December 1, 2025 • 8 mins
BBC Analyst Jeff Logan breaks down Ohio State's dominant win over TTUN and takes a look at Saturday's matchup
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ten minutes after eight o'clock Monday morning, and we are
post Michigan, Ohio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
State and a big win for the Buckeyes and an arbor.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Let's go to Jeff Logan of a legacy retirement group
dot com phone line, Jeff of course in Ohio State
Hall of Famer, part of our best Buckeye coverage, Jeff.
Outside of the first about five minutes of that game,
it pretty much went according to plan in my view,
how about you?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Yeah, it really did. And good morning to you guys
in happy December. I guess. And Mike, one correction that
I've got to make. You know, eating a turkey sandwich
on Saturday as leftovers after Thanksgiving is not necessarily the
best thing that you can do on that Saturday.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
The best thing that you can do is beat the
team up north.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Okay, you know what. Fair enough? Fair enough with a
side of leftover turkey.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Add I agree. But you know, the six to zero
deficit that Ohio State was down early in that football
game was the biggest deficit that Ohio State has had
all season long. And so you know, have they faced adversity? Yeah,
I guess they did, and they answered the bell pretty well, and.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
After that, I mean, they just dominated in all phases
of the game, Jeff, I mean Julian's saying with all
the discussion of him and being a California kid and
not being able to play in cold weather, I mean
outside of that pick on his second snap of the game,
I mean three touchdown passes, I mean, did they just
they looked calm and cool And again, there really isn't
(01:27):
anything to complain about.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
No, I don't think there is. You know, you got
to feel really good about what you saw on Saturday,
how the team stayed together after the adversity at the
beginning of the football game, and how well they ran
the ball. You know, Michigan coming into the game, the
biggest threat was them being able to control the football
for long periods of time with their running game. And
(01:49):
Bryce Underwood was was a non entity during the game.
You know, he was not allowed out of the pocket.
He wanted no part of running the football against Ohio
State and Mike a team that really doesn't excel in
time of possession. Ohio State doesn't care that much about it,
but they had the ball forty minutes compared to only
(02:10):
twenty minutes for Michigan. Throughout the entire game, seventy three
offensive plays compared to only forty for the team up north.
That is total domination in that game, and it sure
feels a whole lot better than it had for the
last four years.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah, no doubt, first time in five years Ohio State
will be playing in the Big Ten championship game.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
We'll get to that in a second.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah, Michigan's d just couldn't get off the field in
the second half. I mean, they didn't see the end
zone all game, They didn't score in the second half.
I mean, that's these adjustments that not only at halftime, Jeff,
with the adjustments, but the little in game adjustments. I
don't know if I've seen a college football team do
this better than Ohio State this year.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
You know, it's pretty impressive if you look at the
way that Michigan started the game with two really good
running plays early in the game, and Matt Patricia made
some adjustments right then, I mean, all of a sudden,
it went to zero as far as their ability to
run the football. So I give the Ohio State offensive
coaches a lot of credit, defensive coaches a lot of
(03:13):
credit for number one having a good game. Plan, but
number two being able to adjust during the game.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Jeff, you and I were talking a little bit off
the air, and you just brought it up a little
bit ago. Ohio State is so deliberate in their approach
that it's like Novacan. I mean, you start to feel numb,
and before you know it, you're down eighteen points to
Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
And it's what they do.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Time of possession defense stays rested because they get a
three and out or maybe a two series. And I'm
wondering does that approach stay consistent for Indiana. This is
an explosive, high scoring offense that they're averaging about forty
five points per game. Can you afford to do that
or do you have to maybe try quick strikes to
(03:56):
not let Indiana get ahead of you?
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Well, I think both teams camp, but you bring up
a good point, are gonna gonna win? Going to want
to win that time of possession battle? And neither of
these two teams are one handed, meaning that there's balance
between running and passing. Uh And if you start looking
at the NCAA statistics after now twelve weeks of football,
(04:20):
Indiana and Ohio State are almost identical in all of
their statistics across the board. These are by far the
two best teams in America playing football today in college football,
and I got it. I gotta tell you it's going
to be one whale of a game a Saturday against Indiana,
and my guests would be that this won't be the
(04:42):
last time that we see Ohio State in Indiana play
this season.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
That would be wild.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
We've talked about that for well the last couple of
years since this new format's been in place, Jeff. But
in Indianapolis, Buckeys are favored by five and a half
over the Hoosiers. Two of the best college footballquarterbacks going
at it in Saying and Mendoza. And you know, all
the speculation is, whoever wins this game, well that quarterback
will win the Heisman Trophy.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Do that Do you agree with that?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I tend to agree. I thought for Julian Saying to
be in the hunt for the Heisman Trophy, number one,
he had to win the game against the team up north.
