December 3, 2025 • 39 mins
The guys discuss the Trump administration's military strikes on drug boats in international waters. Fentanyl is a pathogen causing a mass casualty event in America every year. Nothing else has worked. This is the next escalation to protect Americans.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Well, general, I was one of two on last weekend
show OSU. I think we all kind of knew High
Stay was going to be in Michigan, and we felt
very confident. And as I recall, you had a very
high point spread. Yeah, you're in the forties, weren't you.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I was actually I think I actually got into it. Yeah,
I think it was forty five is where I thought
you were in the forties. But I did put in
a significant caveat which was if the weather turned bad,
that we were not going to be scoring in the forties.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Yeah, the weather, I was there. I was there with
my son and a handful of other people. We were scattered.
And the energy, I will tell you this, if you
didn't get a chance to go to ann Arbor for
this particular the game, the energy on this game inside
(00:53):
the hole, what do they call it, the Big House,
the Big Hole, the Big Hole, totally different than the
energy of prior games.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Did they ever get the O H I O going. Yes,
there there was all.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Through that very end, at the very end, yeah, fourth quarter.
But the energy for the High State Michigan game at
the Big Hole in the nineties was like you felt
like you were behind enemy lines right, You really like
if you were wearing scarlet and gray or in our
high state signage, you you you might get hit by
(01:32):
an object. This was this is a different This was
a different home game experience for Michigan and their first drive.
They were they got plugged in. But even even the
fans when they when Michigan scored first, they kind of
knew the train was coming. It was a different experience. Uh,
(01:56):
energy level.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Wise, they weren't going to beat us with field goals.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
The other So the big story I got completely wrong
is Lane Kiffin leaving Old miss to good LSU.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I thought I had him coming to Ohio State.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Okay, whatever, I had it. And if you're not a
regular listener to the show, the Coffels have a personal
investment in the SEC our son went to Missou. One
of our daughters goes to a miss she's a sophomore
and she's in the same sorority as Landry Kiffin, Lane's daughter,
(02:34):
So we kind of felt a little more kinship told
miss And there's a lot to love about SEC football.
There's a lot to love about Oxford Mississippi, and there's
a lot to love about Old Miss ReBs Lane Kiffen
try to be Lane Kiffin two point zero tried. And
(02:56):
I'm even wondering if this documentary that was made was
he and was part of the initiation of this documentary
to kind of rehab his image, because they did a
great job rehabbing his image. I was full on Lane
kiff In two point zero. My view is you when
(03:16):
you wake up every morning and you're in your your
boxers and briefs, you're a man. Then you step into
whatever clothes you're wearing for the day to become that person,
but you're a man first. And I had a very,
very difficult time believing that Lane kiff In two point
zero would allow the coach side of him to dominate
(03:40):
the man side of him. I do you understand there
are commitments you make these the a lot of these
these seniors he's been with since they were recruited, the underclassman. Clearly,
he's part of the recruiting process and the commitment that
you make to a team as a head coach. When
(04:03):
you're telling these guys in August, when you're almost killing
them that it's a team, it's a we. We shouldn't
even put your back, your name on the back of
the uniforms in the back of the jerseys. We're a team,
and they see yet how easy it was for him
(04:25):
to walk away, literally get on a plane on Oxford, Mississippi,
and land in Baton Rouge. A totally different the same
guy but having the high energy for Lsu just being
able to flip it like that.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Somebody respect right there, somebody said that the most that
the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
I just look, sure you can defend his decision, and
I know we're spending too much time on this, but
it just it baffles me. It just baffles me, especially
as a veteran criminal defense lawyer. I see many men
in their thirties, forties, fifties, and sixties they come to
see me. They've they're under investigation, they're under indictment, they're
being prosecuted. There's a baptism you go through when you
(05:14):
go through the valleys, there's a baptism you go through.
And if the process of being baptized, whether it's through
what lan Kiffen went through and what he claims to
have gone through, quit drinking, switched up his diet, found God,
(05:35):
starts doing yoga, found Lsu repairing, repairing his fractured relationships
with his family. Those are the things I see with
a man who is under indictment, who has left a
trail of family destruction behind him, gets indicted, and then like,
what do you want to do now? You want to
(05:56):
try to repair those fractured relationships and use this as
as an opportunity to show your rebirth or do you
want to just go back to your old skin? And
I have no respect for the men that won't change
their character when they claim they needed to change their character.
(06:20):
That's where I lost respect on link Kiffin. I want
to talk about one other another, not I want to
talk to you. Here's the title of the show. I think,
let's see where it goes. But here's the title I
have scribbled out on the top of my paper. Here,
Jack Bauer for President and twenty twenty eight night Now.
I called you last night and said we want to
talk about on the show, right, And I'd just gotten
(06:43):
done watching Jesse Waters talk about the Pete Hegseth getting
called out on these the strikes on the Venezuelan drug boats. Yes,
and we decided we would talk.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
About strikes on tailboats. Yeah, but you're talking about self defense.
You talk aut Jack Bower, You talking about Yucker, I'm
talking about the show to all four twenty four. Yeah,
we'll come back to Jack Bauer.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Okay, but we decided we're going to talk about self defense. Absolutely,
and is this self defense?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
It's like going to law school, It's like societal karate. Correct.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
So how much time do we have left in this segment?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Oh? Time, be time, my brother. We got about a
minut and a half.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
All right, So title the show. I've got it scribbled
up here. Jack Bauer for President in twenty twenty eight. He's,
you know, kind of America's James Bond, kind of that
Mission Impossible guy. But twenty four, for those of you
that are too young and didn't watch, it was one
of the greatest shows ever. There's a reflection of America's
anxieties in the early twenties, just like just like Double
(07:48):
seven was a reflection of the anxieties during the Cold War,
Mission Impossible the same now twenty four is a reflection
of America's anxieties and early two thousands, that being terrorism.
