September 11, 2025 • 38 mins
Has an invisible line been crossed? The guys discuss the historical similarities of our young founders when Political & Social Trust was repeatedly violated. But violence cannot be met with violence this time.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We are recording the show just eighteen hours after the
assassination of Charlie Kirk. It's a somber day. It's also
nine to eleven. The symbolism is hard to miss, isn't it.
When my cell phone started to blow up yesterday afternoon
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about three point fifteen, very first thing that I saw
was a video clip sent to me by a friend
on a text thread, one of the many text threads
that I was on yesterday. And I had no warning,
I didn't know anything that simply said WTF exclamation point.
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I clicked on it, and it was the video of
Charlie Kirk's assassination. I'll never forget it. Most of us,
I would imagine our listeners were not around when JFK
was shot, or Doctor King Bobby Kennedy. If you were,
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you may not remember it. But this isn't This isn't
a moment in American history and the general and I
as conservative historian, contemporary political thinking, contemplative thoughts of what's
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going on in the world, How does it boil down
to the dining room and the family room. I consider
Charlie Kirk's assassination to be a canary in the coal mine.
When I was in law school, I couldn't understand after
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the fall of the Iron Curtain, that the fall of
the curtain, the pardon me, the Soviet Union, why we
needed to put boots on the ground in every other
part of the world. One school of thought was, well,
we're not going to do this to stemy communism. That's over.
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That's what we were told. We were going to go
put boots on the ground across the world to stemy
and contain communism. Well, then, what was our next mission?
Why did we put boots on the ground in the Balkans,
Why did we put boots on the ground in the
Middle East? Why did we put boots on the ground
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in parts of the world that we've never heard of?
And I believe those decisions made in the early nineties
have led us to where we are now. Where a
non politician, Christian fact strong Christian faith, non politician, young
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man going to college campuses, debating the young men and
young women who were there, taking in the support of
the young men and young women who were there, but
engaging them to think critically because they were not being
taught to think critically. He knew that, but he also
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knew that his generation didn't have tailwinds behind them like
perhaps my generation and my parents' generation economic tailwinds. He
knew as a young man that the economic wins were
going to be in their face. Back to the nineties,
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one side of the political ledger said, tax and spend
democrats and take this democracy to other parts of the
world against their will. We weren't backing republican revolutionaries in
the Middle East. We were backing anyone that was going
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to disrupt the nationalization of oil. Samuel Huntington, Professor Huntington
of Harvard wrote a first a master piece in Foreign
Affairs and then a book Class of Civilizations. He predicted
what we are experiencing now. If you go over there
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and kick the hornets nests, you will bring that medieval
thinking to the United States. If you go over there
and kick the hornets nest, you're going to bring over
revolutionary ideas that are not pro republican, that are not
pro democratic. They're going to call themselves liberals, but they're
actually illiberals. To execute a man who represented the best
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of America while maintaining civility, not seeking political office is
an escalation perhaps never seen before in our two hundred
and fifty years, an invisible line has been crossed. We
thought that maybe when in Butler, PA. We thought that
with mandatory vaccines, We thought that with martial law, during COVID,
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We thought that during mail in ballots. But this is
an invisible line that aircraft carriers, reaper drones and stealth
aircraft cannot fight. Men in uniform. Men and women in
uniform cannot fight this battle. This one is for every
American not in uniform. We have failed to teach our
youth for the last thirty years how to separate rhetoric
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from reality. Who was Charlie Kirk a threat to? Who
is Charlie Kirk truly a threat to? Well? I ask
you three questions. Question number one, where did Charlie Kirk
take his thoughts and beliefs American universities? Who did he
speak to university students? Where was he killed at an
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American university or in Utah will now have its own infamy?
Why American universities? Why did Charlie Kirk, a young man
graced with a genius, take his message to American universities? Because,
as we have been saying for a long time, it
is the incubator of critical theory, assassinated in front of
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his wife and house Democrats shout down, Charlie Kirk, moment
of silence, another invisible line. I'll get back to them
in the moment later in the show with the General.
But name other Americans who have had this much influence
at such a young age. I can Edward Rutledge, South Carolina,
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twenty six years old, the very youngest signer of the
Declaration of Independence, Thomas Lynch Junior, also South Carolina. Thomas
Hayward Junior, also South Carolina. Benjamin Rush thirty years old.
Other young founding figures. James Monroe was only eighteen he
dropped out of college to join the Continental Army. Alexander
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Hamilton was only nineteen when he became Washington's aid de camp.
Aaron Burr was only twenty when he joined the Continental Army.
John Marshall, future Chief Justice, was twenty years old when
he served at Valley Forge. Henry Knox twenty five years
old when he hauled a cannon from Fort Ticonderoga to Boston,
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helped driving the British out Why because invisible lines were
crossed the point at which colonial frustration with the ruling
class shifted from grievance is that they thought could be
negotiated to a point where reconciliation was impossible. And that's
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what we're going to talk about, this invisible line. After
the break, the generals in studio with me, We're going
to ponder what this really means. I'm Brad Kaffel. This
is for the defense of the American people. On six' TEN.
Wtvn we are recording the show On september. Eleven on
nine to, Eleven it's a day that every YEAR i block.
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OUT i don't take, APPOINTMENTS i don't talk to. Clients
i've done this every day since nine to, eleven AND
i never thought. THAT i just never thought that on
nine to, eleven or any day any of the other
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three hundred and sixty four, days we would be talking
about the, horrific Bloody kennedy esque assassination of a, young
very popular Conservative american exercising His First amendment right free
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speech at the citadel of free. Speech the irony is.
