August 6, 2025 • 10 mins
Fox News Contributor Liz Peek discusses her latest article which can be found at foxnews.com or lizpeek.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On the Legacy Retirement Group dot com phone line, one
of our all time favorites. Every Wednesday at about ten
after eight, you can see her on Fox News, Fox Business.
You can read her work at Foxnews dot com or
just go right to the source, Lizpeak dot com on
the Legacy Retirement Group dot com phone line. Liz, good morning.
I hope you're doing well. It's been a really, really
rough week for the Clintons. We've seen the subpoenas coming
(00:22):
in for Bill and Hillary, for the Epstein situation. You've
got the Grand jury investigation into the twenty sixteen election,
fake Russia Gate interference story, and yeah, Hillary probably not
sleeping very well here the last couple of nights.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Well, that's hope. So I mean, I am. You know,
you're very kind to sort of reference a column that
I just put out. I was literally riding my bike
and thinking what must it be like to be Hillary
Clinton and trying to put myself in her shoes. For
ten years, she has known that she caused this nation
(01:00):
almost unbelievable disruption, expense, heartbreak, All the people who got
trashed because of Russia Gate, who got subpoena, who got
put in jail who got famed, and Hillary Clinton set
this in motion. And by the way, I think Obama
did too. I mean, I don't think I think Hillary
(01:22):
Clinton's sins pre date Russia Gate. I think, you know,
she's just a horrible person. And you know, one of
the things that I think so interesting is that it
still has a pretty big following. You know, when you
rank the most popular women in the United States, Michelle
Obama's always number one, but Hillary's not too far down
the list, and when you consider all the things that
(01:45):
she is responsible for. When she ran for president in
twenty sixteen, at the time of the Democratic Convention, something
like thirty percent of Americans thought she was honest and
trust her. That is a pretty appalling sounding on what
Americans thought about her. Americans didn't like Hillary. There was
(02:08):
enough out there that they thought she was a crook.
The Clinton Foundation had gotten a lot of press, including
by the way, back then from me, because the foundation
was just a sham. Basically, it was a way to
raise untold amounts of money from not just domestic sources
but also foreigners, who in effect were funding Hillary's political
(02:33):
campaign because at the foundation they basically hired all the
people who were in the Hillary's political orbit, and they
could keep her on the playroll because of all this
money rolling in, and I mean, you know, people were
currying favor with somebody that they thought was going to
be a president. Well, anyway, fast forward to today, and yeah,
(02:56):
the chickens are coming home to roost. She must be
terrified that all this stuff that she did is going
to be paraded out and whatever reputation she still has,
and it's not much. I mean, whenever she has tried
to do a speaking tour, write a book, whatever, it
hasn't gone very well because I think more than half
(03:17):
the country has just sort of put her aside and said,
you know what, we don't really want anything more to
do with this person, including, by the way, I think
now the Democratic Party, which is probably a smart thing.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yeah, no doubt, they don't really want much to do
with the Clintons anymore. Liz, I find it hard to
imagine a situation where there's going to be an accept
acceptable outcome on this because, as you know, nothing ever happens.
I think that's what has most people frustrated is they
see this build up and Okay, there's investigations, there's Subpoenas
(03:51):
we're moving forward, there's someone's going to finally have to
pay the piper on this, and then it just simply
goes away. Do you see an outcome here?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Well, and so here's a thought about that. In the
last four years, everything got scuttled because you had been politicized.
Biden run Merrick Garland run Department of Justice, and you
could have served up a likely prosecution of almost anyone
(04:24):
in the Democratic Party and they would have ignored it.
I mean, that's kind of what they did, right. Instead,
they put trained all their guns on the people who
barely took place or barely participated in the Jay six
riots and Donald Trump. I mean that was kind of
their big mission was to get Donald Trump. So I
think today is different. I mean, you've got Donald Trump
(04:46):
in the White House. You've got a Department of Justice
which is pretty ants up about, you know, pursuing some
of these leads. But I know what you're saying, because
we have these Congressions hearings, like remember the hearings on
BEng Ghazi. Everybody knows that he'll relied about Benghazi. Nothing happened,
(05:07):
And I think some of the time, when you take
a step back and you try to sort of look
at objectively. What were they going to charge her for
lying to the American people? I don't know that that's
a crime, and that was a crime two thirds of
Congress right now, right, I mean, so it is frustrating
beyond words. Yes, there's public shaming, and I think that's
(05:30):
probably probably what we have to content ourselves with here.
