The Troubleshooter 8-30-24

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Ripped off.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
News need advice, so you don't have.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
Come running.

Speaker 4 (00:13):
Just as as as we can, Shooter's gonna help come
MANX is the Troubleshooter Show.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
No Tom Martino, Hi, Tom Martino here, Welcome.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
To the show. Today is car Day, but that.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Doesn't mean we only talk about cars, and we have
experts standing by. Although we have no experts in house. Today,
we have Deputy Day. I have all four of my
deputy's in house, which means extra pizza. Then we have
Shannon at the controls, and we have Loopy Kachina Calori

(00:55):
taking your calls and producing the show.

Speaker 5 (00:58):
And Tom is actually paying for the pizza.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Hold on, why am I Loopy?

Speaker 5 (01:02):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:03):
I don't want to get into that right now. Oh okay,
I'm not sure we can.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Actually we can.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Mimosash one oh Dragon said one. Okay, okay, I guess
I guess those empty glasses were for show?

Speaker 2 (01:23):
What he said you had four? What for mimosas?

Speaker 6 (01:28):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (01:29):
Yeah, like I could function on four mimosas three h three.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Seven one three talk. You know.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
I got a drunk call once from Kelly.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
I won't I won't.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Get into it. It was a long it was funny.
It was actually funny. Oh you see, she don't even
remember it? What okay, Kelly, I won't talk about it.
Chen and YouTube says, no sense. Have you ever made
a drunk call or a drunk text? Have you ever
done that and then regretted? It happens? You know, seriously
there it's a thing, a drunk call. You get drunk,

(02:02):
you think of a friend say oh oh you know,
or you text an old flame or something. I've never
done that, but I hear about it. By the way, morons,
how you doing? I see the morons are up and
they're climbing in numbers.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
YouTube.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
It's referral List, by the way, on YouTube. I have
a channel, but I don't post on that channel. The Troubleshooter.
What we do is we go to the Troubleshooter Show
live and it's on referral List YouTube and again, welcome morons.
Let me put my welcome on there. And then also
we have Facebook, flunkies, but I don't know. Facebook is

(02:41):
for old people. I'm told David has a problem. Oh no, actually,
wa wait a minute, get my dinger ready. He's got
good news, he said, what's happening, David? Is this from
a previous call.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yes, Tom, how are you today? Good? How long ago
did you call? David?

Speaker 1 (02:59):
I think it was uh, I think it was three
weeks ago. My wife thinks.

Speaker 8 (03:03):
It was three weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
I'm looking.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
You're not a rental that I had obtained a rental
car in Houston, Texas on a.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Two days where it was it in Florida?

Speaker 1 (03:14):
No, I live in Florida, but I was And it.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Was six Oh, it was si XT. The rental car
company was called.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Sixth That's that's correct.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
And you sent us picks and they assessed you damages
for regular little, tiny, tiny road rash that every car
in the world has. And how could they possibly say
you did all of those in one rental and not
only that charge you for it. I'm positive that this

(03:47):
is a scam. And we had other calls since then
from Sixth and what what happened?

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Really?

Speaker 1 (03:55):
So that's interesting that you've had other calls.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yeah, since your call, we had others.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Wow, Okay, So anyhow, I wrote them a letter saying
I'm disputing their allegations that I did this damage and
so on, and I did point out to them, I said,
if you notice that the two headlights they have similar
marks on either side, not on the vertical panel, but
on a horizontal area. I said, it looks to me
like it was a car washing issue or something like that.

(04:25):
It's so small you'd never notice it. And they wanted
to charge one thousand, three hundred and seventy one dollars
for all the little blanshes. Yeah, yeah, whatever. And so
the other day I got a letter from them saying that,
dear madam or sir, we're writing to inform you that
sixth a car rental agency, has decided to close the

(04:46):
file and will no longer pursue financially for the damages
to the guy.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
So they're giving up the ghost.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
They're giving up the ghosts. They apologize for any inconvenience.

Speaker 9 (04:57):
Would like to think, Wow, wow, are we allowed to
give callers a dinger he needs?

Speaker 2 (05:03):
I think they heard about it on the show.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
I told people to call them, and I kept giving
out the name and numbers. So let's do the dinger
for everyone involved the caller the show.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Do it.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Channon, thank you very much too. So really that's good news.
I appreciate that. David. Now you can have success as well.
All you have to do is call us with a problem.
Now not I can't help everyone, and uh sometimes I can,
sometimes I can, depends on the problem. So what's on

(05:34):
your mind today? Give us a call three oh three,
seven to one three talk three oh three, seven to one,
three eight two five five.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
I'm going to tell you what's on my mind.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Two more apartment buildings have been taken over by gangs.
Venezuelan street. Gangs are having their way with our law enforcement,
our governor, our mayors.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
It is amazing. It's just amazing.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
So add to shoplifting and smashing grabs. Now add to
it seizing personal property, going door to door collecting rent
or kicking people out of their apartments illegally. How can
that happen? Well, in Colorado, it's pretty easy. And in California.

(06:28):
You know, here's what's weird. Both of those those states
are a mirror of each other. That's because Polis, I
think secretly admires Newsom and wants to be just like him.
He doesn't quite have the hair, but he has everything else.
I think that I think there's a little bromance going

(06:51):
on there.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
I think he thinks that this.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Guy is just fabulous, so he copies everything that happens
in California.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Have you noticed that?

Speaker 3 (07:03):
If we want to know what's going to happen in Colorado,
look at California.

Speaker 5 (07:08):
Look so we're gonna go bankrupt too, Tom.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
California's not bankrupt, But a lot of people are leaving
California and a lot of people are going.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
To leave Colorado. A lot of people are leaving Colorado.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
But I mean it's going to get to a point
where more people are leaving that are coming in. But
I mean, why is law enforcement letting this happen?

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Why? Why?

Speaker 3 (07:37):
I mean it's private property being seized by gangsters.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Why is that happening? And what message is that sending?

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Well?

Speaker 10 (07:44):
I don't understand is the mayor of Aurora is a
lawn order guye.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
You know what?

Speaker 3 (07:51):
I don't understand it at all. And no local media
have you noticed it? No local media is covering No,
I haven't. Has anyone seen it on local media? You
won't see it on nine DNC news that's Democratic National Headquarters.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
It went viral. What it went viral? But did nine
News cover it? I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
You won't see it, But you don't see what's that.

Speaker 7 (08:20):
Fox News covered it, CNN covered it. Yeah, it literally
went national.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yeah, I don't think you'll see it though in Denver.
You won't see it in Denver. Let's see, I'm on
nine news website.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Is there one? Well?

Speaker 3 (08:35):
Actually no, no, no, no, hold on, there's I gotta
be fair here.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Nine news dot com.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
Aurora Mayor Mike Coffin and Denver Mayor Mike Johnson respond
to concerns about Venezuelan gangs after a video at a
Roar apartment complex circulated online. See they didn't see that's
a sneaky way of covering it. They're covering a reaction.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
But they did.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
They never told us about the situation. Let's see what
it says here. A video showing people carrying guns in
the hallway of Aurora apartment complex is making rounds on
social media. And listen to this and conservative media outlets
with the narrative that the Venezuelan gang is taking over
the building.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Do you notice they made it.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
They diminished it right there, saying it's conservative media outlets
making the case that the Venezuelan gang is doing it.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Wow, oh, this is why they're covering it. Nine News.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
The Democratic National Committee is saying, Mike Kaufman and Mike
Johnson said the situation is being exaggerated by the way
Tom Yes.

Speaker 7 (09:46):
Dan Kaplis is actually going to have Mike Kaufman on
today in studio.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Good good to know that a former tenant shared a
video of people carrying guns. Police have had this video
for days and they have not said it shows members
of the gang. See nine is an apologetic news organization.
They haven't angled their local CNN. I swear to god,

(10:15):
I have never seen more blatant bull crap in my life.
Kaufman acknowledged that the residents of two or three apartment
buildings are being intimidated by a Venezuelan gang, but said
Aurora police are handling the situation and making arrests. Police
said gang activity is isolated. Denver and Aurora leaders have

(10:40):
said for weeks that trend drgoa however you pronounce it
is in both cities, and that police are working to
determine the extent of their operations. I'm reading from nine
News the Democratic National Committee Thursday, after twenty four hours

(11:00):
of intense national media coverage, Coffin and Johnson said the
exaggerated and inaccurate news coverage is creating new risks it's
overwhelming our nine to one to one system.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
See this is why nine is now covering it.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
They didn't cover it as a news story because they're
gonna deny it, like they denied the Hunter laptop story,
and how they deny everything against their narrative and during COVID.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
I mean, nine News has become a.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
Piece of trash. It wasn't organized and it had some
detrimental effects. Oh that's all it is. I hope Dan
really really holds his feet to the fire and then
somehow that was gang activity. The fet the threat from

(11:51):
TDA in Denver is smaller than many other criminal networks.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
So see nine news diminishing this.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
Don't worry, folks, they're only taking over one building or
it's exaggerated.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Hold on. I think both sides are in for a
new awakening. Johnson said.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
The folks that came here looking for the American dream
will find it. But those who came looking for chaos,
I think they will have their worst nightmare. That's good,
that's good. I mean all talk though, and of course
they would appear on nine News because that is their narrative.
It's you know, and here's what's really funny. I swear

(12:34):
to God they will deny it, deny it, deny it,
that their coverage is slanted. Yet every single person in
the world cannot look at nine News and say that
it's unbiased news.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Ever, Ever, the.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Closest to independent news you get here in town is
Fox thirty one, Channel four, somewhere in between goes back
and forth.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Channel seven. I don't even know where channels is.

Speaker 10 (13:00):
One of our morons said that CBS Channel four has
had the story on from the Penny for the past
three days.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
Good, I mean, are they covering it accurately? Let me
look at him?

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Are they?

Speaker 5 (13:13):
I didn't look at it, just I just relayed the message.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Let's see, let's see. I mean, I guess I had
a look before I criticized him.

Speaker 10 (13:21):
You know, one of my friends had his house robbed
by a professional Venezuelan gang for over one hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
How do you know it was? How do they know?

Speaker 10 (13:31):
Because they left the house and the only way they
could have gotten in was through the highline canal, so
they crossed town. Gang well because the cops holdman probably was,
but they were so professional that they use they were
able to get rid of the alarm system, they crossed

(13:51):
the canal and actually had booties on, so they didn't
bring any money into the house so it couldn't be tracked, and.

Speaker 5 (13:57):
All sorts of other things that pointed professional with Jay.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
What do you have to say?

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Jay?

Speaker 2 (14:02):
I know I got to take a break. What do
you have to say, Jay?

Speaker 11 (14:05):
Oh, you might want to wait till after the break.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
If you got all right, I will hold on. We'll
come right back.

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your troubleshooter three oh three seven to one three eight
two five five. Well we talked about this Venezuela and

(15:00):
gang happening. Nine News diminishes it in their story. Of course,
along with the politicians, they're carrying the narrative that is
exaggerated and that it's not really happening, and that conservative
conservative news outlets are the ones really spreading this false story.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Jay, what's your comment?

Speaker 5 (15:28):
Thanks Tom, because this goes back aways.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
I was absolutely called a liar, screamed at, and hung
up by one of the top.

Speaker 11 (15:36):
Show hosts on your station. When I said, I simply
was quoting a friend of mine, and he is, in fact,
and still is in fact, a deputy sheriff for Jefferson County.
We were talking about how bad Aurora had gotten. It's terrible,
it's beyond that. And he and I were talking and

(15:56):
he said, you know, they're gang problems so bad, there's
the death of these gangs. And I was speaking with
your top show host on that passion there of yours,
and he called me a liar.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Well, I can't, I can't, Okay, I can't go back
and talk about what they do on their show or.

Speaker 11 (16:13):
How Now, So now it's coming up that very top
show host has to talk to the mayor after calling
me a damn liar, hanging up on me, yelling at me,
and the gangs are absolutely taken over. I want to
hear this force and you can't even imagine.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Okay, so you were hung up on well.

Speaker 6 (16:34):
It's horrible.

Speaker 11 (16:35):
Look what's going on is really bad and people.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
Mean but I understand that. But here's what happens in
the news media. I'm just going to tell you what happens.
There are some news media that will exacerbate and and
and well they amplify what's going on if it looks
bad for liberals and progress. Its very few, but they're

(17:03):
you know, mostly Fox, and I think Fox thirty one
locally is owned by.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
A conservative group.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
I forget what anyway, and I'm not saying that they're
told to do it, but they just gravitate that way.
And then you have the other news media, and they
tend to exaggerate and amplify stories that make conservatives look bad.