Unbelievable an invisible line has been. Crossed and maybe this
is an invisible line that was similar to when Doctor
king was, Assassinated but for sure there was a boiling
point of frustration with the ruling class The British empire
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From britain that moved from just griping and grievances that
the men of the day in seventeen seventy six thought
could still be, negotiated but it took a decade or
two to get to the point where they realized reconciliation was.
Impossible that just. Revisit let's dust off the history books real.
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Quick number one was taxi without. Representation taxation shifted from
regulation of trade tariffs to direct internal. Taxes that's an
existential threat to self. Government direct taxation was never supposed
to be part Of it was not part of The
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American Operating code until The progressives took over during The wilson.
Administration direct taxation of your, property direct taxation of your
income is an existential threat to self. Government if you
don't own your, property your, labor and the fruits of
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your labor, unencumbered then you will not have a stake in.
Society and if you don't have a stake in your,
neighborhood in your, village in your, city in your, state
and your, nation then you're an empty vessel that can
be filled with the poison that's being poured into many
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of our Fellow. Americans Number two suppressing. Descent King george
The third sent in an occupying army without local consent
to silence. Dissenters, well what happens when you convert from
soldiers to. Algorithms number three a denial of local, autonomy
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the disillusion of colonial legislatures Like. Massachusetts In, virginia the
king revoked their. Charters charters guarantee local self. Rule and
when politics and decision making is all the way at
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the top and a central body of men and women
that don't have your best interests at, heart then you
have a denial of local. Autonomy then you have the
punishment of collective, descent not just punishing one, individual but
an entire. Community that's what's happening to the white. Community
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it's what's happening to The christian. Community it's what's happening
to the economic nationalist. Community it's what's happening to the
Make America Great again. Community it has been a punishment
of our collective. Descent what else are? Similarities a subordination of.
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Justice there's a two tier justice. System laws were broken
By british. Soldiers they were treated differently than if the
same laws were broken by. Colonists is there a two
tier justice system between the rule class and the? Rest
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but what put it over the? Edge? Bloodshed the moment
shots were, fired those invisible lines turned. Tangible the ruling
classes policies crossed from being unpopular to being seen as
fundamental violations of liberty and self, government breaches of. Trust
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the invisible lines of trust continue to be. Broken so
the question now is what do you? Do what do
you do? Now what do you do with the other,
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side whoever they, are and they should know who they.
Are if you don't have the same level of disgust
THAT i do and The general does and so many
millions Of americans, have if you don't have the same
specific level of, disgust then you may be part of.
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Them and we highly encourage those listeners to take a
step back and understand what's really happening. Here this is
not about gun, Control this is not About Charlie kirk
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shouldn't have been so. Divisive polite society has tolerated radical
ideas a bit too. Long we TOLERATED covid mail in,
ballots open, borders the great, Reset butler pa attempted assassination
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Of trump At West, palm attacks on Ice National guard
in The big, cities shooting of kids In catholic, schools
the slang of The ukrainian girl on the bus or,
train and Then Charlie kirk On september, tenth twenty twenty,
five the fusion Of christian revivalism and modern. Politics Billy
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graham with a dash of Rush limbaugh gets, assassinated and
after the, break The general AND i are going to
talk about what Made Charlie kirk's message resonate and why
was he so. Popular everybody who had any contact With Charlie,
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kirk they all say the same. Thing he was, humble
he was a. Servant he was very strong in his.
Beliefs why because two thousand years of truths in those
sacred texts aren't. Wrong ask my clients who go to.
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Prison you know what they wind up reading over and over.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
The?
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Bible do you know what they say before they stand
before the judge as the judge is going to pronounce
sentence that they're turning their life over To Jesus. Christ
they Are they understand, it they get. It, now that's
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What charlie's talking. About that's the class of. Civilizations but
his entree was the bank, bailout the great fraud committed
on The american, workers where our tax dollars were used
to bail out big banks because we were told they're
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too big to. Fail, no, no let them. Go we
don't need fifty five inch flat screen TVs for four hundred.
Dollars we really. Don't we do not want to raise
children to be serfs in a rental economy where they're
going to work three jobs to afford their. Rent forget
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about owning a. Home they're being told that being married
with kids is some sort OF i don't, KNOW i
don't know what they call. It but where are these
young kids getting this? Stuff Where charlie was speaking to
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them on college, campuses also in social, media he knew
instinctively two. Things his generation was losing any ownership ownership
stake in society while the wealth is increasing all the
way at the top among the ownership. Elite but there
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is another way besides radical professor endorsed tearing down the.
System there is another, way and that's What charlie was talking.
About all, right this is for the defense of The american.
People we are recording specifically by design On september, eleven
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and we just certainly were not expecting to have to
talk About Charlie kirk's, demise his. Assassination, general you heard
my first two. Segments what are your?
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Thoughts, well it seems to me That Charlie kirk was
killed for two. Reasons, first he was a genius at
persuading entrenched in doc grenated college aged leftists to rethink their,
positions and that is an existential threat to the. Left,
second and more, importantly these leftists are consumed with filling
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others with the same hate that has ruined. Them they
want you to feel that, hatred and you must refuse.
Delivery if those on the left, imagine, however that this
will silence, us they have very vivid. Imaginations and for
those of you out there who are thinking about how
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we need to match violence with, Violence charlie would say
that you are thinking like a leftist and that that
is how they get their hooks into. You how you
act in response to this should be governed by one.
Question If Charlie kirk were standing next to you when
you did what you were thinking about, doing would he?
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Approve? Yeah, this, well Said General this is not a
violence meets violence. Scenario you don't need to go that
when you have truth on your, side and you, KNOW
i guess for me, PERSONALLY i can't speak for everyone,
else but for, Me i've just kind of biding my, time,
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waiting waiting.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
For.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Me my conversion started very. Early in nineteen eighty. EIGHT
i voted For George, Bush Ronald reagan's vice. PRESIDENT i
was looking forward to a continuation Of Ronald reagan's, policies, thinking,
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messaging and Unfortunately GEORGE. H. W bush fumbled a big.