But with Hillary, but I don't know. Maybe they'll get
her on something. It would be astonishing, I think. To
answer your question, I think the odds of her doing
prison time about one in one thousand. I just can't
imagine that actually happening. For one thing, They'll spool out
the legal challenges forever, the discovery will be painful, all
(05:56):
that kind of stuff. Look, even now, when you have
a Republican Congress and a Republican led DOJ, it's still
sometimes very difficult for the congressional committees to get the
materials they want. I don't know why, but that's you know,
that's that's a slump, right, that's how it works.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
You can read more on this story. Liz's website is
lizpeak dot com. Liz joining us every Wednesday at this time.
What do you make of this situation in Texas, Liz
with this the Democrats leaving the state so that they
can't vote on the redistricting there. I think it's ironic
that they all fled to Illinois, which is probably the
most jerrymandered state in the country by Democrats there. It's
(06:38):
just a little bit of irony. But this is again
when you talk about something that there's never going to
be any real resolve or outcome to. This is all
performative by the Democrats to try to prove a point,
but they're not going to face any real consequences because
of this.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Well, I think that's probably true. I think you'd have
such an uproar as they actually took their seats away,
which they have threatened to do. I think they can
be fined. They should be fined. It's against the law
to do what they are doing. I can't imagine that
most voters think that fleeing equates with fighting. I mean,
(07:16):
that's what that's one of their leaders said yesterday on cameras,
Like people say, we're fleeing, No, we're fighting. Well, how
are you fighting if you're not even sticking around? I
think it's pretty lame. But to the bigger issue of redistricting.
Generally speaking, I don't like remanagering. I don't think it's right,
but this is a big butt. The twenty twenty census
(07:39):
was pretty screwed up. We all know that. We all
know that Texas should have had one more seat. We
know that New York should have lost at least one,
if not two, more seats. And why is that? Because
they interestingly, they overcounted I think it was seven states,
only one of which was a Republican state. They under
(08:00):
counted blue states, five of them or six of them,
and only one was Republican. So if you just take
those things and the question is why was it purposeful?
I don't think so. But it just happened to turn
out that way, and it was all COVID related and
so forth. So you could argue that having a mid
decade reapportionment is not the craziest thing that could happen.
(08:24):
I mean, five seats in Texas clearly is tilting them
up a little bit. But if you look, there are
a lot of states where a good portion of the
population Connecticut is an example, is Republican, and they don't
have a single Republican representative in Congress, So there's something
wrong with that. And I personally think and I had
(08:44):
certainly biased here, that Democrats have used this tool much
more effectively than Republicans my initiative. Remember just two years
ago that Democrats in New York tried to do an
unbelievable redistrict thing that was so heinous that even the
court said, no, this does not work with threw it out.
They do it all the time, and I think they
(09:05):
use it pre effectively. So my first response to Abbott
and Texas legislators doing this, yeah, let's get tough. Let's
get as tough as they are, because Republicans, generally speaking
or not, we aren't as divided and we aren't as unified.
We don't speak the same language constantly the way that
Democrats do, and we are not as ruthless as they are.
(09:27):
So you know, I'm not one hundred percent negative on this,
although I think, you know, I'd love to see this
just basically never happen on either side.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
I'm glad you brought up the census because that really
is the root of the problem here that people really
aren't talking about. So I don't know what it takes
to get a like you said a sort of another
bumper crop of a census for lack of a better term,
middle of the decade, to kind of even that playing field.
Because you're right, if you have to jerry mander, if
(09:56):
you've got to put your thumb on the scale, it
means you've got bad leadership. It means you're not thinking
you can win elections fair and square, that you've got
to tilt the scales in your favor. So I would say, well,
you know, have better policy, run better candidates, and then
you won't need a jerrymanter because people will like your
messaging and they'll want to vote for you. And the
Democrats just don't do that.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I think that's exactly right. They can't win on the merits,
so they have to cheat. And now the other thing,
and we don't have time to talk about this, is
the fact that the census in twenty twenty Trump tried
to change this, but they still counted illegals. So you've
had a bumper crop of No. No, I mean that's
a serious thing. Hundreds of thousands of illegals in states
(10:37):
at California and New York. That pumps up your numbers,
It pumps up how many seats you have in Congress.
I have felt for twenty years that is totally wrong.
