December 8, 2025 • 7 mins
GOP Analyst Bob Clegg discusses the issue as well as the attacks on cocaine boats
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Switch gears go over to the Legacy Retirement Group dot
com phone line. That's where we find our friend, GOP
strategist Bob Clegg from right up here in Delaware County.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Do you watch any college football this weekend? Bob?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Oh my gosh, yes, Oh, and that that game Saturday night.
I'll tell you one field goal away, I guess.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
But whatever, yeah, what whatever?
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Yeah, I mean you feel bad for the kid, uh fielding.
But I mean, I mean, you got you got to
kick a twenty seven yard field goal. I mean, it's
not like it was a fifty six yarder, and you
know it's it's windy. I mean, you're in a dome
and it's it's a chip shot. You gotta you gotta drill.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Those very similar to our lost to Michigan last year.
I say that we're by a field goal.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, it's heartbreaking.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
And then what I'm not what I don't like, Bob,
is that kid getting you know, death threats on social media,
just just getting come. Yeah, I mean again, it's it's terrible.
No what he feels worse about it than he does?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah, you know, I mean that's that's his job, and
I'm sure he feels like he didn't really do it,
but it's not I mean, it's the game, it's the circumstances.
I mean, and he's a kid, it's not like he's
an adult.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yeah, I was almost going to say he's not getting paid,
but I think maybe he is gid.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Hey, let's check in on some political topics.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
The number one issue on Capitol Hill this week is
going to be healthcare as they kind of battle over
the Affordable Care Act, the tax credits, whether to extend these,
and the Republicans they've been sort of struggling to come
up with some sort of legislation that will get enough
votes to fix the core issue of rising Obamacare costs.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
How do you think this is going to play out?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yeah, Mike, we've talked about this before, and you know,
I find it amazing here in Ohio. I just I
just read this here in Ohio. We're going to have
over half a million people who may not be able
to or to any kind of healthcare if they don't
extend these subsidies. Once again, I thought Obamacare was supposed
to take care of all this. Yeah, Why why are
(02:08):
we in a situation where a half a million people
in Ohio are not going to be able to afford
healthcare under Obamacare. It's a tough, tough, tough issue. What
the Republicans are trying to do is balance fiscal common
sense with the political realities of the situation, which is,
(02:32):
you know a lot. You know, if there's a half
a million here in Ohio, Uh, what is that country wide?
That you know people now require these government subsidies to
purchase healthcare. And and we got you know, we got
elections coming up next to November, and that, you know,
Republicans got to be aware of that.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah, that's it's I think it's in everyone's best interest
to get something done specifically for the people who need this.
But you're right, the main, the main issue is we
can't call it the Affordable Care Act anymore if it's
not affordable. How did It's ridiculous that this was supposed
to be for people who can't afford to, you know,
get their companies private healthcare purchased there a couple hundred
(03:15):
bucks a month, and that they were covered on a
minimum level. But it's going to skyrock. I don't understand
how we got there, but Chuck, shoot, well, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I remember you know that they did this because they
couldn't get government health care. So this was just the
first step of the Democrats to get us to a
completely you know, government paid healthcare system, right right.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
And now they want to extend the subsidies for three years.
That's a Chuck Schumer plan that to me seems maybe
a little long. I think, maybe do a temporary, some
sort of one year fix so we can get it
figured out now, and then really drilled down and come
up with a more a permanent solution.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
I guess yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
I mean they're going to have to do something, you know,
kicking the can down the road another year probably makes
the best sense, but only if we come up with
some kind of solution to this Obamacare problem that really
nobody wants to talk about. I mean in the media.
You never hear anybody in the media talking about, well,
(04:22):
maybe this whole Obamacare thing really didn't work out the
way it was supposed to, and I think we need
to do a little more discussion and a little more
steady of what we ended up with and how we
can change it to actually make it work well.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
The whole healthcare I mean, if you want to really
pull back on this, the whole healthcare system is broken way,
it's too expensive, and we start let's start talking about
insurance companies and start talking about pharmacies, and everyone's got
their hand in the till in this one.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Everyone's making a bock.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
There's middle been up and down this chain and it
just gets it gets way out of hand.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
So it's going to be And that's.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
The other issue, Mike in all this is who's going
to get these subsidies? Well, they go directly to the
insurance companies like they had been doing, or should they
go to the individuals, which is what President Trump wants?
