October 14, 2025 • 7 mins
Aviation Expert Jay Ratliff has the latest travel news including a passenger jet comes within 6 minutes of running out of fuel!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, lit't up over to the Legacy Retirement Group
(00:02):
dot com phone line and check in with our aviation expert.
You can find them at Jratlift dot com All Things Aviation, Jay,
Good morning, How are you, sir?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Pleasant? Good morning? I was thinking as you were talking
about the king stuff. I read a really good book
on Abraham Lincoln for Michael Berlin Game. It's like seven
hundred pages. It's an extensive work. They called Abraham Lincoln
King Lincoln?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Did they really?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
They actually thought that if you lost the election, he
would refuse to leave off office. You had newspapers calling
for his assassination. That's why when people say, oh, Jay,
this is worse it's ever been, it's like, well, a
quick glance at history would suggest otherwise. But I guess
the failed game plan for now centuries is to call
whoever's in office king. It was ridiculous then and ridiculous now.
(00:49):
But I would like to thank the seventy seven million
people who helped make yesterday's peace thing possible.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Absolutely right, and back to the Lincoln book you read.
Lincoln is now regarded as one of our best presidents.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
So absolutely, and at the time he didn't start out
that way, but again, a lot of stuff. I mean,
he went through depression, had his personal battles that he
had to deal with, and on a lot of different fronts,
and of course trying to keep the nation together. But
it was just amazing reading that that account as I did,
and it took a while, obviously to dig through that
(01:23):
many pages of just how much of that You could
put President Trump's name in that book and it would
have fit perfectly with regards to the attacks and the
names and everything else that you know that's been called
and that was, you know, a gazillion years ago, and
here we are still trying to use that same adopted,
failed game plan. You if it has worked for two
(01:44):
hundred years, Yeah, come, I mean, come on, you know
it's probably not gonna work now.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
It's really it was the name of the book again, It's.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Just it was Michael Berlin game. I think it was
A life Abraham Lincoln. A life, I think it was.
It's seven hundred and eighty pages or so. It's a
it's a huge work and it's one of the most
extensive things I've ever seen on Abraham Lincoln.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Wow, I'll have to check that out, all right. We
could we could probably talk politics if you'd like. But
some aviation news out there. Boy, I saw this video
this American Airlines groundworker lost control of a refueling hose.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
That seems like a nightmare situation.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah, we don't know if it was something mechanically that broke,
but you know, the airports are just so conveniently designed
with all those windows so everybody can see everything that
happens on the ground, right, And what happens is you
see this this this fuel hose come undone and it's
viewing fuel all over. It's like a snake that's you know,
going crazy, and you have all of that fuel, which
(02:42):
of course then becomes a multiple issue. You have the
obvious worry over Okay, this stuff could explode and that
could cause all kinds of problems. Plusly when you've got
an aircraft full of fuel and a fuel truck or
a fuel system that's right there. And then of course
you have the hazardous materials when the fire department show
up to rid that tarmac of the jet fuel. Where's
(03:05):
it going to go and is it going to be
something that's going to create a hazardous material environmental issue?
Because it's one thing when you go to the de
icing pad and all the fluids are collected where they
are kept out of the local streams and things of
this nature. But when you have a fuel leak like
that on the tarmac, you have to be very careful
about how it's contained and everything else, because you know,
(03:26):
you don't want all the fish turning blue in the
local creek. So there's a lot of things that happened
very fast. But I mean, your obvious and media concern is,
you know, this is a very dangerous situation and you've
got to get it contained as quickly as possible. But
that video is a wild video to watch.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Now, are all of these airline mishaps now going to
be blamed on the government shut down and air tragic?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I do think that this was President Trump's fault. I had, Well,
what happened was the guy that was doing it was
so concerned over climate change in the political unrest that
he just got distracted and endangered the lives of all
those people. Maybe that wasn't the exact barting in the
press release, but it just it bothers me because you know,
(04:09):
a lot of times when there's turbulent, turbulent stories that
are out there invariably I'm reading something and I'm saying
to myself, wait for it, wait for it. Wait, oh,
here it is due to climate change. There's more turbulence
now than ever. And again, I hate to, you know,
throw facts into such a colorful story, but when you
(04:29):
look at you know, many many years ago, twenty thirty
years ago, when instances where we had more turbulent events,
more turbulent injuries than we do now, at a time
now where we have far more flights in the air
than back then, it would suggest that maybe that narrative
could be just slightly off.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Yeah, don't let the facts get in the way of
the truth.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Jake tell me that on day one. Jay not let
the fact in the West.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I haven't talked to that guy a time.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I miss him. Many enjoyed me when he's around. He
he's a good guy.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
He hired me a million years ago.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
So what's the story with the passenger jet that came
within six minutes of running out of fuel?
