July 25, 2025 • 4 mins
Political Analyst Anthony Russo weighs in on this story, but admits he believes the Epstein Files case is a bigger story
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On the Legacy Retirement Group dot com phone line. Let's
welcome in political analysts and host of the Truth Will
Set You Free podcast, Anthony ruth Russo, good morning, Anthony.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
How are you doing fantastic?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Are you appreciate your time this morning? I know you're busy.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
I want to get into the allegations from Tulsi Gabbard
on the I guess Russian medaling in the twenty sixteen
presidential election.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
She is doubling down on this, isn't you yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I mean, unlike the result for getting out of the
Epstein files, this is one of the things that we
ask for as the fifty one percent of voters in
this country. This is one of the bits of transparency.
We're like, all right, let's see what we got. And Tulsi,
who has been a stalwart since day one of the
Ukraine War, where she fully staked her claim the Ukraine
(00:50):
Russian Wars fully stager claim that she is a middle
ground candidate at that point and calls them how she
sees it. This is just another example of it. And
I love that Trump put her in this position to
actually what can happen now? Big question? Are we actually going.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
To see it?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Come to fruition or is it going to be the
typical drainage pipe that is Washington, DC when something like
this comes up, unless it's against Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
That's that's my fear, Anthony, is that nothing is going
to happen. Now, are we going to see former President
Obama in handcuffs?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
It's not likely.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
But what about John Brennan or James Comey or James
Clapper or Susan Rice or one of these other folks
that were involved in this?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
And maybe well, I mean, so the Supreme Court rule
if you're talking about Obama, the Spreme Court ruling gave
sitting presidents broad immunity for official acts. But if Obama
or anyone on his team used intelligence agencies to manufacture
false evidence against political rival, it's actually not considered a
ficial act. It's a political one. So it doesn't necessarily
(01:48):
cover that. The question is are we really ever going
to see the end of this? Because it's such a
chain of global elite deep state that the question is
can they ever get to the point where we actually
see their possibility? And the question is is there The
other question is is there enough evidence of that? Or
is this a lot of lip service and political gamesmanship
(02:09):
by Tulsei Gabbert. I hope not, but since I can
tell you the documents that were released had enough black
ink and redaction on it where I have no idea
what it's saying.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Well, based on your opening statement about Tulsi, I mean
she has a ton of credibility because she is a
great middle of the road, middle of the road elected official.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
You know you mentioned deep state.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I thought we were supposed to have drained the swamp
by now, but there's still a lot of quote unquote
deep state actors in DC.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Absolutely, And here's the problem. The problem of the deep
state is is we don't know who all they are.
And I think that we're seeing some of that. I
mean the first Trump candidacy, where like He's going to
drain the swamp, and then we realized the swamp was
some of the closest people to him, and who knows,
maybe Pam Bondi is one of those. At the same time,
(02:54):
who knows, maybe Trump is one of them. Where we're
seeing as we really don't know. What I am learning
in this presidency is the economy is strong, there's a
lot of good things going on, but there is this
weird thing that both political parties have, both of the
followers of both parties, where we blind ourselves from some
of the most important stuff. And there's a lot of
(03:15):
people that are like Trump Scott playing forty chess with
the Epstein list. He's got a plan, trust us. I'm like, no,
until I actually see how it plays out. I'm just
going to go ahead and understand that our government doesn't
always have our best interests in mind. The fact that
things are going in the right direction under this presidency,
and that's a heck of a lot better than we
could say for the four years prior.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I think the short story end the Epstein thing is,
I think everybody's on this list and no one knows
what to do with it because of that fact. I mean,
who are you willing to sacrifice to get somebody else
you know out on this list?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
What do you think? And I'll let you fly.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I know you're busy, Anthony Russo, the host of the
Truth will Set You Free podcast. What's the bigger story,
the fake Russian meddling in the twenty sixteen election or
the Epstein story.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I'm gonna go to the Epstein story. I really do, because,
like you said, I think everybody is on the stag list.
I think that that is the thing that's holding it
up the most, And the question is how to decipher
it is really the biggest, biggest thing. And I bet
Trump is on the list. Again. We know we use
the plant like there's obvious things. But the question is
how can they decipher who are the the bad actors
(04:22):
from just the people that had a basic connection. So
where's that evidence? What where's the evidence from the New
York City penthouse that had all the video? Where is that?
