September 4, 2025 • 9 mins
Epstein victims name names. Attorney Brad Koffel catches us up on the latest Epstein news.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On the Legacy Retirement Group dot com phone line. Let's
say good morning to my friend, Columbus defense attorney Brad
Kaffel of course uh Koffel Law Firm and host of
for the Defense here on six to ten WTV and
Friday nights at six, Saturdays at eleven and seven, probably
sponsored by the way by Chess Round Chevy gmc Ryan
Gill and the guys in Delaware doing a great job. Couchlor,
(00:22):
Good morning, how are you, sir?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Top of the morning to you.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
It's been a minute since we've We've had conversations off
the year. We've texted, we've sent smoke signals and that
type of thing. But it's good to talk to you
on the record at night.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
That's what I'm coming home from work.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I know, I know, but it's good to talk to you.
This is not billable time, is it. I mean, you're
not going to send me a bill.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I'm flat sea baby. I don't do by the hour.
You're good to go.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
That's how you know he's legit right there.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I wanted to pick your brain Brad on the Epstein situation,
and we had a little bit of a development yesterday.
Yesterday we always say you know what, forget the list,
forget the documents. Let's talk to those who survived the
abuse from and have them name names. And that actually
is what happened yesterday outside the US Capitol building. A
(01:12):
guy named Annie Farmer, and I'll paraphrase, she basically called
out Les Wexner.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
So he was he was Epstein's buddy. He financed all
of this.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Epstein, you know, was the finance guy. He set up
funds and trust funds for Wexner's kids. He restructured Wexner's
businesses that he ran New Albany. This is Epstein ran
New Albany, including the golf club and the country club,
and Wexner he paid for everything.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
At your thoughts on that, wow, Okay, So I'm going
to answer on at a first a personal perspective, which
is a little unusual, well, and then on a professional perspective.
So I lived in this city since nineteen sixty eight,
and except for the four years I went down to
(02:09):
Miami University, I've been inside I two seventy and grown
up here. Anyone who says that Jeffrey Epstein ran New
Albany is wrong. I don't live in New Albany, but
I have a lot of friends, I have a lot
of connections out there. And Jeffrey Epstein did not run
(02:30):
New Albany, all right, So that immediately discredits a lot
of what that particular person says. Number two, Wexner made
his money through the companies that he started and his
savvy and the stock market, and you know the old
(02:53):
fashion way, I guess, the old capitalist way. When you
have that excess amount of money, it put you into
a stratosphere where you can you can get into things
that aren't readily available to the Joseph Plumber. You're on
private planes, you're going to private islands, and and next
(03:16):
thing you know, these guys are down there, like you know,
it'd be nice if we had some company, since no
one's down here with us. And they're and they're flying
in the ladies. That's the phenomenon that's been going on
for centuries, except for the private plane part. But you know,
men of wealth get together and there are there are
(03:37):
ladies and young ladies with them. Where this tends to
cross the line is the buriant interest in teenage girls.
Now professionally, this is the world that I am in,
and I with men who get caught up in these
(03:57):
uh sting operations where they're going to meet up with
what they think might be a fourteen or fifteen year old,
and it happens to be Joe the Plumber, his brother
who's a detective at the Sheriff's office, in all his pals,
and it's to catch a predator, you know, the dateline
catch a predator phenomenon. That is a big, huge epidemic problem.
(04:22):
There are scores of men who are looking to have
sexual encounters with pubertal teams, fourteen, fifteen, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen
year olds. It is not is it not beyond the
realm of possibility that grown men would be interested in
having sexual encounters with teenage girls. It's most likely a
(04:47):
scenario that that has happened with the ultra wealthy, and
when they can do that on private planes and on
private islands. And then you intersect that with of the
intelligence community. Now we find ourselves with Jeffrey Epstein and
who did he work for? Did Jeffrey Epstein just suddenly
(05:11):
make his wealth out of cent air? Yes, it appears
to be the case that no one can seem to
find how Jeffrey Epstein made his money. Did even have
any money. Was he just living on other people's money? Well,
it appears as though Les Wexner became his benefactor. What
(05:36):
what was the origin of that relationship? From what I
can tell, it does seem as though less Wesner's family
and loss Wesner have done quite a bit to distance
themselves from Epstein. There are records and transcripts and statements
(05:57):
and independent investigations that Websner discontinued a lot of contact
with Epstein over twenty five years ago.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah, it was like two thousand and nine is when
I think.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
So Epstein was arrested in nineteen Wexner had tied severed
those ties in two thousand and nine. So okay, so
Westerner's got the cash, He's got Epstein working for him,
setting up businesses and all of that, and that's what
they're alleging.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
You know, he funded all of this.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Whether he actually committed any crimes remains unknown at this point.
