October 13, 2025 • 8 mins
Dan Snell, expert in leadership and politics weighs in on what needs to be done to end the Government Shutdown
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Over to the Legacy Retirement Group dot com phone line.
Let's say good morning to our friend Dan Snell, an
expert in leadership and politics. He's got a couple of books,
The wins Candidate, The Winsome Way. I've heard to him
referred to as America's wins ologists. Dan, What does it
mean to be winsome?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Well? Win them is a twelve hundred year old word
that means positive, upbeat, cheerful, looks for the good, kind
of a winning spirit, a little bit of charisma, and
you know, kind of a message that people want to say, Hey,
I want to follow that. So I think everybody, all
your listeners should want to aspire to be winsome, as
(00:39):
should everyone that runs for elective office.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
It's not always easy to do, especially in times of
great divisiveness as we are in now.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, these are interesting times. You know, this morning we
are celebrating. I was watching earlier the President he should
get credit for the incredible things he's doing there with Israel,
and I'm and gods that they're going to sign that treaty.
And at the same time, you know, I say with
a smile, and as part of my winsome way, is
(01:08):
that I wish he would bring that same type of
lay let's sit down and talk and negotiate and have
a peace treaty when it comes to Washington, d C.
Between members of the of Congress.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
You know, it's interesting you bring that up.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
And yeah, Trump is just wrapping up speaking to the
Israeli parliament there as of course the big story this
morning as Amas has released the twenty Israeli hostage, the
twenty remaining living Israeli hostages. You know in the Middle East, Dan,
they they got to yes, and then they hammered out
(01:42):
the details, so they agreed to agree on something, and
then they got to the details. Why can't we do
that here at home with Republicans and Democrats?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I think that's kind of what Republicans wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
They wanted to keep the government funded, get to yes
and by yourself some time to then hammer out the details.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Why can't we do that domestically?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, exactly, that should be able. Both sides are to blame.
You know, we have all these polls. We blame Republicans,
we blame Democrats. It isn't about blaming. It's about the
s of win substance for via solutionnaire and whether I'm
Chuck Schumer or Donald Trump or or Vice President Vance,
we should be talking about what is this solution. And
in this case, with regards to some of those details,
(02:27):
I think the real key detail has to do with
the assistance on the government healthcare, the Obamacare as it's called.
Because I have personal friends, in fact, my daughter, because
she is self employed, she uses that and it would
the rate would go up. And the fact of the
matter is if they don't address that now and they
(02:50):
wait to do it, they won't be able to get
those supplements in time for next year. So that's why
the one thing the Democrats just say, we just want
one thing, stop digging their heels in, as should the
White House and the Republicans, Mike Johnson and all. They
should say, let's just okay, what's the one key thing.
Let's get past that, and then we can work on
(03:11):
these other things after we get the government back on board.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
So how do you agree on that?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Though, if you're so dug in and in, Republicans just say,
you know, look, if you agree to open up the
government now, get everybody back to work and hopefully nobody
misses a paycheck, although it could be too late. Then
we'll come to the table with a deal for you.
And Democrats say, no, we want the deal, then we'll
(03:39):
open It seems like it's not even about the actual
healthcare itself issue.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
It's about what comes first.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
The chicken are of the egg, Like, just fund the
government will get you a deal on healthcare, but Democrats
refuse to do that.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yeah, you know, my dad always said, we just sit
across the table from someone, try to put yourself in
their side of the table or what their what their
thoughts are, and try to find in your conversation, Okay,
I understand your side, and now here's my side. And
you know, Compromise is not a four letter word. Compromise
is not a dirty word. Ronald Reagan used to talk about, Hey, compromise,
(04:16):
if we can get eighty percent of what we're seeking
the other twenty percent we don't, shouldn't dig our heels in.
We should just say okay, we will rest and save
that for another day. So both sides this concept of
not wanting to come to the table and or saying
they'll come to the table but then not doing it.
You know, I wish I was there. You know, I
(04:36):
referee basketball, college basketball as a hobby, and I would
be calling the unsportsmanlike contest all over the place, because
these guys need to need to have some get in
the referee. You get a couple of players together, a
couple of coaches and say, hey, we need to get
control of this game. And in this case, the president
is a very compelling and powerful man. And if he
(04:56):
would call the Democratic leaders and say we're going to work,
not going to leave this room until we work this
out and get the government doors open again, he could
do that.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I think he could.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
And I think he has said he will work with
them on healthcare, but just give me the votes to
fund the government for the next month or so and then, well,
you trust me, we'll get a deal done. But it
seems alas we're at this, at this sort of impasse.
