April 2, 2025 • 11 mins
Ohio Attorney General and candidate for Governor covers a range of topics from the death penalty to the SAFE Act
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay on the Legacy Retirement Group dot com phone line,
checking in with Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost. Dave, you
don't call, you don't write, you don't come around where
you've been. How are you good to talk to you?
What's new your mother? She worries, Yeah, likewise, man, I
got it. I'm holding a letter from you to US
(00:21):
Attorney General Pambondi regarding the death penalty and what's the
deal here? So you have a problem with private CEOs
and pharmaceutical companies making decisions based on their politics, their ideology,
slowing down death penalties in the state of Ohio and
(00:42):
death row inmates and elsewhere, not allowing the proper drugs
to the folks who would carry out these executions. What's
the deal?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah, So they're basically saying, hey, we're not going to
sell this stuff to you, and if you know, for
death penalty purposes and if you use it that way,
we're not going to sell you anything, not for medicaid,
not for workers' comp We're just gonna cut you off
from all the medicine. And so far, the governor's response
has been, well, we can't risk that. Well, here's here's
(01:15):
an opportunity. Donald Trump, God bless him, put an executive
order on saying the Justice Department will help any state
that wants to try to get these drugs to get them.
And of course they've got their own supply. And so
that's what the letter was about. Pam, I read the
executive order, tell me what to do. I want some
(01:39):
of that. And so we're they're they're working through exactly
how to make that work, to implement the executive order,
but very hopeful that working with the new administration, we're
going to be able to go around those companies and
the states will be shielded from there, in my view,
improper and un awful restraint trade.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I guess how you feel about this depends on how
you feel about the death penalty. To begin with, the
last execution in the state of Ohio was in twenty eighteen.
The governor has postponed what three executions to down the line,
kicking the rock down the road there. Well, why do
we need the drugs. Let's switch to a different method.
(02:22):
And I think you and I have talked about the
nitrogen hypoxia method that maybe it's controversial, but it's effective.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah, Well, it's controversial only because the death penalty itself
is controversial. Look, Europe uses nitrogen hypoxia for assistant suicide.
If it was painful, if it was inhumane, you'll ohso refined.
Europe wouldn't be using it for that purpose. By all accounts.
(02:52):
You go to sleep and you stop breathing, it's literally
dying in your sleep. I don't know how we get
more humane than that. The critics just don't want anybody
to ever be put to death, no matter how heinous
they are. I was just talking to your producer and
he told me about something happened in his family, you know,
(03:15):
more than twenty years ago. But this guy not only
blew away his girlfriend, he put their kid in a
freezer with a pillow tight over their head. How is
it that that guy should be able to breathe all
of the rest of the breaths of his life while
those two innocent people are dead at his hand. I'm sorry,
(03:39):
my mind is not that open, and I suggest if
yours is, your brains might be linking out.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah, how about what I think you've got this piece. Yeah,
it's a lobotomy, is what I think those people probably need.
Speaking with Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost and we'll switch gears. Dave,
you've got this piece in the National Review. I'm going
to need some help on this. One is talking about
Ohio Safe Act, the Safe Act of course save adolescents
(04:05):
from experimentation. The situation here is day you've got an
overriding of the governor's veto of a band. So you've
got overriding of a veto, which by definition of veto
is an overriding function of a band. You've got to
help my pe brain out on this. There's like triple
negatives in this what's going on.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
So the legislature passes with a supermajority, passes this over
the governor's of veto, it becomes law. We defended it
in court. We really went all the way to the wall.
Five day trial put on a lot of medical experts
that contradicted the transgender industry point of view and said, look,
(04:49):
this is not a medical consensus. There's a lot of controversy,
there's a lot of ambiguity in these data, and this
is a good thing to do to protect minors. And
let me say this is a side everybody's entitled and
I'm including LGBTQ and transgender people. Everybody's entitled to be
(05:11):
treated equally before the law. Nobody should be discriminated against.
But when we're talking about kids, you shouldn't be doing
irreversible chemical and medical surgical procedures to change their identity
before they're grown up and can make a coherent decision.
That's what this law was about. It survived the first test.
