July 21, 2025 • 6 mins
GOP Analyst Terry Schilling weighs in on a number of topics including The Epstein Files
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Kila's jump over to the phone Legacy Retirement Group dot
com phone line. Say good morning to Terry Shilling, American
Principles Project dot org. Terry, how are you, sir?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Good morning boys, Thanks so much for having me back.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Glad you are back. A couple of things to run
down for with you this morning, starting with Tulsa Gabbard,
Director of National Intelligence, said this whole Trump Russia false
collusion narrative is She's going she wants blood on this.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Well, look, it looks like the Barack Obama administration was
heavily involved in fabricating the entire narrative around the Russia
collusion Huax and all of the Steele Dussier. It's really concerning.
And you know, I was watching clips this weekend about
this whole you know, debacle and what Gabbard's uncovered, and
(00:49):
they played this clip from Barack Obama when he was,
you know, elected in two thousand and eight, and he
says change has come to America, right, and you look
at all of the things that have change since he
was elected. By the end of his administration, we were
more divided on race, We didn't know which bathrooms to use,
and our kids were sailing out the door in every
(01:10):
public school across the country. It's really concerning and we
should get to the bottom of it.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I agree with you. I mean it's Barack Obama himself
has been named. James Clapper, then the Director of National Intelligence,
John Brennan, CIA, James Coney Comy, FBI, Susan Rice, she
was the National Security Advisor. And Attorney General Loretta Lynch
All mentioned in this saying this was all trumped up
and no pun intended, and they wanted to get his
(01:36):
first term. They wanted to make it as difficult as
possible after he won that election.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Well, and think about their plan and how deceitful it was.
Is the whole time they were trying to throw overthrow
democracy and undercut everything that we have here with our elections.
The whole time they were accusing Donald Trump of doing that.
And this is the pattern that we have gean time
and time again. Right, the Clinton's accused Donald Trump of
(02:05):
colluding with Russia and foreign governments when they had the
Clinton Foundation, which took in over a billion dollars from
foreign actors and foreign governments. Right, the Democrats are almost
always accusing Republicans of what they're doing but doing much worse.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
They can't. It's almost like they can't. They can't get
out of their own way when it comes to that
pattern too. Don't they recognize that they're accusing Republicans of
doing what they're actually doing. Doesn't that doesn't that land
with somebody somewhere and they think we might need to
change our strategy.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
A little bit. Yeah, well, look, it's it's like they
forget that the pendulum swings back the other way in
America because we still have free elections, we still have
freedom of speech, we still have a Second Amendment. But
I think that they they're they're pushing the limits, right.
I think that they've taken the country much further than
they took us. And you know, let's say under Bill
(02:58):
Clinton's regime, right, this is a much more politicized and
polarized politics. They keep dividing us further and further, and
the American people really need to start waking up to it.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah, Clinton looks like a looks like a conservative comparatively
now when you look back, when you look back on it,
speaking with Terry Shilling American Principles Project. The other one
is uh, Joe Biden's aides all pleading the fifth on
the uh to the extent of Joe's mental decline. And
the question is who was running the country, who was
(03:32):
acting as president between twenty twenty one and twenty twenty five.
We know Biden's doctor pled the fifth. It just screams like,
you start pleading the fifth. I don't know about you, Terry.
