July 22, 2025 • 8 mins
Political Strategist David Grasso weighs in on these claims and....39 days to Ohio State Football!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Go over to the Legacy Retirement Group dot com phone
line and check in with political analyst David Grasso. David
is kind of a bombshell the other day Tulsea Gabbard
and the claims of the Obama era, the trees in
his conspiracy comes back to the Trump Russia collusion probe
after the twenty sixteen election.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
What's your take on this, Well, you know, Gabert alleges
that there was no strong pre election evidence that Putin
supported Trump. I can believe that there was a politicization
of intelligence. I'm just disappointed that she's deflecting from a
huge threat, which is of course always Russian interference in
our society. I think both can simultaneously be true.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Yeah, I guess, I mean it'll I guess it'll bear.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
You.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
We'll see what happens on this. But she's you know,
she's naming names.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
James Clapper from National Intelligence CIA director, John Brennan, FBI's
James Comy, Susan Rice, national security advisor. I mean, these
are big names in addition to Obama that's involved in this.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yeah. The only problem with what she's saying is if
she had come out and been like, listen, our intelligence
agencies have been politicized. We need more transparency around this process.
It's unfair to a sitting president. But treason is probably
the wrong word. The Constitution defines treason very narrowly. It's
levying more, giving aid and comfort to enemies, and political
(01:25):
misuse of intelligence. Even have proven in a court of law,
which there is no Department of Justice referral, there are
no indictments, et cetera, it probably doesn't qualify legally as treason.
So I believe this is probably the wrong label that
miss Gabbart's applying to this.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yeah, it could be. It depends on how important that is.
You want to call it treason, you want to call
it something else. I mean, if there is evidence that
this actually went down and it's wrong, no matter how
you slice it and dice it. Speaking to political analyst
David Grasso, So what's going to come of this, I
mean is will will somebody face charges on this.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Thing?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
So I don't think it's something that follows as legal action.
I think, unfortunately, we live in the era of the
politicization and weaponization of everything. You know, We've seen this
by both sides, and I think this is just another
case of you know, this is not surprising, right, wow,
that the political machinery in Washington is politicking. Politics is
(02:22):
always going to politic I think I'd rather see a
neutral intelligence agency that tries to keep Americans safe, and
I hope that future including president administrations, instead of using
it to punish political enemies or you know, destabilize the
next regime, use it to keep us faife and that's
(02:43):
all we can help for at this point.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Very good.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Appreciate your insight on that, your perspective at eight thirteen.
Political analyst David Grasso, appreciate your time. Have a good one, man.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
The Big Ten the meetings and media meetings are happening
in Vegas today, Yes, and the Big Ten now I
feel like it has like one hundred and twelve different teams,
but it's it feels that way. It's eighteen and it
used to be in Chicago, which made sense, but now.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
It's in Vegas, right.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I don't know if that's to appease some of the
West Coast teams so they don't have to travel so far.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
I mean, if you're Rutgers, you're probably not very happy.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Well, they probably so far away, they're like, this is
gonna be fun.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Well, that's true.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
They could do it from that stand.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Go, you know, go, you know, throw a couple of
bucks in the slots and go see a show and
have a Meal's right after the meetings.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
I found the other day.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Ryan Day is scheduled to talk this afternoon about his team.
I think you get six teams every day.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Yeah, yeah, because if there's eighteen total, yeah, so it'll
be six over the three day today, tomorrow and Thursday.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
So we'll break down what he has to say tomorrow
morning on the show. But Penn State, according to some
the preseason Big Ten writers, this is a very formal,
tight poll, but they have picked Penn State to win
the Big Ten this year.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I do believe it's.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
The first time in recent at least in recent memory, Yeah,
that Penn State has been at least pre season favorites
to win the Big Ten.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
I haven't seen that. I'll put to you that.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
I would say it's been thirty years because Penn State
when they first got in, remember you had Kerry Collins
and you had Dom Who's the running back that they had.
