October 25, 2024 • 9 mins
Steve Helwagen of 24/7 Sports breaks down Saturday's game between Ohio State and Nebraska. Both teams looking to get back on track after tough losses
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Quick note from Mark in Arlington. He said, what about Meisters?
Have you ever had Meister's pizza on It's on Chambers Road.
I think it's technically Columbus, but it's like Arlington Grand View.
I have not. It is it's a it's a it's
a dive bar. They make a really really good deep dish.
I don't know if it's Chicago, so they term it
Chicago style. It takes like forty five minutes to make.
(00:23):
If it doesn't matter if it's a dive bar. They
make great pizza. I'm already in. I've had Meisters before
and it is unbelievable. Oh man, it is so good.
You can only have like a piece maybe too. It's
just it's that thick.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Does that have the charred bottom too? I mean, is
it no flop kind of thick?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Well, it's thick. It's it's knife and fork kind of
a kind of a pie, sausages on top, and it's uh,
it is fantastic for the show. I'm here, and you
won't need to eat for a week after you have that.
That's right, Yeah, absolutely, so thanks for the tip. Mark
in Arlington. Meisterre's pizza might be the call tonight. Absolutely
all right, We've got a game tomorrow Saturday noon at
(01:00):
the Shoe, gonna be on Fox Big Noon kickoff, and
here to break it down from twenty four to seven Sports,
Steve hell Wagon, Steven, how are you this morning, sir?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I'm doing great. You guys are making me hungry at
seven thirteen in the morning, I'm gonna have to run
out and get some pizza for lunch.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
What where's your go to? Where's your go to pizza?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
You know I used to work in Greenview. I would
go to Tommy's, you know, on Lane, and I know
they closed the one on campus. Rotlos is another one
on them that was really good when I worked in Greenview. Two.
So yeah, there's there's a pizza joint on every corner
in this town, so you don't have to don't have
to go too far to find.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
It, no, sir, And yeah, Rotlos is a great It's
a great that's right down from the radio station here too.
We if we have pizza here, we'll often zip up
to Rotlos and grab a couple of pies there. So
now I got a decision to make. Man, you got me,
You got me second guessing, all right? Steve so I
would imagine the Buckeyes are very hungry as well well
to get back on the field and get the bad
(02:02):
taste of the Oregon loss out of their mouths and
stick it to Nebraska tomorrow at noon.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
No question about it, Mike. And here's the thing, this loss.
It really feels from talking to Ryan Day twice this
week Tuesday and Wednesday, that it really weighed on him
and has really weighed on him for the last almost
two weeks now. And I think that the players understand
that their margin for error is gone. All their goals
(02:30):
are still in play. They can still make the Big
Ten championship game. Obviously, beat Michigan's one of their goals
and that's out there, but you know, and then get
to the playoff, it's all still out there and they've
just but there. You know, they've almost have to win
out at this point to assure themselves of making the playoffs.
So yeah, you know, you look at it. Nebraska coming
(02:53):
off a tough one fifty six to seven. They kind
of got exposed last week at Indiana. But Ryan Dale
likes to say it's about us, and that's never been
any any more true than tomorrow. They've got to come
out and put their best foot forward at the shoe.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Well, let's talk about Nebraska for a second, Steve. The
beginning of the season, you know, we were kind of
looking at them going, you know, they might have a
little bit of a turnaround year here. They've got a
at the time, it was a pretty decent looking quarterback
in Dylan Reola. They got exposed, as you said, last
week against Indiana. I would think they're also pretty eager
(03:32):
to get back on the field despite you know, coming
up against a really tough opponent in Ohio State. But
they've got some stuff that they probably want to prove
tomorrow as well.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Definitely, And Matt Rules in his second year as the
coach at Nebraska. He did a really good job previously
at Baylor kind of bringing that program back from the
scandals that they had and the Brills era, and so
I think he's going to be the guy that gets
Nebraska football back on the map. This is hard to contemplate,
(04:02):
you know, you think about the great tradition that they've had.
They haven't played in a bowl game since twenty sixteen,
and so if they win tomorrow or next week against UCLA,
they will finally be boiligible for the first time in
eight years, so that's a breakthrough for them. Rayola is
a kid who was the number two quarterback prospect in
(04:24):
the country this year as twenty twenty four class committed
to Ohio State two years ago, then committed to Georgia,
moved his family to Georgia to play at a high
school with other Georgia prospects, and then switched to Nebraska.