(17:29):
It's back and forth. I swear to you, it's back
and forth. They each have their own narrative. If you
look at the reporting about the Kamala Harris interview on CNN,
you would think she's the second Coming. She's a female Christ,
she is going to heal everything in the world, and

(17:52):
she has momentum now and she's talking about issues and
she is going to save America and turn the page.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
If you look at Fox.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
And a few others and listen to conservative talk radio,
you will swear to God she was a bumbling idiot
and couldn't put a sentence together. Neither one of those
two things are true. But somehow we don't. We don't
know how to filter.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
We don't.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
We pick a side and we stick to it, and
then we go for what we call confirmation bias. We
only gravitate toward people and news and reports that tend
to support our position.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
That's the way we do it. That's just life.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
But I swear to God, I mean, by the way,
CBS four did a much better job reporting on this
Venezuelan street game and the previous stories than nine News.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
I don't know why. Here, here's what I believe.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
There's nothing wrong with a private news organization or a
private I'm not even gonna call them news, a media outlet.
There's nothing wrong with a media outlet wanting to push
their agenda, nothing wrong at all, but they should be
upfront about it. Nine News masquerades as journalism.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
It's not it's not.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
Oh, some of their stories are, by the way, some
of their stories do pretty good. Other consumer kid he's
he's a good kid. He does good stories. And they
do other stories about you know, like fires and murders
and crime.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
They'll they'll do that.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
But if the stories get anywhere near political, they take
a side. Look at their coverage and tell me I'm wrong.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
You know.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
They like bragging about there. You know how big they
are and how they're number one the ratings and.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
All of that.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
But here's the deal. They are one sided. I don't
care what you say. And then other outlets are one
sided in other ways. That's that's just life. We're not
going to have unbiased reporting anymore. We're never It's never
gonna happen again. That's my prediction. It will never happen again.

(20:08):
When I tell you, I, honest to God, don't care
about any narrative whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
I don't care.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
I just want to talk about things happening. I mean
it now. I'm not news obviously, you know, and I
don't purport to be. I'm an advocate. I go out
and I pick people to help I I like to
put it this way. I unbiasedly collect information and then

(20:36):
I decide who side I'm going to be on.

Speaker 5 (20:42):
Now.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
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Speaker 2 (22:22):
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Speaker 3 (22:24):
Okay, let's talk about your life, liberty, and the pursuit
of happiness. First, I want to talk about the worst cars.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
Consumer Reports and other consumer agencies, including market research companies
like a mourning consultant and things like that. What they
do is take sentiment of people who own cars, and
they come up with a list of uh reliable cars

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and cars that people hate and the worst cars and
the best cars and the reliability concerns have been published
all over the place and they range from luxury cars
to mainstream car makers.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Ford and Chevrolet.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
Have basically the worst record, unfortunately so, but BMW, Honda, Subaru, Toyota.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Not on the list of ugly hateful cars.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Now according to Consumer Reports, the worst scores where the
twenty twenty one PACIFICA It's a hybrid A Chrysler Pacifica,
the twenty twenty one Jeep Wrangler and the twenty twenty
three Nissan Frontier or the twenty twenty two guess what

(24:07):
Rivian and the twenty twenty one Volkswagen Jetta. See, they
get absolutely right down to the specific years. So evs
are considered in general by consumers less reliable.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
That's what people feel now.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Again, I don't know if they are, but the consumer
sentiment is that they are less reliable.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
I feel exactly the opposite. Now.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
I don't own one, but I don't now well, actually
I do own one. My son I got him one,
and that car there's nothing to do to it. I mean,
there's actually not even any regular service intervals. Doc, you
just bought one, so you're kind of new. My what

(25:01):
are your services like, Hynda? It's nothing just ten year,
ten thousand. It's a ten year, one hundred thousand mile
warranty on the battery and there's really nothing else that
can go wrong except maybe breaks, which apparently we're down
a little bit faster because of the weight of the car.
But it says not a defect, it's just a routine maintenance. Now,

(25:25):
according to consumer reports and their surveys. Now, remember, surveys
are as accurate as people report. I don't think people
lie on surveys, but I also think surveys tend to
be responded to mostly by people with an axe to
grind or they want to be heard normally, really truly,

(25:48):
if in fact, you do not have a beef and
you love something, you actually are less likely to respond
to surveys because you have no concerns the wait, let's
just talk to Steve and I'll go back to this. Steve,
what's going on with you?

Speaker 6 (26:05):
Tea?

Speaker 12 (26:05):
I was just well, I've got a little issue.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Don't you help me with some that is?

Speaker 12 (26:09):
I just got a call from a collection agency and
pertaining to a date of service back in October of
twenty twenty, and it appears that it's some doctors group
acute care partners. I never received any invoices or any
communication for anybody.

Speaker 13 (26:27):
They just went street to collections.

Speaker 14 (26:29):
I'm wondering, if I want to ask a few questions,
is it a legit bill that I don't know you have?

Speaker 3 (26:36):
No, you don't recognize the bill at all. Ever, that
you never went to the provider.

Speaker 14 (26:43):
As far as I know, back in October twenty. I
don't remember ever going to provide this was October. It's
a bill from four years ago. October you said, of
twenty twenty, correct, okay?

Speaker 2 (26:57):
And what is it for? What in a service?

Speaker 12 (27:03):
It doesn't the invoys from the collection company, doesn't state
what it was for, doesn't give me any details, doesn't
show me any eob information.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
Okay.

Speaker 12 (27:12):
It just says U fifty dollars.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
I looked at it and they don't say what it's for.
There's no information whatsoever. Have you contacted them.

Speaker 12 (27:22):
Well, they got they actually got me on the phone yesterday.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
And what did and did you ask for specifics? I
sure did and what did they say?

Speaker 12 (27:33):
And the collection company said, we don't will have to
get that information.

Speaker 5 (27:36):
We don't have it available.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
Now they have to give you documentation. They may not
like it, but they have to now. If they don't,
they might say something like this, we'll see you in
court or we'll just collect it. But remember they can't
collect a dime until they take you to court. No
one can collect a dime from you. They have to
get a judgment. So the good news is you're going

(28:01):
to find out what it is and if it's legit
or not, and if it's not, it's going to go away.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
That's the good news.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
So if it's a medical bill and it just surface
from a collection agency, they don't have to notify you
that it's going to collections. They don't technically even have
to collect from you. If you have a bill doing
owing and your insurance didn't pay it, or and you're
responsible for it, you just have to be notified once,

(28:31):
just once, and that notification could be, you know, given
to you at the doctor's office. Even but people are
under the false impression that they need to have multiple
warnings or warnings before it goes to collection.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
In essence, collection is your warning.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
Now what I'm saying is you know whether you were
warned or not doesn't matter, So forget that as your defense.
And what I would strive to do is get documentation.
And the way I approach these is very simple. I say, listen,
I believe in paying all my legitimate debts. Simply let

(29:11):
me know what this is. It may have it may
have gone under the radar. I doubt it, but I'd
like to see it and I'd be happy to.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Pay it if it's legit. Any good collection agency will
cooperate with that, and if not, it's not legit. Okay.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
If they don't give you a documentation, simply ignore it.

Speaker 5 (29:38):
Okay.

Speaker 12 (29:40):
What about the requirements for timely filing with the insurance
and it's clearly passed you that if they.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Don't have a requirement, they don't have a requirement to
do anything you do.

Speaker 12 (29:50):
No, No, the provider accept that the insurance is a
form of payment, and then there's a contractual agreement there
that they'll file it.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Listen, so many days, where where where is that agreement?

Speaker 3 (30:03):
You actually have an agreement because you said you didn't
even know what it was.

Speaker 12 (30:07):
So well, most most most providers have you know, if
they accept insurance, they have a contract with that insurance
to accept certain rates for certain services and timely filing
and all those I.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Listen, here's what I'm saying. Listen carefully.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
This is really important if a provider decides to take
it on the filing. Accepting and filing are two different things.
When they have a contract to accept the insurance coverage
and the approved amounts, they are not taking on the
obligation to file it correctly for you.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
They will only do that if they tell you they're
going to do that.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
And if they tell you they're going to do that,
then obviously they should do it.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
But you're you're confusing things.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
An insurance company doesn't say to them, if you take
my cover bridge, you.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Must do this, this, and this.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
All they say is this, here's the approved amount for
the procedure. Now, consumers can put in their own claims.

Speaker 10 (31:11):
But you can't balance tho. In other words, if a
procedure normally costs US, say five hundred dollars, and you
have an insurance such a through Medicare, and at page
two hundred and eighty, the doctor cannot bill you another
two hundred and twenty.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
They can't balance bill.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
They can't if they can't balance bill if they have
a contract with the coverage except for Medicare, they can
never do it in Medicare. But when it comes to
United Healthcare, if they don't have a contract with United
Healthcare at all and you go to them, they can
hold you responsible for one hundred percent of it. But

(31:48):
if you're asking, what if I end up owing the
money and now it's too late for me to put
it through my insurance.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
That could be a problem.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
Then you'd have to go back and re search why
it wasn't submitted and whose responsibility it was. Don't automatically
assume it was their responsibility. Go with a sure thing
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as a transmission issue, we may have to get Kevin online.
Kevin couldn't make it to the studio, but he's standing by.

(33:27):
He's at his shop today. Go ahead, and so is
Jeff Pick. I believe Gary. What's going on, Jeers?

Speaker 15 (33:36):
I'm calling in regards to a twenty ten Kia Sorrento.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
What's going on at.

Speaker 15 (33:44):
Under a heart acceleration between first and second gear? Italy
emit a white smoke out of the tailpipe for maybe
five or ten seconds and then clears up.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Yes, yes, yes, question is what it sounds? Okay?

Speaker 3 (34:03):
It sounds like obviously, and it's only under load right correct?
All right, We're gonna get our expert on. I want
you to hang on. Okay, let's get Kevin Caulkin on
a Kachina or Jeff Pick or one of our experts,
or we can get our smarts Wise Alex Wise guys
from the springs. We got great guys down there as well,

(34:23):
so stay tuned for that and more. I'm Tom Martinez
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Speaker 16 (35:22):
This is the Troubleshooter Show.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
No Tom Martino, Hi, Tom Martino, You're troubleshooter. Three oh
three seven one three talk THREELL three seven one three.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Eight two five five. Welcome to the show.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
What is happening in your life? How can we help you?
We'll get right to the phones now. On reliability studies
for cars I was going to get to there are
a lot of them on the non reliable scale, according
to consumer reports and other consumer.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Agencies and surveys. Audies have won two three four entries,
the eight, the A three, the A six, the Q
three and the E Tron. Buick has the encorees. Cadillac
has the XT four.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
These are dissatisfaction among general dissatisfaction among owners are a
majority or let's just say bad ratings. How about Chevrolet Blazer, Bolt, Cruise, Malibu, Subaru,
Tahoe Traverse, the Chrysler Pacific Hybrid, Town and Country Dodge,

(36:32):
the Grand Caravan Ford, the Escape, the Escape Hydrid Hybrid,
the Explorer of the Expedition, the F one fifty Hybrid,
the F two fifty, the Mustang GMC Arcadia, Akadia I
mean Yukon, Yukon Excel, Hyundai's the Ionic, the Kona Electric,

(37:00):
the Santa Fe, Sport, Sonata and Tucson.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
With Jeep. Basically just says the Cherokee, Gladiator, Grand Cherokee
and Wrangler, the Griffin. What's that I have? Oh? You
do good?

Speaker 3 (37:17):
With the Kiya you have Nero and Soul Mas has
a c X nine on it. These are bad cars
or bad satisfaction ratings. Mercedes spends the C class. Do
they give the years, Tom because.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Yeah, they give, they give years.

Speaker 11 (37:31):
They do.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
I just didn't go through. All of them are really
recent years.

Speaker 5 (37:35):
Mike ConA was twenty twenty one, not the new ones.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
You got a twenty twenty one dissatisfaction?

Speaker 5 (37:43):
Was it the twenty Oh.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Yeah, you're right, you're right, not the one I bore.
Most of these are twenty threes. Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
I should give years. The Rivian for example, the twenty
twenty two, the Tesla mode less they say, basically from
nineteen to twenty one, the X from eighteen twenty two. Anyway,
you can find these at MSN dot com as well.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Summed up three oh three seven one three. Talk Gary,
what's going on with you? Hello? Gary?

Speaker 3 (38:12):
I have Griffin with me, and Griffin ashes from Colorado
Spring seas from action, I believe, and so let's talk
Gary about your problem. Griffin's listening.

Speaker 15 (38:27):
Okay, it's a twenty ten Kia Sorrento.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Twenty ten Kia Sorrento.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
Got it, and it emits you say it emits black smoke?

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Right?

Speaker 15 (38:38):
Oh no, it's white smoke.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
I mean that's what I meant, white smoke when it's
underload of acceleration. Correct Now, from what I can find out,
that's could be oil leaking into the combustion chamber or
even coolant.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
What do you think, Griffin?

Speaker 17 (38:55):
Yeah, so if I'm not mistaken, Kia Hundai had the
kind of had a massive problem with engines on on
those on that model on those model years. It was,
it was over a period of years. I'm looking up
some information right now. Is it does it have any
lack of power or anything? Or does it drive good?

(39:15):
Just put that a lot of smoke?

Speaker 15 (39:17):
No, that drives fine. There's no indication of any problem
other than the smoke.

Speaker 17 (39:24):
Okay. And what kind of Kia was that?