They had just an all world running back. He ended
up playing for the Bengals for look Carter. Okay, that
group ran away with the Big Ten the first year
they were there, when it became the Big eleven. Since then,
I can't remember.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Now they won the Big Ten in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
They were picked, but they were not picked, correct. I think,
so it's been an overall pick. I'll put money on
it that it's been a good thirty years.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
It sounds right to me, and I guess the reason
that these the sports writers are choosing Penn State is basically,
Drew Aller is arguably the best quarterback at this point
in the Big Ten.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
I have no argument here. He's got the most experience.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
It's July twenty second, right, but at this stage, I
mean he's at third year, he's he's got to be
twenty five with a family of four to four oh
one k by now, right.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Absolutely, he's got a Penn State retirement plan going on.
It's yeah, they're I mean they're fully loaded. Their running
backs are back, they're wide receivers, their defensive backs are back.
You're only missing Abdulla Carter who got drafted last year.
Outside of that, I mean this group they brought back
I think fifteen starters, so they they're doing the Ohio
State recipe from last year and implementing it this year.
(05:35):
So they're going to be strong. Ohio State, Oregon are
going to be your names. But you know, I think
UCLA and Washington should get thrown into the mix.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
A little bit too.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
I think they're going to be a lot stronger. I'm
not sure about USC yet. What was the one you
brought up earlier? Did you say Illinois?
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Illinois?
Speaker 1 (05:50):
So they have at Penn State one, Ohio State a
very close second. Penn State had eleven first place votes,
Ohio State had ten. Okay, then Oregon, Yeah, then Illinois
at four right, then Michigan rounding out the top five.
And I mentioned Illinois because they could be they surprised
people last season, yes, and so they could come back
(06:12):
and be very strong again this year.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
I would agree with that.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
I think, you know, from an Ohio State standpoint and
a team up North standpoint, if you look at there's
a lot of questions that still need to be answered.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Not that they're not going to be talented players.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
I mean there's been a lot of talk about Bryce Underwood,
that new quarterback who's already talking trash about the rivalry which.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Would be interesting.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
But Julian saying, is it going to be Lincoln Keenhols,
You know, is Ryandy going to bring Is he going
to answer that question tomorrow? I seriously doubt it. But
you know a lot of young talent in both places.
So from experience and talent level, Penn State right now
is should be on top that. I mean, they should
be that prediction anyway.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
And they will be here at the Horseshoe taking on
the Buckeyes November first, that.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Where it all comes crashing down for them.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I don't know. Do we want that a night game?
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Yes, yes we do. Okay, yes, absolutely.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
I think that if you're gonna if you're gonna take
the team on that's supposed to win the Big Ten.
Let's say they come in there and they're both undefeated.
Let's say Ohio State beat Texas, they rolled through November one.
You want that big crowd. You want the same thing
with past stators when they have a whiteout.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
That'd be wild.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Oh and I've been to the night game.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
They've been They've always been awesome. Remember twenty eighteen they
come back at night?
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Yeah, I mean that was a madhouse.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Yeah. James Franklin's still losing sleep over.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
That he's I don't think he's slept yet.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
And I don't know if winning the Big Ten matters anymore.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
I think Ohio State broke the system in year one
of the College Football Playoff. Buckeye just broke the system
and they finished fourth in the Big Ten, and then Washington.
Then they were an eight seed in the tournament, and
they played some really good teams. They beat Tennessee, they
beat Texas, Yep, they beat Notre Dame. I mean they
(08:00):
they squashed every contact with now No.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Look, I again, I'm still a traditionalist, and the idea
of winning the Big Ten conference is still a big deal.
