The Troubleshooter 8-12-25

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, ripped, you need advice so you don't have.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Come running.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Just as fast as we can, Shooter's gonna help coming. Man.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
This is the Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martino.

Speaker 4 (00:24):
Hello everyone, I'm Tom Martino and I'm about to uh
bring up major Mark Major.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
If you're streaming, you'll see him.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
We'll be in a split screen and if you'd like,
you can put a tape over his part and just
watch me. Welcome. Hey, this is the Troubleshooter Show. And
like any other show in the universe, really we solve problems,
ask questions, take complaints, make your life a little easier.
We're covering hundreds of millions of dollars. Mark, I think
we lost track. I swear to you we lost track.

(00:58):
We we truly do work on and off the air
for people and it's really a good thing. And so anyway,
today we're going to start out with your phone calls
and talk about anything you want. But there's a major
development in investment news and as you know, I try
to keep track of that because Wave eight Wealth Management.

(01:19):
But Mark, do you know that they're proposing that everyone
without any special to do will have the freedom to invest?
Now you know their qualified money, their retirement money. They're
four to one k at work into alternative investments.

Speaker 5 (01:40):
I think it's great. It's those people's money. They should
be able to do what they want with it.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
Right and before, what you had to do, and I
did some of it for people, You had to do
separate and mark you and I did it too with
your dad.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
You had to do a.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
Separate LLC not have any connection, and there were all
kinds of hoops you had to jump through.

Speaker 5 (01:59):
And you had to pay some one to look over
it because you had to be arms length.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
Yeah, yeah, that's exactly right. Now they're going to make
it much easier, so people will truly be able if
this goes through, and it should now. I'm not sure
if it tastes congressional approval, but they say the White
House is pushing it and has directed the agencies to

(02:24):
start putting in some rolemaking. So that's exciting to look
forward to.

Speaker 5 (02:28):
What do you think if you didn't have to put
into say a work for a one k, or let's
just take social Security. Let's get the elephant in the
room out there. I'm much rather my social security. Oh
my god, last thirty years goes to wherever I want
it to some kind of either a samp or go somewhere.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
Can you imagine, you know, you talk a lot about
annuities and fixed indexed annuities, which are absolutely Can you
imagine if every penny you made excuse me, that you
contribute to Social Security now went into privatized annuities? Do
you know freaking we ought to have Joe run some numbers.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
I would have over I literally, I know you would
be phenomenal. I mean you would literally have one hundred
and fifty thousand a month till the day you died.
I'd be way over sixty to eighty thousand a month,
and we could both have retired at sixty No.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
No, I mean I wonder why the and you know
the government borrows from Social Security, that's one reason they
love it. But it truly is something that should be privatized.

Speaker 5 (03:38):
Now obvious the downside, right, what are you going to
do with the bums that you know, take that money
and use it to go to Hawaii when they're in
their twenties and thirties. And I say bums because they're
simply not thinking like adult site and then all of
a sudden, what's the safety catch when they go to retire.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Well, that's why I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
The money they don't get to touch, but they get
to direct it. And then there should be approved areas
they can direct the money. In other words, there should
be some privatized annuities that people are allowed to set up.
I don't think. And if they can pick the one
they want, whether it's Alian's or another one, they can
pick what they want, it goes in there and it

(04:20):
becomes their social security. It would you know, our retirees
would be much better off. The private investment community would
get a windfall of investments, and companies would have money.
I mean, Mark, I can't even think of a better
thing than privatizing social security. And I'd like anyone to
dispute that with me. But right now, let's go to Rick,

(04:44):
speaking of retirement. Wouldn't be nice to have mega millions? Rick?

Speaker 3 (04:49):
What's going on with you today?

Speaker 4 (04:50):
Man? What's happening?

Speaker 6 (04:53):
I thown this is best guy named Peter Myers calls
me up. He's called me several times.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
Now, how did who is Peter Myers?

Speaker 6 (05:03):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
He's just out of the blue and call, oh, oh
you got solicited just out of the blue by phone.

Speaker 6 (05:11):
Yeah, on the phoney. He tells me that I'm the
winner of a mega millions. Oh okay, the apartment and
that I won a Mercedes and uh ten thousand dollars
bonus and he's coming over today at eleven thirty.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
You lucky dog.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
The Mercedes and no, wait a minute, wait a minute,
Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. You
get a call and this guy says you won. Now
here's the sixty four thousand dollars question. What do you
have to do to get the prize?

Speaker 6 (05:48):
He's just going to show up with two FBI agents
and go with me down to my bank.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
Oh god, this wait, so he's going to go He's
going to go down to your bank.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Go ahead, Deputy d you what were you going to say?

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Rick?

Speaker 7 (06:04):
Does this guy have a New York state phone number?

Speaker 8 (06:08):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (06:08):
I think it's El Paso, Texas.

Speaker 9 (06:10):
I looked up why what You may recall we had
an almost identical call in October and Mark Major called
this guy and had a conversation with him.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Oh so, Mark, do you remember do you remember that
one guy?

Speaker 4 (06:26):
My god, that was never mind, it's too long, but
it's on YouTube, Mark and I pull pulled a scam
on the scammer and Mark was supposed to be a
special needs person and I was the person who he
was getting money from. Well whatever, I don't know what
to call it, but Mark, it was one of the
funniest bits we.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
Have ever done on radio. Ever.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
I don't know how I give it a bump to
get it up on YouTube, but what we I swear
to you it was so funny. And the whole scenario
was Mark had to get money from me to invest
with this guy the phone. This guy on the phone
was buying everything, and he says, but but my my
either my dad or my uncle or somebody or my grandfather,
he's sleeping, so he's going and sneaking to get it

(07:10):
out of his pocket or something, or to get something Mark.
And then the guy woke up and there was a fight,
and then Mark shot the man again. Right now, he says,
Now I got the money, and this guy on the
phone is going along with all.

Speaker 9 (07:25):
Of this, do this right now with Rick's contact, Mark
is always special needs.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
Yeah, yeah, so Rick, this guy is truly coming over.
Did you tell him to come over? What time is
he coming over?

Speaker 6 (07:38):
Eleven thirty?

Speaker 4 (07:40):
Damn, I wish I could get someone there with their
iPhone cam and just who.

Speaker 5 (07:43):
Keeps highly down? Someone's gonna show up at his house?

Speaker 9 (07:47):
Come on, Tom, I would go, but I don't think
any No, no, no, nobody's much.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
Hold on what part of Rick? Don't give your address?
But what part of town are you in?

Speaker 6 (07:56):
I went, wait, Rich, No.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
We gotta do this, We gotta do it.

Speaker 9 (08:00):
I'll go, but I don't want to hear to make
just fricking me. And that's the scammers.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
Oh my god, would it be something?

Speaker 10 (08:07):
No?

Speaker 4 (08:07):
No, he will?

Speaker 3 (08:08):
They will? They show up?

Speaker 4 (08:09):
They do? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, that's not
going to be the problem. They want to go to
his bank and get the money. Now, Rick, did you
did you let on that you knew what was up?
Or did you play along?

Speaker 6 (08:20):
I played along with him?

Speaker 4 (08:23):
So is he going to show up today? And did
could you tell him you have a friend?

Speaker 9 (08:28):
Well, tell him I can be I can pretend to
be Rick. But Rick, can you call this scammer and
tell him to you need.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
To pretend to be Rick. You can just be his cousin.

Speaker 7 (08:37):
No, I can be Rick or cause whatever I mean.
I don't come up with a script.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
Well, because otherwise we'd have to Rick would have to disappear.
I I no, No, you're smart enough. We don't have
to come up with the script.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
Just see where this guy where this goes.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
And then and then you can literally turn on your
your camp.

Speaker 5 (08:56):
I'm going to guys really say, come on, there is
no way two guys posing at FBI agents. They're going
to show up at this this guy's house.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
Someone call ice.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
So what do you think will happen at eleven thirty?

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Mark?

Speaker 5 (09:09):
I think they'll reach out to him and say, oh, well,
they can't come, but you need to go to the
bank or something.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
I really think it's worth Deputy d I think this.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
Would be cool.

Speaker 7 (09:22):
I think so too.

Speaker 9 (09:23):
I just you know, I'm with Mark, though I don't
think this guy is going to show up. But my
suggestion Tom is Rick calls the guy and reschedules it
because I would. I'd like to prepare for this. I'd
like to I'm going to invite a policeman that.

Speaker 7 (09:36):
I know to be a run.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
We'll have three of you.

Speaker 9 (09:39):
No, there will be only two of us. It will
be me and the policeman, and I'll pretend to be rid.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
Now I don't like that all right, well here's why scam. No, No,
here's why. Okay, there's too much you have to weave
into this to be him. He can be him, you
can be a cousin. We can have now.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
I don't know about the police officer. I mean, but
it's a.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
Scam, but even just getting him on camera, like when
you get to the bank saying, look.

Speaker 7 (10:03):
How my phone fits in this pocket.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
See, there's no perfect I think here.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
I want to get your information off the air, Rick,
and I want d to come over there at eleven
and prepare and then just be your cousin.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Just say you wanted your cousin along.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
Now, Mark, you want to make a side bet that
someone will show up or not? Oh hell yeah, okay,
let's say.

Speaker 5 (10:26):
Well, let's see you owe me seven hundred and forty eight.

Speaker 4 (10:29):
Lunch more than that more than that one?

Speaker 7 (10:32):
Well, what's in it for me?

Speaker 5 (10:34):
Would's going to show it playing out?

Speaker 7 (10:38):
You'll be wrecking me and we're gonna fucking charge it
to you.

Speaker 4 (10:41):
I'm going to bet Mark a steak dinner. You all
heard it on the air, so there's no jacking around,
all right, I'll get the list.

Speaker 5 (10:48):
He knows I don't eat steaks, and I've been on
the weight loss supplement.

Speaker 4 (10:51):
Wait wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on, what did you
hear what he just said to you?

Speaker 9 (10:55):
The state for I've heard him say that about ten
times before, and I agree with him.

Speaker 7 (10:59):
You lost this craving for steak, because.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
Oh that lost is craving. But it's not bad for
weight loss.

Speaker 9 (11:04):
No, no, but there's a component of that medication. There's
a hormone in it that mimics a hormone that's really
prevalent in red meat.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Oh, he's eating it.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
That's why his.

Speaker 7 (11:15):
Body thinks he's already eating steak.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
So Mark, let's uh, well make it whatever kind of Mark.
If you don't eat steak, what do you eat in
place of it?

Speaker 5 (11:26):
Well, to be honest, I simply don't eat much.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
I don't know that. Okay, then I'm definitely gonna.

Speaker 7 (11:32):
I'm and I'll take a bottle of rye.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
No man, oh, kitchina, why did that guy hang up?
I was going to him next, we'll call him back.

Speaker 5 (11:43):
No, no, no, we're there.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
Listen.

Speaker 5 (11:44):
I'll do a bottle of rye.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
That's a good idea.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
And then I'll have a bottle. I can't have alcohol
and me. We'll give you something for doing this.

Speaker 7 (11:54):
Thanks, Rick.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
Hang on, we're gonna get the information. I want everyone
to stay tuned for eleven thirty to see what happened,
because I would like you to actually be have your
somehow have your phone on into the show so we
can hear it live.

Speaker 7 (12:08):
Well.

Speaker 9 (12:08):
I may have to bring two phones in because I'll
be recording with my phone, but I can have another
phone with me.

Speaker 7 (12:14):
For for audio to the show. I mean, I'll be
recording video. I want to get the camera on.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
Videos the victim or what's you mccaus.

Speaker 7 (12:23):
Oh yeah, we can call from the victims phone.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
He can have the phone for audio. You can write
a phone for video.

Speaker 7 (12:28):
That's a great idea. Let's do it.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
And in this state it's a one party consent, so
we're all legal.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
This will be great.

Speaker 5 (12:39):
Oh yeah, Like who cares if they did show a
big deal that the scammers are going to come after us?

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Speaker 3 (13:58):
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
So if you're just tuning in, we're gonna have Deputy
D show up at a guy's house where a scammer
is supposed to show up and take the listener to
his bank to get money. And he says he's going
to be accompanied by the FBI, so we're gonna have
deg go over there in case this guy does show Now,

(14:20):
people on YouTube with our poll and marks that don't
believe anybody will show up.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
But I don't know why a.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
Scammer mark would go through so much trouble to set
up a meeting time and not show up, especially if
the guy agrees to it. What do you think he'll
call it the last minute and say I can't make
it or what what do you think will happen?

Speaker 5 (14:38):
I have no clue, man, zero clue.

Speaker 4 (14:40):
Yeah, but if the guy is taking all this trouble
to extract money, man.

Speaker 5 (14:44):
You know what balls who would take to show up?
I mean if that was my dad and my dad
was telling me this, I might be sitting there with
a baseball bat. The guy would be crazy to show up. Okay,
then why I don't invite him into the house and
plug him.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
I just don't know why a scam would make all
go through all the trouble to set up a meeting.
He would just say, go to the bank and do this.
You know the one that we did that's on YouTube.
The guy was on the phone the whole time. Is
that I'll stay on the phone with you when you
go to your bank.

Speaker 5 (15:13):
And that would be him saying to show up to
a stranger's house trying to rip him off.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
They could have literally told anybody it's nuts. Well, a
lot of people agree with you that he's not going
to show up. But I say, why would anyone go
through all that trouble and not show up?

Speaker 9 (15:30):
Well, it's not an easy question to answer, Tom, But
I just got off the phone with our caller Rick.
So the victim, yeah, we think the victim. Now, what
Rick is going to do right now is called a
scammer Peter something, and he's going to tell him that, hey,
he doesn't want to FBI agents at his house because
they might be looking for him. So he's going to

(15:51):
meet him and the FBI agents at.

Speaker 5 (15:53):
Hey, hey, you're blowing our whole bottle of booze there
bro Well, no hold on.

Speaker 4 (15:59):
He's going to meet him at the bank.

Speaker 9 (16:00):
I still think, Yeah, I don't want to. I don't
want a possible confrontation with three scammers and this elderly
victim at the victim's house. Okay, I'd rather do it
in a public there won't be a confrontation that I
wouldn't initiate.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
Just tell him meet him at the bank.

Speaker 7 (16:12):
At the bank, because man, the cash is right there, and.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
Otherwise you're right. Otherwise there's another location you have to
drive to. Here, you're right, so Rick, so then you
can do all the nerves.

