September 30, 2025 • 10 mins
Aviation Expert Jay Ratliff has the latest travel news including Boeing lands an impressive order from Turkish Airlines & Norwegian Air
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And my Legacy Retirement Group dot com phone line. He
(00:02):
is our aviation experts, airplanes, airlines, airline travel. If it's involved,
he's got it for us. Jayratlift atjratlift dot com. Jay,
Good morning boy. I saw this story pop up, one
of these grizzly situations where a stowaway was found dead
inside landing gear of an American Airlines flight. What's the story there?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yes, what the second time in a week we've been
talking about a stowaway. First one was somebody in Afghanistan
jumped on a flight thinking they were going to Rand.
They ended up in New Delhi and that thirteen year
old survived that ninety four minute flight and was sent
back to the country he came from. And now we
have a maintenance crew in Charlotte that just a routine
(00:47):
aircraft inspection finds the remains of someone that tried to
stow away in a wheelwel of an aircraft coming over
from Europe and the person sadly died. Of of course,
the landing compartment of these airplanes, depending on which type
of aircraft, not a whole lot of room, so you
always run the risk of being crushed to death. Then
(01:08):
if that doesn't happen, you could freeze to death. And
if that doesn't happen, you could run out of oxygen. So,
because when you're talking about or thirty five thousand feet,
you're talking about fifty degrees below zero, there's very little,
if any oxygen, and there's all kinds of problems that
set in, which is why eighty percent of the people
that have tried this over the years typically die in
(01:28):
the process. So they was just a gruesome discovery and obviously,
you know, your heart breaks for whoever it was that
decided to try to do this, putting their life in jeopardy.
But my very second follow up thought is where's the
security at the airport where this airplane originated from? If
you've got someone that can either a stroll across the
(01:50):
tarmac jump into an aircraft and nobody on the ground
see them, or if the airplane is by itself at
the end of a runway preparing to take off, holding
for just a minute where somebody could approach it from
behind unseen because there's no other airplanes around, where's the
security Because had this been a terrorist who is going
to put a bomb on the airplane? Oh boy, yeah,
(02:12):
obviously they could have done it and walked right away.
So you know, every time we've and we've had this
happen in the United States where we've had stowways from
various US airports, so it just screams to me that
we need to be doing a far better job of
not only spending billions of dollars in security inside the airport.
(02:32):
I get that we need to, but these airplanes that
remained overnight at four hundred and some airports across the country,
just here in the United States, We've got to do
a better job. And I've almost gone horse screaming about
this over the decades, because you just can't ignore that. Now.
We have certainly improved our security measures a lot I
(02:53):
can't talk about as far as airport grounds, but I
think there's so much more, so much more we can
do that we're not And if you talk to my
friends at the FAA, they're gonna say, well, Jay, that's
not our concern right now. We're worried about blah blah blah.
They're always trying to prevent the last attack, right really
trying to say how could we maybe prevent a future one?
(03:15):
And that's why they you know, only a handful of
airports in the country screen their employees. They go from
the parking lot, employee parking a lot to the tarmac.
It's random, they always and you know that to me
is just it's a disaster waiting to happen, because you
have a million people a month touching airplanes that have
been screened that before the shift. And when you have
(03:38):
that plus this lack of security that allows these stolways
to jump on board an airplane, I'm sorry, that is
a huge red flag to me, and something's got.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
To get done, no doubt, security huge issue. I wouldn't
even know how to go about getting to the tarmac.
I mean, I guess, like you said, using the employee
parking lot and you know, sneaking through some sort of
a checkpoint there. But what is in these people's heads
thinking that they're going to survive this trip? As you say,
it's incredibly cold, there's no oxygen, you could get crushed
(04:08):
by the landing gear. It just it doesn't seem like
your odds are in your favor.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
It's not. And it's just over the years have been
some of the horrific stories of people that they look
at it as an adventure. They put on the goggles,
a little ret the red scarf. They think they're just
gonna gonna fly, and then something just horrific happens. And
what prevents them from gaining access to the tarmac is
that great, big six to eight foot fence with that
(04:34):
very imposing do not trespass sign. I mean, if that
doesn't keep you, you know, you should put that in
front of your house and just watch criminals fulle and tear,
because that's going to do it. Sadly, that's obviously not
the case. But when you hear a story last week
of a thirteen year old doing it and surviving, perhaps
I don't know this for sure, maybe that news made
(04:57):
somebody think it can be done. If he did it,
I can. You know, that's a ninety four minute flight.
You are at the cruising altitude for a minimum amount
of time. Most of that time it's spent cruising up
and then cruising down. You have some radiant heat that
comes off of that landing gear when it's retracted. That
lasts for just moments, but it is some heat inside
(05:20):
that area. But when you're talking about a flight from
Europe into Charlotte, it's eight to ten hours. I'm sorry,
the way, there's no way you're going to survive that,
and we it's breakfast. I've got to be careful. But
you know, we've had situations with airplanes coming into New
York they drop the landing gear and things fall out.
