September 18, 2025 • 11 mins
Mike and Campy discuss the Jimmy Kimmel Live show being taken off the air, and Brian Kilmeade's "Involuntary Lethal Injection" comment
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Jimmy Kimmel's story. This is an interesting discussion. ABC
pulled Jimmy Kimmel's late night show indefinitely. They made the
decision last night, according to a networks spokesperson.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Jimmy Kimmel on Monday night said this, he.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Hit some new lows over the weekend with the Magga
Gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie
Kirk as anything other than one of them, and everything
they can to score political points from it.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Okay, he is suggesting that the Charlie Kirk assassin was
a conservative Trump supporter, which is anything but the truth.
There is a mountain of evidence to suggest otherwise. They're
just his, They're just his. He wrote on the bullet casings.
He confessed to the crimes, and he called Charlie Kirk
(00:54):
full of hate. And I mean, it's just there is
so much out there that suggests this guy was anything
but a conservative, And how anyone could even think that
he was a conservative, That any conservative would have killed
Charlie Kirk is just mind blowing.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
So ABC, now, due to pressure from some of these operators,
is specifically next Star in Sinclair, who NEXTTAR operates Channel
four in Columbus. Sinclair operates Channel six, which is the
ABC affiliate, which is what the.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Jimmy Kimmel Show was on.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
They put pressure on ABC and said, you know what,
we have an FCC license. We are bound to serve
the public interest, and this no longer serves the communities
in which we operate. We're not going to run this
show anymore. And we're talking about hundreds and hundreds of
TV stations. So ABC says, okay, well then he's off,
(01:54):
So get ready for a steady diet of celebrity family
feud with Steve Harvey, which I'm absolutely fine with.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Everybody needs a break.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
People are calling this censorship. It's not because the government
didn't do this. The company that owns the show, the
Jimmy Kimmel Show, Disney slash ABC, did this due to
pressure from the TV operators.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
And this is just what this is.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Just where we are. I mean, you can't come out
there and tell lies like that. And then I get people, well, Mike,
what about Brian Killmead on Fox? You know, you know
what he said the other day.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
He called for the involuntary injections of.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Home involuntary lethal injections of mentally ill homeless people. Here's
the context on what kill Mead said. They were talking
and this is before the Charlie Kirk situation. They were
talking about the homeless guy who killed the Ukrainian immigrant
Arina Zarutska on the public transit train in Charlotte, North Carolina.
(02:58):
It just came up behind her and stabbed her, apparently
for no reason.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
It was brutal.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
It was brutal.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
So kill Meads on his show and one of the
co hosts said, Uh, you know, maybe that homeless people
who were who refuse service services and programs should go
to jail and then kill Mead said, or involuntary lethal
injection or something. Okay, not a great comment to make.
Here's the difference there. Kill Mead's on Fox. Fox is
(03:27):
on Cable. Fox doesn't have an FCC license. They're not
beholden to the same rules and regulations that broadcast stations
are like ABC, CBS, NBC.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
I was not aware of that that they were not
under the FCC umbrella.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
So that's why Cable can get away with more. Now
if Fox wanted to. I would not be surprised if
Fox had suspended kill Mead over that remark.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah, or fired him. I mean they're not going to.
I think he's on this morning.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
But he apologized and then he and that's the other
part is he very very swift realized the error of
his ways and he apologized.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Where Kimmel hasn't said anything else yet.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
I mean, he had an opportunity to go on Tuesday
night and take back his comments that the Charlie kirk
shooter was MAGA or a Trump supporter.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
He didn't.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
That's true, and then he was not on last night. Yes,
so they were both wrong. They were both wrong. If
I had been if it were me, I would have.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
This is so difficult for me because I'm.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
They were both wrong. They were just both wrong. It
was the one total lie.
Speaker 6 (04:35):
It was inaccurate about Charlie Kirks shooter, that he was
a left, that he was a conservative.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
That is not true.
