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October 31, 2025 38 mins
If FDR gave America "The New Deal", what was the Original Deal? That was the first generation MAGA from 1890-1930
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
General looks like at this point in time, we're going
to do two shows a month. How you don't he
a dear with that?

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Oh yeah, I prefer more of us. I do a
little bit more.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
But here's the thing. You know, if I think if
we try to do a show one show, we we're
gonna get caught up in the rat race the story
of the day, and we really I think what separates
our show, what we try to do that separates our
show from the other shows, is to take a bigger picture,
longer look, a historical lens.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
A bigger, fatter picture.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Yeah. So to that end, I have I subscribe to
impremise from Hillsdale, right familiar. Oh yes, and once.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
You should see the centerfolds on those things.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Once a monow once a month. The Hillsdale one of
maybe two American universities that don't take any federal dollars.
I think the other one's Liberty. There may be more,
but the September edition is the significance of the recently
released Russia hoax documents. Okay, I'm putting this in the

(01:08):
category of politics as usual. It's just politics that there's
always chicanery, there's always lying deceiving. It's politics log rolling.
If you're you can go to prison if someone decides
at one point in time that what you did cross

(01:30):
the line in politics. Like our friend, our dear friend,
the former governor of Illinois.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yes, uh, he said that he's not a trumpetcrab, He's.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
A trump Voiovitch Love Blogo so September edition says the
significance of the recently released Russia hoax documents. So I
read this and didn't learn a lot. But you know,
because we've paid attention to this story since twenty seventeen,
I think we spotted it very early. General on our
show you can go back to. I mean, our show
started in twenty seventeen, the summer of twenty seventeen, and

(02:07):
the first show, you know, the show is supposed to
be a law show, criminal law show, talk about contemporary
criminal law things.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
But then once they emerged criminal law with politics.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
I think our first show we talked about Tiger Woods
getting arrested for DUI down in Florida and he thought
he was in California.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
But our second show, it's an easy mistake to make.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
The second show, which is the first show you joined me,
We're like, wait, a minute, what's going on with Donald Trump?
Is he really a Russian asset? I mean? Or are
they lying to us? And then from there the show
just caught fire.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Right. Well, there's a lot of Bill Cosby stuff too
that we talked about.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
We did until kind of figure out where we are.
The October issue of and premise says lawlessness is a choice.
So again this is I just put this into the
politics as usual. You're always going to have poverty, you're
always going to have lawlessness, and you're always going to
have politics, which is a combination of impoverished men and

(03:12):
women with low character who break the law for political
gain political power.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
I think we also have to stress though, that poverty
is relative. The poor people of today live like the
Kings of England did back in the sixteen hundreds.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Then I found I collect rare first edition historical books.
It's can to become a hobby.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
I collect unauthorized autobiographies.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Man versus the Welfare State. Unauthorized autobiographies I caught that
mayn Versus the Welfare State written by Henry Hazlitt And
for you nerds out there, that's haz lit t And
it was written in nineteen hundred and sixty eight, right

(04:01):
as lbj's Great Society is taking root. And Henry Hazlitt
was a reporter for four decades leading up to this,
all through the FDR. I'm sorry, yeah, through FDR forties, fifties, sixties.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
I think he's a CUB reporter going back to nineteen thirteen.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Wasn't he? He's an oldie, right, So he's an old
guard American investigative journalist who watched the birth of this
modern welfare state and modern administrative state in the modern
military state. But this is wonderful book. Man Versus the
Welfare State. No, if you take these three things that

(04:48):
I just mentioned, the significance of the recently released Russia
hoaxed documents, lawlessness is a choice that being just your
big city crime and man versus the welfare state. Which
one of these fits our show the most.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
I'll give you a hint.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
I'm gonna hold it up.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Here for you. Would that be man versus the well
the welfare state? Yeah? I didn't see the other, okay,
but I was just guessing.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Now this weaves directly into everything that's happening in America
right now. If you look at our foreign policy if
you look at our domestic policy, we now have a
nation that is dependent upon other nations, and we have
people that are dependent upon the federal government. So you

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have this the birth of this welfare state. And clearly
there there's room in the United States of America. With
the amount of wealth that's been made, there's absolutely no
reason that we should have people who are unable to
work to not have any have any money. People who

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are sick, ill, elderly, our children all should be taken
care of. And that's been that that that function has
been delegated, that moral duty general has been delegated to
the federal government to the point now where dignity is missing.