So you know, Keifer other Land is CTU counter Terrorist Unit.
Jack Bauer always going around in a black suburban or
(08:10):
a black tahoe.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Right.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
They always had like a gunkit in the back, always
had a go bag, and probably a Nokia flip phone
that was always dying. And it was an ends justify
the means approach. Now it's culture's upstream from Politics twenty
four first aired in September of twenty twenty one. I'd
go back and look at this.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
How prescient was that twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
No, I'm sorry two thousand and one, right, yeah, right, yeah,
it aired in the fall of two thousand and one.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I remember binge watching it right after my first son
was born in two thousand and five. We still had
to go to Blockbuster to get the DVDs.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
These were attacks from presidential assassination attempts, which I think
was the first season, bomb detonations, bioterrorism, I think cyber
warfare was in there, and Jack Bauer put us all
on notice. We seem to be okay with the hero
(09:11):
who's doing impossible things, things that need to get done,
and it's duty sacrifice, sacrifice, action over bureaucracy, and you know, delay, delay, right,
And the show didn't pretend the answer was cleaned. So
(09:32):
what does Jack Bauer twenty four have to do with
self defense and Donald Trump, Pete hex Seth and the
Venezuelan drug boats. Well, that's what the Jennal and I
are going to get into.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Next.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Brad Coffel for the Defense of the American People. Here
on six' ten does THE tvn welcome back for the
defense of The american. People I'm Attorney Brad, koffel and
that is the General Attorney Eric. Willison two housekeeping matters number.
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UH i think that's where. Regard that just feels natural to,
Me that just feels. Normal as we're talking about what feels,
(11:59):
natural rule and. Normal this is the we're going to
tie into these trump hegseeth taking out fentannel, caring militarized,
cigarettes cigarette. Vodes, yeah and let me let, me let,
me let, me let me start with. You and at
(12:20):
the end of last, section our last, segment rather we
talk about twenty four the show twenty, Four Jack bauer
steps in when the bureaucracy. Hesitates Jack bauer steps in
when politicians are too worried about, optics and uh steps
in when you know agencies are siloed and. Inefficient that
inefficiency at a national level between an, imminent deadly threat
(12:46):
to The american homeland and it not being met by
the individuals and agencies and groups that the people have
delegated it.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
To i.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
E the last The biden era where the cartels controlled
our southern border.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
In some apartment complexes cuttered around The United.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
States do the people have There's vice, president people have
a right to self? Defense the answer is, yes of.
Course but the inefficiencies where we've delegated so much of
our our so much of our preservation and safety to
government agencies at, local, state and federal. Level this, Fentanyl
(13:30):
i'm not even going to call it an, epidemic that
this this fentanyl poison bomb has exposed exactly what twenty four,
Exposed that the institutions meant to protect The american people
are too, slow too, polite too procedural to meet a
(13:52):
threat this. Lethal families are bearing their, children my family.
Included we lost a nephew a decade ago to a fentanyl.
Overdose police officers are carrying narkhan like. Tourniquets there's narkhan
in middle, schools there's narcan in sorority and fraternity.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Houses the police officers are dying if they get too
much ventanyl on their skin by.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Accident this is self defense now at national. Scale and
when the nation faces a threat that kills the way fentanyl,
kills the question is very, simple are we going to
treat this as a criminal nuisance or as an attack
on our?
Speaker 2 (14:34):
People and.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
The ability to defend yourself is the moral foundation of national.
Survival without the natural right to defend, yourself you cannot
have a.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Nation nations have, borders Said President.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Trump self defense is not a political. Slogan and how
long are we going to Allow americans to die At
World WAR ii? Levels if a hostile network general check
this out of a hostile network sends a backpacked nuke
(15:15):
TOWARD us, shores everyone ex Every american expects the president to, intercept,
interdict neutralize the, threat, or as my dear friend From
Seal team six, said prosecute the target and liberate his.
Soul there's now a weapon killing More americans annually Than.
(15:40):
Vietnam President trump has a natural, duty sworn, duty and
moral duty and constitutional. Duty it's not a, right it's a.
Duty these high speed boats From venezuela cross in The.
(16:03):
Caribbean these aren't glass bottom party. Boats these aren't family snorkel.
Excursions they're not fishing. Boats they're not fishing. Vessels use
your common. Sense this is a known delivery system for
a pathogen chemically engineered so powerfully that it creates mass
casually event across the country every. Year but instead of
(16:26):
it going off like a backpacked nuke At Ohio, stadium
taking vaporizing one hundred thousand people at once or seventy
thousand people at, once it does it every twenty four.
Hours we are way beyond federal drug law. Enforcement this
is a foreign based organization Killing americans at mass casualty,
(16:50):
levels and The president of The United states Under article.
Two it's not just a, right it is a rooted
in both natural law and constitute and protected. Constitutionally. GENERAL
i know you want to talk, now we're getting into the,
(17:11):
now we're getting into these international, waters international, law the
Hag war. Crimes, no, no, no, No america doesn't play
by those. Rules. General you want to jump on this
with our remaining and then we'll pick it up in
the next Seg.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Sure WHEN i went To Ohio, STATE i took classes
in national security policy, studies and the first thing they
teach you is to stop thinking like a citizen of
a country where there are laws and police and courts and,
jails and instead start thinking like a particularly tasty animal
without a phone to call nine one, one and you
(17:45):
are surrounded by creatures who want to eat you while
you are still alive and conscious of being.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Eaten but you have a professor to talk to you like. That, yes,
yes love.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
It so if you are somewhere In ohio and you
observe someone selling fentanyl to, kids you call the police
and let them take care of it and do process.
