July 14, 2025 • 8 mins
GOP Analyst Bob Clegg looks at the Gubernatorial race as well as other important state races
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Speaking to people that are ageless and timeless and and
as camp he said, probably laying on the deck of
a boat on the lake somewhere in the speedo. Political
consultant Bob Claig standing by on the Legacy Retirement Group
dot Com phone lines. Good morning to you, Bob.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
How are you, Hey, Jack? How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
And I'm doing fairly well, a little twisted, but that's
normal for me. So you and I are going to
talk a little bit this morning. I was, you know,
with Blazer the other day. I was, I was talking
about the fact that I think Amy acting as a placeholder.
I think because she's completely inactive. They said, here's our candidate,
and she's done nothing. She's there simply to hold a spot.
I truly believe this. For Governor Shared Brown.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Well, I mean, you may be right. I think the
Democrats are hoping that she's a placeholder. But you know,
one thing about Shared she's very careful and calculating. When
he ran back way back in two thousand and six
against Mike de Wine for that for Mike Dwine two Senate,
(01:00):
he initially in two thousand and five said he wasn't
going to run, but then he saw the political environment changing,
and you know, and then early in two thousand and six,
he goes, I changed her mind. I'm going to run
because he saw a good chance of winning. I don't
know if he sees a good chance of winning this
time around, and that and he doesn't want to His
(01:22):
ego cannot take another defeat. So I think he's gonna
be very very careful about this. But the problem that
Democrats have. The longer he waits to make a decision,
the harder it's going to be to get somebody else
other than Amy Axton to be their nominee.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I wonder if the I don't know, I don't want
to use the wrong term, but essentially the sneak attack
mentality is there because you know, the Ohio Republican Party
has already put all its chips in the in the
the the vac Ramaswami. I don't get why, honestly, I
don't and nothing against Ramaswami, but there's those lot of
(02:00):
fish in the ocean. You tell your daughter when she
loses a boyfriend. It seems a little early for the
Republicans to say this is him, this is our man?
Is this now? If we're not if we think Amy
Acton is all they got, and then fifteen minutes before showtime,
Share It pops on stage and says Gravening, everyone, we
got a battle on our hands we're not ready for
(02:21):
and I have to wonder if that's not the strategy.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Well, Chuck, as far as the vague thing that's going on,
I mean, he is the only Republican candidate that is
endorsed by Donald Trump. Okay, so as you've seen in
the last few cycles, if you're endorsed by Donald Trump, Trump,
You're going to win that Republican primary. So I think
the Republican Party here in Ohio is pretty much seeing
(02:46):
that handwriting on the wall, which is why they are
all in on the vy. But the Democrats, you know,
they got a problem in that. You know, they saw
back in twenty twenty two they had Nan Whaley as
their venatorial candidate. Very weak candidates, yeah, obviously because she
lost big to Mike dwine And if you're going to
lose big to Mike Dwaine, you've got to be a
(03:08):
pretty weak candidate. So, I mean they're facing the same
thing in twenty twenty six. And when we saw in
twenty twenty two that that that race for governor and
affected the turnout in such a way that JD. Vance
ended up winning that you have a Senate seat. And
we're looking at the same thing going on with John
you said, running for the Senate in twenty twenty six.
(03:30):
So that's the problem the Democrats are looking at. But
they're only you know, their only uh uh, you know,
problem solving thing out there is share It. And I'm
not all that sure he's going to do it again.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah, and if he does this, by the way, on
the Legacy Retirement Group dot com phone lines right now
is Bob Claig, political strategist and analyst and generally looks
good in sandals. Bob is Bob is talking with me
right now about, you know, the the governorship of the
state of Ohio. My contention. So, I think, first of all,
Shared Brown and Missus Brown recently relocated from Cleveland down
(04:07):
here to the State House capitol, and I think that
is an indication. I think that him running, he takes
Kuyahoga easy, he takes Franklin, he takes Hamilton, and there's
only like eight other people that vote in Ohio after
those three counties. I don't know that if the Trump
train slows. Bondi continues to fight with Patel, and Pateel
(04:28):
continues to fight with Bongino. I don't know that those
rural voters mobilize in our gubernatorial election the way that
they would if the whole Malga movement was as solid
as it was at the beginning of this administration. I
just I don't know. Man. If I were in Shared
Brown's quarter, I would probably be pushing him into the
center of the ring right now and say, go ahead,
(04:49):
do it, share it, because this I think this is
a prime opportunity. I really do.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, No, you're right. I mean we saw in twenty
eighteen in the midterm in Donald Trump's first term that
you know, Republicans didn't do all that well. We lost
the US House, and you know, we did pretty well
here in Ohio, we swept everything like like always, but
you know, it was not a great year. But the
(05:15):
thing that Shared's looking at is the veg sitting on
how much nine million right now, and he can self
fund four times that, So it's going to be still
even if the environment's not that strong, still going to
be a tough race.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
I don't know if I could handle press conferences sounding
like this for four years. That would be another time.