Time he fumbled big time period And Ross perrot stepped
in in ninety two to sound the alarm, bells AND,
i to, me, instinctively Everything ross pro was saying in
ninety two made. SENSE i was twenty four years, old
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AND i got. It it made sense to. ME i
voted for pro in ninety. Two, unfortunately those of us
that voted For perrot allowed the New democrat and a
whole new breed Of. Democrat we've touched on this in prior.
Shows The republicans had such a stranglehold on The White
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house and federal government that in the mid, eighties Young Bill,
clinton as the charismatic. High Iq rhodes, Scholar yale grad
governor From. Arkansas probably not too hard to rise at
the top of the political party there In arkansas with those,
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creds had some big money behind. Him Think, arkansas what's down?
There and they created The Democrat Leadership conference in the mid,
eighties and the whole idea, was we need to, rebrand
we need a new type Of democrat party to unseat These,
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republicans these. Conservatives and he said all the right. Things
he was, charismatic he was for you, know his kitchen sink.
Politics It's James carville's it's the economy. Stupid and as
a result of The United states needing to outspend The
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Soviet union to get them to, implode we put a
huge debt on our books And George bush, Said i'm
pledged if you lect, me we're not raising. Taxes and
he got in there and he realized, that, well it's
you can't cut it's too hard to cut from the.
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Budget i'm going to have to raise taxes.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
And the.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Economy not only did the economy suffer with a, recession
he broke a major pledge promise and the perfect. Storm
Ross perrot stepped in siphoned away a lot of smart,
votes And Bill, clinton, charismatic young, charmer got in there
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with his New democrat The New Democrat, party and That
New Democrat party is his birthed offspring that didn't go
didn't stay to the. Center they went far left and
they were. Supported they got air support from The ivys
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and the revolutionaries of the sixties who never left, campus stuck,
around got their, PhDs still didn't leave, campus got their,
fellowship still didn't leave, campus became a professor who still
didn't leave, campus became tenured. Professor and how does a
professor make their? Name do they? Do they? Do they
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the political scientists and thinkers and sociologists and philosophical. Professors
are they out trying to cure? Cancer? Now what are
they trying to? Do they're trying to outdo each other
with position papers and say they're one upping each. Other it's, like,
jackass what stupid stunt can you? Do that out does
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the last stupid? Stunt and by the Time Charlie kirk was,
eighteen time to go to, college he tasted the what
the poison in the water well before many others tasted.
It and he's like our generation is going to have
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to pay for. This and so he used the economy
during the T party movement to reach out to his,
generation and he went to the. Campuses and then it
morphed into The as the cultural revolution swept Over america
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in the twenty, tens he was there and he had
to block and tackle on. That but now we have
the confluence of political thought and religious belief coming. Together
and where else is? That it's in The Middle. East
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we Have east Meets. West now we Have Middle east Meets.
Midwest now when do we get to march and demand
the system change to protect our, values our, beliefs to
protect our, spokespeople to protect our, leaders our, kids our.
Country why is there even AN us versus? Them when
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did we becoming us versus? Them who are? They the
temperature in the country is completely different than it was
in sixty. EIGHT i don't believe we were this divided
in sixty. Eight there are operators on the other side
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of the world who want to see civil war on
this side of the. World epstein most likely worked for
operators on the other side of the. World at LEAST
i Believe Israel massad maybe our own intelligence, agent people
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within our own intelligence Agencies crooks And butler pa if
he wasn't working for, someone WHICH i don't know that he.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Was he was in a commercial For Blackwker.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Crooks if he wasn't working for someone who was working with?
Them Ruth and who's this? Guy we still don't know
anything about this.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Guy But, ukraine.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Social media is the fentanyl of the minds of the
most vulnerable, population ages ten to thirty. Five but back
to my question from one or two segments, ago what
if the other, side what if our our other brothers
and sisters don't get? It what if they just don't get?
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It what do we do? NEXT i, Mean Charlie kirk
loved the people on the other side of the debate.
Table he was the big brother Of america's youth craved
and if you don't think we're at, war you're. Wrong
we've been at. War charlie knew the threats going, in
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he knew he had a security, detail but he needs
presidential he. Anyone, NOW i guess if you're going to
go to a college, campus The citadel free speech and
speak to young, minds you're going to have to have
presidential level of security with counter. Snipers you're at least
going to need a drone. Operator Charlie kirk was killed
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for asking questions and encouraging young people to ask questions
of those elders who are telling them something. Else you
know who else was killed for talking to the, Youth.
Socrates you know who else was killed for Talking Jesus,
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jesus as was Doctor Martin Luther King. General let's talk
about The democrat. Response let's talk about Your Don, lemons
Your Van, jones YOUR msnbc, folks Your New York times, reporters.
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Podcasters where are they on all?
Speaker 2 (29:12):
This, well they have sped up their demise. Inexorably you've
got a guy Like Matthew dowd AT msnbc who says
that his first idea, is, well we don't know that
this was an. Assassination this may have been some celebratory
gunfire from someone in the. Crowd this is what this
is the first thing that he comes out. With this
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is what passes for genius on their. Side and then he, says,
well you, know when you talk about hateful things and
you act in a hateful, way hateful things will happen to. You,
well he's been fired, now and it's perhaps maybe.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
If he was. FIRED i believe he was. Suspended WELL
i heard that he was, fired and quite right.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Too but you, Know charlie was an advocate for free,
speech and one of the things he realized about free
speech was its role in and sometimes the greatest arguments
that can be made for your side are made by
the other. Side as, lawyers we've all had that witness
for the other side that we do not want to.