And you know, we need to make that kind of
basic decision. I think we should give it to the
individual because the individuals should be able to make those
kinds of healthcare decisions.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I am one on board of that. Let's the insurance
companies do not need more. They do not need these
these breaks at all. Speaking with GOP strategist Bob Clegg
and the other story, the controversy over these these Venezuelan
coke boat strikes continues to grow and Defense Secretary Pete
(05:37):
heggsaf is doubling down. He said he's seen the videos
of the second boat or the second strike on that
first boat after there were survivors on that one, and
he said he fully supports that, and he said he'd
made the same decision again.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yeah, my kid. We gotten to the point in this
country where we have politicians, namely Democrats, who are defending
drug smugglers. I mean, that's where we're at right now.
What is this world has turned upside down? What is
so wrong with bombing these boats that have drug traffickers
(06:15):
in them. I mean, all it does is they're bringing
drugs into our country and killing our own people here.
I don't get how we're out there now trying to
protect drug smugglers from being attacked.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Yeah, we're supposed to feel bad for these guys that
they survived the first attack and they were trying to
radio help from another boat in the area to a
save their lives, be save the drugs.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I'm on the side of I want American lives to
be saved and no one overdosing and these drugs not
even coming into the country to begin with.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
That's what team I'm on.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I mean, sorry that these guys lost their lives, but
you know what, maybe don't be on a Venezuelan coke
boat and you'll.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Be okay, yeah, maybe find a better line of work. Okay, yes,
maybe that could solve this problem. But I cannot believe
the Democrat members of Congress going public with, oh, this
is terrible. I cannot believe we're we're attacking these people
after they're trying to cling to a boat. Well, you
(07:18):
know what, when the boats full of drugs, that's that's
go after us.
Switch gears go over to the Legacy Retirement Group dot
com phone line. That's where we find our friend, GOP
strategist Bob Clegg from right up here in Delaware County.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Do you watch any college football this weekend? Bob?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Oh my gosh, yes, Oh, and that that game Saturday night.
I'll tell you one field goal away, I guess.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
But whatever, yeah, what whatever?
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Yeah, I mean you feel bad for the kid, uh fielding.
But I mean, I mean, you got you got to
kick a twenty seven yard field goal. I mean, it's
not like it was a fifty six yarder, and you
know it's it's windy. I mean, you're in a dome
and it's it's a chip shot. You gotta you gotta drill.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Those very similar to our lost to Michigan last year.
I say that we're by a field goal.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, it's heartbreaking.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
And then what I'm not what I don't like, Bob,
is that kid getting you know, death threats on social media,
just just getting come. Yeah, I mean again, it's it's terrible.
No what he feels worse about it than he does?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah, you know, I mean that's that's his job, and
I'm sure he feels like he didn't really do it,
but it's not I mean, it's the game, it's the circumstances.
I mean, and he's a kid, it's not like he's
an adult.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yeah, I was almost going to say he's not getting paid,
but I think maybe he is gid.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Hey, let's check in on some political topics.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
The number one issue on Capitol Hill this week is
going to be healthcare as they kind of battle over
the Affordable Care Act, the tax credits, whether to extend these,
and the Republicans they've been sort of struggling to come
up with some sort of legislation that will get enough
votes to fix the core issue of rising Obamacare costs.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
How do you think this is going to play out?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yeah, Mike, we've talked about this before, and you know,
I find it amazing here in Ohio. I just I
just read this here in Ohio. We're going to have
over half a million people who may not be able
to or to any kind of healthcare if they don't
extend these subsidies. Once again, I thought Obamacare was supposed
to take care of all this. Yeah, Why why are
(02:08):
we in a situation where a half a million people
in Ohio are not going to be able to afford
healthcare under Obamacare. It's a tough, tough, tough issue. What
the Republicans are trying to do is balance fiscal common
sense with the political realities of the situation, which is,
(02:32):
you know a lot. You know, if there's a half
a million here in Ohio, Uh, what is that country wide?