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Sorrento I believe, right, Sorrento, Yeah, Sorrento.

Speaker 17 (39:29):
Oh yeah yeah, if it's he said it's a twenty ten.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Yeah, yes, yeah.

Speaker 17 (39:39):
I'm not seeing an option for that here in my
in my system.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
So that but in general, in general, what is it?
In general? Is it an oil leak or a coolant leak?

Speaker 17 (39:50):
Yeah? So if it's white smoke, you know, be indicative
that you're you're burning Coolant's like maybe you have a
head gasket failure, and so a vehicle can run fine
as a head gasket is failing and blow a bunch
of white smoke out. Blue smoke would be an indication
of burning oil.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Okay, yes, so how.

Speaker 17 (40:10):
Is your coolant level?

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Have you.

Speaker 17 (40:11):
Have you noticed that you're having to fill it up
or is it going down?

Speaker 15 (40:16):
No, there's been no problem on that. It has been
known to use oil between oil chains.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
How much oil.

Speaker 15 (40:25):
Probably a quart in five thousand miles.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
That's not a lot, is it.

Speaker 17 (40:32):
No, it's that's fine. But what I the reason I
wanted to do with the exact car is because I
wanted to see if there was a technical service bulletin
for it and and see if if you had to
path forward there because they were warrantying these engines and
people were they're getting a whole engine replacements from Kia.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
Yeah, but I don't believe they went back that far
to twenty ten. Yeah.

Speaker 15 (40:54):
I may be wrong on the year. It maybe at
twenty and eleven.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Yeah. I bet they're not going to go back more
than you go back that far.

Speaker 17 (41:02):
It's over ten years. Yeah, I would. What I would
do is have you actually looked at the at the coolants,
not just the reservoir, but actually opened the cap and
looked inside to see if if your coolant level is low.

Speaker 15 (41:15):
No, I've not done that. I've always looked at the
reservoir to this point.

Speaker 17 (41:20):
Okay, Well, that's a good indication there, but nothing else
is jumping out at me with with.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
But emitting smoke of any kind is not normal. Can
we say that?

Speaker 17 (41:32):
Well, yeah, and you're just trying to figure out where.

Speaker 5 (41:35):
It's coming from.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Yeah, and it's.

Speaker 17 (41:36):
Coming out the exhaust right.

Speaker 15 (41:39):
Correct kind of startup or just want to heart accelerate?

Speaker 17 (41:47):
Huh? Yeah, that that seems like that seems like it
could be a head gasket issue, as when it's underload,
it's working harder. That's in the coolant's really escaping through
where that head gasket may be split and burning off.
So that's you know, in any shop can run it's
called a block test to go ahead and check if
there's combustion fumes in the cooling system.

Speaker 12 (42:11):
Ah, all right.

Speaker 17 (42:12):
They want to tell that you want to get the
shop as much information without overwhelming them as possible, so
let them know, hey, this is when it does it.
That way, they can try to mimic that would that throw.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
A code of any kind with that old of a
car and that that symptom would that throw a code?

Speaker 17 (42:29):
Well, so codes go all the way back to you know,
the eighties actually, but they became standardized in nineteen ninety six.
So yes, it would have a code if it was
if it had a driveability problem, it will set a code.
Are you having any codes or any lights? Pop on?

Speaker 15 (42:44):
Nothing coming up on the dash. But I have not
actually had the computer checked as to fit storing any codes.

Speaker 17 (42:52):
Yeah, so typically it's only going to store a code
once it's set a code, unless it has an option
for a pending.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
I don't know if it does well, Gary, where are
you located, Littleton? We just go to referral list dot com.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
We got really good shops and uh you know, I mean,
you know, just just look around your area there from
referralist dot com.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
And Griffin ash by.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
The way, is with Action Automotive in Colorado Springs and
he's a self proclaimed best looking auto technician.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
But Griffin, the jury's still out Bro's dispute.

Speaker 17 (43:35):
We gotta have a contest.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
Okay, we got more coming up.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
Go with a sure thing Denver's best roofer Excel Roofing
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Speaker 2 (43:47):
You don't pay a cent until you're content.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
Time for an insurance check up free no obligation comparison
call Compass Insurance. Pay too much your coverage at dozens
of insurance companies find out now three oh three seven
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when you choose Frank durand the real estate man dot
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three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hey, today is

(44:16):
car Day, but you don't have to talk cars. Our
car experts are available by phone.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
And we also have I call it Deputy Day. It's
the first Deputy day where I had.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
Him all in the same studio at the same time,
with this brain power. Oh my god, if a bomb
ever went off in this studio, what would happen?

Speaker 2 (44:34):
We'd be left with only Mark. Oh my god, what
would happen?

Speaker 1 (44:38):
Then?

Speaker 2 (44:39):
Anyway, we'd have.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
To have Sue's takeover three oh three seven to one
to three talk. I haven't checked in with my morons lately, says.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
It says.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
Somebody heard you say Doc can't remember when he took
his last bath.

Speaker 5 (44:57):
Tell them I can't remember when I took my lest Somebody.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
Wants to introduce the people in the studio. Okay, So
as you're looking at the camera, because I'm looking at
I mean as you're looking at YouTube, I'll tell you so.
In the foreground, the one with his the back of
his head. That is dak or Chopper. Okay, that's Chopper.
We call him that because he's a retired police helicopter pilot.

(45:21):
And then as you go to screen left, you have
in the foreground Scott or Deputy Dollar. And then to
his left, which is the furthest to the left on
the screen, but in the back that's Deputy Bow. And

(45:41):
then you have Deputy Doc in the green shirt screen right.
That's the screen shirt right, I mean the screen shot there.
And then of course I'm behind the mic and you
see him waving and.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
There's a delay. There's a delay.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
When you watch and you in the studio doing it live,
but you guys are seeing it as I'm talking about it.
Three all, three, seven, one, three eight, two five five.
If you have a problem, question or complain, give us
a call. And I'm also talking about other things like
this one here Richard Simmons.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
I didn't know this.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
His autopsy showed at the time of his death he
had a broken leg, multiple contusions.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Cuts, and bruises. What's a contusion?

Speaker 5 (46:29):
Doc? Basically what we used to call black and blue mark.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Why does he have all these bruises and bruises? Huh.

Speaker 5 (46:39):
I don't know what I left him.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
He was fine and a broken and a broken leg.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
Now they say he fell a couple days before or
a day before and didn't want any medical attention, and
and maybe he had broken his leg, didn't man anyway,
no one is alleging he was beaten or anything. Uh,
but they're saying he probably had multiple falls. And what
I'm being told is.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
That falls are right up there with heart attacks and strokes.
Falls are a big part of why older people die.

Speaker 5 (47:13):
Absolutely.

Speaker 12 (47:15):
True.

Speaker 10 (47:16):
They break you know, they break a hip, they go
into the hospital, they get in pneumonia and they die
from that.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
And with all kidding aside, I'm going to tell you
something right now, because I am getting older and everybody is.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
By the way, everybody's getting.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
Older, right You remember Mark and Sue's had all those
people come on from my seventieth last year, we'll do
the math.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
It's a year later.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
So anyway, here's the bottom line. Your core is so
important to you. Your core strength and a really good
practice for you. If you can't do it, it's very
difficult to learn how to do it afterwards if you haven't.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
Been doing it.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
But a really good practice to see your core strength.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
Is if you can get up.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
From a sitting position on the floor. You can sit
any way you want on the floor. You can sit
with your lake sideways, Indian squat, whatever you want, and
then get up without using your hands. Now, if you
can do that, you have superior agility and strength superior.

(48:23):
There are a lot of younger people that can't do that.
You sit on the floor anyway you want.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
You know, you can sit on your butt, sit on
your side, sit any way you want, but get up
without using your hands now or then next, try to
use your hands as little as possible.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
And when it comes to to health, and I do
this through research, through personal experience, and also through my
many many years of just being compulsive about this studying
this stuff. There are three components to health and fitness, okay,
And one is pliability or stretching, because you can get

(49:03):
as many injuries from not being stretched and pliable, so
stretching is very important. That's why yoga's really good. And
yoga does some strength training too, but yoga's really good
for stretching. So long as you don't hyper stretch or overstretch.
Stretching is really good. The next thing I will not next,
I'm not putting these in order. Muscle strength, resistance training,

(49:27):
muscle strength, so different parts of your body, of different
muscle groups, you should work.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
You can do it any way you want.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
Then they should be rested at least the day in between,
sometimes more the older you get. So if you do
a combination of stretching and muscles, that's really good. And
then the third one, of course, is what aerobic or
breathing or vigorous exercise. It doesn't have to be underweight.

(49:57):
It can be a cycle, it can be swimming, swimming
streat it can be walking, but getting your heart rate up.
Those three components are best for you. Those three components.
In fact, I don't know if there's a fourth one
is that. I mean, that's it now. One thing people
do in they exercise too, is they don't exercise their
small muscles. They exercise their big muscles. When you do

(50:20):
bicep curls, triceps, when you do shoulders, when you do whatever,
you do your your abs, your lads. When you're doing
these exercises, a lot of times you're just doing the
big muscles because that's all there is there. And to
get to the small muscles, you would have to do
something tricky like, for example, you stand on the flat
part of a half circle. If you're just seeing those

(50:43):
rubber half circles with the flat part, you know what
I mean? A half a half ball, right, and that
the half that's flat you stand on, so the ball
keeps you a little off bound. You balance on that
ball with two feet and then do an The weight
of this is not important. This is for the small
twitch muscles in your legs. You stand on that ball

(51:06):
and you can use anything and do some bicep curls
or do some overhead presses. That weight's not important here.
You're not doing those muscles that you have. The weight
in that's just to keep you off balance, so you're
forced to balance, or you can stand there and just
do arm movements. But you stand on that ball and
that helps small twitch muscles in your abdomum and your legs.

(51:31):
Another thing are these vibrating plates.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
They're wonderful.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
You can just stand on a vibrating plate and you
can do squats. You can do one legged. You stand
on one leg for thirty seconds, the other leg for
thirty seconds. You don't have to do anything except stand
on there. What that does is that vibrating plate is
microscopically working your small twitch muscles. Small twitch muscles are

(51:56):
very important because they trigger the big muscles and.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
They have to be strong as well.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
You can also so what you're looking for is balance
as one of them. Vibration would be good for it,
and anything like that you can do would help.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
You with the small and the big muscles.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
Three oh three, seven to one to three talks our
number seven one, three, eight, two five five.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
There are a number of art.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
Now I'm going to talk about some intellectual property IP.
Intellectual property, there's something called public domain and fair use.
That's when you can use something or quote from it
or musical clips in what's called fair use. Fair use
would be if I said I love Paul McCartney and

(52:48):
you know, he's just such a good songwriter, and in
the background you hear Paul McCartney song, that's fair use.
You only use a certain amount of it, and you're
talking about him, you're not using it. For example, if
I said I love Paul McCartney and Shannon starts playing yesterday,
he's such a great songwriter, this is one of his

(53:09):
best songs.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
That's fair use.

Speaker 5 (53:11):
Is it for informational and educational purposes.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
You're talking about it.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
But if I said, I remember when I was a
young man and I was facing many challenges, and then
Shannon starts playing Yesterday, that is enhancing me and my presentation,
that's not fair use.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
See, there's a difference.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
Fair use is when it's in context with what you're
talking about, not used to enhance what you're doing. Now,
why do I bring this up Because virtually every single
star and composer and musician, virtually every one of them

(53:54):
except Lee Greenwood is suing Donald Trump for using songs.
Not one of them wants him to use their songs
in his appearances.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
He's used.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
Let's see, hold on, I'm coming, hold on, I'm coming,
okay from Isaac Hayes.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
Isaac Hayes is passed away. His estate is suing but
I looked into it.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
He is facing court action or demand letters for to
cease and desist from.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Every single artist.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
God, that's how much they hate him, every single one
except Lee Greenwood, who, of course, I'm proud to be
an American.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
You know.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
Kid Rock, I didn't Actually I don't know about kid Rock. Actually,
I mean do they? I mean Kid Rock's not suing him.
But I mean, does he use kid rock music?

Speaker 2 (54:50):
I think he does. I wonder what he uses from
kid rock. That would be apropos.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
But in any case, it's it's a big deal. Hollywood
is up in arms. I don't know if you call
it Hollywood. But wherever music I don't know what the
music capital is, but they're up in arms. Nashville, not
yeah for some of it, Detroit for some, What are
some other New Orleans? What are some other music capital?
There are a lot of music capitals, aren't there? Chicago,

(55:20):
New York, I guess anyway, So they say they never
gave permission and they do not want him using anything
to do with them. Now, this is something that I
find shocking. You remember I said I want either an
electric vehicle or a gasoline vehicle.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
I don't want a hybrid.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
Why did I say that? Because I don't want to
worry about two systems?

Speaker 6 (55:45):
Right?

Speaker 5 (55:45):
Two systems?

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (55:47):
According to this study from Consumer Reports, electric total electric
vehicles have seventy nine percent more problems than gasoline vehicles.
I don't I don't get it. What could it possibly be?
I mean, an electric car is a battery and a motor.

