July 2, 2025 • 7 mins
Attorney Jeremy Rosenthal says this man will spend the rest of his life in jail for the death of his son. There have been 13 child deaths this year from leaving them in hot cars
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Over on the Legacy Retirement Group dot Com f line
phone line.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
You know, we talk about big Bucks.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
We got to talk about Jeremy Rosenthal, our Dallas defense attorney,
Texas Defense Firm dot com rolling in the dough in Dallas.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Jeremy, how are you this morning?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Every day is Jeremy Rosenthal day in my world? Yeah,
I'll tell you quickly. So the Bobby Bones story, I
love it. I love it. And I have a fourteen
year old daughter who will not listen to anything I say, okay,
and you struggle for conversation. And I'm having lunch with
her yesterday and I'm like, check this out. What would
(00:37):
you think if I give you one point one to
nine million dollars on July first, for every day for
the rest of your life? And so she actually got
interested in the Bobby Bonia story. Never heard she never
heard of the pirates, right, they never heard of the Mets.
But I'm telling you that is how colossally awful that
deal was. So I love Bobby Bonia. I have a
(01:00):
hot dog for him.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
It's so funny. Yeah, yeah, hot dog.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
No ketchup by the way, right, I mean there's no
such either's no you got to just go mustard on
a hot dog.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Right, Uh, yeah, I like it. I like some money.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Okay, that's fine. I just wanted to clarify. I just
wanted to make sure you're on my team on that. No,
no ketchup on a dog.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
You know the reason we wanted to talk to you.
It's not a not a fun story to discuss, Jeremy.
It's as of today, I believe we have thirteen deaths
from kids left in hot cars in this country, and
five of them have happened in the last ten days,
including one just up the road here in Mansfield, Ohio.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Five year old boy was left inside a hot vehicle.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
We've had a stretch really hot weather here in the
last couple of days, and I just don't understand, Jeremy,
how this happens. How people either they decide to leave
their kids in the car because they're going to go
in and pop in and get a beer, or get
a haircut or do something else, or they forget that
they have their kid in the car.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I don't know which is words. It's tragic either way.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
But you're focused on this story out of Florida where
a dad did just that. He went and got his haircut,
he got a beer, he left his eighteen month old
kid in the car at ninety two degrees outside.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
It's so sad.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Yeah, yeah, and you're being nice to the guy. He
got more than one beer, he spent about three hours
in the bar. And his defense and what's really tragic
here in this case, this one's an outlier. Let's be clear.
This happens, and it's terrible, and every time we talk
about it, it's a public service announcement, and hopefully everybody
listening right now makes that mental note that they need
(02:43):
to make to where they don't sort of fall in
this trap. This guy is completely different. This guy's defense
was I thought the fan and cracking the window was
going to help, so he knew the child was in
the car. He goes and gets a haircut, He goes
and goes to it's called hanky pankies. I mean, you
can't make the stuff. But he goes in and gets
lit and and then and then yes, the baby's dead.
(03:06):
Two hours later, he wants to fight the doctor. It's
it's ridiculous, and this guy is going to get to
spend the rest of his life in prison. But this
is Look, your car cars are built with technology in
these days that reminds you that yell at you, check
the back seat, and and there's all sorts of of
(03:26):
of other uh uh tools that I've heard use mental
mental things. Uh uh, you know, take your left shoe
off when you when you when you get in the car,
and then always that that's your trigger to remember that
there's that you that you brought your kid with you.
So every time we talked about it, I do think
it's a it's a good p.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
S A it is.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
However, I would suggest that if remembering your left shoe
is the way to do it, If you can't remember
that you got your offspring in the back seat, but
you'll remember that you've got a shoe or a laptop
or a purse in the back seat, that's says a
lot about your priorities.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
And I've got really fancy shoes to roll in the
ass to take them off, So I wouldn't I wouldn't
do that one. And that one's not maybe maybe if
it's like a stiletto or something. Maybe you know, I
don't know what you guys wear, but uh, there's there's
different ways I think to to kind of remember this.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
But I don't know about.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I've talked to folks and there's one of my friends,
he's in law enforcement, and and he tells a story that, look,
I I remember one day I was taking my my, my,
my one year old to daycare. Kid falls asleep. I
just kind of brain, you know, brain fart. I drive
right by daycare and I go to the office and
(04:43):
I'm at I'm in the parking lot at work, and
then I'm like, oh, man, I forgot, you know, And
he could have gotten out of the car, and he
could have left that child in there. Now obviously he didn't.