Speaker 7 (16:22):
So Rick is going to make that appointment.

Speaker 9 (16:24):
He's going to call me right back to tell me
what time and which bank the appointment will be at,
and I'll be there and we'll do it live.

Speaker 5 (16:30):
How much is he supposed to get. I forget nothing
he's supposed to. He's just to win the check. Well,
then meeting at a bank.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
Because the guy's going to because he said he has
to meet him, go to the bank with him, and
it's under the guise of depositing this. But what it's
going to turn out to be is he's going to
say you have to pay sales tax or something. You wait,
this is going to be a good one. So that's
going to happen in about what did he say, Well.

Speaker 9 (16:57):
The appointment is I'm supposed to the scammer one to
meet at eleven thirty. Okay, So I'm waiting for Rick,
our caller to call me back after once he confirms
the appointment and the location of the appointment.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
I want to do.

Speaker 9 (17:09):
I just don't want a possible confrontation at the victim's house.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
Okay, Steven, your turn. Our number is three three seven
to one to three talk for the local studio here
and around everywhere else three oh three Martino, you can call.

Speaker 5 (17:24):
Side bet on this side bed. Are they Nigerian? Are
they Chinese? Are they Indian? What do you guys think?
What are we talking? I'm gonna get two bottles of rye.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
I know what they are. I don't know what they are.

Speaker 7 (17:36):
I bet their Russians.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
But anyway, Steven, you want to talk about a scam
as well?

Speaker 3 (17:42):
Steven, what's going on?

Speaker 11 (17:45):
Hello, mister Martino? Short version. I made a purchase of
some investment type coins that I immediately wanted to return
and the company will not respond they have a return.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
Now, how did you?

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Let's go back to how did you? How did you
do this?

Speaker 4 (18:03):
Were you the one that reached out to buy these
or did someone solicit you?

Speaker 11 (18:07):
I was solicited?

Speaker 3 (18:09):
And how were you solicited.

Speaker 11 (18:11):
On the telephone?

Speaker 3 (18:13):
Like you just got a cold call?

Speaker 10 (18:16):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (18:18):
Okay? And what did they say?

Speaker 4 (18:20):
How did and why do you think you were on
this this phone call.

Speaker 11 (18:26):
Uh, well, in the past, I've bought some uh okay,
investment grade coins and such, and okay, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
You were on a you were on a list.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
You were on a list, and and they called you
and they said they have some coins.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
And what did they say about these coins?

Speaker 11 (18:43):
Uh? It was a long conversation about how they're already
x amount of valuable, but within a certain amount of
time they're going to become because of way silver's going,
YadA YadA, they're going to be astronomical, astronomically valuable.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
Okay, what were they offering?

Speaker 4 (19:02):
What was the stammer offering?

Speaker 11 (19:03):
They actually sent them to me. It's Morgan silver dollars.
How many twenty in a roll sealed?

Speaker 4 (19:10):
Did you how many.

Speaker 11 (19:11):
Did you buy the twenty the sealed roll of twenty?

Speaker 4 (19:18):
And how much did you pay?

Speaker 11 (19:20):
Three grand?

Speaker 4 (19:21):
Oh god under Morgan silver dollars for Morgan silver dollars.

Speaker 11 (19:28):
Yes, Morgan silver dollars, one hundred and fifty dollars a coin.
They're eighteen eighty p from the mother Men.

Speaker 4 (19:37):
The face value was one hundred and fifty bucks for
each coin. Well, hold on, What I mean is the value.
How many coins did you buy? One hundred and fifty
of them?

Speaker 9 (19:49):
No, twenty, he buys twenty I'm sorry, twenty of one
hundred and fifty each to fase.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
Okay, but the face value was twenty bucks, yes, for
twenty coins, but he paid three thousand, okay. And then
why did you change your mind?

Speaker 11 (20:06):
Well, first of all, I didn't intend to make the purchase.
The gentleman had my information and ran it anyway. I
didn't understand that way.

Speaker 4 (20:12):
Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait he had your
credit card and all of that.

Speaker 6 (20:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (20:18):
So, like I was trying to explain, I've been I've
bought some coins in the past. I dealt with this
group years ago and they said, is there's something you'd
be interested in? I said, oh, I someday would be
looking for this. And I had bought a piece from them,
so they had my information, They had my wish list.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
Did they have your credit card? Did they have your
credit card info?

Speaker 11 (20:40):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (20:41):
And so andy. They literally though, Steven, if they ran
it without your approval, you could just contest it on
the credit card.

Speaker 11 (20:49):
I've tried to do that. And I was at the
bank yesterday and the bank told me that they're never
going to help me. I'm on my own.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
Because wait, wait why.

Speaker 11 (20:58):
I don't know why you'd have to ask them?

Speaker 3 (21:00):
Wait wait, wait, what kind of credit card is this?

Speaker 2 (21:03):
It's a visa.

Speaker 11 (21:04):
It draws from my checking account.

Speaker 7 (21:07):
It's a debit card.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
It's a debit card, sir, Okay, Well whatever it is, Well.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
That's totally different a debit card. Mark, isn't a debit card?
Totally different? Right?

Speaker 5 (21:18):
It depends if it's used as a credit card, it's
definitely different. But if you put a pin number and
you're done, I think it's the way around.

Speaker 11 (21:26):
My point is that they have a return policy that
I tried to activate immediately, and they will not take
my calls, answer my calls, or give me a return
authorization to check.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
What do you think those coins are really worth?

Speaker 11 (21:40):
I have no idea. It doesn't matter to me because
I can't afford them. So they could be worth a
million dollars, but I can't afford the three thousand now,
so I need to return them, and they will not
do it.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
Well, hold on a second.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
If that debit card was done without authorization, you had
to have given them a pin.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
There is no way they could go through a debit No.

Speaker 11 (22:01):
No, no, you can take this card and I presented
it as a visa, not as a debit card. And
they took the sixteen digit code, the expiration date, the
super secret three digit code, and they had that and
ran it as a visa. But it pulls out of
my checking account.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
No, I get that, sir.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
But Stephen, you're saying they used all of your previous
information and you never approved it. You never said yes,
they did it without you knowing it. So when the
coin showed up, you were shocked because you you didn't
think you bought them, right?

Speaker 11 (22:38):
Yeah, And uh, but I'm not sure how it's relevant.
I'm trying to say.

Speaker 4 (22:42):
It's relevant because, oh, I'm telling you it's relevant because
if you actually did not make the purchase and it's fraud,
it's relevant.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
But I have a.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
Feeling somewhere along the line you probably said, Okay, I
mean maybe not, maybe not. I mean I just can't
believe it. Wait when the coin showed up. Were you
surprised when the coin showed up?

Speaker 11 (23:09):
Yes, but why can't I return them? Does it matter
how or why.

Speaker 12 (23:13):
They showed up? I want, yes, it does?

Speaker 4 (23:15):
They totally matter? Steven, you try to dance around it,
but it totally matters. So if you want to trust us,
we can help. But it does matter exactly how it transacted.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
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(24:21):
Stevens says someone called him to buy some investment coins.
He paid three thousand dollars on his visa debit card,
but he never approved it, and he said they somehow
sent it through anyway. And I said, if that happened

(24:44):
and he was truly surprised when those coins showed up,
he should have sent him back immediately and called it fraud. So, Stephen,
I'm not trying to challenge you. I'm trying to help you.
But I have a feeling that you were not surprised
when the coin showed up.

Speaker 11 (25:03):
Okay, And what do you want me to say?

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Well, I want to know the truth.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
Were you surprised if you did not purchase anything and
coin showed up at your door? I want to know
why you didn't send them.

Speaker 11 (25:15):
Back because they won't give me the authorization number to
send them back. Okay, Now, I tried immediately the very
next day.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
I just need to know this, Stephen, And it is
so important. When you were done with that phone call
and those coins showed up, you thought, how the hell
did these show up?

Speaker 3 (25:37):
I never bought these, that's what you thought.

Speaker 11 (25:41):
That's correct.

Speaker 4 (25:43):
You had no indication whatsoever that there was a transaction
going on.

Speaker 11 (25:50):
That's correct.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
Then you can get your money back if it was
total fraud like or not, your money back. But then
and if you never gave a pin number, it could
not have gone through as a debit.

Speaker 11 (26:04):
That's so pin number.

Speaker 4 (26:06):
Okay, then your bank needs to talk to you or
we need to have somebody call your bank.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
What's the name of your bank?

Speaker 11 (26:14):
Fitzsimmons Credit Union.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
Fitzsimmons Credit Union.

Speaker 7 (26:19):
Yeah, I'm familiar with them.

Speaker 9 (26:20):
I know they're over there by, you know, the big
New VA hospital or two twenty five.

Speaker 5 (26:25):
I need to know was the Centro as a creditor.
All he's doing is muddying the water. He needs to
call up and say this. I have no idea what
this charge is, whatsoever. I called up the company. They
will not refund it, they won't do anything. I didn't
authorize it. None of this bs about a time where
you can return it or other things.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
It right fraud, that's right.

Speaker 7 (26:47):
That's just straight out from it.

Speaker 4 (26:49):
There was an unauthorized transaction on my account and I
don't know what it.

Speaker 9 (26:54):
Is and when was the transaction? And who's the retailer
that sent you those coins?

Speaker 11 (27:00):
I did all that.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
What did you told them? It was total fraud? And
what did they say?

Speaker 11 (27:08):
I went to them. I filed a paperwork literal complaint
I met with an officer and they said they would
look into it. I didn't hear from them. I went
back in a few times and they said, well, we
can't credit your account because the money's out there and
we don't want to lose it. Will help you contact
these people that won't give you a return authorization number.

(27:29):
You keep trying to do the same thing.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
So okay.

Speaker 11 (27:32):
That went on a few days, and I went back
there yesterday and they told me, look, we're never going
to help you.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
Okay, did they Did they say to you, Jason, I've
got all this I've got.

Speaker 11 (27:44):
I've got the fraud complaint I filed to me and
the visa dispute and everything. I've got it right here?
Did they say to you, I did file the visa dispute.
I did say I did not intend to buy them,
and they won't help me. Please call them.

Speaker 5 (28:00):
Okay, what does that mean? I didn't intend buy anything?

Speaker 4 (28:04):
You picked up on the same thing you didn't intend
to or see, we're trying.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
To get into the heart of this.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
You are literally having a conversation and they said, hey,
we have twenty coins and you can pick them up
their fantastic value for around three grand and you said no.
You said, let me get this straight. You said, no,
I'm not interested.

Speaker 11 (28:29):
In the end of the conversation. That's correct. Yes, I said,
you know, I can't do it.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
Okay, yet they put it through anyway.

Speaker 8 (28:36):
Tried to return them.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
Well okay, but but you said no. You absolutely said
because there might be a recorded line or something. First
of all, I don't even know if we can get
a hold of these scammers. Do you know, do you
have a number for these scammers?

Speaker 11 (28:53):
Yeah, yes I do. I've got all the information here.

Speaker 4 (28:56):
Who is the seller to you? Who is the seller.

Speaker 11 (28:59):
Us US Liberty Coin Collections in Delray Beach, Florida.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
And are they okay us?

Speaker 7 (29:07):
What did he say to us one US Liberty Coin Collections?

Speaker 4 (29:10):
Liberty Coin Collections. Are they still around? You said, they're
ghosting you.

Speaker 11 (29:17):
That's correct. They have a recorded message when they see
my phone number. That's all I get.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
Okay. Then we can call them too, because now this
is where and I know, I don't know if it's
been disbanded yet, but the Consumer Finance Protection Bureau this
is something they can help with as well. Plus we
can go to your credit union. I'll tell you what.
Whoever wants this case. They're gonna call Liberty. They're gonna

(29:44):
call your credit union, Fitzsimmons credit Union, and we're going
to figure out why they won't help you. If they
tell us Steven made the purchase and he used a
pin number, You're done. There's nothing we can do about it.

Speaker 11 (30:01):
I never gave any pin numbers. I never gave any
pin numbers. Okay, I say it again, I've never given them.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
I get it.

Speaker 7 (30:07):
When when was this? When did this happen? When did
you get that call?

Speaker 11 (30:11):
July nineteen? Is the purchase datement?

Speaker 7 (30:13):
Okay, so this is really fresh. So a Liberty dollar
I'll take the case.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
Okay, good? Good.

Speaker 11 (30:21):
Is there a chance I can meet with someone and
give my documentation?

Speaker 4 (30:23):
You don't have to meet What is the documentation you're
talking about?

Speaker 8 (30:29):
Uh?

Speaker 11 (30:30):
The invoice that came with the coins, the visa dispute
I filed with the.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
Yeah, we're gonna want copies of that. We don't have
to meet for that.

Speaker 11 (30:38):
Called and talked to all.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
Okay, sorry, what Steven? You don't have to meet with
us for that, but we will get copies of it.
Hold on a sec h Kachina. I'm going to give
this to dollar to start and see where it's going.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
What did did you have some to say?

Speaker 9 (30:51):
D us Liberty Coin Collection Collections doesn't even have a website.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
Yeah, I mean I I think they're totally scanned.

Speaker 7 (30:59):
And Tom we're out of Florida. Yeah, and as you know,
that was the epicenter.

Speaker 9 (31:03):
I mean, it is of all kinds of frauds, starting
with a penny stock scammers.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Of Florida's people. Florida's a hot bed. Tommy, hang on, Danny,
hang on.

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(32:30):
Martina here, welcome. Let's go to Danny with his Hyundai
twenty nineteen Tucson.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
What's going on, Danny? What's happening?

Speaker 13 (32:39):
I've got a twenty nineteen Tucson, got one hundred and
twenty thousand miles on it. Oh wow, posts to oil
life crazy. Uh, I'm figured like three quarters of a
court every Philip. It's got one hundred and twenty thousand
miles on it.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
I've checked.

Speaker 13 (32:55):
There's no leaks, there's there's not burning, there's no smoke,
there's no lack exhaust pipe there.

Speaker 5 (33:02):
It's the oil consumption issue. That's no big deal. Yeah,
but what okay?

Speaker 13 (33:08):
Honestly, when Mark was on that, some lady called in
and had the same problem. Not with the honting with
something else, and you guys had a bunch of advice,
but I didn't get it. So it marks yark.