That's my big question.
On the Legacy Retirement Group dot com phone line. Let's
welcome in political analysts and host of the Truth Will
Set You Free podcast, Anthony ruth Russo, good morning, Anthony.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
How are you doing fantastic?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Are you appreciate your time this morning? I know you're busy.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
I want to get into the allegations from Tulsi Gabbard
on the I guess Russian medaling in the twenty sixteen
presidential election.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
She is doubling down on this, isn't you yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I mean, unlike the result for getting out of the
Epstein files, this is one of the things that we
ask for as the fifty one percent of voters in
this country. This is one of the bits of transparency.
We're like, all right, let's see what we got. And Tulsi,
who has been a stalwart since day one of the
Ukraine War, where she fully staked her claim the Ukraine
(00:50):
Russian Wars fully stager claim that she is a middle
ground candidate at that point and calls them how she
sees it. This is just another example of it. And
I love that Trump put her in this position to
actually what can happen now? Big question? Are we actually going.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
To see it?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Come to fruition or is it going to be the
typical drainage pipe that is Washington, DC when something like
this comes up, unless it's against Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
That's that's my fear, Anthony, is that nothing is going
to happen. Now, are we going to see former President
Obama in handcuffs?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
It's not likely.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
But what about John Brennan or James Comey or James
Clapper or Susan Rice or one of these other folks
that were involved in this?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
And maybe well, I mean, so the Supreme Court rule
if you're talking about Obama, the Spreme Court ruling gave
sitting presidents broad immunity for official acts. But if Obama
or anyone on his team used intelligence agencies to manufacture
false evidence against political rival, it's actually not considered a
ficial act. It's a political one. So it doesn't necessarily
(01:48):
cover that. The question is are we really ever going
to see the end of this? Because it's such a
chain of global elite deep state that the question is
can they ever get to the point where we actually
see their possibility? And the question is is there The
other question is is there enough evidence of that? Or
is this a lot of lip service and political gamesmanship
(02:09):
by Tulsei Gabbert. I hope not, but since I can
tell you the documents that were released had enough black
ink and redaction on it where I have no idea
what it's saying.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Well, based on your opening statement about Tulsi, I mean
she has a ton of credibility because she is a
great middle of the road, middle of the road elected official.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
You know you mentioned deep state.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I thought we were supposed to have drained the swamp
by now, but there's still a lot of quote unquote
deep state actors in DC.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Absolutely, And here's the problem. The problem of the deep
state is is we don't know who all they are.
And I think that we're seeing some of that. I
mean the first Trump candidacy, where like He's going to
drain the swamp, and then we realized the swamp was
some of the closest people to him, and who knows,
maybe Pam Bondi is one of those. At the same time,
(02:54):
who knows, maybe Trump is one of them. Where we're
seeing as we really don't know. What I am learning
in this presidency is the economy is strong, there's a
lot of good things going on, but there is this
weird thing that both political parties have, both of the
followers of both parties, where we blind ourselves from some
of the most important stuff. And there's a lot of
(03:15):
people that are like Trump Scott playing forty chess with
the Epstein list. He's got a plan, trust us. I'm like, no,
until I actually see how it plays out. I'm just
going to go ahead and understand that our government doesn't
always have our best interests in mind. The fact that
things are going in the right direction under this presidency,
and that's a heck of a lot better than we
could say for the four years prior.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I think the short story end the Epstein thing is,
I think everybody's on this list and no one knows
what to do with it because of that fact. I mean,
who are you willing to sacrifice to get somebody else
you know out on this list?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
What do you think? And I'll let you fly.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I know you're busy, Anthony Russo, the host of the
Truth will Set You Free podcast. What's the bigger story,
the fake Russian meddling in the twenty sixteen election or
the Epstein story.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I'm gonna go to the Epstein story. I really do, because,
like you said, I think everybody is on the stag list.
I think that that is the thing that's holding it
up the most, And the question is how to decipher
it is really the biggest, biggest thing. And I bet
Trump is on the list. Again. We know we use
the plant like there's obvious things. But the question is
how can they decipher who are the the bad actors
(04:22):
from just the people that had a basic connection. So
where's that evidence? What where's the evidence from the New
York City penthouse that had all the video? Where is that?
That's my big question.
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