It's because people don't survive that, and it's just it's
(05:45):
such a sad, sad situation and we're never going to
totally prevent it. But when I see repeat occurrences, I'm
thinking there's a security issue. There's a security issue, and yes,
we will look into it, Yes we will take what
precautions we can. But you know, it reminds me the
conversations I had with airlines and people within the FAA
and Department Transportation pre nine to eleven when we were
(06:07):
not screening check bags, and I said, that is such
a huge issue in security because people think that domestic
bags are screened. They're not. They went from the ticket
counter to the tug to the airplane. We didn't screen
hardly any bag. You give me fifty terrorists across the
country that put bombs and bags check on the planes
(06:28):
and either board or don't. There's a chance to sit.
The airplanes conve have been blown out of the sky.
So anytime pre nine to eleven and an airplane went down,
we were holding a breath, thinking, are we about to
have twenty or thirty more now? When nine to eleven happened,
they finally decided, thank god, we've got to start screening
check bags. But far too often they don't think it's
going to be a problem, and it just it bothers
(06:50):
me because we need to be thinking. I don't like
to turn outside the box because it's overused, but we've
got to anticipate what a terrorist might do moving forward.
And why would I try to hijack an airplane when
I could jump that the six foot tense with the
big imposing side access and aircraft on the tarmac and
taxi away from a gate and be airborne before military
(07:13):
intercept could be scrambled. If I'm close to a target,
it's toast. They're never going to stop me. And that's
why when we have the Alaska Airlines incident where employee
stole an airplane, took off for a joy ride, crashed
and died, nobody stopped him, and he could have gone
to some nearby target and crashed without anybody stopping him.
(07:35):
And I thought Okay, that's it. This is going to
be the thing that's going to allow us to see
more of an increase in safety on the tarmac, more security,
more types of things that would prevent stow ways and
everything else. So we're not saying it just it's not
a high priority, but I guarantee you if something horrific
happens the same we're not doing anything but sitting on
(07:55):
our butt. People in the industry, the FAA, and certainly
politicians pull a hamstring running to the microphone to scream
what they're going to do to help fix this. I'm sorry.
That's when it's too late, bozos, and we've got to
do something about it. Now.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
It seems like a very solvable problem, but we shall see.
J Ratlift our aviation expert. You can find Jay at
jratlift dot com. Before we let you fly, Jay, I
see a big deal with Boeing Lands, a huge order
with a couple of airlines. What's going on there?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah. Trump kind of got involved in this one too.
I had some discussions with some country leaders. The next thing,
you know, Turkish Airlines and Norwegian air decide to buy
two hundred and I mean two hundred. It could be
potentially two hundred and twenty five new aircraft from Boeing,
great big order. We've not been given a dollar amount.
I'm sure they got to discount those types of things.
But you know, for an aircraft manufacturer with all the
(08:49):
issues that Boeing is hand to land this kind of
a deal as they try to catch air Bus. It's
great to see now as long as they don't try
to quickly push these airplanes through the process and do
things they're not supposed to. I'm speaking of Boeing, I'll
feel better. Ask me in five years how I feel
about it. But it's certainly great news nine for Boeing,
but the hundreds of companies that support Boeing in parts
(09:10):
and services and things of this nature. So it's a
boom for the economy and that aspect, and I love
to see it. I want Boeing to survive. I want Boeing, well,
I'm not worried about surviving, but I want them to
thrive in a way like they used to once they
get out of their own way. And I hope with
the new CEO they've had over the last couple of years,
they're moving in that direction. I'm cautiously optimistic, but I
(09:34):
was proven an idiot five years ago. When I believe them,
I'm not going back there and believing any words of
promise that they've given us until they've proven over a
period of time that they're not pulling scrap pieces that
have failed inspection and throwing them on an airplane because
they've ran out of parts, and oh my gosh, we
can't keep the airplane from rolling down the assembly line.
(09:54):
So let's grab a failed part and put it on
the airplane, and I'm sure everything will be okay, No bowe,
it will not be unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Jay. I'm looking at the National Weather Radar right now
and it looks pretty promising if you're traveling today. Any
hub delays we got to worry about a couple of.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Days ago when the sky was falling, dogs and cats
living together, the massiest area that was coming out from
the weather people. We had a couple of storms, but
they kind of stayed off the east of us. But
we are having some issues towards the Charlotte North towards Washington,
d C. And New York. So if you're traveling in
that area towards the northeast, we're connecting in American or
with the American through Charlotte could see some delays approaching
(10:33):
an hour, but other than that, headed south through Chicago
out west should be in pretty good shape. So all along, yeah,
I would agree with you. It's gonna be a pretty
good dat to find
And my Legacy Retirement Group dot com phone line. He
(00:02):
is our aviation experts, airplanes, airlines, airline travel. If it's involved,
he's got it for us. Jayratlift atjratlift dot com. Jay,
Good morning boy. I saw this story pop up, one
of these grizzly situations where a stowaway was found dead
inside landing gear of an American Airlines flight. What's the story there?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yes, what the second time in a week we've been
talking about a stowaway. First one was somebody in Afghanistan
jumped on a flight thinking they were going to Rand.