(05:32):
We just got an appeals court decision that found that
the Healthcare Freedom Amendments at Ohio passed fifteen years ago,
prohibits this. So now we're off to the state Supreme Court.
I just am the piece you mentioned. I talk about
a game of legal twister. I don't for the life
(05:56):
of me see how that amendment ends up eliminating the
practice the regulation of the practice of medicine and Ohio.
But that was what the Tenth District telled and we
were off to the races.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah, we shall wait and see. By the way, if
you want to read this, it's a good one National
Review and the title is a bad game of legal twister.
Won't block Ohio's Safe Act, written by your Ohio's Attorney General,
Dave Yost. And it's just to me when it's when
you're talking about kids, Dave, it's common sense. I'm on
team common sense, and you know, don't do stuff to
(06:31):
kids that they don't know exactly how it's going to
play out in ten, twenty thirty years. You know, you
want to turn eighteen and go and do some of
these things, knock yourself out, But if you're twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen,
it's not your time.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
That's exactly right, and we do this on a lot
of things. You can't buy alcohol or weed or tobacco
even with your parents consent. You can't vote, even with
your parents consent, even if you're you know, have three
doctors and a nun testifying under oath that you're real
grown up and mature and smarter than most adults. You
(07:06):
can't have an enforceable contract against a minor, even if
the parent signs it. It's enforceable maybe against the parent,
but not against the child. Because kids don't know what
they don't know yet, they're still growing up, and so
we have these laws in place to protect them from
long term consequences and decisions that they're not competent to make.
(07:27):
I think that includes chopping off body parts or changing
your body chemistry and your.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Gender couldn't agree with you more. Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost,
You're a busy guy. You've got this work in you
got you know, you're writing letters to Pam Bondy and
you're also, oh, by the way, running for governor in
the state of Ohio. How do you balance your day
job with your campaign?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Well, I do the day job first, and then everything
else goes to the campaign. It's a busy time, but
I'm having the time of my life getting around Ohio.
And you know, it is invigorating to get outside Cap
Square and talk to real Americans out there.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
I would think just getting out of downtown Columbus would
be invigorating for a couple of days here and there.
So what are you hearing from people, Dave? As you're
shaking hands to get some babies, what are people telling.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
You, Well, honestly, there's a lot of uncertainty out there.
We're in a place where the whole world is pretty
fluid right now, and it's kind of hard to see
around the corner. So people, I think, by and large
are hoping for the best and trusting the president that
they just elected to do the right things in correct course.
(08:40):
Where that needs to happen downstream. The people are nervous,
and I think it's important more than ever for the
rule of law and our principles to guide us into
the future. That's the bedrock that even in stormy seas,
we're going to be Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
I don't know if you your ears were burning the
other day I brought your name up on the air
as we were talking about the governor of Mississippi just
assigned the eliminating the income tax in that state. Would
that be something you'd consider in the state of Ohio,
is phasing out the income tax if you were elected governor.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah. I've supported going to zero and the income tax
for a long time for veral simple reason. It's basic
economics that you get more of what you subsidize and
less of what you tax. If you get less of
what you tax, why would we tax income and end
up with less of that? So I think that this
(09:37):
is a thing that we can get to. Was already
cut its income tax in about half over the last
number of years. I think we should continue that progress
because the states that have gotten there are seeing robust
economic growth.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Yeah, it's not like we'd be the first stake to
do it. There's a plenty of examples out there, and
I won't belabor the point here, but what's the offset there.
I mean, in Mississippi, they crank up the gas tax
to offset the income that's not coming in from people's paychecks.
Is that something you look at here in Ohio.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Well, that's something you got to work with with the
Ohio General Assembly. You either need cost cuts or you
need to shift that revenue to a different source. At
the end of the day, we probably have some more
cuts that we can make. For example, Medicaid in Ohio
(10:30):
covers rectile dysfunction drugs. To put too fine a point
on it, I don't have an actual number. I'm having
to extrapolate from the national numbers. Ohio probably spends more
than a million dollars a year on little Blue pills.
I don't think that's what we the people really were
thinking about when we said there ought to be a
(10:52):
Medicaid safety that. I think we could probably just cut
that out and stop paying for that. And there's gonna
be more stuff like that. Before we start looking at
shifting revenue, let's look at the things that we don't
need to be spending money on.