Applies but if you observe a cigarette boat moving at
high speed in the open ocean in the direction of THE,
us with bales of drugs on, board and you don't
call the international police because there is no such. Organization,
(18:19):
instead you, sink, burn and destroy. It and you do
that in the most inexpensive yet efficient way you. Can
but there is an. Alternative there is a peaceful solution
for those of you, leftist green haired hipsters and your
professors who want to deploy, well, yes who want to
deplore murder on the high seas and war, crimes go
(18:42):
rent a, boat get a bunch of life, jackets get some,
handcuffs and get some badges that Say International department interdicting ocean.
Trafficking that's idiot for listeners who like, acronyms and start
arresting these guys and bringing them to The United states for.
Trial they might kill a great many of you at
(19:02):
first until you get the hang of persuading them to
surrender to your unarmed. Approaches but to Paraphrase Lord farquaad From,
shrek that you or your lives are a sacrifice THAT
i am willing to.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Make all, Right, general well, DONE i guess we know
where you stand on. THIS i don't like international. Laws
The United states Of america and every citizen should issue
any mention of delegating any of our safety and security
to some international agency, agency especially someplace called THE. Hag all,
(19:45):
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the defense Of the, american people we take, current events
throw it into the history machine and figure out what
is kind of interpret, what's happening and there's certainly a lot.
To interpret we have diametrically opposed administrations on how to
(20:08):
deal with the pathogen called fentanyl that has taken Out
more Americans Than World. War two and there's still citizens
among us and leadership and elected leadership that thinks that
this is just a drug war and we have to
(20:29):
wait for, this poison this pathogen to reach our shores
before we can deal. With it the ability to be
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let me say. That again we're trying to give you, the,
historical constitutional even philosophical moral foundation to back stop.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Your instincts this one goes all the way Back To.
Thomas jefferson this goes back further.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
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Speaker 1 (23:05):
We go now we know that there are there there
are known drug. Trafficking highways they're not on, a map
but they are on. Federal maps you're not going to
Go on google maps and, a yeah you're not going
To go i've. Seen these there there are known narcotics.
Trafficking routes and If If google Maps And apple maps or,
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trafficking routes we probably are not having. This conversation there's
probably not much if this this this goes from a
fifty to fifty, you know fifty to fifty issue to
a ninety. Ten issue and the issue is military strikes ON.
(23:54):
Drug us you presume drug boats and. International waters there
are known. Delivery systems there are known highways for a
pathogen that is chemically engineered to be so powerful that
it can, it alone can create and does create a
mass casualty event across the country. Every year ventanyl is
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not a. Lifestyle problem this is a mass. Casualty threat
and it's not even a. Threat anymore it's it's a
last mass. Casualty event we are way beyond federal drug.
Law enforcement and if a foreign based organization Is killing
americans at mass, casualty Levels the president Of The, united
states commander In chief, article two has, the duty not just,
(24:43):
the right the duty to disrupt the threat at its point,
of origin if we have credible information to back. It
up whether one Agrees With donald Trump And pete hegseth
tactics is a, separate debate but the legal and philosophical
(25:04):
frame is. The same all of us have inherent natural
right to. Self Defense The united states has an inherent
right to, self defense and it is Memorialized in. Article
two international law even recognizes to some extent the ability
(25:29):
to interdict bad people engaged in mass. Casualty Attacks The
united States, of america nor any other nation, in general
is required to sit passively while its civilians. Are targeted
what If these what if this. Wasn't fentanyl but these
(25:50):
were dirty bombs being shepherded over TO the us. On
speedboats nobody would frame this as an interdiction of. Hazardous
materials it would be national self defense in, real time
and we would be looking for A jack bower or
a team of jack bowers to go get that stuff
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taken care of before it becomes a mass death event
that is repeated over and over and over by organized
networks of. Foreign Origin General.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Well, thomas jefferson who was. Pretty smart he did not
have to be particularly smart to recognize set up on, a, Hill,
yes manchello and that he did not have to be
particularly smart to recognize that he needed to send some
well armed swift frigates To the barbary Coast Of north
africa to start blowing pirates and their ships out of
(26:48):
the water which were PREYING on. Us vessels he didn't
try to arrest them and bring them back to Trial.
In america he just turned them into. Fish food and quite.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Right too and you know what happened, BEFORE that, i
mean right, after That the war of. Eighteen twelve PEOPLE
never i don't think anyone really totally Understands the war of.
Eighteen twelve we had a weak federal. Self defense we
had a weak, Standing army we were, in debt we,
were exposed And the brits came, back Socially, the navy
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and who won was that well. Regulated Militia first amendment
largely Created The united States. Of America The second amendment
largely defended and protected that young republic because the, armed
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citizenry which is the last line, of sovereignty the last
line of. Self defense if the federal government isn't going
to do it and the state government, is unable then
we're going to do. It, ourselves now there are, federal
laws state laws that you can't run around and engage
(28:04):
in that type of. Homicidal anarchy but there's. A line
there's a line at what point in time does self
defense extend to you don't have, to flee you can stand.
Your ground and at what point in time Does the
(28:27):
american citizen wind up being part of this war on
drugs or this network of? Foreign actors what we can
say sleeper cells that are, in here is there going
to be an event where sleeper cells are activated in,
the homeland inside. The heartland and now we're being asked
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to look for our state and. National protection we're not.
THERE yet i hope we never.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
See this interdicted enough of these. Drug boats but it
don't have to.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Worry about we're getting close to when you have people
on the left that are saying That that article two
Doesn't Grant president trump the authority to what. He's doing
that is straight. Up, false still it's, very dangerous, very
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DANGEROUS and i want to pick up on this threat after.
