October 9, 2025 • 8 mins
Conservative reporter Victoria Churchill of Young Voices loos deep into some of these protesters around the country
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On the Legacy Retirement Group dot com phone line. Let's
welcome in Victoria Churchill from Young Voices back to the program.
Good to talk to you again, Victoria. How are you
this morning.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I'm doing great. Thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Absolutely, I wanted to talk about Portland and what is
going on there. The story is, in my view, being underreported,
and we wanted to have you on to kind of
highlight what's going on there with the anti ice protesters.
There was a journalist, conservative journalist. His name is Nick Sorder.
He was just this sentence doesn't even click with me.
(00:33):
He was arrested after rescuing a burning American flag from
anti ice protesters. Actually protesters isn't even in the right word,
anti ice terrorists. So he rescued a burning flag and
then he was detained. When did that become a crime.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Well, you know, that's a very good question. It really
seems to me like in these liberal cities there is
this idea of this two tier system of justice. And
you know, this isn't just something that I think, this
is something that permeates all throughout Trump administration. Just this
past week, two days ago, we had Attorney General Pam
Bondi on Capitol Hill testifying about the goings on in
(01:16):
the Justice Department and really I think in large part
shedding a light and to what went on particularly during
the Biden administration that her team has had to kind
of go in and clean up and figure out what
was happening, particularly with the FBI and the DJ And
you know, just yesterday President Trump had journalists that had
(01:38):
faced Antifa in the face. You know, this group that
some people on the left think doesn't even exist. You know,
I'm on Sundays on this show on gb News. It's
a debate show, and you know it's myself who's more
on the conservative side, and then the other guests it's
more of a liberal. And he said now two weeks
in a row that he doesn't think Antifa exists, which
(01:58):
you know, I think if you talk to these journalists
that were at the White House earlier this week, they're
going to say it very much exists. They've faced them personally.
And if it wasn't for them going out and doing
this journalism that a lot of the times has had them,
you know, have physical harm, they've gotten in legal trouble,
and of course with sorder, he actually had his case,
(02:19):
you know, kind of dismissed after he got arrested, But
just the fact that he did get arrested initially, I
think is a reason to ask questions.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Absolutely, anti ice, Antifa, whatever you want to call them,
they absolutely do exist, and cities like Portland, and you know,
looking at the situation there, you see state leaders and
local leaders in Portland. I saw a clip of some
guy yesterday. I don't know if he was the mayor
of Portland or the governor of Oregon or who he was,
but he said, there's nothing to see here if we
(02:49):
pull back. He's like, there's people riding their bikes and
they're going for walks, and they're having coffees and going
to farmers' markets. I mean, maybe in the liberal suburbs
there's nothing going on. Are absolutely are problems with antifa
or anti ice in downtown Portland and it continues, you.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Know, it absolutely does continue. And here's the thing, and
this is something that I heard one of the journalists
talking about during this White House White round table earlier
this week, is that he's actually interviewed the same person
in multiple cities at these protests. And so I think
that really goes to show that there does seem to
be some kind of coordinated effort behind it. You know, earlier,
(03:31):
just a couple of years ago, there was the you know,
the stop Coop City protests in Atlanta, for example, and
I believe that during those riots and protests that there
was a lot of people that were arrested that lived
nowhere in the area. And you know, these these activities
keep popping up all over the country. Just earlier this year,
of course, we had the Los Angeles protests, and you know,
(03:56):
Chicago now, I'm sure there will be even more protests
of course, as National Guard is sending there. And so
I think it really makes you wonder how do these
people get these resources to go from city to city
and really cause carnage.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
It's a great question. Victoria Tuchil from Young Voices. So yeah,
so let's follow the money here. These are professionals. These
aren't folks who have full time jobs. Then they just
do this in their free time where they go into
the basement or a garage and they spray paint a sign,
an anti Trump sign or something. These are well funded professionals.
(04:29):
I mean, tactical gear is not cheap. So follow the money.
