because of their potential for water leaks
because you get the thing on the roof and a
lot of if you don't look things, upright you could
cause thousands of dollars of damage from you know that
quarterage waterline, dripping and you know there's liability if potential
tests falling off the. Roof because he'd never.

Speaker 2 (01:57:32):
Fitten go ahead him.

Speaker 11 (01:57:33):
Right.

Speaker 7 (01:57:35):
Yeah to add to that comment as a, roofer that's
often one thing that people determine is a roof leak
is when their swamp coolers are. Leaking they call us
up and they tell, us oh my, gosh my whole
roof is a that with. Water, absolutely especially if we
install the.

Speaker 2 (01:57:51):
Roof they call us. Up they think that our install is.

Speaker 7 (01:57:53):
Failing we get up, there the swamp cooler is just
dumping water straight.

Speaker 2 (01:57:59):
Henri so like when you get a hail claim and
you get up there and there's a swamp, cooler do
your people take it off or how does that or
do you hire an outside? Company how does that work
so we can detach and reset. It we'll use a
sub for. That, yeah, okay, YEAH i mean really you're
using a plumber or whoever you're comfortable with to make

(01:58:19):
sure it's not, Leaking.

Speaker 7 (01:58:20):
Yeah depending on how it's, attached, right like if it's
got a bunch of fasteners and waterlines to. It, Yeah
and we don't want to we don't want to mess with.
It but usually what will happen is we'll do the
roof one two three years later they'll call us up
saying that there's a roof. Leak, well, actually, yeah it's
a mechanical mechanical failure and it looks like a roof.
Leak and that's a really good point because those are big.

Speaker 2 (01:58:42):
Problems, hey, hey, bo why my buddy his name Was
larry and he. Passed BUT i mean he was a
really good friend of. Mine he had a place In
littleton and he had a swamp cooler and that thing worked,
great but it was on like his back. Patio why
are they on the. ROOF i don't quite understand. That
is there a science reason for?

Speaker 13 (01:59:02):
That, well bear swamp, coole the evaporative cop works on direct,
sunlight and then on the roof you get four, sides got.

Speaker 2 (01:59:11):
It compared to the, backside you're.

Speaker 13 (01:59:13):
Only getting one. Side and if they have hooked up
the core on the side of the, house you're only
getting like fifty percent efficiency because the sun that's not
the cooler's. Work when they get the most direct, sunlight
that's what causes the.

Speaker 14 (01:59:25):
Evaporation that's it don't work well.

Speaker 13 (01:59:28):
Along the side of the.

Speaker 2 (01:59:29):
House, yeah so His. Henry this is. FUNNY a buddy
of mine gave me some movie. Bills SO i had
a stack of ten thousand fake, hundreds and they, say
you know they look, real but if, YOU i mean,
really you'd never pass them off. Anywhere they're for. Movies
and his, Daughter bo's daughter was babysitting our dogs or

(01:59:49):
house sitting for us when we went To nashville about
a week, ago and my friend brought me over this
this stack of fake, money and basically we were just
laughing about, it AND i put it down then we.
Left the next, day she shows. Up she thinks it's real,
money and like we're testing her to see if she'll
take ten thousand dollars or something. Strange but she called

(02:00:11):
even after you told her it was, Fake, bo she kept,
calling didn't.

Speaker 6 (02:00:15):
She she called me.

Speaker 13 (02:00:16):
Twice she was very worried she wouldn't touch the, money
and she kept me Picking AND i was fooled by
it too TILL i blew it.

Speaker 2 (02:00:25):
Up, well and here's the. PROBLEM i thought about. THIS
i left it there just not thinking about. It we've
had painters in the, House we've had our maids in the.
HOUSE i bet everybody is, going what the hell is?
This so FINALLY i just threw it in our junk, drawer.

Speaker 7 (02:00:39):
Especially, nowadays because like when you see a stock of
ten thousand, dollars it really looks. SUBSTANTIAL i mean me,
PERSONALLY i pay everything on a credit. Card, Right it's
all electronic, now so ANYTIME i, have, like you, know some,
cash maybe all get paid for a roof in. Cash,
yeah it feels so much more than a. Check that's
four times the.

Speaker 2 (02:00:57):
Amount. Sure so what my buddy did and why he
brought it over is he does these. Experiments we'll be
like in a casino and he'll put this fake bill
down by one of the slot machines to see who
tries to sneak it and pick it up without turning
it into, security or at a restaurant Or the latest
was at an airport In. Nashville we were At, Denver

(02:01:20):
dia flying To, nashville and we were in The Capitol One.
Club it's an airport club and basically what happens. There, hey,
BO i really appreciate you coming on and giving that.
Information so he puts it down right behind a lady
and one of the people that are a server in
the club walks by and takes her foot and skirts

(02:01:43):
it over behind the wall and then picks it up and.
Leaves so instead of, saying, hey did you drop this?
Money absolutely. Nothing And i'll tell you, what with the
exception of the, casino he does it all the. Time
i'm only with him maybe once every two, months if
i'll of the four of us are getting, together but
only one, time and that was in the. Casino because in,

(02:02:06):
casinos if you find, money you got to turn them
in or else you're like in big, trouble, man like big.
Trouble so in the, casino the person we saw ten
people walk by and see it wanting to pick it.
Up no one touched, it and then one of them
must have called, security because then like three security guards
come over and they're all looking at it and they

(02:02:27):
pick it, up AND.