Those people are not in this country legally. They're not
legal citizens. They should not be represented in Congress, and
yet they are
On the Legacy Retirement Group dot com phone line, one
of our all time favorites. Every Wednesday at about ten
after eight, you can see her on Fox News, Fox Business.
You can read her work at Foxnews dot com or
just go right to the source, Lizpeak dot com on
the Legacy Retirement Group dot com phone line. Liz, good morning.
I hope you're doing well. It's been a really, really
rough week for the Clintons. We've seen the subpoenas coming
(00:22):
in for Bill and Hillary, for the Epstein situation. You've
got the Grand jury investigation into the twenty sixteen election,
fake Russia Gate interference story, and yeah, Hillary probably not
sleeping very well here the last couple of nights.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Well, that's hope. So I mean, I am. You know,
you're very kind to sort of reference a column that
I just put out. I was literally riding my bike
and thinking what must it be like to be Hillary
Clinton and trying to put myself in her shoes. For
ten years, she has known that she caused this nation
(01:00):
almost unbelievable disruption, expense, heartbreak, All the people who got
trashed because of Russia Gate, who got subpoena, who got
put in jail who got famed, and Hillary Clinton set
this in motion. And by the way, I think Obama
did too. I mean, I don't think I think Hillary
(01:22):
Clinton's sins pre date Russia Gate. I think, you know,
she's just a horrible person. And you know, one of
the things that I think so interesting is that it
still has a pretty big following. You know, when you
rank the most popular women in the United States, Michelle
Obama's always number one, but Hillary's not too far down
the list, and when you consider all the things that
(01:45):
she is responsible for. When she ran for president in
twenty sixteen, at the time of the Democratic Convention, something
like thirty percent of Americans thought she was honest and
trust her. That is a pretty appalling sounding on what
Americans thought about her. Americans didn't like Hillary. There was
(02:08):
enough out there that they thought she was a crook.
The Clinton Foundation had gotten a lot of press, including
by the way, back then from me, because the foundation
was just a sham. Basically, it was a way to
raise untold amounts of money from not just domestic sources
but also foreigners, who in effect were funding Hillary's political
(02:33):
campaign because at the foundation they basically hired all the
people who were in the Hillary's political orbit, and they
could keep her on the playroll because of all this
money rolling in, and I mean, you know, people were
currying favor with somebody that they thought was going to
be a president. Well, anyway, fast forward to today, and yeah,
(02:56):
the chickens are coming home to roost. She must be
terrified that all this stuff that she did is going
to be paraded out and whatever reputation she still has,
and it's not much. I mean, whenever she has tried
to do a speaking tour, write a book, whatever, it
hasn't gone very well because I think more than half
(03:17):
the country has just sort of put her aside and said,
you know what, we don't really want anything more to
do with this person, including, by the way, I think
now the Democratic Party, which is probably a smart thing.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yeah, no doubt, they don't really want much to do
with the Clintons anymore. Liz, I find it hard to
imagine a situation where there's going to be an accept
acceptable outcome on this because, as you know, nothing ever happens.
I think that's what has most people frustrated is they
see this build up and Okay, there's investigations, there's Subpoenas
(03:51):
we're moving forward, there's someone's going to finally have to
pay the piper on this, and then it just simply
goes away. Do you see an outcome here?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Well, and so here's a thought about that. In the
last four years, everything got scuttled because you had been politicized.
Biden run Merrick Garland run Department of Justice, and you
could have served up a likely prosecution of almost anyone
(04:24):
in the Democratic Party and they would have ignored it.
I mean, that's kind of what they did, right. Instead,
they put trained all their guns on the people who
barely took place or barely participated in the Jay six
riots and Donald Trump. I mean that was kind of
their big mission was to get Donald Trump. So I
think today is different. I mean, you've got Donald Trump
(04:46):
in the White House. You've got a Department of Justice
which is pretty ants up about, you know, pursuing some
of these leads. But I know what you're saying, because
we have these Congressions hearings, like remember the hearings on
BEng Ghazi. Everybody knows that he'll relied about Benghazi. Nothing happened,
(05:07):
And I think some of the time, when you take
a step back and you try to sort of look
at objectively. What were they going to charge her for
lying to the American people? I don't know that that's
a crime, and that was a crime two thirds of
Congress right now, right, I mean, so it is frustrating
beyond words. Yes, there's public shaming, and I think that's
(05:30):
probably probably what we have to content ourselves with here.