Okay on the Legacy Retirement Group dot com phone line,
checking in with Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost. Dave, you
don't call, you don't write, you don't come around where
you've been. How are you good to talk to you?
What's new your mother? She worries, Yeah, likewise, man, I
got it. I'm holding a letter from you to US
(00:21):
Attorney General Pambondi regarding the death penalty and what's the
deal here? So you have a problem with private CEOs
and pharmaceutical companies making decisions based on their politics, their ideology,
slowing down death penalties in the state of Ohio and
(00:42):
death row inmates and elsewhere, not allowing the proper drugs
to the folks who would carry out these executions. What's
the deal?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah, So they're basically saying, hey, we're not going to
sell this stuff to you, and if you know, for
death penalty purposes and if you use it that way,
we're not going to sell you anything, not for medicaid,
not for workers' comp We're just gonna cut you off
from all the medicine. And so far, the governor's response
has been, well, we can't risk that. Well, here's here's
(01:15):
an opportunity. Donald Trump, God bless him, put an executive
order on saying the Justice Department will help any state
that wants to try to get these drugs to get them.
And of course they've got their own supply. And so
that's what the letter was about. Pam, I read the
executive order, tell me what to do. I want some
(01:39):
of that. And so we're they're they're working through exactly
how to make that work, to implement the executive order,
but very hopeful that working with the new administration, we're
going to be able to go around those companies and
the states will be shielded from there, in my view,
improper and un awful restraint trade.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I guess how you feel about this depends on how
you feel about the death penalty. To begin with, the
last execution in the state of Ohio was in twenty eighteen.
The governor has postponed what three executions to down the line,
kicking the rock down the road there. Well, why do
we need the drugs. Let's switch to a different method.
(02:22):
And I think you and I have talked about the
nitrogen hypoxia method that maybe it's controversial, but it's effective.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah, Well, it's controversial only because the death penalty itself
is controversial. Look, Europe uses nitrogen hypoxia for assistant suicide.
If it was painful, if it was inhumane, you'll ohso refined.
Europe wouldn't be using it for that purpose. By all accounts.
(02:52):
You go to sleep and you stop breathing, it's literally
dying in your sleep. I don't know how we get
more humane than that. The critics just don't want anybody
to ever be put to death, no matter how heinous
they are. I was just talking to your producer and
he told me about something happened in his family, you know,
(03:15):
more than twenty years ago. But this guy not only
blew away his girlfriend, he put their kid in a
freezer with a pillow tight over their head. How is
it that that guy should be able to breathe all
of the rest of the breaths of his life while
those two innocent people are dead at his hand. I'm sorry,
(03:39):
my mind is not that open, and I suggest if
yours is, your brains might be linking out.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah, how about what I think you've got this piece. Yeah,
it's a lobotomy, is what I think those people probably need.
Speaking with Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost and we'll switch gears. Dave,
you've got this piece in the National Review. I'm going
to need some help on this. One is talking about
Ohio Safe Act, the Safe Act of course save adolescents
(04:05):
from experimentation. The situation here is day you've got an
overriding of the governor's veto of a band. So you've
got overriding of a veto, which by definition of veto
is an overriding function of a band. You've got to
help my pe brain out on this. There's like triple
negatives in this what's going on.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
So the legislature passes with a supermajority, passes this over
the governor's of veto, it becomes law. We defended it
in court. We really went all the way to the wall.
Five day trial put on a lot of medical experts
that contradicted the transgender industry point of view and said, look,
(04:49):
this is not a medical consensus. There's a lot of controversy,
there's a lot of ambiguity in these data, and this
is a good thing to do to protect minors. And
let me say this is a side everybody's entitled and
I'm including LGBTQ and transgender people. Everybody's entitled to be
(05:11):
treated equally before the law. Nobody should be discriminated against.
But when we're talking about kids, you shouldn't be doing
irreversible chemical and medical surgical procedures to change their identity
before they're grown up and can make a coherent decision.
That's what this law was about. It survived the first test.
(05:32):
We just got an appeals court decision that found that
the Healthcare Freedom Amendments at Ohio passed fifteen years ago,
prohibits this. So now we're off to the state Supreme Court.