The Break, brad Kopfel the general For the defense Of The,
american people on six TO, m wtvm. Welcome back we're
talking about self defense and a very. Expansive view if
someone attempts to, kill you you have no obligation to
(29:41):
let him. That goes that's just. Natural law And the
american colonists learned hard on this principle because they lived
in a world where this distant government couldn't be relied on.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
For protection.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
And then, you know once we became, a republic the
sheriff might be a half a day or days. Right
away you've got, your barn you've got, your crops you've got.
Your family those are. Your responsibility and the natural law of,
self defense the one that you're, born with blended With
that protestant work ethic and the frontier ethos into, something
(30:16):
deeper very, very personal Very, very american the belief that
the household is sovereign against. Unlawful force now, sidebar here
we're not the part of the. Sovereign nation that there
are people. OUT there i see them in, the courthouses
primarily in the, rural counties where they tell the JUDGE
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that i didn't consent to. Your laws this is not
what we're. Talking about there's a trade off in every
civilized society and every nation between your right to self
defense and your duty to follow the laws and. The
books but self Defense in america not only was it.
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Natural right it was the state was created in part
to supplement, that right not. Replace it to. Supplement it
we all have a duty to preserve our. Own lives
and when the law gets as close as possible to
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protecting and preserving, that right where the government's laws are
there in such a way that you, feel protected then
society is going to be much. Better run when your
government drifts too far from, this truth people start to
(31:43):
feel unmoored because that natural law of self defense that
now is being delegated to the nation, or state and
you're consciously or subconsciously feeling exposed that you're not getting.
That protection it it causes problems, in society doesn't, in
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general it. Certainly does and this we're talking about something that.
Is instinctual And as america grew more urban and centralized,
and cities the legal system and the courts started to
come up with new ideas and, new theories such as
the duty to retreat that runs against a lot of,
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people's instincts and it also only makes sense and places
where police force is around. The corner but it's the political,
left's view Not just america's. Political left it is the
political left view that, the state not, the individual is
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the true guardian. Of safety and when, the cities primarily,
the cities came up with these new law, and ordinances
especially messing around with the law of, self defense that
was his. Significant shift and it's only been within the
last one hundred years. Or so it is a, major
shift and it caused a cultural Divide. In america on,
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one side, my side THE one i believe in a
free man stands. His ground the, other side this IS
what i call the status or. The left civilization means
trusting authority to handle violence at the end of. The
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day at the end of, the day when your government
fails to protect you and, Your family americans start, to
wabble and When the american society starts, to wabble that
instinct of self preservation kicks in that natural law as
(33:56):
a way of asserting itself when. Institutions weaken and this
is why we have in response to crime waves and
social fragmentation and. Political violence now we're finding the younger
generation is suddenly remembering something that's been inside them that
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they've not been. Listening to the state can, promise safety
but it cannot. Guarantee it stand your ground laws. Have
surged concealed carry. Laws surged now constitutional carry becomes the
law of. The land so in a, quiet way natural,
laws Resurfaced And donald trump is building. On that at the,
(34:40):
INTERNATIONAL level.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
I would say that, you know you cannot delegate your own.
Self defense you can incorporate other means of, self defending
but in, the end it is still. Your responsibility, you
Know when somali pirates navigate up to cargo ships Off
the Horn, of africa the cargo ships that survive don't
(35:03):
assume it's Just ilhan omar and her brother looking for
a ship's captain to. Marry, them instead the cargo ships,
open file open fire with fifty caliber crew serve. Machine
guns that's because pirates and brigands on the high seas
don't get constitutional. Due process and each video we make
of those boats blowing up is a lesson to others
(35:26):
free of tuition charges and, other fees to try to
stop taking things that aren't yours and stop trying to
sell harmful drugs to.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Our Children general, will Said but. I'm not we can't
call fentanyl a. Harmful drug it's. A pathogen it is
a passive pathogen that causes directly causes the death of
pick a number. Seventy thousand it's death headed in. Your
direction it's. Not abating it's, a pathogen.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
And you can't delegate your duty to defend. Against it
and we.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Have organized criminal networks that are certainly plugged into multile
multiple foreign actors.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Comes from China, through venezuela.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
And they're using, the cartel they're using the pre existing,
drug routes, gun routes human. Trafficking routes and.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
You want to put some sheriff's deputy in charge of
your safety from it when you see.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
A speedboat on one of these.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Known routes they're fishing for.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
The cokefish and there is credible evidence human intel what's
on that boat and what, They're doing and there's institutional
knowledge FROM the dea and DECADES of d eight with.
Their maps no one else is using. These routes do.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
We have those satellites for?
Speaker 1 (36:53):
A purpose how do we know it's only. Phentanylon there
why wouldn't it be a, Dirty bomb why wouldn't it be,
Some nukes why wouldn't it be a. Deadly virus you've
got known trafficking routes with human intel telling you who's
behind the cargo and who's behind the, funding it and
(37:16):
who's profiting. From this and we know the cargo isn't,
Just weed it's, Not this this, isn't whiskey this.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Isn't, moonshine well, you know they've got satellites that can
read license plates. From space they know who loaded those,
boats up and they know what dock they, left from
and they know what direction they're going.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
To have american leadership one of the top five hundred and,
thirty five, you know you get one hundred In the
senate for thirty five In the house to have a
half a dozen or more of the top five hundred
and Thirty five american leadership calling these war crimes and
(38:00):
threatening that When the democrats get back, in power they're
going to hold these men and women accountable.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
If they're not. PARDONED first i.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Don't know what more gets into. Seditious talk i've never
been a fan of anti. Sedition laws but these aren't
just citizens out on the public square protesting the Draft
At World, war one where that gentleman got eight years.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
In prison oh By.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Mister, debs yes these are elected representatives with federal.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Power trying to, tell soldiers sailors and marines don't obey.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Your orders so there are a lot of People in
congress that don't know, their history don't know, their laws
don't know the realities of, the world and unfortunately they're
speaking to and influencing a large chunk Of the. American
population and if that's, NOT seditious i don't know what
sedition is fo
Well, general, I was one of two on last weekend
show OSU. I think we all kind of knew High
Stay was going to be in Michigan, and we felt
very confident. And as I recall, you had a very
high point spread. Yeah, you're in the forties, weren't you.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I was actually I think I actually got into it. Yeah,
I think it was forty five is where I thought
you were in the forties. But I did put in
a significant caveat which was if the weather turned bad,
that we were not going to be scoring in the forties.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Yeah, the weather, I was there. I was there with
my son and a handful of other people. We were scattered.