They ended up in New Delhi and that thirteen year
old survived that ninety four minute flight and was sent
back to the country he came from. And now we
have a maintenance crew in Charlotte that just a routine
(00:47):
aircraft inspection finds the remains of someone that tried to
stow away in a wheelwel of an aircraft coming over
from Europe and the person sadly died. Of of course,
the landing compartment of these airplanes, depending on which type
of aircraft, not a whole lot of room, so you
always run the risk of being crushed to death. Then
(01:08):
if that doesn't happen, you could freeze to death. And
if that doesn't happen, you could run out of oxygen. So,
because when you're talking about or thirty five thousand feet,
you're talking about fifty degrees below zero, there's very little,
if any oxygen, and there's all kinds of problems that
set in, which is why eighty percent of the people
that have tried this over the years typically die in
(01:28):
the process. So they was just a gruesome discovery and obviously,
you know, your heart breaks for whoever it was that
decided to try to do this, putting their life in jeopardy.
But my very second follow up thought is where's the
security at the airport where this airplane originated from? If
you've got someone that can either a stroll across the
(01:50):
tarmac jump into an aircraft and nobody on the ground
see them, or if the airplane is by itself at
the end of a runway preparing to take off, holding
for just a minute where somebody could approach it from
behind unseen because there's no other airplanes around, where's the
security Because had this been a terrorist who is going
to put a bomb on the airplane? Oh boy, yeah,
(02:12):
obviously they could have done it and walked right away.
So you know, every time we've and we've had this
happen in the United States where we've had stowways from
various US airports, so it just screams to me that
we need to be doing a far better job of
not only spending billions of dollars in security inside the airport.
(02:32):
I get that we need to, but these airplanes that
remained overnight at four hundred and some airports across the country,
just here in the United States, We've got to do
a better job. And I've almost gone horse screaming about
this over the decades, because you just can't ignore that. Now.
We have certainly improved our security measures a lot I
(02:53):
can't talk about as far as airport grounds, but I
think there's so much more, so much more we can
do that we're not And if you talk to my
friends at the FAA, they're gonna say, well, Jay, that's
not our concern right now. We're worried about blah blah blah.
They're always trying to prevent the last attack, right really
trying to say how could we maybe prevent a future one?
(03:15):
And that's why they you know, only a handful of
airports in the country screen their employees. They go from
the parking lot, employee parking a lot to the tarmac.
It's random, they always and you know that to me
is just it's a disaster waiting to happen, because you
have a million people a month touching airplanes that have
been screened that before the shift. And when you have
(03:38):
that plus this lack of security that allows these stolways
to jump on board an airplane, I'm sorry, that is
a huge red flag to me, and something's got.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
To get done, no doubt, security huge issue. I wouldn't
even know how to go about getting to the tarmac.
I mean, I guess, like you said, using the employee
parking lot and you know, sneaking through some sort of
a checkpoint there. But what is in these people's heads
thinking that they're going to survive this trip? As you say,
it's incredibly cold, there's no oxygen, you could get crushed
(04:08):
by the landing gear. It just it doesn't seem like
your odds are in your favor.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
It's not. And it's just over the years have been
some of the horrific stories of people that they look
at it as an adventure. They put on the goggles,
a little ret the red scarf. They think they're just
gonna gonna fly, and then something just horrific happens. And
what prevents them from gaining access to the tarmac is
that great, big six to eight foot fence with that
(04:34):
very imposing do not trespass sign. I mean, if that
doesn't keep you, you know, you should put that in
front of your house and just watch criminals fulle and tear,
because that's going to do it. Sadly, that's obviously not
the case. But when you hear a story last week
of a thirteen year old doing it and surviving, perhaps
I don't know this for sure, maybe that news made
(04:57):
somebody think it can be done. If he did it,
I can. You know, that's a ninety four minute flight.
You are at the cruising altitude for a minimum amount
of time. Most of that time it's spent cruising up
and then cruising down. You have some radiant heat that
comes off of that landing gear when it's retracted. That
lasts for just moments, but it is some heat inside
(05:20):
that area. But when you're talking about a flight from
Europe into Charlotte, it's eight to ten hours. I'm sorry,
the way, there's no way you're going to survive that,
and we it's breakfast. I've got to be careful. But
you know, we've had situations with airplanes coming into New
York they drop the landing gear and things fall out.