Mission accomplished three touchdown passes. He was near perfect in
that game. And now you go head to head with
the other guy that is very well deserving, Fernando Mendoza,
the quarterback at Indiana. Who's a transfer from cal and
(05:32):
you know, here's a guy that has been spectacular all
season long, and so there's going to be a whole
lot of debate, you know, after this game as to
who the best player in America is and if Julian
Saying wants it get a w against Indiana.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Jeff, your thoughts on the two controversial plays from Saturday.
The Jeremiah Smith touchdown where he kind of bobbled it
into the end zone.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
They took a long, hard look on that.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
I think they got the hall right there, despite what
the Fox, the Fox rules analyst Mike Praira said. And
then the head butt, which I think was the bigger
the bigger situation there that kid headbuts a referee and
they don't they don't throw them out of the game.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
That was kind of shocking to me.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yeah, it's interesting in digging deep into the rule.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Book on that.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
It really comes down to a judgment call from the
official as to if it was accidental or it was intentional.
And I thought that the officials were very soft on
that one. But the other one, I think, realistically, guys,
here's what's important to understand. After he caught the ball
(06:47):
and continued on in a football play, meaning that he
had taken a step or two. He now is no
longer a receiver. He becomes a rusher. He is running
the football, and the second that that football crosses the plane,
that the play is over. So his bobbling the ball
after he had crossed the plane means absolutely nothing. You
(07:10):
have to take away the fact that he is no
longer a receiver, he's a rusher. And I think they
got the call one absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
So if he caught the ball closer to the end
zone where he was actually crossing the end zone as
he was making the catch and was bobbling it, that
that's more of a questionable play.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
The questionable play is what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yeah, different story altogether, because you have to possess the
ball and make it what they call a football move. Well,
he had a couple of steps catching the football and
he became a runner at that stage, Mike. And so
again it comes down to that that nanosecond when you
cross the plane and he had control at that time.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
What should we be looking for Saturday night, eight o'clock,
A Big ten championship game.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Boy, two great football teams that you know, it's kind
of interesting because the outcome of this game, I believe,
is not as critically important as a lot of people
would would normally think about the Big Ten Championship because
regardless of who wins or loses, both of these teams,
in my opinion, are going to be a top four seed.
Unless you have a blowout. You know, somebody wins sixty
(08:17):
to nothing, I think you're going to have a top
four seed regardless of the outcome. So is this game
critically important? You know, if you don't have one of
those trophies, if you don't have that ring, if you
don't have that championship, you know it means something. And
so I think that all of our players will want
to play in this game, and I think they'll give
one hundred percent effort on both sides of the ball,
(08:38):
whether you're cheering for Indiana or you're cheering for Ohio State.
But how weird is it to be at this point
in the season and be talking about Ohio State Indiana
and have it not be a basketball game.
Ten minutes after eight o'clock Monday morning, and we are
post Michigan, Ohio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
State and a big win for the Buckeyes and an arbor.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Let's go to Jeff Logan of a legacy retirement group
dot com phone line, Jeff of course in Ohio State
Hall of Famer, part of our best Buckeye coverage, Jeff.
Outside of the first about five minutes of that game,
it pretty much went according to plan in my view,
how about you?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Yeah, it really did. And good morning to you guys
in happy December. I guess. And Mike, one correction that
I've got to make. You know, eating a turkey sandwich
on Saturday as leftovers after Thanksgiving is not necessarily the
best thing that you can do on that Saturday.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
The best thing that you can do is beat the
team up north.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Okay, you know what. Fair enough? Fair enough with a
side of leftover turkey.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Add I agree. But you know, the six to zero
deficit that Ohio State was down early in that football
game was the biggest deficit that Ohio State has had
all season long. And so you know, have they faced adversity? Yeah,
I guess they did, and they answered the bell pretty well, and.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
After that, I mean, they just dominated in all phases
of the game, Jeff, I mean Julian's saying with all
the discussion of him and being a California kid and
not being able to play in cold weather, I mean
outside of that pick on his second snap of the game,
I mean three touchdown passes, I mean, did they just
they looked calm and cool And again, there really isn't
(01:27):
anything to complain about.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
No, I don't think there is. You know, you got
to feel really good about what you saw on Saturday,
how the team stayed together after the adversity at the
beginning of the football game, and how well they ran
the ball. You know, Michigan coming into the game, the
biggest threat was them being able to control the football
for long periods of time with their running game. And
(01:49):
Bryce Underwood was was a non entity during the game.
You know, he was not allowed out of the pocket.
He wanted no part of running the football against Ohio
State and Mike a team that really doesn't excel in
time of possession. Ohio State doesn't care that much about it,
but they had the ball forty minutes compared to only
(02:10):
twenty minutes for Michigan. Throughout the entire game, seventy three
offensive plays compared to only forty for the team up north.
That is total domination in that game, and it sure
feels a whole lot better than it had for the
last four years.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah, no doubt, first time in five years Ohio State
will be playing in the Big Ten championship game.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
We'll get to that in a second.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah, Michigan's d just couldn't get off the field in
the second half. I mean, they didn't see the end
zone all game, They didn't score in the second half.