Speaker 6 (04:43):
I did not like Brian killed Meade's statement because he
did say or give them involuntary lethaland Jackson's and then
he said just kill him. Now.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Now the difference again is in kill Meade's statement that
he wasn't talking about anything factual is just an opinion
of his So it was not a great thing to say,
but there's no right or wrong. I mean you could
look at that and go, oh, that's a kind of
an out there whackow opinion where kim Well basically lied
(05:14):
to his audience.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
And that's where.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
People who run these TV stations Sinclair Next Hour goes,
you can't come on ands and spread the disinformation and lie.
You are not serving our audiences as is defined by
the FCC. And look all these people have to do.
If you are someone that doesn't like Trump, if you
(05:39):
are someone that doesn't like or didn't like Charlie Kirk,
three things you had to not do, and it's super simple.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
All you had to.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Not do was not celebrate his death. All you have
to not do is sympathize with the killer. And all
you have to not do is lie about the details
about the assassination. And Jimmy Kimmel couldn't do it. He
just couldn't do it.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
I am not disagreeing with that at all.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
Do I feel like I still at the time, though,
I feel like the incorrect information. We've seen people do
this throughout media quite a bit that keep their job.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
I feel like there was someone that didn't like it
enough to get him thrown out. Now, I don't consider
that censorship. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
It's not censorship.
Speaker 6 (06:28):
Is that.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
You're right, it's not. But someone didn't like it.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
And I'm going back to the if you don't like it,
you know, that's part of.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
You know, who didn't like to see you know, who
doesn't like it, the advertisers. That's true because the Kimmel
Show's rating ratings were so bad. Yeah, and so they
were worse than Stephen Colbert's ratings. And Colbert was canceled
earlier this year. I think his last show is in
the spring?
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Is it the spring? Gosh? I thought it was gonna be,
which I.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Don't understand that. Either you cancel a show or you don't.
But I mean he's they I guess he's not been renewed. Yeah,
Colbert to finishers out your contract or whatever. Yeah, So
if Kimmel is doing worse than Colbert, Colbert was canceled.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Colbar's show was costing CBS forty million dollars a year.
Colbert and Kim will make about the same amount. They
both make it right around between seventeen and twenty thousand
dollars a year.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, they have large staffs, writers, production.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
These are not cheap shows to produce, and they're losing
money they are, So you know, was this a convenient
out for ABC?
Speaker 6 (07:37):
Maybe that's that was going to be my next comments that,
you know, why didn't they do it earlier?
Speaker 1 (07:41):
He's got a contract. You know, the ratings stink, but
you know, we're stuck with him. I don't know the
ins and outs of that, but you know, maybe this
is like it's a relief now for ABC. And you're
seeing with these companies, we're very quick to roll back
a lot of big companies roll back all the DEI stuff.
It almost seems like they were playing along during the
Biden administration just because they just you know, play along
(08:03):
to get along, go along to get along. Yeah, And
then the minute that they had the opportunity to roll
back some of these far left kind of crazy ideas
that they did, they took the opportunity. Boom right now,
this could be the case with ABC going you know what,
this guy sucks, he just does.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
They just needed the push, They just needed one thing
to get it going. I also, just to balance this
a little bit, I would have suspended Brian kill Mead.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
I found that way out of line. I'm not saying
you need to loot his job, but.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
I thought that even with the apology, I'm like, well,
you got to pay the fiddler on this one.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
And that's I mean, certainly your call if you're running Fox.
But if I were running Fox, Yeah, yeah, just I
think what kim said is far worse because you're talking
about a specific incident.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
You know, kill Mead was talking about it.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
He said he got caught up in the moment with
the death of the Ukrainian immigrant and the homeless guy,
and but he didn't tell an untruth. Kimmel told an
untruth on federally regulated airwaves. I mean we talked about
this with sixty minutes editing the Kamala Harrison interview to
make her look good.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yeah. During the election, Yeah, And I mean that blew
up in their face.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
People lost their jobs, people quit over that, they settled
the lawsuit.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
Yeah, you got to have the accuracy or there's no point.