Speaker 4 (33:22):
What do you mean high oil consumption If it's not
showing up anywhere, what do.

Speaker 5 (33:26):
You mean, Well, some Hondas actually have an extended warranty
on consumption. It doesn't show up. It simply eats the oil.
I mean it is burning it off, but it's so
small you never see smoke or anything. The way they
test for it. You go into the Hondai dealership you
have an oil change, then they recheck it in like
a thousand or two thousand miles and see how much consumption.

(33:49):
If it's one of the things that was under the
class action or the extended warranty, you might get a
new engine.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
Have you been What does the dealer say.

Speaker 13 (33:58):
Danny, I didn't say. I put it to the dealer
on an anti knock sensor problem. I didn't say. They
didn't say anything on the oil. They said it it's
like a like a a month kind of deal. You
have to pay for each time you will change, and
on and on and on, and the guy says, by
the time, by the time you're through, if it's about
three thousand dollars investment, and the chances.

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Speaker 3 (35:51):
So Danny has an issue with oil.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
We looked up or Mark was looking it up as well. Unfortunately,
there isn't always a solution. I mean really, when you
get right down to it, there isn't always a solution.
He bought a car used, it's not under factory warranty,

(36:15):
and it's coming on seven years and it has a
high oil consumption. Now, there were some lawsuits regarding Hondai's
and high oil consumption.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
Mark, didn't you have an engine replaced?

Speaker 4 (36:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (36:30):
I did it about one hundred and five thousand, and
that particular Hondi had a warranty extended to one hundred
and twenty. And I'm pretty sure his Tucson does. But
without his VIN number, there's nothing.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
They just put the VN number up for you.

Speaker 5 (36:46):
Oh, let me look at it. Let me, let me
give me a few minutes.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
Yeah, it's on the call screener.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
So Danny, hang on, we're going to look up that
bin all right, Tommy, your turn. Let's talk about this
car accident. What's going on?

Speaker 12 (37:03):
Oh, it's an incident.

Speaker 10 (37:06):
I came off of some creek and there's three lanes,
one going less apparently the one in the middle. It's
not just the guy straight on and then I was
in the right hand lane turning right in the months
all the heads.

Speaker 4 (37:22):
So tell me about the Let's let's get to the
accident itself, by the way. Hold on a second, All right, Tommy,
can you see why he's so low? I want to
go to Kevin for a second here, Kevin Calk and
Sheridan Auto Tech. Just again, Hold on, Tommy, I'll be
right back to you. Kevin is with Sheridan Auto tech
dot com, one of our auto experts. Great guy. Three

(37:43):
oh three, four, five, five, seventy two, forty two. Kevin,
what do you know about the Hyundai's and oil consumption?

Speaker 15 (37:50):
Well, I know that twenty nineteen was never part of
a recall.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
Oh when did the recall start?

Speaker 15 (37:57):
There's odd years in between twenty the twenty four had
some you know, and not all of them. I mean
it's solely by then, but twenty nineteen was never included.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
Especially, what do you do if he if he came
to you, what do you do for high oil consumption
on a seven year old car with one hundred and
twenty thousand miles?

Speaker 15 (38:19):
There's not a lot you can do other than rebuild
the motor?

Speaker 3 (38:23):
What would that cost?

Speaker 15 (38:26):
You know, if he could even find parts for those
you know, you could spend anywhere between you know, seven
and nine thousands of.

Speaker 4 (38:33):
Oh wow, do you think it's worth it on those
twenty nineteens? No?

Speaker 15 (38:38):
Probably not, probably not. And it's hard. You can't finally
used one. There's there's really not a lot available for him.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
Now what will the oil consumption?

Speaker 5 (38:46):
Just it was like it's say, in a Lantra, not
a Tucson.

Speaker 7 (38:50):
What is this car?

Speaker 4 (38:54):
Danny? Is it?

Speaker 3 (38:55):
Are you sure it's well? He obviously I think.

Speaker 10 (38:57):
He's pretty sure on FTL.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
And what condition is this car in?

Speaker 4 (39:06):
Danny?

Speaker 15 (39:07):
Excellent? Everything is great.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
Are you willing to put a grand into it?

Speaker 15 (39:14):
No?

Speaker 4 (39:16):
Then you might want to sell it, or you might
just want to keep putting oil in it. Kevin, what
will eventually happen if he just keeps putting oil in it?

Speaker 15 (39:23):
Just continue? It'll you can knock out catalytic converters, You
can have other issues. You know, with the oil burning
through the exhaust, it will contaminate the cats eventually. Uh yeah,
it's it's not good once they start burning. I mean,
it's an internal major problem. There's nothing early you can do.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
Just run the wheels off it. Danny, do you owe
money on this? No good? What you ought to do
is just run it as long as you can. Let
Mark continue looking at that bin number. But man, I
got to tell you there there may not be uh
may not be a solution for you.

Speaker 15 (40:00):
Yeah, what I was going to warrant, Yeah, you don't
have a lot of help.

Speaker 6 (40:06):
Okay, what I.

Speaker 13 (40:07):
Was going to do as well as fifty five yelling
drome on my hood at til.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
Yeah. You know, high oil consumption, if it keeps getting worse,
is bad. But I knew a guy wasn't. It's just
no good. You guys got a double check. Okay, double check.
Devin will come back to you. I want to go
to Tommy now with his car accident. Tommy, you were
in a car accident. Whose fault was it? We don't

(40:35):
need the details.

Speaker 10 (40:36):
Of the accident. It was an incident. I've got no
marks on my car, so was another car involved? Tommy yes,
there is. I got no marks on my car and
he was behind me. But they're coming onto me saying

(40:57):
that it was in the row. But that's okay, But
the officer wants me to go to the police station
and try and sort of well, no, he said, he
lost his mind. He started going out. You don't come
in here. We'll issue on we'll do this, we'll do that.

Speaker 4 (41:16):
Tommy.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
Did the guy behind you run into you?

Speaker 10 (41:21):
I didn't feeling, but he started blowing his horn, so
I stopped to get out in case the tail come
down or whatever. And then he went ranting and raving
and doing the threatening crap, And I thought.

Speaker 4 (41:36):
So what you so you never turned anything into insurance?

Speaker 10 (41:40):
Right, I'm sorry, Sagan.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
You never turned anything into your insurance.

Speaker 10 (41:47):
I haven't done anything.

Speaker 5 (41:48):
No, no, no. I think the cop showed up and
maybe gave the other guy a ticket, and they want
you as a witness or a report. What what?

Speaker 4 (41:56):
What?

Speaker 16 (41:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (41:57):
What are you calling him?

Speaker 10 (41:59):
What I like is one of your lawyers who's a
violations lawyer, so that I should take his advice and
now I should handle this?

Speaker 4 (42:11):
How you should handle them, Tommy, Tommy, how you should
handle what? What are you trying to handle. That's what
we haven't gotten from you.

Speaker 10 (42:19):
Yet because he threatened to issue what this target or
the police officers threatening to issue or warrant for my arrest.
Why he didn't tell me that. He said that we
watched a video or something and we're gonna charge you
with causing an accident. I said, well, I wasn't in

(42:42):
an accident, and then he went off off his rocker
and sary shelting and screaming.

Speaker 5 (42:47):
I mean they're trying to say he slammed his brakes
on her brake. Check him listen. I got to say this.
If a cop wants you to come down to the station,
don't go down to the station.

Speaker 4 (42:58):
Yeah, I mean right now, Tommy, why was this accident?

Speaker 10 (43:02):
Uh? I yesterday?

Speaker 4 (43:07):
It was yesterday, Okay, yes, okay.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
Go ahead.

Speaker 9 (43:15):
Tom It could be that this isn't a real policeman
that's calling him.

Speaker 7 (43:19):
It might be it might be the.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Other party they wanted to go to the police station.

Speaker 7 (43:23):
Well, or are they trying to get you to pay something.
On the phone, he.

Speaker 10 (43:30):
Was telling me that he's got some camera there, mare
and I was wrong.

Speaker 4 (43:36):
But wait the police, Tommy, did you guys exchange information
at the scene of the accident or did you stop
to the guy?

Speaker 10 (43:49):
Yeah, I got out to see what he was blowing
horn about and he me okay, So I got out
and then he started shouting and screaming and what.

Speaker 16 (43:58):
He didn't do today?

Speaker 10 (44:00):
And I said, well, he said, I got nothing. It
wasn't going backwards. I mean it was going right right.

Speaker 4 (44:08):
So Tom and Mommy, did you guys exchange information or
did you just mouth leave?

Speaker 10 (44:15):
Because because we were, I said, let's go to the
shell goes and we could do that because the track
is the did you do? Did he drug? He drugs?
Fuck the road?

Speaker 4 (44:31):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (44:32):
So basically you both heres what I'm telling you. What
happened the guy. Either the guy thought you were break
checking or doing something wrong, and he's probably got a
dash cam. When the cops got a hold of it,
they want you to come down and explain it. But
you're absolutely insane to go down there.

Speaker 4 (44:51):
I would just ignore it. I mean, why would they
arrest you for what?

Speaker 10 (44:56):
Oh? I don't know, that's what.

Speaker 5 (44:57):
That's what the plea Let me let me ask you
got a green card with that accent?

Speaker 10 (45:05):
A green cards?

Speaker 15 (45:06):
Greek?

Speaker 10 (45:06):
God?

Speaker 5 (45:06):
Okay, Oh goodness, I'm kidding. You have an accent.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
He's just kidding. He's just kidding around.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
Tommy, Listen, what police is Did the police officer say
to come down there and fill out a report or
to do what.

Speaker 10 (45:23):
He said? The coming to the police station because I
was already on my way up to den but somebody
else and he said he wanted me if I'm not
there tomorrow, the issue a warrant for my arrest, and
I want you to get well.

Speaker 4 (45:39):
Okay, Look, he can issue a warrant for your arrest,
but not for not showing up. You don't have a
summons to show up to police stations.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
You don't have to go and talk to him.

Speaker 4 (45:50):
I know what's happening, and Mark is right. This guy
is putting up a stink saying that you did something,
and now the police are being bugged by this guy
and they're trying to get you to go in to
see if they can nail you with something. If I
were you, I would ignore it. Hey, Tom, Yes, we
do have John Fuller on line three, who would like

(46:11):
to contribute. Who is this John Fuller on John Fuller. Okay,
let's go to John Fuller, our personal injury expert.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
John what do you think is going on?

Speaker 16 (46:21):
They're going to charge this guy with leaving the scene
of the accident or hit and run. They're absolutely going
to charge him with that based upon the video and
the affidavit or the report put in by the other guy.
If he goes down there, he's going to get charged. Routinely,
when I used to be a criminal defense attorney.

Speaker 15 (46:39):
We would advise people to invoke.

Speaker 16 (46:41):
Your Fifth Amendment rights to not say a single thing
to a police officer at all and have him, you know,
we would volunteer that the cop could serve the ticket
on us, which they never did. It's just a bully
tactic by the police to get you to come down
there to where they can they can extract some sort
of admission that you were part of the accident or

(47:02):
some incident happened, and then they can say the greater
way to the evidence leads them to believe that it
was a hit and run and to write to this big,
you know, huge twelve point ticket that you definitely don't
want to have on your record.

Speaker 4 (47:14):
So, John, if he ignores this, what do you about it?

Speaker 3 (47:18):
If he ignores this, what do you think will happen?

Speaker 16 (47:21):
Well in the past, when we would we would politely
decline to come down there on Fifth Amendment grounds. Eventually
it would just get closed and go away because it's
entirely hearsay. They have nothing. The guy has no obligation
to cooperate at all. He can just simply tell them
that he's not interested in coming down and discussing it.

(47:42):
And if they want to swear out a warrant, by
all means, do it. But you know, but don't fall
prey to these bully tactics that tell you to come
down there. I mean, I'm going solely off of what
the guy is telling you, but my experience leads me
to believe that they intend to charge him with hit
and run based on what the other guy says. I
could be totally wrong if I don't know the full story,

(48:04):
but right my take on it based on what I heard.

Speaker 4 (48:07):
Okay, that's what it sounds like to us. So I
believe he should just basically wait for them to do
something official, and if they don't, then.

Speaker 16 (48:18):
I wouldn't tell the police that I'm not coming down.
You know, I have no desire to speak with you.
I have a Fifth Amendment right not to incriminate myself.
And if you decide to swear out a warrant, call
me up and I'll come tear my or turn myself in.
But I'm not going to come down and okay and
have a discussion with you, you know.

Speaker 4 (48:39):
Yeah, John, we certainly appreciate your input on this, John Fuller,
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you ever get into an accident you need some help,
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he will talk to you directly, even before you hire him. Okay,
thanks John. So now, Tommy, that's what our attorney is saying.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
I would do the same thing.

Speaker 4 (49:00):
I would ignore it or tell them you're not interested
in coming down based on your Fifth Mendment right now
to incriminate yourself and if they have to swear out
a warrant, tell them that you'll turn yourself in. I
don't think anything will come of it. Mark Oll, let's
take this break first.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
We got more calls to take.

Speaker 4 (49:15):
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h three seven one three talks seven one three eight
two five five. So what is going on with this
new law not law, but this new requantm it's relaxed
let's just say, relax regulations and they will allow people
to start investing in regular investments. I mean, that's pretty

(50:26):
pretty amazing. They made a move.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
Americans in their for one case.

Speaker 4 (50:33):
Can invest in things not yet, but it's it's it's
in the works. You can invest in real estate, private companies,
even crypto.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
And this isn't just.

Speaker 4 (50:46):
For iras that are transferred to independent trustees. It will
be a major change in for one case, you know,
for one case, anyway at work have always been limited
in their scope of investment because employers hook up with
an advisement firm and then the advisement firm limits the selections,

(51:08):
and employees can make selections within that limited scope, but
usually they don't have a big variety. Some people, when
they're allowed to have what's called an in service distribution
or in service rollovers, means that if you accumulate money
in your four o one K, you can keep the

(51:30):
four oh one K open and you can still contribute
to it at work and your employer can still match it,
but you're allowed to take a bundle of it and
move it to an IRA, and that's called an in
service distribution, meaning you're not closing out the four oh
one K, you're just moving hunks of money into an

(51:51):
IRA so it can be self directed or so you
can have more investment choices that may no longer be needed, okay,
because if they allow you to invest in private equity,
real estate, digital assets, even infrastructure, then you can go

(52:12):
directly from your four oh one K into these. Now,
basically this has been something only reserved for iras that
were placed with independent trustees. For example, people who wanted
to use their retirement money for let's say Vestera turnkey Vestera.

