The Troubleshooter 8-27-25

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yea ripped off news advice you don't have.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Come running just.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
As fast as you can.

Speaker 4 (00:15):
Shooter's gonna help coming man.

Speaker 5 (00:19):
This is the Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martine, Welcome my
friends to the only show of its kind. We are
here to solve problems, answer your questions, take complaints. We're
here to make your life a little bit better. You've
been ripped off, maybe a bad contractor maybe a bad
Cairo practor for that matter, a bad Dennist, a bad landlord,

(00:41):
some scumbag you want to tell us about. This is
a show for you. Three to ho three Martino. The
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We've got three open lines three zero three Martino, or
you can email us at help at troubleshooter dot com.
By the way, both those numbers work all the time. Now.

(01:02):
First of all, thoughts and prayers from everybody here out
to these poor parents. It looks like three dead, fourteen injured.
Catholic School, Minneapolis. Another school shooting. Apparently the guy couldn't
get into the building. You know, these reports are changing constantly,
But apparently he couldn't get in and the shooting was
from outside. People are saying fifty two one hundred shots.

(01:25):
It must have been an assault rifle. But what's amazing
is with that much fire, the injuries into deaths, I mean,
it's almost it's weird. It's not like you get immune
to it, but in a way you kind of do.

Speaker 6 (01:40):
You've just stated that he had three different weapons. He
had a shotgun, rifle, and a handgun.

Speaker 5 (01:45):
Oh my goodness, three weapons. Did they say how many
bullefire or no?

Speaker 6 (01:49):
I didn't hear that part.

Speaker 5 (01:50):
Now that's amazing. They were saying. They had witnesses saying
some of them thought it was a roofer, you know,
like an air nail GUNU pup. Just just crazy. So
we're gonna find out. All we know is the guy's dad.
He killed himself, right dragon. It sounded like he blew
his head off when he was done. So there's one
scumbag we don't got to deal with. And the only

(02:13):
thing they're saying about him is it's a mail and
he was wearing.

Speaker 6 (02:15):
All blacks, a male in his twenties.

Speaker 5 (02:18):
A mail in his twenties to pick on a little
middle school too. Actually it's worse than that. It was
like K through eight. I mean, that's basically, it's just crazy.
I mean, what do you say, our thoughts prayers out
to everybody there, and I'll let you guys know when
something changes. I mean, we have no idea what's going
on here. And two children it just put up are

(02:39):
in critical condition. So you have two that are deceased,
two in critical. But yet maybe the third person that
died was an adult. I don't know. There's so many
moving parts right now. Three zero three seven one three
A two five five three oh three Martino, Joe Keano
my money, Myway dot Com joins me. We're gonna be
talking about retirement on and off throughout the show. And

(03:01):
then a really good friend I have gotten to know,
and so is Suzanne over the time. In fact, his
kids are in hockey and he's a hockey dad, which
is kind of nuts. But it's Mitch Floria and he
owns the artofgranted dot com. You hear me talk about
Mitch on this show all the time. Mitch, you have

(03:23):
done so many projects in our house at this point,
it's crazy. You did. The recent one was our master bathroom.
And what'd you pick on that, Suzanne courts?

Speaker 7 (03:34):
It looks it is beautiful.

Speaker 5 (03:37):
It's stunning man. You did it around the tub, of course,
all the vanities. We have multiple vanities. And then you said,
let's do it on the window sills, so we got
rid of the wood and he did it. It's just
absolutely gorgeous. It looks perfect. And you've done part of
our kitchen, you've done our upstairs bathroom, you've done our
laundry room, and you've done our downstairs bathroom. In fact,

(03:57):
in the downstairs when you put cabinets in their gorgeous man,
So you did cabinets, the sink, you did that big
farm sink. Just great stuff. So we're any questions you
have on countertops, fabrication, installation, the countertops themselves, we're going
to be deep diving into that as well. Three zero
three Martino Dean, What is going on with you, mister Dean?

Speaker 8 (04:22):
I had a question.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
About that cell phone company.

Speaker 5 (04:24):
To us, Oh, the one I switched over to. Yeah, yeah,
we switched over from AT and T. I had AT
and T for my god ever in the day, and
I started going, why am I spending so much? While
I was watching TV? I was watching the news and
that guy Ryan Reynolds, and he talks about mint. So

(04:46):
I went to look at Mint, and I'm like, you
know what, I wonder what other ones are out there?
I never thought of that are just resellers. So I
did a deep dive and I looked at US Mobile,
US Cellular, Mint, I looked at so many different self
own companies in a two or three hour period because
I was done. I was done with AT and T.
We were paying roughly three hundred bucks, not including phones.

(05:10):
I mean we own the phones. We were paying about
three hundred bucks a month for four lines. And I
looked and did a deep dive, and I ended up
with US Mobile. I just went to their website. I
was making sure they're still doing this one deal. So
here's what we pay now, Yeah, two ninety nine. Listen

(05:30):
to this. In fact, now it's cheaper that pisses me off.
Now it's actually forty nine bucks cheaper that sucks. I
switched over like three weeks ago, so it's uh, hold
on here, I want to make sure.

Speaker 7 (05:43):
It's just stuff that keeps you up at night Mark.

Speaker 5 (05:45):
Wait wait, wait, though we had the buy one, get
one free, this is not the buy one, get one free.
So hold on. A second welcome annual, Premium annual Starter Okay,
so it's not the buy one, get one free, so
ours was actually cheaper, but it's still way cheaper than
anything out there, so premium unlimited. Listen to this people. Okay,

(06:08):
First of all, Susanna and I travel a lot. We
have a nice bus, and when Tom was feeling good,
now that he is again, we go on the road
and I do the show from the road. So hotspot
is very important to me. So this has unlimited data,
unlimited talk and text, unlimited hotspot. If you have a

(06:28):
smart watch like Suzanne does, it comes with the smart
watch plan. So if you have a little eSIM and
the smart watch, twenty gigabytes of international data, which I
don't care about we very rarely leave, and then free
network transfers and then multi network add on. Let me
tell you how cool this is, man. So first of all,

(06:49):
we chose dark Star, like what the hell's that it's at?
And t Ours is identical to what we had at
and t we chose dark Star. That's just what they
call it. They can't call it a T but they
also resell Verizon and they also resell T Mobile. If
you have a newer phone, you have what's called an
eSIM if you want to switch because all of a

(07:11):
sudden you're in an area where Verizon doesn't work and
you want to move to T Mobile or AT and T.
You hit the eSIM, the SIM manager on your iPhone
or on your Samsung, and bam, you're on the other network,
different phone number. I can hot swap phone numbers, I
can hot swap data. I can hot swap everything, so

(07:31):
you get unlimited data on multiple networks. If you want
to add a line, not transfer from one to another.
My phone in most newer iPhones you can have two
lines on the same phone. So my phone right now,
if I'm cruising down I twenty five and it's using
AT and T for data dan and AT and T sucks,

(07:53):
it automatically switches over to Verizon because I pay an
additional seven dollars a month for a Verizon so to
get to the bottom line for one year, if you
pay a year in advance, you get all that for
two hundred and ninety nine bucks. So for three hundred
bucks you get unlimited everything. You gotta poured a number
in though you got to bring a phone number over.

(08:15):
But it's incredible. If you're on AT and T and
switch it's like AT and T. If you want to
go to whatever they call Verizon, it's just like Verizon,
but it's all the same price, and you can add
that second line for seven or seven dollars and fifty
cents a month. Any other questions, Yeah, what was that
company called US Mobile dot Com not US Cellular. I

(08:38):
looked into them too. This is way better US Mobile
dot Com. God, I need to reach out to these
guys and charge them for that. They're not an advertiser.
That's ridiculous. I probably just sold a ton of those
for them. But I can honestly tell everybody out there,
whatever network you're on, when you pick it through US

(09:00):
Mobile dot Com, it's just like it. There's no difference.
It's the exact same thing. Where we had dead spots,
we still have dead spots. Where it was great, it's
still great. Everything's the identical. And then that backup one
is really cool. You got to get used to it,
because here's been times I've texted my kids on my
new Verizon number because I forgot to switch back and

(09:22):
they don't even know it's me because it's coming in
from a different phone number. But then it's really cool.
You hit one button, you're back to your other one.
It's really cool man. In fact, okay, I really do
need to get them as an endorsement because I truly
believe in this product to the point where it's incredible.
And then the price thranderd bucks. Now when Susanna and

(09:42):
I got it, and then I'll get off this topic.
When we got it, it was three hundred and forty
nine for the year, but it was buy one line,
get a second free, so you got two phone lines
for an entire year for three hundred and forty nine bucks.
They don't have that going on right now, but I
check back because they said it was ending like around

(10:04):
the tenth of this month, and I looked for a
friend of mine around the twentieth and they had the
buy one, get one free. But they don't have it now.
All right, listen, I'm gonna take this break. We're gonna
come back talk to Michael and Danielle. Got one line
open three zero three seven one three eight two five five.

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(11:43):
What's going on, man? How are you doing?

Speaker 10 (11:45):
I'm good?

Speaker 5 (11:45):
How you doing great? Jola's Air is our criminal defense attorney.
He's been an expert with the show for so many years.
It's crazy. Suzanne and I have known Joe at this
point for many, many years. In fact, we ran up
to you. I remember one time we ran into you
and break Ridge. No, actually I think we ran into
how did that go down? Joe? We ran into someone

(12:06):
that your sister, is that right?

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Oh, that's possible? Or my family, my cousins.

Speaker 5 (12:12):
Yeah, your cousins are someone That was kind of funny
how we just started talking and all of a sudden
they're like, are you talking about Joe Lazara. I was like, yeah,
why do you know him? And it turned out to
be a relative. But anyhow, listen, we had two calls yesterday.
One I think you might have answered, but I'm going
to bring Josh back up. Hey, Josh, you called up
and said I had a DUI. Now it's time to

(12:32):
get my interlock because I want to get my license back.
And there's three brands in Colorado. It seems that the
courts will approve and which one's better. They all don't
have the best reviews, and Joe, I thought you answered this.
What was the answer to that.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Well, I mean my preference is smart Start, but at
the same time, there's a lot of good Tony's what
I tell you to do. Yeah, they're Smart Start. There's
Life Savior and Guardian, and there's also Intoxic Loots.

Speaker 5 (13:03):
So what's the difference between these? Aren't they all the same?
You basically, when you start the car, you got to
blow into it. Actually tell us how they work these days.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah, so they're all installed and when you start your
car you have to blow into it, and then periodically
you'll have to blow into it as well. Now each
device is a little different. Some you have to hum into.
Some are better for people that have you know, low
long volume that have difficulty breathing. So you definitely want
to talk to each provider, and most of them, you know,

(13:35):
like most of my clients will get some type of benefit.
They'll usually get a free you know insallation, and a
lot of times they'll wave that first month or that
second month as well. But they all will do benefits
for you.

Speaker 5 (13:47):
Did say you said randomly? Asks you? I mean, like seriously,
you're driving down Parker Road, or I twenty five and
it's like time to blow into it. Is that how
it works?

Speaker 6 (13:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Scary, Yes, that's true.

Speaker 5 (13:58):
You know when I had our good years, they were
truly a pain in the ass. Man. You know, you
don't want and can't have liability reasons. People up in
the air on lifts when you're working on their car,
and there was times where there was an interlock, they
would start it. We would pull it in and we're
trying to diagnose it up under the car and basically

(14:19):
the stupid thing starts going off, so you got to
drop it down. You got to do everything. Then I learned,
after going through that many times in Montbello that I
could actually call the company and tell them we had
the car and we were working on it, Joe, and
they would make it so it wouldn't do that. But
I didn't learn that till after a year.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Right, there are some bypass codes for mechanics just for
that situation.

Speaker 5 (14:42):
Yeah, So, Josh, do you have any other questions while
we have Joe on then Joe, I got another one
for you afterwards.

Speaker 6 (14:49):
Uh, sir, Oh if you.

Speaker 5 (14:54):
Specific, Hey, Josh, you got to get that connection a
little better.

Speaker 11 (14:58):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (14:58):
It sounds like you're going through ice and howers start over. Okay,
can you hear it better now? Yes? There? Okay, Joe.
Is there a specific reason on why you prefer Smart Start?

Speaker 2 (15:13):
The reason I like it is when people do have fails,
they see that they have less fails and the machines
on all three of these are improving drastically every year.
But the ones that do have fails, a smart Start
seems to have the best records that they provide to
d m B and the best way to attack a case.
It's more organized. That's why I like it just on

(15:36):
the fails. But you know I always you got.

Speaker 5 (15:40):
To elaborate on that show. What does that mean on
the fails? Like if you blow into it and fail?

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Yeah, so if you blow into it and you have
more than point zero two percent alcohol, if it's above that,
you'll start failing. So a lot of times what people
will do is they might have some alcohol the night
before they get up or that morning they go to drive.
They're a pubs that point got there like a point
zero three point zero four, and the car will not start.

(16:08):
Even though you're below the legal limit. It has a
very low stenter, so the car will not start. If
you walk away, that is a fail.

Speaker 5 (16:15):
Got it?

Speaker 2 (16:16):
So that's one where if you're blowing into it and
you have alcohol, it's a fail. So if you get
three fails and lockouts within a year, they could extend
that for an additional year.

Speaker 5 (16:27):
Got it? And you're saying the easiest one to deal
with on fails if there are fails is that company? Right, Josh?

Speaker 2 (16:36):
What else they've all improve?

Speaker 12 (16:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (16:39):
I guess do you know anything about the customer service?

Speaker 8 (16:43):
You know?

Speaker 2 (16:43):
I know when you have, let's say a lockout.

Speaker 5 (16:46):
You're coming in and out again, Josh, you gotta stay still, bro.

Speaker 13 (16:52):
So I know that there are such things as faulty lockouts,
and I was curious to know if you knew anything
about the customers nervis side of a smart start.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
I've heard mixed stories from different clients, And you know,
I always tell people call the eight hundred number the
main corporation because a lot of the installers aren't very helpful.
So I always tell people go to a larger, more
experienced install location because they do it more often than not,

(17:24):
so they're better at it, and as long as they
have a good name brand, they're usually going to back
up their product and back up their work. That's what
I tell people to do. Don't go to some a
little rink eating place, go to a full service, larger.