I mean, the idea is to try to inform the
audience the best way possible, and you can't.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Do which is why the FCC has granted you a
license to begin with.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
So it's pretty remarkable that you've got local broadcasters going
bottom up, telling national programmers like Disney ABC that your
content no longer meets the needs and wants and the
values of our communities.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
Yeah, we saw it happen to Brian Williams and Dan
Rather for their They told untruth.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
And they got them.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
This is not a new thing, no is This really
isn't a new phenomenon. It's just, you know, it's happening
in these politically charged times. In Jimmy Kimmel, who what
happened him? By the way, and he he has gone
from Remember The Man Show with Adam Carolla?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Was that Comedy Central?
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Yeah, I mean these were just you know, kind of punky, funny,
frat guys doing you know, just cheap a.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Lot of beer drinking, and a lot of attractive individuals on.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Stage, slapstick set up, knockdown guy humor, which I mean
in today's world you could probably never pull off that
show today. But I don't know if, like Kimmel was,
is feeling guilty about those days with Adam Carolla and
he's trying to overcompensate now by trying, you know, going
(10:39):
far far left.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
I think he's had he's had a lot of issues.
You know, his it was his child was really sick.
I think he's emotionally charged like a lot of us are.
And you know he let it, he let it go
on the air. I'm not excusing it.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
And it's not even alive either, it's taped.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Well, that's the other thing. Why didn't you that out?
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Someone should have made an executive decision there and gone.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
You know, maybe they didn't want to. As you brought
up before.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
The ABC saw an opportunity to cut some dead weight
and do something different late nights and you know, maybe
improve the ratings and satisfy some some advertisers. And then Sinclair.
I mean, so this is next star in Sinclair, Sinclair
who runs ABC six And in Fox twenty eight, they
actually called Kimmel to apologize, issue a direct apology to
(11:28):
the Kirk family, make a meaningful personal donation to them
and Charlie Kirk's conservative Turning.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Point USA group. Kimmel won't do that. And look, don't
feel bad for Jimmy Kimmel.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
He'll he hosts award shows and he'll get a podcast
wanted to be a million bill. Yeah, he'll do a
YouTube show and all that. But it makes for a
kind of an interesting discussion
The Jimmy Kimmel's story. This is an interesting discussion. ABC
pulled Jimmy Kimmel's late night show indefinitely. They made the
decision last night, according to a networks spokesperson.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Jimmy Kimmel on Monday night said this, he.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Hit some new lows over the weekend with the Magga
Gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie
Kirk as anything other than one of them, and everything
they can to score political points from it.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Okay, he is suggesting that the Charlie Kirk assassin was
a conservative Trump supporter, which is anything but the truth.
There is a mountain of evidence to suggest otherwise. They're
just his, They're just his. He wrote on the bullet casings.
He confessed to the crimes, and he called Charlie Kirk
(00:54):
full of hate. And I mean, it's just there is
so much out there that suggests this guy was anything
but a conservative, And how anyone could even think that
he was a conservative, That any conservative would have killed
Charlie Kirk is just mind blowing.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
So ABC, now, due to pressure from some of these operators,
is specifically next Star in Sinclair, who NEXTTAR operates Channel
four in Columbus. Sinclair operates Channel six, which is the
ABC affiliate, which is what the.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Jimmy Kimmel Show was on.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
They put pressure on ABC and said, you know what,
we have an FCC license. We are bound to serve
the public interest, and this no longer serves the communities
in which we operate. We're not going to run this
show anymore. And we're talking about hundreds and hundreds of
TV stations. So ABC says, okay, well then he's off,
(01:54):
So get ready for a steady diet of celebrity family
feud with Steve Harvey, which I'm absolutely fine with.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Everybody needs a break.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
People are calling this censorship. It's not because the government
didn't do this. The company that owns the show, the
Jimmy Kimmel Show, Disney slash ABC, did this due to
pressure from the TV operators.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
And this is just what this is.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Just where we are. I mean, you can't come out
there and tell lies like that. And then I get people, well, Mike,
what about Brian Killmead on Fox? You know, you know
what he said the other day.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
He called for the involuntary injections of.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Home involuntary lethal injections of mentally ill homeless people. Here's
the context on what kill Mead said. They were talking
and this is before the Charlie Kirk situation. They were
talking about the homeless guy who killed the Ukrainian immigrant
Arina Zarutska on the public transit train in Charlotte, North Carolina.
