March 31, 2025 • 9 mins
GOP Strategist Terry Schilling covers a range of political topics including an important election coming up
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On the Legacy Retirement Group dot Com phone line eight.
(00:02):
Ten minutes after eight o'clock. We're joined by Terry Shilling,
American Principles Project.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Terry, how are you? How is the weekend?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Good morning, Mike. It was great and I'm really excited
to you here. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Absolutely, it's the story locally, but it has some national.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Vibes about it.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
The Tesla dealership here in Columbus, at the Easton Town Center,
we had a bunch of protesters there over the weekend.
Hundreds of folks were speaking out against Elon Musk and
Doze and apparently, you know, folks that are protesting are
protesting eliminating fraud and waste, and they actually like it.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
They like their fraud, they like their ways.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Terry that some of the signs that were kind of
funny saying, you know, nobody elected Elon, which makes me
laugh because also nobody elected Kamala Harris in a primary,
and that's presumably the person that they all voted for.
But yeah, this protesting at the Tesla dealerships is is
just to me, it's good comedy.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I don't know about you.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
No, Yeah, it's right, right, I mean, this is like
the worst case of Stockholm syndrome I think I've ever seen.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
I mean, these.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
People are so beaten up and abused and lie to
by their abusers and the media and in Congress. It's
so bad. Who would think that they would be burning
down cars and dealerships. I guess they didn't burn any dealerships,
but they have been burning down these cars everywhere. I
do have a Tesla lot and I've been parking in
my car port just so I get a brand new
(01:32):
house out of the deal if they come for us.
But it's just pathetic, you know. Can't we just do boycotts?
You know, that's what confirms do. We don't like you
putting transgender people like Dylan mulvaney on our beer. We
just won't buy your product anymore. We don't like, you know,
Target doing transgender products that children. We just don't go
to Target. We don't need to burn people's places down,
(01:54):
We don't need to ruin people's lives. Like, let's just
disagree and vote differently at the polls.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Well, that's it. I mean, I'm not a big boycott
guy either. I mean, if I if you start looking
at the ideology of any of the companies of products
that you buy or support, or you know, movie celebrities
you like or music you like. If you start looking
at their politics, there's that is a full time job
and will wear you down and you'll have like five
(02:21):
things that you actually can you know, actually consume, you know,
guilt free. So I'm not a big boycott guy either,
but yeah, if you're going to, if you want to protest,
then then sell Tesla stock, you know, I mean, which
of course, I think Elon only has about fourteen percent
of Tesla stock, but still you want to hurt Elon musk,
sell the stock. Don't burn other people's cars up.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
No, It's that simple. I mean, we were Americans. We're
supposed to be united as one country out out of
many one I plurum asunum. But we got to get
back to working together and having conversations. You know. Again,
we got to stop like hate each other. And I
think a good first step and stopping hating each other
is stopping burning people's cars up, you.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Know, to car bombing.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Terry Shilling American Principles Project dot com and about what
ten days ago, Terry is when the Trump administration announced
they were going to dismantle the Department of Education, and
you know, people are wringing their hands over that move.
And the whole thought there is, let's send all those
decisions back to the States. And really the Department of
Education Terry was just a big They just they funneled
(03:27):
money around, They moved money around, you know, and the
most important components of the Department of Education are going
to stick around with, you know, making sure that there's
money for those who are less fortunate, there's money for
those who need it, there's grants, there's aid. That's not
going to change. But let's get the power as it
should be back to the states.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Your thoughts, No, that's exactly right. So if you're if
you have children that have disabilities and they need special programs,
that's now there's not a single cut being made to
those programs. Those are just going to be handled through
the Department of Health and Human Services like they were
handled before the Department Education was founded in nineteen seventy nine.