And and but that that's just sort of a it
is evidence of that mental trap that I think well
intentioned people can can fall into. And the baby doesn't
(05:04):
care that dead is dead, and tragedy is tragedy, and
even in those instances, folks go to jail as they
ought to. But yeah, it's that time of year. And yeah,
the fact that we're talking about it, I think is
a positive.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Yeah, it seems like there's a lot though, I mean,
thirteen so far this summer is thirteen too many.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
And so you brought up an interesting point.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
So there is a difference then between someone like this
guy in Florida who knowingly left his kid in the
car to get a haircut in a couple of beers
versus you know, your buddy.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I mean, he didn't leave a kid in a hot car.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
But somebody who just you know, got distracted and you know,
got somewhere, maybe running into the grocery store, and oh
the kids asleep in the backseat.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
I kind of forgot that the kid was with me?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
As a defense attorney, what's the difference as far as
what kind of you know, sentence that somebody would get.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
On that you follow the mental state, and it's about
the premeditation or the indifference, if you will. So the
more negligent you are and the more of an accident
it is, the less of the punishment you're going to get.
An interesting thing that you see in a lot of
these cases is you see the car alleged as what's
called a deadly weapon, which is something which bias user
(06:17):
intended use can cause serious bodily injury or guest, see
how I just quote, see how I just rattle off
nine point three one of a code of criminal procedure
like that. See that's what you get here earlier. But
you thank you, thank you and so. But it can
be enhanced, is the point. And a lot of times
you do see that, but they're always terrible, they're always tragic,
(06:39):
and in a lot of instances when it is neglect
and it is just a brain fart. Whether you go
to jail, whether you don't go to jail, who wants
to live with that for the rest of their life?
That is that. I don't know how you wake up
every morning. I don't know how you go about your
life ten twenty years later. I don't know how you
(07:01):
do that.
Over on the Legacy Retirement Group dot Com f line
phone line.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
You know, we talk about big Bucks.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
We got to talk about Jeremy Rosenthal, our Dallas defense attorney,
Texas Defense Firm dot com rolling in the dough in Dallas.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Jeremy, how are you this morning?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Every day is Jeremy Rosenthal day in my world? Yeah,
I'll tell you quickly. So the Bobby Bones story, I
love it. I love it. And I have a fourteen
year old daughter who will not listen to anything I say, okay,
and you struggle for conversation. And I'm having lunch with
her yesterday and I'm like, check this out. What would
(00:37):
you think if I give you one point one to
nine million dollars on July first, for every day for
the rest of your life? And so she actually got
interested in the Bobby Bonia story. Never heard she never
heard of the pirates, right, they never heard of the Mets.
But I'm telling you that is how colossally awful that
deal was. So I love Bobby Bonia. I have a
(01:00):
hot dog for him.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
It's so funny. Yeah, yeah, hot dog.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
No ketchup by the way, right, I mean there's no
such either's no you got to just go mustard on
a hot dog.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Right, Uh, yeah, I like it. I like some money.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Okay, that's fine. I just wanted to clarify. I just
wanted to make sure you're on my team on that. No,
no ketchup on a dog.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
You know the reason we wanted to talk to you.
It's not a not a fun story to discuss, Jeremy.
It's as of today, I believe we have thirteen deaths
from kids left in hot cars in this country, and
five of them have happened in the last ten days,
including one just up the road here in Mansfield, Ohio.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Five year old boy was left inside a hot vehicle.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
We've had a stretch really hot weather here in the
last couple of days, and I just don't understand, Jeremy,
how this happens. How people either they decide to leave
their kids in the car because they're going to go
in and pop in and get a beer, or get
a haircut or do something else, or they forget that
they have their kid in the car.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I don't know which is words. It's tragic either way.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
But you're focused on this story out of Florida where
a dad did just that. He went and got his haircut,
he got a beer, he left his eighteen month old
kid in the car at ninety two degrees outside.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
It's so sad.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Yeah, yeah, and you're being nice to the guy. He
got more than one beer, he spent about three hours
in the bar. And his defense and what's really tragic
here in this case, this one's an outlier. Let's be clear.