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Interrupt we want that person to speak and speak and.
Speak and that is what came out of the mouths
of these people in the last few, hours and it's
revealed who they.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
ARE i have to remind all our listeners and All
americans from the founding of The United, states our leaders
young and, old from Young Alexander hamilton all the way
up To Benjamin. Franklin these men studied, history they studied.
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Power they understood the daisy chain of alliances and foreign.
Entanglements they understand. It they understand. It they understood the religious,
differences the cultural, differences the economic. Differences and you have
to let other parts of the world engage in self.
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Determination it's not our, burden, or As Rudyard kipling, wrote
the White man's burden to go. Help the quote uncivilized
that The english aristocracy used as cover for their imperialistic
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colonialism ways to extract not only the natural resources from
their parts of the, world but also their. Inhabitants And
George washington in his seventeen ninety six farewell, address AND
i think this is very relevant today on nine to
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Eleven Charlie kirk's death plus, One George washington advised our
young nation to avoid permanent. Alliances why because we would
become enslaved by habitual hatred or habitual fondness for other.
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Countries think about. That how wise Was George. Washington now
you understand why they wanted him to be. President they
wanted him to be president. Again they wanted him to
be president again and again and. Again and there were
some extremely well qualified men waiting in the. Wings Alexander
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hamilton never had a, Chance Thomas. Jefferson these guys were
waiting in the. Wings John adams was absolutely. Brilliant he
was Not George. Washington why couldn't we stick To George
washington's well informed wisdom avoid permanent, alliances to avoid being
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enslaved by habitual hatred and habitual fondness for other, countries
and for our first half of our nation we largely
heeded his. Council but by the late eighteen hundreds early
nineteen hundreds we began dabbling and overseas, markets which led
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to military. Interventions it's All we can trace this all
back To George washington's farewell, words and you can see
the domestic changes here in and the nineteen. Hundreds in
The wilson, administration The Federal reserve was. Created in nineteen.
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Thirteen The Sixteenth amendment authorized federal income tax direct tax
on your. Labor those two tools dramatically expanded the federal
government's financial capacity just in time For World War, one
and that new income tax proved. Critical half our war's
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cost was paid aid through the wages and labors of
men and, women and the Fledgling Federal reserve underwrote the
war effort by facilitating, massive massive liberty bond, sales providing
cheap credit to banks financing The European war. Period and
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at the end of The Great, war The European, War
World War, one what. Happened germany was forced to, acceptplain
forced to pay crushing, reparations forced to Forfeit germanic speaking
territory and Gave france And britain a free hand to
carve up the. World Yet Woodrow wilson goes to preach
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self determination And versailles self. Determination you know who was
there to go see? Him who's n hochi minh oh self?
Determination so coming out Of World war, two we're self.
Determination we just artificially drew lines through the sand and
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over the mountains and said this is your. State this
is your new, state regardless of, culture, language, religion or people's.
Will my, opinion the Post World WAR ii settlement and
the Post World WAR i settlement were terrible. Ideas it Humiliated,
Germany it denied true self determination to, Millions it breeded
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resentment all across the, world and it forced The german
speaking people to. Coalesce they, nationalized and a, power a
leadership vacuum was there for a lunatic to come in
and take. Over Even George, kennon the most probably the
most Famous american diplomat of the twentieth, century agrees with.
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This we there's so much to talk about on, this
so much to talk about on. This influential voices The
America First, Committee Charles Lindberg JOSEPH. P, kennedy these Mister
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luce who Owned Time? Life is It claire booth?
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Loose.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Yes husband argued That europe's wars Were europe's problem And
american boys should not have to die for foreign. Causes
i'm not sure that we would have gotten Into World
war two if it wasn't For Pearl. HARBOR i, Mean
World war two was three years in And france was,
Gone holland was. Gone you, know most Of europe was
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Under nazi control and THE Uk england was on the.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Ropes germany declared war on us before we declared war on,
Them so.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
You, know at the end of the, day we thought
That World war, two ACTIVE us leadership would stabilize the.
World those are people that apparently didn't study world. History
we created an eighty years now of a Permanent american entanglement.
Overseas and unless we have a real honest, conversation if
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we are the nation of self, determination then you're gonna
have to let other, people other, nations other countries figure
it out for. Themselves we do not have the, burden
neither moral or, otherwise to go pick a, side because
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you know, what you might pick the wrong, side like
we did In.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Afghanistan we can't go around robbing these people of Their
George washington's.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
What happened in nineteen fifty. Three iran became an early
example of this of our. Intervention we now KNOW cia
With british intelligence engineer to coup to Overthrow iran's elected
Prime Mohammad. Mosaic what was he. Doing he was nationalizing
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a Rand's british controlled oil. Industry, huh you can't have.
That you can't have. That so A cia sponsored coup
put in The shah and The shaw promptly Rewards western
oil companies with lucrative. Concessions The United states, Companies United
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states oil executives received estimated forty percent Of iran's oil.
Fields and we've done that over and over and, over
just As Charlie kirk took a headneck, shot and you
wind up coalescing people who are pissed off about. It
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we've been doing that for. Decades it's time to. Stop
We are recording the show just eighteen hours after the
assassination of Charlie Kirk. It's a somber day. It's also
nine to eleven. The symbolism is hard to miss, isn't it.
When my cell phone started to blow up yesterday afternoon
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about three point fifteen, very first thing that I saw
was a video clip sent to me by a friend
on a text thread, one of the many text threads
that I was on yesterday. And I had no warning,
I didn't know anything that simply said WTF exclamation point.