(06:21):
I'm not sure a lot of people even know what
the word how to define dignity. But let me let me,
let me break this down here. So I think American
needs a new deal. That deal being the dignity of
work and leave me alone. That was America's story for
the first half of our of our nation's, our republic's life.

(06:46):
That was it. The American promise was the dignity of
work and leave me alone. That was the first American deal.
Then FDR came up.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
With the he's called the new Deal.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
The new Deal. Well, does everyone ever asked the new deal?
What was the first deal? Well, the first deal America
ran on a very simple social contract. I mean, it
wasn't reduced to writing. It was just understood. Foreign policy
summed up in one line from Washington's Farewell Address, No
foreign entanglements, very easy foreign policy. Domestic policy summarized by

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another line, again never written, but universally understood. Mind your
own business. Now, the government didn't take a bite out
of your paycheck for the first half from first one
hundred and twenty five years, not.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
A direct bite. But tariffs did cost a little bit.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah, but it wasn't This wasn't a direct tax. It
didn't they did. There was no there was no income
tax exactly. Not only was income tax of foreign concept.
It was so radical. Not only was it a foreign concept,
it was. It's so radical because it was specifically in
the constitution, no direct taxes on citizens.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Right.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Also, the federal government didn't tell you how to run
your shop or your farm. Unbelievably foreign concept to the
first half of our country citizens.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Well, I remember this is how unbelievable it was to
me when the first time I ever went into Canada.
My dad was explaining to me that all of the
shopkeepers in Quebec had to use French signs even though
they were English, and they didn't even know what the
science said. I said, they have freedom of speech, don't they,
And he said, we're not in that country. Yep.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
If you succeeded, it was because you worked hard, you
made good judgments, and you accepted risk. If you failed,
there was no safety net to catch you. But there
was also no ceiling stopping you from trying again. It
was the American system. It was a rough system. We
need it back because it produced something extraordinary. It produced

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a type of person, a man, woman, young adults who
had skin in the game, literally in the form of
calloused hands, sunburnt faces, but also figuratively, people who had
skin in the game. Dignity and your dignity. Your dignity

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comes from your effort and your ownership that silent, that
quiet enjoyment of an honest day's work. Your dignity doesn't
come from college degrees. Dignity doesn't come from pedigree. You
had a parcel land, a set of tools, a trade,

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a craft, and a conscience that told you that if
you wasted any of them. The fault was yours. So
you know what is dignity?

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Now.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
A few nights ago, watched Charlie Kirk at Turning Point
down an Ole, Miss Hatty Toddy, one of my girls,
goes and he he was asked questions because he picked
up where Charlie left off. Let the people, the contrarian
step forward and I'll talk to me. Here's the vice
president talking to the youth who specifically want to throw

(10:12):
them curveballs and fastballs. And he said the word, he
said the phrase the Bible says we're made in the
image of God? Is am I goo d Is that
how you pronounce it?

Speaker 2 (10:31):
I'm not sure what you're referring to.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
I am a g o DEEI I didn't take Latin.
Do you take Latin?

Speaker 2 (10:37):
I did? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
Hell you're taught Latin?

