November 21, 2025 • 8 mins
Attorney Jeremy Rosenthal has the weekly legal segment including Democrats telling the military they can refuse illegal orders and Carmel California has a problem with...Pickleball?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, over to the Legacy Retirement Group dot com
(00:02):
phone line. Our buddy in Dallas, Texas defensefirm dot com,
Jeremy Rosenthal. Dude, Red Raiders are top five football team
right now.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Yeah, I guess I'm not eliminating an Alamobile championship for
squad by the way, or or or an Alamobile runner up.
You know, either either could happen. Look, we've got one game.
We still have not qualified for your Big twelve title game,
and every Red Raider is googling like, how can we
(00:34):
get screwed? So that's that's what you're dealing with.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yeah, where's the positivity?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Man? You gotta like, you gotta believe it. You got
to sort of speak it into existence. You know that
the power of positive thinking?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
You got this.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, that's a trick.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Okay, that's it man, that's it.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
All right.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yeah, And you guys are off this week, right, we're.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Off this week. But tonight, tonight you're number fifteen. Red
Raiders men's basketball takes on number one per Due. Ooh
so yes, so tuned in for that. You know we're
gonna see. Just we've already got a loss to a
Big ten team. I think we lost to Illinois. But look,
we got our billionaire West Texas guy, you know, spending
the cash. So how's those Ohio State's women's softball because
(01:19):
we bought like a gray team there. I don't know
that I'll watch it, but we but apparently we did.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Yeah, well we'll research that. I'll get back to you.
Not in the thousand percent. Sure, off the top of
my head, Jeremy Rosenthal, Texas Defense Firm dot com. Let's
get down to a couple of points of business. You know,
the big story this week, rightfully or wrongfully, Jeremy's been
the Epstein files.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I think this is going to be a big nothing
burger at the end of the day. But what happens
next in your mind?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I think this is the super Bowl of conspiracy theories.
I think it's Christmas Morning for people who like to
get seventy nine thousand page documents and hit control f
and see if your neighbor's on there, or you're the
boss that you hate or whatever. Look, there's gonna be
a lot of data dumped on the public that's been
(02:09):
in a government's possession for a long long time, which
you would hope you would hope that if there's somebody
who could be brought to justice that's already happened. So
I think you're going to get a lot of I
think you're going to get a lot of red hairing.
And look, a good chunk of this country has Epstein
(02:30):
file fatigue, and a good chunk of this country just
just can't have enough pro wrestling drama like this, you know.
So I think that. And look, you know there's also
there's also victims and survivors here that this is a
big deal to. So you're going to have I think
(02:51):
all of the above. But I don't know that you're
going to have anything that's going to be such a
smoking gun that it's going to be like, Okay, well
let's go get this person and there's enough evidence to process.
Then I don't know that you'll have that.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I think you're exactly right.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I think it's gonna be more maybe some embarrassing information
and people that have to, you know, resign or maybe
step away from a high power position for a while.
But as far as you know, we need to burn
down the whole system because of this, I don't think
it's gonna happen. I think we know what we know
and that's pretty much going to be it. And you're
absolutely right when you talk about Epstein file fatigue.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
I'm tired of talking about it.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I'd rather talk about things that actually matter, not to
you know, diminish the victims in this situation.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
But it's tragic of what happened to these young ladies.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
But you know, we need to at some point, you know,
to try to heal and move on from this. And
I'm kind of glad that it's hopefully coming to an end,
or maybe it's just beginning. I don't know, Yeah, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah, Yeah, there's gonna be a lot of salaciousness in here.
And and yeah, I think if you're somebody who was
in that orbit of Jeffrey Epstein and whoever was in
his universe, I think you're you're looking at this dump
through your fingers, uh, and just praying that your you
(04:07):
know that your name isn't in there somehow. So yeah,
it's going to ruin some people's days too, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
No doubt.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Jeremy, what do you make of this this video that
these six Democrat senators put out addressing the US military,
saying that they should resist orders from military leadership if
they feel that those orders are illegal.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
You know.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Of course, then Trump weighed in and that that sort
of sucked the oxygen out of the room. People in
mainstream media focusing on what Trump's reaction was. I mean,
he's suggesting that they be you know, arrested and charged
and sentenced to death because of the seditious behavior. But
the focus would be on when you have you know,
senior level politicians, lawmakers in this country addressing the US
(04:49):
military saying you don't have to follow the rules if
you don't want to.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I this sounds kind of like you're familiar with kabookie theater.
Sure right, I'm married. Ay, my wife went to the
University of Texas. Thank god she doesn't follow football, that
would be insufferable, but she she is a liberal arts
theater major. And and so I I learned about the
bookie theater, which is, you know, sort of a lot
(05:15):
of over it's pretending to be angrier than you are.