Speaker 2 (05:11):
This was a Ryan Air flight that was flying in
They came into land at their designated airport and what
ended up taking place was that the weather prevented them
from landing. It was in Italy, to Scotland flight on
Ryan Air and Ryan's a discount carrier in Europe, so
they couldn't land and they had to divert to their
(05:33):
secondary airport, which is not a problem. They had weather
issues there. They tried two landings and could not had
to go to a third airport to land in Manchester,
and at this point in time they are two hours
past their first attempted landing. Now, when you are talking
about how much fuel is on board and aircraft, you
have enough fuel to get to your destination, get to
(05:55):
your designating or your alternate location, in essence, sometimes thirty
to ninety minutes of fuel extra on board the aircraft
as an additional safety measure. They were burning through all
of this. So when they finally landed in Manchester and
the conditions were not ideal because of the weather, but
they had to land anyways, they turned that airplane off
(06:16):
and realized that they had six minutes of fuel left
on that aircraft. So while passengers were being annoyed over
the delay, not knowing what was going on upfront, I
can tell you the crew was very very much aware
of how much fuel was on board that aircraft and
the need for getting it on the ground as quickly
and obviously as safely as they could because they had
all those previous multiple landings that it was simply just
(06:39):
not safe, and they said, we're not going to do it.
Not going to do it. So, you know, the crew
might be looked at as being reckless, but what I'm
saying is they made sure everybody wasn't put in danger
by trying to land in some incredibly high cross winds
that could have caused an accent where there could have
been injuries or fatalities had they tried to land
All right, lit't up over to the Legacy Retirement Group
(00:02):
dot com phone line and check in with our aviation expert.
You can find them at Jratlift dot com All Things Aviation, Jay,
Good morning, How are you, sir?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Pleasant? Good morning? I was thinking as you were talking
about the king stuff. I read a really good book
on Abraham Lincoln for Michael Berlin Game. It's like seven
hundred pages. It's an extensive work. They called Abraham Lincoln
King Lincoln?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Did they really?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
They actually thought that if you lost the election, he
would refuse to leave off office. You had newspapers calling
for his assassination. That's why when people say, oh, Jay,
this is worse it's ever been, it's like, well, a
quick glance at history would suggest otherwise. But I guess
the failed game plan for now centuries is to call
whoever's in office king. It was ridiculous then and ridiculous now.
(00:49):
But I would like to thank the seventy seven million
people who helped make yesterday's peace thing possible.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Absolutely right, and back to the Lincoln book you read.
Lincoln is now regarded as one of our best presidents.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
So absolutely, and at the time he didn't start out
that way, but again, a lot of stuff. I mean,
he went through depression, had his personal battles that he
had to deal with, and on a lot of different fronts,
and of course trying to keep the nation together. But
it was just amazing reading that that account as I did,
and it took a while, obviously to dig through that
(01:23):
many pages of just how much of that You could
put President Trump's name in that book and it would
have fit perfectly with regards to the attacks and the
names and everything else that you know that's been called
and that was, you know, a gazillion years ago, and
here we are still trying to use that same adopted,
failed game plan. You if it has worked for two
(01:44):
hundred years, Yeah, come, I mean, come on, you know
it's probably not gonna work now.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
It's really it was the name of the book again, It's.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Just it was Michael Berlin game. I think it was
A life Abraham Lincoln. A life, I think it was.