I start thinking guilty.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
No, that's that's exactly right. And and look at who
is pleading the fifth. It's it's the doctor, his doctor
who was assuring us all that Joe Biden was completely healthy,
there was nothing wrong. We all saw differently, right, we
saw it. And honestly, they laid into their own They
stepped in their own trap on that one with the
debate and letting him run again. But the other people
(04:06):
ron Klain, right, ron Klain is the guy that's being
accused of having been the one that masterminded the whole
auto pen pardons, right, Joe Biden. If you look at
how many pardons each president does before they leave office,
it's usually around, you know, fifteen hundred. I think Barack
Obama did something like two thousand. Joe Biden did like
(04:29):
forty two hundred before he took out a bof or
before he left office in his state. There's no way
that happened. This is a really bad situation that's happened,
and that's why they're cleaning the fifth.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, it's just and I don't know what else. I
think they're trying to get some more people to come
in and testify. And I don't know. It's if anything
happens because of this, you know, it's kind of the
same thing. I think it's important, but I don't know
if what happens because of it. It's much like the
Epstein situation. You know, I'm sure you've got some strong
(05:02):
opinions about this. If we know Epstein was a bad guy,
we know Maxwell was a bad guy. Anybody else involved
in this I think needs to face the music. We
know dozens of young gals were abused with Epstein and
his his you know, his private island and all this stuff.
But you know, do we need Is there a list
(05:24):
out there? Are there files? Are they going to unseal
these in the grand jury transcripts? I don't know, Terry,
because on my top five lists of reasons why I
voted for President Trump, that the Epstein case is not
on the list. And I think most people would probably
agree with that.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah, I think that's right. And I think, you know,
I think that that the American people agree with you that.
I think they agree with President Trump. They want justice.
I think that the bigger thing about the whole Epstein
debacle is we feel like there's the two tier justice
system in this country, right, And I think that that's
just so anti American. And so look, I'm fine with
(06:07):
whatever they have, right and this this is obviously a
guy that was very powerful. He had a lot of
join everyone. But you know, they might not even have
the stuff right now. They might have gotten all rid
of it. And keep in mind, the first time he
was indicted was in two thousand and seven, right, and
this is this is before Barack Obama was even elected president.
This is almost twenty years ago, so this is an
(06:29):
ongoing thing. They had plenty of time to cover up
the I think my prediction are you know, my read
into this is that they got too excited, they thought
they had something that they didn't and then they opened
up the door and it was an empty case. Just
like what you know, Geraldo Rivera. He did that too
much dirt on so many powerful people. I mean the
(06:51):
most powerful people is who he had dirt on. I mean,
those guys are going to clean up their mess. They
have the right connection
Kila's jump over to the phone Legacy Retirement Group dot
com phone line. Say good morning to Terry Shilling, American
Principles Project dot org. Terry, how are you, sir?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Good morning boys, Thanks so much for having me back.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Glad you are back. A couple of things to run
down for with you this morning, starting with Tulsa Gabbard,
Director of National Intelligence, said this whole Trump Russia false
collusion narrative is She's going she wants blood on this.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Well, look, it looks like the Barack Obama administration was
heavily involved in fabricating the entire narrative around the Russia
collusion Huax and all of the Steele Dussier. It's really concerning.
And you know, I was watching clips this weekend about
this whole you know, debacle and what Gabbard's uncovered, and
(00:49):
they played this clip from Barack Obama when he was,
you know, elected in two thousand and eight, and he
says change has come to America, right, and you look
at all of the things that have change since he
was elected. By the end of his administration, we were
more divided on race, We didn't know which bathrooms to use,
and our kids were sailing out the door in every
(01:10):
public school across the country. It's really concerning and we
should get to the bottom of it.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I agree with you. I mean it's Barack Obama himself
has been named. James Clapper, then the Director of National Intelligence,
John Brennan, CIA, James Coney Comy, FBI, Susan Rice, she
was the National Security Advisor. And Attorney General Loretta Lynch
All mentioned in this saying this was all trumped up
and no pun intended, and they wanted to get his
(01:36):
first term. They wanted to make it as difficult as
possible after he won that election.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Well, and think about their plan and how deceitful it was.
Is the whole time they were trying to throw overthrow
democracy and undercut everything that we have here with our elections.
The whole time they were accusing Donald Trump of doing that.