Where are they getting the cash to do this.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Well, you know, that's a good question. I think this
is something that the Trump administration has said multiple times,
even multiple times this week, that they plan to look
into these funding networks and see what happens. You know,
conservative journalists have been reporting on strains of it here
or there that you know, an organization said it's funded
by some major foundation, right, and then the foundation typically
(04:58):
doesn't have to disclose it. But I think there are
still other ways to figure out what kinds of donors
fund those foundations, and you know.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Go from there.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Also, you can look at political donations, which of course
are public, and a lot of the times the people
that do have their names on public political donations are
also funding to even higher degrees organizations that are you know,
even in this case, very left wing, and that have
involvement with other organizations. And so you know, you'll say,
(05:31):
there's these nonprofits that are all over the country are
funded by for example, the Open uh, the Open Society Foundation,
which of course has tied to George Soros and now
his son Alex Soros, who seems to be kind of
following in his father's footsteps with a lot of these
organizations that you know, he thinks are great, but I
(05:52):
think if we really look at it objectively, are causing
harm and sewing division all over the country.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
It's really important, Victoria that we have these journalists going
into cities like Portland and Chicago and elsewhere reporting on
what is going on, because if it was left up
to legacy media, we wouldn't hear these stories. So journalists
like Nick Sorder, who was arrested for rescuing a burning
American flag, doing a really good job because if it
(06:19):
was left up to mainstream media, these would be mostly
peaceful protests.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Right absolutely, And again I don't think that you can
have some of these cases and just leave them just
to what they are. You know, for example, I did
a story tied to the Los Angeles protests earlier this
year that there was an organization that had had they
did have a peaceful ice demonstration kind of in the
(06:48):
beginning of that week or so where there was really
the flare ups of Los Angeles. But you know, to
a lot of people, that peaceful demonstration was kind of
the catalyst for what then turned into non peaceful demonstrations,
and that organization, surprisingly actually outside of private donors, that
organization had actually gotten funding from the Department of Homeland
Security during the Biden administration, and so you know, these
(07:11):
webs of funding just have to be untangled. And you know, again,
particularly when it comes to things like government funding that
actually is all public and so that's where you know,
even if you aren't directly in these cities, you can
still have journalism that is impactful. Like I think, you know,
maybe even you guys might have had me on, but
I went on talking to a couple of different radio
(07:32):
stations the week after I put out that reporting that
you know, this this organization had actually had its grant
shut down by the Trump administration just a few months before.
But you know, I think a lot of the times,
these journalists like myself even that can do this work,
that have tied to these protests but not even directly
on the ground, you can shine a light which then
(07:55):
when you have an administration that is willing to look
at this, it actually shows them where to look and
what funding streams to cut off. If you see that
they are tied to listed activities, even if not directly,
that they should serve as a catalyst for those listed activities.
On the Legacy Retirement Group dot com phone line. Let's
welcome in Victoria Churchill from Young Voices back to the program.
Good to talk to you again, Victoria. How are you
this morning.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I'm doing great. Thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Absolutely, I wanted to talk about Portland and what is
going on there. The story is, in my view, being underreported,
and we wanted to have you on to kind of
highlight what's going on there with the anti ice protesters.
There was a journalist, conservative journalist. His name is Nick Sorder.
He was just this sentence doesn't even click with me.
(00:33):
He was arrested after rescuing a burning American flag from
anti ice protesters. Actually protesters isn't even in the right word,
anti ice terrorists. So he rescued a burning flag and
then he was detained. When did that become a crime.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Well, you know, that's a very good question. It really
seems to me like in these liberal cities there is
this idea of this two tier system of justice. And
you know, this isn't just something that I think, this
is something that permeates all throughout Trump administration. Just this
past week, two days ago, we had Attorney General Pam
Bondi on Capitol Hill testifying about the goings on in
(01:16):
the Justice Department and really I think in large part
shedding a light and to what went on particularly during
the Biden administration that her team has had to kind
of go in and clean up and figure out what
was happening, particularly with the FBI and the DJ And
you know, just yesterday President Trump had journalists that had
(01:38):
faced Antifa in the face. You know, this group that
some people on the left think doesn't even exist. You know,
I'm on Sundays on this show on gb News. It's
a debate show, and you know it's myself who's more
on the conservative side, and then the other guests it's
more of a liberal. And he said now two weeks
in a row that he doesn't think Antifa exists, which
(01:58):
you know, I think if you talk to these journalists
that were at the White House earlier this week, they're
going to say it very much exists. They've faced them personally.
