October 15, 2025 • 10 mins
Attorney Jeremy Rosenthal looks at the latest legal cases making headlines including Alex Jones's case denied by SCOTUS
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right over to the Legacy Retirement Group dot com
(00:02):
phone line. Our good friend, our buddy, our pal from Dallas, Texas.
He runs Texas Defense Firm dot com. It's Jeremy Rosenthal.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
What's going on, dude, man, I'm just doing my thing,
you know, working on my jump shot, moving without the ball,
everything that it takes.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
You know, you spend more time without the ball than
you do with it. So yeah, you definitely have to
learn to move without the ball. There's no doubt.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
What's going on. I mean, you're a Texas Tech Red
Raiders guy.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
What is going on with the the what's the tortilla
throwing tradition there?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
That's you know, okay, so you we we throw tortillas
at kickoff. The reason that we throw tortillas at kickoff
is because nothing else flies quite as well. And uh
and and and you also have to understand that when
you were a Red Raider, you have a built in
imperiority complex, and you don't really like authority, and you
(00:55):
don't even and you you drink so much that that
even when your team is getting penalized, you still throw them.
So you throw them at kickoff. And I think the
Big twelve made it a penalty. If you they'll let
you do it once, right, you get like it's kind
of bad, Like you get like three warnings or something
like that. And we're the only school in the Big
twelve that like throws craft, you know, so, so that
(01:17):
rule was targeted at us. You think so so, and
you get two warnings and you throw the tortillas, and
and then and then this this year, your twenty twenty
five Red Raiders are scoring three touchdowns before the seven
minute mark of the first quarter, and so they're still
throwing them and they're still hucking them, and uh yeah,
that's that's what's happening.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
It seems like a waste of a perfectly good tortilla
to me, because I do love a taco or a
burrito from time to time. But hey, traditions are traditions.
I just I became aware of that.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
You've got to cut a hole in the middle of it,
and that will that will increase your that increases your velocity.
You're not that anybody at texts actually like study is that.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
But yeah, I would fold it over and take a
bite out of the middle in order to make the hole.
So at least you're getting some nutrition out of the
tortilla before you threw it out of the field.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Jeremy, Jeremy, Jeremy Rosenthal.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
By the way, there are a bunch of stories suggesting
that Texas Tech and Ohio State could meet up in
the College Football Playoff. If the playoff was today, the
way that the rankings are and the way that the
bye weeks would fall, you could see a Red Raiders
Buckeyes matchup.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Just saying something to think about for the future.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
You know what our destiny is to get killed by
somebody like Indiana who would never get there anyway. I
saw today that the Ohio State is on my ESPN
app It has you guys in second place in the
Big Ten Indiana. How does that feel the I mean,
those guys really didn't you guys? You guys beat them
(02:52):
up pretty good last year as a pall.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
I think that's correct.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
And we don't play this year, at least in the
regular season, but we are on a collision course with
Indiana for the Big Ten title game in December, so
we shall see. So talk about this. There was this
there's a scam that's going on. It's they refer to
it as a pig butchering. There is no actual there's
(03:16):
no actual pigs being harmed. But is this a situation
where you get a random text message from a from
a wrong number and then they try to strike up
a conversation with you and then ultimately get you to
give them money.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah, this is a bad, bad deal. And the Department
of Justice recently, just this week has the biggest forfeiture
action in their history. They see fifteen billion dollars in
bitcoin from these folks in Cambodia. And this is a scary,
scary deal on a lot of levels. So stay with
(03:51):
me and let me kind of break this down. Okay,
So what happens. Yes, a lot of times you get
a text from somebody, Hey, you know I do I
know you? Your phone numbers in my phone and do
we know each other? And they're kind of hoping that
you're in your seventies and your eighties, they're kind of
hoping that you're elderly. That's just sort of all for
that thing, and then they strike up a conversation. There
(04:14):
can be a very long grooming period, or or sometimes
they go on dating apps and they're they're convincing the
person on the other end that there's a love interest here.
Maybe you're dealing with a widow or or some or
somebody like that, and they get you to invest in
their bitcoin thing. They make a fake app which you
(04:35):
track your profits, right, which are not profits. You're just
giving them money, but they're they're they're showing you a
fake return, and you keep you keep feeding it, right,
you keep feeding a kiddy, and all your money is gone.