What about any kind of documentation? We got about a
minute and a half left, Brad, why the feet dragging
on this? Are you a release everything unredacted kind of guy, like,
obviously redact to the victims' names, but release everything.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Let the chips follow where they may.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
No matter who is on these lists, whoever is involved
with this, if there were crimes committed, they need to
pay the price.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
So in this world, when you've got evidence of sexual
crimes against miners, if I'm actively representing a man who's
suspected of sexual assault against the minor, and the evidence
I can't have in my possession, I have to go
to the prosecutor's office and view it. It's called inspection
(07:22):
only or attorney's eyes only. You can't release this information
if it has any any type of nudity or sexually
oriented material involving a minor. That's federal law of state law.
It's illegally even possess it. So that I'm not even
sure where they're going to how who's going to publish this?
Because there is no statutory exemption for the press to
(07:48):
have in their possession any material that shows a miner
in a state of nudity or in sexual engage in
any type of sexual activity.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
It's cheup, it's child Yeah, I don't think anybody wants
to see that. I think it's more about.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
You're talking, right, But then if you're going to talk,
so then you're just gonna okay, soon, let's walk it back.
Just release the reports.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Well, they released the reports and they go, well, we've
seen pictures and we've seen videos, and people are going
to say, we'll show us the evidence, show us the proof.
It doesn't really get you anywhere. I don't know why
everyone is still so fascinated on this. Of course, of
course intelligence communities are using women, young women as honey
(08:31):
pots to lure influenced peddlers and congressman or senators or
presidents or whatever to get compromise. Of course that's happening.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
It's time.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, and there's no doubt in my mind that Jeffrey
Epstein was involved in that. I just don't I just
want to know. Was he an agent proxy of facade?
Was an agent or proxy of mi I six, was
in a the agent proxy of CIA where they need
to go get to the Treasury Department and use their
financial network called Finsen financial Crime tends network. Follow the money,
forget about everything else, follow the money.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
There you go, Brad Coffle, Well said my friend attorney
in Columbus to Columbus events attorney Brad Coaffele, the Kaffel
Law firm.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Good to hear your voice. My friend will catch up
again soon
On the Legacy Retirement Group dot com phone line. Let's
say good morning to my friend, Columbus defense attorney Brad
Kaffel of course uh Koffel Law Firm and host of
for the Defense here on six to ten WTV and
Friday nights at six, Saturdays at eleven and seven, probably
sponsored by the way by Chess Round Chevy gmc Ryan
Gill and the guys in Delaware doing a great job. Couchlor,
(00:22):
Good morning, how are you, sir?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Top of the morning to you.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
It's been a minute since we've We've had conversations off
the year. We've texted, we've sent smoke signals and that
type of thing. But it's good to talk to you
on the record at night.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
That's what I'm coming home from work.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I know, I know, but it's good to talk to you.
This is not billable time, is it. I mean, you're
not going to send me a bill.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I'm flat sea baby. I don't do by the hour.
You're good to go.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
That's how you know he's legit right there.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I wanted to pick your brain Brad on the Epstein situation,
and we had a little bit of a development yesterday.
Yesterday we always say you know what, forget the list,
forget the documents. Let's talk to those who survived the
abuse from and have them name names. And that actually
is what happened yesterday outside the US Capitol building. A
(01:12):
guy named Annie Farmer, and I'll paraphrase, she basically called
out Les Wexner.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
So he was he was Epstein's buddy. He financed all
of this.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Epstein, you know, was the finance guy. He set up
funds and trust funds for Wexner's kids. He restructured Wexner's
businesses that he ran New Albany. This is Epstein ran
New Albany, including the golf club and the country club,
and Wexner he paid for everything.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
At your thoughts on that, wow, Okay, So I'm going
to answer on at a first a personal perspective, which
is a little unusual, well, and then on a professional perspective.