(56:09):
How can they have seventy nine percent more problems? Now
I don't look at I can't say I disagree because
I don't have any data.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
Now, listen, is hybrids.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
Have twenty six percent fewer problems than gas vehicles.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
Now, how can that be.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
If they're gas and have twenty six percent fewer problems?
Yet they have electrical systems and electrical cars have seventy
nine percent more problems. How does a hybrid taking both
of them have twenty six percent fewer problems?

Speaker 2 (56:44):
That? I just don't understand it at all.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
However, here's the one big caveat with hybrids. A plug
in hybrid is a totally different animal. I didn't even
know there was. I knew they call them hybrids are
plugged in. I didn't know that two different things. A
regular hybrid doesn't get plugged in. It charges. When you
drive a plug in hybrid, you can plug it in

(57:09):
and charge it, right, That's the difference.

Speaker 5 (57:11):
That's why they call it a plug in hybrid.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
Yah, that's what I mean. But I mean it charges.

Speaker 9 (57:15):
The Chrysler Pacifica is a plug in and Toyota has
a plug in on the Sienna, but they have normal
Toyota has a normal hybrid, is a Prius a plug
in I don't know about Prius, but listen to this.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
This makes no sense.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
So you have hybrids with twenty six percent fewer problems
than gasoline vehicles, electric vehicles all electric seventy nine percent
more problems than gasoline vehicles, but plug in hybrids one
hundred and forty six percent more problems than all of them.

(57:51):
Make No, it doesn't make sense. And this is why
I'm going to tell you this happens. They do it
totally based on surveys, Garbage in, garbage out. Here's why
someone with a plugged in hybrid, it's a much more
complicated car. Therefore, I believe you're going to have more

(58:11):
surveys saying why a lot of them just don't get it,
or they didn't plug it in, or they overcharge it, whatever,
So you got one hundred and forty six percent more
with all electric vehicles. I don't believe a lot of
people understand how to use them. They don't charge them
often enough or proper enough, or they have to charge
for a half hour because they didn't.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
Do it one time for ten minutes. I don't know, Well,
what's the source of that survey that you just no.
No consumer reports does everything on survey reports.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
Yeah, they don't go out and research like a Carfax
does based on report. Well, those are technically surveys, but
they come from repair shops and all of that. They're
asking consumers about their cars, and for example, twenty six
percent fewer problems with hybrids. I think people like their hybrid,
they're getting good gas mintage, and they give positive reports.

(59:01):
I just have never believed totally in surveys when it
comes to asking people. I mean, yeah, they are somewhat accurate,
but I believe the people who are taking the survey
and own something don't really necessarily know if it's owner
operator error or if it's truly a defective product. That's
what I think. Well, I gotta take this break, Megan.

(59:23):
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nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hey Tom Martine here,
Welcome to the show. Megan's got a problem with a
window contractor. And then I want to ask people to

(01:00:07):
look up online the Ineos I n EOS Grenadier. There's
a dealership in Colorado Springs. It looks like a g
wagon or a jeep or a range robe kind of mixture,
and but I don't know if it has a rough ride.
I'd like to know from people who have one. I've
seen them around. They're pretty cool looking. You know, it's gasoline.

(01:00:31):
They've been making them for a long time. I just
like to know if anybody has one of what's the rides? Like, Hey, Megan,
what's going on with your window? Who's the window contractor?

Speaker 8 (01:00:42):
Wow? Uh jk R windows jk R.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
Now who are they the Are they the maker of
the window or the installer?

Speaker 8 (01:00:53):
They are the company out of Saint George, Utah that
came into our area around the end of spring with
a legitimate you know, cells individual so.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
They did windows and installations. So they did the whole
package for you.

Speaker 8 (01:01:08):
Unfortunately, we haven't gotten to the installation. It's it's beyond
you can't even make this stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
Oh wait a minute, Megan, hold on, I want to
ask a few questions before you go on.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
You signed the contract.

Speaker 8 (01:01:19):
When, oh gosh, i'd have to go home. I'm at
Worth just rough the end of the spring, correct, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
So an end of this spring, like just just this
past spring, right, you got it?

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
Now, it was for a house full of windows or
a few windows?

Speaker 8 (01:01:37):
Correct?

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
Oh, a house full of windows?

Speaker 5 (01:01:39):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
And did they knock on your doors at how it happened?

Speaker 5 (01:01:43):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
Uh, yep.

Speaker 8 (01:01:45):
They're new to the area. They've been in Saint George, Utah, Arizona, Idaho.
Their website is amazing and they were.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
Just what kind of windows are they supposed to be?

Speaker 8 (01:01:58):
What is the brand of that window?

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
And was it was the window a vinyl window?

Speaker 5 (01:02:05):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
Okay, for vinyl replacement? Okay, next question? What went wrong?

Speaker 11 (01:02:14):
Uh?

Speaker 8 (01:02:14):
Oh? So their new office is up and running. It's
in there in Fort Collins. It has a phone number.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
Oh, they have a Colorado office in Fort Collins.

Speaker 8 (01:02:24):
Did oh so they ordered all the windows. They communicated
things they're not Wait did.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
They did they pack up and leave?

Speaker 8 (01:02:34):
Well, that's where things get interesting. I didn't. This just
happened probably in the last two weeks. They sent a
professional out. He was great. He measured all the windows.
They communicated and said, your windows are going to be here.
All the windows showed up.

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
Oh there they thank goodness. Hold on, now, Megan, how
much have you paid so far? How much is that?

Speaker 8 (01:02:58):
It's embarrassing? Twenty five thousand?

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
Okay, now hold on, did you get all the windows?

Speaker 8 (01:03:08):
They were all improperly measured. They've installed one, two, three, four, five, six.
And then when they got downstairs and realized how.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Many total windows? How many total windows by the.

Speaker 8 (01:03:21):
Way, I think we would have had twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
For twenty and then and only six had been installed.

Speaker 8 (01:03:28):
Well yeah, because some of them upstairs fit. But when
they got downstairs they had they did a terrible job
installing them, so they had to lead.

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
So they did install more than six. You're saying there's
only six that work. How many did they install totally?

Speaker 8 (01:03:48):
One, two, three, four or five six? Seven?

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
So they installed one window? Wrong?

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
No, you said they installed six when okay, so all
the windows they installed are wrong.

Speaker 8 (01:04:06):
At this point, yes, but three of them. I told
them to stop working because of all the.

Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
Three of them, in addition to the seven or three
of them in the seven.

Speaker 8 (01:04:17):
The eight upstairs seemed to look good and fit. But
when they got downstairs.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
Okay, hold on, you said eight upstairs seemed to look
good and fit. I asked you how many did they install?
And you said seven? So I'm not oh, I'm trying
to get numbers here. I'm trying to get a handle
so we can hand this off and call these people.
How many total windows I'm not yelling at you, by
the way, this is for emphasis. How many total windows

(01:04:43):
have been installed?

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
Totally?

Speaker 8 (01:04:47):
Okay? Total? So seven upstairs, three downstairs?

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
Ten windows correct? How many need to be stopped? Ten
out of twenty windows have been installed?

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
Okay? How many of those ten windows have to be redone?

Speaker 8 (01:05:04):
According to them, the three downstairs. So they had to
reorder everything because the guy measured everything long. But they
were able to pull off the upstairs somehow. Don't ask
me how well.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
They just trimmed it or something. I want to ask
you something.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
But then the ten windows, the three they have to
replace within that ten, then they have ten more to go, right,
did they?

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
Are they on site as well?

Speaker 8 (01:05:30):
No? No, because now when I called the salesperson, he said,
I left the company. It's declining. It's awful. The next
guy who's managing the Fort Collins office is no longer there.
They got a new guy in who said I'm going
to take care of this, and just this week he
suddenly is no longer there. So then I called the Utah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
Oh my god, I have a headache. It's so bad.

Speaker 8 (01:05:57):
It gets worse. They shut the Fort Collins office. They've
outsourced their answering service for all their offices in Saint George,
Utah to a out of the country kind of answering
service who told me that the phones are blowing up.
They cannot they have so many complaints and you can
now not get a hold.

Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
So how long has it been since you heard from them?

Speaker 6 (01:06:22):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
Yeah, have you guys looked this up yet? Have you
looked up the online jkr?

Speaker 8 (01:06:31):
Yeah, it's a fantastic website. They have decent ratings. But
I was joking. I said, maybe the owner went off
the deep end. Well, I find out he has a podcast.
He's this big shot who has recovered drug and alcohol
addiction and somehow created this multi million dollar company. And

(01:06:52):
I'm thinking either we got scammed or this guy with
this podcast, whoevercame a drug and alcohol addiction relapsed in
the whole company went down in flames and we're out.
We have two toned windows in the whole house.

Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
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Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
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Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
Your ac for your furnace and they give you honest estimations.
They do plumbing and heating as well, and of course electrical.
And they're honest people three oh three seven seven zero
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(01:08:14):
give this to somebody to work on it. But I
want to I want to call. I want to narrow
it down. So the contract was signed the company, Uh,
you're supposed to do twenty vinyl windows. You paid half
and they installed ten. Three have to be reinstalled. The
other ten aren't even there, and they shut down their
Colorado office. And when was the last time you heard

(01:08:36):
from them?

Speaker 8 (01:08:38):
They do not reach out to me. I had. I
called the installer guy that they had in the area,
and he's been great about Is.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
He still with the company.

Speaker 8 (01:08:47):
She says that he is, and he says, oh, your
windows are ordered. Oh yeah, they're ordered.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
Good. You have a name for this guy and a number.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
Right, I do, But there's no office here in town
anymore or in Colorado.

Speaker 8 (01:09:00):
Correct.

Speaker 3 (01:09:02):
Oh no, this is terrible, This is terrible. We looked
up the website, we looked him up online. We're looking
up the whole thing. I'm going to give this the
Deputy Chopper, that's his nickname.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
We're going to be a calling.

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
We're going to want your contact information, now do you
have that on you? Rs at at home?

Speaker 8 (01:09:20):
My contact? Well, I've got the owner's number. Now the
people have quit are giving me more information. His mailbox
is full, you know you you name it. It's happening, and.

Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
You're saying that this owner, his story is, he's a
he's a recovering drug addict.

Speaker 8 (01:09:41):
He has a podcast, he's a big shot.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
What's his name? What's his name?

Speaker 8 (01:09:46):
Jefferson Rogers. You won't believe this when you.

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
See it, Okay, Rogers, hold on, Jefferson Rogers. I'm going
to give this the deputy chopper, but I want you
to hang on. We'll get your information. I'm Tom art.
You know we got more coming up on the Troubleshooter
Show three oh three seven to one three Talk or
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Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
Ripped you needed? Who you don't have?

Speaker 15 (01:10:49):
Come?

Speaker 4 (01:10:49):
Run anxious as fast as we can. Shooter's gonna help.

Speaker 16 (01:10:54):
Come, man, this is the Troubleshooter Show.

Speaker 3 (01:10:59):
Noo, Hi, Tom Martino here, Welcome to the show. Three
oh three seven one three talk seven one three eight
two five five. Today is Car Friday. That doesn't mean
we talked just about cars. Are experts make it in today?
There were various obligations for the holiday, but we have
all of them available on phone if you have car problems, questions,

(01:11:20):
complaints and speaking of cars, I want to know if
anyone is familiar with the ineos. I think I'm pronouncing
it properly ineos ineos. I knows it's I n EO
S grenadeer g r e n A d i e

(01:11:43):
r ineos grenadeer.

Speaker 5 (01:11:47):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
It's funny. Uh, I just I swear to guys.

Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
I was looking at it online and it says starting
from seventy five thousand, and it changed right before my
eyes I swear to you right before they must have
been doing like an update and it says now eighty
six eighty six thousand. So in any case, they look
you can get them with a little pickup bet or

(01:12:12):
four door pick up with a pickup bed, or you
can get them four doors.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
They look a little.

Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
Like a g Wagon, Jeep and Bronco rolled into one,
maybe even a hummer, and they're obvious. Wait wait, wait, okay,
it does say seventy five grand for the station wagon.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
Special deal just for you, Tom and the Quartermaster. The
one with a pickup starts at eighty six nine and
then the limited starts at eighty six nine fifty. So
what air ring? All I want to know is what's
the ride? Like? I have no idea.

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
Maybe we should call down there, you know what, Kachina,
Let's call down to Grenadier. I don't know what the
name of it is in Colorado Springs, but they have
a dealership in Colorado Springs. Let's call down there and
ask them if they'll come on and talk about it.
Of course they're going to tell us the rides wonderful,
but you know what, I think they'll be honest.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
Why not?

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
So they're in Colorado Springs. Find a dealer here it
is find a retailer so Colorado Springs.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
Here, it is right here in Colorado. There it is.
It's called I'm going to give you the name.

Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
Okay, it's called Red noland Ineos Grenadier, and I'll give
you the number.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
Even say I'm doing your job. Is she listening to me?
For God's sakes? Or I might be not? Am I
being ignored? Come on, man, hey, Kachina, is that four
four four number?