I mean, that's these adjustments that not only at halftime, Jeff,
with the adjustments, but the little in game adjustments. I
don't know if I've seen a college football team do
this better than Ohio State this year.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
You know, it's pretty impressive if you look at the
way that Michigan started the game with two really good
running plays early in the game, and Matt Patricia made
some adjustments right then, I mean, all of a sudden,
it went to zero as far as their ability to
run the football. So I give the Ohio State offensive
coaches a lot of credit, defensive coaches a lot of
(03:13):
credit for number one having a good game. Plan, but
number two being able to adjust during the game.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Jeff, you and I were talking a little bit off
the air, and you just brought it up a little
bit ago. Ohio State is so deliberate in their approach
that it's like Novacan. I mean, you start to feel numb,
and before you know it, you're down eighteen points to
Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
And it's what they do.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Time of possession defense stays rested because they get a
three and out or maybe a two series. And I'm
wondering does that approach stay consistent for Indiana. This is
an explosive, high scoring offense that they're averaging about forty
five points per game. Can you afford to do that
or do you have to maybe try quick strikes to
(03:56):
not let Indiana get ahead of you?
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Well, I think both teams camp, but you bring up
a good point, are gonna gonna win? Going to want
to win that time of possession battle? And neither of
these two teams are one handed, meaning that there's balance
between running and passing. Uh And if you start looking
at the NCAA statistics after now twelve weeks of football,
(04:20):
Indiana and Ohio State are almost identical in all of
their statistics across the board. These are by far the
two best teams in America playing football today in college football,
and I got it. I gotta tell you it's going
to be one whale of a game a Saturday against Indiana,
and my guests would be that this won't be the
(04:42):
last time that we see Ohio State in Indiana play
this season.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
That would be wild.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
We've talked about that for well the last couple of
years since this new format's been in place, Jeff. But
in Indianapolis, Buckeys are favored by five and a half
over the Hoosiers. Two of the best college footballquarterbacks going
at it in Saying and Mendoza. And you know, all
the speculation is, whoever wins this game, well that quarterback
will win the Heisman Trophy.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Do that Do you agree with that?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I tend to agree. I thought for Julian Saying to
be in the hunt for the Heisman Trophy, number one,
he had to win the game against the team up north.
Mission accomplished three touchdown passes. He was near perfect in
that game. And now you go head to head with
the other guy that is very well deserving, Fernando Mendoza,
the quarterback at Indiana. Who's a transfer from cal and
(05:32):
you know, here's a guy that has been spectacular all
season long, and so there's going to be a whole
lot of debate, you know, after this game as to
who the best player in America is and if Julian
Saying wants it get a w against Indiana.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Jeff, your thoughts on the two controversial plays from Saturday.
The Jeremiah Smith touchdown where he kind of bobbled it
into the end zone.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
They took a long, hard look on that.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
I think they got the hall right there, despite what
the Fox, the Fox rules analyst Mike Praira said. And
then the head butt, which I think was the bigger
the bigger situation there that kid headbuts a referee and
they don't they don't throw them out of the game.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
That was kind of shocking to me.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yeah, it's interesting in digging deep into the rule.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Book on that.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
It really comes down to a judgment call from the
official as to if it was accidental or it was intentional.
And I thought that the officials were very soft on
that one. But the other one, I think, realistically, guys,
here's what's important to understand. After he caught the ball
(06:47):
and continued on in a football play, meaning that he
had taken a step or two. He now is no
longer a receiver. He becomes a rusher. He is running
the football, and the second that that football crosses the plane,
that the play is over. So his bobbling the ball
after he had crossed the plane means absolutely nothing. You
(07:10):
have to take away the fact that he is no
longer a receiver, he's a rusher. And I think they
got the call one absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
So if he caught the ball closer to the end
zone where he was actually crossing the end zone as
he was making the catch and was bobbling it, that
that's more of a questionable play.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
The questionable play is what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yeah, different story altogether, because you have to possess the
ball and make it what they call a football move. Well,
he had a couple of steps catching the football and
he became a runner at that stage, Mike. And so
again it comes down to that that nanosecond when you
cross the plane and he had control at that time.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
What should we be looking for Saturday night, eight o'clock,
A Big ten championship game.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Boy, two great football teams that you know, it's kind
of interesting because the outcome of this game, I believe,
is not as critically important as a lot of people
would would normally think about the Big Ten Championship because
regardless of who wins or loses, both of these teams,
in my opinion, are going to be a top four seed.
Unless you have a blowout. You know, somebody wins sixty
(08:17):
to nothing, I think you're going to have a top
four seed regardless of the outcome. So is this game
critically important? You know, if you don't have one of
those trophies, if you don't have that ring, if you
don't have that championship, you know it means something. And
so I think that all of our players will want
to play in this game, and I think they'll give
one hundred percent effort on both sides of the ball,
(08:38):
whether you're cheering for Indiana or you're cheering for Ohio State.
But how weird is it to be at this point
in the season and be talking about Ohio State Indiana
and have it not be a basketball game.
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