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September 18, 2025 • 39 mins
The guys discuss the fact that the Constitution secures free speech but not violent overthrow of the system. How we morally & legally protect ourselves.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
General. Two big things going on grabbing the headlines of
of the world, especially the center of the world, which
is the Republic of American.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
That is true, always was, and always will be the
American Republic.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
We are not a public the Republic of America.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
We are not a democracy.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
We are a Republic of America. Two big things. Three
If you want to throw in the Epstein rabbit hole,
but will we can cover that rabbit hole at a
later date. The fallout from the Charlie Kirk assassination. The
Democrat Party, they're talking minions. They just can't read the room,
can they They just can't read the room. And they

(00:41):
haven't been able to read the room for a decade.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yes, they're reveling in this. They've they've hit rock bottom
and begun to dig.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
The room continues to get smaller and more radical. And
now the violence, the violence from the people in this
radical wing is undeniable.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Well, there's term for it. It's called a purity spiral.
They get rid of everyone who's not on one hundred
of the songbook.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
It's it's their calm intern. It's there, it's there, there there.
They're Bolsheviks. They are the modern day Bolsheviks, and that's
what I'm talking about today. So we have we have
the American Bolsheviks, and I want to talk about how
they got here and how how a republic like the

(01:28):
United States, rooted in a constitution and freedom of speech,
freedom of assembly, how do we deal with Bolsheviks. We're
going to look at how how revolutionaries have been dealt
with in the past, because they're not all created equal.
They are the revolutionaries that wanted emancipation from the crown,

(01:49):
emancipation from monarchy, emancipation from economic uh famine uh and
and agricultural famine. And those were basic human rights that
were secured by our creator that we're that we are.
God didn't put us on earth to starve, didn't put
us on earth to be slaves and serfs and peasants.

(02:12):
But there's a limit in God's world, in organized society
and a constitutionally protected republic of what we're what we
morally and intelligently and knowingly will not tolerate.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
And that line is tricky because right now that line
is that line that's being reacted to that that that Bolshevik.
And we're gonna talk a minute about why, why we're
calling this the American Bolsheviks. You have to differentiate the

(02:53):
content of the speech, and you're not supposed to. You're
not supposed to. But we are going to be getting
dangerously cooked close to sedition. We're going to be getting
dangerously cooked close to seditious laws that are still in
the books.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
To fighting words, as they've said in Chaplain Ski versus
New Hampshire.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
And we need to educate the American citizenry for the
kitchen table, for the I doubt you're talking about it
at tailgates, but you know, if you're looking for something
to talk about, you're going to have to understand the
nuances associated with We're willing to tolerate X, but we

(03:43):
will not tolerate why. And here's why we won't tolerate why.
Here's what history shows us in an organized society. If
you tolerate why too long, here's what's going to happen.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
And one way we were talking about this just on
the way in that we can fight back about all
this with what happened to Charlie Kirk in the sacrifice
he made. I've written to my senators and I've written
to my congressman saying that we need to have a
federal holiday commemorating Charlie Kirk Day.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
You email John and Bernie.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
I didn't email them. I wrote them letters and signed
them and they would nailed them.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Off, all right. I was in Gosh just two months ago,
my son and I we went over to visit Senator
Bernie Marina's office. Keep an eye on Bernie. Bernie speaks
the truth.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
He is he does.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Bernie knows what he's talking about.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
And he got a letter from the General and the
General asked him to sponsor a Charlie Kirk Day in
remembrance and honoring the sacrifice that Charlie Kirk made for
freedom of speech. And that will get up into the
left nose more than anything else.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah, you know, and I'm not a big fan of
adding federal holidays. I think we've got enough already. But
you know, so the second big thing happening in this
and I don't know how much coverage it got because
across the legacy cable network, because I was focused on

(05:09):
the actual running video of the pomp and circumstance of
the UK rolling out the red carpet and the full
military state dinner, the full military escort into the State
dinner there at Windsor Castle. I am just enraptured by