Speaker 3 (01:13:44):
It's the yes, thank you, seven to one nine, thank you?
Can you write that down for And by the way,
what's she doing? She has a few mimosas and you
think the world's gonna You know, we gotta have a
rule no alcohol.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
In this freaking studio anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:13:57):
They had a birthday party and somebody had a few
too many mimosas. If you want to ask me, she's
walking around in a.

Speaker 16 (01:14:04):
Stupid with the bottle.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
She's walking around in a stupor. She's working.

Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
It's a holiday weekend, and she thinks it just started,
like when my show started.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
Does she working?

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
Capitalists say hey, this will be fun, of course, yeah,
it'd be great. Oh, it'll be way fun. Anyway, have
any of my youtubew by the way, I was sold
the YouTube audio is off again. It's something they say
they're getting bleed over from another station.

Speaker 2 (01:14:34):
Is that right? Child?

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
Just got here?

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
It sounds fine when I just sound fine? Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:14:39):
Any of my YouTube morons? Do you know about the ineos?
Somebody said it looks like they're using a BMW engine.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
Well, that would be cool.

Speaker 3 (01:14:48):
The I like BMW's performance. Again, I just want to
know what it's going to drive like, That's what I
want to know. And I imagine we have a best
of on Monday, don't we Okay?

Speaker 15 (01:15:02):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
Three three seven one, three eight two five five is
the number. I'm gonna go.

Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
Chopper right now is calling this window company, which is
jk R. They installed a roughly half the windows. Some
of them have to be redone the other ten. She
doesn't know where they are. They close their Colorado office
JKR Windows and they're out of Utah. The guy brags

(01:15:32):
about being a recovering addict and he has four point
nine stars. They say, uh, and he seems look his
video seem good. The guy does a podcast. He supposedly
he supposedly a legit guy, but we'll see. They say

(01:15:53):
they have areas in Utah, Boise, Vegas, Seattle, Phoenix, Grand Junction, Denver,
Fort Collins, Billings, And they do have some numbers, you know,
for the local for Fort Collins. But anyway, three zero three,

(01:16:14):
seven to one to three talk is our number. Now
in the news, there are a number of people who
are buying listen to this. They're buying up unused patents,
people who filed patents years ago and never made it,

(01:16:37):
never did anything with it. And then they're going out
and finding similar products.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
That come close to that product.

Speaker 3 (01:16:49):
And they are making demand letters for patent infringement. So
they buy for pennies on the dollar. They buy a
patent for a few bucks, or they have a patent.
Then they go out and find similar products and threaten
the hell out of these people to settle for them

(01:17:11):
cash or take their product off the market, or they
sue them. They're called patent trolls, patent trolls, and it's
happening more and more.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
In twenty thirteen, Barack Obama actually said that he wanted
to get rid of people who have patents that don't
produce anything, and they're simply leveraging and hijacking ideas.

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
In order to extort money.

Speaker 3 (01:17:48):
However, they did have some success in the courts, ruling
that if you have no intent to make anything and
you solely exist to extract money, it could be ruled invalid.

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
But there are still people doing it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:09):
They have first of all, they try to enforce a
patent by asking you to pay licensing fees, or they
simply go against you for damages, claiming that now they're
not going to be able to make what they wanted
to make, and they basically are trolling products. And what

(01:18:35):
the government feels, even though they haven't been successful in
shutting it down, is that it's wrong to do if
you're not going to produce anything. But the government itself
actually made it advantageous to be a patent troll.

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
And here's why.

Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
If you hear about a patent, or if you have
a patent and somebody else has something, if some bod
he's been using or producing something for many many years
and it's been in public domain, it can't be patented.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
But if both people, if two people.

Speaker 3 (01:19:10):
Have an idea, it's the first one to the patent
office that gets the patent. It's not the first one
who thought of it, or the first one who produced it,
but the first one to the patent office, except when
something is public domain. Once something becomes public domain, it

(01:19:30):
can never be patented unless it's altered in such a
way that it becomes almost something new or has a
different function. So beware of patent trolls. Meaning this, if
you have an idea for something that you want to
bring to market, do not show it to anybody, even

(01:19:52):
with a non disclosure. If you do, it could be
considered disclosure, it could be considered public and it could
start counting the clock on public domain before it Because
if you don't bring it to the patent office within
a certain amount of time, you lose your right.

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
So here's what I recommend.

Speaker 3 (01:20:12):
There's something called a provisional patent that can be gotten
immediately by filing. Now you may say, how can you
do a provisional patent if in fact you haven't done
a patent search and you don't know what's out there
and you don't know where you stand on the product.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
Here's what a provisional patent says. Here's what it says.

Speaker 3 (01:20:35):
It's provisional and it's contingent on a few things. First,
it's contingent on you being first in line, which means
that if someone did a provisional patent last year and
you do one this year, their provisional patent takes precedent.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
But if no one did, you at least are in line.

Speaker 3 (01:21:02):
It also says it's contingent on you having a unique product.

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
You see, the reason they don't.

Speaker 3 (01:21:09):
Require a patent search is because if you go to
the patent office with a provisional patent and it turns
out that this has been invented before, no harm, no foul,
because it's only provisional.

Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
It never becomes permanent.

Speaker 3 (01:21:26):
So it's contingent on you being first or in front
of other provisional patents. It's contingent on you being original
that there's no other thing out there that's already been patented,
and it's contingent upon you coming up with a prototype
to do it. So when you file a provisional patent,

(01:21:47):
it's a place in line and it says, if I
can prove these elements, it's going to be my patent
and no one can get in there first. And that's
important because if you don't do that now, that then
the provisional patent becomes a real patent. If you don't
do that, you run the risk of someone beating you

(01:22:09):
to the patent office with the same idea.

Speaker 10 (01:22:11):
Tom. There was a great documentary about that with Alexander
green Bell and Telephone. There was a scandal because apparently
they paid off the clerk in the patent office to
put his patent before someone else's so that he got
the credit for it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:30):
That's right, that's exactly right, which goes exactly what you say. Yeah,
and nowadays it's getting even worse because things are invented
all the time and they keep it under wraps. Go
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you choose Frank durand the Real estate Man dot com

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Now we uh, we go out to eat a lot,
my wife and I just two of us. Sometimes it
doesn't pay to cook. And uh, I haven't noticed a
lot of obnoxious people. But I hear that it's a

(01:24:00):
growing trend of noxiousness in restaurants and people's come up this.
This travel magazine came up with the most deplorable habits
in a restaurant. They surveyed staff. So what do you

(01:24:21):
think is the number one complaint of staff? And sometimes no,
that's number two.

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
It's not screaming kids kids allowed to roam.

Speaker 3 (01:24:37):
I've watched that. Now to me, that's my number one bugaboo.

Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
Can you there are.

Speaker 3 (01:24:42):
Parents that I swear to God, their kids just get
down off the chair, walk around. I've seen them walk
up to other tables and talk to people and bug people.

Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
What are you eating? You know? What? Why you know?
I mean? Now, I I can.

Speaker 3 (01:24:55):
Say I don't see it very common. I don't go
to a lot of kid restaurants that are kid friendly now, not.

Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
Because I don't like his We just don't. But I
don't blame you. Here's the deal.

Speaker 3 (01:25:08):
The number one is people who refuse to pay for
a dish because it was.

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
Bad, but they ate like ninety percent of it.

Speaker 3 (01:25:18):
Because normally, if you don't like something right off the bat,
you say, I'm sorry, there's something wrong with this. There
was a taste, this fish doesn't taste right, or it's
not cooked to temperature or something. You just you usually
do it right away, and the wait staff has never
given me a hard time.

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
And I don't do it often.

Speaker 3 (01:25:37):
But if something isn't right and you bring it up
right away in a kind way, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
It's not a bad deal. Right.

Speaker 3 (01:25:43):
They don't do it, but they say when people eat
about ninety percent of it and then do that, they
really get pissed off. My tom My daughter works at Starbucks,
and she gets irritated.

Speaker 5 (01:26:00):
She serves the coffee and they go.

Speaker 10 (01:26:01):
Out and walk around and come back when the coffee's
like three quarters empty, and then they they said it
wasn't right and they want a new coffee.

Speaker 2 (01:26:09):
She gets that a lot at the Golden Starbucks.

Speaker 5 (01:26:12):
They should just say right now, I heye, the coffee's
not good.

Speaker 10 (01:26:15):
But they take the coffee out, drink it, and come
back and say, say the coffee's bad.

Speaker 3 (01:26:19):
Now here's the deal. The number two is letting kids
run free. Number three debating prices of the menu, with
the staff saying, why is this so much? Can I
get it for this? I have never heard that ever,
I've never seen that. I find that hard to believe.

Speaker 2 (01:26:42):
They say that.

Speaker 3 (01:26:43):
Well, let's see respondents deemed unacceptable hold on eighty four percent. Oh,
they don't say it happens that all. Well, it says
just to be behaviors. Ninety percent hate the not eating
the dish or eating most of the dish and then
saying okay. And then ninety percent say they hate when
the kids run free. Eighty four percent say they hate

(01:27:07):
when people debate prices. I've never seen people debate prices. Now,
this is another one that I've never seen that the
staff says that people stay past closing time and linger
past closing time.

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
I don't even like going in.

Speaker 3 (01:27:25):
I don't know how you feel about this, but have
you ever I won't go to a restaurant fifteen minutes
before they close or twenty minutes although technically they're open.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
I don't like it.

Speaker 3 (01:27:34):
I don't feel right about it, because you're going to
go in, you're going to order, and you know you're
going to stay past closing. Now, most of the time
they account for that anyway, don't they. I mean, if
you're going to be let's say you're open till nine
and somebody goes in eight forty five, you know that
it's going to be more than fifteen minutes, right, So
I don't I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
But yet you have to have a closing time. So
what do you do? Do you stop seeing, you.

Speaker 3 (01:27:59):
Stop seating I would have a sign saying stop seating
at right, then you stop seating at nine rather than
closing at nine. Then you close at ten maybe, or
you close at nine p thirty. But that would be
a better way to do it. It's just a stop
seating at a certain time, and then people don't get
pissed if they come in and there's twenty minutes left

(01:28:19):
and they're about to close, I think anyway, So staying
past closing time is another one. The other thing is
when they snapped their fingers at weight people.

Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
Have you ever snapped your fingers? I've never ever done that.
I've never done that one hand, I've never done that.

Speaker 3 (01:28:36):
I've sometimes wave, you know, I wave a little, but
that's only first you guys.

Speaker 5 (01:28:45):
I was a water for years.

Speaker 10 (01:28:47):
When I was in college, we went up to the
Catskills to work in the hotels. And then when I
was in medical school, whenever I didn't have a a
rotation and call from that call, I worked as a
wait to an Italian restaurant.

Speaker 2 (01:29:03):
And what about as.

Speaker 3 (01:29:07):
Anyway three oh three seven one three talks seven one
three eight two five five. A lot of people are
on vacation and uh, it is the It is the
uh time of year when people leave. Even though Monday
is the holiday, people leave on a Friday. We know
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when you choose Frank durand the real estate man dot
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three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Next year, I
have well, I don't know why, because phone calls, people

(01:30:25):
are out, people are out of town, are going out
of town. But I got a whole crapload of texts
that came into my Google number seven four seven nine
nine fifty two eighty. So on that topic, we talked
about reliability of cars. I wondered why plug in hybrids
have such a bad reliability rating according to consumer reports

(01:30:45):
surveys they do surveys, they set one hundred and forty
six percent more than regular cars, and the electrical ones
have like a seventy nine percent more problems. And somebody
here said, I rented a plug in hybrid in North Carolina.

Speaker 2 (01:31:07):
For a weekend. At first, it was a kind of
pain in the ass.

Speaker 3 (01:31:11):
I had to literally read instructions on how to charge it,
because it's not like a typ of a car in
any way. And it was the first time I've used it.
I had never rented or been around one. I had
to figure it out. My guess is a lack of
knowledge of the car is a problem.

Speaker 2 (01:31:32):
It is why they had the week reviews.

Speaker 3 (01:31:36):
And because remember these are done on surveys, they're not
actual numbers, it said. And then we have another one
with a picture. Listen to this republic sanitation are now
they now have EV trash trucks. How can a battery

(01:31:56):
lass on those suckers?

Speaker 2 (01:31:58):
You know how much energy they use to crush garbage.
There's a picture of one. They have EV trash trucks.

Speaker 3 (01:32:07):
And then somebody said on the apartments the Venezuelans that
Channel thirty one has been following it first and foremost
Fox thirty one News that because a lot of the
local news I accused of ignoring it, Channel nine ignored
it until they could write a puff piece on how
it's exaggerated and only conservatives are saying it's happening and

(01:32:31):
that other people aren't.

Speaker 2 (01:32:34):
Then there's another recommendation.

Speaker 3 (01:32:36):
Okay, somebody wants to know who do I recommend for
my surgery, the back surgery.

Speaker 2 (01:32:43):
Okay, here's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:32:47):
I don't I love my shirt.

