October 2, 2025 • 40 mins
The guys discuss the similarities of Protestant Reformation and Modern Political Reformation. Trump's "dressing down" to the UN put them on notice.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
In general. Did you get my notes I sent you
last night about today's show what I want to talk about.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I absolutely did.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Did you read them?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Not at all? So I'm in the dark.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Okay, we're prepared, yet again, any time we try to
prepare for a show, always a mistake, it doesn't work.
It's the thought that counts. However, did you see this
was a little while ago, several days ago, maybe a
week plus, Donald Trump spoke to the UN. I did, Okay,
any thoughts on that? Well, And there's the reason that
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I'm bringing this up. I saw. I want to know
what you saw. I saw something different, and I think
it's extremely important, and I think it's been lost over
the last week or two. What did you see?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Well, aside from the rather disturbing attempts to sabotage him
with cutting the power to the escalator while he was
midway up and making sure that his teleprompter didn't work.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
But I thought that was funny too, well, because all
you do forces him to go off script.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
And that is when he is at his absolute best.
And so all of their plans, when they succeed, ruined them.
And so Trump gets up there and basically warns all
of the other European countries that you are headed for
hell and a hand rested yes, and he is right. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
What he said transcended politics, It transcended nation states, It
transcended alliances. It just said, whatever country you're in right now,
it's going over the falls fast and I'm fighting it.
I've got it by the by the rains in the US,
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and you guys might want to start paying attention to me.
That's what I saw. He talked down, not in a
disrespectful way, but he talked to them as though, wake up,
you're all asleep. You're too busy listening to the people
that are writing you checks.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Part of being a friend is telling the truth to
your friends.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
And you're yes, correct. It was a bit, you know what,
it was an intervention.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
It was.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
It was a one man intervention on the rest of
the members of the United Nations. He said, stop paying
attention to the people writing you big checks, and start
paying attention to your people. Because even though we live
in the West, it doesn't mean we're out of the
woods for civil war revolutions exactly. It hasn't been that long.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
You can say, uh, oh, stop accepting checks. Where's the
money in that. Well, you can wonder that when you're
up against the wall.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I saw in the Chamber of the United Nations very
very dry tender. That just a little spark and it's
going to go. And I'm calling this show the Maga Reformation,
and it's a of course, it's a tip of the
cap to the Protestant Reformation. That's what I talk about.
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I want to talk a little bit about We're going
to put our intellectual tukes on. How do you think
you spelled tukes?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Tukes?
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Ye? They put the knit tight hat on their heads
when it's called outside.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Well, I know that in Lord of the Rings the
tukes were t u h's.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Well, get your intellectual tukes on. And this is for
the dinner table. There's dry tender all over the world
and and specifically here in the United States. In two
hundred and fifty short years, our nation has endured a revolution,
civil war, great depression, two World wars, boom and bust economies,
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but none of those have caused the corrosion of America's
institutions that actually got us through those wars and hard times.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Tracking I wouldn't say that our institutions got us through
I would say our people.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
There are our institutions that are filled with the people,
and I'll get to that. And as a result, as
a result, we had let's just say, the great worst
World War one, World War two. These were political systems
versus political systems, nations versus nations, allies versus axes, democracy
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and freedom versus fascism and authoritarianism. But in between World
War One and World War two, that interregnum you had Marxists, socialists,
pardon me, interbellum. You had the interregnum. The Marxists, your socialists,
your communists from eastern Europe brought their socialist Marxists and
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communist ways here.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I believe the word you're searching words clap trap.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
And sprinkled with anarchy, and they based it in New
York City. The Communist Party USA established its headquarters in Manhattan.
The schools, the schools there, the public schools there in
New York City. The non ivies your NYU, for instance,
been between World War One and World War two, your
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East during European Marxists, socialists, communists and their anarchists foot
soldiers fled Europe, settled on New York City.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Fled the disasters that their ideologies sprung upon them.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Well, let's talk about that their ideologies that I've heard
this note multiple times over the years, that fascism is
a response to communism.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Nonsense. They compete for the same people, they're so close together.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Chicago became a center for radical unionism. You have the
industrial workers of the world, the Wobblies. In Chicago. You
had your steel, meat packing, your rail industries, and it
was fertile ground for strikes and Marxist organizing. Same thing
up in Detroit with Big Auto. The Great Depression made
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it a lot easier to recruit the unemployed workers, and
the Great Depression gave social communism momentum. It jumped the
heartland largely except maybe Kansas City and some other industrial cities.
Land in San Francisco and the West coast ports, your
dock workers, the Congress of Industrial Organizations, the CIO, and
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then it moved south along the coast into Hollywood. Actually,
I think it probably hit Hollywood very early, probably back
in the twenties and thirties. Your writers and directors and
actors joined popular front groups and there was a Marxist, socialist,
communist infiltration of the guilds and screenwriting circles. This, of
course triggered Hollywood Blacklist and McCarthy Nixon House on American
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Committee hearings in the late fifties. But back to New
York City, it had the best schools in America. It
had the money, it was the home of Wall Street.
It educated those immigrant children, as our American promise has,
we will teach you. But our teachers were replaced by
their teachers. Our ideas were replaced by their Eastern European ideas.
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And those public universities like NYC or I'm sorry NYU,
and then that IV Columbia really had the strong Marxist
study groups, sympathetic faculty that wrote and taught these far
left ideas. That's where the Frankfurt School relocated when it
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fled Germany. Herbert Marcuse, we've talked about him a handful
of times. So this is all happening while we're fighting
in Europe and Japan, while we're fighting in Korea, while
we're fighting in Vietnam. And Vietnam sparked, of course in
the sixties. It was Berkeley and then this Marxism, which
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is economic, you know, trying to level the economic playing
field between the worker and the owners of the industry
merged with feminism and race theory, and next thing you know,
it expands even more. It's showing up at Madison, Wisconsin,
huge campus radicalism. In the seventies you had the New Left,
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the Democratic Society, the SDS or students I goes, but
students for Democratic Society SDS, you're black panthers weather underground.
Marxism became the foundational tool for so many of these
other movements, and it started in the universities and the sociology, philosophy,
and literature departments. Then Reagan comes along, collapse of the USSR,
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and that discredited the Orthodox communism, but it left behind
a lot of Marxism and our culture in our schools.