Plus the absolute disdain for Combs, I think that would
grow in the state of Ohio. People wouldn't like Combs anymore.
Any other statewide races that are heavy on your mind
right now that are coming up that we need to
(05:52):
be thinking about talking about or nobody's paying attention to
and should.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Be Well, I just mentioned it, but it's a race
that I think really doesn't get a much attention because
of all the attention on the gubernatorial race. But I
mean John Houston's got to run for the remainder of
that US Senate term of JD. Vance's that he was
appointed to, and that's that's a nationally important race because
(06:17):
the Republicans got to keep control of the US Senate.
I mean, whether they can keep control of the US
House is is you know, coint off at this point,
I think, But the Senate is a different story. They
gotta hold that if the House is gonna flip, they
gotta still control the Senate. And that should not a
(06:39):
Senate race here in Ohio. U should not they should
not be ignored. It's it's it's really important.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I've noticed some old names coming back into you know,
some prominence with the Ohio Republicans here in the past
few weeks, Jane Timpkin being one of them. She she
popped back up after virtual silence for a couple of years.
And I got me wondering that the upper echelon, if
you will, of the Ohio Republicans do they ever get
(07:10):
together outside of the general party discussion and and kind
of come up with ideas and strategies, because frankly, I
was a bit disappointed the whole gubernatorial thing. We kind
of looked like the Keystone cops. You know, I'm not
running for Gabtor, You're runing for Gabetor And like, oh
my gosh, I didn't know who our candidate was. And
(07:31):
then everybody I thought was a potential candidate said, okay,
we're out. And do they do they get together and
have privately? Look, guys, we're the top three, we're the
top four. We've got to come to some conclusions here.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Chuck, do you actually believe politics is that organized?
Speaker 1 (07:47):
No?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
No, it isn't. No. And and what happened was the
Houston appointment to the US Senate seat caused a domino effect,
and that's when you saw people, you know, dropping out
and moving into different races. And it's a problem that
we Republicans have here in Ohio, and it's a problem
of too much success. The Democrats wish they would have
(08:12):
this problem where they have all these statewide officials who
have been elected statewide multiple times who need to go
into another office because they're being term limited. The Democrats
wish they had that problem. Thank god they don't. But no, Chuck,
let me assure you. Political parties are not that organized.
Speaking to people that are ageless and timeless and and
as camp he said, probably laying on the deck of
a boat on the lake somewhere in the speedo. Political
consultant Bob Claig standing by on the Legacy Retirement Group
dot Com phone lines. Good morning to you, Bob.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
How are you, Hey, Jack? How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
And I'm doing fairly well, a little twisted, but that's
normal for me. So you and I are going to
talk a little bit this morning. I was, you know,
with Blazer the other day. I was, I was talking
about the fact that I think Amy acting as a placeholder.
I think because she's completely inactive. They said, here's our candidate,
and she's done nothing. She's there simply to hold a spot.
I truly believe this. For Governor Shared Brown.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Well, I mean, you may be right. I think the
Democrats are hoping that she's a placeholder. But you know,
one thing about Shared she's very careful and calculating. When
he ran back way back in two thousand and six
against Mike de Wine for that for Mike Dwine two Senate,
(01:00):
he initially in two thousand and five said he wasn't
going to run, but then he saw the political environment changing,
and you know, and then early in two thousand and six,
he goes, I changed her mind. I'm going to run
because he saw a good chance of winning. I don't
know if he sees a good chance of winning this
time around, and that and he doesn't want to His
(01:22):
ego cannot take another defeat. So I think he's gonna
be very very careful about this. But the problem that
Democrats have. The longer he waits to make a decision,
the harder it's going to be to get somebody else
other than Amy Axton to be their nominee.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I wonder if the I don't know, I don't want
to use the wrong term, but essentially the sneak attack
mentality is there because you know, the Ohio Republican Party
has already put all its chips in the in the
the the vac Ramaswami. I don't get why, honestly, I
don't and nothing against Ramaswami, but there's those lot of
(02:00):
fish in the ocean. You tell your daughter when she
loses a boyfriend. It seems a little early for the
Republicans to say this is him, this is our man?