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and they've been making incredible returns for people. In fact,
I'm closing on one of those today, another one of those,
so I have quite a few houses with them now Vestera.
Of course, if you wanted to do it with your
IRA or your four o one K, you had to
have a self directed trustee, and then you had to
go into a company that does where you don't have control. Again,

(53:18):
you're not allowed to control investments made in your four
oh one K or your IRA. It has to be
what's called an arm's length transaction.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
That will still be the case.

Speaker 4 (53:30):
But you're no longer going If this goes through, you
will no longer have to transfer it.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
To an independent trustee.

Speaker 4 (53:38):
You can keep it right there in your four oh
one K and just make the investment. Of course, if
the investment qualifies, most legit investments will qualify. Festera certainly
will probably be one of them.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
And again what I do is.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
Help people do that now with their qualified money by
forming an LLC. I form the LLC, I take control
of the LLC, so people with qualified or retirement money
are allowed to invest in it, and then we can
invest investterum and they can use their retirement funds to
do that. But the point is this, it's going to

(54:16):
be much easier, bottom line, if this goes through, and
it looks like it's going to, it's going to be
a lot easier to make alternative alternative investments with your
four O one ks and your iras. And that's really
really good because most iras, as I said, are limited

(54:36):
in scope and people have very low returns usually on
four O one ks. So that would include ETF Switzer
exchange traded funds, which by the way, made double digits
last year. It will include real estate or REITs, real
estate investment trusts.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
There'll be a whole world open to people.

Speaker 4 (54:57):
Now. Remember this though, with the opening of investments for
retirement money. If it goes through. I keep saying that
because it's not law yet. If it goes through, there
will be a lot more risk as well.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
So don't mistake this as a panacea.

Speaker 4 (55:14):
Because when people are allowed to invest in other things
other than the limited choices of their four O one K,
there will be increased risk. Remember that's one of the
reasons four one ks are limited in their scope, because
they don't want people to risk their retirement funds. Now,

(55:35):
I'm not sure about this, but I'm not sure, but
I'm wondering will people be able to take their four
oh one K funds and invest in an annuity? That
would be interesting, wouldn't it, And then all of their
four oh one contributions four one K contributions could go
into an alternative investment and call it an annuity.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
That is not made clear in this proposed but that.

Speaker 4 (56:01):
Would be an excellent way to save for future income.
If you took your list, so you you have your
four to one K right your employer's matching it, but
monthly you pay into or quarterly you pay into an annuity,
and then instead of drawing down a four oh one
K which will eventually exhaust, you will have an annuity

(56:22):
that you can annuitize at the end. So I need
to look into that because if that happens, that would
be an excellent way to get an annuity inside your
four oh one k to have mandatory contributions and then
instead of exhausting the four oh one K, you would

(56:43):
have that income component for life. We have more coming
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give us a call at three oh three seven one
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Speaker 3 (57:46):
Why is Danny still on? What are we waiting on?

Speaker 4 (57:48):
With him?

Speaker 5 (57:49):
But I did, I was able to run the vin
finally and uh zero safety recalls, zero recalls. And I
also checked to see if he was part of the
the lawsuit and that Vin is not part of that either,
So he's done.

Speaker 4 (58:04):
He's just out of look and Danny. According to the
records I found on your Vin, this.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
Was a total, a total.

Speaker 4 (58:12):
It's not a salvage title, but it is a branded title.
It was totaled by the insurance company for hail damage.
Did you know that?

Speaker 10 (58:21):
Yes?

Speaker 15 (58:21):
I did.

Speaker 4 (58:22):
Okay, So you bought it as a damaged car or
did you fix it?

Speaker 7 (58:27):
No?

Speaker 15 (58:28):
I bought it a damage car.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
Okay. Did you get a good deal on it?

Speaker 15 (58:34):
Go ahead? I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (58:36):
Did you get a good deal on it?

Speaker 10 (58:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (58:38):
I did, and there's no damage. I mean, it's got
a hail damage, but you can't see it. It was amazing,
a couple of up on the roof.

Speaker 4 (58:46):
It was.

Speaker 13 (58:47):
I got a good deal on it and everything else
now I'm paying for it.

Speaker 15 (58:50):
A good deal. Wasn't all that good?

Speaker 3 (58:52):
So well?

Speaker 4 (58:53):
Yeah, no one could have predicted that oil consumption. Did
it start right after you bought it? Or did it
start when? Did it start? The oil consumption problem?

Speaker 13 (59:05):
When I bought the card had ninety six thousand on
it immediately, Like the second second time I filled up,
I checked the oil and it was below the dipstick.
And so it's been going on ever since then.

Speaker 4 (59:19):
So exactly how much would you say you use in
a thousand miles if you can estimate?

Speaker 13 (59:26):
Uh, yeah, you figured out. I got figured that.

Speaker 15 (59:31):
It's like three quarters of a court every six hundred miles, So.

Speaker 5 (59:36):
Every six hundred miles, no way, bro, Yeah.

Speaker 13 (59:41):
Every every other every other pill up, I fill up
the gas and every other time I fill up, it's
down about three quarters of a court.

Speaker 5 (59:49):
Well, that's not gonna be there. You've got a major
problem then. I mean, you've got a big oil leak.
That's not if you're not seeing smoke and you're leaving
losing three quarters of a court every three hundred miles.

Speaker 4 (01:00:03):
You've got me six hundred miles every six hundred.

Speaker 13 (01:00:06):
Miles, and there's no oil leaf, there's no puddle. I've
looked over the engine and the engine is dry.

Speaker 15 (01:00:11):
It can be.

Speaker 5 (01:00:15):
To look at that.

Speaker 6 (01:00:17):
Pardon how much?

Speaker 17 (01:00:19):
I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
You don't have any black smoke.

Speaker 13 (01:00:22):
No, it's it doesn't blow smack you stick your finger
in the tail pipe. It's it's stoody, but not greasy, oily,
it's not that black. There's no sign of where this
oil is gone.

Speaker 4 (01:00:33):
So what it's saying is you consume about one and
a quarter quarts. I did the math here for every
one thousand miles. Now do you know that many manufacturers
won't even look at a car until it exceeds a
quart in one thousand miles. So you're above that obviously,

(01:00:57):
but they don't owe you anything to look at anything.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
That's is what I'm I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:01:01):
So, so one in a quarter courtse every thousand miles.

Speaker 15 (01:01:07):
That's that's what I got. Count three courds of a
course every six Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:01:13):
So in any case, man, just if I were you,
I would just drive it as long as I could.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
What did you pay for that.

Speaker 15 (01:01:21):
Eleven grand?

Speaker 4 (01:01:23):
You were right in the ballpark for the wholesale You
know what. You didn't do bad by the way. I mean,
you bought it under the value, but not with the
oil problem.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
But it didn't have the oil problem.

Speaker 4 (01:01:36):
Your retail value right now with the mileage is sixteen grand.

Speaker 13 (01:01:41):
But no, it was a goodbye and the car is beautiful.
I couldn't believe it was totaled out for rain damage
because you couldn't see any hail, Mark said at all,
So it's just as amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:01:54):
So anyway, it's too bad, too bad. How long have
you owned it in time wise? Oh?

Speaker 18 (01:02:01):
Aboucked up?

Speaker 15 (01:02:03):
Maybe maybe eight months?

Speaker 4 (01:02:06):
Okay, man, that's too bad. So you're gonna have to
figure it out. Maybe someone will take it off your hands,
or you just drive it until the wheels fall off.
As they say, three out three seven one three talks
seven one three eight two five five. People are asking
for an update on the scammer. As we last talked
to him, he was making an appointment. The scammers were

(01:02:28):
going to come to his house or they they said
they were. Of course a lot of people don't think
they will. And then Deputy d thought, you know that's
not cool. If I go over there and they actually
do show up, there could be a confrontation at his house,
could be weird.

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
I'd rather meet somewhere public.

Speaker 4 (01:02:45):
So he asked the consumer to make the deal at
to have he had talked to Rick and said, was
it Rick? Yeah? His name was Rick, and have have
them meet him?

Speaker 7 (01:03:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:03:01):
I said, look, tell them to meet us at any bank.
And I said, Rick, pick a bank that's not your bank.
I said, just pick a branch that's close to.

Speaker 7 (01:03:09):
Where you live, that's convenient for you.

Speaker 9 (01:03:11):
Tell the scammer that you'd like to meet him there,
because hey, right there you can deposit your check. You
can also withdraw cash to pay the income tax, all
that stuff that the scammer might want to collect from him.

Speaker 7 (01:03:22):
And I said, Rick, let me.

Speaker 9 (01:03:24):
Know what day and what time, including today at eleven thirty,
which has now come and gone, and I'll be there.

Speaker 7 (01:03:31):
So that was Rick's project.

Speaker 9 (01:03:33):
I haven't heard back from Rick yet, so it seems
like he's having trouble scheduling an appointment with.

Speaker 4 (01:03:38):
A camera and we're trying to reschedule because of a
number of reasons and a conflict the deputies d schedule.
So we're still working on it, so stay tuned. Maybe
we can make that appointment for tomorrow. It's my opinion,
if they think they have a fish on the hook,
they're not going to let it go, so I think

(01:03:58):
they will be willing to reschedule.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
Well that's just my opinion.

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three three seven one to three Talk Gary. What's going
on with you?

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
Gary?

Speaker 4 (01:05:21):
Gary? Are you there? I have been go ahead?

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
Yes?

Speaker 8 (01:05:24):
Can you can you?

Speaker 4 (01:05:25):
I can hear I can hear you?

Speaker 8 (01:05:27):
Anow sir, Yes, thank you for taking my call. I
am being sued by corporation in Texas. This corporation feels
that I posted something online using an old email of mine.
So it is an old email of mine from like

(01:05:48):
twenty twenty five years ago, an AOL account. I haven't
used that account for like twenty years. At least I
thought it was an all void.

Speaker 4 (01:05:57):
Part of my past.

Speaker 8 (01:05:59):
Anyway, it appears it appears that someone stole or hacked
into that email somehow and is using that email to
post things online against this corporation. This corporation is unhappy with, Like,
what give us.

Speaker 5 (01:06:19):
An idea of one of the posts?

Speaker 4 (01:06:22):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (01:06:22):
No, no, I have not. I'm afraid to look at
the posts. So and it says in this package, you know,
if I make any sort of attempt, making any type
of communication in any form whatsoever to harass the no
oil alarm, abuse, torment, embarrassing, can I.

Speaker 4 (01:06:38):
Ask you something like have you ever had dealings with
this company?

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
Ever?

Speaker 8 (01:06:43):
Never?

Speaker 4 (01:06:44):
No? Never?

Speaker 5 (01:06:45):
Can you send us a picture of the letter at
least the cover?

Speaker 4 (01:06:48):
Well, hold on, it's an actual lawsuit, gary or a threat.

Speaker 8 (01:06:53):
No, it's a lawsuit on that And I thought it
was a scam, honestly going to So this letter.

Speaker 10 (01:06:58):
I was so, it's so.

Speaker 8 (01:07:00):
I thought it was a scam. It was sent to
me July tenth via my current email with my proper
with my proper name.

Speaker 4 (01:07:09):
That's not it.

Speaker 8 (01:07:11):
Now. The citation is an incorrect name. It's close to
my name, but it's not spelled correctly. This letter from
the attorney, This letter from the attorney utilized my correct
email address and my correct.

Speaker 5 (01:07:25):
Gary Jerry, I want to go back to something real quick.
Did you get served with service for a lawsuit that's
been filed?

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
Yes, he said, yes, How were you served?

Speaker 7 (01:07:37):
And is that where the misspelling of your name appears?

Speaker 8 (01:07:43):
So, my next door neighbor lady, I live out in
the country, pretty kind of remote. My next door neighbor
lady said, Gary. Someone has been trying for the last
two days to serve you. A black car has been
here for the last few days. Anyway, long story short,
I'm on a Sunday, I'm wat out in my mom's
front yard.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
I'm walking, Gary. Too much detail as somebody served you?

Speaker 4 (01:08:05):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:08:07):
Yes? Okay, Gary, listen my mom.

Speaker 4 (01:08:10):
This this company means business. If they went and took
an old email address and did enough research to find you,
that is amazing to me. What kind of a company
is it? Tell me what's the name of the company,
Because what you're saying is public information. There's there's nothing
bad about telling me who's suing you?

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
Who is it?

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Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
You didn't need advice?

Speaker 7 (01:09:10):
Who you don't have?

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
Come running just as fast as we can. Shooter's gonna
help coming.

Speaker 14 (01:09:19):
Man Dix is the Troubleshooter Show.

Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
No Tom Martine.

Speaker 4 (01:09:25):
Hey, I'm Tom Martino, and I welcome you to the
only show of it's kind anywhere where we're solving problems,
answering questions, and taking complaints. It's halftime on the Troubleshooter Show.
I like to review what we have, but first I'll
get to my calls. I want to go to Jay
real quick, who has a comment on high oil consumption
on a Honday, twenty nineteen, Jay, go ahead, what is

(01:09:46):
your comment? This guy's has no choice, he's not under warranty.
There's no class action suits. Sometimes you buy a used
car and that's what you get.

Speaker 3 (01:09:54):
Go ahead, Jay, Yeah, coming on now on that one.

Speaker 19 (01:10:01):
When I talk to my truck and used the amount
of oil, the switch to oil purple, and it just
has a lot of better cleaners in it stuff and
it will help loosen up the rings. And it's just
really amazing that I get better my leads and I
don't use oil, so he could try something like that.
But okay, Colorado. With Colorado, we use the California really

(01:10:23):
strict emission, so our cataltic converters are beachd up really
good and they'll burn a lot of oil clean off
if you want you to know it. So that's probably
what's going on there. But the guy that's getting suit
in Texas, he said something really interesting. He said that
the letter says not to talk about it or they're

(01:10:43):
going to have a million dollars or something to the lawsuit.
Oh that sounds like a scam, and I haven't heard it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
Yeah, it does. It does sound like a scam.

Speaker 19 (01:10:52):
So those are my thoughts.

Speaker 4 (01:10:54):
I mean, it just said, it does sound like a
complete scam.