And now we are dealing with the second generation, maybe
even the third generation of that indoctrinations what we call it,
we call it indoctrination. Bernie Sanders and AOC have popularized this.
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Now Mamdani is gonna run in New York City, but
looking good for a mayor after the break that's going
to build on this what's happening. There's a Maga reformation
that I believe we're going to tie it back to
that United Nations speech with Trump and the world leaders
after the break on. Brad Kaffel, that's the General. That's
the sixth ENDVN welcome back for the defense of the
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Speaker 1 (10:17):
General. Back to what we saw in the United Nations
with Donald Trump and the address that the dressing down,
if you will, of those world leaders and diplomats basically
saying you're going over the falls very quickly, and you
might want to pay attention to what I'm doing in America.
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This is not politics as usual, And I agree with them.
There was a difference when he was talking. I saw
it in their eyes. They were listening. They knew what
he was saying was true. The problem is that their
bread is buttered elsewhere, and he's telling them, you're going
to run out of butter for your bread. It's just
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a matter of time. They will come for you as well.
What you need to do is protect the the your institution,
protect your nation rather and the only system that works
is making sure that people are free, that there is liberty,
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and that you have a standard of morality and law
and order in your nation. You have to have all those.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Absolutely, you have.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
To have all those. And by the way, ours is
rooted in Judeo Christianity. Uh, you know the book, the
Old Book.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
And there's a reason they put Leviticus on the liberty bell.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
So what we what do we see here? We have conservativism,
which I'm now calling Americanism, and I think we're capturing,
we're recapturing. We're rescuing a lot of people on this
in the center and the center left. We are They're
coming around. John Fetterman, my dark horse is not only
coming around. I think he's I think he's in the tent.
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It's Americanism.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Well, and the tent, interestingly, has moved a little bit.
Where the Democrats were in the early eighties is where
Trump is now. And of course they would all these
these these purple haired people, if they were to go
back in a time machine, would go back into the
eighties and pointed Democrats and scream fascist.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, and they probably also would would be encouraged to
get professional help. We've normalized a lot of mintal illness forcibly. Yeah,
there's folks that really really need help on both sides.
But I'm not here to lob ad hominem attacks on
people on either one of the polls. This is no
longer conservatism responding to illiberalism. This is not Maga versus elites.
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This is Americanism versus the scourge that is plaguing the
world in every nation. Christianity is responding to the atheists
and agnostics that have been living a self indulged, narcissistic life.
And Charlie Kirk was assassinated for that. You only kill
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the people that are speaking out against you and are winning.
Those are the people that lose their heads.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Those are historically a sure sign they've lost the argument.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Historically, the guillotine, the hangman's news, the firing squad.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
The ditch.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yeah. And so Christianity is responding to atheists and agnostics.
I would, although I'm not Jewish, I would submit that
Judaism is as well. I would imagine that there are
Muslim brothers and sisters, as fellow human beings that would agree.
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This is not an anti Muslim, anti Christian, anti jew.
This transcends that this is a response to an evil
that's empty, that is, that has no soul, that has
no boundaries, and the people that it collects and empowers
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are also empty, and they need something and they're finding
it in the wrong place.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Well, you know you say that, And remember our friend
Andrew Breitbart said that politics is downstream from culture, and
I would say culture is downstream from religion.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Correct. So in the twentieth century, our American culture and
our American institutions, we're strong enough to immunize our economic system,
our political system from those who want to completely destroy
America and replace our system with another system. But those
institutions general have been undermined, they've been weakened, and some
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have actually been captured by the far left. Number one,
what Charlie Kirk was all about the institution of family.
Marriage rates decline, divorce, single parent households, birth rates are
falling below replacement. Civic involvement. We saw this with Columbine.
The Rob Putnam's book Bowling Alone talked about this in
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the nineties. Ptas rotaries, churches, bowling leagues all down. Religion,
church attendance, and religious affiliation may be as low as
it's ever been in America. Education, the institution of education,
probably the most important institution, declining in public trust in
our schools, the failing of our public school systems, especially
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in our big cities, and now even spreading into our suburbs.
You're getting your best education now in your charter schools,
your homeschools, and your exerbs. But we have falling performance
scores in K twelve that belie the function of the
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Department of Education itself.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
And the falling performance is also joined with the fact
that the standards are dropping too. We're not even keeping
up with lowering standards.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
No, you change the standards to improve the scores. The
news I can't believe I'm saying this, but you used
to watch the National News at six point thirty, and
you assume what Harry Reasoner was saying was true. Well,
I don't think Harry Reasoner was lying to us. I
don't think Tom Brokaw was lying to us. I just
think that they were fed information from their sources within
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the whether it's from the Pentagon, the State Department, Treasury Department, whatever,
and they were fed information. But legacy newspapers and broadcast
networks have lost all journalistic integrity, all integrity. They've lost
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broad trust and sixty Minutes, which used to I mean,
I just thought sixty Minutes was the Citadel.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Turns out it was a big scam.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
It's not. It's not. It is absolutely the pipe organ
for the administrative state.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
And for decades, for decades, they've been using Hollywood techniques to,
you know, to slant the story. You know, the person
that they don't like. The close up of that you
can see the pores on them person's skin, whereas the
person who is you're supposed to like, they have makeup
on and all this sort of stuff. It's just it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
I saw on one of the most recent Sixty Minutes,
they had the governor of Colorado I'm sorry Governor of
Utah and showed a commercial camp commercial where he is running.
In the commercial, I don't know if you saw this,
you don't watch sixty minutes, but the governor of Utah
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was running and his opponent, the Democrat. They are featured
in the same article, same commercial political ad saying we
can agree to disagree. We're going to do this a
new way, and sixty minutes specifically called out basically Maga
and Stephen and Steve Bannon and saying that you know
that somehow Maga and Steve Bannon and the right is
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against cooperating with the Democrats. That was the slant from
the story. The problem is that those institutions that we
have heavily relied upon as people to get our information,
to get our truth, to form our opinions, have been
captured by the far left, including our I think our
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banks in Wall Street we saw well that was actually
more I think the merger of the far left in
big government. And so if the institutions which have traditionally
been the walls of fortress America have been breached by
the far left, by socialism Marxism, that brings us to
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one of my favorite historical figures, Winston Churchill, who wrote
a book called While England Slept And after the break,
we're going to talk about the parallels between what Winston
Churchill wrote in the thirties against what we're saying in
the twenties ninety years later. All Right, this is for
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got a picture of me from fifteen years ago.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
It was very impressive. Actually, what we have now.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Not changing that picture. Okay, America has fought wars abroad
uniform on uniform, military equipment on military equipment. Now we
have battles here and that's the non uniformed versus non uniformed.