But that's exactly right, Mike, is the Department Education doesn't
(04:12):
educate a single child. Only twenty five cents on the
dollar that DOE spends actually makes its way to the
classroom Instead what they've been doing is they've been making
it more difficult for teachers to teach and for parents
to have an influence on their children's education. We need
to get back to local levels, specifically with parents and
local educators. You know, there's this weird divide right now
(04:35):
between parents and teachers, and it's not how it's supposed
to be. There should be like this partnership where parents
are working together with teachers to make sure that their
kids are getting the best education. And the Department Education
I think has been at the forefront of this whole
movement that believes that parents shouldn't be telling schools what
to teach. To quote Terry mccaulluff, who was the failed
(04:58):
governor of Canada. In Virginia, we got to get back
to local level. President Trump should be commended for doing
what so many other Republican presidents just couldn't get done. Well.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I don't know what's happening where you are in your
school systems, Terry, but here people are pulling their kids
out of the Columbus city schools in droves and sending
them to private schools or homeschooling them just because that
is a failing school district. There's failings there. There are
a couple of decent schools, but overall, the Columbus City
School District is failing our kids. Whether it's harmful ideology
(05:30):
or there's no parental input, whatever the case is. People
are saying, you know what, we've had enough, We're going
to take our kids out.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Well, you know, we'll lottery them in.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Elsewhere, We'll do a charter school, we'll send them to
a private school, whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
And it's people are taking notice.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Of this, no they are, and listen, it's bad enough
that these schools, so many of them, are trying to
induction in our children into believing stupid stuff. But it's
even worse because these schools are failing to teach our
kids to read and to write and to do math. Right.
The National Assessment for Educational Progress scores show that only
a third of America's kids can read a grade level right, Like,
(06:11):
that's pathetics. We keep expanding and inflating our education system,
and it's actually, like, think about it. Most kids now
they have to go get a graduate degree and an
advanced degree. That means they're in school until they're thirty.
A third of their life is gone away because they
have to get these advanced degrees just to make ends meet.
Something's wrong with our education.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
System, and we got to go back to the basics, Terry,
Are we passed the Atlantic and the Signal app and
this whole dust up where you know, the journalist was
on the group chat on signal and I actually did
see that the Atlantic magazine conceded that these were not
war plans.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
They had a headline the other day said that they
were quote attack plans. But are we pass this now?
Because that was just a it was just a fun
couple of days there. I think those again, no harm,
no file.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
At the end of the day, no listen.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
I think we are past it. And the key to
getting past something is having a really good comeback that
shuts your enemies up right. And the good combat that
I've seen from President Trump, from Elon, from JD. Vance
and p. Hag Seth is who are these guys to
lecture us on national security? The attack on the who
Thief was a success. Nothing went wrong, it was great,
(07:27):
It went well. Versus we're getting criticized from the Afghanistan people,
the people that bought the Afghanistan withdrawal that got thirteen
were servicemen and women killed who we had a president
who didn't even call the families and invite them to
the White House to honor them in front of the
whole nation. Those are the people that are criticizing is
I think they should take a step back until they
(07:48):
have any bits of you know, any bit of leverage.
Actually they should sit down and shut up.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah, I mean, we do need to investigate and see
what happened there and why this Jeffrey Goldberg was at
to this group chat on this that should have never
happened that. I understand it was a problem, but at
the end of the day, like I said, yeah, it
was a mistake, you learned from it, you move on.
It won't happen again. But you know, no one should
be fired. I mean, no one was fired when there
(08:14):
was a Chinese spy balloon that was allowed to traverse
the entire continental US that the White House initially denied.
I mean, what's a bigger threat that or having a
US citizen on a group chat that he shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Have been.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Exactly, And by the way, it's one of the media's
trusted allies, you know, So I mean, you know, if
there was a mistake made. Obviously, I think there was,
but it was one of the media's guys, so who
better to have it. But listen, we got to stop
playing these Gosha games. Like yeah, left and the right,
they both they find these little bits of controversy and
then they try to blow it up into World War three.
(08:49):
That's what they called it, signal Gate, as if it's
as bad as Watergate, Like, give me a break.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, everyone's trying to score political points here and there.
So real quick, what do you have going on at
the American Principles Project.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Well, we've got this big Wisconsin election. So I know
you guys are in Ohio, but if you guys got
any family of friends in Ohio, we need to win
the Supreme Court race there and the elections tomorrow. We
need everyone to show up and vote, So get out
and turn out. But we've got our always on campaign, Mike,
we are. We are attacking these politicians in real time.
If you vote to put men in girls sports, if
(09:23):
you vote to give kids sex trains procedures that hurt
them and sterilize them, we're gonna come for you, and
we're gonna make sure that your voters know exactly how
you're voting in real time. We're not waiting until September
to start running ends. We're gonna be locking these guys
down from the beginning. Now, we've got everything going and
we're just fighting away
On the Legacy Retirement Group dot Com phone line eight.