Speaker 3 (01:10:57):
First of all, they can't if.

Speaker 4 (01:10:58):
The lawsuits are public, so it's not like it's not
like they can tell them not to talk about something.
I mean, so that part, I don't understand. What's that.

Speaker 19 (01:11:12):
I had a twenty five year old email, but I
didn't want to say something to you, which is the
very first show you ever did in Denver. Yes, I
started listening to you and.

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
Seeing you no fooling really.

Speaker 19 (01:11:27):
Show when you hit them.

Speaker 4 (01:11:28):
So really, well, that's great, that's great talking to Thank
you man, that is really cool. Yeah, you know what,
God has blessed me. I I really, as I said,
I you know, my my my recent uh my recent
bout had really has put some priorities on my life.

Speaker 3 (01:11:47):
And I I realized how much I love.

Speaker 4 (01:11:49):
Doing what I'm doing because people say, well, now what's
going on, Tom? You know, I might slow down a bit,
and but but I just love what I do and
I'm going to continue doing it. So thanks letting me
know about the show. I'm glad that you've been with
us this long. So back to Gary. Now you say
you need legal help. Gary, this is very strange. These

(01:12:11):
people are very serious. You know you only have twenty
one days to respond in most lawsuits.

Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
So your come did you? Have you found an attorney yet?

Speaker 8 (01:12:22):
I am trying. I did respond. I responded because I
didn't know what to do, and so I contacted my
attorney friend that I've known here in Colorado. He's retiring.
He couldn't help me anyway. Referred to me. I've touched
base with many. I must have long story short, I
must have a Texas attorney. I'm trying to contact Texas attorney. However,

(01:12:44):
I can't afford. Really, I don't make much money. I
can't afford two to six hundred dollars.

Speaker 4 (01:12:51):
I okay, let me ask you something Gary, Gary, this
is important. Where do you have to appear for this?
Where's this lawsuit being liddy? Is it federal? Is it state?
What is it?

Speaker 8 (01:13:05):
As it? As it is? This is not not this
Friday the next Friday. It's a zoom. It's being done
via zoom.

Speaker 7 (01:13:15):
Okay, and I.

Speaker 8 (01:13:15):
Have never done it, and I'm just freaking out, and
I've contacted my local sheriff.

Speaker 4 (01:13:19):
What did they say are the damages? What tell me
about the lawsuit? I want to read it and and
but but I don't have it, So read.

Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
Some of it to us.

Speaker 8 (01:13:31):
The lawsuit?

Speaker 4 (01:13:33):
What does it claim that you've done irreparable harm? And
I mean they they're going to have to go some
to prove actual damages, for God's sakes.

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
What are they saying you did?

Speaker 8 (01:13:45):
The facts and circumstances giving rise to the defamation, business discouragement, slandering. Okay,
Torch's interference has described here and above.

Speaker 3 (01:13:55):
Okay, what did they say you posted.

Speaker 4 (01:13:59):
Without giving their name?

Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
Just what did they say you posted?

Speaker 4 (01:14:04):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (01:14:04):
Some things like let me kind of look here something
if you want me to look at the project and
tell you exactly why you should stay away?

Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
Okay, DM me, I don't I get it. I get it.

Speaker 4 (01:14:25):
So some royalty owner got pissed off. But what I
don't understand is this, Let's say a royalty owner or
some working interest investor or somebody was pissed off at
this exploration company. Why would they hack your email? An
old email you have? I mean do they make reference
to that old email.

Speaker 8 (01:14:48):
Only that that was the email that was used in
my answer letter because I didn't know what to do.
I had twenty days to respect I did.

Speaker 3 (01:14:58):
In your answer letter? What did you respond?

Speaker 8 (01:15:02):
But I haven't used that email? That that was an
email of mine? I mean, I'm an honest guy, it was,
it was my email. I haven't used it for like
twenty years years? And did you Gary?

Speaker 4 (01:15:16):
Did you simply deny that you even did it?

Speaker 6 (01:15:20):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:15:20):
Yes, I said, Well, okay, well they have a burden of.

Speaker 3 (01:15:23):
Proof, not you.

Speaker 12 (01:15:27):
Tom.

Speaker 8 (01:15:27):
Do you feel I'm safe? Should I represent myself during this?

Speaker 4 (01:15:30):
No, I'm not telling you anything like that. Here's what
I'm saying. Okay, First of all, I don't think anyone
should ever represent themselves. But I don't know. If I
were you, and you have no choice because you can't
afford an attorney, you can just say, look, I don't
know what this is stemming from, but I have never

(01:15:53):
ever posted anything online about this company.

Speaker 3 (01:15:58):
It's it's totally wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:16:00):
And even though this email address was used, I haven't
used this email address in years. Are you able to
even log into this email address?

Speaker 8 (01:16:12):
Not that I know of it? And but I'm afraid,
you know, I've had my computer guy help.

Speaker 5 (01:16:17):
They're going to have whatever IP address it came from.
I mean, that's pretty straightforward, unless few is smart enough
to use a VPN.

Speaker 4 (01:16:26):
So okay, Gary, listen, I believe you.

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
I believe that you're.

Speaker 4 (01:16:33):
Being You know that that somehow they've traced this to you.
What Mark is saying, an IP address is every time
you log onto the Internet, your computer has an IP
address where it's located and the time of day, and
it's a log.

Speaker 3 (01:16:51):
IP addresses are very.

Speaker 4 (01:16:53):
Seldom traced unless it's a threat or a lawsuit or
something like this. But people who think they're anonymous or not,
even if you don't use your name, somebody with enough
horsepower can trace your IP address. What That's why I'm saying,
these people mean serious business. They had to hire somebody

(01:17:16):
to trace that IP and they hired a law firm.
For God's sakes, they're coming after you. I mean, Gary,
are you a man of means?

Speaker 8 (01:17:26):
No? Honest to God, I looked at I was trying
to get legal help downe in Texas for low income.
But it's like you have to be within one hundred
and forty one percent. I think of, Gary, I looked
at my last year.

Speaker 3 (01:17:42):
What is your yearly income? What is your yearly income?

Speaker 8 (01:17:46):
But last year my gros suggested before standard deduction was
thirty two five hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
Okay, Now, Lisa, and what do you own?

Speaker 5 (01:17:57):
Hey, what's the name of the law what's the name
of the attorneys a law firm?

Speaker 16 (01:18:04):
God?

Speaker 8 (01:18:05):
Can I say I'm not get in trouble?

Speaker 4 (01:18:07):
Gary, I don't know if you can say not get
in trouble. You're not saying anything bad about these people.
Everything you're talking about is public record. The lawsuit is
public record. I mean, if they're suing you, who is
the plaintiff suing? We don't even give your last name. Gary,
No one's gonna get that from us. Who What is

(01:18:28):
the name of the company? I mean, do you want
us to call them and try to negotiate something? What
do you want we could call them without doing representing?

Speaker 5 (01:18:36):
You look up the law firm to see if they're
known for shakedowns.

Speaker 4 (01:18:41):
What's the name of the law firm, Gary, This is
public record.

Speaker 8 (01:18:46):
The law firm is Freedman and Figer, Friedman fried m
a Ni.

Speaker 4 (01:18:55):
Freedman and Figer. Okay, Meanwhile, keep keep get just take Mike.
I want to get Mike's comment on this. Mike, what
do you have to say about this issue?

Speaker 10 (01:19:06):
Hey?

Speaker 18 (01:19:06):
What the fix might be for him to talk to
the attorneys and tell me that he demanded the IP
address that the email was set from. The idea dress
is roll static. Now you're not dynamic anymore, so that
would allow him.

Speaker 3 (01:19:19):
Well hold on, wait, wait, what do you mean they're not?
Of course they're dynamic. They're not all fixed.

Speaker 4 (01:19:26):
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 18 (01:19:27):
Your your IP addresses were at your home, never changed
the scene. Your IP address on your phone never change.

Speaker 7 (01:19:34):
They can't you, dude.

Speaker 5 (01:19:36):
That's your local area network.

Speaker 18 (01:19:39):
That's the IP address where you send your emails from them.

Speaker 4 (01:19:43):
No, okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I don't agree. Maybe
I'm wrong. You're saying all IP addresses now are fixed
and you forever have it.

Speaker 12 (01:19:56):
Well as long as you live with that aggress.

Speaker 18 (01:19:58):
Yes, they did that because people with dynamic IPS we
just do whatever you wanted.

Speaker 15 (01:20:03):
They couldn't catch it.

Speaker 12 (01:20:04):
They did it for law enforcement.

Speaker 3 (01:20:07):
Okay, I'm going to tell you something.

Speaker 4 (01:20:09):
Okay, listen, most IP addresses are dynamic, whether you like
it or not.

Speaker 3 (01:20:17):
I just looked it up with my boyfriend.

Speaker 5 (01:20:19):
You've got to pay for a static IP address.

Speaker 4 (01:20:21):
That's right given and according to Chat, according to my boyfriend,
I'm proud of using my boyfriend.

Speaker 3 (01:20:27):
I have Chat GPT, but I also have GROC.

Speaker 4 (01:20:31):
And they're saying that that there are dynamic IP addresses,
which hour is the majority of home and mobile internet connections.
To get a fixed IP many providers they charge extra.

Speaker 3 (01:20:52):
So I'm just going by what this says.

Speaker 4 (01:20:54):
It says there are a sign manually permanently provided by
your Internet service provide or for an extra charge. I mean, listen,
I don't mind you calling in, but I can't have
you say things that are wrong. I mean, most IP
addresses are not are not static.

Speaker 3 (01:21:10):
They're just not.

Speaker 4 (01:21:13):
All right, I mean, and and you can prove that
to yourself by simply going to your IP and finding
out what it is and next time you log on
for a walk. Anyway, I don't want to debate that.
We're getting off the topic. Gary, thank you for calling.
Let's go back to Mike. What were you going to say, Mark,
or I mean, I'm going back to I'm going back
to Gary.

Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
I mean, Mike, thanks for calling. So here's the deal.

Speaker 4 (01:21:37):
Gary, you need to address this because you don't want
to get a default judgment.

Speaker 3 (01:21:42):
How much are they asking for?

Speaker 8 (01:21:45):
Well, in the letter and if I can, Tom, please,
one of the statements from the attorney you me you
are no longer permitted to contact my client regarding this
matter or any other matter.

Speaker 4 (01:21:56):
Oh okay, okay, what if we contact the law What
are they asking for?

Speaker 8 (01:22:03):
Well, they're saying that legal damagees they've already incuraged seventy
five hundred and and one of one of the lines
is and and interest seeking actual and punitive damages for
your wrongful conduct in an amount not less than a
million dollars, not less than not less million dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:22:25):
This sounds like a slap lawsuit. Do you know what
a slap lawsuit is?

Speaker 8 (01:22:30):
Well, yeah, yeah, that I'm not that that you can't
say things or or or it's okay to say things,
you know, and you shouldn't be reprimanded for it kind
of thing.

Speaker 4 (01:22:42):
What it means is a it's a it's a lawsuit
against public interest, meaning they they are they want to
punish you, so they slap a lawsuit on you.

Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
And and it's there.

Speaker 4 (01:22:57):
There's some anti slap laws that might be in effect.
That's why you need to consult an attorney.

Speaker 8 (01:23:04):
And I'm because that I can't.

Speaker 4 (01:23:06):
Hey, Tom, I do have Marco on Okay, let's talk
Marco Bendinelli. I gotta take this break. Man, if he
could put the phone down for a few minutes, because
I want to give him time to talk.

Speaker 3 (01:23:20):
And we'll explore this right after this.

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Speaker 3 (01:23:56):
Two him you know here, Welcome to this show.

Speaker 4 (01:24:02):
So Gary's in a pickle, and I want to talk
about this in general and then specifically. Gary is being
sued by a Texas oil exploration company for supposedly posting
negative remarks online. By the way opinions expressed online are

(01:24:26):
protected speech. Now, when you are sued for making comments
and giving opinions, no matter how detrimental they seem, if
they are not malicious, known to be false, but simply opinions,
many of them are protected by anti slap legislation.

Speaker 3 (01:24:48):
Let me explain this to you.

Speaker 4 (01:24:50):
A slap lawsuit is strategic lawsuit against public participation. What
that means is when a large corporation or a corporation
or anyone goes after a little guy for expressing opinion.
It's often called a slap lawsuit. The intention is not

(01:25:12):
to win or to collect money. The intention is to
punish the person and stop them from giving their opinions. Now,
these are that many states, including Texas, have anti slap
laws where you can quickly get these lawsuits dismissed. You

(01:25:35):
can actually get attorneys fees if it's ruled by the
judge to be a slap lawsuit and you can get
it dismissed under anti slap legislation. You can actually get
attorney's fees for this. So it's very important to know

(01:25:58):
this type of information. I once was sued by a
snowmobile dealer in Oregon or Washington, and I had made
some opinions, and I was literally sued. They wanted me
to come to California. All that we got it dismissed

(01:26:19):
and got attorney's fees under anti slap legislation in California,
I mean in Oregon wherever. That was Marco Bendinelli attorney
at laws with US Marco. There's two problems I see
here with a lawsuit against Gary, except Gary still has
to face it. One. Gary is saying I simply did

(01:26:40):
not make the comments online. They have me mistaken for
someone else who used an old email of mine.

Speaker 3 (01:26:47):
I've never had dealings with this.

Speaker 4 (01:26:49):
Texas exploration company. I make thirty thousand dollars a year.
I don't own anything, and they're looking for millions of dollars,
not less than a million dollars in punitive damages plus
attorney's fees. He has to answer the lawsuit. Gary in

(01:27:10):
your filing.

Speaker 3 (01:27:11):
What did you say in your answer that you did
on your own?

Speaker 11 (01:27:16):
I told them.

Speaker 4 (01:27:20):
Let me grab that just in general, Gary, did you
say you did not make the comments?

Speaker 8 (01:27:28):
I've never posted anything about that company on any social media.
I have never posted anything on Reddit, Twitter, or x.
I don't have any documents or electronically stored information.

Speaker 4 (01:27:39):
Okay, it it Now a lawsuit has been filed. Did
they ask for any discovery yet?

Speaker 2 (01:27:50):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:27:51):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:27:51):
But then.