Speaker 2 (01:32:51):
I'm not recommending it to you. I'm not recommending anybody
to you.

Speaker 3 (01:32:54):
If you do, if you go to the Top Surgery,
the Top's website. This is a spinal implant I had done.
You go to Premia I think it's called Premia pr
e m I a Premiu spine.

Speaker 2 (01:33:06):
Google it, go to their website. They have recommended doctors.

Speaker 3 (01:33:09):
Now, I used doctor Joshua Beckman at Saint A's Great People.
He's a neurosurgeon and he was one of the first
to do it, and I was one.

Speaker 2 (01:33:21):
Of the first FDA approved procedures in the world.

Speaker 3 (01:33:25):
Now, they did hundreds before me, but I'm talking about
FDA approved and then he got trained on it for me,
so it was great. So obviously I like him. Now
here's another one. Now, Oh, how do you get the
ten percent off your electric bill?

Speaker 2 (01:33:46):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:33:48):
I talked about it yesterday? Have you missed it? I
delayed a lot before I talked about it. I said
I'm going to talk about it, and I didn't get
to it till the third hour. There are solar farms
right now being built by individual concerns, either co ops, corporations, partnerships, neighborhoods.

(01:34:09):
What is the solar field. It is a giant field
of solar panels.

Speaker 5 (01:34:15):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:34:15):
They build the solar field in order to get tax
credits and grant money and in order to sell back
to the grid. They make money by building a solar field.
Excel Energy now they sell virtual shares of.

Speaker 2 (01:34:38):
That solar field to you.

Speaker 3 (01:34:42):
They don't really sell it to you where you own
it forever, but they kind of let you in on it.

Speaker 2 (01:34:49):
And by letting you in on it.

Speaker 3 (01:34:50):
What Excel hopes to do, and this is not really
public and published, but this is the real truth. What
Excel hopes you to do is to take advantage of
this program and accept an ownership share, no obligation whatsoever
in this solar field, and get a ten percent reduction

(01:35:10):
on your bill. There's no gim it's no gimmick, it's
no scam. If you sign up for a solar field
near you, if there's one near you and you sign
up for it, you will get ten percent.

Speaker 2 (01:35:22):
Off your electric bill. Bar none.

Speaker 3 (01:35:26):
They don't install anything on your house. You don't get
the power actually from that grid. It's just a virtual ownership.
And for owning it, for being part of it, I
mean like being a member of that solar field, you
get ten percent off your electric bill.

Speaker 2 (01:35:43):
Now why would Excel do this? Well, first I told
you why the solar field people do it.

Speaker 3 (01:35:49):
A bunch of people can get together and put in
a solar field and literally make money from it. They
make hundreds of thousands a year by selling power back
to Excel. They do, and they also get tax credits.

Speaker 2 (01:36:04):
It's a wonderful business.

Speaker 3 (01:36:06):
Build a solar field, make money, You initially get tax
credits and then you get grid money for selling money
selling power back to the grid. Okay, that's why they
do it. Why does Excel do it?

Speaker 2 (01:36:20):
Anyone want to take a guess.

Speaker 3 (01:36:21):
Why would Excel give you a ten percent discount for
being part of the solar field?

Speaker 2 (01:36:28):
Why do they care?

Speaker 9 (01:36:31):
Somehow they get it back from the government.

Speaker 10 (01:36:33):
Nope, decrease demanded peak hours Nope.

Speaker 2 (01:36:37):
Here's why they do it.

Speaker 3 (01:36:39):
Excel knows people interested in solar will.

Speaker 2 (01:36:44):
Bite on this.

Speaker 3 (01:36:46):
And it might appease them enough to where they don't
put in their own system. Now, why does Excel care
about you? Putting in a solar system. As much as
Excel says that they want alternative power, they don't want
you to go away because if you put in a

(01:37:06):
solar system, they lose major revenue from you. Plus they're
obligated to buy energy from you if you obligate it.
They don't have a choice. They can't say to you,
we have enough energy. If you have a net meter
and you produce more than you're using, not only do

(01:37:28):
they lose you as an electrical customer, but they also
have to pay you for producing electricity. So Excel would
rather have a bunch of people they give a ten
percent discount too, then have a bunch of people go
off the grid, so to speak.

Speaker 2 (01:37:49):
Makes sense. It's happening.

Speaker 3 (01:37:52):
So if you find out about these solar fields I found,
I have a brochure for one, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:37:58):
Going to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:37:59):
You'll get ten off your electric and there and it's
not a gimmick. You can get out of it anytime
you want. That's just the way it is. It's a
real deal. Hey, by the way, another real deal. Excel
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and a complete contract.

Speaker 2 (01:38:23):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (01:38:24):
You don't have to sign anything, and you don't have
to give them a dime. And then when you're happy
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Speaker 2 (01:39:20):
Hi Tom Martino, You're a troubleshooter. Three o three seven
one three talk three oh three seven one three eight
two five five Another text God, I can't believe what
where people.

Speaker 3 (01:39:34):
Texting from their cars? Because uh okay, here's here's what
it says. It's weird. Have you turned into a trumper?
God almighty, I'm far from that. I'm not a Harriser either,
kind of get it? Harriser, a Harriser, Harasser, Harriser. I'm
not anyway when you say you haven't. The guy's a

(01:39:57):
criminal in disrespects the military almost every week with words
and actions.

Speaker 2 (01:40:02):
It's very sad. Man. I don't know who the hell
you're talking to, but it ain't me. Three oh three
seven to one three talks seven one three eight two
five five. Here's another one.

Speaker 3 (01:40:12):
This one wants to know about umbrella coverage. They want
to know does umbrella coverage on insurance on your house?
By the way, you don't get it on your house.
Let me explain this to you. You get umbrella coverage
on yourself. You as a person, have umbrella coverage. The

(01:40:36):
umbrella coverage by default extends to your homeowners and it
extends to your automobile coverage except for one part of
your automobile coverage. And you better listen carefully. If you

(01:40:56):
have liability, it will extend to lie ability. So if
someone sues you and for some reason they have massive
losses and they won't settle for your insurance premium, excuse
me your insurance limits, they may choose to sue you.
Your umbrella coverage kicks in. So if you have five

(01:41:17):
or ten million in umbrella coverage, you're pretty well insulated
from damages.

Speaker 2 (01:41:22):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:41:23):
It will cover you with homeowners liability and your automobile liability,
but it doesn't extend your uninsured motorist coverage to you.

Speaker 2 (01:41:38):
Let me give you an example of what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:41:42):
If you get in a car accident with someone who
doesn't have insurance or who is under insured, and you
have pain and suffering and economic losses totally a million
dollars and they only have one hundred thousand dollars in coverage.

Speaker 2 (01:42:03):
Your UM coverage will cover you. Your UM not your umbrella
will cover you up to a certain assent. So let's
say you have UM coverage of five hundred thousand, so
you'll get one hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:42:19):
From them and five hundred from your UM for a
total of six hundred. But if you have a million
dollars in true provable losses, can you get the other
four hundred from your umbrella No, not automatically. Umbrella coverage

(01:42:40):
is to protect you against liability for others.

Speaker 2 (01:42:46):
It can, however, extend to.

Speaker 3 (01:42:49):
Your underinsured and uninsured motorists coverage for your own pain
and suffering.

Speaker 2 (01:42:55):
It can if you have a special riot. It's called
a UM rider.

Speaker 3 (01:43:02):
So make sure if you get an umbrella coverage and
you wanted to cover you, you wanted to cover you
not just for liability to others, but you wanted to
extend to your UM coverage your uninsured motor coverage. In

(01:43:23):
that case, you have to have a special rider. That
is very very important. Now why would anyone do that well,
Because if you're worth a lot of money, or you
make a lot of money and someone injures you and
they don't have a lot of liability coverage and you're
stuck without work or your misery, you're miserable, you want

(01:43:49):
to make damn well sure that you're taken care of
as if the other person had insurance. And you normally
don't cover that much UM coverage. So in addition to
the UM coverage, if you have an umbrella policy and
that umbrella policy carries a special UM rider, it will

(01:44:14):
then extend to your under insured or uninsured motorist coverage.

Speaker 2 (01:44:21):
That's really important.

Speaker 3 (01:44:23):
Somebody else texted me again, I can't believe I hadn't
looked at these earlier seven four seven, nine fifty two eighty.
If you want to text me there or give us
a call. Three oh three Martino three oh three six
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one three talk. What's going on? Floyd? What's happening all?

Speaker 5 (01:46:40):
Tom?

Speaker 18 (01:46:40):
I sure hope you can't. You have your wand today?

Speaker 2 (01:46:43):
Oh what happened?

Speaker 5 (01:46:45):
I don't know if you still.

Speaker 18 (01:46:46):
Have any contacts with Centurylinklomen they're totally incompetent. I live
in Denver with my wife and my family by in
laws live in Thornton. They're in their upper eighties. They
have what you would expect from medical issues and beyond.
They rely on a landline.

Speaker 3 (01:47:05):
Okay, any day did they ever call us before?

Speaker 2 (01:47:10):
No? Okay? Because I got a call from an older couple.
It wasn't them, Okay, and go ahead tell me about it.

Speaker 18 (01:47:18):
I found out that we tried to contact them because
we're always in touch with them, on last Friday, and
what wasn't getting through. No signal, no, no a thing.
I did a troubleshooting online via Century Links their software.
The test was failing. So we came out on Saturday,
spent all day Saturday and all the day Sunday. I

(01:47:42):
took a look at the network interface, determined that it
was getting power and determined that it was the fiber
optic line that was going to the interface. So they
have fiber to the interface and then it's a twisted
pair from there into their house, so I know that
it's the fiber line somewhere, you know, centry link stuff.

(01:48:06):
So Monday was the first time I could actually talk
to somebody to schedule it, schedule the repair. So I
called them.

Speaker 2 (01:48:13):
I told them that it can Illoyd.

Speaker 3 (01:48:16):
While while you're saying all this, I want to explain
something to you. And you can still explain it, okay,
And I don't want you to think I'm unfeeling or
uncaring a change in regulations.

Speaker 2 (01:48:27):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:48:29):
It basically says that Century Link no longer has to
provide landline service. Now, listen to what this means, because
I know what you're going to say, Well, if we're
paying for it, they should supply it.

Speaker 2 (01:48:44):
That's absolutely true. But here's what.

Speaker 3 (01:48:47):
I'm getting at, and I went through this the other day,
and in the regulation, if they breach your contract to
supply a landline that you're paying.

Speaker 2 (01:48:59):
For, your recourse is to stop.

Speaker 3 (01:49:04):
Paying for it and to get a refund for the
time you were not served. Your recourse is not making
them supply the landline, nor can you make them fix it.

Speaker 2 (01:49:21):
And I'm going to tell you why. It just they're
no longer regulated that way.

Speaker 18 (01:49:26):
How How could they not supply a nine to one
one service that we're paying for?

Speaker 6 (01:49:31):
How can they not.

Speaker 3 (01:49:32):
Maintain if you're paying for it? Listen, they're breaching your contract. Therefore,
you really have to hear me, Floyd. You can't make them.
You can't make them supply it. If you're paying for
it and they are not living up to their contract,

(01:49:54):
you have a right to get that money back that
you paid while it is not working, and you have
a right to not pay them anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:50:05):
You do not have a right.

Speaker 3 (01:50:07):
To make them fix it. I know it sounds weird
and you're thinking, oh, no, they have to supply it. No,
they do not have to supply it.

Speaker 6 (01:50:18):
When did this change happen.

Speaker 3 (01:50:21):
It happened in it's order numbers nineteen seventy two. It
ended the requirement for telecon companies to supply, maintain and
landline services of all kinds, including nine one one and this.

Speaker 2 (01:50:37):
I don't have a date. I don't have a date.

Speaker 13 (01:50:39):
How the heck does that work.

Speaker 3 (01:50:40):
For seniors on I find it vulable people, because hold
on the way it works is this, when something's not available,
it's not available. I mean, what if seniors wanted to
move out to the country and they don't have a
landline out there?

Speaker 2 (01:50:55):
The way you buy them cell phones.

Speaker 18 (01:51:00):
So I understand that they're not required to look at
the load.

Speaker 2 (01:51:03):
By the way.

Speaker 6 (01:51:06):
I understand.

Speaker 18 (01:51:06):
I understand you're just giving me information. So, but there's
a difference between moving to an area that doesn't have service,
where it's not possible for them reasonably, you know, to do.
And there are plenty of areas in the nation that
are in that scenario. But this is an existing line
that's been in existing first.

Speaker 2 (01:51:25):
That's rights right, that's right, Floyd, and they're longer obligated
under the Telecommunications Act to maintain it.

Speaker 18 (01:51:33):
So let's go through the possibility of problem solving on this.
So I put in an SEC complaint last night. Who
knows where that's gotting.

Speaker 2 (01:51:42):
No one's going to make them fix anything.

Speaker 18 (01:51:45):
I put it.

Speaker 4 (01:51:46):
I put it.