This is not politics as usual. Donald Trump went to
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the United Nations recently and talked to those world leaders
and transcended politics and said, your nations are falling apart,
going over the falls. You're going to reach a point
of no return, and you better listen to what I'm saying,
and you better pay attention to what I'm doing. This
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reminded me of While England Slapt, written by Winston Churchill's
actually a collection of essays that he'd written in speeches
that he'd written in the preceding decade as he watched
fascism rise turn into Nazism and the mass exodus of
Europeans who were fleeing because they couldn't speak in public,
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and they couldn't hold property, and they couldn't have their
businesses and.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Didn't want to live in concentration gams.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Yeah, so While England Slept Winston Churchill. The title says it,
all right, you're fat, You're happy, you're not paying attention.
You're fat, you're happy you're not paying attention. And are
there are dark forces that are brewing. And if you
think that they can't jump the channel and get to us,
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they can. They're arming up, they're organizing, they have funding
out coming from outside their country. And yes, the Treaty
of Versailles crushed them into and put them into a
corner where they really for their own survival we forced
them into the spot. Well, what's happened in America since
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the fall of the Soviet Union's very very similar. We
have not been paying attention. We have been polite society.
We've just assume that the Atlantic and the Pacific will
protect us. The problem is that these institutions that have
traditionally protected us from foreign and domestic change agents have
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been captured and the legitimacy of the entire system that
Donald Trump and mag have been railing against that he
calls the deep state, many people call the deep state
or the administrative state. There's a reformation happening in America,
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a revivalism will That kind of reminds me of the
Protestant Reformation when Martin Luther hammered that those words onto
a church door in Wittenberg, Germany in the fifteen hundreds.
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Martin Luther had no army, no treasury, no money, no
political party. All he had were words in a new technology,
the printing press, and those words dropped into an environment
that was tender, dry with resentment. The problem was, at
the time, the church was selling forgiveness. You could pay
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money and get forgiveness, all right. It was the indulgences
and the Catholic Church for a thousand years had a
near absolute monopoly on spiritual truth, and it claimed the
only path that salvation was through the Church. It controlled
the scripture, the interpretation. It was all written in Latin.
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And Martin Luther put the hammer on that. Literally he
translated the Bible to German, and then he spoke and
wrote in the jargon of the common folk five hundred
years later. And I'm not saying Donald Trump is Martin Luther,
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but I'm just saying the similarities are odd, eerie, unusual.
You wouldn't think this Donald Trump like Martin Luther. The
blunt voice a new technology, not the Gutenberg Press, but Twitter.
Both men challenging the legitimacy of the most powerful empire
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during their time. Both men defiant, both men put on trials.
Both men refused to apologize. Donald Trump is not shattering
He has shattered the rituals of deference on which the
permanent blob state depends. Millions of millions of Americans now
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are not willing to follow the rituals of just trusting
what you're told by your government. And normally the Conservatives
are the ones that are trusting what is being said
by the institutions. And it was the quote liberals or
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far left that were the radicals. Now the radicals are
center right and right.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
What is it The who's saying the beards have just
grown longer overnight? Is the who?
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Yes, I can't probably figure that out. But each each man,
Donald Trump and Martin Luther have have challenged and intrench
and right now I'm sure there are people going on,
my guy, I can't believe you're actually comparing Donald Trump
to Martin Luther. It's a reformation, it's an analogy. It's
a reformation cracking the monopoly on power. And how they
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did it. They were able to bypass the intellectual bodyguards,
that being the high priests and the Latin Bibles.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Oh, Reagan did it to some extent in the eighties.
He was able to command television because of his presence.
If you didn't lead with Ronald Reagan and what he
said that night, you were losing ratings.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
You need three things. You need three things. Number one
is you've got to have a medium to get around
the intellectual bodyguards of the permanent state state. Number two,
you've got to be able to speak in the language.
You've got to translate what's happening. You've got to have
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the intellectual capacity to translate what's happening. And number three,
you've got to use ordinary language that people understand. Plain, sharp,
often crude. Martin Luther was crude, he was plain, he
was sharp, and his words provoked a ferocious backlash from
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the church. Donald Trump's words have provoked a ferocious.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Backlash from the globalists, from.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
The institutions that he's attacking, from the District of Columbia
to the universities, the media, and just as the printing
press democratize knowledge and Martin Luther's writings became best sellers, Trump,
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with a smartphone in his hand, is able to speak
directly to tens of millions of people with snippets that
are instantly share.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
It's brilliant, dude, social media.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yeah, but he's not just he's not talking at an
intellectual level. He's talking at a shareable jargon level. He
doesn't talk, he doesn't copy and paste out of think tanks.
He talks to the construction workers, the people that work
in diners.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
The taxi drivers.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
He talks Yeah, crooked Hillary, low energy, Jeb little Marco right.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah, not not so little anymore.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
By the way, Yes, and I like Marco crude, juvenile, Yes, unforgettable,
but don't we sometimes?
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yes? Right?
Speaker 1 (28:37):
And as a result, Donald Trump has put a wedge
in between the elites and their ability to communicate with
the people. And that plain style has become a weapon
against the elite. And that's where we are. And Donald
Trump is himself an embodiment of defiance against the elites
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who have stopped listening to the people. So back to
the United Nations, there's Donald Trump, and he's saying, better,
start listening to your people. But it has to be
rooted in morality, law and order, and it's got to
be based upon a system that is very close to
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what our founding generation came up with.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Where did all that come from?
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah, we're gonna get to that after the break. I
think America is entering an age of pluralism. What does
that mean?
Speaker 2 (29:38):
I don't really like that word plurally.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
I'm not sure does anyone really know what that means?