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I clicked on it, and it was the video of
Charlie Kirk's assassination. I'll never forget it. Most of us,
I would imagine our listeners were not around when JFK
was shot, or Doctor King Bobby Kennedy. If you were,
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you may not remember it. But this isn't This isn't
a moment in American history and the general and I
as conservative historian, contemporary political thinking, contemplative thoughts of what's
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going on in the world, How does it boil down
to the dining room and the family room. I consider
Charlie Kirk's assassination to be a canary in the coal mine.
When I was in law school, I couldn't understand after
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the fall of the Iron Curtain, that the fall of
the curtain, the pardon me, the Soviet Union, why we
needed to put boots on the ground in every other
part of the world. One school of thought was, well,
we're not going to do this to stemy communism. That's over.
(02:27):
That's what we were told. We were going to go
put boots on the ground across the world to stemy
and contain communism. Well, then, what was our next mission?
Why did we put boots on the ground in the Balkans,
Why did we put boots on the ground in the
Middle East? Why did we put boots on the ground
(02:50):
in parts of the world that we've never heard of?
And I believe those decisions made in the early nineties
have led us to where we are now. Where a
non politician, Christian fact strong Christian faith, non politician, young
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man going to college campuses, debating the young men and
young women who were there, taking in the support of
the young men and young women who were there, but
engaging them to think critically because they were not being
taught to think critically. He knew that, but he also
(03:39):
knew that his generation didn't have tailwinds behind them like
perhaps my generation and my parents' generation economic tailwinds. He
knew as a young man that the economic wins were
going to be in their face. Back to the nineties,
(04:01):
one side of the political ledger said, tax and spend
democrats and take this democracy to other parts of the
world against their will. We weren't backing republican revolutionaries in
the Middle East. We were backing anyone that was going
(04:25):
to disrupt the nationalization of oil. Samuel Huntington, Professor Huntington
of Harvard wrote a first a master piece in Foreign
Affairs and then a book Class of Civilizations. He predicted
what we are experiencing now. If you go over there
(04:46):
and kick the hornets nests, you will bring that medieval
thinking to the United States. If you go over there
and kick the hornets nest, you're going to bring over
revolutionary ideas that are not pro republican, that are not
pro democratic. They're going to call themselves liberals, but they're
actually illiberals. To execute a man who represented the best
(05:10):
of America while maintaining civility, not seeking political office is
an escalation perhaps never seen before in our two hundred
and fifty years, an invisible line has been crossed. We
thought that maybe when in Butler, PA. We thought that
with mandatory vaccines, We thought that with martial law, during COVID,
(05:32):
We thought that during mail in ballots. But this is
an invisible line that aircraft carriers, reaper drones and stealth
aircraft cannot fight. Men in uniform. Men and women in
uniform cannot fight this battle. This one is for every
American not in uniform. We have failed to teach our
youth for the last thirty years how to separate rhetoric
(05:56):
from reality. Who was Charlie Kirk a threat to? Who
is Charlie Kirk truly a threat to? Well? I ask
you three questions. Question number one, where did Charlie Kirk
take his thoughts and beliefs American universities? Who did he
speak to university students? Where was he killed at an
(06:16):
American university or in Utah will now have its own infamy?
Why American universities? Why did Charlie Kirk, a young man
graced with a genius, take his message to American universities? Because,
as we have been saying for a long time, it
is the incubator of critical theory, assassinated in front of
(06:40):
his wife and house Democrats shout down, Charlie Kirk, moment
of silence, another invisible line. I'll get back to them
in the moment later in the show with the General.
But name other Americans who have had this much influence
at such a young age. I can Edward Rutledge, South Carolina,
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twenty six years old, the very youngest signer of the
Declaration of Independence, Thomas Lynch Junior, also South Carolina. Thomas
Hayward Junior, also South Carolina. Benjamin Rush thirty years old.
Other young founding figures. James Monroe was only eighteen he
dropped out of college to join the Continental Army. Alexander
(07:24):
Hamilton was only nineteen when he became Washington's aid de camp.
Aaron Burr was only twenty when he joined the Continental Army.
John Marshall, future Chief Justice, was twenty years old when
he served at Valley Forge. Henry Knox twenty five years
old when he hauled a cannon from Fort Ticonderoga to Boston,
(07:46):
helped driving the British out Why because invisible lines were
crossed the point at which colonial frustration with the ruling
class shifted from grievance is that they thought could be
negotiated to a point where reconciliation was impossible. And that's
(08:08):
what we're going to talk about, this invisible line. After
the break, the generals in studio with me, We're going
to ponder what this really means. I'm Brad Kaffel. This
is for the defense of the American people. On six' TEN.
Wtvn we are recording the show On september. Eleven on
nine to, Eleven it's a day that every YEAR i block.
(08:31):
OUT i don't take, APPOINTMENTS i don't talk to. Clients
i've done this every day since nine to, eleven AND
i never thought. THAT i just never thought that on
nine to, eleven or any day any of the other
(08:52):
three hundred and sixty four, days we would be talking
about the, horrific Bloody kennedy esque assassination of a, young
very popular Conservative american exercising His First amendment right free
(09:15):
speech at the citadel of free. Speech the irony is.
Unbelievable an invisible line has been. Crossed and maybe this
is an invisible line that was similar to when Doctor
king was, Assassinated but for sure there was a boiling
point of frustration with the ruling class The British empire
(09:37):
From britain that moved from just griping and grievances that
the men of the day in seventeen seventy six thought
could still be, negotiated but it took a decade or
two to get to the point where they realized reconciliation was.
Impossible that just. Revisit let's dust off the history books real.