I think there's a lot of that going on here
on both sides. So so the message says, you, if
you're a military leader or military anything, you have to
refuse illegal orders. And that's not wrong. It's you know,
who gets to determine whether an order is illegal. Well,
(05:38):
when when you're a soldier, this is a really hard
ethical question. When you're in the military, you have on
one end.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Right, do I get to decide whether or not when
when I get the order.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
To to to launch the nuke uh over the over
the seas? Do I get to make that choice that
it's illegal or not illegal? Or when you're when we're
at the Nuremberg trials, Right, I was just following orders.
Wasn't a defense.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
And so I think ultimately, when all is said and done,
a lot more said than done. I don't I don't
think they're going to put Mark Kelly to death over this.
So so Yeah, but I think it's some kobuki things.
But it's an interesting it is an interesting topic to
chew on.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Yeah, no doubt and no doubt. And again, there's two
sides of this.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
There's what Trump said and then there's what the Democrats
was contained in their video. And you know, I think
we need to focus on both equally and not just
focus on the the Trump reaction, which tends to be
if you paid attention at all for the last ten years,
he can be a little over a little over the top,
as you point out, a little a little over dramatic there, sou.
And then a story I know you've been following very
(06:51):
very closely. The city of Carmel, California, just banned pickleball
within city limits. The city council vote this month to
kick the sport out of its city limits because they
were apparently NonStop noise complaints.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Jeremy, I don't know if you've played any amount.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Of pickleball, but it is like it is like table tennis,
ping pong on steroids. There is a an associated noise
with playing pickleball.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Right, and there's a lot of facial expressions that are
really annoying too, that you know the players are doing.
And and yes, no, very very justified in my opinion.
In fact, after this, I'm gonna get on the internet
and we're going to google real estate and Carmel. I
think Eastwood was the mayor there.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
I think he was.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah, yeah, so boy, Yeah, you don't want to you
don't want to cross those people there. They'll they'll they'll,
you know, go ahead and make my day.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah, yeah, you had to. Don't mess with the folks
at Carmel. They'll come after you, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
No doubt. Hey, have you.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Gotten your your class action check yet for your squeaky
on cloud shoes?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Oh no, but then again, you know I haven't checked.
I avoid the mail because bills come and nothing says
I love you quite like certified mail. So I avoid
those things, you know. Yeah, I don't answer phone calls
that I don't know where they're coming from, or I'll
make up a name.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Well, you're a you're an attorney, dude.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
You probably you send more bills than you get, right
that how it works?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Well, yeah, the right the to colective money first. But yes, yes,
I'm still looking for my on cloud settlement because yes,
and and and yeah, and and there's probably an exus
there to the pickleball, if you really think about it,
All right, over to the Legacy Retirement Group dot com
(00:02):
phone line. Our buddy in Dallas, Texas defensefirm dot com,
Jeremy Rosenthal. Dude, Red Raiders are top five football team
right now.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Yeah, I guess I'm not eliminating an Alamobile championship for
squad by the way, or or or an Alamobile runner up.
You know, either either could happen. Look, we've got one game.
We still have not qualified for your Big twelve title game,
and every Red Raider is googling like, how can we
(00:34):
get screwed? So that's that's what you're dealing with.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yeah, where's the positivity?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Man? You gotta like, you gotta believe it. You got
to sort of speak it into existence. You know that
the power of positive thinking?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
You got this.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, that's a trick.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Okay, that's it man, that's it.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
All right.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yeah, And you guys are off this week, right, we're.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Off this week. But tonight, tonight you're number fifteen. Red
Raiders men's basketball takes on number one per Due. Ooh
so yes, so tuned in for that. You know we're
gonna see. Just we've already got a loss to a
Big ten team. I think we lost to Illinois. But look,
we got our billionaire West Texas guy, you know, spending
the cash. So how's those Ohio State's women's softball because
(01:19):
we bought like a gray team there. I don't know
that I'll watch it, but we but apparently we did.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Yeah, well we'll research that. I'll get back to you.
Not in the thousand percent. Sure, off the top of
my head, Jeremy Rosenthal, Texas Defense Firm dot com. Let's
get down to a couple of points of business. You know,
the big story this week, rightfully or wrongfully, Jeremy's been
the Epstein files.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I think this is going to be a big nothing
burger at the end of the day. But what happens
next in your mind?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I think this is the super Bowl of conspiracy theories.
I think it's Christmas Morning for people who like to
get seventy nine thousand page documents and hit control f
and see if your neighbor's on there, or you're the
boss that you hate or whatever. Look, there's gonna be
a lot of data dumped on the public that's been
(02:09):
in a government's possession for a long long time, which
you would hope you would hope that if there's somebody
who could be brought to justice that's already happened. So
I think you're going to get a lot of I
think you're going to get a lot of red hairing.
And look, a good chunk of this country has Epstein
(02:30):
file fatigue, and a good chunk of this country just
just can't have enough pro wrestling drama like this, you know.