Speaker 8 (01:27:54):
In the lawsuit they bring it up that I would
have to produce it, but I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:27:58):
Have any okay, Marco Bendinelli. They're obviously, in my opinion,
doing a slap lawsuit, but against the wrong guy.

Speaker 3 (01:28:07):
So we got a double whammy here.

Speaker 4 (01:28:09):
He can probably get it dismissed for slap, but if
he does, it's almost like admitting you can't punish me
for my opinion. But he's also saying I didn't even
make the comments.

Speaker 3 (01:28:20):
What would you do for this poor guy?

Speaker 12 (01:28:23):
Well, a file, so obviously you know if this is
a Texas company, they got complete diversity among the parties.
So it is in federal court, I'm assuming, right.

Speaker 8 (01:28:38):
A civil court? Civil court?

Speaker 4 (01:28:41):
Yeah, well it's all civil court because it's not criminal.
But where is the venue? Does it say it has
one hundred and ninety federal? Yeah, but it's if it's federal,
I need to know the venue. Is it Denver federal?
If it's Denver, or where do you have to appear?

Speaker 8 (01:29:00):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:29:00):
No, it's via zoom, but it's just I understand that
where is the judge presiding from dellas Okay, Marco, go ahead.

Speaker 12 (01:29:12):
They filed and cracks. So you know, one of the
issues that you know, maybe Gary could have called somebody
is that, you know, you want to do emotion to
the Smiths. And when there is a compaint filed, an

(01:29:32):
alternative to filing an answer to the lawsuit is fillowing
a twelve B motion emotion to the Smiths. And you know,
you have twenty one days to do that. And obviously
Gary fout an answer a set of emotion to the Smiths,
so he's probably that that's not available to him right now,

(01:29:56):
but he can probably do a you know, emotion for
summary judgment. But you know, but then there's gonna be
prior to that, there's gonna be something called mandatory disclosures,
which means they have to disclose all the information that
they have to support their claim. Since he since he

(01:30:18):
passed the timeline to do a motion to dismiss, I
would wait until I got their disclosures and then file
it using their own documents against them that they disclose.

Speaker 4 (01:30:32):
Gary, I mean, Marco will he he doesn't have to
ask for disclosures it's automatic.

Speaker 12 (01:30:40):
It's self executing, pursue that Federal rule of Procedure twenty six.

Speaker 3 (01:30:45):
So no, okay, that's for it.

Speaker 12 (01:30:48):
It's a self executing requirement.

Speaker 4 (01:30:51):
So when he gets disclosures, he should call an attorney
and try to make a motion to dismiss.

Speaker 12 (01:30:58):
Yeah, and then you know, well a summary judgment, because most.

Speaker 17 (01:31:02):
Summary judgment okay, you know, unless you know you can
always ask you now now, but you're assuming Marco that
there will be no conflict, I mean that it's going
to be such a slam done case he can get
a summary.

Speaker 4 (01:31:16):
Aren't summary judgments usually granted only when they are obviously
far from the burden of proof?

Speaker 12 (01:31:24):
Yeah, I mean, there's got to be no genuine issue
as to a material fact. And you know, so with
his motion for summary judgment, you know he can he
can include an APPI davit that he executes swearing to
certain facts, maybe confirmation that he no longer has that

(01:31:46):
email address and who knows how you're going to.

Speaker 15 (01:31:48):
Get that, but or that he just didn't do it.

Speaker 4 (01:31:51):
Don't they have to have some proof that he did it.

Speaker 12 (01:31:55):
Well, if it was related, but if they have a
colorable claim, you know, because it was an email address
that he once owned. You know, that's probably enough for
at least a colorable claim to go forward. So that's
I think that's the big issue for Gary is that
he has to show that he doesn't have that email

(01:32:16):
address that's not his.

Speaker 3 (01:32:17):
How do you prove a negative like that?

Speaker 8 (01:32:20):
You know what?

Speaker 12 (01:32:20):
That's the question, that's the million dollar questions. And that
was a little ton on words, unintentional.

Speaker 4 (01:32:25):
But I love yes, right, But but I don't see
how he does this alone, Marco.

Speaker 12 (01:32:33):
Oh no, no, I don't know how he does a
pro sayes.

Speaker 4 (01:32:36):
You know.

Speaker 12 (01:32:36):
And and because he's gonna want he's also going to
want attorney fees, right, and so yeah, he's he probably
needs to retain counsole.

Speaker 3 (01:32:49):
What's that? Okay?

Speaker 4 (01:32:50):
Well, well, will counsel represent him on the off chance
they get attorney fees? Because this slap lawsuit? Marco, can
you have it both ways? Denying you did it and
then also asking for anti slap to dismiss it?

Speaker 12 (01:33:06):
Well, you know what, Tom, I was listening to your
description about anti slap law or anti slap legislation. You know,
I'm a civil trial lawyer. I do trucking cases. In
short's bad faith, motorcycles.

Speaker 13 (01:33:19):
Car accidents.

Speaker 15 (01:33:20):
You know, I'm not.

Speaker 12 (01:33:21):
That's not really my area of expertise. Yeah, so I
don't know about that particular area, but procedurally I would
I would bet that I'm right on what his next
moves are.

Speaker 4 (01:33:34):
Okay, good, good, You know I do know an attorney
I can refer to you, Gary, Gary, you're gonna have
to retain account of an attorney, even if you're arranged
for monthly payments. And this attorney, by the way, let
me explain this to you. And I say this so
you don't hear anything differently. In every single case he's

(01:33:57):
represented me in where people sued me for similar things
like you, Gary, except instead of.

Speaker 3 (01:34:03):
Being online, it was on my radio show.

Speaker 4 (01:34:07):
In every single case, we either won or got dismissed,
and we got attorney's fees.

Speaker 3 (01:34:15):
Now that's a gamble.

Speaker 4 (01:34:17):
I'm not guaranteeing anything, but you need counsel, and he
specifically knows about media stuff, whereas, like you said, Marco,
that's not his wheelhouse. But you're going to need counsel, Gary,
and I want you to call this attorney as soon
as possible, and I'm going to give you that information

(01:34:38):
off the air. Okay, okay, Marco Bendinelli won eight hundred
attorney Thanks for being on.

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the scammer said he won mega millions.

Speaker 3 (01:35:38):
They have to meet him at his bank, so on
and so forth.

Speaker 4 (01:35:41):
Hit.

Speaker 3 (01:35:41):
The guy's name is Rick. What did you find out?

Speaker 8 (01:35:43):
U D?

Speaker 4 (01:35:46):
Tom?

Speaker 2 (01:35:46):
I just spoke with our with our caller and he called.
When he called the scammer named Peter the scammer and said, Hey,
where are you I mean, I thought you were coming
over at eleven thirty with your two FBI agents to
deliver to check and my new Mercedes. The scammer says,
Oh my gosh, yout I going to believe what happened.
We just had another winner in Colorado and we have

(01:36:07):
to go over there to deliver the prize. So we're
going to contact you again to reschedule our meeting with you.

Speaker 3 (01:36:15):
Oh damn, I own myn Now I own Mark Liquor?

Speaker 8 (01:36:20):
What about mean?

Speaker 2 (01:36:22):
And so, so the caller and I agreed that he's
going to reschedule it did any day, anytime. He just
needs to give me one day notice. And once he
gets it rescheduled, the caller and I are going to
go to the bank and meets with the scammers.

Speaker 4 (01:36:40):
And okay, so the scammer, the scammer actually called it off.

Speaker 2 (01:36:47):
A scammer is the one who called it off because
he had another grand price to deliver in Colorado.

Speaker 4 (01:36:53):
Do you think, okay, do I technically owe Mark for
this bet?

Speaker 8 (01:36:57):
Or is it?

Speaker 7 (01:36:58):
Yeh?

Speaker 4 (01:36:58):
Should we?

Speaker 5 (01:36:59):
Should you do? We can always go double or nothing,
that he will show up at the bank at the
next one.

Speaker 2 (01:37:06):
Yeah, I'll go and the.

Speaker 4 (01:37:08):
One after that I'll go ahead and give you, see Mark, Mark,
why would a scammer waste his time if he wants
to get money, if he's not going to show.

Speaker 5 (01:37:16):
Up, Why would a scammer show up to someone's house
where he could get his head blown off?

Speaker 8 (01:37:23):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:37:23):
No, the whole thing sounds weird to me. All right,
So here's the bottom line. This scammer was supposed to
go over to this Ricky's house. Rick since got it.
When Rick called him, the guy said, no, I can't
make it today. We have another prize to deliver. We'll
have to reschedule. Mark had always said he's not going

(01:37:43):
to show up anyway. But here was my reasoning. Okay,
that the guy wants money. He wants to get this
guy over to his bank to get the money. So
if he doesn't show up, but why is he wasting
his time to say he's gonna be there.

Speaker 3 (01:38:01):
That's the part I don't why.

Speaker 2 (01:38:04):
Oh I can answer that he needs to print out
one of those comically large checks like the publisher's clearinghouse uses,
to bring that to the meeting and deliver that in
the callers brand new Mercedes.

Speaker 4 (01:38:19):
Oh Man, I just don't understand why a scammer. Why
would a scammer waste his time to get someone to
agree to a meeting and then not show up.

Speaker 3 (01:38:29):
I mean, that's the part that puzzles me. That's the
only part that puzzles me. So anyway, thank you, d
we'll follow this up.

Speaker 4 (01:38:38):
Guess who's on the line. I'm going to give his
theme song, bring him up? True.

Speaker 3 (01:38:51):
Yes, we're running out of time, but I wanted to
get you up. What's going on today?

Speaker 20 (01:38:56):
Im your idea? We made an event about five months
ago two hundred dollars and you lost to bet. I
still haven't seen my money.

Speaker 3 (01:39:05):
What bet is this? What bet did we make?

Speaker 20 (01:39:08):
You said that my two cases were worth pennies and nickels? Right,
you said you wanted bet. I said okay, and you
said how much? I said two hundreds?

Speaker 3 (01:39:18):
Okay, So tell me why they're not. Did you get
settled on them?

Speaker 10 (01:39:25):
Yes?

Speaker 20 (01:39:25):
One of the cases gave me twenty five thousand dollars
tax free in my pocket.

Speaker 3 (01:39:30):
Which one was that.

Speaker 20 (01:39:33):
After lawyers and doc?

Speaker 3 (01:39:35):
Which one was that?

Speaker 8 (01:39:36):
Drew?

Speaker 3 (01:39:36):
Which case paid you twenty five grand?

Speaker 20 (01:39:41):
Drew Bradford versus I think it was New Jersey manufacturers
call it?

Speaker 4 (01:39:48):
And what was it for.

Speaker 3 (01:39:51):
What lawsuit was this of the man of the many
many lawsuits you do to live because you live off
of people? What one was this? Tell me which one?

Speaker 4 (01:39:59):
This was.

Speaker 20 (01:40:01):
All the people New Jersey manufacturers, not people.

Speaker 4 (01:40:05):
But tell me what the lawsuit was about. Hold on,
I need details. Okay, I'm not just gonna have you
call up and say you collected money.

Speaker 3 (01:40:14):
We got more right after this, go.

Speaker 4 (01:40:20):
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choose Frank durand the real estate Man dot com to
list your home with Remax Alliance three oh three nine
two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino here three
three seven to one three talk three or three seven
one three eight two five five. So Drew said, Hey, Tom,

(01:41:07):
you bet me that my cases weren't worth anything, and
you owe me money. So he said, he got twenty
five grand from a case and the case I was
talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:41:20):
There were two cases. One was he walked into the
back of a tailgate. You remember that March.

Speaker 5 (01:41:26):
Yeah, he walked into the back of the tailgate and
sued the tailgate.

Speaker 16 (01:41:30):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (01:41:32):
He thought that was the one where he wanted to
sue home depot because they wouldn't install his window air
conditioner when he purchased it.

Speaker 3 (01:41:40):
And he almost I think that was the second one.

Speaker 4 (01:41:43):
Anyway, he's claiming, he's claiming he just came into twenty
five grand.

Speaker 3 (01:41:48):
So I just want to ask you some questions, Drew.
When did you get the twenty five grand?

Speaker 20 (01:41:54):
Where did I get it?

Speaker 4 (01:41:56):
When did you get it?

Speaker 6 (01:41:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 20 (01:41:59):
About two months?

Speaker 4 (01:42:00):
Oh, and who paid?

Speaker 20 (01:42:02):
You might have to look exactly on the paper it's
in the trastom.

Speaker 4 (01:42:08):
What lawsuit? What is it?

Speaker 3 (01:42:09):
What lawsuit was it in connection with?

Speaker 20 (01:42:13):
Hey, you make fun of my lawsuits? He would have
done this?

Speaker 3 (01:42:16):
What lawsuit was it in connection with.

Speaker 20 (01:42:20):
I'm trying to tell you she'd be client. I was
go ahead, tell me hi way with effect. And this
guy came flying out of nowhere and he rear ended me.
What should I do?

Speaker 4 (01:42:32):
Just don't do nothing, Drew Drew that wasn't the cases
I was saying were worth pennies, So I'm not giving
you two hundred dollars for that. I will say this,
You're a leech. You're a leech on society. That's what
you are. You're a scumbag. You know what. I'm tired.
I'm tired of treating you with kid gloves. You are

(01:42:55):
a leech on society. You make your living suing people
with ree ridiculous lawsuits. You absolutely suck and I never
want you calling this show again. You are a leach,
a scumbag, your pond scum, that's what you are. Get
the hell off and don't ever call yourself a Christian.

(01:43:15):
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(01:44:05):
run as fast as we can.

Speaker 1 (01:44:08):
Shoot is gonna help?

Speaker 14 (01:44:10):
Come man, This is the Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martino, Welcome,
Welcome my friends to the only show. But it's kind
as you know.