Speaker 5 (17:37):
Facility anything else. Josh, No, that's it. I'm sorry about
the connection. No, no, you're you were good once you
quit juggling your phone. But no, you're all good. Man. Hey,
we do appreciate that, Josh. And hopefully that helps you
out and you make the right decision. Joe, real real quick.
I'm not going to take Danielle. I'm gonna have to
hang you over the break. But I want to ask
you about this. So generally people are on them for

(17:59):
one year? Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Here's what it can be longer. So on a first offense,
if you're above a point zero A, but below a
point one five zero, it's a nine month interlock. If
it's a second offense, or it's a refusal, it's a
two year interlock.

Speaker 5 (18:18):
Now let me ask you this logic would say, if
someone's driving down the road with a friend and the
friend hasn't been drinking or a spouse or anything, I mean,
can they blow into it? Is there anything that catches
that kind of you know, going around the red tape
I mean, is there anything that makes that not happen?

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Well, there are cameras to capture your photo when you're blowing.

Speaker 5 (18:43):
Oh wow.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah, I'm assuming if there's a will and a desire
to avoid it, it can be done.

Speaker 5 (18:50):
Yeah, of course, like anything. How about do they work
on Tesla's electric vehicles?

Speaker 6 (18:55):
Do you know?

Speaker 10 (18:56):
They do?

Speaker 5 (18:57):
So?

Speaker 2 (18:57):
They are getting much better. And that's why I always
tell people go to somebody that installs interlocks all the time.

Speaker 5 (19:05):
And are they all about this same price those three
or four different companies? And how much is that? I mean,
what do people pay? I assume it's like a monthly subscription.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Yeah, it's a monthly fee usually, you know, and this
is a guess from my part, is somewhere between seventy
eighty to one hundred and twenty dollars per month every month.
And so a lot of times you have to pay
for the install pay for your downloads or monthly service fee.

Speaker 14 (19:29):
And it does get expensive.

Speaker 5 (19:30):
Hey, all in all, what does a DUI costs someone?
In general? So let's say they hire an attorney and
just an average. It doesn't have to be your cost.
You might be lower or higher whatever I'm not I'm
saying on average, so you have the fines, let's say
first defense, you have the fines, you have this contraption
that goes into your car. Just all in all, I've

(19:52):
heard the number ten thousand dollars. Is that about right?

Speaker 10 (19:56):
Easy?

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Ten thousand dollars is easy, sometimes more the real cost obviously,
the classes, probation, the monitor sobriety, the increased insurance on
your vehicle, oh yeah, the interlock, all of that.

Speaker 5 (20:09):
All that, yeah, because your insurance all of a sudden,
you need that special insurance. I've talked to Brian Burns
a compass insurance over the year SR twenty two.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
SR twenty two yep, which is an endorsement to your insurance.

Speaker 5 (20:22):
Yeah, which basically has the insurance company constantly in contact
with the state saying you have insurance basically right right,
So if.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
You don't pay, then notifying DMV DMV cancels your license.
So it's a way to ensure that you to make
sure that you have insurance.

Speaker 5 (20:38):
Well, all right, so listen, Joe, I'm hoping you can
hang because Danielle's got a problem. She called in yesterday
and she can't get a job. She took a plea
deal on a domestic violence and basically, of course when
I'm talking to her, it was really the boyfriend or husband.
She didn't do anything, but her attorney said she needs
to take the plea deal for the best deal, and

(21:00):
she took what she thought or what is a misdemeanor
and it's appearing on some background checks through these third
parties when she goes in interviews that she's got a felony,
and we'll get a little more information from her. But
I'm hoping you can help her, uh with that. But
on the other part is if she does have that,

(21:20):
how do you get something off your record? Can she
is expungent or how does that work?

Speaker 8 (21:25):
That?

Speaker 5 (21:26):
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Speaker 5 (22:14):
All right, three oh three seven one three eight two
five five three oh three Martino, we got two lines open,
uh three zero three. Any questions you have, Martino or
help at troubleshooter dot com. Now, Joe, I want to
go on to this second question. I appreciate you staying
with us. So Danielle called yesterday and I'm gonna have
her kind of asked the question. But Danielle, you had

(22:34):
a you you got in trouble, you took a plea deal,
and apparently it was a misdemeanor. But you're saying when
you go to job interviews, it's coming up is a felony?
Is that correct?

Speaker 15 (22:47):
Yes, it is correct, but it's coming up as a
felony misdemeanor. So I don't understand.

Speaker 5 (22:51):
First of all, I don't understand either, because I've never
heard of that a felony misdemeanor. Joe, is that even
a real thing? That sounds like an apple and an orange?

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Right, it's not a real thing? Was she initially charged
with the felony and pled it down.

Speaker 15 (23:07):
No, So what happened was I was pleading guilty to
breaking a civil protection order, which I was told was
a misdemeanor because they couldn't prove domestic violence against me
or anything like that because I didn't do anything. I
was the one who actually called nine one one because

(23:27):
I thought he was going to throw me down the stairs.

Speaker 5 (23:29):
Yeah, but Danielle, you told me you took a plea deal.

Speaker 15 (23:33):
Yes, because they told me that. The district attorney said
that he was not going to dismiss the case at all,
and he said, you get to choose what you're going
to plead guilty to. So my public defender said that
the breaking a civil protection order was like the smallest
charge that I can get, and that's why I pled

(23:54):
guilty to that because I did text him Joe.

Speaker 5 (23:58):
Generally, hold on, Danielle, what is that? What does that
generally carry?

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Usually with civil protection order, although it carries jail, it's
usually the one you know, if you have a choice,
he would take because it's usually just courk cass and find.
Once in a while they'll put you on probation, but
it's usually just cork coss and finds and they close
the case.

Speaker 5 (24:19):
Danielle, how do you know what's on your criminal record?
Have you checked Colorado courts? Have you actually, I mean,
do you even know?

Speaker 16 (24:27):
Yes?

Speaker 15 (24:27):
I have on talked to the courts. This has been
going on for a year. I haven't been able to
find a job, and it.

Speaker 5 (24:34):
Shed light on it. What do they tell you?

Speaker 15 (24:37):
So they tell me to keep coming to go in
and talk to them and go to the court and
keep you know, I try to sell my record. And
because it was too early.

Speaker 5 (24:47):
Okay, stop stop right there. That's wait, that's an entirely
different thing. Regardless if it's a felony or misdemeanor, Joe,
is it even possible under most circumstances to seal a
record like that?

Speaker 2 (25:00):
They're making it easier and they're creating more and more exceptions. So,
especially if it's a deferred judgment or deferred prosecution. Absolutely,
that's easy. And I'm that might be what she's talking
about that certain timeframe. Is she's still on probation.

Speaker 15 (25:15):
I'm not on probation. Actually the judge didn't. The judge
was actually on my site and he doesn't understand why
I was arrested and not my ex. The judge actually
said I was the victim.

Speaker 5 (25:28):
But Danielle, that's all Dan Yelle, that's that's done and
over in the past. Soon as you took the plea deal.
That doesn't matter. What we're talking about now is you're
saying there is a felony. You're saying there's a felony
on your record and there shouldn't be. That's an entirely
different problem. Joe. If we took her at face value,

(25:48):
what do you do? Or better yet, what can we
do to see what's actually on her record?

Speaker 16 (25:54):
So the first thing.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
I would tell her is you could go to CBI
card of your own investigations, CBI records, check what are
your criminal background number one, see what's actually on your record.
If it's showing a Balani, then you need to get
a certified order showing what you pled to from the
criminal case and send that to DMB or send that

(26:17):
to CBI and ask if they correct their record.

Speaker 15 (26:22):
Well, and I've done all that, and I've been doing
that for the son.

Speaker 5 (26:26):
I want you to pull out hold on, Danielle, pull
out that report, and I want you to send it
to us. I want to see your CBI report and
I'll send it over to Joe. So can you send
that to us since you did it?

Speaker 10 (26:37):
Absolutely?

Speaker 5 (26:37):
Okay, help it troubleshooter dot com. And then I will
ask Joe where she should send it and what she
should do right after he looks at it. Joe, is
that fair enough?

Speaker 6 (26:48):
Absolutely?

Speaker 12 (26:49):
Well, we'll try and help her.

Speaker 5 (26:50):
That would be great, So I would absolutely love that.
I'm going to put you on hold.

Speaker 7 (26:54):
Now.

Speaker 5 (26:54):
We have a game plan, Danielle. We're going to help
you out. So get that over to us. Kelly, make
sure she has our email helping troubleshooter dot com because
she already got her CBI report. Now, Joe. Last question
totally separate. I was watching nine News or Fox News
or something local, and it was over the weekend, and
they set up a DUI checkpoint coming out of I

(27:17):
believe Blackhawk or Central City, one of the gambling towns.
I don't know where they set it up. I don't
know if it was on that road to Golden or
I seventy. I doubt I seventy. But I had not
seen a DUI checkpoint on the news forever, and you
would you would actually think people coming out of a
casino would probably have a good chance of having some
alcohol in their system. So what are the rules on checkpoints?

(27:41):
And if it is on that windy road between Golden
and Central City you've told us in the past, they
have to give you an opportunity and warn you at
checkpoints coming up and give you an opportunity to avoid it.
But on a windy road like that, and I'm not
saying it was on there, but a road like that,
can they even if there's nowhere to turn, can they

(28:04):
do a checkpoint there? Tell us what you got.

Speaker 9 (28:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Generally they must give you an accent or opportunity to
avoid the checkpoint, so they would do it before one
of those major intersections on that windy road you're talking
about once, and they have to be very clear notices
checkpoint ahead. You have the opportunity necessarily say hey, turn
here if you want to avoid it, but it will
usually that notice will be before an opportunity to avoid

(28:31):
the checkpoint. If you do go through the checkpoint, they
will randomly stop so many cars. It's whether it's every
fifth car, every third car. They usually have that sequence.
But if they're stopping every car, hypothetically they're just going.

Speaker 5 (28:45):
To ask you questions.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
If they detect the alcohol or you admit to drinking,
then they move you to the next section.

Speaker 5 (28:51):
So if you're leaving, and I want people to understand this,
So if you're leaving, I don't care where it is,
a restaurant, a casino, and you add one beer, literally
one beer, Joe. If they said if you had anything,
a lot of people would say, yeah, I had one beer.
I mean, that's it. Most people can have one beer
and drive. Fine, you're under the legal limit. But that
does open you up right there, and then to that

(29:12):
secondary checkpoint where you're pulling over and they're doing whatever,
maybe searching the car because you admitted you had a drink.
Now is that all correct?

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yeah, once you admit or they detect in DISHA, they're
going to move you to that secondary station where they're
going to talk to you, investigate it more, ask you
more detailed questions. Perhaps maybe even have you do roadsides
or portable bread test.

Speaker 5 (29:35):
Yeah, that's that's crazy. Now you also told us on
a previous call. They have to post it, like on
social media that it's coming up or what was that about.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
Social media? Usually they'll post it and you'll see it
like if you follow park or Parker PD posts, there
are things on their websites all the time that hey,
they're going to run a checkpoint at this location and
they'll post it and you have advanced notice. But at
the same time, most people don't pay attention to that.

Speaker 5 (30:03):
Well you would think if someone is Yeah, most people
aren't going to have that on. I mean, unless you're
like some habitual person that just drinks and drives every day,
you're not going to have Parker or State patrol on
your phone looking every time you go out, looking where
checkpoints are. I mean, that'd be crazy. But I will
say this, Joe. If if they give you a place

(30:24):
to pull off, so you're going down Parker Roads, you're
at Lincoln and it says checkpoint coming up and you
can turn on Lincoln to avoid it, wouldn't wouldn't you
think Parker police are off of Lincoln watching people that
are trying to avoid the checkpoint then pulling them over.
I mean, I know they're not supposed to do that,
but wouldn't you think that's what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
I think a lot of departments sometimes will put officers
around that vicinity and if you commit a traffic offense,
or you give them a legal basis to pull you over.
They're going to pull you over because they know that's
what you're doing.

Speaker 5 (30:57):
I mean, of course, yeah, of course. Listen everybody out there,
if you ever need a criminal defense attorney, you're absolutely
crazy to do it on your own. You're just crazy.
If it's a DUI, I mean really, you're nuts. You
might lose your license, you might not even have the
option of an interlock. And Joe can help you out there.

(31:18):
And if you've been accused of any crime, I'm telling you,
this is a guy Joe. I appreciate you coming on
as always, man, and I mean it. We got to
get you into studio. I know you're in court all
the time, but it'd be a great show to have you.
And there's so many different things to talk about, because
whether people like it or not, generally most people at
some point find themselves in some kind of trouble. You

(31:39):
might not have done anything wrong, but you still need
advice from an attorney. And Joe, I do appreciate you
coming on all right, man, absolutely, I appreciate it. Thank you,
you got it. Three oh three four two nine sixty
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when you need them, maybe your spouse, your kids, anybody.
He's got it. He'll talk to you for free over
the phone. Three oh three four nine six two hundred.

(32:01):
Barbara's got an issue with a Burth certificate. I'm not
sure what that is. And then Tom's got a question.
We got two lines open three zero three. Martino will
be right back. Hold dight.

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Speaker 12 (32:49):
All right.

Speaker 5 (32:49):
Three oh three seven one three eight two five five.
Barbara sc got an issue with the Burth certificate. In fact,
I'm going to get an update from Suzanne on the
Texas kids that we couldn't get a birth certificate for
and then we got them involved with attorneys and other things.
So we've been down this road before. Barbara. I'm gonna
need a little more than one minute to deal with you, though,

(33:10):
so please hold tight. You'll be right after the break. Tom.
What's your question on checkpoints?

Speaker 2 (33:16):
I was order and I've been watching on Facebook where
they how far down you can legally roll your window
in the state of Colorado.

Speaker 5 (33:27):
I don't know. I don't know the answer to that.
My understanding is long as you can communicate with the officers,
show them the license. I'm not so sure you have
to roll it down whatsoever. But I Joe. I'm not
gonna call Joe back for that question. I wish I
still had him on. But what are they saying on Facebook?

Speaker 7 (33:43):
What?

Speaker 10 (33:44):
What on the tends on the officers?

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Some of them say two answers as they try.

Speaker 5 (33:52):
You know what, I'm going to try to look it up.
You hang tight. I'm going to drop you. We do
have lines open, but I'm going to try to look
it up or text Joe during the break. That's a
good question. Three oh three Martino. Three oh three, Martino, Barbara,
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(35:27):
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(35:50):
Now our three guests today, and Dmitri's really not a guest.
In fact, he's turning out to be pretty much a
co host. But what's amazing is all three of these guys,
and you guys, Susan pointed this out, all three of
you were born in other countries.