And the energy, I will tell you this, if you
didn't get a chance to go to ann Arbor for
this particular the game, the energy on this game inside
(00:53):
the hole, what do they call it, the Big House,
the Big Hole, the Big Hole, totally different than the
energy of prior games.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Did they ever get the O H I O going. Yes,
there there was all.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Through that very end, at the very end, yeah, fourth quarter.
But the energy for the High State Michigan game at
the Big Hole in the nineties was like you felt
like you were behind enemy lines right, You really like
if you were wearing scarlet and gray or in our
high state signage, you you you might get hit by
(01:32):
an object. This was this is a different This was
a different home game experience for Michigan and their first drive.
They were they got plugged in. But even even the
fans when they when Michigan scored first, they kind of
knew the train was coming. It was a different experience. Uh,
(01:56):
energy level.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Wise, they weren't going to beat us with field goals.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
The other So the big story I got completely wrong
is Lane Kiffin leaving Old miss to good LSU.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I thought I had him coming to Ohio State.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Okay, whatever, I had it. And if you're not a
regular listener to the show, the Coffels have a personal
investment in the SEC our son went to Missou. One
of our daughters goes to a miss she's a sophomore
and she's in the same sorority as Landry Kiffin, Lane's daughter,
(02:34):
So we kind of felt a little more kinship told
miss And there's a lot to love about SEC football.
There's a lot to love about Oxford Mississippi, and there's
a lot to love about Old Miss ReBs Lane Kiffen
try to be Lane Kiffin two point zero tried. And
(02:56):
I'm even wondering if this documentary that was made was
he and was part of the initiation of this documentary
to kind of rehab his image, because they did a
great job rehabbing his image. I was full on Lane
kiff In two point zero. My view is you when
(03:16):
you wake up every morning and you're in your your
boxers and briefs, you're a man. Then you step into
whatever clothes you're wearing for the day to become that person,
but you're a man first. And I had a very,
very difficult time believing that Lane kiff In two point
zero would allow the coach side of him to dominate
(03:40):
the man side of him. I do you understand there
are commitments you make these the a lot of these
these seniors he's been with since they were recruited, the underclassman. Clearly,
he's part of the recruiting process and the commitment that
you make to a team as a head coach. When
(04:03):
you're telling these guys in August, when you're almost killing
them that it's a team, it's a we. We shouldn't
even put your back, your name on the back of
the uniforms in the back of the jerseys. We're a team,
and they see yet how easy it was for him
(04:25):
to walk away, literally get on a plane on Oxford, Mississippi,
and land in Baton Rouge. A totally different the same
guy but having the high energy for Lsu just being
able to flip it like that.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Somebody respect right there, somebody said that the most that
the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
I just look, sure you can defend his decision, and
I know we're spending too much time on this, but
it just it baffles me. It just baffles me, especially
as a veteran criminal defense lawyer. I see many men
in their thirties, forties, fifties, and sixties they come to
see me. They've they're under investigation, they're under indictment, they're
being prosecuted. There's a baptism you go through when you
(05:14):
go through the valleys, there's a baptism you go through.
And if the process of being baptized, whether it's through
what lan Kiffen went through and what he claims to
have gone through, quit drinking, switched up his diet, found God,
(05:35):
starts doing yoga, found Lsu repairing, repairing his fractured relationships
with his family. Those are the things I see with
a man who is under indictment, who has left a
trail of family destruction behind him, gets indicted, and then like,
what do you want to do now? You want to
(05:56):
try to repair those fractured relationships and use this as
as an opportunity to show your rebirth or do you
want to just go back to your old skin? And
I have no respect for the men that won't change
their character when they claim they needed to change their character.
(06:20):
That's where I lost respect on link Kiffin. I want
to talk about one other another, not I want to
talk to you. Here's the title of the show. I think,
let's see where it goes. But here's the title I
have scribbled out on the top of my paper. Here,
Jack Bauer for President and twenty twenty eight night Now.
I called you last night and said we want to
talk about on the show, right, And I'd just gotten
(06:43):
done watching Jesse Waters talk about the Pete Hegseth getting
called out on these the strikes on the Venezuelan drug boats. Yes,
and we decided we would talk.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
About strikes on tailboats. Yeah, but you're talking about self defense.
You talk aut Jack Bower, You talking about Yucker, I'm
talking about the show to all four twenty four. Yeah,
we'll come back to Jack Bauer.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Okay, but we decided we're going to talk about self defense. Absolutely,
and is this self defense?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
It's like going to law school, It's like societal karate. Correct.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
So how much time do we have left in this segment?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Oh? Time, be time, my brother. We got about a
minut and a half.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
All right, So title the show. I've got it scribbled
up here. Jack Bauer for President in twenty twenty eight. He's,
you know, kind of America's James Bond, kind of that
Mission Impossible guy. But twenty four, for those of you
that are too young and didn't watch, it was one
of the greatest shows ever. There's a reflection of America's
anxieties in the early twenties, just like just like Double
(07:48):
seven was a reflection of the anxieties during the Cold War,
Mission Impossible the same now twenty four is a reflection
of America's anxieties and early two thousands, that being terrorism.