That you know people now require these government subsidies to
purchase healthcare. And and we got you know, we got
elections coming up next to November, and that, you know,
Republicans got to be aware of that.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah, that's it's I think it's in everyone's best interest
to get something done specifically for the people who need this.
But you're right, the main, the main issue is we
can't call it the Affordable Care Act anymore if it's
not affordable. How did It's ridiculous that this was supposed
to be for people who can't afford to, you know,
get their companies private healthcare purchased there a couple hundred
(03:15):
bucks a month, and that they were covered on a
minimum level. But it's going to skyrock. I don't understand
how we got there, but Chuck, shoot, well, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I remember you know that they did this because they
couldn't get government health care. So this was just the
first step of the Democrats to get us to a
completely you know, government paid healthcare system, right right.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
And now they want to extend the subsidies for three years.
That's a Chuck Schumer plan that to me seems maybe
a little long. I think, maybe do a temporary, some
sort of one year fix so we can get it
figured out now, and then really drilled down and come
up with a more a permanent solution.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
I guess yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
I mean they're going to have to do something, you know,
kicking the can down the road another year probably makes
the best sense, but only if we come up with
some kind of solution to this Obamacare problem that really
nobody wants to talk about. I mean in the media.
You never hear anybody in the media talking about, well,
(04:22):
maybe this whole Obamacare thing really didn't work out the
way it was supposed to, and I think we need
to do a little more discussion and a little more
steady of what we ended up with and how we
can change it to actually make it work well.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
The whole healthcare I mean, if you want to really
pull back on this, the whole healthcare system is broken way,
it's too expensive, and we start let's start talking about
insurance companies and start talking about pharmacies, and everyone's got
their hand in the till in this one.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Everyone's making a bock.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
There's middle been up and down this chain and it
just gets it gets way out of hand.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
So it's going to be And that's.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
The other issue, Mike in all this is who's going
to get these subsidies? Well, they go directly to the
insurance companies like they had been doing, or should they
go to the individuals, which is what President Trump wants?
And you know, we need to make that kind of
basic decision. I think we should give it to the
individual because the individuals should be able to make those
kinds of healthcare decisions.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I am one on board of that. Let's the insurance
companies do not need more. They do not need these
these breaks at all. Speaking with GOP strategist Bob Clegg
and the other story, the controversy over these these Venezuelan
coke boat strikes continues to grow and Defense Secretary Pete
(05:37):
heggsaf is doubling down. He said he's seen the videos
of the second boat or the second strike on that
first boat after there were survivors on that one, and
he said he fully supports that, and he said he'd
made the same decision again.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yeah, my kid. We gotten to the point in this
country where we have politicians, namely Democrats, who are defending
drug smugglers. I mean, that's where we're at right now.
What is this world has turned upside down? What is
so wrong with bombing these boats that have drug traffickers
(06:15):
in them. I mean, all it does is they're bringing
drugs into our country and killing our own people here.
I don't get how we're out there now trying to
protect drug smugglers from being attacked.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Yeah, we're supposed to feel bad for these guys that
they survived the first attack and they were trying to
radio help from another boat in the area to a
save their lives, be save the drugs.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I'm on the side of I want American lives to
be saved and no one overdosing and these drugs not
even coming into the country to begin with.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
That's what team I'm on.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I mean, sorry that these guys lost their lives, but
you know what, maybe don't be on a Venezuelan coke
boat and you'll.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Be okay, yeah, maybe find a better line of work. Okay, yes,
maybe that could solve this problem. But I cannot believe
the Democrat members of Congress going public with, oh, this
is terrible. I cannot believe we're we're attacking these people
after they're trying to cling to a boat. Well, you
(07:18):
know what, when the boats full of drugs, that's that's
go after us.
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