Speaker 12 (36:06):
Correct, we're all naturalized citizens.

Speaker 5 (36:08):
All naturalized citizens in a country. Joe Kiano, fifty years ago,
you came over, that's right, from Mexico City, and then
we looked up Mexico City. I think of Denver, and
people think of Denver is a big city. You think
of Los Angeles is a big city. You think of
New York is a big city, twenty three million people. Yeah,
that's a big city, huge, And I heard it wasn't

(36:33):
a great place to go. Now, only saying that because
we were talking about the airport with somebody. They said,
the airport is a complete mess. Don't go outside the airport.
What do you think of Mexico City in general? Because
I know you go back all the time, right, you know,
Mexico City is safe. It really is safe. It's a
safe place.

Speaker 17 (36:51):
But you have to, you know, just be careful, just
like just like any other big city. Right, Yeah, I
got you. Now, the airport, it's a beautiful airport. Really,
I mean, they have a brand new airport in Mexico City.

Speaker 8 (37:03):
Know that.

Speaker 5 (37:03):
Aw there's two airports in Mexico City. Wow, it's like
New York International Airport.

Speaker 6 (37:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (37:09):
So Mexico City has a beautiful architecture, the music, the people,
every food.

Speaker 5 (37:15):
I mean, it's just a wonderful, wonderful. So when you
came over and Barbara and Mike, I promised I'll get
right to you. But I'm infatuated by this. When when
you came over fifty years ago, you well, actually, did
you come with your parents or no? No, I came
with my sister. So you came with your sister when
you were on a school visa? How did you get
into the country. I was a student, a student that's right.

(37:36):
And then what was your path to citizenship? How did
that look? Fifty years?

Speaker 17 (37:40):
I went into a legal resident, okay, and it took
some time.

Speaker 5 (37:45):
Yeah, and then I joined the United States Air Force.
Residents basically your green card, right, so you come over
on a visa for school, right, then you get a
green card. So, and the green card means you can work.

Speaker 17 (37:57):
I can work, I can do anything you want that
A citizen can.

Speaker 5 (38:02):
Vote voting except vote. Then what happens? Then you get
Then you joined.

Speaker 17 (38:06):
The Georgia Air Force during the Vietnam Era. Nice, and
I became a citizen.

Speaker 5 (38:12):
So when you joined the air Force back then, that
was a ticket to full blown citizenship, voting everything. It
was wartime, you know, it was the Vietnam Era. Wow,
how many years were you in for? Well, thanks for
your service, jank you. I mean I knew you were
in the Air Force. I didn't realize that. How you
became a citizen. And then Deputy Dmitri, how old were

(38:32):
you and where did you come over from?

Speaker 8 (38:34):
So?

Speaker 12 (38:34):
I came from Russia. Back then it was called the
Soviet Union. So I came here at the age of
eleven or twelve. Yeah, and immediately applied for citizenship. It
took It was a five year process, and you.

Speaker 5 (38:45):
Were telling me you had to have medical records. They
gave you shots. They had three interviews.

Speaker 12 (38:50):
Before they even let me into the United States or
even I was still living in Western Europe, between Russia
and America. I wasn't allowed in the United States until
I had literally three medical exams, including vision, dental hearing.
I had to provide a certified translation of my shots record.
They even looked at the little pock marks on my
arm to make sure, Yeah, that wasn't a falsified recurr

(39:14):
over with your parents, my mother.

Speaker 5 (39:16):
You know what was interesting what you said. You also
had to prove to our government here the United States
that you had a job.

Speaker 12 (39:23):
Oh that was yeah, before they even let us in
on a permanent resident visa. My mother had to have
a guaranteed job in writing. There was also going to
be guaranteed financial support, and we had to sign a
waiver not to apply for government benefits like Medicaid and
Social Security and whatever.

Speaker 5 (39:40):
Common sense would say, why do we want people coming
over that bring nothing, They have no education, they have
no job. All they're going to do is get on
the trough as soon as they get over here.

Speaker 12 (39:49):
Also to prove a clean criminal record.

Speaker 5 (39:52):
Oh wow, they ran a background check.

Speaker 12 (39:54):
Well, yeah, absolutely they did, Mitch.

Speaker 5 (39:56):
When did you come over Romania twenty thirty years.

Speaker 6 (40:00):
Some twenty one years ago from Romania Transylvania?

Speaker 5 (40:03):
I remember Transylvania? Can you imagine?

Speaker 6 (40:08):
Yeah? And back in two thousand and three I think,
And uh it was.

Speaker 5 (40:11):
How many years did it take you to get full citizenship?

Speaker 6 (40:14):
I think about three years. Many years will be longer, yes, oh,
because you got married. I got married, so I had
like a temporary green card which then turned into a
permanent green card, and then I applied for citizen sheep.
And that was a pretty fun process. You know all
the paper called.

Speaker 5 (40:32):
The sounds like, well used to be. I mean now
you just walk over or not now, but you know,
nine months ago.

Speaker 6 (40:39):
Yeah, so it was. It was fun.

Speaker 5 (40:41):
And yeah, do you guys have it? And I'm sorry
for people listening. If this is boring to you, a
screw you. It's not boring to me. But when you
guys have that different country background from a different place,
do you think you guys look at the US different
than people that were born here. And it's kind of like,
you know, like I feel like I don't know anything else.

(41:04):
So I'm proud to be an American and I love it,
and I can't imagine coming from somewhere else. But we
always hear well, actually nowadays here two things. Most of
the time you hear that's where you want to go.
It doesn't matter what country you're in, where you're going
to do the best is going to be the United States, absolutely,
and I think that's what most people think. Regardless of

(41:24):
what people want to tell you. It is the best
counter in the world. So either as the best gunter
in the world.

Speaker 6 (41:29):
Wow. I think if you ask around the world where
people want to travel and leave, they would say America.

Speaker 5 (41:34):
Yes, absolutely, you agree coming from Russia you must.

Speaker 12 (41:38):
Oh, no question. I mean, there is no comparison between
the US and whoever the second best is. And look,
all three of us who are legal immigrants, naturalized US citizens,
we're all successful business owners too.

Speaker 5 (41:49):
And you know something that's a good point. That's actually
a great point.

Speaker 17 (41:52):
Mark whenever me and my wife travel outside of the
United States and we come back to the airport, and
it's so nice for the custom officer to say.

Speaker 5 (42:03):
Welcome home. Yeah, welcome home, Welcome home in the secret
room in the airport.

Speaker 17 (42:07):
It's amazing to me. Okay, this is my home.

Speaker 5 (42:11):
Yeah, of course, I love fifty years and you'd never
I mean, you go back to mexll You always bragged
about that little city you go to. That's right. Yeah,
that's very cool, guys. I love that. I got to
hit the phones here, Barbara, What is going on with
this birth certificate? How can we help you?

Speaker 16 (42:27):
Hi? This is Barbara. I need a Colorado contact person
or maybe somebody.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
I need to hire, and let me give you the
background real quick.

Speaker 16 (42:38):
I'm not living in Colorado to my nephew who was
born out here. My sister gave birth to Harry seven
nineteen eighty. She put his last name in her name,
her last name since she was not married. Okay, then

(43:01):
then she got remarried. She finally got married in Pennsylvania
and is living well. She's with her a husband and
his name's Gordon.

Speaker 13 (43:13):
So Harry.

Speaker 5 (43:15):
Hey, Barbara, I want to make this a little a
little simpler, and then if you need to say something else,
that's fine. But when the kid was born, was he
born in a hospital? First of all?

Speaker 16 (43:26):
Yeah, he was born in Denver Health.

Speaker 5 (43:28):
And who was on the birth certificate from the hospital
at Denver Health. I mean, was it you? Who was it?
Who were the two people?

Speaker 16 (43:37):
Well, it was Maureen and she she didn't she didn't
put down the father got it.

Speaker 5 (43:42):
So it was just the mother. But his last name
then was her last name? Correct?

Speaker 16 (43:48):
Correct?

Speaker 5 (43:48):
Yeah? So when you if you call up that hospital,
are you saying they don't have a record of that.

Speaker 16 (43:54):
Well, that's what I'm trying to help. Harry. He's now
forty five. You know, he lives in Pennsylvania and he
can't even travel in a plane because he has.

Speaker 5 (44:04):
H So this all came up with the new license
I assume.

Speaker 16 (44:09):
Yeah, probably he's all you know, he's always gone on
under Harry Gordon. So I'm just trying to find a
right contact person for him in Colorado and possibly maybe
even somebody I need to hire.

Speaker 5 (44:22):
Well I had now idea, Suzanne. Wouldn't it simply be
at the hospital.

Speaker 7 (44:26):
Not at the hospital? I think they would go to
the state of Colorado mark and file for a new
birth certificate. He could probably do it right online.

Speaker 5 (44:35):
He knows the woman, he knows his mom's last name
at the time, right, Oh, yeah, uh huh, Yeah, I
just think this would be pretty simple. I guess I'm
a little perplexed. Why well, okay, Suzanne, you want to
dig into this, I mean, why not you You've looked
into birth certificates quite a bit. Actually, yeah, the hold
on a second. I want to hear a little more

(44:55):
about it too. But hold on, I'm going to take
a break. I'm going to come right back to you,
barberacuse An's gonna have some questions. Mike's got an issue,
or he's got a comment on checkpoints. Oh and by
the way, Susan found out, we had a guy call
up pretty interesting and said, Hey, when a cop comes
up to you and you get pulled over, how far
do you have to roll the window down? So we

(45:17):
actually had no idea if you even had to roll
it down. So she reached out to Joe Lazare. What
did Joe say?

Speaker 7 (45:23):
So what Joe said? This is his text. Legally just
a few inches you have to roll the window down
to exchange your driver's license, insurance, etc. But police officer
will make it an issue for officer safety if there's
no issues and roll it down, but not all obligated to,
especially if you put keys on the dash and keep
your hands on the steering wheel.

Speaker 5 (45:44):
That makes sense because if they're like, hey, this guy's
not rolling it down and you're fidgeting around the side
of the seat and stuff, he's going to get you
out of that car most likely. But I get it.
I didn't even think of that aspect. They asked for
insurance and license to go back to their car, you'd
have to roll it down to some degree. I've seen
on episodes of Cops. Have you guys seen this stuff?

(46:06):
Or on actually not episodes of cops, but like on
YouTube and TikTok where these guys that copp will walk
up and they'll put a sign up and they'll quote
something like out of the Constitution, but it always ends
up the same way. The cop drags them out and
they go to jail. It's like, I don't even know
what they're talking about. They're great videos, they're entertaining as hell.

(46:28):
Have you seen these dragons?

Speaker 12 (46:29):
Mark? I go ahead, Mark, I've seen a bunch of
these videos for entertainment value, and some of them are
quite successful. There are some policemen out there who actually
do understand the law. They understand our civil rights, and
they do. They're familiar with the constitution.

Speaker 5 (46:45):
But they the ones I've seen, like, they won't give
them a license, they won't roll the window down, they
won't do anything. They don't have their hands on the
steering wheel.

Speaker 12 (46:53):
Right, that's just complete noncompliance a sovereign citizens.

Speaker 5 (46:56):
Yeah, some of the sovereign citizen stuff, that's right, Dragon,
it's crazy, like you don't have the right to do
anything to me. Ever, it's like, uh, you just blew
through a stop sign and kill almost killed somebody.

Speaker 12 (47:08):
Yeah, that's like the far extreme of that video genre.
But we do see people asserting their civil rights appropriately
and correctly. So, and some of these police are smart
enough to understand what's going on. And I do see
these citizens to succeed in their efforts to preserve their
rights during this contact with the police.

Speaker 5 (47:26):
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Speaker 5 (48:11):
All right, threeh three seven one three A two five
five three zero three Martino, Suzanne, you found some information
for Barbara. So, Barbara, I want you to listen. And
also you can give your email to Kelly, and Susanna
will email you this information as well. But here's the
bottom line. Barbara knows someone that needs to find their

(48:33):
birth certificate. They live in Pennsylvania and they were born
here in Denwill.

Speaker 6 (48:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (48:38):
So, Barbara, just a question. Did you say his mother
is still alive but she lives in Pennsylvania as well?

Speaker 10 (48:45):
Yeah, okay?

Speaker 16 (48:47):
Cooperating with him though to get the birth certificates? Well,
why wouldn't she She doesn't have a copy of it.

Speaker 10 (48:52):
I get that.

Speaker 7 (48:54):
Why wouldn't she cooperate?

Speaker 16 (48:58):
Mental?

Speaker 7 (48:58):
I think, okay, because the easiest way to do it
would be for mom to request the birth certificate. But
if you give Kelly or Kelly give her my email,
do you have access to email, Barbara. Yes, okay, I'm
going to send you all the information, but you have
to get with the Colorado Vital Records. There's certain documentation

(49:19):
that he can provide to get his birth certificate, and
I think it can all be done through the mail.
But I think the problem is you were saying he's
been going by his stepdad's last name for many years. Correct. Yes,
does he have a driver's license out there?

Speaker 16 (49:36):
Yes, he does, and he's in Pennsylvania and he has
a business and he but he can't fly because they
say this is not the right name, right, So.

Speaker 7 (49:45):
But is his driver's license under his stepdad's last name
or under his birth name?

Speaker 16 (49:51):
Yes, under his stepdad's left.

Speaker 7 (49:53):
See, it's going to be easier if you can get
mom to cooperate. But let's just start here and then
we'll go forward with getting you some help. Kelly, give
her my email, and then Barbara, you email me. I'm
going to send you all the information, and I'm going
to help you if you run into any snags or
if this if your nephew runs into any snags.

Speaker 5 (50:10):
So I'll tell you what happened. He doesn't have a
real ID, He's got a driver's license like in Colorado.
I mean ours are real, but his isn't right and
he can't get on a plane.

Speaker 7 (50:20):
We'll figure it out. This shouldn't be too dangta.

Speaker 5 (50:22):
So Barbara, hold tight on that, Susan. Let me ask
you real quick. We had the Texas three or four,
Texas five, Texas five My go guys. I don't know
if you ever heard this story, Dmitri, I don't know
if you have. So this happened. How many years are
you going?

Speaker 18 (50:39):
Well?

Speaker 7 (50:39):
They called our show a couple couple of years ago.

Speaker 5 (50:43):
Now, these five kids are porn in a trailer in
Texas in the middle of the woods. Think he'll billy poor,
but then way poorer than he'll billy. Yeah, think as
poor as poor can get. I mean, mother gives birth
in a trailer in the middle of the wood. They
didn't have running plumbs. These kids are plumbing.