How does this end? I mean, do they they need
someone like you, Dan? Go on, don't you go get
(05:27):
to d C, Get out of get out of Kansas City,
Put put the barbecue on the back burner for now,
get to d C and get a deal done with
these guys.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, they It really is true. They need someone with
a concept of Hey, I don't want to I don't
want to hear. This can't can't happen unless I want
to hear. How are we going to make this happen?
What do we got to do to get to the solution,
and get to the solution before we leave this room.
And instead of counting the days of the government shutdown,
(05:57):
let's count the hours that the the two sides are
sitting in a conference room together until they get it done.
That's the hours we should be counting, not the time
the government shut down.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
He is our win. Some guest.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
It's Dan Snell and expert in leadership and politics. And Dan,
as well as politics, you've got a pretty cool thing
going on personally. You've started a national association USABFA dot com.
You've created this to help advocate and serve blended families,
step families, and single parents.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Talk about that for a second.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah, thank you Michael bringing that. Yeah, there are twenty
nine million households in America that are in a blended
family step family environment are single parents, but it is
the largest family demographic in America. And yes, there are
resources you can go to one off, but I'm bringing
together the best and the brightest across the country and
counselors family law people, even coaches that just encourage everything
(06:54):
from conversations to how to work with your children. We've
got programs for children two teenagers fort because kids matter,
grandparents matter, we have programs for grandparents. So we're just
trying to develop something. We're kind of the AARP for
blended families. Good things happen in there.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yeah, that's that's really cool.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
And you know when you see some of these numbers
that you point out, as you said, seventy two percent
of people listening have been touched in their immediate families
by divorce or single parenthood and then marriage into a
blooded family. And you're suggesting by the twenty twenty eight elections,
your operation there USA BFA will probably be big enough
to start asking questions of those running for office.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeah, exactly. There's a lot of issues that take place
at both from the state government laws to the federal
government that impact families. And I do believe that we
could create a force a vote before us as well
as a buying purchasing power for us that people will
pay attention to. I'm getting calls from corporations that say, hey, wow,
(07:56):
we didn't realize that we'd like to be a partner
or spot Cure, because we'd like you to talk about
our product as the exclusive, whether it's dog food or
legal issues. We'd like to be a part of what
you're doing there
Over to the Legacy Retirement Group dot com phone line.
Let's say good morning to our friend Dan Snell, an
expert in leadership and politics. He's got a couple of books,
The wins Candidate, The Winsome Way. I've heard to him
referred to as America's wins ologists. Dan, What does it
mean to be winsome?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Well? Win them is a twelve hundred year old word
that means positive, upbeat, cheerful, looks for the good, kind
of a winning spirit, a little bit of charisma, and
you know, kind of a message that people want to say, Hey,
I want to follow that. So I think everybody, all
your listeners should want to aspire to be winsome, as
(00:39):
should everyone that runs for elective office.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
It's not always easy to do, especially in times of
great divisiveness as we are in now.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, these are interesting times. You know, this morning we
are celebrating. I was watching earlier the President he should
get credit for the incredible things he's doing there with Israel,
and I'm and gods that they're going to sign that treaty.
And at the same time, you know, I say with
a smile, and as part of my winsome way, is
(01:08):
that I wish he would bring that same type of
lay let's sit down and talk and negotiate and have
a peace treaty when it comes to Washington, d C.
Between members of the of Congress.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
You know, it's interesting you bring that up.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
And yeah, Trump is just wrapping up speaking to the
Israeli parliament there as of course the big story this
morning as Amas has released the twenty Israeli hostage, the
twenty remaining living Israeli hostages. You know in the Middle East, Dan,
they they got to yes, and then they hammered out
(01:42):
the details, so they agreed to agree on something, and
then they got to the details. Why can't we do
that here at home with Republicans and Democrats?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I think that's kind of what Republicans wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
They wanted to keep the government funded, get to yes
and by yourself some time to then hammer out the details.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Why can't we do that domestically?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, exactly, that should be able. Both sides are to blame.
You know, we have all these polls. We blame Republicans,
we blame Democrats. It isn't about blaming. It's about the
s of win substance for via solutionnaire and whether I'm
Chuck Schumer or Donald Trump or or Vice President Vance,
we should be talking about what is this solution. And
in this case, with regards to some of those details,
(02:27):
I think the real key detail has to do with
the assistance on the government healthcare, the Obamacare as it's called.