So you know, Keifer other Land is CTU counter Terrorist Unit.
Jack Bauer always going around in a black suburban or
(08:10):
a black tahoe.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Right.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
They always had like a gunkit in the back, always
had a go bag, and probably a Nokia flip phone
that was always dying. And it was an ends justify
the means approach. Now it's culture's upstream from Politics twenty
four first aired in September of twenty twenty one. I'd
go back and look at this.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
How prescient was that twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
No, I'm sorry two thousand and one, right, yeah, right, yeah,
it aired in the fall of two thousand and one.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I remember binge watching it right after my first son
was born in two thousand and five. We still had
to go to Blockbuster to get the DVDs.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
These were attacks from presidential assassination attempts, which I think
was the first season, bomb detonations, bioterrorism, I think cyber
warfare was in there, and Jack Bauer put us all
on notice. We seem to be okay with the hero
(09:11):
who's doing impossible things, things that need to get done,
and it's duty sacrifice, sacrifice, action over bureaucracy, and you know, delay, delay, right,
And the show didn't pretend the answer was cleaned. So
(09:32):
what does Jack Bauer twenty four have to do with
self defense and Donald Trump, Pete hex Seth and the
Venezuelan drug boats. Well, that's what the Jennal and I
are going to get into.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Next.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Brad Coffel for the Defense of the American People. Here
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UH i think that's where. Regard that just feels natural to,
Me that just feels. Normal as we're talking about what feels,
(11:59):
natural rule and. Normal this is the we're going to
tie into these trump hegseeth taking out fentannel, caring militarized,
cigarettes cigarette. Vodes, yeah and let me let, me let,
me let, me let me start with. You and at
(12:20):
the end of last, section our last, segment rather we
talk about twenty four the show twenty, Four Jack bauer
steps in when the bureaucracy. Hesitates Jack bauer steps in
when politicians are too worried about, optics and uh steps
in when you know agencies are siloed and. Inefficient that
inefficiency at a national level between an, imminent deadly threat
(12:46):
to The american homeland and it not being met by
the individuals and agencies and groups that the people have
delegated it.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
To i.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
E the last The biden era where the cartels controlled
our southern border.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
In some apartment complexes cuttered around The United.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
States do the people have There's vice, president people have
a right to self? Defense the answer is, yes of.
Course but the inefficiencies where we've delegated so much of
our our so much of our preservation and safety to
government agencies at, local, state and federal. Level this, Fentanyl
(13:30):
i'm not even going to call it an, epidemic that
this this fentanyl poison bomb has exposed exactly what twenty four,
Exposed that the institutions meant to protect The american people
are too, slow too, polite too procedural to meet a
(13:52):
threat this. Lethal families are bearing their, children my family.
Included we lost a nephew a decade ago to a fentanyl.
Overdose police officers are carrying narkhan like. Tourniquets there's narkhan
in middle, schools there's narcan in sorority and fraternity.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Houses the police officers are dying if they get too
much ventanyl on their skin by.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Accident this is self defense now at national. Scale and
when the nation faces a threat that kills the way fentanyl,
kills the question is very, simple are we going to
treat this as a criminal nuisance or as an attack
on our?
Speaker 2 (14:34):
People and.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
The ability to defend yourself is the moral foundation of national.
Survival without the natural right to defend, yourself you cannot
have a.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Nation nations have, borders Said President.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Trump self defense is not a political. Slogan and how
long are we going to Allow americans to die At
World WAR ii? Levels if a hostile network general check
this out of a hostile network sends a backpacked nuke
(15:15):
TOWARD us, shores everyone ex Every american expects the president to, intercept,
interdict neutralize the, threat, or as my dear friend From
Seal team six, said prosecute the target and liberate his.
Soul there's now a weapon killing More americans annually Than.
(15:40):
Vietnam President trump has a natural, duty sworn, duty and
moral duty and constitutional. Duty it's not a, right it's a.
Duty these high speed boats From venezuela cross in The.
(16:03):
Caribbean these aren't glass bottom party. Boats these aren't family snorkel.
Excursions they're not fishing. Boats they're not fishing. Vessels use
your common. Sense this is a known delivery system for
a pathogen chemically engineered so powerfully that it creates mass
casually event across the country every. Year but instead of
(16:26):
it going off like a backpacked nuke At Ohio, stadium
taking vaporizing one hundred thousand people at once or seventy
thousand people at, once it does it every twenty four.
Hours we are way beyond federal drug law. Enforcement this
is a foreign based organization Killing americans at mass casualty,
(16:50):
levels and The president of The United states Under article.
Two it's not just a, right it is a rooted
in both natural law and constitute and protected. Constitutionally. GENERAL
i know you want to talk, now we're getting into the,
(17:11):
now we're getting into these international, waters international, law the
Hag war. Crimes, no, no, no, No america doesn't play
by those. Rules. General you want to jump on this
with our remaining and then we'll pick it up in
the next Seg.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Sure WHEN i went To Ohio, STATE i took classes
in national security policy, studies and the first thing they
teach you is to stop thinking like a citizen of
a country where there are laws and police and courts and,
jails and instead start thinking like a particularly tasty animal
without a phone to call nine one, one and you
(17:45):
are surrounded by creatures who want to eat you while
you are still alive and conscious of being.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Eaten but you have a professor to talk to you like. That, yes,
yes love.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
It so if you are somewhere In ohio and you
observe someone selling fentanyl to, kids you call the police
and let them take care of it and do process.
Applies but if you observe a cigarette boat moving at
high speed in the open ocean in the direction of THE,
us with bales of drugs on, board and you don't
call the international police because there is no such. Organization,
(18:19):
instead you, sink, burn and destroy. It and you do
that in the most inexpensive yet efficient way you. Can
but there is an. Alternative there is a peaceful solution
for those of you, leftist green haired hipsters and your
professors who want to deploy, well, yes who want to
deplore murder on the high seas and war, crimes go
(18:42):
rent a, boat get a bunch of life, jackets get some,
handcuffs and get some badges that Say International department interdicting ocean.