And it's called pig butchering because they fatten you up
with a lot of the grooming stuff and then they
(04:56):
and then they make you think that you're making a
lot of money, and then they just cut you. They
just they just they just gorge you like that brutal
and what's really the nasty, nasty part of that. If
that's not bad enough. These folks in Southeast Asia, the
one that they got was in Cambodia. They have they
are they're putting out ads for people to come and work,
(05:19):
and they're enslaving them when they when they get there.
And there are literally farms of people, humans that are
working that are forced to be these textures, that are
forced to continue and perpetuate this scam. So this is
an extremely big deal. This was an extremely big forfeiture
(05:39):
for our government.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
The bottom line, Jeremy Rosenthal, Texas defense firm dot com
is be wary of any unsolicited anything, whether it's a
text message or an email.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I mean, I am so skeptical now.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
I mean, my dear old mother who's damn near eighty
years old, could send me a text and I'd be
is that really my mom?
Speaker 3 (05:59):
I'm And who is that?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
It's You've got to be super skeptical and certainly never
give any your account information or banking routing numbers or
anything like that over the phone.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
It just it is incredibly scary.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
I tell my teenage boys all the time, there's a
thousand and one ways you can get in trouble on
your phone, and that is just one of them. So
just be aware of that if you get if you
get a wrong number, it just don't don't reply. There's
no good that's going to come. There's no good that's
going to come for that right.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
And and another thing I'll tell you too is don't
be afraid to be invasive with your parents or with
your grandparents. And a lot of times they're ashamed of
having fallen for a scam, and they might not advertise it. Sure,
My dad's a where werd And about five or six
years ago he was two thirds of the way for
(06:49):
falling for one of these things. And and and you know,
and he's he's happy that somebody is paying attention to him,
and and you know, he had just lost his wife
and he's he's texting somebody, and so there's a little
bit of excitement for the first time. And you know,
he's not talking about it, and so you got to
be like, hey, Dad, what's up with this? This sounds
(07:10):
Let me see this lady's picture. I mean, she was dynamite,
And I'm like, well, you are a Rosenthal, and it
is natural for women to just go head over heels
for you.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
But but I don't like the fact that she's in
China now and trapped in me a whole bunch of
iTunes gift cards. That's a deal breaker for me. So anyway,
you've got to be invasive with your loved ones, and
you can't be afraid to have difficult conversations.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
It's a great point, Jeremy Rosenthal, our Dallas attorney. Before
I let you fly, what's going on with the Supreme Court?
See they decline to hear the appeal from Alex Jones.
I mean, it was the one point four billion dollar
defamation penalty over the Sandy Hook judgment, and Scotas said, no,
I'm not going to hear.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
This one, right, And the Supreme Court is what's called
a court of discretionary review. What that means is they
don't have to take your case, and it's very rare
that they will take your case. They only take your
case if it's what's called a case of first impression,
meaning you have made legal history and what's happening to
you has never happened before. Interesting sometimes if two states
(08:17):
aresuing each other. But we have thirteen district courts. We
have thirteen courts across the country that are sort of
intermediate when they disagree on cases. When you have a
circuit split seven to six or five to whatever, what's eight. Yeah,
this is my tech education kind of biting me. When
you have a circuit court split, that's when the Supreme
(08:38):
Court will resolve it to harmonize the law across the land.
Alex Jones case just wasn't legally interesting them. That's the
sad part of it for him. I mean, he thinks
that there's politics involved, and that everybody's out to get in.
But the fact is is that the Supreme Court just
can't take.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Everybody's case, which is that's interesting in and of itself
that the Supreme Court goes this just isn't interesting to us.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Next we'll move on.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
That's right. Yea, yes, that's right. And you're talking death
penalty cases. You're talking about people in prison forever, you're
talking about DNA, you're talking about people who bought a
crappy car. Yeah, so you hear a lot of banter.
I'm going to take you all the way the Supreme Court,
and as a lawyer, you kind of chuckle about it.
And the issue with Alex Jones case, you know, twenty seconds,
(09:24):
I'll tell you why his case was different or unique
or why he was arguing it. He was a very
combative litigant, and the court sanctioned him repeatedly because he
just wasn't playing nice. He wasn't showing up the things,
he wasn't turning over documents. So the court defaulted him
and a one point four billion dollar verdict functionally came
(09:46):
from him not really participating in the court case. And
so he's saying, well, that violates my due process rights.