But with Hillary, but I don't know. Maybe they'll get
her on something. It would be astonishing, I think. To
answer your question, I think the odds of her doing
prison time about one in one thousand. I just can't
imagine that actually happening. For one thing, They'll spool out
the legal challenges forever, the discovery will be painful, all
(05:56):
that kind of stuff. Look, even now, when you have
a Republican Congress and a Republican led DOJ, it's still
sometimes very difficult for the congressional committees to get the
materials they want. I don't know why, but that's you know,
that's that's a slump, right, that's how it works.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
You can read more on this story. Liz's website is
lizpeak dot com. Liz joining us every Wednesday at this time.
What do you make of this situation in Texas, Liz
with this the Democrats leaving the state so that they
can't vote on the redistricting there. I think it's ironic
that they all fled to Illinois, which is probably the
most jerrymandered state in the country by Democrats there. It's
(06:38):
just a little bit of irony. But this is again
when you talk about something that there's never going to
be any real resolve or outcome to. This is all
performative by the Democrats to try to prove a point,
but they're not going to face any real consequences because
of this.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Well, I think that's probably true. I think you'd have
such an uproar as they actually took their seats away,
which they have threatened to do. I think they can
be fined. They should be fined. It's against the law
to do what they are doing. I can't imagine that
most voters think that fleeing equates with fighting. I mean,
(07:16):
that's what that's one of their leaders said yesterday on cameras,
Like people say, we're fleeing, No, we're fighting. Well, how
are you fighting if you're not even sticking around? I
think it's pretty lame. But to the bigger issue of redistricting.
Generally speaking, I don't like remanagering. I don't think it's right,
but this is a big butt. The twenty twenty census
(07:39):
was pretty screwed up. We all know that. We all
know that Texas should have had one more seat. We
know that New York should have lost at least one,
if not two, more seats. And why is that? Because
they interestingly, they overcounted I think it was seven states,
only one of which was a Republican state. They under
(08:00):
counted blue states, five of them or six of them,
and only one was Republican. So if you just take
those things and the question is why was it purposeful?
I don't think so. But it just happened to turn
out that way, and it was all COVID related and
so forth. So you could argue that having a mid
decade reapportionment is not the craziest thing that could happen.
(08:24):
I mean, five seats in Texas clearly is tilting them
up a little bit. But if you look, there are
a lot of states where a good portion of the
population Connecticut is an example, is Republican, and they don't
have a single Republican representative in Congress, So there's something
wrong with that. And I personally think and I had
(08:44):
certainly biased here, that Democrats have used this tool much
more effectively than Republicans my initiative. Remember just two years
ago that Democrats in New York tried to do an
unbelievable redistrict thing that was so heinous that even the
court said, no, this does not work with threw it out.
They do it all the time, and I think they
(09:05):
use it pre effectively. So my first response to Abbott
and Texas legislators doing this, yeah, let's get tough. Let's
get as tough as they are, because Republicans, generally speaking
or not, we aren't as divided and we aren't as unified.
We don't speak the same language constantly the way that
Democrats do, and we are not as ruthless as they are.
(09:27):
So you know, I'm not one hundred percent negative on this,
although I think, you know, I'd love to see this
just basically never happen on either side.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
I'm glad you brought up the census because that really
is the root of the problem here that people really
aren't talking about. So I don't know what it takes
to get a like you said a sort of another
bumper crop of a census for lack of a better term,
middle of the decade, to kind of even that playing field.
Because you're right, if you have to jerry mander, if
(09:56):
you've got to put your thumb on the scale, it
means you've got bad leadership. It means you're not thinking
you can win elections fair and square, that you've got
to tilt the scales in your favor. So I would say, well,
you know, have better policy, run better candidates, and then
you won't need a jerrymanter because people will like your
messaging and they'll want to vote for you. And the
Democrats just don't do that.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I think that's exactly right. They can't win on the merits,
so they have to cheat. And now the other thing,
and we don't have time to talk about this, is
the fact that the census in twenty twenty Trump tried
to change this, but they still counted illegals. So you've
had a bumper crop of No. No, I mean that's
a serious thing. Hundreds of thousands of illegals in states
(10:37):
at California and New York. That pumps up your numbers,
It pumps up how many seats you have in Congress.
I have felt for twenty years that is totally wrong.
Those people are not in this country legally. They're not
legal citizens. They should not be represented in Congress, and
yet they are
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