(05:34):
all that regalia. And you know Sir Donald was loving that.
But did you getting ideas he's here right now, he's
he's on the phone with some decorators. He's going who
did the who did these? Well, that guy's been that
guy's been dead for a while.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
There's a well did you see the uh before Trump came? Actually,
Britain had its largest, its largest rally in protest in
its history with regard to freedom of speech and the
passing of Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Crazy, that's the only thing. I'm just I'm just shocked
that the reaction around the world.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
But South Koreans were singing his name.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
So there's there's a there's a confluence here between Charlie
the fallout of Charlie Kirk's assassination, and it's further highlighting
the Bolshevik outlaws, the people that don't like the current
system and they want it broken down and replaced with
another system that it doesn't work.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
And in a violent fashion.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
You see them on their TikTok videos singing how.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
Great it is that Charlie Kirk was assassinated.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Now let's not confuse what these these radical illiberals. They're illiberals.
They're not liberty. They're not about liberty and freedom.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
They're leftists.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
They are they are anarchists, hardcore leftists, and they they
are there during the Russian Revolution they were the Bolsheviks,
and they wanted to skip an important stage of Marxist philosophy,
which was let capitalism run its course. They wanted to
skip that and go straight to socialism.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Because capitalism would not run its course. The viral state
of things.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Capitalism was pretty doing a pretty damn good job.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
It was the natural state of things in the.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
West, in the Western hemisphere.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yeah, it will you change when water starts running up.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
He'll got leave man alone to figure out how to
feed his family. He'll get industrious, he'll figure it out.
And if you know, look, I got a great little
idea over here. I can make this. I can take
this idea or product to market, but I need some money,
some capital. Loan the money, borrow the money. Now you've
got partners or investors. That's how it works. That's how

(07:53):
things get solved. The state doesn't solve things. The government
doesn't solve things. It just muddies the water. Now, you
can't now the irony that Donald Trump and our two
hundred and fiftieth orbit around the sun is on British soil.
Donald Trump on British soil, And they had the I

(08:14):
don't did you catch any of this ceremonies? I did
attic it was so I mean, it was so well done.
But who gets to write this? Who has to write
the speech for? Who's who's Trump's speech writer? And you go, okay,
you're going to have to stand up in front of
several hundred people in the palace. You were the you're
now representing the revolutionary you know, you're the modern George Washington.

(08:40):
And the guy sitting to your left, his grandfather five
times removed, was King George Third. What do you say there?
I thought Trump did a great job.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
You said, nice architecture, and it's amazing he knew everybody.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
He's your decorator.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yes, who's your decorator?

Speaker 3 (08:59):
I don't think that's all.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yeah, yes, here is your decorator.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
It's classic Trump.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
He did. I'm sure he doesn't like the food there.
But the other is, what's the king right? What's the
king say? What's the king say? When the modern George
Washington shows up. But here's my point.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
He did say some nice things about the work that
Charles had done for the rivers and the seas and
the environment and all that.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
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the south bank of the River Thames in Surrey, England,
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(09:45):
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talk about and how we deal with these violent political

(10:08):
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Speaker 1 (10:56):
Okay, So President Donald Trump, modern day George Washington is
on British soil, and he's there with King George the
Third's grandson five times removed, King Charles. Twenty miles west
of central London is a very important place in Surrey, England.

(11:21):
It's called running Meat. And in twelve fifteen the nobles,
the elite got tired of the oppression from the king.
And when the elite joined the rank and file, change
is going to happen.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
The elite being the people who supply all the soldiers
and all the money and all of that sort of thing.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
So you have this is eight hundred years ago. When
the elite join the serfs, elite join the oppressed. When
the elite join the uscronold, the downtrodden, the deplorables, you're
either going to and you're the eye in power. You're

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either going to have to crush it, or you're going
to have to extend an olive branch and make some concessions.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Or you're going to have your head on the block.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
And what King John did was he signed and sealed
the Magna Carta after negotiations with a group of rabble rousers.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
You can think of that people as like the very
first Constitution was the first thing that put limits on
an absolute monarch's.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Rule, charter limits on the powers of monarchy and asserted rights,
but just to the nobles true right. And then it
starts to expand it's further from there, and then it
by you know, within five one hundred, six hundred years,
it's dropped down into American and it's all spreading through

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because monarchy got headstrong again and the youth, at least
here in the colonies US, the utes, the young people,
and the elite got together with some money. And you
once you get it all together and you get it organized,
you can demand change.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
And get it.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
And we celebrate that in America. We celebrate the American
Revolution and the reason we had. We are told we
had morality on our side and law and order on
our side. And we had right on our side is
because human rights, fundamental rights were being stepped on by

(13:31):
King George. There that liberty, liberation from autocracy, whether it's
autocracy from a church or autocracy from a state, or
autocracy from a monarchy, spread all through Europe in the
eighteen hundreds. And are the two original hippies Marx and Engels.