Speaker 2 (29:42):
I know it means multiples.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
It came out of it came out of my mouth,
enteredg of pluralism. So red and blue states are drifting
further apart. Media ecosystems, not only contradict one another. They
have two separate realities. You watch seeing and you think that,
what's that guy's name, Robinson killed Charlie Kirk. You watch
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the other the right right of center media outlets or
the outlets, and it turns out that, well, no, it's
this guy who pushed this on his push this on
his glasses, or pushed this button here and it caused
a Lavalier mike to explode up into Charlie. You know,
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there's two separate worlds. Facts themselves have become tribal in
the state, and our institutions that have traditionally had the
monopoly of consensus for democracy to survive, has collapsed into
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rival camps, each convinced the other as illegitimate. I'd say
multiple rival camps. But you know what, just as Martin
Luther in the Protestant Reformation gave an avenue to millions
of other men and women who didn't want to bend
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a knee to any other man that believed that their salvation,
you didn't need to pay for forgiveness, and you didn't
need to go through a particular other human being had
a giant audience. So does what Donald Trump's been saying
mag's audience is not just for the heartland, it's for
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the world. And that's when Donald Trump went to go
to the United Nations, he was talking about this and
the Enlightenment principles that America was found upon was born
in the struggles of the Protestant Reformation era. Were right
back to where we started. And what followed after Reformation
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in Europe was decentralization. Your authority had to be earned,
not imposed. Truth will be debated and contested, not dictated,
not told to you. Legitimacy political legitimacy flows is going
to start to flow upward from our local communities, not
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downward from a distant DC or New York or Ivy leagues.
And just as Martin Luther hammered those that his ninety
five theses to the door of the church in Wittenberg,
Donald Trump's done the same thing. Whether you like him
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or not, hate him, despise him, love him, doesn't matter.
This hammer has struck, the crack is spreading. The monopoly
on news is gone, The monopoly on state power with
the elites is gone, in good riddance, And what comes
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next is up to us.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
General thoughts, Well, there's always going to be something inherently
attractive to the majority of people, where the facts are
what you decide after hearing both sides. There's for so long,
going back into the forties, fifties, and sixties, there has
been this cabal that's telling you, we will tell you
what had happened, and we will tell you what to
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think about. And indeed they even controlled the news by
not telling you what to think about something. Some stories
were just buried. And that's the most sinister editorialization of
all because you don't even know what happened. But today,
with social media, which is the new printing press of
our day, just like TV was the new printing press
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for Reagan, just radio was for FDR exactly, and just
like the printing press was for Martin Luther. All of
them took advantage of these new ways to communicate, to
reach more people and say, look, you get to decide
what the facts are. And the facts, as John Adams said,
are stubborn things, and they will eventually convince the most
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people of the most things.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Yeah, what's undefeated is freedom and liberty. What has suffered
loss after loss is Marxism, socialism, communism, and America first
had her big scare of whoa. More and more Americans
are paying attention to this communism thing. In the twenties,
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the Russian Revolution in nineteen seventeen triggered the first Red
Scare in the early nineteen twenties here in the United States,
it came with a wave of labor strikes and anarchist bombings.
The precursor to the FBI, Herbert Hoover j Edgar Hoover
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launched Palmer raids what are known as Palmer Raids, thousands
of arrests and deportations of suspected radicals. The Communist Party
USA was founded right after World War One. The nineteen thirties.
The Great Depression created very, very fertile ground for Marxist
critiques of capitalism. Communism grew, the Party grew. Leftist writers
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and artists became more prominent in the forties and fifties.
It was the temporary alignment of the United States and
the Soviet Union during World War Two, but the Cold
War quickly made communism the ultimate enemy. Joe McCarthy and
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Dick Nixon chaired the House on American Activities Committee, and
they went overboard. They threw the baby out with the bathwater.
They were onto something. There was communism in Hollywood, government, academia,
and labor, but it just went too far. And then
in the sixties Marxist thought re emerged in the new
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left Students for Democrat Society SDS, Black Panthers, there was.
They linked up with civil rights, they linked up with feminism,
they linked up to opposition to the Vietnam War, and
the Marxists that that train car was along side or
linked up to other very legitimate train cars.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Hello Travelers.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
And then in the eighties and nineties it was a
short decline as the Soviet Union showed that orthodox communism
is not going to work. I think most Americans thought
that communism was gone dead over and labor unions, which
were overtly Marxists based, shifted over to collective bargaining agreements.
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But then this Great this Forever War, the Great Financial
Crisis of eight, Bernie Sanders, the younger generation, the the
the chill ldren that were born into a therapeutic environment
have become very open to socialist ideas.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
There's a sucker born every moment, said P. T. Barnum.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
You know when you don't have when when you're when
a lot of your other needs are met. You're going
to find something controversial when you're young. You want to
yell about it, right, you gotta have something yell about.
But Black Lives Matter is Marxist theory. Critical race theory
is Marxist theory. Everyone. It's a presser versus oppressed And
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if you wait long enough, you can be an oppressed
person too. You can be part of an oppressed class. Well,
that's not America, that's not Americanism, that's not the Protestant
work ethic, that's not what came out of the Protestant Reformation.
So just as Marxism never took root as a mass
political party of the United States as the way it
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did in Europe and Asia and Central America, its ideas
have repeatedly resurfaced, and now to the point where you
know what, it's entrenched in the Democrat Party and now
those in the center, center, left, center right are going
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to need to rebuild our institutions from family first, community, religion, education,
local government, which will lead up to better state government,
which will eventually lead up to a better federal government.
Media will be turned off. We're going to stop listening
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to you, And that's what happened. We're gonna stop listening
to your crazy ass stuff. And we're not going to
tolerate bombing nations and countries and peoples we have never
heard of. We have no beef with and our financial
institute now twit's next. Americans need to wisen up to
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the Ponzi scheme that is our economy and how many
people in corporations live on margin, live on credit. It's
just a matter of time. It's just a matter of time.
Get your financial house and order, get your family in order,
get to church and stand strong against the people that
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want to undermine your family, the family, church, law and order,
and get yourself out of debt too.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Dave Ramsey has a lot to say about that.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Downsize all right, We're done. Thanks for listening. Really appreciate it.
Share the show, especially to the younger generation. I'm Brad
Copfel and that's the general and this is for the
defense of the American people.