Speaker 18 (01:51:47):
I'm just giving you the updates where it stands, and
you could determine where you may be able to help
or where you may not. Sure the SEC complaint is in.
I had an appointment for Wednesday, I had another appointment
for Thursday, and I appointments for this morning till noon.
All three appointments have been missed. Never got a call
from the tech I've had it escalated.

Speaker 2 (01:52:09):
I have no contact, Floyd. Do you know why for corporate?
Do you know why?

Speaker 18 (01:52:14):
I know why they're incompetent. There's silent.

Speaker 2 (01:52:17):
That's not that's not true. That's not true. They're no
more incompetent.

Speaker 3 (01:52:21):
They're no more incompetent than a company that used to
offer blacksmith services that doesn't do it anymore. They just
don't staff like they used to for a dying technology, Floyd.

Speaker 18 (01:52:36):
But there's enough ads of the tech's out there. They're scheduled,
they are doing work. They may not have enough, that's.

Speaker 3 (01:52:42):
Right, they don't have enough. But there's another underlying Floyd.
There's another underlying reason. And I I just want to
tell you the truth because there's no sense lying to you.

Speaker 2 (01:52:52):
They don't want your landline business.

Speaker 18 (01:53:00):
Where do you have Let's move forward from this. Do
you have any contacts in such really?

Speaker 2 (01:53:06):
Yeah, we do have contacts, But okay.

Speaker 18 (01:53:10):
If they don't have any contact with in corporate repair
beyond the basic where they channel you, I've.

Speaker 2 (01:53:16):
Got we have what's called we have what's called the
corporate angel. And here's what they use. What they usually
what they usually do for us, they do.

Speaker 3 (01:53:24):
Sometimes they'll they'll escalate something and help. But I will say, if.

Speaker 2 (01:53:32):
It's in an area that has been abandoned, and this
is not an efficient what's that?

Speaker 8 (01:53:41):
This isn't This is right in Thornton.

Speaker 3 (01:53:43):
I'm not talking about officially abandoned with a sign up.

Speaker 2 (01:53:47):
This is abandoned. They have inner workings.

Speaker 3 (01:53:51):
They're shutting down their land line business if.

Speaker 18 (01:53:57):
They upgraded the service here to they're making to maintain
the fiber to the house to the interface in the
hopes that the reason.

Speaker 3 (01:54:07):
They're doing fiber. The reason they're doing fiber, and that's
good is for broadband where you can have an.

Speaker 18 (01:54:14):
Idea and I understand that.

Speaker 3 (01:54:16):
Do you have my house, boyd do you have fiber
going to your in law's house?

Speaker 18 (01:54:22):
I told you they have fiber going to the interface.
They have twisted pair from that point with two inside
the house, so they have the fiber. I've already determined.
The problem is.

Speaker 2 (01:54:32):
With the fiber.

Speaker 3 (01:54:33):
Okay, their fiber network. Let me just tell you what
they're doing. They're upgrading to fiber so they can do broadband.
And then those people who want a landline, it's never
going to be the same landline. It will be an
IP phone, yes, okay, and your parents, your in laws
will have a similarity to what they have now once
that transition is done. In the meantime, during this time

(01:54:56):
of transition, there are going to be many areas abandoned.
I'm not talking about officially abandoned. You're not going to
see it written down anywhere, but they're not going to
dedicate a lot of time and energy to fixing.

Speaker 2 (01:55:09):
It because it's going away.

Speaker 3 (01:55:11):
They're no longer going to maintain any twisted pears, so until.

Speaker 18 (01:55:16):
They don't have to maintain a twisted pair, I don't
understand why you know.

Speaker 16 (01:55:21):
Maybe I'm Floyd.

Speaker 3 (01:55:23):
Actually I heard everything you said. I'm The problem is
I heard you, Floyd. The problem is you think I
don't listen. The problem is are you going to listen
to me or not? If not, just hang off if
you want to listen. You said, the problem is in
the actual digital fiber is in the fiber.

Speaker 2 (01:55:41):
That's where the problem is. What I'm telling you, it.

Speaker 3 (01:55:44):
Is in the interface of the fiber to the twisted pair. Floyd,
I'm sorry, you're trying to resurrect a dead horse. Okay,
there are ways around it, but you are hell bent
on trying to make centry Link perform on a technology

(01:56:05):
they are no longer required to maintain. You're asking for
the impossible. It's terrible, and I am sure people who
had telegraph service hated it, and people who had steam cars.

Speaker 2 (01:56:23):
It's terrible.

Speaker 3 (01:56:25):
They're not going to maintain it unless they maintain it
just because they have enough time and energy. They're not
going to go out of their way.

Speaker 2 (01:56:34):
They did.

Speaker 3 (01:56:35):
They know that there are other services available. I am
not your enemy. I am telling you the state of reality.
I swear to God that is the reality. Wait, you know,
whether the problem is technically in the twisted pair or
in the fiber network, the problem is where it feeds

(01:56:59):
that that twisted pair or near it, and or it
might be the fiber network itself.

Speaker 2 (01:57:05):
They'll get to that.

Speaker 3 (01:57:06):
But they're not rolling a truck because your in laws
do not have landlines.

Speaker 2 (01:57:14):
I'm not happy about it. I wish I.

Speaker 3 (01:57:16):
Could wave my magic wand and fix it. I swear
to God I do. I can't do it because they're
they just aren't supporting it. Floyd, you know, please don't
please don't hear this as me not wanting to help you.

Speaker 2 (01:57:35):
We're still gonna put in a.

Speaker 18 (01:57:36):
Call Tom, Tom, Tom, calm yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:57:41):
You know what I'm I'm by.

Speaker 3 (01:57:43):
Nobody tells me to calm myself. Go to hell, I'll
get as excited as I want the last I have
to You know what I used to have to take that.
I don't have to take that anymore. It's called divorce.
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Speaker 2 (01:58:09):
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Speaker 3 (01:58:12):
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Speaker 2 (01:58:44):
Eight two five five. Okay, back to the texting.

Speaker 3 (01:58:48):
By the way, um, and by the way, I do
look at the other text as well. Somebody asked me
that five seven seven three nine, So let me go there.
But people seem to be texting me, mostly on my
Google phone, which comes right to my way to my
cell phone and you can do that twenty four to seven.

(01:59:08):
By the way, it hasn't been abused. People are asking
decent questions. That's seven four seven. Now on the regular
text I have one. Maybe with normal hybrids you have
each system not working harder to move the car, and they.

Speaker 2 (01:59:23):
Support each other.

Speaker 3 (01:59:24):
Maybe that's why there's less problems with hybrids than with
all electric or all gasoline.

Speaker 2 (01:59:29):
That could be. That could be.

Speaker 3 (01:59:32):
Now on a question here on Okay, this person we've
heard about this. I don't know if you guys remember it.
This person was notified by Uber that they owed for
vomiting in a car, and they deducted from their credit card.

Speaker 2 (01:59:58):
Money for damages.

Speaker 3 (02:00:01):
Now, this happens to be something we've heard about, not once,
not twice, but about three or four times.

Speaker 2 (02:00:08):
So I started looking into it.

Speaker 3 (02:00:11):
Now in other cities they call it the vomit scam.

Speaker 2 (02:00:15):
And there's a way to fight it. I'm not kidding.

Speaker 3 (02:00:17):
The vomit scam is where a rideshare driver puts in
for extra money for so called damages, saying that you
vomited in their car. What happens is they get extra money,
and of course no vomit, no cleanup.

Speaker 2 (02:00:35):
They prockit the money.

Speaker 3 (02:00:38):
If your driver has a four or five rating, four
and a half or five rating, you're not probably going
to ever have to worry about that. And however, if
you have a lower rated driver or medium grade driver,
or the car seems a little sketch, or you have
any doubts whatsoever, there's one easy way to combat this.

(02:00:58):
Because your phone made it. Tags every picture, take a
pic before you exit.

Speaker 10 (02:01:06):
Com do almost all the all of the clips I've
seen on YouTube with Uber and Lyft, drivers have cameras
on the inside of the car to protect themselves from
allegations of misbehavior.

Speaker 3 (02:01:20):
Hold on, So I'm just saying, if the guy wants
to do the vomit scam, if a driver wants to
pull a scam, you think he's going to say, I
have a camera that shows you doing it. If it doesn't,
he's not going to mention his camera. He's not required
to have the camera. Therefore he'll never mention the camera.
And the driver. What's the passengers are going to say,
I demand to see your camera. He'll say, I don't

(02:01:41):
have one. I mean, yeah, they have they do have cameras,
but they're only going to use it to their advantage.
If they're pulling a scam, you're never going to know
about it. I mean, if you get if you get
a notification that you vomited in a ride share and
you have to pay three hundred bucks for cleanup two
hundred whatever it is, what are the che answers that
they're gonna voluntarily when you say, yeah, well, I think

(02:02:03):
you have a camera, don't you I want to see
the video, They're gonna say, oh yeah, let me show
you the video that doesn't show you vomiting. They're they're
gonna deny it. I mean, these guys are scumbags. We're
not talking about a normal driver. We're talking about someone
who's so nasty that they make something up like this
so they can get an extra one hundred and fifty
three hundred bucks.

Speaker 2 (02:02:20):
Who knows.

Speaker 3 (02:02:21):
But it's called the vomit scam in other cities, and
I've gotten now this is my fourth inquiry about it.
This person's been charged for the for the vomit scam.
I mean that's incredible to me. It's like, Wow, what
kind of I don't know, I mean, what kind.

Speaker 2 (02:02:38):
Of person I got to just write this here Okay.

Speaker 3 (02:02:41):
Now, when you get on these rides heres, there's a
lot of scams, but that's definitely one that when when
you see when you hear one of them, you think, okay,
maybe the guy didn't he doesn't even remember. But when
you start hearing them over and over again, then a
pattern develops. Ye pattern actually develops for your saying what
the heck is going on? Three zero three seven one

(02:03:05):
three talks seven one three eight two five five. Now
somebody with a timeshare says, I'm not I was looking
to get out of my time share, but now I
got an offer to rent it. Okay, there's only one
thing worse than having a time share, and that is
renting your time share. Yeah, having two or renting or

(02:03:29):
renting your time share through one of these agencies because
they want them to pay upfront for the advertising and
all of that.

Speaker 2 (02:03:35):
No, no, renting is hard enough, folks.

Speaker 3 (02:03:37):
I know a lot of people that have vacation rentals,
but they have real vacation you know, they have a
real home or a real condo of their own. They
own it one hundred percent and they have a management
company and they rent it out.

Speaker 2 (02:03:49):
I mean, I know a lot of.

Speaker 3 (02:03:50):
People who love doing that and they or they have
other homes that they rent out, but they do it
like a real rental. Don't ever go through these agencies.
And this is something fair to say. Almost everything involved
with time shares is a scam.

Speaker 2 (02:04:06):
How about that? Almost every single thing involved.

Speaker 3 (02:04:09):
That's the buying, the selling, the renting, the listing, because
a lot of people will call you and say, well
list it. We have a lot of buyers standing in line.
So don't pay any money upfront, not for any of them.
And these people who promise to get you out of
time shares, there are some legit people that.

Speaker 2 (02:04:27):
Can get you out of a timeshare, But did you
know how they operate? Do you really know how they operate?
How do you think they do this?

Speaker 3 (02:04:38):
I'm gonna tell you a story about the true inside.
This is inside information on the timeshare liquidation industry. It's
now an industry and you're going to be shocked because
you can go into the business tomorrow if you want,

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(02:05:52):
you want to sell your carm I do?

Speaker 13 (02:05:55):
Are you interested in a twenty four year old beautiful
blue Jeep Grand Turkey ser.

Speaker 3 (02:06:02):
So, the GEF, the Grand Cherokee two thousand. That's just
the regular SUV, right, I like what they call jeep jeeps.

Speaker 2 (02:06:11):
But no I'm not. But somebody listening right now? Is
I know it? I can feel it in my bones.
So what's the deal? What is it?

Speaker 13 (02:06:21):
It's a blue V eight jeep Grand Cherokee for looking
for a site to sell them on Facebook or how many.

Speaker 3 (02:06:28):
Well, first of all, okay, I'm just going to tell
you this. You set yourself up for ripoffs on Craigslist
and Facebook Marketplace, two of the biggest areas of ripoffs
in the world. Okay, that doesn't mean that doesn't mean
you don't get a crap load of eyeballs and you
can't possibly sell it. I would be foolish to say

(02:06:48):
you can't sell it that way. It's just a pain
in the ass.

Speaker 2 (02:06:52):
But you'll get a lot of people, just like with eBay.

Speaker 3 (02:06:58):
But you got to protect yourself. That the main thing
is protecting yourself. Finding the eyeballs with today's technology is easy.
It's going to be easy. So put it on marketplace,
put it on Craigslist. But then know the difference of
scams and a scam. There's so many scams. First of all,
you only meet in public, and the second wall, you

(02:07:18):
never let them take the car, and if they want
to get the car checked, you have to go to
their mcket. You can't let them take it. And then
when it comes to when it comes to payment, it's
got to be cash or you have to literally be
at their bank with their cashiers check if they want
to do a cashiers check. But then when you're at
their bank, you can do cash or they can issue

(02:07:41):
a cashiers check to you at the bank.