Speaker 7 (51:02):
These kids are like eighteen to twenty five years old there, yeah, right.

Speaker 5 (51:07):
So mother gives birth in the trailer. No hospital, know nothing.
I think maybe one of them or something.

Speaker 7 (51:13):
All yeah, like nine kids, and a few of them
were born in the hospital, but like there's maybe it
was four that were not born in a hospital and
they were never reported to the state.

Speaker 5 (51:23):
They're one hundred percent invisible born in this country. Now,
if you come over the border during Joe Biden, I'll
say it, or during you know, if you sneak over
here and get to what we refer to as the
sanctuary city, you can get a driver's license almost no
questions asked, not a real ID like we were just
talking about. But you can get a driver's license. Hell,

(51:44):
we just heard of a semi truck driver that got
a CDL in California that killed multiple people in Florida.
So you can get a driver's license, not even have citizenship,
not have anything. There's a ton of people right now.
I have a driver's license, don't have insurance, but Colorado
Gibbs some driver's license, thank you, Paulus. Now, regardless of

(52:05):
any of that, these kids that were born in Texas,
in Texas, if you look at them, they're as white
as white gets. These are white kids. It's evident they
didn't come from outside of this country. In fact, it's
evident they came from Texas, and it's evident they lived
back in the woods in Texas. Okay, no offense. If
they're listening but I want to get that point through.

(52:28):
They cannot get a driver's license, a social Security card,
a job, they can't get anything. They've had to work
under the table because they can't get it. Suzanne actually
got them an attorney through legal services. How many years ago,
it's probably.

Speaker 7 (52:44):
A bit about three, but it's a long process.

Speaker 5 (52:46):
They said it could be anywhere from two to ten years.
So where are we at? Just an up they think
about this everybody else It can come over here. Legally,
they can get a license in a bunch of states. Yeah,
but these kids can't.

Speaker 7 (53:02):
I stay in contact with the oldest daughter. I'll have
to ask her where it stands. But I know the
last I spoke with her, they were trying to get
documentation that she actually visited a hospital when she was
little for a broken arm or something, just to start
proving she exists.

Speaker 5 (53:19):
So through legal services here they're dealing with Texas, so
you have two states involved. If they were in Texas,
it might be a little easier. But I'll tell you
the truth. They asked for stuff they simply don't have.

Speaker 7 (53:30):
The state of Texas requires much more than like the
state of Colorado.

Speaker 5 (53:34):
Mark.

Speaker 12 (53:35):
I have a suggested solution to this, and I think
it was done hilariousness, even though it's going to sound
like I'm making light of the situation. But you know,
if they show up at a DMV in California or
Colorado and simply claim to be illegal aliens, they'll get
they'll literally will get a driver's license. Well they some
other dockam it won't get it, so security number it
will be. It will set them on the path. Right now,

(53:56):
they can't even get a driver's license.

Speaker 5 (53:58):
One of the kids was pulled over driving a car.
Who got the ticket his dad. His dad got the
ticket that wasn't even in the car because he was invisible.

Speaker 12 (54:08):
But my point is this is possibly a sneaky workaround
to this terrible situation that faces them right now.

Speaker 5 (54:16):
And you know what, the parents of these kids had
him working under the table feeding them. I'll tell you
what to me, these parents should be hung. Now I'm
being a little drastic here, but never to have your
kids in the system, ever, ever, ever is crazy. They
basically ruined these kids' lives.

Speaker 7 (54:36):
Yeah, it's I know. The last I had heard one
of the boys was the okay, remember it was he
was living with his girlfriend and his girlfriend's mother, and
the mother was a listener and reached out.

Speaker 5 (54:48):
That's how they think.

Speaker 7 (54:49):
He and the girl broke up and he ended up homeless,
and that's the last I heard about him.

Speaker 5 (54:54):
Yeah, he was a nice kid. I mean, it's crazy, man,
you can't get a job, which soci security number, don't
have one? How all people coming over here illegally have jobs?
I have no idea. But when it comes to people
from this country that are undocumented, you simply can't get documented.
But you're right to me, so let's follow that path.
How come they never so it would be so weird?
Where were you born Australia? Yeah, you think it's that simple.

Speaker 12 (55:18):
Well it is that simple because look, people come here,
or did until a few months ago, with literally zero documents,
zero used and arrest warrant as their proof of identity.

Speaker 5 (55:30):
Can you imagine.

Speaker 12 (55:31):
Some didn't have to prove an identity because they had
no paper. When they get a license, and they get
a license, they get some kind of a state identification card.
I'm not saying they will solve their problems, but it
will save set them on a path to be able
to get other documents.

Speaker 7 (55:44):
Right, will reach out to the sister and see what's
going on and maybe we can powow.

Speaker 5 (55:49):
I would love to get a good update from her too.
I mean that that poor girl. It's just so infuriating
how it went down. Hey, Mike, what's going on with you?
I gotta I want to know what your comment is
on the checkpoint?

Speaker 19 (56:03):
Oh, real quick? It was actually about the window.

Speaker 5 (56:08):
Having to roll the window down yet. Have you seen
those TikTok videos and stuff where people are like, it's
almost like they're trying to set the cops up for failure.
But I don't know.

Speaker 19 (56:18):
Oh yeah, yeah, the uh yes, absolutely yeah, And knowing
the law is what is what is important for people
to know. There's no requirement to roll down the window.
But obviously if you don't do that, the officers most
likely going to ask you to step out of your vehicle.

Speaker 5 (56:33):
Well, but if they asked for license and insurance because
you say, ran a red light or some kind of
traffic violation, you would have to roll the window down
to hand them this stuff, or at least open the
door or something.

Speaker 19 (56:47):
Right, and technically you don't want to open a door,
rolling on the window would be the smart thing to do. Yeah,
but that's the thing that People don't understand that an
officer has absolutely they can ask you to exit your vehicle.

Speaker 11 (56:57):
They don't even need probable cause to do so.

Speaker 19 (56:59):
And people they have to.

Speaker 5 (57:02):
Execute, Well, the probable cause would be the for whatever
reason they pulled them over to begin with.

Speaker 19 (57:09):
Yes, However, what if you got pulled over and they
didn't even have probable cause, you didn't even break that.

Speaker 5 (57:14):
They're not they're not supposed to. They're not supposed to
pull you over then. I mean, I'm not saying there's
not cops that don't do that, but they're not supposed
to pull you over.

Speaker 19 (57:21):
And so they can still Yeah, and so my point
is they can still ask you your vehicle, and that's
a chargeable offense on its own.

Speaker 5 (57:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (57:28):
People don't even realize. So they they they well, they
don't even need to tell you why they pulled you over.
They don't need to give you the probable cause exit
the vehicle. They can detain you, they don't need to
tell you why you can get arrested. It's not even
actually until the point where you're booked where they have
to spill everything and tell you what the probable cause was. Uh,

(57:51):
Colorado were a stop in ID state. And normally you
wouldn't have to surrender your ID if you didn't do
anything wrong.

Speaker 11 (57:58):
Because most cases they have to tell you.

Speaker 19 (58:00):
What the probable causes why they pulled you over. In
Colorado they don't, And so you can go this whole
line up until the point of getting booked, and you're
just racketing up all of these you know, uh, infringements
basically on your civil rights that it's a liability for
the officer not to not to you know, work with

(58:22):
you and comply with you. At that point you're like, oh, yeah,
then you can take them and sue them, and you've
got all these counts against them, So be kind of
done for an officer not to you know, not to
work with you. But yes, in Colorado stop an ID.
They still need probable cause to ask you for to
STrenD your ID.

Speaker 5 (58:41):
Well, of course, but generally they need they need truly
probable cause to pull you over. I guess is where
I keep coming back to.

Speaker 19 (58:49):
Right, and so down the line, you know, if you
ever end up in court or whatever, Yes, you've got
those counts up of civil liberties that have been broken.

Speaker 5 (58:57):
And so yeah, hey, Mike, I want you to to uh,
I don't want you to hang on the line, but
keep listening because you brought something up made me think
of crime and something dmitri H sent me. Denver top ten.
Did you guys know this? Top ten, top ten violent
crime city in the country, top ten. It's really remarkable.

(59:18):
When did that come out, Tomitri?

Speaker 12 (59:20):
I just encountered it early this morning. I think that
just came out today, or yeah.

Speaker 5 (59:23):
Today, or it's absolutely insane. Everybody holds tight, Bob, You'll
be up next three to oh three seven one three tuck.

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term care benefits, the pluses go on and on. What
would you say is a negative a negative to the
annuity you sell. I'm going to give you one that
I thinks a negative, but it's not a huge negative.
You kind of give up a little bit of the liquidity.
You can't get all your money back at once. Now,

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what's really cool is you can borrow from it and
you don't even have to pay it back. But on
any annuity that I know of, you could never get
all the money back without some kind of an issue,
without paying some kind of a penalty. So to me,
that would be the biggest problem with any annuity out there.
But no one puts all their eggs in one basket,

(01:01:58):
nor should you. So if you do have a one
hundred grand or an orphan four a one k, and
let's say you're forty or fifty, you put that in,
you immediately get to seventeen percent bonus. So you have
one hundred and seventeen thousand right away working for you.
And then if you wait twenty thirty years, whenever you're
going to retire, you've got a guaranteed income for life

(01:02:20):
that could be five six seven thousand dollars a month forever.
And on top of that, if you fall ill, what
happens at doubles.

Speaker 17 (01:02:28):
It doubles if you need long term care assistance like
in home care, nursing, home care assist you know, assistic
dementia care.

Speaker 5 (01:02:36):
Any time. If you can't cook, I'll give people an example.
If you can't cook for yourself and you can't bathe
for yourself, that benefit kicks on.

Speaker 17 (01:02:44):
That's right, Mark. You know, an annuity is not a
savings account. No, it is actually a retirement account. So
the negative that you were talking about, you know, it's
minute comparing the benefits that people will get.

Speaker 5 (01:02:57):
If you think of a traditional four to one CA,
it's the same thing. You can borrow from it a little,
but if you take it out, you get hit with
all the fees and all the taxes. That is right.
So it's a retirement account.

Speaker 17 (01:03:08):
So people need to understand that an annuity is an
income stream.

Speaker 5 (01:03:13):
And you can do it. You can roll over literally
from a four to one consolutely. Absolutely.

Speaker 17 (01:03:18):
We have people that roll over their four a one k's.
They're iras, they're CDs, now because they're they're not making
any money on a seat nothing one ten. The key
is they want to make their money grow but keep
it safe, but at the same time they want to
have all the additional benefits.

Speaker 5 (01:03:33):
And what's crazy if you really think about it, when
we talk about guaranteed money, just think about that. When
the stock market goes up with Joe's product, you participate,
it ratchets up, It goes up, up, up, up up.
Your account value goes up, up, up, up up. When
the stock market goes down or has a bad year,
or like like back in Oh way to twelve or whatever,

(01:03:54):
hasn't a horrible has multiple bad years, you're ratchet in.
You don't go down. That's right. They are where you're at.
That is right. You never lose, you can never lose
principal period or your gains, you can never lose. That's
what I mean. It's up right. And then once again,
when you finally decide to retire, maybe you have Social
Security and you don't need that annuity guaranteed money every

(01:04:16):
month for a while, but then all of a sudden
you do need it. Cost of living goes up. The
longer you keep it building, the more money you have
the bigger that paycheck every month is going to be.
But you can pull the trigger whenever you want.

Speaker 17 (01:04:28):
That is right, you know, Mark, we had a seminar
yesterday in Colorado Springs, and the biggest fear that people
said to me that they had was running out of money. Yeah,
of course running out of money. You know, they asked me,
is my money going to last me as long as
I will? So the annuity has the protection that they
will get a guaranteed income for the rest of their lives.

Speaker 5 (01:04:52):
It's like, this is really what people want. It's like,
if you're getting three four thousand a month in social Security,
now here's a way you can also guarantee yourself just
like social Security as long as you live, you're also
going to get this. Along with that Social Security. Then
once again that long term care. Then if a lot
of people worry about that, long term care in Colorado

(01:05:12):
can be ten thousand dollars a month. So if you
got an annuity that's paying five or six, then all
of a sudden something happens. You got to bring people in.
Then that it doubles. You're now getting twelve. You can
bring people in. You can find a nice facility. It's
really cool. We're going to talk and run some numbers
with Jordan in the next couple hours. But I'll tell
you something that's incredible. You know, if you're younger, in

(01:05:35):
your twenties or thirties, and you have the ability, maybe
you inherit some money or something, to do a fifty
or one hundred thousand dollars annuity when you're around the
age of thirty, you will be absolutely shocked. We're talking
close to a half a million dollars a year when
you retire, guaranteed forever. And that doesn't even include with
that benefit. So we're going to talk about that. But
I promise, second we come back from this. I dove

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Speaker 5 (01:06:55):
All right, three O three seven one three A two
five five. We got a couple hours coming up. I'm
gonna jump over and get another comment from Jason on checkpoints. Jason,
what's going on?

Speaker 11 (01:07:06):
I have the thing about the rolling your window up
and down? Are you saying like to roll them down
because the cop doesn't feel safe or whatever? But honestly,
like my my my truck in particular extension of my
private home. So like, for instance, if my car was
to get broken into, my car insurance doesn't cover it,

(01:07:27):
my home insurance does.

Speaker 19 (01:07:29):
So I don't, well, what is it an RV niked?

Speaker 11 (01:07:32):
What is it coming out of surry niked? And open
the Jason open.

Speaker 5 (01:07:36):
Jason, what is this magical truck you have that's covered
by your homeowners?

Speaker 11 (01:07:42):
Has compass about it?

Speaker 5 (01:07:44):
Well, I guarantee I can ask him. And there's not
a car in the world that's covered by homeowners. I've
never heard of that in my life.

Speaker 11 (01:07:52):
Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah, I didn't know. I got broken
into on the side of the road.

Speaker 5 (01:07:56):
Maybe your tools and did you have tools in there thing?

Speaker 11 (01:08:00):
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:08:01):
Okay, that's an I thought you were talking about the
damage to the vehicle. I got you, Jason, No, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 11 (01:08:08):
Yeah. So anything that's stepped related, I never knew until
I got broken into that my home insurance covered. It's
not not my vehicle, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:08:16):
It's your personal property is what's covered. It's not the vehicle.
But you know what's funny, some topics blow me away.
You know, many calls we've had now on comments on checkpoints.
It's nuts. Do you think cops go too far when
it comes to checkpoints? Jason, I never.