In general. Did you get my notes I sent you
last night about today's show what I want to talk about.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I absolutely did.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Did you read them?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Not at all? So I'm in the dark.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Okay, we're prepared, yet again, any time we try to
prepare for a show, always a mistake, it doesn't work.
It's the thought that counts. However, did you see this
was a little while ago, several days ago, maybe a
week plus, Donald Trump spoke to the UN. I did, Okay,
any thoughts on that? Well, And there's the reason that
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I'm bringing this up. I saw. I want to know
what you saw. I saw something different, and I think
it's extremely important, and I think it's been lost over
the last week or two. What did you see?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Well, aside from the rather disturbing attempts to sabotage him
with cutting the power to the escalator while he was
midway up and making sure that his teleprompter didn't work.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
But I thought that was funny too, well, because all
you do forces him to go off script.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
And that is when he is at his absolute best.
And so all of their plans, when they succeed, ruined them.
And so Trump gets up there and basically warns all
of the other European countries that you are headed for
hell and a hand rested yes, and he is right. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
What he said transcended politics, It transcended nation states, It
transcended alliances. It just said, whatever country you're in right now,
it's going over the falls fast and I'm fighting it.
I've got it by the by the rains in the US,
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and you guys might want to start paying attention to me.
That's what I saw. He talked down, not in a
disrespectful way, but he talked to them as though, wake up,
you're all asleep. You're too busy listening to the people
that are writing you checks.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Part of being a friend is telling the truth to
your friends.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
And you're yes, correct. It was a bit, you know what,
it was an intervention.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
It was.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
It was a one man intervention on the rest of
the members of the United Nations. He said, stop paying
attention to the people writing you big checks, and start
paying attention to your people. Because even though we live
in the West, it doesn't mean we're out of the
woods for civil war revolutions exactly. It hasn't been that long.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
You can say, uh, oh, stop accepting checks. Where's the
money in that. Well, you can wonder that when you're
up against the wall.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I saw in the Chamber of the United Nations very
very dry tender. That just a little spark and it's
going to go. And I'm calling this show the Maga Reformation,
and it's a of course, it's a tip of the
cap to the Protestant Reformation. That's what I talk about.
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I want to talk a little bit about We're going
to put our intellectual tukes on. How do you think
you spelled tukes?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Tukes?
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Ye? They put the knit tight hat on their heads
when it's called outside.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Well, I know that in Lord of the Rings the
tukes were t u h's.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Well, get your intellectual tukes on. And this is for
the dinner table. There's dry tender all over the world
and and specifically here in the United States. In two
hundred and fifty short years, our nation has endured a revolution,
civil war, great depression, two World wars, boom and bust economies,
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but none of those have caused the corrosion of America's
institutions that actually got us through those wars and hard times.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Tracking I wouldn't say that our institutions got us through
I would say our people.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
There are our institutions that are filled with the people,
and I'll get to that. And as a result, as
a result, we had let's just say, the great worst
World War one, World War two. These were political systems
versus political systems, nations versus nations, allies versus axes, democracy
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and freedom versus fascism and authoritarianism. But in between World
War One and World War two, that interregnum you had Marxists, socialists,
pardon me, interbellum. You had the interregnum. The Marxists, your socialists,
your communists from eastern Europe brought their socialist Marxists and
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communist ways here.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I believe the word you're searching words clap trap.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
And sprinkled with anarchy, and they based it in New
York City. The Communist Party USA established its headquarters in Manhattan.
The schools, the schools there, the public schools there in
New York City. The non ivies your NYU, for instance,
been between World War One and World War two, your
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East during European Marxists, socialists, communists and their anarchists foot
soldiers fled Europe, settled on New York City.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Fled the disasters that their ideologies sprung upon them.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Well, let's talk about that their ideologies that I've heard
this note multiple times over the years, that fascism is
a response to communism.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Nonsense. They compete for the same people, they're so close together.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Chicago became a center for radical unionism. You have the
industrial workers of the world, the Wobblies. In Chicago. You
had your steel, meat packing, your rail industries, and it
was fertile ground for strikes and Marxist organizing. Same thing
up in Detroit with Big Auto. The Great Depression made
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it a lot easier to recruit the unemployed workers, and
the Great Depression gave social communism momentum. It jumped the
heartland largely except maybe Kansas City and some other industrial cities.
Land in San Francisco and the West coast ports, your
dock workers, the Congress of Industrial Organizations, the CIO, and
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then it moved south along the coast into Hollywood. Actually,
I think it probably hit Hollywood very early, probably back
in the twenties and thirties. Your writers and directors and
actors joined popular front groups and there was a Marxist, socialist,
communist infiltration of the guilds and screenwriting circles. This, of
course triggered Hollywood Blacklist and McCarthy Nixon House on American
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Committee hearings in the late fifties. But back to New
York City, it had the best schools in America. It
had the money, it was the home of Wall Street.
It educated those immigrant children, as our American promise has,
we will teach you. But our teachers were replaced by
their teachers. Our ideas were replaced by their Eastern European ideas.
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And those public universities like NYC or I'm sorry NYU,
and then that IV Columbia really had the strong Marxist
study groups, sympathetic faculty that wrote and taught these far
left ideas. That's where the Frankfurt School relocated when it
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fled Germany. Herbert Marcuse, we've talked about him a handful
of times. So this is all happening while we're fighting
in Europe and Japan, while we're fighting in Korea, while
we're fighting in Vietnam. And Vietnam sparked, of course in
the sixties. It was Berkeley and then this Marxism, which
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is economic, you know, trying to level the economic playing
field between the worker and the owners of the industry
merged with feminism and race theory, and next thing you know,
it expands even more. It's showing up at Madison, Wisconsin,
huge campus radicalism. In the seventies you had the New Left,
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the Democratic Society, the SDS or students I goes, but
students for Democratic Society SDS, you're black panthers weather underground.
Marxism became the foundational tool for so many of these
other movements, and it started in the universities and the sociology, philosophy,
and literature departments. Then Reagan comes along, collapse of the USSR,
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and that discredited the Orthodox communism, but it left behind
a lot of Marxism and our culture in our schools.
And now we are dealing with the second generation, maybe
even the third generation of that indoctrinations what we call it,
we call it indoctrination. Bernie Sanders and AOC have popularized this.