(09:58):
Quick number one was taxi without. Representation taxation shifted from
regulation of trade tariffs to direct internal. Taxes that's an
existential threat to self. Government direct taxation was never supposed
to be part Of it was not part of The
(10:19):
American Operating code until The progressives took over during The wilson.
Administration direct taxation of your, property direct taxation of your
income is an existential threat to self. Government if you
don't own your, property your, labor and the fruits of
(10:42):
your labor, unencumbered then you will not have a stake in.
Society and if you don't have a stake in your,
neighborhood in your, village in your, city in your, state
and your, nation then you're an empty vessel that can
be filled with the poison that's being poured into many
(11:03):
of our Fellow. Americans Number two suppressing. Descent King george
The third sent in an occupying army without local consent
to silence. Dissenters, well what happens when you convert from
soldiers to. Algorithms number three a denial of local, autonomy
(11:31):
the disillusion of colonial legislatures Like. Massachusetts In, virginia the
king revoked their. Charters charters guarantee local self. Rule and
when politics and decision making is all the way at
(11:52):
the top and a central body of men and women
that don't have your best interests at, heart then you
have a denial of local. Autonomy then you have the
punishment of collective, descent not just punishing one, individual but
an entire. Community that's what's happening to the white. Community
(12:18):
it's what's happening to The christian. Community it's what's happening
to the economic nationalist. Community it's what's happening to the
Make America Great again. Community it has been a punishment
of our collective. Descent what else are? Similarities a subordination of.
(12:39):
Justice there's a two tier justice. System laws were broken
By british. Soldiers they were treated differently than if the
same laws were broken by. Colonists is there a two
tier justice system between the rule class and the? Rest
(13:03):
but what put it over the? Edge? Bloodshed the moment
shots were, fired those invisible lines turned. Tangible the ruling
classes policies crossed from being unpopular to being seen as
fundamental violations of liberty and self, government breaches of. Trust
(13:29):
the invisible lines of trust continue to be. Broken so
the question now is what do you? Do what do
you do? Now what do you do with the other,
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side whoever they, are and they should know who they.
Are if you don't have the same level of disgust
THAT i do and The general does and so many
millions Of americans, have if you don't have the same
specific level of, disgust then you may be part of.
(14:15):
Them and we highly encourage those listeners to take a
step back and understand what's really happening. Here this is
not about gun, Control this is not About Charlie kirk
(14:37):
shouldn't have been so. Divisive polite society has tolerated radical
ideas a bit too. Long we TOLERATED covid mail in,
ballots open, borders the great, Reset butler pa attempted assassination
(15:02):
Of trump At West, palm attacks on Ice National guard
in The big, cities shooting of kids In catholic, schools
the slang of The ukrainian girl on the bus or,
train and Then Charlie kirk On september, tenth twenty twenty,
five the fusion Of christian revivalism and modern. Politics Billy
(15:27):
graham with a dash of Rush limbaugh gets, assassinated and
after the, break The general AND i are going to
talk about what Made Charlie kirk's message resonate and why
was he so. Popular everybody who had any contact With Charlie,
(15:51):
kirk they all say the same. Thing he was, humble
he was a. Servant he was very strong in his.
Beliefs why because two thousand years of truths in those
sacred texts aren't. Wrong ask my clients who go to.
(16:16):
Prison you know what they wind up reading over and over.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
The?
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Bible do you know what they say before they stand
before the judge as the judge is going to pronounce
sentence that they're turning their life over To Jesus. Christ
they Are they understand, it they get. It, now that's
(16:44):
What charlie's talking. About that's the class of. Civilizations but
his entree was the bank, bailout the great fraud committed
on The american, workers where our tax dollars were used
to bail out big banks because we were told they're
(17:05):
too big to. Fail, no, no let them. Go we
don't need fifty five inch flat screen TVs for four hundred.
Dollars we really. Don't we do not want to raise
children to be serfs in a rental economy where they're
going to work three jobs to afford their. Rent forget
(17:30):
about owning a. Home they're being told that being married
with kids is some sort OF i don't, KNOW i
don't know what they call. It but where are these
young kids getting this? Stuff Where charlie was speaking to
(17:51):
them on college, campuses also in social, media he knew
instinctively two. Things his generation was losing any ownership ownership
stake in society while the wealth is increasing all the
way at the top among the ownership. Elite but there
(18:11):
is another way besides radical professor endorsed tearing down the.
System there is another, way and that's What charlie was talking.
About all, right this is for the defense of The american.
People we are recording specifically by design On september, eleven
(18:33):
and we just certainly were not expecting to have to
talk About Charlie kirk's, demise his. Assassination, general you heard
my first two. Segments what are your?
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Thoughts, well it seems to me That Charlie kirk was
killed for two. Reasons, first he was a genius at
persuading entrenched in doc grenated college aged leftists to rethink their,
positions and that is an existential threat to the. Left,
second and more, importantly these leftists are consumed with filling
(19:13):
others with the same hate that has ruined. Them they
want you to feel that, hatred and you must refuse.
Delivery if those on the left, imagine, however that this
will silence, us they have very vivid. Imaginations and for
those of you out there who are thinking about how
(19:36):
we need to match violence with, Violence charlie would say
that you are thinking like a leftist and that that
is how they get their hooks into. You how you
act in response to this should be governed by one.
Question If Charlie kirk were standing next to you when
you did what you were thinking about, doing would he?
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Approve? Yeah, this, well Said General this is not a
violence meets violence. Scenario you don't need to go that
when you have truth on your, side and you, KNOW
i guess for me, PERSONALLY i can't speak for everyone,
else but for, Me i've just kind of biding my, time,
(20:17):
waiting waiting.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
For.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Me my conversion started very. Early in nineteen eighty. EIGHT
i voted For George, Bush Ronald reagan's vice. PRESIDENT i
was looking forward to a continuation Of Ronald reagan's, policies, thinking,
(20:41):
messaging and Unfortunately GEORGE. H. W bush fumbled a big.