It's seven hundred and eighty pages or so. It's a
it's a huge work and it's one of the most
extensive things I've ever seen on Abraham Lincoln.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Wow, I'll have to check that out, all right. We
could we could probably talk politics if you'd like. But
some aviation news out there. Boy, I saw this video
this American Airlines groundworker lost control of a refueling hose.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
That seems like a nightmare situation.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah, we don't know if it was something mechanically that broke,
but you know, the airports are just so conveniently designed
with all those windows so everybody can see everything that
happens on the ground, right, And what happens is you
see this this this fuel hose come undone and it's
viewing fuel all over. It's like a snake that's you know,
going crazy, and you have all of that fuel, which
(02:42):
of course then becomes a multiple issue. You have the
obvious worry over Okay, this stuff could explode and that
could cause all kinds of problems. Plusly when you've got
an aircraft full of fuel and a fuel truck or
a fuel system that's right there. And then of course
you have the hazardous materials when the fire department show
up to rid that tarmac of the jet fuel. Where's
(03:05):
it going to go and is it going to be
something that's going to create a hazardous material environmental issue?
Because it's one thing when you go to the de
icing pad and all the fluids are collected where they
are kept out of the local streams and things of
this nature. But when you have a fuel leak like
that on the tarmac, you have to be very careful
about how it's contained and everything else, because you know,
(03:26):
you don't want all the fish turning blue in the
local creek. So there's a lot of things that happened
very fast. But I mean, your obvious and media concern is,
you know, this is a very dangerous situation and you've
got to get it contained as quickly as possible. But
that video is a wild video to watch.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Now, are all of these airline mishaps now going to
be blamed on the government shut down and air tragic?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I do think that this was President Trump's fault. I had, Well,
what happened was the guy that was doing it was
so concerned over climate change in the political unrest that
he just got distracted and endangered the lives of all
those people. Maybe that wasn't the exact barting in the
press release, but it just it bothers me because you know,
(04:09):
a lot of times when there's turbulent, turbulent stories that
are out there invariably I'm reading something and I'm saying
to myself, wait for it, wait for it. Wait, oh,
here it is due to climate change. There's more turbulence
now than ever. And again, I hate to, you know,
throw facts into such a colorful story, but when you
(04:29):
look at you know, many many years ago, twenty thirty
years ago, when instances where we had more turbulent events,
more turbulent injuries than we do now, at a time
now where we have far more flights in the air
than back then, it would suggest that maybe that narrative
could be just slightly off.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Yeah, don't let the facts get in the way of
the truth.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Jake tell me that on day one. Jay not let
the fact in the West.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I haven't talked to that guy a time.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I miss him. Many enjoyed me when he's around. He
he's a good guy.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
He hired me a million years ago.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
So what's the story with the passenger jet that came
within six minutes of running out of fuel?
Speaker 2 (05:11):
This was a Ryan Air flight that was flying in
They came into land at their designated airport and what
ended up taking place was that the weather prevented them
from landing. It was in Italy, to Scotland flight on
Ryan Air and Ryan's a discount carrier in Europe, so
they couldn't land and they had to divert to their
(05:33):
secondary airport, which is not a problem. They had weather
issues there. They tried two landings and could not had
to go to a third airport to land in Manchester,
and at this point in time they are two hours
past their first attempted landing. Now, when you are talking
about how much fuel is on board and aircraft, you
have enough fuel to get to your destination, get to
(05:55):
your designating or your alternate location, in essence, sometimes thirty
to ninety minutes of fuel extra on board the aircraft
as an additional safety measure. They were burning through all
of this. So when they finally landed in Manchester and
the conditions were not ideal because of the weather, but
they had to land anyways, they turned that airplane off
(06:16):
and realized that they had six minutes of fuel left
on that aircraft. So while passengers were being annoyed over
the delay, not knowing what was going on upfront, I
can tell you the crew was very very much aware
of how much fuel was on board that aircraft and
the need for getting it on the ground as quickly
and obviously as safely as they could because they had
all those previous multiple landings that it was simply just
(06:39):
not safe, and they said, we're not going to do it.
Not going to do it. So, you know, the crew
might be looked at as being reckless, but what I'm
saying is they made sure everybody wasn't put in danger
by trying to land in some incredibly high cross winds
that could have caused an accent where there could have
been injuries or fatalities had they tried to land
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