So kind of the crazy world that we're living in now,
the transient world of you know, he was transferred portal
(04:44):
before he even got to college. But he had rough
one last week baptism by fire. Three interceptions in that
game at Indiana, and he's going from playing in front
of fifty three thousand people at Indiana last week to
double that tomorrow at the Shoes. So good luck you man.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Say about that real quick. I want to get your
thoughts on Indiana before we move on and talk about
the Buckeyes Nebraska. I mean again, that team. I don't
know who they've faced necessarily as far as anybody of
any high skill level, but man, they look like world
beaters right now.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
No doubt in the new coach Kurt Signette. He came
in and he just cleaned house and brought his people
with him. And he is a very hardcore football coach.
And you listen to his interviews and he doesn't care,
you know, what anybody thinks. And it's going to brought
the fresh air to see Indiana seven and zero. They're
gonna if if they beat Washington, and they're favored this
(05:43):
week at home to beat Washington, which kind of struggled,
they would match the greatest start to a season in
Indiana history back to nineteen sixty seven, when they believe
it or not, they did play in a Rose Bowl
in the nineteen sixty seventh season, So they would match
an eight to no start start in the school history
where a winning they're coming to the Shoe. It's very
(06:03):
well possible they could be ten and oer when they
come to Columbus on November the twenty third. So people
are pointing to the Big Wood in November's Michigan.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
It may be indeed, that's wild.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
You know Stee. Two weeks ago, you know, coming out
of the Oregon game, former Ohio State defensive lineman Matt
Sinks sent a post saying that Ohio State needs to
come out with some more creative defensive packages that it
seems too vanilla. Do you agree with that statement. Do
you see that Jim Knowles and this Ohio State group
coming out with a little more of aggressive nature on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Well, I took a vacation last week after the Oregon game.
There was no game last week, so I went to
Phoenix side. Have not really sat down and studied the
Oregon game like a lot of other people possibly have,
but I watched the game through binoculars, and when they
bring a blitz, it very rarely gets to the quarterback.
And those times they're bringing a safety or a corner
(07:03):
from twenty yards off the ball, and they just struggle
getting to the quarterback. And Dylan Gabriel you just kind
of have to kip your cap to him. He was
phenomenal in that game, obviously, the way he was very
flippery and then eventually kept the ball in that last
run that he had for a touchdown. So you have
to give Oregon a lot of credit, but Ohio State's
(07:25):
got to play much better. This was a throwback to
the twenty twenty two Michigan game where they had all
those big chunk plays. You know, Oregon had eight plays
of twenty five yards or longer. That can't happen. I
could see giving up one or two, but eight that pause.
You're not going to win any games doing that. And
the offense and Will Howard did everything they could to
(07:49):
keep Ohio State in. He moved him down the field
in the two minute drill, had him in position to
win the game, and it just didn't work out. So yeah,
defense got to play, you know, much better pressure from
the defensive line, run support from the linebackers, better coverages
in the secondary. That's what you're looking for on Saturday,
it gets Nebraska.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Steve Hallawagen twenty four to seven Sports Steve, I would
be remiss if I did not bring up the Browns.
I know you're a fan and the Jane. I'm not
trying to push the bruise man, I seriously, I'm not.
But the Jamis Winston era has begun in Cleveland. How
many quarterbacks is that for them?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Now? I saw the thing on Twitter. It's up to
like thirty eight in whatever it'd be twenty twenty five
years and it's you know, you think about some of
the names, you know, Kelly Holcombe and Spurgeon win and
you know, Deshaun Kaiser and Brady Quinn and Cole McCoy
and you know all these other guys. Baker, maybe Yield,
(08:46):
Johnny Manzil, we consider all Day and Tip Away. It
all began way back with Tim Coutch, you know, way
way back. But you know, it's just never worked out
in Cleveland. It's unfortunate. And you know, I grew up
a Browns fan, but I've kind of decided they're hard
to watch. My Sundays. As long as this this Indian
(09:07):
summer holds up and the weather is nice, I'm going
to be out playing golf on Sunday afternoons because this
is it's painful to try and sit through a brown
scheme
Quick note from Mark in Arlington. He said, what about Meisters?