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Well, I never did in college.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
So if you find the Bible or Christianity offensive for
some reason, it means that every person must be treated
as a human being, not merely someone to make money off.
That is the entry point of what we're going to
talk about in the rest of the show. This is
what we all need to be focused on. Welcome back

(11:02):
for the defense of the American people. I'm Attorney Brad Koffel.
That is the general we're picking up on Turning Point, USA.
It was down at old miss Hatty Toddy all right,
and Erica kirk'spoke, beautiful, beautiful speaker, beautiful lady, so articulate,
so heartfelt, and Jade Van's vice president, Jady Vance comes

(11:27):
in and and kind of picks up for Charlie Kirk
left off where he would be answering questions. And I,
for some reason, if you're Christian, it's offensive to a
lot of other people that somehow there's that every person,
that the notion of Christianity is that every person must

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be treated as a human being. Somehow that's been lost
in translation, that the idea of a of a Christian
name means white supremacy. I don't know where this, I
don't know where this all started to come from.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Well, christ knew. He warned people. He said, if you
follow me, you will be reviled, you will be castigated,
you will be yelled at, there will be demons surrounding
you screaming at you. And the two thousand years ago
and he could make that prediction.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Wow, this show is about dignity. It's not about ice
rates in the cities it kind of is. It's not
about the government shutdown and EBT being turned off kind
of is. It's not about the political corruption of one

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administration or the political corruption of another administration kind of is.
But this is about dignity and what makes America unique
and what makes Americans unique, and what makes Americanism unique.
And I don't think it's in any other nation, any
other country. Not to say that citizens of other countries

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don't have dignity, of course they do. But dignity is
something that it's not something that's handed to you. It's
the natural byproduct of honest work, being responsible for yourself
and your community. And it's the quiet satisfaction that what
you have you've earned, and what you earn you keep.

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And like any other country that I'm aware of general,
one of the most important pieces of federal legislation ever
that nobody talks about ever. If I gave you an
hour and fifty guesses, you'd never get it. This federal
piece of this piece of federal legislation made Americans, made Americanism.

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You want to take a.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Guess, would that be the Homestead Act.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
Did I mention this to you? The Homestead Act of
eighteen hundred and sixty two. You refer to it as
it was.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
The whole idea is forty acres and a mule will
give these people some land. It's free for us, and
let's see what they can do with it. And they've
got to keep it for a while, make it productive
before they can sell it. And so this wasn't like
the land grants after the Revolutionary War, where the Revolutionary
soldiers just took their land and sold it to a cartel.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
The Homestead Act of eighteen hundred and sixty two one
hundred and sixty acres to anyone willing to live on
it and improve it. Now, dig down into a little bit,
Abe Lincoln signs it public land would be granted up
to one hundred and sixty acres to any adult citizen
or immigrant who intended to become a citizen. You agree

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to live on and improve the land for five years.
That mean build a home, work the land, cultivate the soil.
This picked up the Jeffersonian ideal of the independent yeoman,
the independent farmer, the independent producer sir, the independent service provider,

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and the notion that the nation's strength rested in the
virtue and self reliance of land owning citizens very very important.
And after five years you could file for what's called
a patent, but you got the deed to be the
owner of those acres. Ten percent of all US land,

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one point six million homesteaders, ten percent of all land
was deed it over to Americans under this plan. Your
Kansas is your Nebraska's, your Dakotas, your Montanas. Well, you
know it did accelerate moving the native tribes off. They

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didn't realize it was public land to be part of
the Homestead Act. I mean, that's different top, different story,
but this is what happened, women, men, blacks, freed slaves, immigrants,
the promise of land ownership through hundreds of thousands of
European immigrants, but millions, almost two million families go improve

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the land, have a stake, have ownership, work it till it,
cultivate it, defend it, earn it, earn it dignity. Once
you have a vested interest in your land, you have
a vested interest in your community. When you have a
vested interest in your community, then you self govern by
the way. General, did you know that the Homestead Act
wasn't repealed until the nineteen eighties.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
That I did not know.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Did you know that the last man to acquire public
lands under the Homestead Act of eighteen sixty two, It's
a guy named Ken Dierdorf in Alaska. Quick segue, sidebar.
He takes an eighty acre homestead on the Stony River
in Alaska, two hundred miles west of Anchorage. After high school,

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goes to Nam gets banged up, moves back to States,
moves to Alaska. In seventy four, files a homestead claim
for a piece of land on the Stony River. No roads.
The only way he could get there was plane, by
boat or foot. He cleared the land, built a log cabin, haunted, trapped,