So I lived in this city since nineteen sixty eight,
and except for the four years I went down to
(02:09):
Miami University, I've been inside I two seventy and grown
up here. Anyone who says that Jeffrey Epstein ran New
Albany is wrong. I don't live in New Albany, but
I have a lot of friends, I have a lot
of connections out there. And Jeffrey Epstein did not run
(02:30):
New Albany, all right, So that immediately discredits a lot
of what that particular person says. Number two, Wexner made
his money through the companies that he started and his
savvy and the stock market, and you know the old
(02:53):
fashion way, I guess, the old capitalist way. When you
have that excess amount of money, it put you into
a stratosphere where you can you can get into things
that aren't readily available to the Joseph Plumber. You're on
private planes, you're going to private islands, and and next
(03:16):
thing you know, these guys are down there, like you know,
it'd be nice if we had some company, since no
one's down here with us. And they're and they're flying
in the ladies. That's the phenomenon that's been going on
for centuries, except for the private plane part. But you know,
men of wealth get together and there are there are
(03:37):
ladies and young ladies with them. Where this tends to
cross the line is the buriant interest in teenage girls.
Now professionally, this is the world that I am in,
and I with men who get caught up in these
(03:57):
uh sting operations where they're going to meet up with
what they think might be a fourteen or fifteen year old,
and it happens to be Joe the Plumber, his brother
who's a detective at the Sheriff's office, in all his pals,
and it's to catch a predator, you know, the dateline
catch a predator phenomenon. That is a big, huge epidemic problem.
(04:22):
There are scores of men who are looking to have
sexual encounters with pubertal teams, fourteen, fifteen, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen
year olds. It is not is it not beyond the
realm of possibility that grown men would be interested in
having sexual encounters with teenage girls. It's most likely a
(04:47):
scenario that that has happened with the ultra wealthy, and
when they can do that on private planes and on
private islands. And then you intersect that with of the
intelligence community. Now we find ourselves with Jeffrey Epstein and
who did he work for? Did Jeffrey Epstein just suddenly
(05:11):
make his wealth out of cent air? Yes, it appears
to be the case that no one can seem to
find how Jeffrey Epstein made his money. Did even have
any money. Was he just living on other people's money? Well,
it appears as though Les Wexner became his benefactor. What
(05:36):
what was the origin of that relationship? From what I
can tell, it does seem as though less Wesner's family
and loss Wesner have done quite a bit to distance
themselves from Epstein. There are records and transcripts and statements
(05:57):
and independent investigations that Websner discontinued a lot of contact
with Epstein over twenty five years ago.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah, it was like two thousand and nine is when
I think.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
So Epstein was arrested in nineteen Wexner had tied severed
those ties in two thousand and nine. So okay, so
Westerner's got the cash, He's got Epstein working for him,
setting up businesses and all of that, and that's what
they're alleging.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
You know, he funded all of this.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Whether he actually committed any crimes remains unknown at this point.
What about any kind of documentation? We got about a
minute and a half left, Brad, why the feet dragging
on this? Are you a release everything unredacted kind of guy, like,
obviously redact to the victims' names, but release everything.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Let the chips follow where they may.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
No matter who is on these lists, whoever is involved
with this, if there were crimes committed, they need to
pay the price.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
So in this world, when you've got evidence of sexual
crimes against miners, if I'm actively representing a man who's
suspected of sexual assault against the minor, and the evidence
I can't have in my possession, I have to go
to the prosecutor's office and view it. It's called inspection
(07:22):
only or attorney's eyes only. You can't release this information
if it has any any type of nudity or sexually
oriented material involving a minor. That's federal law of state law.
It's illegally even possess it. So that I'm not even
sure where they're going to how who's going to publish this?
Because there is no statutory exemption for the press to
(07:48):
have in their possession any material that shows a miner
in a state of nudity or in sexual engage in
any type of sexual activity.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
It's cheup, it's child Yeah, I don't think anybody wants
to see that. I think it's more about.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
You're talking, right, But then if you're going to talk,
so then you're just gonna okay, soon, let's walk it back.
Just release the reports.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Well, they released the reports and they go, well, we've
seen pictures and we've seen videos, and people are going
to say, we'll show us the evidence, show us the proof.
It doesn't really get you anywhere. I don't know why
everyone is still so fascinated on this. Of course, of
course intelligence communities are using women, young women as honey
(08:31):
pots to lure influenced peddlers and congressman or senators or
presidents or whatever to get compromise. Of course that's happening.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
It's time.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, and there's no doubt in my mind that Jeffrey
Epstein was involved in that. I just don't I just
want to know. Was he an agent proxy of facade?
Was an agent or proxy of mi I six, was
in a the agent proxy of CIA where they need
to go get to the Treasury Department and use their
financial network called Finsen financial Crime tends network. Follow the money,
forget about everything else, follow the money.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
There you go, Brad Coffle, Well said my friend attorney
in Columbus to Columbus events attorney Brad Coaffele, the Kaffel
Law firm.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Good to hear your voice. My friend will catch up
again soon
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