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Now Mamdani is gonna run in New York City, but
looking good for a mayor after the break that's going
to build on this what's happening. There's a Maga reformation
that I believe we're going to tie it back to
that United Nations speech with Trump and the world leaders
after the break on. Brad Kaffel, that's the General. That's
the sixth ENDVN welcome back for the defense of the
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Speaker 1 (10:17):
General. Back to what we saw in the United Nations
with Donald Trump and the address that the dressing down,
if you will, of those world leaders and diplomats basically
saying you're going over the falls very quickly, and you
might want to pay attention to what I'm doing in America.
(10:37):
This is not politics as usual, And I agree with them.
There was a difference when he was talking. I saw
it in their eyes. They were listening. They knew what
he was saying was true. The problem is that their
bread is buttered elsewhere, and he's telling them, you're going
to run out of butter for your bread. It's just
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a matter of time. They will come for you as well.
What you need to do is protect the the your institution,
protect your nation rather and the only system that works
is making sure that people are free, that there is liberty,
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and that you have a standard of morality and law
and order in your nation. You have to have all those.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Absolutely, you have.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
To have all those. And by the way, ours is
rooted in Judeo Christianity. Uh, you know the book, the
Old Book.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
And there's a reason they put Leviticus on the liberty bell.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
So what we what do we see here? We have conservativism,
which I'm now calling Americanism, and I think we're capturing,
we're recapturing. We're rescuing a lot of people on this
in the center and the center left. We are They're
coming around. John Fetterman, my dark horse is not only
coming around. I think he's I think he's in the tent.
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It's Americanism.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Well, and the tent, interestingly, has moved a little bit.
Where the Democrats were in the early eighties is where
Trump is now. And of course they would all these
these these purple haired people, if they were to go
back in a time machine, would go back into the
eighties and pointed Democrats and scream fascist.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, and they probably also would would be encouraged to
get professional help. We've normalized a lot of mintal illness forcibly. Yeah,
there's folks that really really need help on both sides.
But I'm not here to lob ad hominem attacks on
people on either one of the polls. This is no
longer conservatism responding to illiberalism. This is not Maga versus elites.
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This is Americanism versus the scourge that is plaguing the
world in every nation. Christianity is responding to the atheists
and agnostics that have been living a self indulged, narcissistic life.
And Charlie Kirk was assassinated for that. You only kill
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the people that are speaking out against you and are winning.
Those are the people that lose their heads.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Those are historically a sure sign they've lost the argument.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Historically, the guillotine, the hangman's news, the firing squad.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
The ditch.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yeah. And so Christianity is responding to atheists and agnostics.
I would, although I'm not Jewish, I would submit that
Judaism is as well. I would imagine that there are
Muslim brothers and sisters, as fellow human beings that would agree.
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This is not an anti Muslim, anti Christian, anti jew.
This transcends that this is a response to an evil
that's empty, that is, that has no soul, that has
no boundaries, and the people that it collects and empowers
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are also empty, and they need something and they're finding
it in the wrong place.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Well, you know you say that, And remember our friend
Andrew Breitbart said that politics is downstream from culture, and
I would say culture is downstream from religion.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Correct. So in the twentieth century, our American culture and
our American institutions, we're strong enough to immunize our economic system,
our political system from those who want to completely destroy
America and replace our system with another system. But those
institutions general have been undermined, they've been weakened, and some
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have actually been captured by the far left. Number one,
what Charlie Kirk was all about the institution of family.
Marriage rates decline, divorce, single parent households, birth rates are
falling below replacement. Civic involvement. We saw this with Columbine.
The Rob Putnam's book Bowling Alone talked about this in
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the nineties. Ptas rotaries, churches, bowling leagues all down. Religion,
church attendance, and religious affiliation may be as low as
it's ever been in America. Education, the institution of education,
probably the most important institution, declining in public trust in
our schools, the failing of our public school systems, especially
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in our big cities, and now even spreading into our suburbs.
You're getting your best education now in your charter schools,
your homeschools, and your exerbs. But we have falling performance
scores in K twelve that belie the function of the
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Department of Education itself.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
And the falling performance is also joined with the fact
that the standards are dropping too. We're not even keeping
up with lowering standards.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
No, you change the standards to improve the scores. The
news I can't believe I'm saying this, but you used
to watch the National News at six point thirty, and
you assume what Harry Reasoner was saying was true. Well,
I don't think Harry Reasoner was lying to us. I
don't think Tom Brokaw was lying to us. I just
think that they were fed information from their sources within
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the whether it's from the Pentagon, the State Department, Treasury Department, whatever,
and they were fed information. But legacy newspapers and broadcast
networks have lost all journalistic integrity, all integrity. They've lost
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broad trust and sixty Minutes, which used to I mean,
I just thought sixty Minutes was the Citadel.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Turns out it was a big scam.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
It's not. It's not. It is absolutely the pipe organ
for the administrative state.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
And for decades, for decades, they've been using Hollywood techniques to,
you know, to slant the story. You know, the person
that they don't like. The close up of that you
can see the pores on them person's skin, whereas the
person who is you're supposed to like, they have makeup
on and all this sort of stuff. It's just it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
I saw on one of the most recent Sixty Minutes,
they had the governor of Colorado I'm sorry Governor of
Utah and showed a commercial camp commercial where he is running.
In the commercial, I don't know if you saw this,
you don't watch sixty minutes, but the governor of Utah
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was running and his opponent, the Democrat. They are featured
in the same article, same commercial political ad saying we
can agree to disagree. We're going to do this a
new way, and sixty minutes specifically called out basically Maga
and Stephen and Steve Bannon and saying that you know
that somehow Maga and Steve Bannon and the right is
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against cooperating with the Democrats. That was the slant from
the story. The problem is that those institutions that we
have heavily relied upon as people to get our information,
to get our truth, to form our opinions, have been
captured by the far left, including our I think our
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banks in Wall Street we saw well that was actually
more I think the merger of the far left in
big government. And so if the institutions which have traditionally
been the walls of fortress America have been breached by
the far left, by socialism Marxism, that brings us to
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one of my favorite historical figures, Winston Churchill, who wrote
a book called While England Slept And after the break,
we're going to talk about the parallels between what Winston
Churchill wrote in the thirties against what we're saying in
the twenties ninety years later. All Right, this is for
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got a picture of me from fifteen years ago.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
It was very impressive. Actually, what we have now.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Not changing that picture. Okay, America has fought wars abroad
uniform on uniform, military equipment on military equipment. Now we
have battles here and that's the non uniformed versus non uniformed.