(17:21):
farmed root vegetables, and even had a little store for
anyone that came through. Here's one of my favorite parts.
He purchased in nineteen forty five, Alice Chalmers Model se tractor.
In nineteen seventy six, dis assembled it fluid in pieces

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to his site, put it back together, and used it
to clear the stumps in the fields. That was in
nineteen eighty eight.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
To be fair, in nineteen eighty nine, Murray Flecknik found
some land in New Jersey that no one knew existed.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
This ideal of self reliance, property based citizenship is so important.
So when you have someone like Mam Donnie in AOC
and Gavin Newscomb and what's his name? Tim Waltz and
Kamala Harris, these people that that have aspirations to the
White House, and make no mistake, Mom Donnie has an

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absolute He's got a twelve year plan to get to
the White House. These people do not understand this. They
don't or if they do understand it, they believe that
the results are inequitable, unfair, that somehow self reliance and
property based citizenship is inequitable.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Can Mam Dami make it to the White House? I
thought he was born in Uganda? Yes, I maybe he
was raised.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Are you a birth Now we're gonna go back and
deal with this again.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Might have to.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
It's a good point. I haven't paid much attention to him.
But those Americans, they didn't need self esteem seminars. Dignity
was built into the work itself, and if you failed,
you tried again. But the federal government was there not
for welfare. The Founders gave citizens a remarkable instrument, the
right to petition the government for a redress of grievances,

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not for welfare, but to set things right if there
is something wrong in the system. Let's just say right now,
I'm reading a biography on LBJ and the Texas His
whole family, the Johnson's all come from Texas Hill Country.
They get out there, they've got longhorns, they've got cows.

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It's a very, very tough place to farm. By the
time they get there. Whatever they grow and whatever they raise,
they need to get them on trains to get them
to Kansas, to get them to auction. Well, the trains
rail charges crazy high rates. The banks are making it
so difficult for the Texas Hill Country people to get

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credit to participate in capitalism, so they petitioned for redress
to help that system out. Wasn't welfare. After the break,
I want to talk about the difference here in the
federal government and the right to petition for redress, and
it keeps your person's dignity intact as opposed to welfare,

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mercy and charity. It is humane, for sure, but that
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what America you know? We know FDR had the new
deal and I always wondered, well, what was the old deal. Well,
the old deal was gave you. We just gave an

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example the last two segments the eighteen sixty two federal
legislation of the Homestead Act. Get your wife, get your kids,
get your wagons, maybe get some protection and head west.
Get on that land for five years, improve it, till it,
farm it, grow it, defend it, have some steak in

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the game. And then you know what, let us know
you've been there, let us know what you've done, and
we'll give you the deed to those up to one
hundred and sixty acres ten percent of America's tillable land.
Was it was acquired that way, gifted, bequeathed from the
federal government, well, from the indigenous people to the army,

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to the federal government to the American people.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
And where did they get it from?

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Oh, oh, they got it from somebody. All right, Now,
there's this inflection point when do you go to the
federal government for help and maintain your dignity. That's petitions
for redress, that's keeps a person's dignity intact. You're appealing
to justice, not charity, not welfare, not mercy. That is.

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There's absolutely inside the American experiment, there is a humane society.
There's a humane not dogs, but there's a humane site.
There is a humanitarian side to the American experiment. But
it is not. Welfare is not the foundation of liberty.

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Paycheck without work is not the foundation of liberty. Ebt
cards are not the foundation of liberty. It is dependents.
In every decade, we have more and more of our
brothers and sisters that are becoming dependent upon this federal government.
And the only people that benefit from this type of
system are the Charlatans that are moving their way through

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the state houses, through the mayor's offices, to the state houses,
to the federal complex. They're the sixty four square miles
in DC, the village idiots, the commissars, who are the
ones that kind of dole out all these benefits.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
And they're in lives the attraction for them.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Right, but the same freedom they leave me alone. Freedom
that allowed blacksmiths and shopkeepers and ranchers and farmers to rise. Yes,
it also allowed a few industrialists to soar into the stratosphere,
but it's not That's not a reason or justification to