(13:52):
They were they wrote out like, hey, we can bring
some of this liberty to economically oppressed people through this
industrial revolution, the workers they're getting screwed.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Not realizing that it was already heading in that direction.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
And so this idea of Marxism as the state needs
to reach down and lift up the oppressed and change
the rules so it reduces oppression. That Marxism extension of
this idea of liberty liberalism. Well, when that thought, that

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revolutionary thought gets to young people who are impatient enough
and don't like the current system, like what happened in
Russia with the Russian Revolution in nineteen seventeen. They took
a three hundred year Russian empire and put it on
its knees in just a matter of what fifteen years,

(14:53):
true put it on its knees. And those who brought
that were the Bolsheviks. They didn't want to wait. They
wanted revolution now, and they got their revolution. But the
problem was they didn't drop they didn't move over into
a constitutionally protected republic with the Bill of Rights and

(15:15):
human rights, and instead they just depressed all dissent.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Well, keep in mind, though, that there's an important distinction
here that the people today who don't want to wait
are eighteen nineteen twenty year olds who are naturally at
the bottom of the barrel economically because they don't have
the skills yet, they don't have the experience yet they're
starting out. But the people in Russia at that time
they were twenty thirty, forty fifty years old and had nothing.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Americans we were watching, at least the Americans who were
paying attention to what was happening in Russia. And of
course at the end of World War One, the concern
was that that revolutionary thinking, meaning replaced capitalism with socialism,
would jump the Atlantic and come over here. Well it did,
and this is where the and they created what's called

(16:07):
a comm Intern, and Moscow became the headquarters of world
revolution and communist parties worldwide took orders directly from Lenin's new.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Regime, common turn being short for communist international.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
So the first red scare happened in the United States
in nineteen nineteen, nineteen twenty, and it was a direct
response to this vision of international revolution. We're there now,
we are there, we are there now. This is another
red scare. It's a it's it's it's not being called communism,
it's not being called socialism. It's being called antifa, so

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that if you're against it, you must be a fascist.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
You must be Satan, you must be you must be
a fascist.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
So when I hear Stephen Miller or President Trump or
any of the other Steve Bannon, when I hear these
guys say, we need to declare Antifa a domestic tear organization,
which was just done, which was just done by executive order,
I think from Windsor Castle at two am last night
for US two am.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
Trump would have been away getting way.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Yeah, he was up and he was tweeting inside the
Windsor Castle. He was launching strikes at who's the bonehead
that lost his most recent guy to loses his late
night show.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
Oh Kimmel, Yeah, Jimmy Kimmel.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Bye. So what we're saying is that there is a
new vision of international revolution and it is rooted in
socialism and it has been spreading through the thirties. Stalin
got a hold of it, and the Great Depression accelerated

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this thinking because you took a lot of halves and
made them have notts, and you took the have nots
and you got them down to just global poor. In
the West in the forties, we were forced to side
with these with this type of thinking in World War Two.
But after World War Two it never stopped. This way

(18:12):
of thinking, international revolutionary thinking, this comm intern, it never stopped,
and there are plenty of Americans in the sixties that
liked it and created student groups over it.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Well, it's because in a capitalist society you succeed through merit.
When you haven't any merit, then you go to communism
where you say I will succeed because I've been appointed
to be Commisar for this or commisar for that. It's
also extremely interesting that these people are being funded by globalists.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
You know, we're dealing with the same thing. And I
believe the FBI was formed in part in part to
deal with the red scare, and we had something called
the McCarthy raids in the nineteen twenties.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Well, it was also funded to in part because there's
a lot of bank robberies that were going on. The
police locally were powerless because they would rob a bank
and then go across state lines.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
You know, by the way, talking about the Romanov dynasty,
that three hundred year dynasty of Russia, which had Poland,
it had Crimea, had the Ukraine. All that gold, the
gold that backed that empire and it was the greatest
empire after it defeated France. After Napoleon went over there