This happens, and it's terrible, and every time we talk
about it, it's a public service announcement, and hopefully everybody
listening right now makes that mental note that they need
(02:43):
to make to where they don't sort of fall in
this trap. This guy is completely different. This guy's defense
was I thought the fan and cracking the window was
going to help, so he knew the child was in
the car. He goes and gets a haircut, He goes
and goes to it's called hanky pankies. I mean, you
can't make the stuff. But he goes in and gets
lit and and then and then yes, the baby's dead.
(03:06):
Two hours later, he wants to fight the doctor. It's
it's ridiculous, and this guy is going to get to
spend the rest of his life in prison. But this
is Look, your car cars are built with technology in
these days that reminds you that yell at you, check
the back seat, and and there's all sorts of of
(03:26):
of other uh uh tools that I've heard use mental
mental things. Uh uh, you know, take your left shoe
off when you when you when you get in the car,
and then always that that's your trigger to remember that
there's that you that you brought your kid with you.
So every time we talked about it, I do think
it's a it's a good p.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
S A it is.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
However, I would suggest that if remembering your left shoe
is the way to do it, If you can't remember
that you got your offspring in the back seat, but
you'll remember that you've got a shoe or a laptop
or a purse in the back seat, that's says a
lot about your priorities.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
And I've got really fancy shoes to roll in the
ass to take them off, So I wouldn't I wouldn't
do that one. And that one's not maybe maybe if
it's like a stiletto or something. Maybe you know, I
don't know what you guys wear, but uh, there's there's
different ways I think to to kind of remember this.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
But I don't know about.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I've talked to folks and there's one of my friends,
he's in law enforcement, and and he tells a story that, look,
I I remember one day I was taking my my, my,
my one year old to daycare. Kid falls asleep. I
just kind of brain, you know, brain fart. I drive
right by daycare and I go to the office and
(04:43):
I'm at I'm in the parking lot at work, and
then I'm like, oh, man, I forgot, you know, And
he could have gotten out of the car, and he
could have left that child in there. Now obviously he didn't.
And and but that that's just sort of a it
is evidence of that mental trap that I think well
intentioned people can can fall into. And the baby doesn't
(05:04):
care that dead is dead, and tragedy is tragedy, and
even in those instances, folks go to jail as they
ought to. But yeah, it's that time of year. And yeah,
the fact that we're talking about it, I think is
a positive.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Yeah, it seems like there's a lot though, I mean,
thirteen so far this summer is thirteen too many.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
And so you brought up an interesting point.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
So there is a difference then between someone like this
guy in Florida who knowingly left his kid in the
car to get a haircut in a couple of beers
versus you know, your buddy.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I mean, he didn't leave a kid in a hot car.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
But somebody who just you know, got distracted and you know,
got somewhere, maybe running into the grocery store, and oh
the kids asleep in the backseat.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
I kind of forgot that the kid was with me?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
As a defense attorney, what's the difference as far as
what kind of you know, sentence that somebody would get.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
On that you follow the mental state, and it's about
the premeditation or the indifference, if you will. So the
more negligent you are and the more of an accident
it is, the less of the punishment you're going to get.
An interesting thing that you see in a lot of
these cases is you see the car alleged as what's
called a deadly weapon, which is something which bias user
(06:17):
intended use can cause serious bodily injury or guest, see
how I just quote, see how I just rattle off
nine point three one of a code of criminal procedure
like that. See that's what you get here earlier. But
you thank you, thank you and so. But it can
be enhanced, is the point. And a lot of times
you do see that, but they're always terrible, they're always tragic,
(06:39):
and in a lot of instances when it is neglect
and it is just a brain fart. Whether you go
to jail, whether you don't go to jail, who wants
to live with that for the rest of their life?
That is that. I don't know how you wake up
every morning. I don't know how you go about your
life ten twenty years later. I don't know how you
(07:01):
do that.
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