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scrap the system. You don't scrap Americanism by calling it
inequitable unfair. There's nothing unfair about this. Yes, Cornelius Vanderbilt
built a railroad empire that set the freight rates for

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most of the nation. Rockefeller perfected the trust model with
standard oil and controlled almost every drop of kerosene and
gasoline in the country. Yes, JP Morgan essentially became the
Federal Reserve before there was one. But they were the
products of the same rules as everyone else, only they

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learned to play the game with an entirely new set
of tools, consolidation, vertical integration, and political influence. The losers
in that equation were farmers, shop owners, small manufacturers who
suddenly found themselves crushed between monopoly prices and debt. But

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they still had their dignity. But they were running out
of options, And here you got the first MAGA population.
The populist uprising of the eighteen nineties and early nineteen hundreds,
The frustration of the Heartland was voiced by one of

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my favorite American characters, William Jennings Bryan of Nebraska, who
gave that unbelievable speech at such a young age. He
was Charlie Kirk's age thirty two in eighteen ninety six,
you shall not crucify mankind upon a cross of gold.
What was happening out west? You needed money for seed,

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for equipment, to purchase land. The money came for the banks,
and the banks could only loan based upon a percentage
of the gold they had in their reserves. Well, there's
a lot of silver out west, and out west, those
Americans with dignity said, it's a precious metal. Also, let

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banks hold silver as they're backing for their banknotes, so
we can continue to do our business with dignity and iron.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Rand would have said, why not.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Correct, And that was the idea to have both gold
and silver being used to back the banknotes, to expand
the money supply, to ease the debt burden on the farmers.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
And interesting enough, as much as the federal government was
supposedly against all of this, when William Jennings Bryan came about,
when World War One and World War two came about,
a lot of there were these things called silver dollar certificates.
That's right, and they would have they were actually the
same dollar bill, but they were blue instead of green.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Well, the populace got gobbled up by the Democrat part
now the Populace actually take that back, the Populace, the Populist,
the Maga, the original Maga. They definitely were not part
of the Republican Party, not the McKinley taft. No, no, no,
they were, they didn't really have it, but they had

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the Populist Party. But they as a result in the
two party system, they merged in to the Democrat Party
and they were ascending big time, big time until fancy
pants on the East coast. The elites saw what was
happening and needed to put an end to this populist
movement on the heartland, and they got one of their

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They got one of their own, Princeton President Woodrow Wilson
to become president, hardly a very unknown, you know, largely
unknown character, not any real skeletons in the closet. And
they ran Wilson in nineteen twelve and he wins. And

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between nineteen thirteen and nineteen seventeen the relationship between American
citizen and the American federal government changed forever. Three things.
Sixteenth Amendment gave Washington the power to tax your wages,
your earnings. The first, you don't make you work for

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the federal government until what May April.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Right now, you are tax livestock.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Secondly, the Federal Reserve. We gave the monopoly of money
to a group of men. We gave a monopoly on
the nation's money supply to a group small group of men.
And number three, after a century of avoiding Europe's quarrels,
we found ourselves sending our boys to die in European fields,

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and whose names they couldn't even pronounce the draft. In
four years, America went from a self reliant republic to
a managed democracy by your betters, and our foreign policies
started to look suspiciously like Britain's. Our economy shifted from

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saving to spending, and the age of credit and consumption
was born. The nineteen twenties roared not because we were
richer in wisdom, No, No, it roared because the working
class discovered installment credit. You no longer needed to save

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for what you wanted. You just needed a pen in
a signature. Advertising exploded. Newspapers that once exposed corruption now
filled their front page is with ads for automobiles and appliances,
And for a while this all worked. Americans were convinced
to buy these things with borrowed money, the birth of

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the leisure class. Oh there were men and women, but
basically there were men that threw up the warning flares.
One of my favorite Americans, Henry Ford, said it stock
sword confidence boom. Factory workers were buying shares of publicly
traded companies on margin, borrowing the money. And what happens

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when that bubble burst. The dignity of millions who had
mortgaged their land, their property, their name, their entire life
was collateralized, and it all burst, and FDR had to
come up with a new deal. And that new deal