Have you ever had Meister's pizza on It's on Chambers Road.
I think it's technically Columbus, but it's like Arlington Grand View.
I have not. It is it's a it's a it's
a dive bar. They make a really really good deep dish.
I don't know if it's Chicago, so they term it
Chicago style. It takes like forty five minutes to make.
(00:23):
If it doesn't matter if it's a dive bar. They
make great pizza. I'm already in. I've had Meisters before
and it is unbelievable. Oh man, it is so good.
You can only have like a piece maybe too. It's
just it's that thick.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Does that have the charred bottom too? I mean, is
it no flop kind of thick?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Well, it's thick. It's it's knife and fork kind of
a kind of a pie, sausages on top, and it's uh,
it is fantastic for the show. I'm here, and you
won't need to eat for a week after you have that.
That's right, Yeah, absolutely, so thanks for the tip. Mark
in Arlington. Meisterre's pizza might be the call tonight. Absolutely
all right, We've got a game tomorrow Saturday noon at
(01:00):
the Shoe, gonna be on Fox Big Noon kickoff, and
here to break it down from twenty four to seven Sports,
Steve hell Wagon, Steven, how are you this morning, sir?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I'm doing great. You guys are making me hungry at
seven thirteen in the morning, I'm gonna have to run
out and get some pizza for lunch.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
What where's your go to? Where's your go to pizza?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
You know I used to work in Greenview. I would
go to Tommy's, you know, on Lane, and I know
they closed the one on campus. Rotlos is another one
on them that was really good when I worked in Greenview. Two.
So yeah, there's there's a pizza joint on every corner
in this town, so you don't have to don't have
to go too far to find.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
It, no, sir, And yeah, Rotlos is a great It's
a great that's right down from the radio station here too.
We if we have pizza here, we'll often zip up
to Rotlos and grab a couple of pies there. So
now I got a decision to make. Man, you got me,
You got me second guessing, all right? Steve so I
would imagine the Buckeyes are very hungry as well well
to get back on the field and get the bad
(02:02):
taste of the Oregon loss out of their mouths and
stick it to Nebraska tomorrow at noon.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
No question about it, Mike. And here's the thing, this loss.
It really feels from talking to Ryan Day twice this
week Tuesday and Wednesday, that it really weighed on him
and has really weighed on him for the last almost
two weeks now. And I think that the players understand
that their margin for error is gone. All their goals
(02:30):
are still in play. They can still make the Big
Ten championship game. Obviously, beat Michigan's one of their goals
and that's out there, but you know, and then get
to the playoff, it's all still out there and they've
just but there. You know, they've almost have to win
out at this point to assure themselves of making the playoffs.
So yeah, you know, you look at it. Nebraska coming
(02:53):
off a tough one fifty six to seven. They kind
of got exposed last week at Indiana. But Ryan Dale
likes to say it's about us, and that's never been
any any more true than tomorrow. They've got to come
out and put their best foot forward at the shoe.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Well, let's talk about Nebraska for a second, Steve. The
beginning of the season, you know, we were kind of
looking at them going, you know, they might have a
little bit of a turnaround year here. They've got a
at the time, it was a pretty decent looking quarterback
in Dylan Reola. They got exposed, as you said, last
week against Indiana. I would think they're also pretty eager
(03:32):
to get back on the field despite you know, coming
up against a really tough opponent in Ohio State. But
they've got some stuff that they probably want to prove
tomorrow as well.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Definitely, And Matt Rules in his second year as the
coach at Nebraska. He did a really good job previously
at Baylor kind of bringing that program back from the
scandals that they had and the Brills era, and so
I think he's going to be the guy that gets
Nebraska football back on the map. This is hard to contemplate,
(04:02):
you know, you think about the great tradition that they've had.
They haven't played in a bowl game since twenty sixteen,
and so if they win tomorrow or next week against UCLA,
they will finally be boiligible for the first time in
eight years, so that's a breakthrough for them. Rayola is
a kid who was the number two quarterback prospect in
(04:24):
the country this year as twenty twenty four class committed
to Ohio State two years ago, then committed to Georgia,
moved his family to Georgia to play at a high
school with other Georgia prospects, and then switched to Nebraska.