Speaker 5 (01:44:21):
We're here to solve problems, answer questions, take your complaints.
We got lines open. I'd love to hear from you.
The phone number is so simple, three oh three seven
one three eight two five five three oh three Martino,
you can call right now. We had a little bit
of an exciting ending to the Last Hours show. Tom
finally finally lost it on Drew. For people newer to

(01:44:43):
the show that don't exactly know what happened and why
it happened. Drew has been calling this show for so
many years I I couldn't even tell you, probably thirty years.
And Drew has sued more people, are at least threatened
to sue more people than pretty much anybody that is
ever called in before. There has been some successful lawsuits

(01:45:06):
brought by Drew where he has lined his pockets over
the years, but he also has other ones that are
absolutely absurd. I'll give you one idea. He ran into
a tailgate and sued the owner of the truck. And
I'm not talking about a moving vehicle. I mean a
vehicle that was just standing there. I'm not sure if
it was an automated tailgate like a hatchback that comes

(01:45:28):
up and down, and he bumped into it. But I
don't think that went anywhere. I don't think any attorney
would have taken that on contingency. We also had another
call I wanted to talk about a little bit. But
by the way, once again three O three seven to one,
three eight, two five five. If you've been ripped off
or taken advantage of, I want to hear from you
right now. Bad contractor bad anything. We'll get directly involved.

(01:45:52):
I got three deputies sitting around right now waiting to
jump on stuff. Three oh three Martino. We had something
Tom was re referring to as a slapsuit, a call
last hour that the guy said, Hey, I have got
an email from AOL that I haven't used in twenty
thirty years. This company in Texas is suing me for

(01:46:14):
putting up some derogatory information, probably some false information. There's
a big difference between false information and an opinion. I
can simply say, hey, I really think this company sucks.
There's nothing wrong with that, and them suing you for
that would be a little strange. It would eventually be
tossed out. But if you made the allegation this company

(01:46:36):
stole money from me and their CEO murdered somebody, that's
a little different. That would definitely be an issue.

Speaker 4 (01:46:44):
You can't do that.

Speaker 5 (01:46:46):
But when he brought up slapsuits, there was one that
used to go around all the time and I had
a company come after me for it, and I have
a good friend who got sued by a company for it.
And the bottom line was this, if you ever have
downloaded music that is copyrighted or a movie that is copyrighted,

(01:47:09):
they can actually see what IP address it is. Then
they can go to the company or the law firm
can go to the ISP and basically say who was this,
and they won't turn over your name, but they will
admit that they have the information. So what it becomes
is what's called a John Doe lawsuit, and a lot

(01:47:29):
of them fish out there for those. So let's say
someone in your household the old back in the day,
it was napster let's say you got a kid that
would download all the Metallica songs. In fact, Metallica went
after Napster big time, but I'm just using them as
an example. So you go download Master of Puppets or
one of their albums, and you do it illegally. You're

(01:47:49):
supposed to be paying for it, and you don't. You don't,
you don't. So what happens is the law the law
firm goes to your ISP because they know what they
know what IP address downloaded it, and they know who
owns the IP address. So let's say it's century Link.
They go to centrally Link and say, hey, we want

(01:48:10):
the information from this and they find out basically century
Link in general or Comcast whoever, is not going to
give that information at it first, but they know they
can get it with a subpoena. So what happens is
the ISP generally reaches out to you and will tell
you that. Then you'll get a letter, a threatening letter

(01:48:31):
from a lawsuit, and they either want you to settle
for say five ten thousand dollars, or they're going to
go forward with a federal lawsuit and sue you because
they can prove by IP address that that IP address
downloaded something that they weren't supposed to. Now there's a
couple flaws in this. My buddy ended up paying all

(01:48:52):
the money. His name was Dan. He actually it was
a similar circumstance, but nothing had to do with NAPA.
He went out and talked to an attorney and there
wasn't an attorney And this was fifteen years ago that
wanted less than fifteen thousand dollars just for a retainer.
Think about that. So you either got to cop up

(01:49:12):
fifteen thousand dollars for a retainer or pay off these
bloodsuckers ten grand for downloading a song. But you can
look at that however you want. You shouldn't have downloaded it.
But the argument is so simple. The argument if they
did take you to court, is well, okay, big deal,
it's the IP address.

Speaker 4 (01:49:30):
Well, I have Wi Fi.

Speaker 5 (01:49:32):
Anybody that drives by my house could have hopped on
my WiFi and it's open. There's a million different things
you could bring up as a defense. That would be
almost impossible, and I mean that virtually impossible for them
to prove. But you would have to defend yourself. Now
as slapsuit, as Tom was talking about is when somebody

(01:49:54):
like myself or Tom says on the air, so and
so's construction company, in our opinion, really sucks. These guys suck.
I would never use them. Blah blah blah blah blah. Well,
that's all opinion. You can have an opinion in a
review that you leave on Yelp or on Google. You
can have an opinion for everything, and they cannot sue you. Well,

(01:50:17):
they can sue you for anything, but you would have
a good defense with a slapsuit if something is in
your opinion derogatory information. As long as it's in an opinion,
there's no problem with And I want to go a
step further so people understand the courts changed something years ago,
not that many years ago, two to five years ago,

(01:50:39):
where if you signed a release with the company. Let's
say I got a problem with an automotive shop and
we come to the conclusion that they're going to refund
me the money. But in order for me to get
that check, I got to sign a release, and inside
of that release it actually states that I can't leave
any bad reviews about them. Well, they can't do that anymore.

(01:51:01):
They can put that in the release, but there's nothing
they can do to enforce that part of it, and
I don't have the I don't have the actual law
in front of me, but it basically makes it to
where you can leave a review even if you sign
a release and promise not to. So anybody out there
that signs something to get a refund, bigger or small,

(01:51:23):
and they think they'll get in trouble for leaving a review,
you simply cannot do that anymore. Now, what is this
update about, Sue? What is going on with you?

Speaker 4 (01:51:34):
And that would be your wife?

Speaker 5 (01:51:37):
Oh my god, Well put a Z on there so
I know it's her. It says sus. It literally says
sus What is your update?

Speaker 4 (01:51:48):
Babe? Babe?

Speaker 21 (01:51:49):
Remember a that called a month or a month and
a half ago. She was from the East Coast and
she was having problems with her direct Express payments hitting
her account in time, so it was causing her late fees.
She could afford her bills, but she couldn't afford her
late fees, yees she was getting like send her a
check from the show.

Speaker 5 (01:52:10):
Yeah, we sent her some money. She was getting like
whatever it was, she'd only be like five or six
days late when they wouldn't automatically reload her card. So
we sent her that amount of money to try to
get caught up.

Speaker 4 (01:52:24):
What happened, that's.

Speaker 21 (01:52:25):
Right, Well, went to the PO box today and had
a nice little thank you card from her, she said,
from us helping her with her late charges.

Speaker 4 (01:52:33):
She had time to get.

Speaker 21 (01:52:34):
Her direct expressed straightened out, opened up a new checking account,
and she is good to go, and she just wanted
to thank us.

Speaker 5 (01:52:41):
And I just wanted to let our listeners know, wow,
for someone to actually take the time and write us
a thank you letter. Generally, when we receive snail mail,
what is it, Suzanne?

Speaker 8 (01:52:52):
What is it?

Speaker 4 (01:52:53):
Kelly?

Speaker 5 (01:52:53):
It's freaking five pages of some loser in prison.

Speaker 21 (01:52:58):
Yep, that or somebody who doesn't have a computer, and
it's just used to the old fashioned way of communicating,
and a lot of times they don't need phone numbers
for us to get back to them.

Speaker 4 (01:53:08):
Mark, So yeah, yeah, that's usually what we get. So
this was a nice one.

Speaker 16 (01:53:12):
I just want I love it.

Speaker 5 (01:53:13):
I love a great update like that. And we didn't
send her that much. Would we send her fifty one
hundred bucks? And it basically changed her life. She was
facing late fees, very fixed income.

Speaker 21 (01:53:23):
We sent her fifty six dollars and I guess that
made all the difference in the world.

Speaker 5 (01:53:28):
Yeah, that's awesome, all right, three ozho three Martino, Thanks babe,
three zero three Martino three oh three seven one three
A two five five. Let's take a quick break. We'll
come back. You know, we were just talking about communication.
That was a great letter to get from somebody. You know,
when you go to complain, have you ever complained and
you go they don't even care. I don't care if

(01:53:50):
it's at and T or Frontier Airlines or anybody you
deal with. Certain people don't know how to complain. They
really don't. And I used to be one of them.
I've learned a lot about complaining and how to get
through to people.

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(01:54:25):
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Speaker 5 (01:54:40):
All right, three oh three seven one three eight two
five five three oh three Martino, we got lines open,
so listen complaining really quick, and then I guess Drew
has called back three times. I'll get that from Kelly
in a second.

Speaker 4 (01:54:54):
But yeah, we do have an update.

Speaker 5 (01:54:57):
Well, yeah, we'll go to that. I mean, it's like
I don't even care. True is just true?

Speaker 16 (01:55:03):
Is true?

Speaker 5 (01:55:03):
I mean, Drew is true. Like I don't know what
else to say about him. I'm a little surprised Tom
went off on him like that, but things happen. What
are you gonna do? The guy's been calling forever. He
was trying to shake down Martino for a couple hundred bucks,
which honestly, I thought was kind of funny.

Speaker 17 (01:55:21):
That.

Speaker 5 (01:55:22):
Yeah, and I wonder if I'll get my booze from
Tom after he lost that bet about the scammers showing
up to the bank.

Speaker 3 (01:55:30):
I mean, you went double or nothing on that one. Yeah,
you said double or nothing?

Speaker 5 (01:55:36):
Yeah, Well you think I'll see both bottles? Yeah, yeah,
I'd be shocked. I'd be shocked if I ever see him.
But we'll see. Complaining to a company, you know a
couple things. One, you gotta find the right way to complain.
You gotta find the right person. To walk into a
retail store and yell at a checker is going to
get you know where. You need to talk to the

(01:55:58):
store manager, someone and some sort of power. And then
you have to be clear about the problem. A lot
of people aren't that way. A lot of people tell
a story.

Speaker 3 (01:56:07):
I used to do that.

Speaker 5 (01:56:09):
It'd be like, well, this could have happened, or maybe
this or I felt this way. No one cares how
you feel. You got to go directly to the problem.
The problem was I got the wrong amount of change. Okay, fine,
they don't need to hear that. After you left the
grocery store with the wrong amount of change, you didn't
have enough money to pay for lunch. All that doesn't matter.
All that matters in that scenario is you left with

(01:56:32):
the wrong amount of money or whatever the problem is.
You got to be precise, be very clear and concise
when it comes to the problem, and focus on the
facts no matter what. Just focus on the facts.

Speaker 4 (01:56:46):
People.

Speaker 5 (01:56:47):
If you get onto a tangent. We receive so many
emails over the years where the could have and would
have and should haves just don't matter. There'll be three
or four pages, and honestly, whether it's an email or
snail mail, we'll spend well. Actually, once I see it's
more than one page, we generally just throw them out.

(01:57:09):
So I'm sorry for anybody who's sent us something like that,
but there's no clarification to anything.

Speaker 6 (01:57:15):
Then.

Speaker 5 (01:57:16):
One of the most important things people never do when
they complain. They never tell the company what the desired
resolution is. You never say this is what I want.
I want my eight bucks back, or I want a
refund for that movie ticket, or I want to return
the car, whatever it is. People never seem to do that.
People seem to complain and then sit around and wait

(01:57:39):
for the establishment to say, uh, oh well, let me
give you a refund, sir. It never works that way,
Dragon Kelly. When you guys complain and who else is
in their deputy Bow? I think Bow's air or dollars
there to you, guys, what's the last person you complained to.
You don't seem like you would complained to anybody, no offense,

(01:58:01):
but you seem like the kind of guy that might
just go a it's not worth complaining.

Speaker 7 (01:58:05):
But tell me, I'm trying to think it's been a
little while.

Speaker 5 (01:58:09):
I bet it has. Although you probably have complaints all
the time, why don't you complain? When's the last time
there's something that happened to you you should have complained about?
Or nothing happens to you? Oh, like stuff happens, so
there's just nothing at the at the top. The last

(01:58:29):
time you complained at a restaurant because you weren't happy,
either with the service or the quality of the food,
or a wrong order or anything, or has every time
you've been to a restaurant recently has been fine?

Speaker 11 (01:58:41):
No?

Speaker 7 (01:58:41):
I probably within the last month I complained to a restaurant.

Speaker 5 (01:58:45):
What was it about? And what did you ask for?
Did you ask for a new steak? Did you ask them?
Did you actually tell them what you wanted?

Speaker 16 (01:58:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:58:54):
I told them I didn't like my meal and they
offered to bring me something different.

Speaker 5 (01:59:00):
Glad to hear that. Oh, I don't know, I don't
know why. I kind of thought you're I don't want
to even say. You just don't come off very aggressive.
I mean, there's nothing wrong with that. It's just a different,
you know, a different personality.

Speaker 4 (01:59:13):
Than what I have.

Speaker 5 (01:59:14):
I probably go the opposite way. I probably get too loud.

Speaker 4 (01:59:17):
Huh.

Speaker 3 (01:59:19):
How about you, Kelly?

Speaker 5 (01:59:24):
Are you a complainer in general or daily basis?

Speaker 3 (01:59:26):
Are you you must be new here or something?

Speaker 11 (01:59:28):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:59:29):
Shut up? Well, I know she came out the equipment
in general, you know the phones, and.

Speaker 5 (01:59:35):
You know what, Dragon, you just said it.

Speaker 8 (01:59:37):
She is.

Speaker 5 (01:59:38):
She does complain all the time about everything. True, Okay,
there's nothing. That's just your personality. There's nothing wrong with you,
do you solt it.

Speaker 4 (01:59:46):
I don't even need to say anything. You don't.

Speaker 5 (01:59:49):
Dragon, I'd like to thank you for pointing that out.
And I don't think I've ever heard one day where
Kelly hasn't complained about something. Once again, that's just personality.
How about you, Dragon? Are you a complainer?

Speaker 22 (02:00:02):
I try not to be. But there was this mechanic
shop that really irked me the wrong way, didn't fix
the problem, still took all my money, but I complained
on their Facebook page and within hours they were like,
all right, here's your money back and take down the complaint.
I said sure, and then what they gave me my

(02:00:23):
money back, I took down the complaint and we were
all all good. Oh okay, a different shop to get
whatever it was fixed though, So it was a little blackmail, Yeah,
a little bit. That's a good way to actually do things,
and I'm glad they parted that way.