Is this now? If we're not if we think Amy
Acton is all they got, and then fifteen minutes before showtime,
Share It pops on stage and says Gravening, everyone, we
got a battle on our hands we're not ready for
(02:21):
and I have to wonder if that's not the strategy.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Well, Chuck, as far as the vague thing that's going on,
I mean, he is the only Republican candidate that is
endorsed by Donald Trump. Okay, so as you've seen in
the last few cycles, if you're endorsed by Donald Trump, Trump,
You're going to win that Republican primary. So I think
the Republican Party here in Ohio is pretty much seeing
(02:46):
that handwriting on the wall, which is why they are
all in on the vy. But the Democrats, you know,
they got a problem in that. You know, they saw
back in twenty twenty two they had Nan Whaley as
their venatorial candidate. Very weak candidates, yeah, obviously because she
lost big to Mike dwine And if you're going to
lose big to Mike Dwaine, you've got to be a
(03:08):
pretty weak candidate. So, I mean they're facing the same
thing in twenty twenty six. And when we saw in
twenty twenty two that that that race for governor and
affected the turnout in such a way that JD. Vance
ended up winning that you have a Senate seat. And
we're looking at the same thing going on with John
you said, running for the Senate in twenty twenty six.
(03:30):
So that's the problem the Democrats are looking at. But
they're only you know, their only uh uh, you know,
problem solving thing out there is share It. And I'm
not all that sure he's going to do it again.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah, and if he does this, by the way, on
the Legacy Retirement Group dot com phone lines right now
is Bob Claig, political strategist and analyst and generally looks
good in sandals. Bob is Bob is talking with me
right now about, you know, the the governorship of the
state of Ohio. My contention. So, I think, first of all,
Shared Brown and Missus Brown recently relocated from Cleveland down
(04:07):
here to the State House capitol, and I think that
is an indication. I think that him running, he takes
Kuyahoga easy, he takes Franklin, he takes Hamilton, and there's
only like eight other people that vote in Ohio after
those three counties. I don't know that if the Trump
train slows. Bondi continues to fight with Patel, and Pateel
(04:28):
continues to fight with Bongino. I don't know that those
rural voters mobilize in our gubernatorial election the way that
they would if the whole Malga movement was as solid
as it was at the beginning of this administration. I
just I don't know. Man. If I were in Shared
Brown's quarter, I would probably be pushing him into the
center of the ring right now and say, go ahead,
(04:49):
do it, share it, because this I think this is
a prime opportunity. I really do.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, No, you're right. I mean we saw in twenty
eighteen in the midterm in Donald Trump's first term that
you know, Republicans didn't do all that well. We lost
the US House, and you know, we did pretty well
here in Ohio, we swept everything like like always, but
you know, it was not a great year. But the
(05:15):
thing that Shared's looking at is the veg sitting on
how much nine million right now, and he can self
fund four times that, So it's going to be still
even if the environment's not that strong, still going to
be a tough race.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
I don't know if I could handle press conferences sounding
like this for four years. That would be another time.
Plus the absolute disdain for Combs, I think that would
grow in the state of Ohio. People wouldn't like Combs anymore.
Any other statewide races that are heavy on your mind
right now that are coming up that we need to
(05:52):
be thinking about talking about or nobody's paying attention to
and should.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Be Well, I just mentioned it, but it's a race
that I think really doesn't get a much attention because
of all the attention on the gubernatorial race. But I
mean John Houston's got to run for the remainder of
that US Senate term of JD. Vance's that he was
appointed to, and that's that's a nationally important race because
(06:17):
the Republicans got to keep control of the US Senate.
I mean, whether they can keep control of the US
House is is you know, coint off at this point,
I think, But the Senate is a different story. They
gotta hold that if the House is gonna flip, they
gotta still control the Senate. And that should not a
(06:39):
Senate race here in Ohio. U should not they should
not be ignored. It's it's it's really important.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I've noticed some old names coming back into you know,
some prominence with the Ohio Republicans here in the past
few weeks, Jane Timpkin being one of them. She she
popped back up after virtual silence for a couple of years.
And I got me wondering that the upper echelon, if
you will, of the Ohio Republicans do they ever get
(07:10):
together outside of the general party discussion and and kind
of come up with ideas and strategies, because frankly, I
was a bit disappointed the whole gubernatorial thing. We kind
of looked like the Keystone cops. You know, I'm not
running for Gabtor, You're runing for Gabetor And like, oh
my gosh, I didn't know who our candidate was. And
(07:31):
then everybody I thought was a potential candidate said, okay,
we're out. And do they do they get together and
have privately? Look, guys, we're the top three, we're the
top four. We've got to come to some conclusions here.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Chuck, do you actually believe politics is that organized?
Speaker 1 (07:47):
No?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
No, it isn't. No. And and what happened was the
Houston appointment to the US Senate seat caused a domino effect,
and that's when you saw people, you know, dropping out
and moving into different races. And it's a problem that
we Republicans have here in Ohio, and it's a problem
of too much success. The Democrats wish they would have
(08:12):
this problem where they have all these statewide officials who
have been elected statewide multiple times who need to go
into another office because they're being term limited. The Democrats
wish they had that problem. Thank god they don't. But no, Chuck,
let me assure you. Political parties are not that organized.
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