So I think that. And look, you know there's also
there's also victims and survivors here that this is a
big deal to. So you're going to have I think
(02:51):
all of the above. But I don't know that you're
going to have anything that's going to be such a
smoking gun that it's going to be like, Okay, well
let's go get this person and there's enough evidence to process.
Then I don't know that you'll have that.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I think you're exactly right.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I think it's gonna be more maybe some embarrassing information
and people that have to, you know, resign or maybe
step away from a high power position for a while.
But as far as you know, we need to burn
down the whole system because of this, I don't think
it's gonna happen. I think we know what we know
and that's pretty much going to be it. And you're
absolutely right when you talk about Epstein file fatigue.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
I'm tired of talking about it.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I'd rather talk about things that actually matter, not to
you know, diminish the victims in this situation.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
But it's tragic of what happened to these young ladies.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
But you know, we need to at some point, you know,
to try to heal and move on from this. And
I'm kind of glad that it's hopefully coming to an end,
or maybe it's just beginning. I don't know, Yeah, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah, Yeah, there's gonna be a lot of salaciousness in here.
And and yeah, I think if you're somebody who was
in that orbit of Jeffrey Epstein and whoever was in
his universe, I think you're you're looking at this dump
through your fingers, uh, and just praying that your you
(04:07):
know that your name isn't in there somehow. So yeah,
it's going to ruin some people's days too, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
No doubt.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Jeremy, what do you make of this this video that
these six Democrat senators put out addressing the US military,
saying that they should resist orders from military leadership if
they feel that those orders are illegal.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
You know.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Of course, then Trump weighed in and that that sort
of sucked the oxygen out of the room. People in
mainstream media focusing on what Trump's reaction was. I mean,
he's suggesting that they be you know, arrested and charged
and sentenced to death because of the seditious behavior. But
the focus would be on when you have you know,
senior level politicians, lawmakers in this country addressing the US
(04:49):
military saying you don't have to follow the rules if
you don't want to.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I this sounds kind of like you're familiar with kabookie theater.
Sure right, I'm married. Ay, my wife went to the
University of Texas. Thank god she doesn't follow football, that
would be insufferable, but she she is a liberal arts
theater major. And and so I I learned about the
bookie theater, which is, you know, sort of a lot
(05:15):
of over it's pretending to be angrier than you are.
I think there's a lot of that going on here
on both sides. So so the message says, you, if
you're a military leader or military anything, you have to
refuse illegal orders. And that's not wrong. It's you know,
who gets to determine whether an order is illegal. Well,
(05:38):
when when you're a soldier, this is a really hard
ethical question. When you're in the military, you have on
one end.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Right, do I get to decide whether or not when
when I get the order.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
To to to launch the nuke uh over the over
the seas? Do I get to make that choice that
it's illegal or not illegal? Or when you're when we're
at the Nuremberg trials, Right, I was just following orders.
Wasn't a defense.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
And so I think ultimately, when all is said and done,
a lot more said than done. I don't I don't
think they're going to put Mark Kelly to death over this.
So so Yeah, but I think it's some kobuki things.
But it's an interesting it is an interesting topic to
chew on.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Yeah, no doubt and no doubt. And again, there's two
sides of this.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
There's what Trump said and then there's what the Democrats
was contained in their video. And you know, I think
we need to focus on both equally and not just
focus on the the Trump reaction, which tends to be
if you paid attention at all for the last ten years,
he can be a little over a little over the top,
as you point out, a little a little over dramatic there, sou.
And then a story I know you've been following very
(06:51):
very closely. The city of Carmel, California, just banned pickleball
within city limits. The city council vote this month to
kick the sport out of its city limits because they
were apparently NonStop noise complaints.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Jeremy, I don't know if you've played any amount.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Of pickleball, but it is like it is like table tennis,
ping pong on steroids. There is a an associated noise
with playing pickleball.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Right, and there's a lot of facial expressions that are
really annoying too, that you know the players are doing.
And and yes, no, very very justified in my opinion.
In fact, after this, I'm gonna get on the internet
and we're going to google real estate and Carmel. I
think Eastwood was the mayor there.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
I think he was.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah, yeah, so boy, Yeah, you don't want to you
don't want to cross those people there. They'll they'll they'll,
you know, go ahead and make my day.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah, yeah, you had to. Don't mess with the folks
at Carmel. They'll come after you, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
No doubt. Hey, have you.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Gotten your your class action check yet for your squeaky
on cloud shoes?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Oh no, but then again, you know I haven't checked.
I avoid the mail because bills come and nothing says
I love you quite like certified mail. So I avoid
those things, you know. Yeah, I don't answer phone calls
that I don't know where they're coming from, or I'll
make up a name.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Well, you're a you're an attorney, dude.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
You probably you send more bills than you get, right
that how it works?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Well, yeah, the right the to colective money first. But yes, yes,
I'm still looking for my on cloud settlement because yes,
and and and yeah, and and there's probably an exus
there to the pickleball, if you really think about it,
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