Trafficking that's idiot for listeners who like, acronyms and start
arresting these guys and bringing them to The United states for.
Trial they might kill a great many of you at
(19:02):
first until you get the hang of persuading them to
surrender to your unarmed. Approaches but to Paraphrase Lord farquaad From,
shrek that you or your lives are a sacrifice THAT
i am willing to.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Make all, Right, general well, DONE i guess we know
where you stand on. THIS i don't like international. Laws
The United states Of america and every citizen should issue
any mention of delegating any of our safety and security
to some international agency, agency especially someplace called THE. Hag all,
(19:45):
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throw it into the history machine and figure out what
is kind of interpret, what's happening and there's certainly a lot.
To interpret we have diametrically opposed administrations on how to
(20:08):
deal with the pathogen called fentanyl that has taken Out
more Americans Than World. War two and there's still citizens
among us and leadership and elected leadership that thinks that
this is just a drug war and we have to
(20:29):
wait for, this poison this pathogen to reach our shores
before we can deal. With it the ability to be
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let me say. That again we're trying to give you, the,
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Speaker 2 (21:15):
Your instincts this one goes all the way Back To.
Thomas jefferson this goes back further.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
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We go now we know that there are there there
are known drug. Trafficking highways they're not on, a map
but they are on. Federal maps you're not going to
Go on google maps and, a yeah you're not going
To go i've. Seen these there there are known narcotics.
Trafficking routes and If If google Maps And apple maps or,
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trafficking routes we probably are not having. This conversation there's
probably not much if this this this goes from a
fifty to fifty, you know fifty to fifty issue to
a ninety. Ten issue and the issue is military strikes ON.
(23:54):
Drug us you presume drug boats and. International waters there
are known. Delivery systems there are known highways for a
pathogen that is chemically engineered to be so powerful that
it can, it alone can create and does create a
mass casualty event across the country. Every year ventanyl is
(24:17):
not a. Lifestyle problem this is a mass. Casualty threat
and it's not even a. Threat anymore it's it's a
last mass. Casualty event we are way beyond federal drug.
Law enforcement and if a foreign based organization Is killing
americans at mass, casualty Levels the president Of The, united
states commander In chief, article two has, the duty not just,
(24:43):
the right the duty to disrupt the threat at its point,
of origin if we have credible information to back. It
up whether one Agrees With donald Trump And pete hegseth
tactics is a, separate debate but the legal and philosophical
(25:04):
frame is. The same all of us have inherent natural
right to. Self Defense The united states has an inherent
right to, self defense and it is Memorialized in. Article
two international law even recognizes to some extent the ability
(25:29):
to interdict bad people engaged in mass. Casualty Attacks The
united States, of america nor any other nation, in general
is required to sit passively while its civilians. Are targeted
what If these what if this. Wasn't fentanyl but these
(25:50):
were dirty bombs being shepherded over TO the us. On
speedboats nobody would frame this as an interdiction of. Hazardous
materials it would be national self defense in, real time
and we would be looking for A jack bower or
a team of jack bowers to go get that stuff
(26:12):
taken care of before it becomes a mass death event
that is repeated over and over and over by organized
networks of. Foreign Origin General.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Well, thomas jefferson who was. Pretty smart he did not
have to be particularly smart to recognize set up on, a, Hill,
yes manchello and that he did not have to be
particularly smart to recognize that he needed to send some
well armed swift frigates To the barbary Coast Of north
africa to start blowing pirates and their ships out of
(26:48):
the water which were PREYING on. Us vessels he didn't
try to arrest them and bring them back to Trial.
In america he just turned them into. Fish food and quite.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Right too and you know what happened, BEFORE that, i
mean right, after That the war of. Eighteen twelve PEOPLE
never i don't think anyone really totally Understands the war of.
Eighteen twelve we had a weak federal. Self defense we
had a weak, Standing army we were, in debt we,
were exposed And the brits came, back Socially, the navy
(27:22):
and who won was that well. Regulated Militia first amendment
largely Created The united States. Of America The second amendment
largely defended and protected that young republic because the, armed
(27:42):
citizenry which is the last line, of sovereignty the last
line of. Self defense if the federal government isn't going
to do it and the state government, is unable then
we're going to do. It, ourselves now there are, federal
laws state laws that you can't run around and engage
(28:04):
in that type of. Homicidal anarchy but there's. A line
there's a line at what point in time does self
defense extend to you don't have, to flee you can stand.
Your ground and at what point in time Does the
(28:27):
american citizen wind up being part of this war on
drugs or this network of? Foreign actors what we can
say sleeper cells that are, in here is there going
to be an event where sleeper cells are activated in,
the homeland inside. The heartland and now we're being asked
(28:49):
to look for our state and. National protection we're not.
THERE yet i hope we never.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
See this interdicted enough of these. Drug boats but it
don't have to.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Worry about we're getting close to when you have people
on the left that are saying That that article two
Doesn't Grant president trump the authority to what. He's doing
that is straight. Up, false still it's, very dangerous, very
(29:20):
DANGEROUS and i want to pick up on this threat after.
The Break, brad Kopfel the general For the defense Of The,
american people on six TO, m wtvm. Welcome back we're
talking about self defense and a very. Expansive view if
someone attempts to, kill you you have no obligation to
(29:41):
let him. That goes that's just. Natural law And the
american colonists learned hard on this principle because they lived
in a world where this distant government couldn't be relied on.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
For protection.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
And then, you know once we became, a republic the
sheriff might be a half a day or days. Right
away you've got, your barn you've got, your crops you've got.