It's because people don't survive that, and it's just it's
(05:45):
such a sad, sad situation and we're never going to
totally prevent it. But when I see repeat occurrences, I'm
thinking there's a security issue. There's a security issue, and yes,
we will look into it, Yes we will take what
precautions we can. But you know, it reminds me the
conversations I had with airlines and people within the FAA
and Department Transportation pre nine to eleven when we were
(06:07):
not screening check bags, and I said, that is such
a huge issue in security because people think that domestic
bags are screened. They're not. They went from the ticket
counter to the tug to the airplane. We didn't screen
hardly any bag. You give me fifty terrorists across the
country that put bombs and bags check on the planes
(06:28):
and either board or don't. There's a chance to sit.
The airplanes conve have been blown out of the sky.
So anytime pre nine to eleven and an airplane went down,
we were holding a breath, thinking, are we about to
have twenty or thirty more now? When nine to eleven happened,
they finally decided, thank god, we've got to start screening
check bags. But far too often they don't think it's
going to be a problem, and it just it bothers
(06:50):
me because we need to be thinking. I don't like
to turn outside the box because it's overused, but we've
got to anticipate what a terrorist might do moving forward.
And why would I try to hijack an airplane when
I could jump that the six foot tense with the
big imposing side access and aircraft on the tarmac and
taxi away from a gate and be airborne before military
(07:13):
intercept could be scrambled. If I'm close to a target,
it's toast. They're never going to stop me. And that's
why when we have the Alaska Airlines incident where employee
stole an airplane, took off for a joy ride, crashed
and died, nobody stopped him, and he could have gone
to some nearby target and crashed without anybody stopping him.
(07:35):
And I thought Okay, that's it. This is going to
be the thing that's going to allow us to see
more of an increase in safety on the tarmac, more security,
more types of things that would prevent stow ways and
everything else. So we're not saying it just it's not
a high priority, but I guarantee you if something horrific
happens the same we're not doing anything but sitting on
(07:55):
our butt. People in the industry, the FAA, and certainly
politicians pull a hamstring running to the microphone to scream
what they're going to do to help fix this. I'm sorry.
That's when it's too late, bozos, and we've got to
do something about it. Now.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
It seems like a very solvable problem, but we shall see.
J Ratlift our aviation expert. You can find Jay at
jratlift dot com. Before we let you fly, Jay, I
see a big deal with Boeing Lands, a huge order
with a couple of airlines. What's going on there?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah. Trump kind of got involved in this one too.
I had some discussions with some country leaders. The next thing,
you know, Turkish Airlines and Norwegian air decide to buy
two hundred and I mean two hundred. It could be
potentially two hundred and twenty five new aircraft from Boeing,
great big order. We've not been given a dollar amount.
I'm sure they got to discount those types of things.
But you know, for an aircraft manufacturer with all the
(08:49):
issues that Boeing is hand to land this kind of
a deal as they try to catch air Bus. It's
great to see now as long as they don't try
to quickly push these airplanes through the process and do
things they're not supposed to. I'm speaking of Boeing, I'll
feel better. Ask me in five years how I feel
about it. But it's certainly great news nine for Boeing,
but the hundreds of companies that support Boeing in parts
(09:10):
and services and things of this nature. So it's a
boom for the economy and that aspect, and I love
to see it. I want Boeing to survive. I want Boeing, well,
I'm not worried about surviving, but I want them to
thrive in a way like they used to once they
get out of their own way. And I hope with
the new CEO they've had over the last couple of years,
they're moving in that direction. I'm cautiously optimistic, but I
(09:34):
was proven an idiot five years ago. When I believe them,
I'm not going back there and believing any words of
promise that they've given us until they've proven over a
period of time that they're not pulling scrap pieces that
have failed inspection and throwing them on an airplane because
they've ran out of parts, and oh my gosh, we
can't keep the airplane from rolling down the assembly line.
(09:54):
So let's grab a failed part and put it on
the airplane, and I'm sure everything will be okay, No bowe,
it will not be unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Jay. I'm looking at the National Weather Radar right now
and it looks pretty promising if you're traveling today. Any
hub delays we got to worry about a couple of.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Days ago when the sky was falling, dogs and cats
living together, the massiest area that was coming out from
the weather people. We had a couple of storms, but
they kind of stayed off the east of us. But
we are having some issues towards the Charlotte North towards Washington,
d C. And New York. So if you're traveling in
that area towards the northeast, we're connecting in American or
with the American through Charlotte could see some delays approaching
(10:33):
an hour, but other than that, headed south through Chicago
out west should be in pretty good shape. So all along, yeah,
I would agree with you. It's gonna be a pretty
good dat to find
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