Speaker 4 (02:02:28):
I don't know what they did with. It it's.

Speaker 2 (02:02:30):
Crazy it's a great social. Experiment.

Speaker 7 (02:02:32):
Absolutely i'm just, thinking like IF i was to vet
a house, cleaner. RIGHT i think it would probably be
a good idea to just leave some cash around, you real,
cash and then see if they take it. Right, yeah
and so then you really know if you can trust.

Speaker 2 (02:02:45):
Them, yeah that's, true or they play the long game
and just steal your house.

Speaker 4 (02:02:50):
Hold on.

Speaker 3 (02:02:55):
Go with a sure Thing denver's best roofer excel roofing dot.

Speaker 8 (02:02:59):
Com you don't pay a cent until you're.

Speaker 3 (02:03:01):
Content time for an insurance check up free no obligation
comparison Call Compass insurance paying too much your coverage at
dozens of insurance companies find out now three oh three
seven seven to one. Help you'll think you're his only
customer when you Choose frank durand the real Estate man
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(02:03:23):
oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty.

Speaker 2 (02:03:25):
Two all right three o three seven one three eight
two five. Five if you didn't hear the, deal we're
going to recap it right. Now deal of the. Day
and it's. Unbelievable i've been Having excel. Roofing you know,
what DO i get a refund on the full Price
i've been? Spending CAN i do? That will you do?

Speaker 11 (02:03:43):
That?

Speaker 2 (02:03:44):
Henry that's a no refund for What i've been paying
two ninety nine or three ninety nine to have my gutters.
Claimed now you're saying it's only ninety nine dollars for
people they call today or tomorrow or if they hear
this on the. Podcast so When i'm asking, you for
the past four, YEARS i have SPENT i think three
ninety nine or two ninety nine twice a year for

(02:04:06):
you guys to come out and clean my gutters In.
Franktown so What i'm saying is that's two four six
eight times. Three that's twenty four hundred where it should
have only been two four six. Eight will you give
me twenty two hundred?

Speaker 7 (02:04:21):
Dollars, WELL i think we could factor some stuff into this, equation, right,
yeah the ads. GAME i think we could figure out
some trade.

Speaker 4 (02:04:28):
Out oh that's.

Speaker 2 (02:04:29):
True that was fun actually on your. Birthday hey seriously, though, folks,
listen ninety nine bucks and that's for a one or
two story residential.

Speaker 7 (02:04:37):
Yep and so ninety nine dollars for a residential. Home,
right this is no commercial? Buildings, yeah, yeah nothing, insane,
Right so if it's a big, hoa that does not.
Apply so ninety nine bucks Call excel THREE zho three
seven six one at sixty four zero. Zero we are
also doing a solar panel.

Speaker 2 (02:04:55):
Cleaning that's right.

Speaker 7 (02:04:56):
Deal so we go up there and we do a decon.
Wash we take care of the. Panels it'll make them
a lot more, efficient, right you don't want to lose
that efficiency just because they're. Dirty it's usually, overlooked but
it does. Happen so we'll go out there and we
will clean each panel for fifteen. Bucks it's three oh
three seven sixty one six four zero.

Speaker 2 (02:05:14):
Zero there's your big roofing. Supplier do you guys use just?
ONE i, MEAN i know there's different, products like the
one you sold me is F, Wave but as far
as the general the general supplier you?

Speaker 4 (02:05:26):
Use who is?

Speaker 7 (02:05:27):
It so there's a supplier in a, manufacturer, right so
our go to. SUPPLIER i personally really Like pacific and
that's WHERE i pushed a lot of our Business pacific.

Speaker 2 (02:05:37):
Supply and why is? That why do you like?

Speaker 7 (02:05:39):
Them you know there's a lot of, companies, Right there's
LIKE abc and like Golf. Eegel there's a lot of
these big distribution. Houses but their service it just it
doesn't quite line up to what they what they, claim,
right So, pacific we really Like. Pacific there are safeties
at a high. Standard they take care of, us which
allows us to take care of our. Customers and the
same thing goes With Owen's. Corning Owen's corning is a fantastic.

(02:06:03):
Manufacturer they take care of, warranties, Right we take care
of our. Roofs we go back out and we want
to repair anything that's, leaking anything that. Fails it happens,
rarely but we want to make sure we partner with
people that have that same.

Speaker 4 (02:06:16):
Mindsel so if it's a problem with the shingle, Itself
owens steps straight up and pays you, Guys.