This is not politics as usual. Donald Trump went to
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the United Nations recently and talked to those world leaders
and transcended politics and said, your nations are falling apart,
going over the falls. You're going to reach a point
of no return, and you better listen to what I'm saying,
and you better pay attention to what I'm doing. This
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reminded me of While England Slapt, written by Winston Churchill's
actually a collection of essays that he'd written in speeches
that he'd written in the preceding decade as he watched
fascism rise turn into Nazism and the mass exodus of
Europeans who were fleeing because they couldn't speak in public,
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and they couldn't hold property, and they couldn't have their
businesses and.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Didn't want to live in concentration gams.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Yeah, so While England Slept Winston Churchill. The title says it,
all right, you're fat, You're happy, you're not paying attention.
You're fat, you're happy you're not paying attention. And are
there are dark forces that are brewing. And if you
think that they can't jump the channel and get to us,
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they can. They're arming up, they're organizing, they have funding
out coming from outside their country. And yes, the Treaty
of Versailles crushed them into and put them into a
corner where they really for their own survival we forced
them into the spot. Well, what's happened in America since
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the fall of the Soviet Union's very very similar. We
have not been paying attention. We have been polite society.
We've just assume that the Atlantic and the Pacific will
protect us. The problem is that these institutions that have
traditionally protected us from foreign and domestic change agents have
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been captured and the legitimacy of the entire system that
Donald Trump and mag have been railing against that he
calls the deep state, many people call the deep state
or the administrative state. There's a reformation happening in America,
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a revivalism will That kind of reminds me of the
Protestant Reformation when Martin Luther hammered that those words onto
a church door in Wittenberg, Germany in the fifteen hundreds.
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Martin Luther had no army, no treasury, no money, no
political party. All he had were words in a new technology,
the printing press, and those words dropped into an environment
that was tender, dry with resentment. The problem was, at
the time, the church was selling forgiveness. You could pay
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money and get forgiveness, all right. It was the indulgences
and the Catholic Church for a thousand years had a
near absolute monopoly on spiritual truth, and it claimed the
only path that salvation was through the Church. It controlled
the scripture, the interpretation. It was all written in Latin.
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And Martin Luther put the hammer on that. Literally he
translated the Bible to German, and then he spoke and
wrote in the jargon of the common folk five hundred
years later. And I'm not saying Donald Trump is Martin Luther,
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but I'm just saying the similarities are odd, eerie, unusual.
You wouldn't think this Donald Trump like Martin Luther. The
blunt voice a new technology, not the Gutenberg Press, but Twitter.
Both men challenging the legitimacy of the most powerful empire
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during their time. Both men defiant, both men put on trials.
Both men refused to apologize. Donald Trump is not shattering
He has shattered the rituals of deference on which the
permanent blob state depends. Millions of millions of Americans now
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are not willing to follow the rituals of just trusting
what you're told by your government. And normally the Conservatives
are the ones that are trusting what is being said
by the institutions. And it was the quote liberals or
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far left that were the radicals. Now the radicals are
center right and right.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
What is it The who's saying the beards have just
grown longer overnight? Is the who?
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Yes, I can't probably figure that out. But each each man,
Donald Trump and Martin Luther have have challenged and intrench
and right now I'm sure there are people going on,
my guy, I can't believe you're actually comparing Donald Trump
to Martin Luther. It's a reformation, it's an analogy. It's
a reformation cracking the monopoly on power. And how they
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did it. They were able to bypass the intellectual bodyguards,
that being the high priests and the Latin Bibles.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Oh, Reagan did it to some extent in the eighties.
He was able to command television because of his presence.
If you didn't lead with Ronald Reagan and what he
said that night, you were losing ratings.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
You need three things. You need three things. Number one
is you've got to have a medium to get around
the intellectual bodyguards of the permanent state state. Number two,
you've got to be able to speak in the language.
You've got to translate what's happening. You've got to have
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the intellectual capacity to translate what's happening. And number three,
you've got to use ordinary language that people understand. Plain, sharp,
often crude. Martin Luther was crude, he was plain, he
was sharp, and his words provoked a ferocious backlash from
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the church. Donald Trump's words have provoked a ferocious.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Backlash from the globalists, from.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
The institutions that he's attacking, from the District of Columbia
to the universities, the media, and just as the printing
press democratize knowledge and Martin Luther's writings became best sellers, Trump,
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with a smartphone in his hand, is able to speak
directly to tens of millions of people with snippets that
are instantly share.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
It's brilliant, dude, social media.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yeah, but he's not just he's not talking at an
intellectual level. He's talking at a shareable jargon level. He
doesn't talk, he doesn't copy and paste out of think tanks.
He talks to the construction workers, the people that work
in diners.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
The taxi drivers.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
He talks Yeah, crooked Hillary, low energy, Jeb little Marco right.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah, not not so little anymore.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
By the way, Yes, and I like Marco crude, juvenile, Yes, unforgettable,
but don't we sometimes?
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yes? Right?
Speaker 1 (28:37):
And as a result, Donald Trump has put a wedge
in between the elites and their ability to communicate with
the people. And that plain style has become a weapon
against the elite. And that's where we are. And Donald
Trump is himself an embodiment of defiance against the elites
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who have stopped listening to the people. So back to
the United Nations, there's Donald Trump, and he's saying, better,
start listening to your people. But it has to be
rooted in morality, law and order, and it's got to
be based upon a system that is very close to
(29:23):
what our founding generation came up with.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Where did all that come from?
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah, we're gonna get to that after the break. I
think America is entering an age of pluralism. What does
that mean?
Speaker 2 (29:38):
I don't really like that word plurally.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
I'm not sure does anyone really know what that means?