And and I think it also puts you in a higher
placement for the playoff situation that if you're a champion,
you're going to be in one of the top four seeds,
and arguably because they've changed that, you may have an
easier road to get to the championship game.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Yeah, I suppose.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
I just it just kind of defeats it a little
bit for me, brought her down a little bit.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Give your way. We're thirty nine days away from Ohio
State football
Go over to the Legacy Retirement Group dot com phone
line and check in with political analyst David Grasso. David
is kind of a bombshell the other day Tulsea Gabbard
and the claims of the Obama era, the trees in
his conspiracy comes back to the Trump Russia collusion probe
after the twenty sixteen election.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
What's your take on this, Well, you know, Gabert alleges
that there was no strong pre election evidence that Putin
supported Trump. I can believe that there was a politicization
of intelligence. I'm just disappointed that she's deflecting from a
huge threat, which is of course always Russian interference in
our society. I think both can simultaneously be true.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Yeah, I guess, I mean it'll I guess it'll bear.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
You.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
We'll see what happens on this. But she's you know,
she's naming names.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
James Clapper from National Intelligence CIA director, John Brennan, FBI's
James Comy, Susan Rice, national security advisor. I mean, these
are big names in addition to Obama that's involved in this.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yeah. The only problem with what she's saying is if
she had come out and been like, listen, our intelligence
agencies have been politicized. We need more transparency around this process.
It's unfair to a sitting president. But treason is probably
the wrong word. The Constitution defines treason very narrowly. It's
levying more, giving aid and comfort to enemies, and political
(01:25):
misuse of intelligence. Even have proven in a court of law,
which there is no Department of Justice referral, there are
no indictments, et cetera, it probably doesn't qualify legally as treason.
So I believe this is probably the wrong label that
miss Gabbart's applying to this.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yeah, it could be. It depends on how important that is.
You want to call it treason, you want to call
it something else. I mean, if there is evidence that
this actually went down and it's wrong, no matter how
you slice it and dice it. Speaking to political analyst
David Grasso, So what's going to come of this, I
mean is will will somebody face charges on this.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Thing?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
So I don't think it's something that follows as legal action.
I think, unfortunately, we live in the era of the
politicization and weaponization of everything. You know, We've seen this
by both sides, and I think this is just another
case of you know, this is not surprising, right, wow,
that the political machinery in Washington is politicking. Politics is
(02:22):
always going to politic I think I'd rather see a
neutral intelligence agency that tries to keep Americans safe, and
I hope that future including president administrations, instead of using
it to punish political enemies or you know, destabilize the
next regime, use it to keep us faife and that's
(02:43):
all we can help for at this point.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Very good.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Appreciate your insight on that, your perspective at eight thirteen.
Political analyst David Grasso, appreciate your time. Have a good one, man.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
The Big Ten the meetings and media meetings are happening
in Vegas today, Yes, and the Big Ten now I
feel like it has like one hundred and twelve different teams,
but it's it feels that way. It's eighteen and it
used to be in Chicago, which made sense, but now.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
It's in Vegas, right.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I don't know if that's to appease some of the
West Coast teams so they don't have to travel so far.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
I mean, if you're Rutgers, you're probably not very happy.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Well, they probably so far away, they're like, this is
gonna be fun.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Well, that's true.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
They could do it from that stand.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Go, you know, go, you know, throw a couple of
bucks in the slots and go see a show and
have a Meal's right after the meetings.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
I found the other day.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Ryan Day is scheduled to talk this afternoon about his team.
I think you get six teams every day.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Yeah, yeah, because if there's eighteen total, yeah, so it'll
be six over the three day today, tomorrow and Thursday.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
So we'll break down what he has to say tomorrow
morning on the show. But Penn State, according to some
the preseason Big Ten writers, this is a very formal,
tight poll, but they have picked Penn State to win
the Big Ten this year.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I do believe it's.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
The first time in recent at least in recent memory, Yeah,
that Penn State has been at least pre season favorites
to win the Big Ten.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
I haven't seen that. I'll put to you that.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
I would say it's been thirty years because Penn State
when they first got in, remember you had Kerry Collins
and you had Dom Who's the running back that they had.