Speaker 2 (02:07:43):
That would be fine.

Speaker 3 (02:07:44):
Or you can wire funds, but most of the time
people don't know how to really verify a wire, so
that's not necessarily great.

Speaker 2 (02:07:52):
I wouldn't do venmo. How much do you.

Speaker 3 (02:07:54):
Want for this car before grand? Four grand? How many
miles on it?

Speaker 2 (02:08:03):
Five? And what's been done to it?

Speaker 13 (02:08:06):
It's got new breaks, fuel ejectors, spark plugs, belt and whatnot,
free shape, it's been garage most of it's black.

Speaker 2 (02:08:12):
But does that have a time though a change?

Speaker 5 (02:08:17):
It's got the timing change okay, so.

Speaker 2 (02:08:18):
You don't have to change it, okay? And is it
in good? Does it look good?

Speaker 13 (02:08:23):
Does it's a great condition?

Speaker 6 (02:08:25):
No?

Speaker 13 (02:08:25):
Russ and whatnot?

Speaker 2 (02:08:26):
All right?

Speaker 13 (02:08:26):
Limits is in the interior, but overall it's in great shape.

Speaker 2 (02:08:30):
All right. So listen, if we're if you're going to
sell this for four grand, you shouldn't have you shouldn't
have a problem selling it for four grand. I mean no,
I mean not really, So what what part of town
are you in.

Speaker 13 (02:08:46):
Southeast Aurora?

Speaker 3 (02:08:47):
I mean that, can you know? Finding a car for
under five grand nowadays is a miracle.

Speaker 2 (02:08:53):
It is.

Speaker 3 (02:08:53):
But it's got high mileage, there's no doubt about it.
And that's just a little that's just a little. Uh Wait,
is that that's not a V eight?

Speaker 2 (02:09:01):
Is it?

Speaker 13 (02:09:03):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (02:09:03):
That's not bad engine, that's not bad. That's a V eight.
What do you think? What do you think they're selling
for similar ones?

Speaker 17 (02:09:13):
Oh?

Speaker 13 (02:09:13):
On a KBB, which is always a hit or miss.
He's saying anywhere from three to five thousands.

Speaker 3 (02:09:19):
So well, man, I don't know what you're looking at,
but I'm seeing them for way more than that.

Speaker 13 (02:09:25):
Oh wow, okay, I mean I'm seeing them.

Speaker 2 (02:09:28):
You know. I love cars dot Com.

Speaker 3 (02:09:30):
They're pretty accurate and they cars dot com keeps track
of everything, and what they do is then they give
you a gauge on whether it's a good a good
deal or not.

Speaker 2 (02:09:39):
And yours is an extra screaming deal. Did you know that?
Maybe you didn't know that, bro.

Speaker 13 (02:09:46):
No, it's good to know. I'll check out cars dot com.
That's very helpful.

Speaker 2 (02:09:49):
Tom.

Speaker 3 (02:09:49):
No, you know what, Yeah, I think I think it's
understand But listen, if somebody right now, you leave your number.
If somebody right now listening wants a two thousand grand share,
one hundred and eighty five thousand miles been maintained, and
I'm looking. I'm not trying to sell it. I'm not
going to give it any I'm not going to say
it's good or bad. I will say this, as far
as price goes, I don't know, man, that is very

(02:10:14):
Is it the Grand Cherokee L or Grand Cherokee Plane?
Jaron Caerry XC which one?

Speaker 13 (02:10:19):
It's the Laredo Edition, so not the limited, but the Laredo.

Speaker 2 (02:10:23):
I wonder what designation that is? Is that the L?
Maybe I don't know Grand Cherokee and.

Speaker 13 (02:10:29):
Go ahead, Hey this is about twenty four years old,
so well if they had that in the tooth style, Yeah,
so it's just a Laredos Maybe it is the L.
That's a good point.

Speaker 3 (02:10:37):
But I will say this, Look, you are asking way
under the market. Okay, I think you're underestimating. Well, I
think you're underestimating what the self were right now. Okay, again,
I'm not telling you to raise the price. I'd love
one of my listeners to get a great deal, but
I think you're.

Speaker 13 (02:10:57):
There's there's an incentive out there for people who are
a low income can trade in an old twelve year
old or older car for an EV and get six
thousand from the state. So you know, here's almost someone
does it, right, they could get an extra.

Speaker 3 (02:11:12):
CA hold on if they get to EV credit. Don't
they have to get it for what they actually for
the EV though?

Speaker 2 (02:11:17):
Right? They can't. They can't take an EV credit and
buy another car.

Speaker 13 (02:11:22):
No, no, they would take They would buy this jeep
and then trade it in for an EV. So it's
just a step into the EV market if you will.

Speaker 2 (02:11:28):
Oh, I never thought of that. Why don't you do that?

Speaker 13 (02:11:33):
I'm unfortunately not low income, so knock on wood, I'm
very fortunate.

Speaker 3 (02:11:37):
Okay, Well, you know I'm looking at some of these
that are as low as yours. No, no, they're they're
all higher, but they're they're only a little higher. And
then I'm looking at some that are way higher. So
I don't even know how they're pricing these damn things.
It might just be on condition and is your is
your condition? Are the seats all good?

Speaker 15 (02:12:00):
Oh?

Speaker 13 (02:12:00):
Yeah, they really are. The seats are good, and interiors
in great shape and whatnot. It's been very well made.

Speaker 2 (02:12:05):
Any ding, I mean, any big dents or any bodywork needed.

Speaker 13 (02:12:08):
Nope, nope, nope. There's a couple of little baby Danco
car doors, but nothing major. It's honestly in good condition.

Speaker 2 (02:12:15):
Okay, let me ask you something. Do you want to
give out your number?

Speaker 13 (02:12:21):
Give it off the air if that's okay, interested.

Speaker 2 (02:12:23):
If anyone's interested, okay, hang on.

Speaker 3 (02:12:26):
Hey, you know, folks, it's not the screaming screening deal
of the century, but it's definitely below market. Four grand
for that, I mean, if it's if it's in good shape,
have it checked out, people, don't, don't rely on me.
Go with a sure thing Denver's Best roofer Excel Roofing
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Speaker 2 (02:12:42):
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Speaker 3 (02:12:48):
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all three nine two zero sixteen twenty two Hi, Tom

(02:13:14):
Martino here three O three seven one three talk seven
one three eight two five five. Welcome to the show.
Today is Deputy day Man. We've had nothing but deputies.
We've been sparse a little on calls, but we've had
a ton of texts and other topics. And I did
not I did not finish the bad restaurant habits. Okay,

(02:13:36):
so hold on, so I said, first, they complained about
their dish, but they ate most of it, Their kids
roam free, they debate menu prices with the staff, they
stay past the closing hours. Another one, they snapped their fingers,
we said, for servers. Or they bring food or drink outside, oh,
from outside into the restaurant. I've never seen that all

(02:13:59):
once in a while would bring Starbucks into like a
breakfast place.

Speaker 2 (02:14:03):
But then I still order.

Speaker 3 (02:14:05):
They show up fifteen minutes late for a reservation, or
they leave a mess on the table, such as spilled
drinks and food crumbs, Well, come on, all right then,
Or they occupy a table for an extended period of
time during very busy hours and just basically milk it.

Speaker 2 (02:14:19):
And then the other one is.

Speaker 3 (02:14:21):
They flirt with the staff. That's obnoxious. Come on, Stephen,
what's going on? Or is it Stephan Stephen? Hey, what's happening?

Speaker 6 (02:14:32):
Oh? Yes, sir, I foller claim back in May about
the State Farmer about my roof.

Speaker 3 (02:14:42):
Okay, now let me ask you. First of all, do
you go by Stefan, Stefan or Steven?

Speaker 6 (02:14:50):
Everybody calls me Steve.

Speaker 2 (02:14:52):
Okay, Steve, listen, you're calling about your roof? Was this
for a hell damage?

Speaker 6 (02:14:57):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (02:14:58):
Okay? And is the room finished? What's the issue right now?

Speaker 6 (02:15:02):
No? No, no, the roof doesn't. I received the the
roof first estimate nineteen thousand dollars, pictures and everything, and
State Farm sent their ad gesture out on the twenty
ninth of June. And then they send me the the
check for eleven thousand dollars. I guess that's what it is,

(02:15:25):
or a voucher or whatever.

Speaker 2 (02:15:26):
Oh yeah, but then they're going to give you the
rest when it's done, right, yeah, I guess?

Speaker 6 (02:15:32):
So yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:15:33):
Okay, so State Farm sent you eleven grand to get started.

Speaker 2 (02:15:37):
Now what what else happened?

Speaker 6 (02:15:41):
What is it? Their deductibles? Three thousand?

Speaker 2 (02:15:44):
Okay? Did you okay, did you pay the roof for anything?

Speaker 6 (02:15:49):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (02:15:49):
Good? So what's your question?

Speaker 6 (02:15:55):
Do I? I guess I should wait till they call back.

Speaker 2 (02:15:59):
I guess, did you did you sign with this roofer?

Speaker 6 (02:16:05):
Huh?

Speaker 2 (02:16:06):
Did you sign with the roofer? Sign a contract?

Speaker 1 (02:16:09):
No?

Speaker 6 (02:16:09):
Good, I haven't signed anything.

Speaker 2 (02:16:11):
Good, don't sign anything. Who is the roofer?

Speaker 6 (02:16:14):
I just got I just got the rest of it. Picture.

Speaker 2 (02:16:17):
Who is the roofer? Who's the roofer?

Speaker 6 (02:16:23):
Uh? I can't remember the name, but just stay farm.
They don't work for safe firm, but they furnished the
a A company to come out.

Speaker 3 (02:16:35):
Okay, Steven, please listen to me. Don't use that roofer.
I'm going to automatically tell you that if State Farm
Insurance recommended the roofer, do not use them.

Speaker 2 (02:16:49):
I can just say that.

Speaker 6 (02:16:50):
As a jet.

Speaker 5 (02:16:51):
What's that I said?

Speaker 6 (02:16:53):
I haven't yet.

Speaker 3 (02:16:53):
I will give you the name of a roofer, one
reliable where you don't pay one penny, not one until
the job's completely done.

Speaker 6 (02:17:04):
Has that Red Rocks Roofing?

Speaker 3 (02:17:05):
No? Well, no, they do solo. They do red Rock
roof and so it's Excel Roofing. Take down this number.
I'm serious, Okay, I don't want to see anybody ripped off.

Speaker 2 (02:17:14):
I want you to call these people.

Speaker 3 (02:17:16):
Okay, just please call them and tell them Tom told look,
I don't get a dime for that. I want you
to call them, but tell them I told you to
call and it's three oh three seven six one sixty
four hundred and you.

Speaker 2 (02:17:31):
Have you will I can.

Speaker 3 (02:17:32):
I know that if I send you to them, I
don't have to worry about anything.

Speaker 2 (02:17:36):
They're not gonna take any money. They're not gonna take
a penny. They're not gonna do anything. All they're gonna.

Speaker 3 (02:17:42):
Do is is do your roof the right way, and
when it's done, they'll collect.

Speaker 1 (02:17:49):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (02:17:50):
I'm supposed to do some got to repair.

Speaker 3 (02:17:53):
Too, they'll do that too. I'm telling you, I'm gonna
just tell you this once. If you use the insurance
come but he's preferred roofer, you will be screwed like
it or not.

Speaker 2 (02:18:07):
I'm telling you that straight up front.

Speaker 3 (02:18:09):
Your insurance company does not, especially State Farm, does not
have your best interest at heart.

Speaker 6 (02:18:17):
I know that too extensive.

Speaker 3 (02:18:19):
Yeah, well that's another thing. When you're done with State
Farm in this claim, you should do an insurance checkup.
And I'm serious, you make sure you're not paying too much. Sure,
that's all right, Compass. See you've listened enough. You know
what you're doing. So call Excel Roofing seven sixty one
sixty four hundred. Then call when you're all done and
get get an insurance checkup to see if you can

(02:18:42):
get better insurance rates, because I'm almost sure you can,
but not all the time. Sometimes they can't beat State Farm.
Sometimes they can. It depends on the situation. And that's
three oh three nine nine six.

Speaker 2 (02:18:57):
So I just feel that.

Speaker 3 (02:19:01):
That I could have saved this guy in big trouble
because what happens with a preferred roofer.

Speaker 2 (02:19:06):
A preferred roofer is preferred for.

Speaker 3 (02:19:08):
A reason because they're not going to argue with State Farm.
So if State Farm says we don't need to do this,
don't do that, new flashing, don't do this, don't do that,
then they'll say okay, because they want to stay preferred.
By the way, we're out of time. I want to
tell you to remember the number and use it. Three

(02:19:29):
to zero three Martino. Leave a message. We will get
back to three oh three six two seven eight four
sixty six. Hey, have a great extended weekend if you're
taking off money, and save all your problems for me.