Speaker 2 (29:42):
I know it means multiples.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
It came out of it came out of my mouth,
enteredg of pluralism. So red and blue states are drifting
further apart. Media ecosystems, not only contradict one another. They
have two separate realities. You watch seeing and you think that,
what's that guy's name, Robinson killed Charlie Kirk. You watch
(30:08):
the other the right right of center media outlets or
the outlets, and it turns out that, well, no, it's
this guy who pushed this on his push this on
his glasses, or pushed this button here and it caused
a Lavalier mike to explode up into Charlie. You know,
(30:30):
there's two separate worlds. Facts themselves have become tribal in
the state, and our institutions that have traditionally had the
monopoly of consensus for democracy to survive, has collapsed into
(30:51):
rival camps, each convinced the other as illegitimate. I'd say
multiple rival camps. But you know what, just as Martin
Luther in the Protestant Reformation gave an avenue to millions
of other men and women who didn't want to bend
(31:11):
a knee to any other man that believed that their salvation,
you didn't need to pay for forgiveness, and you didn't
need to go through a particular other human being had
a giant audience. So does what Donald Trump's been saying
mag's audience is not just for the heartland, it's for
(31:33):
the world. And that's when Donald Trump went to go
to the United Nations, he was talking about this and
the Enlightenment principles that America was found upon was born
in the struggles of the Protestant Reformation era. Were right
back to where we started. And what followed after Reformation
(31:54):
in Europe was decentralization. Your authority had to be earned,
not imposed. Truth will be debated and contested, not dictated,
not told to you. Legitimacy political legitimacy flows is going
to start to flow upward from our local communities, not
(32:18):
downward from a distant DC or New York or Ivy leagues.
And just as Martin Luther hammered those that his ninety
five theses to the door of the church in Wittenberg,
Donald Trump's done the same thing. Whether you like him
(32:40):
or not, hate him, despise him, love him, doesn't matter.
This hammer has struck, the crack is spreading. The monopoly
on news is gone, The monopoly on state power with
the elites is gone, in good riddance, And what comes
(33:03):
next is up to us.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
General thoughts, Well, there's always going to be something inherently
attractive to the majority of people, where the facts are
what you decide after hearing both sides. There's for so long,
going back into the forties, fifties, and sixties, there has
been this cabal that's telling you, we will tell you
what had happened, and we will tell you what to
(33:25):
think about. And indeed they even controlled the news by
not telling you what to think about something. Some stories
were just buried. And that's the most sinister editorialization of
all because you don't even know what happened. But today,
with social media, which is the new printing press of
our day, just like TV was the new printing press
(33:46):
for Reagan, just radio was for FDR exactly, and just
like the printing press was for Martin Luther. All of
them took advantage of these new ways to communicate, to
reach more people and say, look, you get to decide
what the facts are. And the facts, as John Adams said,
are stubborn things, and they will eventually convince the most
(34:08):
people of the most things.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Yeah, what's undefeated is freedom and liberty. What has suffered
loss after loss is Marxism, socialism, communism, and America first
had her big scare of whoa. More and more Americans
are paying attention to this communism thing. In the twenties,
(34:36):
the Russian Revolution in nineteen seventeen triggered the first Red
Scare in the early nineteen twenties here in the United States,
it came with a wave of labor strikes and anarchist bombings.
The precursor to the FBI, Herbert Hoover j Edgar Hoover
(34:57):
launched Palmer raids what are known as Palmer Raids, thousands
of arrests and deportations of suspected radicals. The Communist Party
USA was founded right after World War One. The nineteen thirties.
The Great Depression created very, very fertile ground for Marxist
critiques of capitalism. Communism grew, the Party grew. Leftist writers
(35:19):
and artists became more prominent in the forties and fifties.
It was the temporary alignment of the United States and
the Soviet Union during World War Two, but the Cold
War quickly made communism the ultimate enemy. Joe McCarthy and
(35:39):
Dick Nixon chaired the House on American Activities Committee, and
they went overboard. They threw the baby out with the bathwater.
They were onto something. There was communism in Hollywood, government, academia,
and labor, but it just went too far. And then
in the sixties Marxist thought re emerged in the new
(36:02):
left Students for Democrat Society SDS, Black Panthers, there was.
They linked up with civil rights, they linked up with feminism,
they linked up to opposition to the Vietnam War, and
the Marxists that that train car was along side or
linked up to other very legitimate train cars.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Hello Travelers.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
And then in the eighties and nineties it was a
short decline as the Soviet Union showed that orthodox communism
is not going to work. I think most Americans thought
that communism was gone dead over and labor unions, which
were overtly Marxists based, shifted over to collective bargaining agreements.
(36:47):
But then this Great this Forever War, the Great Financial
Crisis of eight, Bernie Sanders, the younger generation, the the
the chill ldren that were born into a therapeutic environment
have become very open to socialist ideas.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
There's a sucker born every moment, said P. T. Barnum.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
You know when you don't have when when you're when
a lot of your other needs are met. You're going
to find something controversial when you're young. You want to
yell about it, right, you gotta have something yell about.
But Black Lives Matter is Marxist theory. Critical race theory
is Marxist theory. Everyone. It's a presser versus oppressed And
(37:32):
if you wait long enough, you can be an oppressed
person too. You can be part of an oppressed class. Well,
that's not America, that's not Americanism, that's not the Protestant
work ethic, that's not what came out of the Protestant Reformation.
So just as Marxism never took root as a mass
political party of the United States as the way it
(37:55):
did in Europe and Asia and Central America, its ideas
have repeatedly resurfaced, and now to the point where you
know what, it's entrenched in the Democrat Party and now
those in the center, center, left, center right are going
(38:17):
to need to rebuild our institutions from family first, community, religion, education,
local government, which will lead up to better state government,
which will eventually lead up to a better federal government.
Media will be turned off. We're going to stop listening
(38:40):
to you, And that's what happened. We're gonna stop listening
to your crazy ass stuff. And we're not going to
tolerate bombing nations and countries and peoples we have never
heard of. We have no beef with and our financial
institute now twit's next. Americans need to wisen up to
(39:04):
the Ponzi scheme that is our economy and how many
people in corporations live on margin, live on credit. It's
just a matter of time. It's just a matter of time.
Get your financial house and order, get your family in order,
get to church and stand strong against the people that
(39:28):
want to undermine your family, the family, church, law and order,
and get yourself out of debt too.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Dave Ramsey has a lot to say about that.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Downsize all right, We're done. Thanks for listening. Really appreciate it.
Share the show, especially to the younger generation. I'm Brad
Copfel and that's the general and this is for the
defense of the American people.
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