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in the eighteen hundreds and early eighteen hundreds and Napoleon
couldn't take down Russia.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
It sort of disappeared into Finland, didn't it.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
All that gold, that gold had to leave during the revolution.
And if you're interested in this little line of history,
the theory is that they had it smelted down into
train cars painted black, and then they had literally gold

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train cars in black, and they took that train car
right out of Russia through Berlin and then we don't
know where it went. Supposedly emptied, they think it made
its way to New York City and a lot of
that money got feathered into the market and caused the
stock market to take off in the twenties. Stick around,
Let's talk about this. How that is it responsible? Adult? Moderate?

(20:20):
First Amendment absolutist? How do we deal with these types
of uprisings? Welcome back to for the Defense of the
American People. With Attorney Brat Koffel and the General Stockmaster General,
we're talking about what lessons can we glean from history?

(20:45):
When you're not an autocracy, You're not a monarchy, you're
not a religious autocracy, you're not a theocracy. We are
a republic and we have it constitution. We have Bill
of Wrights and numerono is the right to be heard,
the right to assemble, the right to.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
Protest, petition, government right.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
How do we square that with the socialists that are
in our nation, that are no longer hiding behind just unions.
They're not They're not just in the unions. I guess
I should say they're in the universities. They are in

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the media. They are where the Red Scare number one
said they would be. In Red Scare number two McCarthy era,
they're where they're where they said they would be. McCarthy
and Nixon took it way too far.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Maybe a simpler way of asking the question would be,
how does the government that promotes free speech deal with
a group that is against free speech?

Speaker 1 (21:53):
So historically, we have been fighting this anti constitutionally protected
Western style liberalism since our founding, since seventeen seventy six.
We picked up from the magna carta at running meat.

(22:13):
We picked up and picked that up in seventeen seventy six,
and we lit the flame, and the flame went through
Europe and people were liberated from totalitarian regimes monarchies. But
now there are people inside our country, inside our republic,
that say that this is a bad system. It needs

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to be blown up, it needs to be dismanled, it
needs to be taken apart.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
We need to be in charge.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
What do you do when you with a vocal minority
that wants to take the First Amendment like that and
celebrate the death of a man who was only thirty
one years old, by the way, eight years younger than
doctor Martin Luther King.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Not even legally allowed to run for president yet JFK.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
In nineteen when he was thirty one barely knew him.
America barely knew the guy. What Charlie Kirk did at
the age of thirty one, the people that he reached worldwide,
the age of thirty one, It is beyond debate, any
rational debate, that what Charlie Kirk was doing was taking

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his fundamental beliefs on fairness and equality and going to
the college campuses where they where he deemed he could
reach those young minds that were already being reached by
socialist dogma in doctrination, where kids who were already in

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the fringe for one reason or the other, they were
on they're on society's fringe, and those empty minds were
being filled with.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
Leftists' largist thinking.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
And he was an existential threat to that whole system.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
And he wasn't running for office. Yeah, there were talks
about him maybe running for president, but he was not
talking about running. He wasn't there to make laws to
oppress people. He was there to meet them in their.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
Formative years, listen to them.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
And listen to them and come up and debate. He
The fact that he was assassinated is one thing. The
fact that the Democrat, this new Democrat party, and the
Bolsheviks insite it are celebrating it, and there are pastors
and churches who are apparently Christians celebrating it. This is

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different than the nineteen twenties Red Scare, This is different
than McCarthyism in the fifties. This is different than revolution
everywhere sixties, Cuba, Vietnam, cultural radicalism, because Bolsha's Bolshevism in
the sixties got to our youth. It became a youth
driven revolutionary romantic idea. They tied it to civil rights

(25:17):
of African Americans, they tied it to feminism, they tied
it to anti imperialism and groups. There were splinter groups
all through Europe, and we had splinter groups in the
United States weather Underground that adopted urban guerrilla tactics expired

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inspired by Marxist Leninists ideals.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Well, there's been a big shift recently in that the
young people have gotten a little tired of listening to
the whole class theory of Marxism, and now they want
to talk about the oppression theory, which is the modern
way of talking about it.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Everyone can be Every teenager is oppressed. Every twenty something
year old who's looking at their snap maps and seeing
other people are out doing things and they're not they're oppressed. Oh,
we need to reach you. You're not alone. You're not walking

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this path of life alone. We are here. Christians are here.
This is what Jesus preached, and this is what Charlie
Kirk was telling these poor kids. Christianity is not a cult.
It is not an oppressive regime. There are there are

(26:40):
Christian preachers who preach hate, but Charlie Kirk didn't preach hate.
What he tried to do is debunk taboo cultural topics.
Instead of online rhetoric and ad hominem at acts on people.