Time he fumbled big time period And Ross perrot stepped
in in ninety two to sound the alarm, bells AND,
i to, me, instinctively Everything ross pro was saying in
ninety two made. SENSE i was twenty four years, old
(21:08):
AND i got. It it made sense to. ME i
voted for pro in ninety. Two, unfortunately those of us
that voted For perrot allowed the New democrat and a
whole new breed Of. Democrat we've touched on this in prior.
Shows The republicans had such a stranglehold on The White
(21:29):
house and federal government that in the mid, eighties Young Bill,
clinton as the charismatic. High Iq rhodes, Scholar yale grad
governor From. Arkansas probably not too hard to rise at
the top of the political party there In arkansas with those,
(21:51):
creds had some big money behind. Him Think, arkansas what's down?
There and they created The Democrat Leadership conference in the mid,
eighties and the whole idea, was we need to, rebrand
we need a new type Of democrat party to unseat These,
(22:12):
republicans these. Conservatives and he said all the right. Things
he was, charismatic he was for you, know his kitchen sink.
Politics It's James carville's it's the economy. Stupid and as
a result of The United states needing to outspend The
(22:34):
Soviet union to get them to, implode we put a
huge debt on our books And George bush, Said i'm
pledged if you lect, me we're not raising. Taxes and
he got in there and he realized, that, well it's
you can't cut it's too hard to cut from the.
(22:57):
Budget i'm going to have to raise taxes.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
And the.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Economy not only did the economy suffer with a, recession
he broke a major pledge promise and the perfect. Storm
Ross perrot stepped in siphoned away a lot of smart,
votes And Bill, clinton, charismatic young, charmer got in there
(23:23):
with his New democrat The New Democrat, party and That
New Democrat party is his birthed offspring that didn't go
didn't stay to the. Center they went far left and
they were. Supported they got air support from The ivys
(23:47):
and the revolutionaries of the sixties who never left, campus stuck,
around got their, PhDs still didn't leave, campus got their,
fellowship still didn't leave, campus became a professor who still
didn't leave, campus became tenured. Professor and how does a
professor make their? Name do they? Do they? Do they
(24:08):
the political scientists and thinkers and sociologists and philosophical. Professors
are they out trying to cure? Cancer? Now what are
they trying to? Do they're trying to outdo each other
with position papers and say they're one upping each. Other it's, like,
jackass what stupid stunt can you? Do that out does
(24:31):
the last stupid? Stunt and by the Time Charlie kirk was,
eighteen time to go to, college he tasted the what
the poison in the water well before many others tasted.
It and he's like our generation is going to have
(24:52):
to pay for. This and so he used the economy
during the T party movement to reach out to his,
generation and he went to the. Campuses and then it
morphed into The as the cultural revolution swept Over america
(25:16):
in the twenty, tens he was there and he had
to block and tackle on. That but now we have
the confluence of political thought and religious belief coming. Together
and where else is? That it's in The Middle. East
(25:40):
we Have east Meets. West now we Have Middle east Meets.
Midwest now when do we get to march and demand
the system change to protect our, values our, beliefs to
protect our, spokespeople to protect our, leaders our, kids our.
Country why is there even AN us versus? Them when
(26:03):
did we becoming us versus? Them who are? They the
temperature in the country is completely different than it was
in sixty. EIGHT i don't believe we were this divided
in sixty. Eight there are operators on the other side
(26:27):
of the world who want to see civil war on
this side of the. World epstein most likely worked for
operators on the other side of the. World at LEAST
i Believe Israel massad maybe our own intelligence, agent people
(26:50):
within our own intelligence Agencies crooks And butler pa if
he wasn't working for, someone WHICH i don't know that he.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Was he was in a commercial For Blackwker.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Crooks if he wasn't working for someone who was working with?
Them Ruth and who's this? Guy we still don't know
anything about this.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Guy But, ukraine.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Social media is the fentanyl of the minds of the
most vulnerable, population ages ten to thirty. Five but back
to my question from one or two segments, ago what
if the other, side what if our our other brothers
and sisters don't get? It what if they just don't get?
(27:42):
It what do we do? NEXT i, Mean Charlie kirk
loved the people on the other side of the debate.
Table he was the big brother Of america's youth craved
and if you don't think we're at, war you're. Wrong
we've been at. War charlie knew the threats going, in
(28:03):
he knew he had a security, detail but he needs
presidential he. Anyone, NOW i guess if you're going to
go to a college, campus The citadel free speech and
speak to young, minds you're going to have to have
presidential level of security with counter. Snipers you're at least
going to need a drone. Operator Charlie kirk was killed
(28:27):
for asking questions and encouraging young people to ask questions
of those elders who are telling them something. Else you
know who else was killed for talking to the, Youth.
Socrates you know who else was killed for Talking Jesus,
(28:48):
jesus as was Doctor Martin Luther King. General let's talk
about The democrat. Response let's talk about Your Don, lemons
Your Van, jones YOUR msnbc, folks Your New York times, reporters.
(29:09):
Podcasters where are they on all?
Speaker 2 (29:12):
This, well they have sped up their demise. Inexorably you've
got a guy Like Matthew dowd AT msnbc who says
that his first idea, is, well we don't know that
this was an. Assassination this may have been some celebratory
gunfire from someone in the. Crowd this is what this
is the first thing that he comes out. With this
(29:32):
is what passes for genius on their. Side and then he, says,
well you, know when you talk about hateful things and
you act in a hateful, way hateful things will happen to. You,
well he's been fired, now and it's perhaps maybe.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
If he was. FIRED i believe he was. Suspended WELL
i heard that he was, fired and quite right.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Too but you, Know charlie was an advocate for free,
speech and one of the things he realized about free
speech was its role in and sometimes the greatest arguments
that can be made for your side are made by
the other. Side as, lawyers we've all had that witness
for the other side that we do not want to.