Speaker 11 (01:08:35):
I really don't have a thought on it.

Speaker 5 (01:08:37):
Okay.

Speaker 11 (01:08:37):
I mean I'm not one that went on drinking and driving,
so I really don't have a thought on it.

Speaker 5 (01:08:41):
Yeah, it doesn't affect you, but it could affect you.
I mean if it takes ten minutes out of your life,
which isn't a big deal. But yeah, you're right, most
people it doesn't affect because most people don't drive over
the limit.

Speaker 11 (01:08:53):
Yeah, I guess I would have to say, if anything,
it's if it's not warranted and they're just pull them
to well over just to be checking stuff. I think
it's a little part fits a little excessive.

Speaker 5 (01:09:04):
I think I could agree with that. I mean, yeah,
now if there's problem areas, then maybe I would think
of it differently, you know. I I thank you for
the call. Jason. One line open, three h three Martino.
Susanna and I were visiting our son in Chadran, Nebraska
and there's Indian reservations pretty much right there, and we

(01:09:27):
found out some very very interesting things about the reservations. Laura,
Bob Frank, I promise you're up next.

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troubleshooter dot com. I got an email for you, Mitch.
What does that mean? Okay, I know what he's saying.
I always advertise when I'm doing your lives, and same

(01:12:19):
with Tom. We always say you charge for installation in
the fabrication of the granite or of the courts or
of whatever countertop. Speaking of that, you do every counter
What don't you do? I mean, do you do any
synthetic countertops.

Speaker 6 (01:12:34):
We don't do laminate or what we refer to as
for Mike. We don't do concrete concrete. People actually do
concrete tiles sometimes like the poor concrete ye would have
about tiles, No, no, but we do tilework. We install
a floors and backsplushes a lot. Yeah. So yes, so
a lot of time in your kit Wait, wait, you

(01:12:55):
do tile floor. Yes, we do tiles as well.

Speaker 5 (01:12:57):
Yes, I didn't know that. Yes, and we sell care
and it's as well. I knew that because I bought
him from you. Yes, and yes and hardware.

Speaker 6 (01:13:06):
Yes. A lot of times homeowners would not want a
granite or a quarts backsplash, and you know tiles are
very common. So yes, we installed tiles.

Speaker 5 (01:13:16):
So you probably got a kick ass tile guy we do.

Speaker 6 (01:13:18):
Yes, he's very good. Ye, and he'll do Yes, he'll
do floors.

Speaker 5 (01:13:21):
That's incredible. Think about that. You get your bathroom done
like we did. You just did our master bathroom. I
didn't even think about that we ended up getting he
did tile floors. I'll be honest, Mitch, you have done
so much work in our house. I never knew I
knew you would do backsplashes. I didn't know you had
that kind of flooring guy that's that good on tile.

(01:13:42):
I simply didn't know it.

Speaker 6 (01:13:43):
Yes, we can help with tile installation, floors and backsplashes.
And I have a comment about your project. You know,
we allocated a couple slaps for your bathroom, and almost
every time we have a little bit of leftover materials.
So just you know, think of window seals, think of
shower bench is or you know, trash all that for Yes,
we uh.

Speaker 5 (01:14:04):
I don't think you charged us for the windows, sills
or anything.

Speaker 6 (01:14:07):
We we want to. We want to utilize most of
the slabs that are around the tub. Yes, around the
tub as well.

Speaker 5 (01:14:12):
Yes, and even in the bathroom, in the bathroom, the
toilet area, you did.

Speaker 6 (01:14:16):
A lot the little shelf and yeah, so we so you.

Speaker 5 (01:14:20):
Try to utilize every bit every.

Speaker 6 (01:14:23):
Of the of the slabs that we allocate for a project.

Speaker 5 (01:14:26):
Now let's go back to what I was saying though,
so we say you only charge for fabrication and installation
I mean, you don't mark up the granted. So if
it's at yours, of course you paid wholesale. You basically
charged what you paid for.

Speaker 6 (01:14:39):
Yeah, so we charged the slabs, But why.

Speaker 5 (01:14:41):
Why do you do that? I mean it seems crazy
to do that.

Speaker 6 (01:14:44):
Well, I don't know, maybe some other companies would want
to make money off of materials and then libor, and
I don't think that's fair. So we just charge. We
just charged the slabs as what we pay from our
suppliers and uh. And then yeah, the libor is what
what we are not living on.

Speaker 5 (01:14:58):
That's where you make your money. And then you guys
just open You got a beautiful showroom. When we used
you last time, you didn't open the place up right
next to you. You were in the midst of getting
it all going explain that. I mean, now you have
what twice as many slabs and you did before.

Speaker 6 (01:15:16):
So we have the showroom and we have the lots
of slabs outside, lots and lots side inside, we have
all the samples. But yes, so we are now have
the building next next door to us, and we flooded
it with slabs and wow, and we have a lot,
a lot of options. We have you know, indoor storage
now so the homeowners can stop buy and select you know,
different court slabs and natural granite and courtzitell.

Speaker 5 (01:15:39):
But what I loved, and this is true, this goes
for everybody out there. So Suzanne wanted a very particular
color for that bathroom. We were redoing the whole bathroom,
not just the countertops. We had you do the countertops
and around the tub and everything we talked about. But
you didn't have the exact ones she wanted. So you
sent us to a place in down town Denver somewhere

(01:16:01):
and actually it was more out towards the airport. It
was more out towards Gia. This thing was like a
football field and they had a bunch of slabs. Are
the kind she wanted, the marble, And she went out
there and found the exact one and literally got it
for the wholesale price. It went right on your account.

(01:16:22):
We paid exactly what you paid for it. So you
let everybody do that. If you don't have it, I mean,
most likely you're going to have what they want.

Speaker 6 (01:16:29):
Yeah, so I encourage home owner stall by our showroom
look around. Hopefully likely you'll find it a nice color there.
But if not, then we can recommend a couple of
local suppliers and you write, some of them are on
the east side. Yeah, on I seventy passed Colisseum day.

Speaker 5 (01:16:44):
That's where this one was. Yeah, it was massive.

Speaker 6 (01:16:47):
It's as simple as you find your slabs, you reserve them,
we call, we have them delivered. We charge you just
what they charge us, exact price, exact price, and then
you know, we'll figure out the scope of ORC. We'll
present the proposal based on you know, how much labor
goes into it, and we'll get it on a schedule.

Speaker 5 (01:17:05):
And I'll tell you I didn't realize until I used you.
You know, we just used you this year, but the
first time we used you had to be eight or
nine years ago for the upstairs bathroom. And it turned
out so beautiful. The cabinets, that line of cabinets you have,
not only is the price unbelievable for what you get.
When I was buying those, I looked at Home Depot
and I looked at some other you know, other other areas.

(01:17:28):
I don't want to go into everywhere, but honest to goodness,
for the bang for the buck, it's the most beautiful
cabinets and they have those doors. It just closed automatically
and it's just soft closing, soft closed. It's just so cool.
And then then you talk to people about bullnos and
all the different edging, and there's so many things to it.

(01:17:48):
What's the popular thing now just no edging or what?

Speaker 6 (01:17:52):
Yes? Simple simple standard that like simple, just square or
ease the little beach.

Speaker 5 (01:17:56):
But you can do whatever they want.

Speaker 6 (01:17:58):
You can do custom you know, different ground or different.

Speaker 5 (01:18:02):
Carve your initial into something if you want it. I
mean literally, he can do whatever you want. It's crazy.
He does outdoor patio work. I've seen some of the
stuff he's done for these two three four million dollar
homes on the patio. The kitchen area outside is all granted.

Speaker 6 (01:18:15):
I mean it's AM's more popular nowadays. It's the porcelain,
the porcelain slabs, porcelain. Yeah, we're actually changing some displays
in our shoreroom now and we're gonna put some nice,
nice porcelain on a conner top and on the walls.

Speaker 5 (01:18:26):
I love it. In fact, I'm gonna beat you up
as the show goes on. But your pricing is already
so good. What are you willing to do? Honestly, man,
I don't want to. I don't want to tell you
what to do by any means. It's not my business.
But for today, if someone calls this week and mentions
the show, I mean, what are you thinking you'll do?

Speaker 6 (01:18:46):
So we always have the free bedroom and the idea
behind it is that we'll have some leftover materials, so
we might as well cut it for you and install
it in your powder room there.

Speaker 5 (01:18:55):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (01:18:55):
But let's do a special on the material the slabs
that we have in stock only, so in your in
your facility, yes, stop by in select from what we
have in stock, and then.

Speaker 5 (01:19:05):
We'll slabs you have. I hate tenn several hundreds, Yeah,
it's sort of. I just want people to understand he
doesn't have like three slabs. Yeah, hundreds, if not thousands,
got go ahead, keep going.

Speaker 6 (01:19:16):
Now, let's do a twenty percent off twenty for the
next week and a half off of the slabs yep,
that we have in invent thirty. I love that. Where
can I go?

Speaker 12 (01:19:26):
Where can anybody go to take a look at these
what's a big intersection near you where these slabs are
on display?

Speaker 5 (01:19:31):
It's not far, it's outside where it's outside of golden.

Speaker 6 (01:19:34):
It's a golden address, But it's really more like click
with it's right on I seventy and sixth Avenue.

Speaker 12 (01:19:39):
Oh okay, that's what that's the That's what I was looking.

Speaker 5 (01:19:42):
It's like a state patrol place down there, the courthouses there.

Speaker 6 (01:19:47):
From Littleton takes C four seventy over from Denver text
takes sixth yeah west yep.

Speaker 5 (01:19:52):
From my house in frank Down. I mean, if traffic's
all right, it's like forty minutes, I take C four
seventy right.

Speaker 6 (01:19:58):
I guarantee you'll get the best customers at lea swinging
stub biol shoreroom.

Speaker 5 (01:20:01):
Not only that, you're going to get a great pricing.
The pricing is unbelievable, Dimitri. I mean literally, I am
not kidding. Because he didn't have exactly what she wanted.
When wouldn't we say you get to use this wholesale account.
That's exactly it. That's what he charges for us a fabrication.

Speaker 6 (01:20:15):
Well, it's important for us that you the home own
to find the slab that you love for your kitchen
or for the bethroom.

Speaker 5 (01:20:20):
Maneah, you're the one who's gonna live with it.

Speaker 6 (01:20:22):
If you find it in our shoreroom there in our yard,
that's great. You know, there will be some special pricing
for that. But if not, we can recommend these local suppliers.
And you know, once you find your special piece, then
we'll cut it and turn it into your.

Speaker 5 (01:20:33):
B I like granted the most. I mean, I'm sorry,
I just like granted. I love granted. You know, our
kitchen stuff. You can pretty much put anything on that grant.
It doesn't do anything. A hot pan, a cookie sheet,
comes out, a pizza thing. I mean, it's almost impossible
to screw up granted.

Speaker 12 (01:20:50):
That was my next question. I know there are some
natural stones that are not durable enough for kitchen use,
like red wine. You know, I always end up with
that red wine stain from the stuff dripping down the bottle.
So what stone should I stay away from that? If
I want to avoid coffee stains, red wine stains.

Speaker 6 (01:21:06):
If it's sealed properly, then you should not stain.

Speaker 5 (01:21:08):
Oh, and we do that.

Speaker 6 (01:21:09):
So we install it, we finish it, we clean it,
and then we apply the sealer that ceiler will protect
it from staining.

Speaker 12 (01:21:15):
Or wash. You know, I wash my countertops, you know,
I spray something on them and I wipe them down
with paper towels. A few times a day, So how
often would one reseal that that stone.

Speaker 6 (01:21:27):
Well, some of these new sealers are are are very
good and they last a long time, but it's probably
good to reseal, you know, every five ten years, especially
on the sink here.

Speaker 12 (01:21:36):
Very reasonable.

Speaker 6 (01:21:37):
It's not like that, you know, they already had to
seal every six months or so.

Speaker 5 (01:21:42):
And he's talking like he said, you're only talking around
the kitchen or around like the sink area. I mean,
our our countertops are freaking everywhere in our kitchen. There's
areas we don't use, we'd never reseal.

Speaker 6 (01:21:54):
And now these new courtz slabs and porcelain slabs are
non pores because the way they mix them with you know,
with the epoxy and with the resin, and they're yeah, uh,
they will not stay those.

Speaker 12 (01:22:06):
Can I set something extremely hot from the oven on
one of those? Will the resin be damaged on a court?

Speaker 6 (01:22:11):
That's a good question. So on a granite or natural slabs,
they're usually heat resistant, but not the courts because of
the do the one thing that you should not do,
But otherwise they're very very hard, very durable, so.

Speaker 5 (01:22:25):
You probably shouldn't do that in a kitchen then right.

Speaker 6 (01:22:27):
Yeah, you should not well no, we uh will just
be mindful about that.

Speaker 5 (01:22:30):
Just you're not going to put a five hundred degree pama.

Speaker 6 (01:22:33):
Yes, but course is a very popular choice. I would
actually say maybe seven out of ten kitchens nowadays get.

Speaker 5 (01:22:39):
Courts couranted so much I did too. All right, listen,
I've got to get to the phones. Lead Laura, Frank,
I promise I'm gonna come to you right after this.
We got an issue with a grandson Frank's been holding.
It looks like the longest Frank, I promise, I'll get
to you really fast. It's a quick question. Then, Laura
and Lee, I promise. Next, I promise, I promised. I promise.

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Speaker 5 (01:23:38):
All right, three O three seven one three A two
five five three oh three. Uh Martino, please remember that
number works on and off the air. Hey Bob, what
is going on? And I appreciate you holding so long?
What is happening with the ho aa?

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
Hey?

Speaker 14 (01:23:53):
Mark, can you hear me?

Speaker 5 (01:23:54):
Yes, sir, I got you, ladd and clear buck.

Speaker 14 (01:23:56):
Yeah, Hey, Furse, thanks for taking my call. You got
it here here the issue that's been going on for
a while.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
So I live in a condo in Colorado Springs.

Speaker 14 (01:24:06):
The unit above me is a tenant.

Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
I'm an owner on the first floor.

Speaker 14 (01:24:11):
It so the guy above me allowed has been allowing
his little dog to urinate and defecate on his patio
on a makeshift.

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
Relief pad a mastercurb. So he's somewhat you know, cleans
up the feces, but then, ever so often, then he
hoses off his patio and it's concrete, so nothing's coming through.
It's going over the edge.

Speaker 14 (01:24:39):
So it goes over the edge and wraps back around
on the decorative molding and then splashes down on my
patio and gets everything on my patio wet with the residue.