(00:02):
Ten minutes after eight o'clock. We're joined by Terry Shilling,
American Principles Project.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Terry, how are you? How is the weekend?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Good morning, Mike. It was great and I'm really excited
to you here. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Absolutely, it's the story locally, but it has some national.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Vibes about it.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
The Tesla dealership here in Columbus, at the Easton Town Center,
we had a bunch of protesters there over the weekend.
Hundreds of folks were speaking out against Elon Musk and
Doze and apparently, you know, folks that are protesting are
protesting eliminating fraud and waste, and they actually like it.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
They like their fraud, they like their ways.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Terry that some of the signs that were kind of
funny saying, you know, nobody elected Elon, which makes me
laugh because also nobody elected Kamala Harris in a primary,
and that's presumably the person that they all voted for.
But yeah, this protesting at the Tesla dealerships is is
just to me, it's good comedy.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I don't know about you.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
No, Yeah, it's right, right, I mean, this is like
the worst case of Stockholm syndrome I think I've ever seen.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
I mean, these.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
People are so beaten up and abused and lie to
by their abusers and the media and in Congress. It's
so bad. Who would think that they would be burning
down cars and dealerships. I guess they didn't burn any dealerships,
but they have been burning down these cars everywhere. I
do have a Tesla lot and I've been parking in
my car port just so I get a brand new
(01:32):
house out of the deal if they come for us.
But it's just pathetic, you know. Can't we just do boycotts?
You know, that's what confirms do. We don't like you
putting transgender people like Dylan mulvaney on our beer. We
just won't buy your product anymore. We don't like, you know,
Target doing transgender products that children. We just don't go
to Target. We don't need to burn people's places down,
(01:54):
We don't need to ruin people's lives. Like, let's just
disagree and vote differently at the polls.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Well, that's it. I mean, I'm not a big boycott
guy either. I mean, if I if you start looking
at the ideology of any of the companies of products
that you buy or support, or you know, movie celebrities
you like or music you like. If you start looking
at their politics, there's that is a full time job
and will wear you down and you'll have like five
(02:21):
things that you actually can you know, actually consume, you know,
guilt free. So I'm not a big boycott guy either,
but yeah, if you're going to, if you want to protest,
then then sell Tesla stock, you know, I mean, which
of course, I think Elon only has about fourteen percent
of Tesla stock, but still you want to hurt Elon musk,
sell the stock. Don't burn other people's cars up.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
No, It's that simple. I mean, we were Americans. We're
supposed to be united as one country out out of
many one I plurum asunum. But we got to get
back to working together and having conversations. You know. Again,
we got to stop like hate each other. And I
think a good first step and stopping hating each other
is stopping burning people's cars up, you.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Know, to car bombing.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Terry Shilling American Principles Project dot com and about what
ten days ago, Terry is when the Trump administration announced
they were going to dismantle the Department of Education, and
you know, people are wringing their hands over that move.
And the whole thought there is, let's send all those
decisions back to the States. And really the Department of
Education Terry was just a big They just they funneled
(03:27):
money around, They moved money around, you know, and the
most important components of the Department of Education are going
to stick around with, you know, making sure that there's
money for those who are less fortunate, there's money for
those who need it, there's grants, there's aid. That's not
going to change. But let's get the power as it
should be back to the states.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Your thoughts, No, that's exactly right. So if you're if
you have children that have disabilities and they need special programs,
that's now there's not a single cut being made to
those programs. Those are just going to be handled through
the Department of Health and Human Services like they were
handled before the Department Education was founded in nineteen seventy nine.