And this is the pattern that we have gean time
and time again. Right, the Clinton's accused Donald Trump of
(02:05):
colluding with Russia and foreign governments when they had the
Clinton Foundation, which took in over a billion dollars from
foreign actors and foreign governments. Right, the Democrats are almost
always accusing Republicans of what they're doing but doing much worse.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
They can't. It's almost like they can't. They can't get
out of their own way when it comes to that
pattern too. Don't they recognize that they're accusing Republicans of
doing what they're actually doing. Doesn't that doesn't that land
with somebody somewhere and they think we might need to
change our strategy.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
A little bit. Yeah, well, look, it's it's like they
forget that the pendulum swings back the other way in
America because we still have free elections, we still have
freedom of speech, we still have a Second Amendment. But
I think that they they're they're pushing the limits, right.
I think that they've taken the country much further than
they took us. And you know, let's say under Bill
(02:58):
Clinton's regime, right, this is a much more politicized and
polarized politics. They keep dividing us further and further, and
the American people really need to start waking up to it.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah, Clinton looks like a looks like a conservative comparatively
now when you look back, when you look back on it,
speaking with Terry Shilling American Principles Project. The other one
is uh, Joe Biden's aides all pleading the fifth on
the uh to the extent of Joe's mental decline. And
the question is who was running the country, who was
(03:32):
acting as president between twenty twenty one and twenty twenty five.
We know Biden's doctor pled the fifth. It just screams like,
you start pleading the fifth. I don't know about you, Terry.
I start thinking guilty.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
No, that's that's exactly right. And and look at who
is pleading the fifth. It's it's the doctor, his doctor
who was assuring us all that Joe Biden was completely healthy,
there was nothing wrong. We all saw differently, right, we
saw it. And honestly, they laid into their own They
stepped in their own trap on that one with the
debate and letting him run again. But the other people
(04:06):
ron Klain, right, ron Klain is the guy that's being
accused of having been the one that masterminded the whole
auto pen pardons, right, Joe Biden. If you look at
how many pardons each president does before they leave office,
it's usually around, you know, fifteen hundred. I think Barack
Obama did something like two thousand. Joe Biden did like
(04:29):
forty two hundred before he took out a bof or
before he left office in his state. There's no way
that happened. This is a really bad situation that's happened,
and that's why they're cleaning the fifth.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, it's just and I don't know what else. I
think they're trying to get some more people to come
in and testify. And I don't know. It's if anything
happens because of this, you know, it's kind of the
same thing. I think it's important, but I don't know
if what happens because of it. It's much like the
Epstein situation. You know, I'm sure you've got some strong
(05:02):
opinions about this. If we know Epstein was a bad guy,
we know Maxwell was a bad guy. Anybody else involved
in this I think needs to face the music. We
know dozens of young gals were abused with Epstein and
his his you know, his private island and all this stuff.
But you know, do we need Is there a list
(05:24):
out there? Are there files? Are they going to unseal
these in the grand jury transcripts? I don't know, Terry,
because on my top five lists of reasons why I
voted for President Trump, that the Epstein case is not
on the list. And I think most people would probably
agree with that.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah, I think that's right. And I think, you know,
I think that that the American people agree with you that.
I think they agree with President Trump. They want justice.
I think that the bigger thing about the whole Epstein
debacle is we feel like there's the two tier justice
system in this country, right, And I think that that's
just so anti American. And so look, I'm fine with
(06:07):
whatever they have, right and this this is obviously a
guy that was very powerful. He had a lot of
join everyone. But you know, they might not even have
the stuff right now. They might have gotten all rid
of it. And keep in mind, the first time he
was indicted was in two thousand and seven, right, and
this is this is before Barack Obama was even elected president.
This is almost twenty years ago, so this is an
(06:29):
ongoing thing. They had plenty of time to cover up
the I think my prediction are you know, my read
into this is that they got too excited, they thought
they had something that they didn't and then they opened
up the door and it was an empty case. Just
like what you know, Geraldo Rivera. He did that too
much dirt on so many powerful people. I mean the
(06:51):
most powerful people is who he had dirt on. I mean,
those guys are going to clean up their mess. They
have the right connection
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