Speaker 6 (01:24:51):
Got it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
I've contacted the management.

Speaker 14 (01:24:54):
Company of the HOA. In the beginning it seemed like
they were on my side, but they quickly backed off,
and now they say we're done. This is a neighbor
to neighbor issue or their attorney and they're like, deal
with it. We're we're not going to do anything else.

Speaker 10 (01:25:11):
We're done.

Speaker 14 (01:25:12):
Hey, Bob, clean off the side of the building.

Speaker 5 (01:25:14):
Yeah, a couple of things here here, here's where I
want to start this. Have you actually tried to communicate
with this guy or this gal above you that this
sucks and you don't want him to do it anymore,
or try to do something else and it's getting on
some of your property or the siding or whatever.

Speaker 10 (01:25:32):
Yes, but it goes.

Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
It's more complicated than that. On my last interaction with him,
I mean, in my interactions with him, he's irrational, volatile,
and at times threatening.

Speaker 6 (01:25:45):
Got it.

Speaker 14 (01:25:46):
And the last time I spoke to him was July twenty,
and he was taunting me about this whole situation.

Speaker 5 (01:25:52):
How was he taunting you?

Speaker 6 (01:25:53):
What was he saying?

Speaker 14 (01:25:55):
Oh, like, oh, you thought you were gonna, you know,
ask me up dude, you know, but it didn't work.

Speaker 10 (01:26:02):
Did it.

Speaker 5 (01:26:03):
How old is this guy?

Speaker 8 (01:26:05):
Uh?

Speaker 14 (01:26:05):
He is in his early sixties.

Speaker 5 (01:26:07):
Wow, and he's throwing around the F bomb like that.

Speaker 14 (01:26:10):
Huh yeah, yeah, you know I had code enforcement out here.

Speaker 5 (01:26:13):
What did code enforcement say? Because that was that was
about my next idea. Yeah, is there actually a code?

Speaker 2 (01:26:21):
There is, but but the code references she needs not
urine and and and code enforcement says, I cannot see feces.

Speaker 14 (01:26:33):
So you know, he he came out twice and talked
to me. He was nice, he's it's like and he admitted,
he said, I'm going out on a limb here, but
I'm going to write him up. And he did, and
it gives him fourteen days. So they come back and
they look and it's clean, and that's fine. But but
you know again the issue it has to stop and

(01:26:55):
he needs to get rid of it. That that makeshift
release station.

Speaker 5 (01:27:00):
What do you think, Tomitri, what would you do in
this circumstance? And I say that, aren't you in a condo?

Speaker 12 (01:27:07):
Yeah, I'm in a condo in a multi unit building.

Speaker 5 (01:27:10):
So think about that. If the guy right above you
is spraying with a hose PM and it's coming down,
and you know, what would you do honestly, I mean
it's kind of weird. It's almost like I want to say, Bob,
grab a hose and just do it, because you've he's
actually pretty much gone down every avenue I've thought of.

Speaker 12 (01:27:29):
Well, there's another avenue, you know, as a resident of
an HOA and I looked into this a couple of
years ago, and I have had a very serious problem
with a huge drunkard of a neighbor. There is a
right to private action in enforcing HOA covenants.

Speaker 5 (01:27:42):
Well, basically because they can enforce it with him, you
go after the HOA.

Speaker 12 (01:27:47):
No, I believe you actually go after the neighbor. And
believe it or not, small claims courts here in Colorado.

Speaker 5 (01:27:55):
That quick the drunkard, I didn't have to.

Speaker 12 (01:27:57):
I took him to a different kind of quart ask
for a protection order and I got it. It's a
civil protection order. And then the drunkard immediately moved away
because he knew he was going to violate the protection
order whether he tried to or not.

Speaker 5 (01:28:10):
But I don't think I don't think Bob could get
a protection order in Colorado Springs for this.

Speaker 11 (01:28:16):
No no no.

Speaker 12 (01:28:17):
I only brought that up in the context of the
research that I've done, got it on small claims actions
to enforce restrictive covenants.

Speaker 5 (01:28:25):
Well, the only thing I could think of was small
claims though, So here's the issue with small claims and
most well in Colorado, as far as anyone I've ever done,
and I've done twenty or thirty of them, it has
to be monetary. It has to be something that comes
back to dollars. I have never heard of suing anybody
in small claims court for an action in other words, well,

(01:28:49):
definitely not criminal, But I've never heard of, like suing
someone in Colorado who's to compel some sort of to
compel them to mow their lawn or cut down a tree.

Speaker 12 (01:28:58):
You know, I downloaded and carefully read the small Claims
instructions and there is an entire section, it's about two
to two and a half pages that deal with actions
to enforce restrictive covenants.

Speaker 5 (01:29:10):
Hey, Bob, how about if Dmitri sent you over that information.
Small claims is only fifty five bucks and if they'll
actually accept the filing. I mean that's pretty interesting. But
what so you're saying what you have read on small
claims core they can actually make this guy stop. If
the judge or magistrate agrees with I was yes, then

(01:29:34):
the penalty b though help me out here if he
didn't stop. So let's follow this down the road. And
the magistrate says, yes, you know, mister upstairs neighbor, you
are no longer allowed to take a hose and just
basically wash off p onto Bob's patio. You can't do
it anymore.

Speaker 12 (01:29:54):
Well, I did think about that, and that becomes an
order of the court, which is the same thing as
an or of the county court. And if the neighbor
violates it, and continues to violates the court order, then.

Speaker 5 (01:30:07):
I'd be very curious if this could be filed. I
mean really, if a court clerk would file this, I'd
be very happy. Bob, is that something you want to try,
because I'll have Dmitri. Now he's not an attorney, This
isn't legal advice, but he's going to help you because
he's done stuff like this practical advice.

Speaker 12 (01:30:23):
Well, yeah, all I can help him with is provide
him with a link to these small Claims instructions that
contain the several pages that discuss right of privacy.

Speaker 5 (01:30:31):
But if he has a question, where do I file it?
You can say in the county you're at. Oh yeah, yeah,
very basic stuff. But Bob, would you like that that
would be a help. And I'll tell you what. I'd
want to follow this, maybe even weekly, because we could
use this tactic for a lot of calls in the future.

Speaker 12 (01:30:48):
Oh absolutely, So.

Speaker 14 (01:30:50):
Yes, I would appreciate that. I am interested, and I
think that's where I'm headed. I'm trying not to do that.

Speaker 5 (01:30:58):
Well, us calling him. The other thing is Tomitri or
one of our Deputy Bow or Deputy Scott or anybody.
Deputy Dollar really or Chopper or Doc or anybody could
call over there. But I don't think that's gonna go anywhere.
I mean, this guy's already throwing around the F bomb
and rubbing in your face that he's doing it. I

(01:31:19):
think really a magistrate, if it works out, would be
the option.

Speaker 10 (01:31:25):
Yeah, I'm willing to do that.

Speaker 14 (01:31:27):
I'm also interested to know what you guys think about.
You know, per the management company, they say their attorney
has declared this is a neighbor to neighbor issue. Yeah,
therefore they're done.

Speaker 5 (01:31:41):
Yeah, well that's it. I mean, to get into that
fight would be a lot harder. First of all, you
have hoa documents, management documents. I have no idea what
you personally agreed to when you moved into that condo,
but I guarantee there's probably an arbitration or mediation clause
or something. It's gonna call lost you a ton of
money to try to get them to enforce something they

(01:32:03):
don't want to enforce. I'm not saying it's impossible. If
you could clearly prove it, that would be great, but
you're going to have to originally do it through mediation
and pay for the mediator and do a lot of things.
And I don't know if you would win because I
don't know what your documents say about it.

Speaker 14 (01:32:19):
Yeah, I've been in the documents and there's a lot
of herbage in there that says they are responsible for
the building maintenance and the cleaning.

Speaker 5 (01:32:28):
Not on that patio, though, I bet, not on that patio, not.

Speaker 14 (01:32:32):
On my patio, but on the side of the You know,
the other thing.

Speaker 5 (01:32:35):
You could do in small claims court, I'm gonna put
you listen, man, make sure Kelly has all your information.
But the other thing you could do in small claims
court is simply charge the guy for the labor when
he's got to go out there and hit it with
his own o's and actually come up with it. I'd
like what you're saying, and I'd go down there first,
but then he'd actually have something to build for as well.

(01:32:56):
But going through the management company, if they're not going
to do it, I just think that's going to be
a much costlier way to go. And I don't even
know if it's going to remedy the issue, because ultimately
they're not responsible for that patio you are dealing with
the homeowner. I got to take this breakdough, Bill, Laura, Frank,
you guys are up next. Bob. Make sure you give

(01:33:17):
all the information to Kelly. Kelly get it to Dmitri.
We'll be right back.

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Speaker 5 (01:33:58):
All right, three three seven one three eight two five
five Real quick, Cindy. Cindy has an idea, or at
least a comment on the situation with Bob and the
dog above him and neighbor that basically the dog urinates
and then takes a hose and it ends up all
over Bob's patio at his condo. What's your comment, Cindy,

(01:34:20):
all right, I can hear you.

Speaker 13 (01:34:22):
Fine, go ahead, okay, good, thank you.

Speaker 18 (01:34:26):
You know, having been a condo owner and then having
had to lease it out to somebody, Yeah, the behavior
of the tenant is they have a lease with the owner.
I think Bob needs to contact the owner. Did you
already go over that?

Speaker 20 (01:34:43):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:34:43):
But you know what, you know what, Cindy, He did
mention that the person above was a tenant and Dimitri's
gonna be in touch with him, so it's no big deal.
I did kind of forget that he said that till
you just said it. You're absolutely right. I would not
take this tenant to court. I'd be taking the own
under of the condo to court. One hundred percent. I
forgot it was a tenant situation, but the advice remains

(01:35:06):
the exact same, right, right, Or.

Speaker 18 (01:35:11):
He could start if he could start by calling the
owner and alerting the owner.

Speaker 5 (01:35:16):
You know, I would assume he has, but who knows
You're right, Maybe he hasn't.

Speaker 18 (01:35:23):
Yeah, that's the person who's responsible. That's who the covenant covers.

Speaker 5 (01:35:29):
Oh, absolutely, in fact the yeah, yeah, in fact one percent, Cindy.
In fact, I'll go a step further. That tenant probably
doesn't have any kind of contractual agreement with the condo.
It's all with the owner of the condo who has
it with the with the HOA and the management company.
So I agree with you one hundred percent. That was

(01:35:50):
a great catch. I appreciate you calling in on that.

Speaker 13 (01:35:54):
Sure, thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:35:55):
I love our I love our audience. Honestly, I know
the guy said it to second Cindy said that I
remember it. Oh, we did say it was a tenant.
So let's make sure Dmitri knows that, because really he's
going to be suing the kind of warner. You know
a lot of people call it for advice and they
never go that next step and actually do it. Now,
who's been holding the longest is uh Laura, Laura, what's

(01:36:17):
going on with this contractor? Laura for having of course,
what is going on? Laura.

Speaker 8 (01:36:27):
Yeah, we've been in the midst of a basement remodel
that started the beginning of June. It was projected to
finish the end of July. We're nowhere near being done,
and we've had issue after issue. We're currently at the
point where the contractor has grinded our floor in some

(01:36:47):
areas this is in the basement, and put self leveler
in some spaces and laid LVP flooring and we can
see the tongue and groove. The floor had bubbles in
it like they've added either extra sins or underlaymen.

Speaker 5 (01:37:06):
So the floor itself looks like crap.

Speaker 8 (01:37:09):
Oh my gosh, it is beyond crap.

Speaker 5 (01:37:11):
And I well, i'd love to I'd love to get
a picture of it. So I'd love to get a
picture of it to understand how bad it is. But
let's move past the floor real quick. And I do
want to ask you this in June, how much money
did you give him down? If any are you paying
as you going? Did he take a percentage down? What
does the payment history look like up to date?

Speaker 8 (01:37:32):
Yeah, so Luckily we didn't put any money down at
the beginning, but we've paid on a weekly basis as
things have been completed, very good. We have not paid
anything for the flooring or the grinding that's been done.
We bought the LVP material, got our own.

Speaker 5 (01:37:49):
So it's been but according to you, it's probably worthless
at this point. If they got to, you know, dig
it all.

Speaker 8 (01:37:54):
Up, well, it's absolutely worth worthless because they have chipped pea.

Speaker 5 (01:38:00):
What do they say? What does the contractors say right now?
If I got him on the air and said, hey,
she says the flooring is absolutely horrible, what would he say?

Speaker 8 (01:38:10):
He would say it is being installed per specifications of
the flooring company. And so that's where our issue is.
He says, for the remainder of this project, we owe
him ten thousand dollars. Now, reminder, that would be the
floor We need, doors, we need trim. He hasn't installed

(01:38:31):
the vanity in our bathroom, hasn't finished alone.

Speaker 5 (01:38:34):
Well, he's saying, hold on, hold on a second, I
want to make sure I understand this. So what he
is going to tell us, or what he is telling you,
at least you owe him ten grand right now, because
one the floor was done to the proper specs of
the manufacturer, and you owe him for installing the floor.
And what is the rest of the money for if

(01:38:56):
he didn't do the trim? Is he saying you still
owe him for the trim or the finishing work?

Speaker 9 (01:39:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:39:03):
Right now he's saying we owe him even.

Speaker 5 (01:39:05):
Though he hasn't done it. He's saying because you've finished
the job. He's saying, because you didn't, even though he
hasn't finished it, you got to let him finish it.
Is that basically what he's saying exactly.

Speaker 8 (01:39:16):
And we're not comfortable having him back in our house.
We already know that we're going to end up paying
more money because we've probably lost this material.

Speaker 7 (01:39:22):
Well is it wait a second, though, we need someone
to come in and fix it.

Speaker 5 (01:39:25):
Is there something outside of that though? Outside of the flooring.
Apparently he's done other work. Give me an idea of
something he did that he did well or he did
to standard.

Speaker 18 (01:39:37):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 8 (01:39:39):
He has a wonderful tile guy.

Speaker 5 (01:39:41):
Okay, that completed our shower and our Okay, that's all
I wanted to hear. I just wanted to verify, hold on,
I just wanted to verify the guy was capable of
doing something. So now I want to dig into your
psyche a little more. You said we don't trust him,
we don't want him back. Let's just say I got
him to come on air and admit that, yes, that
flooring was screwed up and he was going to redo

(01:40:03):
the flooring and then get the other stuff finishing or
get the other the finishing work done. Why wouldn't that
be acceptable at this point? Did something else happen in
this business relationship that you don't want him back in
the house? Why is it to the point now if
this guy decided he would get it done properly, you
wouldn't accept that.