Speaker 5 (02:00:35):
Have you ever left a review? Anybody out there? Has
anybody ever left a review and then the owner comes
back to you or the manager and just rips you one.
We had a guy call and he basically complained I
think it was automotive work of something. The shop owner
came back on and said, it's people like you that

(02:00:58):
run small businesses. At a business this, you're a loser.
I'd love to come to your job and tell everybody
there that you suck. It was actually quite comical because
when he called in, we pulled up the actual Google
review and ironically, the guy, the owner of the shop,
did it to everybody, every single person that had any

(02:01:20):
kind of complaint on his company, even a three star
review like oh the service could have been a little better,
or it took him a while to call me back.
He would just rip into him like I've never seen before.
It was almost funny. All right, what is this with
Frank Duran? We got don what's going on with you?

(02:01:40):
Good afternoon, Nice to turn you guys, nice hearing you.

Speaker 23 (02:01:45):
I want to add to your money recovery. Oh boy,
I can break the four hundred thousand dollar ring.

Speaker 4 (02:01:55):
The fort.

Speaker 5 (02:01:55):
You're going to add four hundred thousand dollars onto our
three hundred million plus.

Speaker 23 (02:02:01):
Well, excuse me, I want to break the four the
four million dollars with three nights.

Speaker 5 (02:02:09):
I understand what you're saying.

Speaker 23 (02:02:10):
So what happened, Well, a few months ago with our
home assessment values, Frank came on and said he would
help us out if he could with our home value assessment.

Speaker 5 (02:02:25):
For our taxes, oh, for property insurance, he helped us
out as well.

Speaker 23 (02:02:31):
Yeah, so I just wanted to tell Okay, let me ask.

Speaker 5 (02:02:35):
You this don our valuation got dropped by probably one
hundred and fifty two hundred thousand. How much did he
help you guys with?

Speaker 23 (02:02:44):
Seventy six thousand?

Speaker 16 (02:02:45):
Nice?

Speaker 5 (02:02:47):
Nice?

Speaker 23 (02:02:49):
Nice, So that the seventy six thousand dollars that don't
have to pay additional tax on. So I just want
to let everyone know you guys work great. I've been
listening since Father John participating, and thank Tom and all
the staff, all the volunteers. That's all I can say.

(02:03:13):
Just thanks a lot to you guys. You guys have
helped the community more than you'll ever know.

Speaker 5 (02:03:19):
Well, we appreciate that, don and we appreciate you calling up.
Thank you for that three oh three seven one three
A two five five. He just made me think of
the Gallagher Amendment. You know, in nineteen eighty two, the
Gallagher Amendment was passed basically to make property tax not
a burden between residential and non residential properties. In fact,

(02:03:43):
it stipulated that residential properties would contribute forty five percent
and then commercial properties would be fifty five percent of
the total property tax revenue. Well, when the Denver liberals, yep,
all of them, you know who I'm talking about, and
for the people that voted for him, pay attention to this.

(02:04:03):
They snuck on the ballot basically to get rid of
the Gallagher Amendment. So if you really think what happened
to your property taxes, that's from those lion sacks. Yep,
they tricked you. They tricked you when they got rid
of the Gallagher Amendment. Because then what happened to your
property taxes? Everybody's went up, everybody's ours almost doubled. I

(02:04:24):
know people that they more than doubled because Now when
they do the evaluation on your house, they do it
a completely different way because they got rid of that amendment.
And that's what these lion sacks do, all of them.
They trick you when it comes to stuff. So you're
going to be seeing a lot of stuff on the
ballot in the next year because Colorado has broke as hell.

(02:04:47):
They're broke as hell and everything. I want you to
remember something, everything you read basically says this, is it
going to raise taxes or not? I don't care what
it's for, because whatever they say it's for, they lie.
Remember that they lie. They actually said by getting rid
of the Gallagher Amendment, property taxes would go down.

Speaker 3 (02:05:09):
Well they did.

Speaker 5 (02:05:10):
They went down for one year, then they skyrocketed. So
any time it says wants to raise taxes, you say no,
don't care what it's for, because whatever you give the
money for, they waste the money, They throw it out.
What did our Denver mayor want? What did he want

(02:05:30):
for homelessness? And he was going to fix it when
he was elected? Does it look fixed to you? What
did he throw one hundred million, two hundred million. The
only way to get rid of homeless is you literally
get rid of them. You send them somewhere else. You
can't put them in a hotel for three months and
then expect when they get out they're not going to
be homeless anymore. You guys are morons. You can't build

(02:05:52):
little tiny home communities and expect them to work with
the mentally ill. You get rid of the homeless.

Speaker 4 (02:05:59):
That's what they do.

Speaker 5 (02:06:00):
They get rid of the encampments if the homelessness is
and by the way, it's not experiencing homelessness. There's people
that have been homeless for twenty years. I think people
forget there's a big part of the homelessness society that
wants to be homeless.

Speaker 4 (02:06:16):
They do.

Speaker 5 (02:06:17):
You can call them vagabonds, you can call them whatever
you want. You know, back in the day, hoboes that
rode the rail. There's a lot of people, believe it
or not, they want to be homeless. There's nothing else
you're gonna do about it. And it drives me crazy.
But he made me think of the Gallagher Amendment on
property taxes. That's what happens when you vote for these people,

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I swear to God, that's what happens. Look at crime,
Think of crime. They've been trying to clean up Denver.
Now for how long? How much money have they thrown
on the damn sixteenth Street mall? Didn't someone get stabbed
down there again in the last ten days? Didn't they
just find a body somewhere down there? It's constant? Did

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no gang members running around? It must have been my
lion cheating eyes that saw the machine guns on every
news station across the country. Now they want to throw
one hundred billion or one hundred million, whatever it is,
back into downtown Denver without actually solving the problem. Putting
up pretty signs doesn't stop people from stabbing other people.

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The police stopped at more after this.

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Speaker 5 (02:08:02):
Two all right, three oh three seven one three eight
two five five three oh three Marchino man, I got
off on Denver. You know, when we first moved here,

(02:08:26):
there's probably a lot of people like us out there.
We moved here early nineties, or if you were born here.
It has changed so much. You know, downtown Denver, in
my opinion, is just not a good place anymore. Every
time you turn around there's something going on down there.
In fact, someone on YouTube said someone was either hung
or lynched and Aurora recently. I couldn't find anything about that,

(02:08:47):
but uh, it's just nuts. Every time you turn around,
the crime gets worse and worse. Then they throw money
at it. They just throw money at it left and right.
Thank God for Tabor. That's the tax pillar, taxpayer's bill
of rights we have here. Although I'm sure all the
Liberals are going to somehow get fooled and give that

(02:09:10):
money up for something. Who knows what they're going to
give it up for. Maybe pull US's bridge to nowhere,
maybe that's how that'll come back and get funded, Or
give it to old Mikey down there running Denver to
waste it doing something. I don't know what he would
possibly do. With it, but it's it's crazy, Razor.

Speaker 13 (02:09:29):
What is your question, Hey Mark, I've asked you this,
Hey Mark, I've asked you this before, and I didn't
know if you'd had.

Speaker 12 (02:09:35):
Any updated information.

Speaker 13 (02:09:37):
If that Vibrant Denver bond fails, do we get a.

Speaker 12 (02:09:41):
Tax decrease since they're paid out of a tax, out
of our property taxes?

Speaker 5 (02:09:46):
That loud I would think we would get I would
think we would get more money back through tabor. I
think that's the answer to that, Razor, But I don't.
I don't know how they do that, because it wouldn't
surprise me if somehow they kept it. I mean, it
just wouldn't.

Speaker 6 (02:10:00):
What is that?

Speaker 5 (02:10:00):
Isn't that like a billion dollar deal?

Speaker 4 (02:10:02):
That?

Speaker 8 (02:10:03):
Uh?

Speaker 16 (02:10:03):
Yeah, vibrants, that's exactly what it is.

Speaker 5 (02:10:06):
Yeah, it's a bit. Yeah, And once again, what's it
gonna go to? Okay, here's one of the things they say,
if I recall road maintenance. Okay, when's the last time
anybody has like driven in Colorado and actually said, wow,
that's a nice road. Anytime I leave this state, and
it doesn't matter if it's New Mexico or even Kansas,

(02:10:28):
you know, Wyoming, it's like driving on glass it's beautiful.
It's like the entire state Colorado. Yeah, they're they're gonna
put money into road maintenance.

Speaker 4 (02:10:39):
I call bs. They can't.

Speaker 5 (02:10:41):
They can't fill a pothole the size of a hot tub.

Speaker 4 (02:10:44):
That they're absolutely insane.

Speaker 12 (02:10:48):
Mark Their idea of road maintenance is more ballards and
bike lanes.

Speaker 5 (02:10:52):
Yeah, exactly. The bike lanes drive me insane. I mean really,
I don't even get that. You're you're absolutely right. Or
downtown it's those school lanes.

Speaker 4 (02:11:01):
I don't get it.

Speaker 5 (02:11:02):
So a billion dollars we're gonna vote, So instead of
putting money back in our own pocket, they want to
use bond money from bonds that have been paid off
going forward on a new bond, So basically money that
we would get back or not have to pay. To
Razors point, these liberals are going to vote, and I
can already tell you they're going to vote. Hopefully some
of them are listening right now and don't realize what

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they're voting on. But basically, you're taking money out of
your own pocket. Razor, I appreciate that call.

Speaker 19 (02:11:31):
But that's a.

Speaker 5 (02:11:32):
Billion dollar bond and that's gonna be on the ballot soon.
It's gonna be on the ballot. We'll see what the people,
the mighty fine folks of Denver do. And I think
people just don't understand a lot of times what they're
voting for. Wait till they try to get rid of
tabor again. Wait, people think, well, why would anybody vote

(02:11:53):
to get rid of something that literally lines everybody's pocket. Well,
they've already changed it quite a bit, and people allowed that.
The biggest one going back, Dad Gallagher, they snookered every
one of you, every single one of you. I knew
it was gonna happen. Martino knew what was gonna happen.
I had no idea property taxes would go up as

(02:12:14):
much as they did, but we all knew it. Oh,
you're gonna get a break this year. We'll give you
fifty percent off this year, but then we're gonna raise
your prices four hundred percent going forward, and you're gonna
like it.

Speaker 4 (02:12:28):
It's crazy.

Speaker 5 (02:12:29):
Please read when you vote, Please just look what you're
voting for. Even vote your own wallet, don't vote mine.
So unless you're a homeless, you shouldn't let the government
take money out of your pocket. You already pay so
many taxes it'll blow you away. How about a car.
You realize you buy a car, you pay seven eight

(02:12:52):
percent whatever it is, and then when you sell the car,
that person pays seven or eight percent sales tax. And
I'm not even getting into registration and license plates and
all that crap. And then every year they charge you
for that car. Then you sell that car, that new
person gets what they pay sales tax in ah in
ah in on. Because we're sheep. I'm not, but there's

(02:13:16):
sheep out there right now listening. Would you please read
what you're voting on? Please please read it. We'll be
right back.

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Speaker 5 (02:13:55):
Because I go crazy. You know, I was watching this
stuff on the news today, we're Trump took over Washington,
d C. Pretty interesting. It's our capital and it's not
run by the FEDS, and it's not a state. It's
a very curious place in the country. But I guess

(02:14:15):
he has thirty days to federalize it and try to
clean it up. And if you really listen to what
the mayor was saying, she's saying, Hey, we're going to
take all this help and try to do better. I
wish that would happen in Denver. Now there's people out
there going, well, it's not that bad. I don't know
if Denver says bad. I remember a couple of years
ago on Fox thirty one, our local Fox affiliate. I

(02:14:38):
remember we had a bigger murder rate within the last
two or three years in like Seattle and Chicago. I mean,
it was crazy, it was absolutely crazy, And I just
don't think people realize how bad the crime is, and
then they try to throw the money at it to
fix up the sixteenth Street mall. Why don't you give

(02:14:58):
it to the police so they can capture the bad
guys or clean up the homeless problem. Why not do
that with the money, then it'll revive itself. A new
sign isn't going to do anything. It's not going to
help me get downtown. The only reason I go downtown
if it's a ballgame, I mean that's it. Maybe a concert,

(02:15:19):
but that's it. I don't go eat downtown. I mean,
who wants to get stabbed on the sixteenth Street mall.
It wasn't that long ago this year where like every
time you turned around, someone was getting stabbed. I mean dragon.
If you had to guess how many people got stabbed
in Colorado in Denver this year, I mean it's a lot.

Speaker 22 (02:15:39):
I would say at least several dozen, if not more.

Speaker 10 (02:15:42):
Some dead.

Speaker 5 (02:15:42):
I remember some airline employee dead just going to work
or going to eat while she was in Denver overnight through.

Speaker 22 (02:15:51):
Decided to go to the sixteenth Street mall and well
didn't get to go anywhere else.

Speaker 5 (02:15:56):
It's crazy and it happens all the time. How about
enforcing the laws we have in the books? Are changing
the laws? This zero bell? What are you crazy? And
Colorado's not as bad as some other places. I was
reading about a guy, No, I'll tell you the what
it was Colorado, damnit it was, And if you saw
the guy's picture, it is the ugliest son of a
bit you've ever seen. It was on the news today

(02:16:18):
or yesterday, might have been on the national news. Apparently
it's a transgender or something along those lines. It's a
black dude, and he looks about as homeless as homeless
as ever look ever, and he looks psycho and apparently
because he has a mental illness, the fact that he
tries to kidnap children multiple times in our parts downtown,

(02:16:41):
they let them off. They have them on video running
up and snagging children. The guy looks like a zombie.

Speaker 4 (02:16:50):
You can't even believe it.

Speaker 5 (02:16:51):
You could literally put them in a zombie movie and
you would think you put makeup on him.

Speaker 4 (02:16:56):
It is the craziest thing you ever seen. And what
did the judges do?

Speaker 5 (02:17:00):
Oh, we're just gonna let him go because he's got
some problems problems. When do you define trying to steal
small children as a problem That that's like a psychosis,
that's like lock him up, throw away the key. I
don't care if he's mentally ill. You can't have people

(02:17:20):
running around stealing children. Just google wacko stealing children in
Denver and you'll see and read about it. You think
they show you that stuff on that MSNBC and that crap.
This is what we've become in Denver. We literally have
judges letting wackos, or or better yet, maybe the judges

(02:17:41):
hands are tied. I didn't do enough research. We might
have laws in Denver that the liberal morons passed to
where if you try to steal children and you're a
little nutty, they let you go. Please vote people, and
it's not even that time of year. Listen, we've got
a lot kicking tomorrow. I appreciate you listening to my rant.

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