Because I have personal friends, in fact, my daughter, because
she is self employed, she uses that and it would
the rate would go up. And the fact of the
matter is if they don't address that now and they
(02:50):
wait to do it, they won't be able to get
those supplements in time for next year. So that's why
the one thing the Democrats just say, we just want
one thing, stop digging their heels in, as should the
White House and the Republicans, Mike Johnson and all. They
should say, let's just okay, what's the one key thing.
Let's get past that, and then we can work on
(03:11):
these other things after we get the government back on board.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
So how do you agree on that?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Though, if you're so dug in and in, Republicans just say,
you know, look, if you agree to open up the
government now, get everybody back to work and hopefully nobody
misses a paycheck, although it could be too late. Then
we'll come to the table with a deal for you.
And Democrats say, no, we want the deal, then we'll
(03:39):
open It seems like it's not even about the actual
healthcare itself issue.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
It's about what comes first.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
The chicken are of the egg, Like, just fund the
government will get you a deal on healthcare, but Democrats
refuse to do that.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yeah, you know, my dad always said, we just sit
across the table from someone, try to put yourself in
their side of the table or what their what their
thoughts are, and try to find in your conversation, Okay,
I understand your side, and now here's my side. And
you know, Compromise is not a four letter word. Compromise
is not a dirty word. Ronald Reagan used to talk about, Hey, compromise,
(04:16):
if we can get eighty percent of what we're seeking
the other twenty percent we don't, shouldn't dig our heels in.
We should just say okay, we will rest and save
that for another day. So both sides this concept of
not wanting to come to the table and or saying
they'll come to the table but then not doing it.
You know, I wish I was there. You know, I
(04:36):
referee basketball, college basketball as a hobby, and I would
be calling the unsportsmanlike contest all over the place, because
these guys need to need to have some get in
the referee. You get a couple of players together, a
couple of coaches and say, hey, we need to get
control of this game. And in this case, the president
is a very compelling and powerful man. And if he
(04:56):
would call the Democratic leaders and say we're going to work,
not going to leave this room until we work this
out and get the government doors open again, he could
do that.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I think he could.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
And I think he has said he will work with
them on healthcare, but just give me the votes to
fund the government for the next month or so and then, well,
you trust me, we'll get a deal done. But it
seems alas we're at this, at this sort of impasse.
How does this end? I mean, do they they need
someone like you, Dan? Go on, don't you go get
(05:27):
to d C, Get out of get out of Kansas City,
Put put the barbecue on the back burner for now,
get to d C and get a deal done with
these guys.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, they It really is true. They need someone with
a concept of Hey, I don't want to I don't
want to hear. This can't can't happen unless I want
to hear. How are we going to make this happen?
What do we got to do to get to the solution,
and get to the solution before we leave this room.
And instead of counting the days of the government shutdown,
(05:57):
let's count the hours that the the two sides are
sitting in a conference room together until they get it done.
That's the hours we should be counting, not the time
the government shut down.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
He is our win. Some guest.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
It's Dan Snell and expert in leadership and politics. And Dan,
as well as politics, you've got a pretty cool thing
going on personally. You've started a national association USABFA dot com.
You've created this to help advocate and serve blended families,
step families, and single parents.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Talk about that for a second.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah, thank you Michael bringing that. Yeah, there are twenty
nine million households in America that are in a blended
family step family environment are single parents, but it is
the largest family demographic in America. And yes, there are
resources you can go to one off, but I'm bringing
together the best and the brightest across the country and
counselors family law people, even coaches that just encourage everything
(06:54):
from conversations to how to work with your children. We've
got programs for children two teenagers fort because kids matter,
grandparents matter, we have programs for grandparents. So we're just
trying to develop something. We're kind of the AARP for
blended families. Good things happen in there.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yeah, that's that's really cool.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
And you know when you see some of these numbers
that you point out, as you said, seventy two percent
of people listening have been touched in their immediate families
by divorce or single parenthood and then marriage into a
blooded family. And you're suggesting by the twenty twenty eight elections,
your operation there USA BFA will probably be big enough
to start asking questions of those running for office.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeah, exactly. There's a lot of issues that take place
at both from the state government laws to the federal
government that impact families. And I do believe that we
could create a force a vote before us as well
as a buying purchasing power for us that people will
pay attention to. I'm getting calls from corporations that say, hey, wow,
(07:56):
we didn't realize that we'd like to be a partner
or spot Cure, because we'd like you to talk about
our product as the exclusive, whether it's dog food or
legal issues. We'd like to be a part of what
you're doing there
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