Your family those are. Your responsibility and the natural law of,
self defense the one that you're, born with blended With
that protestant work ethic and the frontier ethos into, something
(30:16):
deeper very, very personal Very, very american the belief that
the household is sovereign against. Unlawful force now, sidebar here
we're not the part of the. Sovereign nation that there
are people. OUT there i see them in, the courthouses
primarily in the, rural counties where they tell the JUDGE
(30:39):
that i didn't consent to. Your laws this is not
what we're. Talking about there's a trade off in every
civilized society and every nation between your right to self
defense and your duty to follow the laws and. The
books but self Defense in america not only was it.
(30:59):
Natural right it was the state was created in part
to supplement, that right not. Replace it to. Supplement it
we all have a duty to preserve our. Own lives
and when the law gets as close as possible to
(31:23):
protecting and preserving, that right where the government's laws are
there in such a way that you, feel protected then
society is going to be much. Better run when your
government drifts too far from, this truth people start to
(31:43):
feel unmoored because that natural law of self defense that
now is being delegated to the nation, or state and
you're consciously or subconsciously feeling exposed that you're not getting.
That protection it it causes problems, in society doesn't, in
(32:09):
general it. Certainly does and this we're talking about something that.
Is instinctual And as america grew more urban and centralized,
and cities the legal system and the courts started to
come up with new ideas and, new theories such as
the duty to retreat that runs against a lot of,
(32:31):
people's instincts and it also only makes sense and places
where police force is around. The corner but it's the political,
left's view Not just america's. Political left it is the
political left view that, the state not, the individual is
(32:52):
the true guardian. Of safety and when, the cities primarily,
the cities came up with these new law, and ordinances
especially messing around with the law of, self defense that
was his. Significant shift and it's only been within the
last one hundred years. Or so it is a, major
shift and it caused a cultural Divide. In america on,
(33:16):
one side, my side THE one i believe in a
free man stands. His ground the, other side this IS
what i call the status or. The left civilization means
trusting authority to handle violence at the end of. The
(33:36):
day at the end of, the day when your government
fails to protect you and, Your family americans start, to
wabble and When the american society starts, to wabble that
instinct of self preservation kicks in that natural law as
(33:56):
a way of asserting itself when. Institutions weaken and this
is why we have in response to crime waves and
social fragmentation and. Political violence now we're finding the younger
generation is suddenly remembering something that's been inside them that
(34:18):
they've not been. Listening to the state can, promise safety
but it cannot. Guarantee it stand your ground laws. Have
surged concealed carry. Laws surged now constitutional carry becomes the
law of. The land so in a, quiet way natural,
laws Resurfaced And donald trump is building. On that at the,
(34:40):
INTERNATIONAL level.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
I would say that, you know you cannot delegate your own.
Self defense you can incorporate other means of, self defending
but in, the end it is still. Your responsibility, you
Know when somali pirates navigate up to cargo ships Off
the Horn, of africa the cargo ships that survive don't
(35:03):
assume it's Just ilhan omar and her brother looking for
a ship's captain to. Marry, them instead the cargo ships,
open file open fire with fifty caliber crew serve. Machine
guns that's because pirates and brigands on the high seas
don't get constitutional. Due process and each video we make
of those boats blowing up is a lesson to others
(35:26):
free of tuition charges and, other fees to try to
stop taking things that aren't yours and stop trying to
sell harmful drugs to.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Our Children general, will Said but. I'm not we can't
call fentanyl a. Harmful drug it's. A pathogen it is
a passive pathogen that causes directly causes the death of
pick a number. Seventy thousand it's death headed in. Your
direction it's. Not abating it's, a pathogen.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
And you can't delegate your duty to defend. Against it
and we.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Have organized criminal networks that are certainly plugged into multile
multiple foreign actors.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Comes from China, through venezuela.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
And they're using, the cartel they're using the pre existing,
drug routes, gun routes human. Trafficking routes and.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
You want to put some sheriff's deputy in charge of
your safety from it when you see.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
A speedboat on one of these.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Known routes they're fishing for.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
The cokefish and there is credible evidence human intel what's
on that boat and what, They're doing and there's institutional
knowledge FROM the dea and DECADES of d eight with.
Their maps no one else is using. These routes do.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
We have those satellites for?
Speaker 1 (36:53):
A purpose how do we know it's only. Phentanylon there
why wouldn't it be a, Dirty bomb why wouldn't it be,
Some nukes why wouldn't it be a. Deadly virus you've
got known trafficking routes with human intel telling you who's
behind the cargo and who's behind the, funding it and
(37:16):
who's profiting. From this and we know the cargo isn't,
Just weed it's, Not this this, isn't whiskey this.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Isn't, moonshine well, you know they've got satellites that can
read license plates. From space they know who loaded those,
boats up and they know what dock they, left from
and they know what direction they're going.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
To have american leadership one of the top five hundred and,
thirty five, you know you get one hundred In the
senate for thirty five In the house to have a
half a dozen or more of the top five hundred
and Thirty five american leadership calling these war crimes and
(38:00):
threatening that When the democrats get back, in power they're
going to hold these men and women accountable.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
If they're not. PARDONED first i.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Don't know what more gets into. Seditious talk i've never
been a fan of anti. Sedition laws but these aren't
just citizens out on the public square protesting the Draft
At World, war one where that gentleman got eight years.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
In prison oh By.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Mister, debs yes these are elected representatives with federal.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Power trying to, tell soldiers sailors and marines don't obey.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Your orders so there are a lot of People in
congress that don't know, their history don't know, their laws
don't know the realities of, the world and unfortunately they're
speaking to and influencing a large chunk Of the. American
population and if that's, NOT seditious i don't know what
sedition is fo
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