Speaker 8 (01:40:25):
Yeah, well, right now he is refusing to fix any
of the issues with the flooring. He has been very
disrespectful and rude to both myself, my partner, as well
as my father. He even told us to get out
of our basement while he could talk to his workers.

Speaker 5 (01:40:44):
All right, hold on a second, let me take this
hold on. I'm starting to get a good picture of
this Kelly. I get the contractor's name in information. I
want to help her out, and I got to get
those pictures.

Speaker 2 (01:40:58):
Laura.

Speaker 5 (01:40:58):
I know you can hear me right now, please, Kelly's
going to tell you where to send him. I want
to see how bad this flooring is. I really want
to and if I got to get an expert over
there to check it out and figure out how we
can get it fixed. We got big Bear flooring, we
got Simply floors, we got people we can get this
handled through, and how much it's gonna do. But I
also want to understand really what we're looking at. It

(01:41:22):
sounds like this thing got sideways for multiple reasons, not
necessarily just the floor good, bad, or indifferent. Hold type.

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Speaker 5 (01:42:06):
All right three O three seven one three eight two
five five three oh three Martino did you get that
information from Laura Kelly?

Speaker 9 (01:42:15):
I did?

Speaker 3 (01:42:15):
I just it should be in your inbox the pictures
she had emailed them before to you apparently, so okay.

Speaker 5 (01:42:22):
I'll look at those. But did she give you the
contractor information?

Speaker 16 (01:42:25):
She did?

Speaker 7 (01:42:26):
And I also talk with him very briefly.

Speaker 3 (01:42:28):
Oh what did he say as hired a lawyer and
he's planning on putting a lean on the house and
he's not going to talk.

Speaker 5 (01:42:36):
So what did he sound like to you? Just you
know whatever? I know you only talked to him for
a minute. Was he being a schmuck or was he
being cool? Was he being forthright? As far as you're concerned.
In your opinion, I would.

Speaker 7 (01:42:47):
Say he was being very uh.

Speaker 3 (01:42:51):
Adamant about the fact he didn't want to talk about.

Speaker 5 (01:42:54):
Hook Kay, that's fair enough. Is that Laura still on too?
I saw a drop and come back let me know
if okay, well hold on, I'll check. Hey Laura's this
year or no, okay, hold on. We reached out to him.
He said he hired an attorney. What I do like
about this is you're ahead of the game. I wouldn't
be worried about the attorney right now. I'm gonna look

(01:43:14):
at those pictures over the break. Can you send me
a copy of the contract as well over this break? Yeah,
all right, send that over to Kelly's same email. I'm
gonna look at the pictures, Bill and Frank. You're up next.
Three oh three Martino, we got another hour to go
right here on the Troubleshooter Network.

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Speaker 6 (01:44:03):
Yeah, ripped.

Speaker 1 (01:44:10):
News need advice who you don't have?

Speaker 2 (01:44:16):
Come running just as fast as you can.

Speaker 4 (01:44:19):
Shooter is gonna help. Coming man.

Speaker 5 (01:44:23):
This is the Troubleshooter Show. No Toel Martinez. Welcome to
the show, the only show of it's kind. We're here
to solve problems, answer questions, take complaints. We've got a
lot cooking, but I've I got to dive into this.
I'm not going to do it in a political way,
but I want to at least tell people who this
school shooter was, at least according uh to the Gateway pundit,

(01:44:46):
Robert Westman, who actually had a it looks like a
legal name change. Robert Westman, transgender twenty three year old
I think it's seventeen, formally changed his name to Robin.
The application for a name change of a mind was
filled in by his mother, and the court granted the
request in twenty twenty. On his magazine and on his guns,

(01:45:07):
he had a lot of anti Trump things. In fact,
I'm looking at the barrel of the gun, I assume
this is one of the assault weapons that was used
kill Donald Trump. And of course just a wacko looking person,
I mean, just a total wacko. And the Minneapolis Catholic
school shooter has been identified. They got a manifesto apparently

(01:45:30):
that might be in Russian to mail. In his early twenties,
open fire on children as he attended mass at a school,
killing at least two children and injuring fourteen it's what
do you say. I mean, the guy apparently doesn't or
the girl whatever it is, apparently doesn't like Trump. So

(01:45:54):
I guess when you don't like someone you show up
at a Catholic school and shoot children, you know, from
the things fifty to one hundred shots.

Speaker 7 (01:46:04):
It's because that solves things.

Speaker 5 (01:46:06):
Mark, I just can't imagine. And people say these kind
of people are crazy. Well, okay, I mean, didn't we
have another shooter that was transgender? Not long ago? Am
I nuts here?

Speaker 12 (01:46:16):
No, we had quite a few. There's a whole bunch
of those.

Speaker 5 (01:46:18):
I think our Myra daughter Adeline was actually on the
jury for the Stem shooting down in Highland's Ranch, and
I'm pretty sure that was something along those lines. I mean,
it was years ago, I remember, But I mean, I
guess I don't understand how you talk about Trump derangement syndrome. Wow,
really think about this, doesn't like Trump shoots up at

(01:46:41):
Catholic school. There's pictures defend equality, the rifle reads. This
guy's got, you know, high magazine rounds. It's absolutely crazy.
You can see a lot of the videos. Of course,
YouTube took everything down really quick, I mean really quick.

(01:47:02):
But if you go to the gatewaypundit dot com. They
snagged all the video clips and stuff from YouTube and
you can see a lot of this stuff. Oh my goodness,
it's so disgusting looking at this stuff. His manifesto's up there,
this guy posted everything. I mean, how YouTube didn't even

(01:47:22):
figure out this guy was a possible serial killer? I
don't even know. And then you said you knew something
about this. One of the things it says in his manifesto,
apparently this is all allegedly, is so long. Dang it,
I went back, what.

Speaker 12 (01:47:39):
Is that here?

Speaker 5 (01:47:40):
It is so long?

Speaker 12 (01:47:40):
And thanks for all the fish?

Speaker 5 (01:47:41):
Yeah, so long, and thanks for all the fish. What
does that mean?

Speaker 18 (01:47:44):
You know?

Speaker 12 (01:47:44):
That's a quote from a really famous Douglas Adams novel
called The Hitchhiker's Guy to the Galaxy, which is a
very funny, lighthearted book and I really enjoyed reading it
when I was fourteen or fifteen.

Speaker 5 (01:47:56):
And I assume he meant like shooting fish in a
barrel or No.

Speaker 12 (01:47:59):
No, there's a lot more to it. It has absolutely
nothing to do with mass murder or destruction, nothing like that. No,
it's completely out of context. And this guy is just
absolutely crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:48:10):
Yeah, if this is him, and this is you know,
the New York Post confirmed the suspect's name. It's quite incredible.
I mean, we talked about once again Trump derangement syndrome.
I mean, this is really amazing to me. I mean,
the level is crazy. Why this person had all this
stuff on social media, with especially the stuff written on

(01:48:33):
the guns, and no one knew about it. It's just
it's almost hard to believe. I wonder if we'll find
out because it was Minneapolis, that maybe he has been
arrested and let go, no cash bail and all this
kind of stuff. I don't know.

Speaker 12 (01:48:46):
And how did he get access to guns and AMMO.

Speaker 5 (01:48:49):
Well they're twenty three.

Speaker 12 (01:48:50):
I assume, Oh, I see, I forgot about the age.

Speaker 5 (01:48:52):
Yeah, I mean I assume you can buy guns there.
Maybe not, I don't know. But of course the picture
of the guy in pigtail is quite a fetching. It's
just it's crazy. It's absolutely crazy. Anyhow, the gatewaypundit dot
com and someone sent me all this. It's a very

(01:49:13):
sad day. I mean, it's really crazy. And hey, a
nut is a nut is a nut. That's about as
nutty as I've ever heard. To go kill children I
hope he rots in hell. Apparently they're talking about he's
got targets with the picture of Jesus Christ's face on it,
So we can assume this guy's anti religious or maybe

(01:49:33):
a devil worshiper. I don't know, but he definitely is
not Christian. And let's let's hope he's in front of
those pearly gates right now on fire. Yeah, let's hope
he's burning in hell literally as we're talking. Because the
guy or the gal or it is a disgusting piece
of crap and it's quite crazy. And once again, this

(01:49:56):
is still just information people are sending me. I have
no idea the valid d of it, but it sure
sounds like this was the person. It absolutely positively does
now I digress. Wow, we're working on the one beyond
the scenes right to me. Sure you're gonna help that lady.

Speaker 12 (01:50:15):
The lady with the constructions effect. Yeah, yeah, I just
got that information. And I did speak with our caller
who has the dog pee raining down on his patio,
so he's going to follow through. I sent him the
link to the small claims instructions, so he's on it
like blue bonnet, and we agreed that he's going to
keep calling us with updates as this matter progresses.

Speaker 5 (01:50:34):
Okay, Frank's been holding a while. Frank, I think you
emailed me about a paving company. Is that correct?

Speaker 11 (01:50:41):
Hi, thanks for taking my call.

Speaker 5 (01:50:43):
Mark.

Speaker 20 (01:50:44):
Yes, yeah, I have an asphalt I have an asphalt
driveway that's thirty plus years old.

Speaker 6 (01:50:49):
We've had a seal.

Speaker 20 (01:50:50):
Coded a couple of times over the years. But you know,
that's like putting lipstick on a pig.

Speaker 8 (01:50:54):
So it is.

Speaker 20 (01:50:55):
We finally decided that it, you know, needs to be repaved.
But just a little uncomfortable, you know, not having a
good reference. Yeah, I know, we all we've all had
those guys pull up in the truck saying, you know,
we're in your neighborhood.

Speaker 5 (01:51:09):
Yeah, they happen to be next door.

Speaker 10 (01:51:12):
Exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:51:13):
You know, I live out kind of in the sticks too.
I had a guy show up at our house the
other day. You know, we've been there over ten years.
I could tell you I've had two people, one was
just last week, show up at our door. It's so
strange to knock on a door out there. I mean,
you're crazy. I mean, honestly, I think your nuts to
come out. But this guy did and he happened to

(01:51:34):
be in the neighborhood. He wasn't a paver, but he
happened to be in the neighborhood getting rid of voles
and one of our neighbor's pastures. And he's like, you
got a vole problem, we can do this. I'm like, no,
I don't have horses. I don't have voles. So but
it was so funny. It was the same deal. I'm
in the neighborhood. So next day, Frank, Suzanne and I
are coming home and this I think was yesterday, and

(01:51:57):
guess who's in another section of the neighborhood knocking on
someone else's doors that happens to still be in the neighborhood.
It's like, hey, geez, get out of here. So here's
what I need from our listeners. I don't have a
good ass Fholt guy that I know about, but talking
to you right now, I just thought of something. We
have an older couple that's lived in Franktown that's pretty

(01:52:18):
close to us. We pass our house and Suzanne's a runners,
so she's out running all the time and she's gotten
to meet the old couple and they've lived there forever.
In a day, and they just had their driveway repaved in.
It looks beautiful. And I assume they have lived there
for forty fifty years and probably have used the same
company over and over. So I'm going to make sure

(01:52:40):
to get you that information from them in the next day.
But if anybody out there, aren't you in Monument or
Lark Spurs somewhere like that, I'm in Monument in Monument.
If anybody is used, and I don't mean I don't
want to hear from the company themselves, but anybody that
is good asphalt guy, maybe even someone that's done your

(01:53:01):
restaurant in that neck of the woods or done your
driveway or anything but a good asphalt company, please call
into the show so we can get that information to Frank,
someone you know and you trusted or trust. And I've
reached out Frank to like a bunch of people I know,
like Genesis and then some other guys that do concrete.
No one knows a good asphalt guy that goes to Monument.

(01:53:23):
Genesis actually does know a good one, but they're up
in Fort Collins. He ain't going your way, period. End
of story. So let's see if anybody knows hold on
a second make sure we have his info. A good
asphalt guy somewhere in between the springs and say Castle Rocker.
At least they go to that territory. We would love

(01:53:43):
that information. You can email it at help at troubleshooter
dot com. Help at troubleshooter dot com, or you can
also call into the show. I do have one line
open now three Zho three Martino if you need one.
But if you're listening on a podcast or on YouTube later,
please email us and then Frank, I promise you I
will get Suzanne to get the information. I will get

(01:54:06):
you the information from the older couple I was talking about.
I promise. I promise Bill and Lee hold tight. We
got a problem with water damage and then you know what, Lee,
I know you called it before you got an issue
with your grandson. You'll be up pretty quick. Everybody, hold tight.
I promise I'll get to you.

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(01:56:23):
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Speaker 19 (01:56:24):
Bill?

Speaker 5 (01:56:24):
What's going on? What is this water damage?

Speaker 18 (01:56:26):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:56:27):
Bill, I am so sorry.

Speaker 8 (01:56:28):
Bill.

Speaker 5 (01:56:28):
I lied to you. Lee had to go. And then Lee,
what's going on with your grandson?

Speaker 10 (01:56:33):
Bill?

Speaker 5 (01:56:34):
I promise we'll get to that water damage?

Speaker 10 (01:56:36):
Lee?

Speaker 5 (01:56:40):
Hello? Lee? Is he sleeping?

Speaker 8 (01:56:43):
Lee? Lee?

Speaker 5 (01:56:46):
Okay? I gotta tell everybody a story real quick. This
actually happened exactly like that. One time we went to somebody.
It was a really older woman and literally you could
hear her snoring, and every time I went back to her,
she was still snoring. See if you can wake them up? Now, Bill,
I told you it would be quick. What's going on?

(01:57:06):
So hey, thank you, you're welcome.

Speaker 13 (01:57:08):
I am a contractor in the town south East, Colorado
and an owner of a donut shop. And I called
you about eight months ago about this. These these properties
are probably fifty foot wide by one hundred and twenty
feet deep. They're all side by side. Well, there's one property.

Speaker 10 (01:57:24):
That was vacant.

Speaker 13 (01:57:26):
It was like a parking area or whatever. The city
bought the property turned it into a gathering space. Well
one hundred feet of the property right against the donut shop.
They put planners and they put a concrete barrier around
it about thirty inches tall, filled it with dirt and
started irrigating it. And it's dirt up against the building

(01:57:50):
and it's now it's getting in and damaging the building.

Speaker 5 (01:57:53):
So it's actually getting into the Now is this after
an event? Is this after like massive rain or what
are we talking about?