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included Americans willingly trading independence for stability. Now, there were
plenty of Americans that made a lot of money on
the Great Depression, right, general.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Very true, and there were a lot of people who
thought that FDR brought us out of the Great Depression.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
Ten years later, government grew because it had to, or
so it seemed. Greed broke the system. And when the
crisis passed, the structure remained, federal programs, entitlements, permanent bureaucracy
was now managing risk on behalf of the American people

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who were famous for shouldering it ourselves. The lesson is
not that compassion is wrong, not at all. The lesson
is that when a government becomes the main guaranteur of
dignity and charity and morality, citizens forget how to do
it themselves. Well, history's pendulum is swinging back. Times are

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hard and they're going to get harder, and we are
going to rediscover thrift and courage and faith. We are,
we are. There is a revivalism happening. We have been
coasting on easy street and we've drifted into the comfort
credit trap. And now you mom and dad, grandparents, young adults,

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each of you must now decide are you going to
live as an owner or a renter? How are you
going to do this? How are you going to do this?
The business owner who doesn't outsource their calls anymore to
a call center in India to save some money. The
small business owner who's going to stand by their product
or service. The nurse who's going to finish a shift

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or stay over without complaint, letting the other person go
first on the streets, opening the door for somebody else.
These little acts of dignity, these little acts of morality,
these are just small but very important examples of Christian values.

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And they're contagious. Now does Christianity have a monopoly on this,
Of course not Christianity just say, look, we want you
to make your own decisions, but we really kind of
hope you hear what we're saying. Communities that are built
on worth tend to police themselves, educate their children, and
mind their own finances.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Because everyone's got a stake in that.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Yeah, when you know no one is coming to bail
you out, you find ways to help yourself out and
your neighbor out. We got a little taste of that
at COVID. That's the social glue that our founders assumed
would hold the republic together. The problem is the freer
you become, the more discipline you need. To stay free.

(34:58):
You need to have restraint. Just because you can apply
for a credit card and get a ten thousand or
five thousand or twelve thousand dollars credit extension doesn't mean
you do it. Just because the banker says you can
afford that seven hundred and fifty thousand or three hundred

(35:20):
and fifty thousand or three point five million dollar home.
Just because the banker says you qualified doesn't mean you
do it. Freedom includes duty, and it's duty to yourself
first and your family and your community. Of course, embedded

(35:41):
in that is the Christian values that we're talking about.
And to petition your government for redress when things are wrong.
That's a duty. But it's not the same thing as
hey open the federal government. Because we've got forty two
million people need an EBT card. If America loses anything

(36:03):
worth mourning, it will not be our wealth, it will
not be our weaponry, it will not be our military.
It'll be our dignity. The quiet confidence that ordinary people,
acting with restraint and rationality can govern themselves. That's where
we are, that's what we need to do. That's what

(36:23):
Charlie Kirk was talking about. And no, it's not a
sin to get married and have kids. Where did this
come from? Of course, you know, when you have a family,
you have a stake. You can't just take your freedom
and go do whatever you want to do. He understood that.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
And the leftist understood that that was a threat to them,
that was a competing loyalty.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
Yeah. Character is what makes a life feel worthwhile, not consumption.
And the ultimate form of government is self government. And
that's us, that's America, that's you listening, right, now you
can implement this immediately right now. Get yourself out of debt.

(37:06):
Have one credit card, if you can pay off your
credit card every month, If you can.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Your credit card, if you're in work towards.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
That, downsize your cars, downsize, save money. Think about that
early homesteader at dusk. He's tired, he's hungry, maybe he's discouraged,
but he looks over those few acres he's just cleared.
He feels something priceless, a sense of possession, not just

(37:39):
of land, but of life. That feeling, that feeling multiplied
across millions of Americans built this great nation. And we
will only keep our nation if we can keep that feeling.
But you'll never get that feeling if you're always looking

(38:02):
for a handout, and if that's given the Republican Party
or the Conservative movement or Christianity and bad name. I
couldn't disagree with you more and we're not gonna apologize.
I have a great rush of the weekend. Everybody. We'll
talk to you next show.
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