Speaker 7 (02:06:22):
And you know what That's it's hard to find people
like that because, nowadays all these, manufacturers all these, companies
they'll tell you that they're going to step up to
the plate and deal with. It but you really find
out what people are made of when something goes. Wrong
And Owen's corning stands behind their warranties and they take
care of.

Speaker 2 (02:06:38):
People you, KNOW i was talking Or demetri AND I
we're talking To henry during the. Break so it's kind
of strange he's going to be in the roofing, business
probably his whole. Life he was born into. It you,
Know Jay bretts has been coming on. HERE i don't
Remember jay not being, Here SO i mean we're talking
twenty plus. Years and then you, know now you're in

(02:06:59):
your two you're basically running the, company and you were
talking interestingly, ENOUGH i was telling the story When suzanne
AND i owned our cake. ROUTE i was probably nineteen,
actually and she was, sixteen and we owned a cake Route, Untils,
oklahoma where we would go and sell our. Cakes and
these cakes were made by a massive. Bakery basically anything

(02:07:21):
host is, sold we would, sell but we had a
private label on. It so we would go work the
stores and everybody thought we were brother and, sister which is,
crazy and they thought we worked for our, parents and
none of that was. True AND i was always afraid
to actually tell people that because we were so. Young
they'd be, like why are we doing business with a

(02:07:42):
sixteen year?

Speaker 4 (02:07:42):
OLD i, mean it would be.

Speaker 2 (02:07:43):
Insane and then you brought Up, henry and it's a great.
Story the same thing happened to. You you decided to
start sourcing bicycle grips for like mountain bikes or any
kind of bike and you sourced them From, china because
every time you'd go to replace, yours they were thirty.
Bucks and you figured out you could make these or

(02:08:05):
buy these things out Of china for three. Bucks and
you knocked down the door of one, hundred two, hundred three,
hundred four hundred different bike shops around the states around
us selling. Them that's how old were you when you were?

Speaker 4 (02:08:18):
Doing?

Speaker 7 (02:08:19):
That was my business In denver WHEN i was, sixteen
AND i think the the old Man, jay he really
wanted to do a see WHAT i, was you, know
able to? Handle SO i ordered a bunch of these
grips From. CHINA i realized the margin was. There it
was OVER. Covid so that was one thing that was
going for.

Speaker 13 (02:08:34):
Me.

Speaker 7 (02:08:35):
Yeah AND i would do these consignments to like shops
all across the.

Speaker 2 (02:08:38):
Country he'd worked.

Speaker 7 (02:08:39):
Shelves i'd load my my car up with all these
boxes of grips AND i would go to all these
bike shops and do the consignment. Deals AND i got
up TO i had all a majority of the shops In,
Colorado New, Mexico arizona love. It AND i had hundreds
of accounts across this side of the. COUNTRY i had

(02:09:00):
two sales, reps and you, KNOW i got good at.
It there was a time, THOUGH i was in In
New mexico right AND i couldn't find a, hotel SO
i had to sleep in my car BECAUSE i kept
getting denied for hotels with a bunch of bike, grips
and it was like Downtown.

Speaker 2 (02:09:14):
Albuquerque oh. Nice i'll never forget, that, nil never forget that.
Night you, KNOW i won't even stop In. ALBUQUERQUE i
drive through. It, man If i'm going To, phoenix, Literally
i'll stop In Santa fe and then we will cruise
cruise Through. Albuquerque you, KNOW i love the way your
parents raised. You We suzanne AND i were very similar
with our. Kids if they didn't have something going, on

(02:09:37):
we made something going. On when they went into taekwondo
with three years, old they were not allowed to. Quit
we taught it just like, school like high. School and you,
know over the years they wanted to quit all the.
Time it didn't. Matter it was just like. School when
it came to sixteen and getting a, car we got
them a. Car but they had to.

Speaker 6 (02:09:54):
Work.

Speaker 2 (02:09:55):
Period when they had jobs and they were still living
under our, roof half of every nickel they made they
had to put into savings and it was just a
regiment and it's stuck with. Them AND i love. That
AND i can tell your parents did that with.

Speaker 4 (02:10:08):
You, Man it's.

Speaker 2 (02:10:09):
Awesome, yeah WELL i know, that especially when my dad's
a harder, Parent jay or your. Mom oh my dad for, Sure.

Speaker 6 (02:10:15):
Jay.

Speaker 7 (02:10:15):
Yeah, absolutely when he got into this, business he had
to struggle really really.

Speaker 11 (02:10:20):
Hard.

Speaker 7 (02:10:20):
COURSE i know that he wanted to put me through
some of, that AND i have certainly gone through a
lot of, that.

Speaker 4 (02:10:26):
And by, design most likely.

Speaker 7 (02:10:28):
He's told me stories about when he was In, texas
so his just quick rundown through his. Story he started
roofing In denver.

Speaker 2 (02:10:34):
And hold, on hold, on let me take. THIS i
do want to hear. It till hold on.

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Speaker 4 (02:12:17):
Him what did he?

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HIM i mean basically that's what he was. Saying almost
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