(27:02):
He went there and a T shirt and jeans and
tennis shoes and drank water. Was never under the influence
of alcohol. The only thing that man was under the
influence of was the.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
Scriptures, which he knew very well.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
And the scriptures cannot exist in Marxist ideology, absolutely not.
You cannot have Christianity coexist. I'm sorry to Marxists. Christianity
cannot co exist.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Leftism is the religion for them, it.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Is the religion. So in the eighties, during the decline
of the Soviet Empire Afghanistan, you know, the Soviet invasion
became their Vietnam, and we went in there and we
armed the Islamist fighters also known as Osama bin Laden
and the Reagan era adopted the hard line anti communist stance,

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calling it the evil Empire. It is now time to
call these Bolsheviks that are here in the United States,
that are in the schools teaching our kids, that are
inner institutions, that are in our media, that are online,
that are in Reddit, that are in other chat rooms,
you are part of an evil empire. It's a diaspora,

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it's all over the world, but it's evil. And the
g Gerald Reagan called this when it was organized an
evil empire. Well, now the empire may be gone, but
the evil's not. And if you think that we're not
dealing with good and evil, then you're very naive to
world history. Explain what happened to Zar Nicholas when the

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Bolsheviks got ahold of him during the the Bolshik Revolution.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
Well after they took over.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
They had him initially under house arrest, but still in
very luxurious circumstances. But as time went by and communism
was not working out, they started cutting the benefits, of course,
and pretty soon he was living in basically jail conditions.
And then one day, one morning, during the height of

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the Russian Civil War, when they were concerned that the
white Russians would latch onto him. They took him and
his family into a basement, all of his children, and
they shot him, shot them and all of them.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yes, assassinated them. That's what Bolsheviks do. That's not what
Christian soldiers do. That's not what Christians here in the
United States would do to political opponents.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
Christ said that his kingdom was not of this world.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
So how do we a rule of law nation. How
do we deal with this without just being repressors ourselves?
What we the response needs to be very narrow and
that's what we're going to talk about the next segment.
All right, welcome back. Final segment. How does the American

(30:24):
How does the Republic of America, with a constitution and
a Bill of rights to guarantees freedom of speech, freedom
of assembly, freedom protests, deal with organized paramilitary Marxists, communist socialists.
Thought that we have been fighting with bullets and blood

(30:45):
for decades. When it is now in your schools and
your universities, it's in your media, it's infiltrated your professional sports.
It seems like the tide is shifting, that wave is
come in and it seems to be receding and hopefully
it recedes on its own. But it's not going to

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be the soldiers in uniform to deal with this one.
It's going to be all of us to stop and
say we will we will fight to protect our values
because our values do protect you too. We don't want
to kill your leaders. We will not sanction that. There's

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no discussion of that. But there's this. Historically, when revolution
comes from the far left, that's what happens.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
On the opposite of that. You know, Christ did not
say submit to me or submit to the sword. He
said come to me voluntarily. I don't want slaves and
serfs and people who are forced to believe in me.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
We need transparency at the federal, state, and local level.
When there is violence. We need to know who the
organizers are. We need to be transparent with our standards.
Here are our standards.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
You need to know who's funding those leaders.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
But our standards, like here are our standards. Here's where
you know there needs to be transparency here in the
United States. I want to hear the Trump administration's standards.
They're evidentiary standards, and I want those to be transparent.
I want there to be judicial review as well. But
we do need to ban organizations that are explicitly expressly

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committed to abolishing this constitutional order by force. We must
protect our ballot box. We must protect our ballot box.
We must have transparency on party financing of our internal democracy.
Who is financing every single senator's campaign? Both parties. Our

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intelligence community must know where far left and far right
paramilitary training and private militias are. We must disrupt those,
both both far left and far right. Equal enforcement of
left and right. The biggest these social media platforms like Reddit,

(33:22):
Discord Fortune there. There needs to be much more education
to the to the parents and the tow students, and
to young people. All of us on bought and troll detection.
We need identify, we need to know. It needs to
be highlighted. This is our bought, this is a troll.