And if it wasn't for them going out and doing
this journalism that a lot of the times has had them,
you know, have physical harm, they've gotten in legal trouble,
and of course with sorder, he actually had his case,
(02:19):
you know, kind of dismissed after he got arrested, But
just the fact that he did get arrested initially, I
think is a reason to ask questions.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Absolutely, anti ice, Antifa, whatever you want to call them,
they absolutely do exist, and cities like Portland, and you know,
looking at the situation there, you see state leaders and
local leaders in Portland. I saw a clip of some
guy yesterday. I don't know if he was the mayor
of Portland or the governor of Oregon or who he was,
but he said, there's nothing to see here if we
(02:49):
pull back. He's like, there's people riding their bikes and
they're going for walks, and they're having coffees and going
to farmers' markets. I mean, maybe in the liberal suburbs
there's nothing going on. Are absolutely are problems with antifa
or anti ice in downtown Portland and it continues, you.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Know, it absolutely does continue. And here's the thing, and
this is something that I heard one of the journalists
talking about during this White House White round table earlier
this week, is that he's actually interviewed the same person
in multiple cities at these protests. And so I think
that really goes to show that there does seem to
be some kind of coordinated effort behind it. You know, earlier,
(03:31):
just a couple of years ago, there was the you know,
the stop Coop City protests in Atlanta, for example, and
I believe that during those riots and protests that there
was a lot of people that were arrested that lived
nowhere in the area. And you know, these these activities
keep popping up all over the country. Just earlier this year,
of course, we had the Los Angeles protests, and you know,
(03:56):
Chicago now, I'm sure there will be even more protests
of course, as National Guard is sending there. And so
I think it really makes you wonder how do these
people get these resources to go from city to city
and really cause carnage.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
It's a great question. Victoria Tuchil from Young Voices. So yeah,
so let's follow the money here. These are professionals. These
aren't folks who have full time jobs. Then they just
do this in their free time where they go into
the basement or a garage and they spray paint a sign,
an anti Trump sign or something. These are well funded professionals.
(04:29):
I mean, tactical gear is not cheap. So follow the money.
Where are they getting the cash to do this.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Well, you know, that's a good question. I think this
is something that the Trump administration has said multiple times,
even multiple times this week, that they plan to look
into these funding networks and see what happens. You know,
conservative journalists have been reporting on strains of it here
or there that you know, an organization said it's funded
by some major foundation, right, and then the foundation typically
(04:58):
doesn't have to disclose it. But I think there are
still other ways to figure out what kinds of donors
fund those foundations, and you know.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Go from there.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Also, you can look at political donations, which of course
are public, and a lot of the times the people
that do have their names on public political donations are
also funding to even higher degrees organizations that are you know,
even in this case, very left wing, and that have
involvement with other organizations. And so you know, you'll say,
(05:31):
there's these nonprofits that are all over the country are
funded by for example, the Open uh, the Open Society Foundation,
which of course has tied to George Soros and now
his son Alex Soros, who seems to be kind of
following in his father's footsteps with a lot of these
organizations that you know, he thinks are great, but I
(05:52):
think if we really look at it objectively, are causing
harm and sewing division all over the country.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
It's really important, Victoria that we have these journalists going
into cities like Portland and Chicago and elsewhere reporting on
what is going on, because if it was left up
to legacy media, we wouldn't hear these stories. So journalists
like Nick Sorder, who was arrested for rescuing a burning
American flag, doing a really good job because if it
(06:19):
was left up to mainstream media, these would be mostly
peaceful protests.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Right absolutely, And again I don't think that you can
have some of these cases and just leave them just
to what they are. You know, for example, I did
a story tied to the Los Angeles protests earlier this
year that there was an organization that had had they
did have a peaceful ice demonstration kind of in the
(06:48):
beginning of that week or so where there was really
the flare ups of Los Angeles. But you know, to
a lot of people, that peaceful demonstration was kind of
the catalyst for what then turned into non peaceful demonstrations,
and that organization, surprisingly actually outside of private donors, that
organization had actually gotten funding from the Department of Homeland
Security during the Biden administration, and so you know, these
(07:11):
webs of funding just have to be untangled. And you know, again,
particularly when it comes to things like government funding that
actually is all public and so that's where you know,
even if you aren't directly in these cities, you can
still have journalism that is impactful. Like I think, you know,
maybe even you guys might have had me on, but
I went on talking to a couple of different radio
(07:32):
stations the week after I put out that reporting that
you know, this this organization had actually had its grant
shut down by the Trump administration just a few months before.
But you know, I think a lot of the times,
these journalists like myself even that can do this work,
that have tied to these protests but not even directly
on the ground, you can shine a light which then
(07:55):
when you have an administration that is willing to look
at this, it actually shows them where to look and
what funding streams to cut off. If you see that
they are tied to listed activities, even if not directly,
that they should serve as a catalyst for those listed activities.
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