So kind of the crazy world that we're living in now,
the transient world of you know, he was transferred portal
(04:44):
before he even got to college. But he had rough
one last week baptism by fire. Three interceptions in that
game at Indiana, and he's going from playing in front
of fifty three thousand people at Indiana last week to
double that tomorrow at the Shoes. So good luck you man.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Say about that real quick. I want to get your
thoughts on Indiana before we move on and talk about
the Buckeyes Nebraska. I mean again, that team. I don't
know who they've faced necessarily as far as anybody of
any high skill level, but man, they look like world
beaters right now.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
No doubt in the new coach Kurt Signette. He came
in and he just cleaned house and brought his people
with him. And he is a very hardcore football coach.
And you listen to his interviews and he doesn't care,
you know, what anybody thinks. And it's going to brought
the fresh air to see Indiana seven and zero. They're
gonna if if they beat Washington, and they're favored this
(05:43):
week at home to beat Washington, which kind of struggled,
they would match the greatest start to a season in
Indiana history back to nineteen sixty seven, when they believe
it or not, they did play in a Rose Bowl
in the nineteen sixty seventh season, So they would match
an eight to no start start in the school history
where a winning they're coming to the Shoe. It's very
(06:03):
well possible they could be ten and oer when they
come to Columbus on November the twenty third. So people
are pointing to the Big Wood in November's Michigan.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
It may be indeed, that's wild.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
You know Stee. Two weeks ago, you know, coming out
of the Oregon game, former Ohio State defensive lineman Matt
Sinks sent a post saying that Ohio State needs to
come out with some more creative defensive packages that it
seems too vanilla. Do you agree with that statement. Do
you see that Jim Knowles and this Ohio State group
coming out with a little more of aggressive nature on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Well, I took a vacation last week after the Oregon game.
There was no game last week, so I went to
Phoenix side. Have not really sat down and studied the
Oregon game like a lot of other people possibly have,
but I watched the game through binoculars, and when they
bring a blitz, it very rarely gets to the quarterback.
And those times they're bringing a safety or a corner
(07:03):
from twenty yards off the ball, and they just struggle
getting to the quarterback. And Dylan Gabriel you just kind
of have to kip your cap to him. He was
phenomenal in that game, obviously, the way he was very
flippery and then eventually kept the ball in that last
run that he had for a touchdown. So you have
to give Oregon a lot of credit, but Ohio State's
(07:25):
got to play much better. This was a throwback to
the twenty twenty two Michigan game where they had all
those big chunk plays. You know, Oregon had eight plays
of twenty five yards or longer. That can't happen. I
could see giving up one or two, but eight that pause.
You're not going to win any games doing that. And
the offense and Will Howard did everything they could to
(07:49):
keep Ohio State in. He moved him down the field
in the two minute drill, had him in position to
win the game, and it just didn't work out. So yeah,
defense got to play, you know, much better pressure from
the defensive line, run support from the linebackers, better coverages
in the secondary. That's what you're looking for on Saturday,
it gets Nebraska.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Steve Hallawagen twenty four to seven Sports Steve, I would
be remiss if I did not bring up the Browns.
I know you're a fan and the Jane. I'm not
trying to push the bruise man, I seriously, I'm not.
But the Jamis Winston era has begun in Cleveland. How
many quarterbacks is that for them?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Now? I saw the thing on Twitter. It's up to
like thirty eight in whatever it'd be twenty twenty five
years and it's you know, you think about some of
the names, you know, Kelly Holcombe and Spurgeon win and
you know, Deshaun Kaiser and Brady Quinn and Cole McCoy
and you know all these other guys. Baker, maybe Yield,
(08:46):
Johnny Manzil, we consider all Day and Tip Away. It
all began way back with Tim Coutch, you know, way
way back. But you know, it's just never worked out
in Cleveland. It's unfortunate. And you know, I grew up
a Browns fan, but I've kind of decided they're hard
to watch. My Sundays. As long as this this Indian
(09:07):
summer holds up and the weather is nice, I'm going
to be out playing golf on Sunday afternoons because this
is it's painful to try and sit through a brown
scheme
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