(02:58):
It just came up behind her and stabbed her, apparently
for no reason.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
It was brutal.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
It was brutal.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
So kill Meads on his show and one of the
co hosts said, Uh, you know, maybe that homeless people
who were who refuse service services and programs should go
to jail and then kill Mead said, or involuntary lethal
injection or something. Okay, not a great comment to make.
Here's the difference there. Kill Mead's on Fox. Fox is
(03:27):
on Cable. Fox doesn't have an FCC license. They're not
beholden to the same rules and regulations that broadcast stations
are like ABC, CBS, NBC.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
I was not aware of that that they were not
under the FCC umbrella.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
So that's why Cable can get away with more. Now
if Fox wanted to. I would not be surprised if
Fox had suspended kill Mead over that remark.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah, or fired him. I mean they're not going to.
I think he's on this morning.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
But he apologized and then he and that's the other
part is he very very swift realized the error of
his ways and he apologized.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Where Kimmel hasn't said anything else yet.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
I mean, he had an opportunity to go on Tuesday
night and take back his comments that the Charlie kirk
shooter was MAGA or a Trump supporter.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
He didn't.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
That's true, and then he was not on last night. Yes,
so they were both wrong. They were both wrong. If
I had been if it were me, I would have.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
This is so difficult for me because I'm.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
They were both wrong. They were just both wrong. It
was the one total lie.
Speaker 6 (04:35):
It was inaccurate about Charlie Kirks shooter, that he was
a left, that he was a conservative.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
That is not true.
Speaker 6 (04:43):
I did not like Brian killed Meade's statement because he
did say or give them involuntary lethaland Jackson's and then
he said just kill him. Now.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Now the difference again is in kill Meade's statement that
he wasn't talking about anything factual is just an opinion
of his So it was not a great thing to say,
but there's no right or wrong. I mean you could
look at that and go, oh, that's a kind of
an out there whackow opinion where kim Well basically lied
(05:14):
to his audience.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
And that's where.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
People who run these TV stations Sinclair Next Hour goes,
you can't come on ands and spread the disinformation and lie.
You are not serving our audiences as is defined by
the FCC. And look all these people have to do.
If you are someone that doesn't like Trump, if you
(05:39):
are someone that doesn't like or didn't like Charlie Kirk,
three things you had to not do, and it's super simple.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
All you had to.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Not do was not celebrate his death. All you have
to not do is sympathize with the killer. And all
you have to not do is lie about the details
about the assassination. And Jimmy Kimmel couldn't do it. He
just couldn't do it.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
I am not disagreeing with that at all.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
Do I feel like I still at the time, though,
I feel like the incorrect information. We've seen people do
this throughout media quite a bit that keep their job.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
I feel like there was someone that didn't like it
enough to get him thrown out. Now, I don't consider
that censorship. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
It's not censorship.
Speaker 6 (06:28):
Is that.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
You're right, it's not. But someone didn't like it.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
And I'm going back to the if you don't like it,
you know, that's part of.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
You know, who didn't like to see you know, who
doesn't like it, the advertisers. That's true because the Kimmel
Show's rating ratings were so bad. Yeah, and so they
were worse than Stephen Colbert's ratings. And Colbert was canceled
earlier this year. I think his last show is in
the spring?
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Is it the spring? Gosh? I thought it was gonna be,
which I.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Don't understand that. Either you cancel a show or you don't.
But I mean he's they I guess he's not been renewed. Yeah,
Colbert to finishers out your contract or whatever. Yeah, So
if Kimmel is doing worse than Colbert, Colbert was canceled.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Colbar's show was costing CBS forty million dollars a year.