Speaker 13 (01:58:00):
No, they irrigate, it's a there's a yeah, there's an
irrigation system in there, manifolds, sprinkler heads, drip system.

Speaker 5 (01:58:11):
So when you went, did you go to the city,
I mean, did you talk and what city are we
talking about?

Speaker 13 (01:58:18):
Say it one more time?

Speaker 5 (01:58:19):
What city are we talking about?

Speaker 13 (01:58:22):
Lamar, Colorado?

Speaker 5 (01:58:23):
So did you go to the council and Lamar and
say hey, what's up?

Speaker 13 (01:58:27):
The first thing I did is I called the park
and Wreck director. Okay, and he came over with two
employees and he was very apologetic. They mentioned that the
manifolds have been vandalized and that they flooded to the
top several times a week in the past month, and
they've got to try and figure out a solution. They're
just very It was like, all right, good, she wants

(01:58:49):
her bathrooms repaired, and I told her, I can't repair
your bathroom until we stopped this water from coming in.

Speaker 5 (01:58:54):
Yeah, of course. And then did they ever take care
of the leaking valves or whatever's going on there is?
That's still an issue.

Speaker 13 (01:59:02):
They they claimed governmental immunity and they had a couple
of them.

Speaker 12 (01:59:06):
Yes, but Bill, you skipped.

Speaker 5 (01:59:07):
Over, Bill, you skipped over an important question. Did they
ever solve the problem? I'm not talking about fixing her problem. No,
So right now it's still leaking into her building.

Speaker 13 (01:59:19):
Yes, yeah, the water they still irrigated.

Speaker 5 (01:59:21):
And they're not planning on doing anything about it.

Speaker 9 (01:59:25):
No.

Speaker 14 (01:59:26):
They said it's coming from the roof.

Speaker 13 (01:59:28):
The water damage.

Speaker 5 (01:59:29):
Okay, So they're they're not saying it has anything to
do with what they've done. I mean, that's that's what
they're saying, right, And How were you involved in this?

Speaker 2 (01:59:39):
She called me.

Speaker 13 (01:59:40):
She said, hey, Bill, look at these bathrooms. I want
them to be remodeled. They're both against the south wall.
So I walked in and said, oh, you've got you
got a water problem.

Speaker 6 (01:59:49):
But it's really odd.

Speaker 13 (01:59:50):
It's like it's from about hip high down to the floorboard.
And I looked in the girls bathrooms, same thing.

Speaker 11 (01:59:56):
I'm like, woof.

Speaker 13 (01:59:57):
She says, no, we have new plumbing. We don't have
any wa And I look down the dining area, same thing.
All the paneling works from about hip high down.

Speaker 5 (02:00:06):
Yeah, but it's still doing it. Are we sure that
at some point they didn't fix something and it's no
longer leaking. You're sure it's still leaking all the time.

Speaker 13 (02:00:16):
Oh, well they irrigate. Yeah, they irrigate the plants and
trees that are in those earth burms.

Speaker 5 (02:00:23):
I get what you're saying, but if they did it properly,
it still shouldn't get into a building.

Speaker 13 (02:00:31):
Well, they used what looks like ice and water shield,
which is a pretty cheap membrane, and the contractor building
it at the time said I'm not going to put
that in, so he was exempt from it, and the
city went ahead and did that stage of the construction.

Speaker 5 (02:00:47):
Well, I mean, this is it's kind of hard to
believe that it's still leaking.

Speaker 18 (02:00:52):
It.

Speaker 5 (02:00:53):
If it's still leaking, I don't even know where you
go with this. I mean, I guess the first thing
is does she have insurance? Does she have a com policy?
Can she go to her insurance company and they'll come
out and say, oh, yeah, it's.

Speaker 13 (02:01:04):
This insurance company and they agreed that it's that's where
it's probably coming from. Yeah, And then they dropped her
policy and she has new insurance now.

Speaker 5 (02:01:13):
Yeah, but did she put in a claim?

Speaker 13 (02:01:18):
I don't know that she was able to since they
dropped her. So now she's written a letter to the
city and said, hey, can you guys just stop the
water from touching my building?

Speaker 6 (02:01:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (02:01:29):
And they said if you haven't proven anything, and right
now it doesn't, it doesn't null the governmental immunity. So
if you can imagine, you have a stuff goed home
with brick and on the inside is drywall or paneling,
and ipile thirty inches of dirt up against it, and

(02:01:51):
I pour a concrete barrier around it, and I fill
the planter up with water.

Speaker 5 (02:01:57):
Well, built a couple of things here, man, I see
exactly what you're saying. But if they did do it,
and they did it properly, it shouldn't leak into the building.
I want to keep coming back to that, because you're
telling me the way they did it till this day
it's leaking in the building. I understand there's already damage there,
and I understand what they're saying. There might be damage here.

(02:02:17):
We might be responsible, but we have governmental immunity. All
that I get. I'm not sure where to go though,
if they're if the problems still going on right now.
In other words, if you go in there, redo the bathrooms,
redo the dry wall, redo everything needs to be done.
That got wet. You're saying it's still going to be
leaking the next day.

Speaker 13 (02:02:37):
Right, It'll probably take a little while to damage the
new framing and drywall that. Yeah, it'll it'll come back.

Speaker 6 (02:02:43):
It'll be that.

Speaker 5 (02:02:44):
So I don't know, does anybody have any ideas. I
don't know where you would go if those are the
facts of the case, because the problem still exists. They
haven't stopped the problem, right.

Speaker 13 (02:02:57):
So that's that's why I'm reaching out to you. How
do we how do we get them to get on
board to say hey, we'll we'll either put well, I.

Speaker 5 (02:03:03):
Want to hear, you know what I want. At a minimum,
I want to hear their side of the story because
I find it very hard and I don't know. I
haven't seen it. I don't know the case facts. But
what I do know is I would find it very
hard that if we call them up for them to say, yes,
it's still leaking. I know you've already said, they're going
to say it's coming from the roof, But there's got

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to be someone that can go out there and tell
where it's coming from. There has to be you might
have to hire I don't know, an engineer for all
I know, you might have to hire someone to prove it.
But if you're certain it's still coming from there, I
can't imagine they think it's coming from there whatsoever. So
it's at an impasse. So basically what she would have

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to do is literally hire an expert that can prove
the water's coming from the irrigation system, not the roof,
and I mean like a real expert, an engineer of
some sort.

Speaker 13 (02:03:59):
And any suggestions.

Speaker 5 (02:04:02):
I think the best thing if they're saying it's coming
from the roof, what I would do is get a roofer,
a very good roof are out there.

Speaker 13 (02:04:09):
She has a new roof.

Speaker 5 (02:04:11):
How old's the roof? Eight years? Okay?

Speaker 13 (02:04:16):
Well, I mean and we haven't had we went through
a period of three months of not a drop of rain.

Speaker 5 (02:04:25):
Bill, I understand where you're coming from, and I understand
where she's coming from.

Speaker 13 (02:04:29):
For next step would be just hire an engine to hire?
What about who would you hire?

Speaker 5 (02:04:36):
Anybody? Who would you hire?

Speaker 12 (02:04:38):
Well, there are plenty of people out there who work
as leak detectors. Yeah, and I actually met one of
them in a case I was working last fall. So
there are leak detection companies out there. That's the first
one that I would turn to. They're reasonably priced and
they're really good at doing what they do.

Speaker 5 (02:04:52):
You've got to have some AMMO to go to the
city manager or whoever you're dealing with with parks and
rec and say, look, we had this expert out. They're
saying the water's coming from here, and it's continuing to
come from here. You got to prove it to them.

Speaker 10 (02:05:05):
Now.

Speaker 5 (02:05:05):
I don't care about governmental immunity when it comes to
if they're still causing the problem, if they're literally still
causing the problem. They can't hide behind governmental immunity because
it's an ongoing problem. That's not a big deal. But
I don't think they're convinced on any in any world
that they're responsible for this. I think they're convinced it's

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something else. So therefore, you guys have to get an
outside expert to prove that it's not.

Speaker 13 (02:05:34):
Okay, So just simply get on Google and find an
elite detection company.

Speaker 5 (02:05:38):
What did you who's the one you dealt with?

Speaker 12 (02:05:41):
You know, while I don't have his name in front
of me, this guy who's very, very good. He's up
in Fort Collins and that's a day away from Lamar.
But I guarantee you there are people. I mean Carras Springs, Pueblo,
that's a huge market. There are probably a dozen leak
detectors over there.

Speaker 13 (02:05:56):
Yeah, okay, okay, that's going to be.

Speaker 10 (02:05:58):
The route we go.

Speaker 5 (02:05:59):
Yeah, I don't know where else to go. And then
if you can prove, if you send me a report
from an expert that says it's coming in from that
irrigation system that the city owns, we will then reach
out to whoever we need to at the city and
help you get it taken care of.

Speaker 12 (02:06:19):
Oh, we'll call the mayor at his home. If it
comes down to.

Speaker 5 (02:06:21):
That, go visit to mayor at his home. Okay.

Speaker 13 (02:06:25):
So this is the first step, and that's good. And
I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (02:06:30):
I told that.

Speaker 13 (02:06:30):
I told the owner that I would do that.

Speaker 5 (02:06:32):
So, Hey, how far real quick? How far is Lamar
from Colorado Springs?

Speaker 13 (02:06:38):
Three hours? If he drives therd?

Speaker 5 (02:06:40):
Okay, yeah, yeah, I hear you. All right, Okay, hold on, Bill,
make sure we have his information. I'd like to keep
his info and keep us abreast of the situation. Did
Lee wake up? Excellent?

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going on with your grandson?

Speaker 2 (02:08:39):
Lee?

Speaker 10 (02:08:40):
All right? He lives in apartment complex and they don't
want to renew his lease, which is okay because he
has a you know, mental visibility. But in the meantime
of that, he had lost his fob and they will
not give him one to get back in, so he
has to sit outside, oh Man, or in the park somewhere.

Speaker 5 (02:09:02):
Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait Lee, you totally
threw me off there. So you have a grandson and
he was in it. He was in an apartment. How
long was he there?

Speaker 10 (02:09:13):
No, he's still there.

Speaker 5 (02:09:14):
He's still there.

Speaker 10 (02:09:15):
He's still there. Yeah, they don't want to renew it.
Leads with that's okay, But in the meantime he hadn't
got no notice or nothing. He lost his fob to
get in, and he can't get.

Speaker 7 (02:09:26):
In play Adeline has Mark a fop, but I wonder
if it's because they want him to pay for the fop.

Speaker 5 (02:09:31):
Yeah, why can't Why won't they give him a fob
and let him in?

Speaker 10 (02:09:36):
That's more John's figure on because he had a flood
in the apartment.

Speaker 5 (02:09:41):
Where's it?

Speaker 16 (02:09:41):
Wait?

Speaker 5 (02:09:41):
Wait? Wait, where is this apartment?

Speaker 10 (02:09:46):
It is gonna best the apartment, me ast y.

Speaker 5 (02:09:50):
Where is it though? Denver?

Speaker 6 (02:09:51):
Where?

Speaker 10 (02:09:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (02:09:54):
Are they not letting him in. You mentioned he had
he had a flood in his apartment. Are they not
letting him in because of the flood.

Speaker 10 (02:10:04):
Like a couple of months ago?

Speaker 5 (02:10:05):
Is it inhabitable? Did they deem it inhabitable?

Speaker 10 (02:10:10):
I think they should, but no, they didn't.

Speaker 5 (02:10:13):
We need but they didn't give him another apartment. So
the apartment flooded and they didn't give him another place
to live. Why did it flood, they.

Speaker 10 (02:10:23):
Said them the water ran over in the tub. Okay.

Speaker 5 (02:10:27):
And also with that date, Hey, Lee, if I talk
to you, if if I have someone talk to your grandkid,
I mean, when you said he's disabled, what are we
What am I up against here?

Speaker 2 (02:10:38):
Like?

Speaker 5 (02:10:38):
Is he a third grader or what?

Speaker 8 (02:10:41):
No?

Speaker 10 (02:10:41):
No, no, no psychosis?

Speaker 7 (02:10:46):
H Okay, I wonder about I'm just thinking maybe Deputy
bow for this because they're flooding and what the.

Speaker 5 (02:10:58):
Lee I get. I understand and everything except for nothing.
I don't understand why they wouldn't give him a FOB
unless it's been deemed inhabitable, and therefore, I don't understand
why he doesn't have another apartment if he's still under
the lease and has never been evicted. But you don't
have the answers to these questions. But if we talk

(02:11:19):
to him, he's not going to be able to help
us either, is he.

Speaker 10 (02:11:22):
I do have an answer to the question, and he
still lives in the apartment.

Speaker 5 (02:11:27):
So what did the flooding have to do with any
part of the conversation?

Speaker 10 (02:11:33):
They're going to damaged in the place. No one there
other night, All right, we need Bo.

Speaker 5 (02:11:38):
I want bo to reach out. Yes, so hold on,
That's exactly what we're going to do. It's exactly what
we're gonna do. Deputy Bow get Lee's information. This guy
held forever. Grab his information. We're going to have Deputy
Bow reach out to him, figure out what this apartment was,
and figure out how to go forward. I mean, if
we've got to get the city involved or whatever, we'll

(02:11:59):
do it. But if everything is up and up from
what Lee's saying, you can't simply not give someone a
key to get in their apartment. You got to go
through what's called eviction. And I find it hard to
believe they'd be doing this to someone that's mentally challenged.
And I didn't even understand that part. Did he say psychosis?

Speaker 6 (02:12:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (02:12:16):
He did, Like literally, he can't talk and he's sitting
out front.

Speaker 12 (02:12:20):
Yeah, and I think the actual issue is that his
grandson lost the FOB. I get that, and they won't
replace it. Why Well, yeah, I think that's really the
only question.

Speaker 5 (02:12:30):
Well, I don't well, and what Lee is saying is
they won't replace it because they don't want him going
into the apartment, right, but which you can't do.

Speaker 12 (02:12:37):
Yeah, I mean he's still if he's if the LISA
is still active, and if he's paying his rent and
they didn't get an eviction order, then he should be
able to go back.

Speaker 5 (02:12:45):
So Kelly, listen, she's talking to Lee Dragon. Make sure
she understands this. I need Lee's number, and we need
the information where this apartment was. And Bo, if you're listening,
I'd love to get an update for the morning on this.
I mean, there's got to be more to this, because
if there isn't, there's going to be people in big
ass trouble.

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