(30:09):
Interrupt we want that person to speak and speak and.
Speak and that is what came out of the mouths
of these people in the last few, hours and it's
revealed who they.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
ARE i have to remind all our listeners and All
americans from the founding of The United, states our leaders
young and, old from Young Alexander hamilton all the way
up To Benjamin. Franklin these men studied, history they studied.
(30:42):
Power they understood the daisy chain of alliances and foreign.
Entanglements they understand. It they understand. It they understood the religious,
differences the cultural, differences the economic. Differences and you have
to let other parts of the world engage in self.
(31:04):
Determination it's not our, burden, or As Rudyard kipling, wrote
the White man's burden to go. Help the quote uncivilized
that The english aristocracy used as cover for their imperialistic
(31:27):
colonialism ways to extract not only the natural resources from
their parts of the, world but also their. Inhabitants And
George washington in his seventeen ninety six farewell, address AND
i think this is very relevant today on nine to
(31:47):
Eleven Charlie kirk's death plus, One George washington advised our
young nation to avoid permanent. Alliances why because we would
become enslaved by habitual hatred or habitual fondness for other.
(32:08):
Countries think about. That how wise Was George. Washington now
you understand why they wanted him to be. President they
wanted him to be president. Again they wanted him to
be president again and again and. Again and there were
some extremely well qualified men waiting in the. Wings Alexander
(32:28):
hamilton never had a, Chance Thomas. Jefferson these guys were
waiting in the. Wings John adams was absolutely. Brilliant he
was Not George. Washington why couldn't we stick To George
washington's well informed wisdom avoid permanent, alliances to avoid being
(32:54):
enslaved by habitual hatred and habitual fondness for other, countries
and for our first half of our nation we largely
heeded his. Council but by the late eighteen hundreds early
nineteen hundreds we began dabbling and overseas, markets which led
(33:16):
to military. Interventions it's All we can trace this all
back To George washington's farewell, words and you can see
the domestic changes here in and the nineteen. Hundreds in
The wilson, administration The Federal reserve was. Created in nineteen.
(33:37):
Thirteen The Sixteenth amendment authorized federal income tax direct tax
on your. Labor those two tools dramatically expanded the federal
government's financial capacity just in time For World War, one
and that new income tax proved. Critical half our war's
(33:58):
cost was paid aid through the wages and labors of
men and, women and the Fledgling Federal reserve underwrote the
war effort by facilitating, massive massive liberty bond, sales providing
cheap credit to banks financing The European war. Period and
(34:20):
at the end of The Great, war The European, War
World War, one what. Happened germany was forced to, acceptplain
forced to pay crushing, reparations forced to Forfeit germanic speaking
territory and Gave france And britain a free hand to
carve up the. World Yet Woodrow wilson goes to preach
(34:43):
self determination And versailles self. Determination you know who was
there to go see? Him who's n hochi minh oh self?
Determination so coming out Of World war, two we're self.
Determination we just artificially drew lines through the sand and
(35:04):
over the mountains and said this is your. State this
is your new, state regardless of, culture, language, religion or people's.
Will my, opinion the Post World WAR ii settlement and
the Post World WAR i settlement were terrible. Ideas it Humiliated,
Germany it denied true self determination to, Millions it breeded
(35:26):
resentment all across the, world and it forced The german
speaking people to. Coalesce they, nationalized and a, power a
leadership vacuum was there for a lunatic to come in
and take. Over Even George, kennon the most probably the
most Famous american diplomat of the twentieth, century agrees with.
(35:48):
This we there's so much to talk about on, this
so much to talk about on. This influential voices The
America First, Committee Charles Lindberg JOSEPH. P, kennedy these Mister
(36:11):
luce who Owned Time? Life is It claire booth?
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Loose.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Yes husband argued That europe's wars Were europe's problem And
american boys should not have to die for foreign. Causes
i'm not sure that we would have gotten Into World
war two if it wasn't For Pearl. HARBOR i, Mean
World war two was three years in And france was,
Gone holland was. Gone you, know most Of europe was
(36:37):
Under nazi control and THE Uk england was on the.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Ropes germany declared war on us before we declared war on,
Them so.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
You, know at the end of the, day we thought
That World war, two ACTIVE us leadership would stabilize the.
World those are people that apparently didn't study world. History
we created an eighty years now of a Permanent american entanglement.
Overseas and unless we have a real honest, conversation if
(37:14):
we are the nation of self, determination then you're gonna
have to let other, people other, nations other countries figure
it out for. Themselves we do not have the, burden
neither moral or, otherwise to go pick a, side because
(37:36):
you know, what you might pick the wrong, side like
we did In.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Afghanistan we can't go around robbing these people of Their
George washington's.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
What happened in nineteen fifty. Three iran became an early
example of this of our. Intervention we now KNOW cia
With british intelligence engineer to coup to Overthrow iran's elected
Prime Mohammad. Mosaic what was he. Doing he was nationalizing
(38:09):
a Rand's british controlled oil. Industry, huh you can't have.
That you can't have. That so A cia sponsored coup
put in The shah and The shaw promptly Rewards western
oil companies with lucrative. Concessions The United states, Companies United
(38:30):
states oil executives received estimated forty percent Of iran's oil.
Fields and we've done that over and over and, over
just As Charlie kirk took a headneck, shot and you
wind up coalescing people who are pissed off about. It
(38:50):
we've been doing that for. Decades it's time to. Stop
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