I just am the piece you mentioned. I talk about
a game of legal twister. I don't for the life
(05:56):
of me see how that amendment ends up eliminating the
practice the regulation of the practice of medicine and Ohio.
But that was what the Tenth District telled and we
were off to the races.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah, we shall wait and see. By the way, if
you want to read this, it's a good one National
Review and the title is a bad game of legal twister.
Won't block Ohio's Safe Act, written by your Ohio's Attorney General,
Dave Yost. And it's just to me when it's when
you're talking about kids, Dave, it's common sense. I'm on
team common sense, and you know, don't do stuff to
(06:31):
kids that they don't know exactly how it's going to
play out in ten, twenty thirty years. You know, you
want to turn eighteen and go and do some of
these things, knock yourself out, But if you're twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen,
it's not your time.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
That's exactly right, and we do this on a lot
of things. You can't buy alcohol or weed or tobacco
even with your parents consent. You can't vote, even with
your parents consent, even if you're you know, have three
doctors and a nun testifying under oath that you're real
grown up and mature and smarter than most adults. You
(07:06):
can't have an enforceable contract against a minor, even if
the parent signs it. It's enforceable maybe against the parent,
but not against the child. Because kids don't know what
they don't know yet, they're still growing up, and so
we have these laws in place to protect them from
long term consequences and decisions that they're not competent to make.
(07:27):
I think that includes chopping off body parts or changing
your body chemistry and your.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Gender couldn't agree with you more. Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost,
You're a busy guy. You've got this work in you
got you know, you're writing letters to Pam Bondy and
you're also, oh, by the way, running for governor in
the state of Ohio. How do you balance your day
job with your campaign?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Well, I do the day job first, and then everything
else goes to the campaign. It's a busy time, but
I'm having the time of my life getting around Ohio.
And you know, it is invigorating to get outside Cap
Square and talk to real Americans out there.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
I would think just getting out of downtown Columbus would
be invigorating for a couple of days here and there.
So what are you hearing from people, Dave? As you're
shaking hands to get some babies, what are people telling.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
You, Well, honestly, there's a lot of uncertainty out there.
We're in a place where the whole world is pretty
fluid right now, and it's kind of hard to see
around the corner. So people, I think, by and large
are hoping for the best and trusting the president that
they just elected to do the right things in correct course.
(08:40):
Where that needs to happen downstream. The people are nervous,
and I think it's important more than ever for the
rule of law and our principles to guide us into
the future. That's the bedrock that even in stormy seas,
we're going to be Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
I don't know if you your ears were burning the
other day I brought your name up on the air
as we were talking about the governor of Mississippi just
assigned the eliminating the income tax in that state. Would
that be something you'd consider in the state of Ohio,
is phasing out the income tax if you were elected governor.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah. I've supported going to zero and the income tax
for a long time for veral simple reason. It's basic
economics that you get more of what you subsidize and
less of what you tax. If you get less of
what you tax, why would we tax income and end
up with less of that? So I think that this
(09:37):
is a thing that we can get to. Was already
cut its income tax in about half over the last
number of years. I think we should continue that progress
because the states that have gotten there are seeing robust
economic growth.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Yeah, it's not like we'd be the first stake to
do it. There's a plenty of examples out there, and
I won't belabor the point here, but what's the offset there.
I mean, in Mississippi, they crank up the gas tax
to offset the income that's not coming in from people's paychecks.
Is that something you look at here in Ohio.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Well, that's something you got to work with with the
Ohio General Assembly. You either need cost cuts or you
need to shift that revenue to a different source. At
the end of the day, we probably have some more
cuts that we can make. For example, Medicaid in Ohio
(10:30):
covers rectile dysfunction drugs. To put too fine a point
on it, I don't have an actual number. I'm having
to extrapolate from the national numbers. Ohio probably spends more
than a million dollars a year on little Blue pills.
I don't think that's what we the people really were
thinking about when we said there ought to be a
(10:52):
Medicaid safety that. I think we could probably just cut
that out and stop paying for that. And there's gonna
be more stuff like that. Before we start looking at
shifting revenue, let's look at the things that we don't
need to be spending money on.
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