But that's exactly right, Mike, is the Department Education doesn't
(04:12):
educate a single child. Only twenty five cents on the
dollar that DOE spends actually makes its way to the
classroom Instead what they've been doing is they've been making
it more difficult for teachers to teach and for parents
to have an influence on their children's education. We need
to get back to local levels, specifically with parents and
local educators. You know, there's this weird divide right now
(04:35):
between parents and teachers, and it's not how it's supposed
to be. There should be like this partnership where parents
are working together with teachers to make sure that their
kids are getting the best education. And the Department Education
I think has been at the forefront of this whole
movement that believes that parents shouldn't be telling schools what
to teach. To quote Terry mccaulluff, who was the failed
(04:58):
governor of Canada. In Virginia, we got to get back
to local level. President Trump should be commended for doing
what so many other Republican presidents just couldn't get done. Well.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I don't know what's happening where you are in your
school systems, Terry, but here people are pulling their kids
out of the Columbus city schools in droves and sending
them to private schools or homeschooling them just because that
is a failing school district. There's failings there. There are
a couple of decent schools, but overall, the Columbus City
School District is failing our kids. Whether it's harmful ideology
(05:30):
or there's no parental input, whatever the case is. People
are saying, you know what, we've had enough, We're going
to take our kids out.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Well, you know, we'll lottery them in.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Elsewhere, We'll do a charter school, we'll send them to
a private school, whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
And it's people are taking notice.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Of this, no they are, and listen, it's bad enough
that these schools, so many of them, are trying to
induction in our children into believing stupid stuff. But it's
even worse because these schools are failing to teach our
kids to read and to write and to do math. Right.
The National Assessment for Educational Progress scores show that only
a third of America's kids can read a grade level right, Like,
(06:11):
that's pathetics. We keep expanding and inflating our education system,
and it's actually, like, think about it. Most kids now
they have to go get a graduate degree and an
advanced degree. That means they're in school until they're thirty.
A third of their life is gone away because they
have to get these advanced degrees just to make ends meet.
Something's wrong with our education.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
System, and we got to go back to the basics, Terry,
Are we passed the Atlantic and the Signal app and
this whole dust up where you know, the journalist was
on the group chat on signal and I actually did
see that the Atlantic magazine conceded that these were not
war plans.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
They had a headline the other day said that they
were quote attack plans. But are we pass this now?
Because that was just a it was just a fun
couple of days there. I think those again, no harm,
no file.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
At the end of the day, no listen.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
I think we are past it. And the key to
getting past something is having a really good comeback that
shuts your enemies up right. And the good combat that
I've seen from President Trump, from Elon, from JD. Vance
and p. Hag Seth is who are these guys to
lecture us on national security? The attack on the who
Thief was a success. Nothing went wrong, it was great,
(07:27):
It went well. Versus we're getting criticized from the Afghanistan people,
the people that bought the Afghanistan withdrawal that got thirteen
were servicemen and women killed who we had a president
who didn't even call the families and invite them to
the White House to honor them in front of the
whole nation. Those are the people that are criticizing is
I think they should take a step back until they
(07:48):
have any bits of you know, any bit of leverage.
Actually they should sit down and shut up.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah, I mean, we do need to investigate and see
what happened there and why this Jeffrey Goldberg was at
to this group chat on this that should have never
happened that. I understand it was a problem, but at
the end of the day, like I said, yeah, it
was a mistake, you learned from it, you move on.
It won't happen again. But you know, no one should
be fired. I mean, no one was fired when there
(08:14):
was a Chinese spy balloon that was allowed to traverse
the entire continental US that the White House initially denied.
I mean, what's a bigger threat that or having a
US citizen on a group chat that he shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Have been.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Exactly, And by the way, it's one of the media's
trusted allies, you know, So I mean, you know, if
there was a mistake made. Obviously, I think there was,
but it was one of the media's guys, so who
better to have it. But listen, we got to stop
playing these Gosha games. Like yeah, left and the right,
they both they find these little bits of controversy and
then they try to blow it up into World War three.
(08:49):
That's what they called it, signal Gate, as if it's
as bad as Watergate, Like, give me a break.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, everyone's trying to score political points here and there.
So real quick, what do you have going on at
the American Principles Project.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Well, we've got this big Wisconsin election. So I know
you guys are in Ohio, but if you guys got
any family of friends in Ohio, we need to win
the Supreme Court race there and the elections tomorrow. We
need everyone to show up and vote, So get out
and turn out. But we've got our always on campaign, Mike,
we are. We are attacking these politicians in real time.
If you vote to put men in girls sports, if
(09:23):
you vote to give kids sex trains procedures that hurt
them and sterilize them, we're gonna come for you, and
we're gonna make sure that your voters know exactly how
you're voting in real time. We're not waiting until September
to start running ends. We're gonna be locking these guys
down from the beginning. Now, we've got everything going and
we're just fighting away
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