(33:43):
We need disclosure of funding. We need to We need
to know the origins for their violent political content. We
need paper trails audits. We need to know are there
foreign governments or foreign actors funding these domestic organizations. Yes,

(34:05):
they are, and that then makes them susceptible to the
terrorism tag. I don't like labeling domestic. I don't think
we can label domestic political groups as terrorists.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
Well they did that with the Ku Klux Klan in
the twenties.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
It really we start to that's a step in the
wrong direction, but point well taken. But look on an
individual basis, it is now time to publicly shun those
who refuse to honor our social pact. Shame and shun
exactly and shun them. Shame and shun them. If you've

(34:44):
got a shiftless teenager, they are vulnerable. Get them shifted.
Figure it out.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
But wat the way Charlie Kirk did it.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
If your kids is sitting in the basement gaming all
day on the weekend and says and you justify it
as like, oh, well, these are my friends, they're online,
get his ass out of the basement, out of their room,
get them engaged, get them outside. They need to understand
you're not going to find truth down there in the
basement of the headset on discord. You're not going to

(35:18):
find truth down there in the basement playing games whatever
they are. And teach these kids when they're eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen,
identify their special skill sets. Not every student is going
to be good in math, science, technology, engineering. Some of

(35:39):
us have to go to law school. Some of them
don't want to be in school. Figure out what their
skill set is and train them with some portable skills.
Up skill them. Take the skilled and upskill them. Take
the unskilled and skill them. Let's see regional and we

(36:02):
spend a lot of money chasing a cure for cancer.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
But man, we.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Need to put a lot of money chasing a cure
for the adolescent shiftless because they're the ones that are
the foot soldiers for these Marxist revolutionary Bolshevik types.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
I would not say foot soldiers. I would call them
cannon fodder.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
There is foreign influence amplifying this message. And I don't
know what nation it's coming from. I don't care. But
if it's if there's foreign influence on domestic politics and
domestic in our elections, that is illegal, and we can
build rico cases against these people and Americans, your conservatives,

(36:57):
your libertarians, your moderates, center left, you're going to need
to brace yourself. We have to do something more than
what's been done since Nut Gingrich left Congress. We have
to do more. What would Ronald Reagan do? Ronald Reagan

(37:20):
already called this evil because it is. You don't have
to take it biblical. You don't necessarily need to say
it's the end of days. You might lose people there,
but it is evil. There is no other explanation for
the assassination of a thirty one year old preacher on
a college campus.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
With a wife and two kids.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
So what we've learned, we have wisdom of four hundred
years two point fifty here in the US. We can
go back a couple hundred years and see how other
countries have handled uprisings rebellions. There's a difference between fundamental
rights guaranteed by the constitution and radical thought to come

(38:04):
in and end that constitution. Our constitution has teeth, but
it's the teeth for the people to use, not the government.
We are the sovereign. We are the bosses. Don't delegate
the shaming and shunning to Fox News or Newsmax or

(38:25):
the podcasters. It's your duty to protect this constitutional order.
We are responsible, and it's okay to say, not only
do I disagree with you, but them's fighting words. Talk
about that real quick.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
Well.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Keep in mind when we say fighting, there are ways
of fighting. One is through violence and all, but in
all situations, when it comes to debate and trying to persuade.
You want to look at how Charlie Kirk did. The
reason that they assassinated Charlie Kirk was because he was effective.
He was devastatingly effective at going after an existential part

(39:04):
of Marxism.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
He was turning the tide on America's youth, primarily educated males, exactly.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
And when they saw this guy who had never gone
to college.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Aside from a semester at a community college, and they
came into the debate thinking that they were so much
smarter than he was, and then ended up being persuaded.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Well, there's a lot more on this. We're going to
talk about next week or two. The messages that Charlie
Kirk was saying, and just really how controversial were they.
It depends on who you ask. Does it deserve political violence,
Absolutely not.
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