But again all thirteen circuit courts have the same view
on it. So the pre Supreme Court says, look, there's
nothing for us to come and solve here. Oh to
that and kind of what happened
All right over to the Legacy Retirement Group dot com
(00:02):
phone line. Our good friend, our buddy, our pal from Dallas, Texas.
He runs Texas Defense Firm dot com. It's Jeremy Rosenthal.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
What's going on, dude, man, I'm just doing my thing,
you know, working on my jump shot, moving without the ball,
everything that it takes.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
You know, you spend more time without the ball than
you do with it. So yeah, you definitely have to
learn to move without the ball. There's no doubt.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
What's going on. I mean, you're a Texas Tech Red
Raiders guy.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
What is going on with the the what's the tortilla
throwing tradition there?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
That's you know, okay, so you we we throw tortillas
at kickoff. The reason that we throw tortillas at kickoff
is because nothing else flies quite as well. And uh
and and and you also have to understand that when
you were a Red Raider, you have a built in
imperiority complex, and you don't really like authority, and you
(00:55):
don't even and you you drink so much that that
even when your team is getting penalized, you still throw them.
So you throw them at kickoff. And I think the
Big twelve made it a penalty. If you they'll let
you do it once, right, you get like it's kind
of bad, Like you get like three warnings or something
like that. And we're the only school in the Big
twelve that like throws craft, you know, so, so that
(01:17):
rule was targeted at us. You think so so, and
you get two warnings and you throw the tortillas, and
and then and then this this year, your twenty twenty
five Red Raiders are scoring three touchdowns before the seven
minute mark of the first quarter, and so they're still
throwing them and they're still hucking them, and uh yeah,
that's that's what's happening.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
It seems like a waste of a perfectly good tortilla
to me, because I do love a taco or a
burrito from time to time. But hey, traditions are traditions.
I just I became aware of that.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
You've got to cut a hole in the middle of it,
and that will that will increase your that increases your velocity.
You're not that anybody at texts actually like study is that.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
But yeah, I would fold it over and take a
bite out of the middle in order to make the hole.
So at least you're getting some nutrition out of the
tortilla before you threw it out of the field.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Jeremy, Jeremy, Jeremy Rosenthal.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
By the way, there are a bunch of stories suggesting
that Texas Tech and Ohio State could meet up in
the College Football Playoff. If the playoff was today, the
way that the rankings are and the way that the
bye weeks would fall, you could see a Red Raiders
Buckeyes matchup.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Just saying something to think about for the future.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
You know what our destiny is to get killed by
somebody like Indiana who would never get there anyway. I
saw today that the Ohio State is on my ESPN
app It has you guys in second place in the
Big Ten Indiana. How does that feel the I mean,
those guys really didn't you guys? You guys beat them
(02:52):
up pretty good last year as a pall.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
I think that's correct.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
And we don't play this year, at least in the
regular season, but we are on a collision course with
Indiana for the Big Ten title game in December, so
we shall see. So talk about this. There was this
there's a scam that's going on. It's they refer to
it as a pig butchering. There is no actual there's
(03:16):
no actual pigs being harmed. But is this a situation
where you get a random text message from a from
a wrong number and then they try to strike up
a conversation with you and then ultimately get you to
give them money.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah, this is a bad, bad deal. And the Department
of Justice recently, just this week has the biggest forfeiture
action in their history. They see fifteen billion dollars in
bitcoin from these folks in Cambodia. And this is a scary,
scary deal on a lot of levels. So stay with
(03:51):
me and let me kind of break this down. Okay,
So what happens. Yes, a lot of times you get
a text from somebody, Hey, you know I do I
know you? Your phone numbers in my phone and do
we know each other? And they're kind of hoping that
you're in your seventies and your eighties, they're kind of
hoping that you're elderly. That's just sort of all for
that thing, and then they strike up a conversation. There
(04:14):
can be a very long grooming period, or or sometimes
they go on dating apps and they're they're convincing the
person on the other end that there's a love interest here.
Maybe you're dealing with a widow or or some or
somebody like that, and they get you to invest in
their bitcoin thing. They make a fake app which you
(04:35):
track your profits, right, which are not profits. You're just
giving them money, but they're they're they're showing you a
fake return, and you keep you keep feeding it, right,
you keep feeding a kiddy, and all your money is gone.