Colbert and Kim will make about the same amount. They
both make it right around between seventeen and twenty thousand
dollars a year.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, they have large staffs, writers, production.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
These are not cheap shows to produce, and they're losing
money they are, So you know, was this a convenient
out for ABC?
Speaker 6 (07:37):
Maybe that's that was going to be my next comments that,
you know, why didn't they do it earlier?
Speaker 1 (07:41):
He's got a contract. You know, the ratings stink, but
you know, we're stuck with him. I don't know the
ins and outs of that, but you know, maybe this
is like it's a relief now for ABC. And you're
seeing with these companies, we're very quick to roll back
a lot of big companies roll back all the DEI stuff.
It almost seems like they were playing along during the
Biden administration just because they just you know, play along
(08:03):
to get along, go along to get along. Yeah, And
then the minute that they had the opportunity to roll
back some of these far left kind of crazy ideas
that they did, they took the opportunity. Boom right now,
this could be the case with ABC going you know what,
this guy sucks, he just does.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
They just needed the push, They just needed one thing
to get it going. I also, just to balance this
a little bit, I would have suspended Brian kill Mead.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
I found that way out of line. I'm not saying
you need to loot his job, but.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
I thought that even with the apology, I'm like, well,
you got to pay the fiddler on this one.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
And that's I mean, certainly your call if you're running Fox.
But if I were running Fox, Yeah, yeah, just I
think what kim said is far worse because you're talking
about a specific incident.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
You know, kill Mead was talking about it.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
He said he got caught up in the moment with
the death of the Ukrainian immigrant and the homeless guy,
and but he didn't tell an untruth. Kimmel told an
untruth on federally regulated airwaves. I mean we talked about
this with sixty minutes editing the Kamala Harrison interview to
make her look good.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yeah. During the election, Yeah, And I mean that blew
up in their face.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
People lost their jobs, people quit over that, they settled
the lawsuit.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
Yeah, you got to have the accuracy or there's no point.
I mean, the idea is to try to inform the
audience the best way possible, and you can't.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Do which is why the FCC has granted you a
license to begin with.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
So it's pretty remarkable that you've got local broadcasters going
bottom up, telling national programmers like Disney ABC that your
content no longer meets the needs and wants and the
values of our communities.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
Yeah, we saw it happen to Brian Williams and Dan
Rather for their They told untruth.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
And they got them.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
This is not a new thing, no is This really
isn't a new phenomenon. It's just, you know, it's happening
in these politically charged times. In Jimmy Kimmel, who what
happened him? By the way, and he he has gone
from Remember The Man Show with Adam Carolla?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Was that Comedy Central?
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Yeah, I mean these were just you know, kind of punky, funny,
frat guys doing you know, just cheap a.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Lot of beer drinking, and a lot of attractive individuals on.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Stage, slapstick set up, knockdown guy humor, which I mean
in today's world you could probably never pull off that
show today. But I don't know if, like Kimmel was,
is feeling guilty about those days with Adam Carolla and
he's trying to overcompensate now by trying, you know, going
(10:39):
far far left.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
I think he's had he's had a lot of issues.
You know, his it was his child was really sick.
I think he's emotionally charged like a lot of us are.
And you know he let it, he let it go
on the air. I'm not excusing it.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
And it's not even alive either, it's taped.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Well, that's the other thing. Why didn't you that out?
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Someone should have made an executive decision there and gone.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
You know, maybe they didn't want to. As you brought
up before.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
The ABC saw an opportunity to cut some dead weight
and do something different late nights and you know, maybe
improve the ratings and satisfy some some advertisers. And then Sinclair.
I mean, so this is next star in Sinclair, Sinclair
who runs ABC six And in Fox twenty eight, they
actually called Kimmel to apologize, issue a direct apology to
(11:28):
the Kirk family, make a meaningful personal donation to them
and Charlie Kirk's conservative Turning.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Point USA group. Kimmel won't do that. And look, don't
feel bad for Jimmy Kimmel.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
He'll he hosts award shows and he'll get a podcast
wanted to be a million bill. Yeah, he'll do a
YouTube show and all that. But it makes for a
kind of an interesting discussion
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