They had just an all world running back. He ended
up playing for the Bengals for look Carter. Okay, that
group ran away with the Big Ten the first year
they were there, when it became the Big eleven. Since then,
I can't remember.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Now they won the Big Ten in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
They were picked, but they were not picked, correct. I think,
so it's been an overall pick. I'll put money on
it that it's been a good thirty years.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
It sounds right to me, and I guess the reason
that these the sports writers are choosing Penn State is basically,
Drew Aller is arguably the best quarterback at this point
in the Big Ten.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
I have no argument here. He's got the most experience.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
It's July twenty second, right, but at this stage, I
mean he's at third year, he's he's got to be
twenty five with a family of four to four oh
one k by now, right.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Absolutely, he's got a Penn State retirement plan going on.
It's yeah, they're I mean they're fully loaded. Their running
backs are back, they're wide receivers, their defensive backs are back.
You're only missing Abdulla Carter who got drafted last year.
Outside of that, I mean this group they brought back
I think fifteen starters, so they they're doing the Ohio
State recipe from last year and implementing it this year.
(05:35):
So they're going to be strong. Ohio State, Oregon are
going to be your names. But you know, I think
UCLA and Washington should get thrown into the mix.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
A little bit too.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
I think they're going to be a lot stronger. I'm
not sure about USC yet. What was the one you
brought up earlier? Did you say Illinois?
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Illinois?
Speaker 1 (05:50):
So they have at Penn State one, Ohio State a
very close second. Penn State had eleven first place votes,
Ohio State had ten. Okay, then Oregon, Yeah, then Illinois
at four right, then Michigan rounding out the top five.
And I mentioned Illinois because they could be they surprised
people last season, yes, and so they could come back
(06:12):
and be very strong again this year.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
I would agree with that.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
I think, you know, from an Ohio State standpoint and
a team up North standpoint, if you look at there's
a lot of questions that still need to be answered.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Not that they're not going to be talented players.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
I mean there's been a lot of talk about Bryce Underwood,
that new quarterback who's already talking trash about the rivalry which.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Would be interesting.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
But Julian saying, is it going to be Lincoln Keenhols,
You know, is Ryandy going to bring Is he going
to answer that question tomorrow? I seriously doubt it. But
you know a lot of young talent in both places.
So from experience and talent level, Penn State right now
is should be on top that. I mean, they should
be that prediction anyway.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
And they will be here at the Horseshoe taking on
the Buckeyes November first, that.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Where it all comes crashing down for them.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I don't know. Do we want that a night game?
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Yes, yes we do. Okay, yes, absolutely.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
I think that if you're gonna if you're gonna take
the team on that's supposed to win the Big Ten.
Let's say they come in there and they're both undefeated.
Let's say Ohio State beat Texas, they rolled through November one.
You want that big crowd. You want the same thing
with past stators when they have a whiteout.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
That'd be wild.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Oh and I've been to the night game.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
They've been They've always been awesome. Remember twenty eighteen they
come back at night?
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Yeah, I mean that was a madhouse.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Yeah. James Franklin's still losing sleep over.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
That he's I don't think he's slept yet.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
And I don't know if winning the Big Ten matters anymore.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
I think Ohio State broke the system in year one
of the College Football Playoff. Buckeye just broke the system
and they finished fourth in the Big Ten, and then Washington.
Then they were an eight seed in the tournament, and
they played some really good teams. They beat Tennessee, they
beat Texas, Yep, they beat Notre Dame. I mean they
(08:00):
they squashed every contact with now No.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Look, I again, I'm still a traditionalist, and the idea
of winning the Big Ten conference is still a big deal.
And and I think it also puts you in a higher
placement for the playoff situation that if you're a champion,
you're going to be in one of the top four seeds,
and arguably because they've changed that, you may have an
easier road to get to the championship game.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Yeah, I suppose.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
I just it just kind of defeats it a little
bit for me, brought her down a little bit.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Give your way. We're thirty nine days away from Ohio
State football
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