And it's called pig butchering because they fatten you up
with a lot of the grooming stuff and then they
(04:56):
and then they make you think that you're making a
lot of money, and then they just cut you. They
just they just they just gorge you like that brutal
and what's really the nasty, nasty part of that. If
that's not bad enough. These folks in Southeast Asia, the
one that they got was in Cambodia. They have they
are they're putting out ads for people to come and work,
(05:19):
and they're enslaving them when they when they get there.
And there are literally farms of people, humans that are
working that are forced to be these textures, that are
forced to continue and perpetuate this scam. So this is
an extremely big deal. This was an extremely big forfeiture
(05:39):
for our government.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
The bottom line, Jeremy Rosenthal, Texas defense firm dot com
is be wary of any unsolicited anything, whether it's a
text message or an email.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I mean, I am so skeptical now.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
I mean, my dear old mother who's damn near eighty
years old, could send me a text and I'd be
is that really my mom?
Speaker 3 (05:59):
I'm And who is that?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
It's You've got to be super skeptical and certainly never
give any your account information or banking routing numbers or
anything like that over the phone.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
It just it is incredibly scary.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
I tell my teenage boys all the time, there's a
thousand and one ways you can get in trouble on
your phone, and that is just one of them. So
just be aware of that if you get if you
get a wrong number, it just don't don't reply. There's
no good that's going to come. There's no good that's
going to come for that right.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
And and another thing I'll tell you too is don't
be afraid to be invasive with your parents or with
your grandparents. And a lot of times they're ashamed of
having fallen for a scam, and they might not advertise it. Sure,
My dad's a where werd And about five or six
years ago he was two thirds of the way for
(06:49):
falling for one of these things. And and and you know,
and he's he's happy that somebody is paying attention to him,
and and you know, he had just lost his wife
and he's he's texting somebody, and so there's a little
bit of excitement for the first time. And you know,
he's not talking about it, and so you got to
be like, hey, Dad, what's up with this? This sounds
(07:10):
Let me see this lady's picture. I mean, she was dynamite,
And I'm like, well, you are a Rosenthal, and it
is natural for women to just go head over heels
for you.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
But but I don't like the fact that she's in
China now and trapped in me a whole bunch of
iTunes gift cards. That's a deal breaker for me. So anyway,
you've got to be invasive with your loved ones, and
you can't be afraid to have difficult conversations.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
It's a great point, Jeremy Rosenthal, our Dallas attorney. Before
I let you fly, what's going on with the Supreme Court?
See they decline to hear the appeal from Alex Jones.
I mean, it was the one point four billion dollar
defamation penalty over the Sandy Hook judgment, and Scotas said, no,
I'm not going to hear.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
This one, right, And the Supreme Court is what's called
a court of discretionary review. What that means is they
don't have to take your case, and it's very rare
that they will take your case. They only take your
case if it's what's called a case of first impression,
meaning you have made legal history and what's happening to
you has never happened before. Interesting sometimes if two states
(08:17):
aresuing each other. But we have thirteen district courts. We
have thirteen courts across the country that are sort of
intermediate when they disagree on cases. When you have a
circuit split seven to six or five to whatever, what's eight. Yeah,
this is my tech education kind of biting me. When
you have a circuit court split, that's when the Supreme
(08:38):
Court will resolve it to harmonize the law across the land.
Alex Jones case just wasn't legally interesting them. That's the
sad part of it for him. I mean, he thinks
that there's politics involved, and that everybody's out to get in.
But the fact is is that the Supreme Court just
can't take.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Everybody's case, which is that's interesting in and of itself
that the Supreme Court goes this just isn't interesting to us.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Next we'll move on.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
That's right. Yea, yes, that's right. And you're talking death
penalty cases. You're talking about people in prison forever, you're
talking about DNA, you're talking about people who bought a
crappy car. Yeah, so you hear a lot of banter.
I'm going to take you all the way the Supreme Court,
and as a lawyer, you kind of chuckle about it.
And the issue with Alex Jones case, you know, twenty seconds,
(09:24):
I'll tell you why his case was different or unique
or why he was arguing it. He was a very
combative litigant, and the court sanctioned him repeatedly because he
just wasn't playing nice. He wasn't showing up the things,
he wasn't turning over documents. So the court defaulted him
and a one point four billion dollar verdict functionally came
(09:46):
from him not really participating in the court case. And
so he's saying, well, that violates my due process rights.
But again all thirteen circuit courts have the same view
on it. So the pre Supreme Court says, look, there's
nothing for us to come and solve here. Oh to
that and kind of what happened
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