June 19, 2025 • 38 mins
The guys discuss America's recent checkered foreign policy blunders, intel failures,and military mis-adventures.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
In general.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Last weekend, good day to you.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Good day to you as well.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
There last weekend, you had your choice parades.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
You could do the.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
No King's parades all across America, or you could celebrate
in the military parade slash birthday prayed for Donald Trump.
There are other parades going on, the pride parade, parades
all over and then out of nowhere, the country is
divided yet again over Israel strikes on Iran. Right, it
(00:38):
does seem like the country continues to get lacerated, and
it almost feels like in seven day news cycles, whether
it's the No King's protests, it was Trump's birthday party,
military parade, the ice raids and the ice ride before that.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
By the way, did you know that they had a
No King's protest in London?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Why not?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
It's all, it's all, it's all the it's all part
of the manipulative behavior of the left, well, the left,
the right, everyone. Everyone. It's you're all trying to convince
somebody of something. And my point now is, well, I
guess we're about to become experts on.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Iran.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
We're going to learn all about their nuclear facilities, We're
going to learn all about the only way to get
one is through a bunker buster, and only the Americans
have the bunker buster.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Well, there's only one that's under underground that we know of.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
My question is.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
This is this the news we want fed to us?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Is this?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Is this what is most important right now? Is or
does the selective media hit drive the culture and the
cultural narrative, which then winds up driving the political decision
making process. See, if we know the culture is upstream
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from politics, and if you concede, you can see cultural changes,
or you can see what you want somehow into culture,
which will downflow into political approval for things like going
to war or things like having conversations about whether or
(02:32):
not illegal folks should be able to have free healthcare.
I mean, these things are entering our political discourse to
the point where we're like, Okay, what side are you
on on ourant.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Israel?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Well, I think the question is is this a road
to war or is this the road to peace?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
It's more, for sure, but I think it's much bigger
than that.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Out of nowhere, we had to become experts in Ukraine,
and then if you are on the wrong side of
the Ukraine thing, there's this Not only is there an
introduction of a novel, historical fact, a novel news issue,
a novel something we've never grappled with before, like Ukraine,
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so that that gets brought into the American news cycle. Why,
I don't know. I don't know why we really care
how far the Russian speaking people want to push their
jurisdiction into Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I don't fear there are some really hot chicks in Ukraine, for.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Sure, Eastern Europeans Ukraine does not have a lock on that.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Close.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
They're kind of the duke you and see, and then
they're Brazil of.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Hot chicks, ok, and so is Brazil, by the way.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
It's like, that's a wrong analogy. My point is this.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
With Ukraine, why were we even really why did that
get special spot in our news and news cycles? You
have the introduction of ideas and then you have a
prepackaged group of people that can get out there and
talk about it, and if you have some moral high
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ground you can take as a result of it, then
you get that. We became experts on Palestine, Gaza, Israel,
we became experts on spike proteins in COVID. I know
now we're being asked to be for a minute. I
thought we were going to have to be experts on
India and Pakistan Pakistan. It seemed like those guys were
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throwing down. But now out of nowhere, Israel does this
never seen before mission. It sounds like it's highly successful
last week and is now unable to finish the job
and needs the unit it states, And as of this recording,
we're all still waiting to see what President Trump decides
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to do.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Well, there's two ways to finish it.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
But go ahead, which, by the way, really ought to
be run through Congress.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I mean, when we's.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
We don't run this stuff through Congress anymore.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Go ahead, General, Well, there's two ways to finish this.
I mean, there's this last facility for producing nuclear stuff
that's underground and someplace named Frodo or something like that.
I thought that was the Lord of the Rings guy. Yeah, yes,
but well that was the Frodo was also the Younger.
But they need a bunker busting bomb of the types
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that the US has to penetrate down in there to
get it. Or what you can do is you can
use your air superiority and then you can drop a
bunch of Israeli commandos on the site and then they
can just go in there with low torches and cut
through things.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
My point is, why is this our problem? I'm just
playing devil's advocate. Why is this our problem? By virtue
of the fact that it's in the six o'clock news
doesn't make it our problem. By virtue of the fact
that it is a top story front page of New
York Times in WAPO doesn't make it our problem.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Well, do you want a suicide cult with a nuclear weapon? Now?
Speaker 3 (06:21):
The suicide cult let's go back here. When did these
people become suicide cultish people? When did the Iranian people
become suicide cultish people?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Or are you.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Talking about the mullas well?
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Both.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
I don't think that the majority of the Iranian people
want war with the West anymore of the West wants
war with Iran and all their procuticies.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
What do they have to do with it? It's what
their leaders want.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Think exactly.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
I don't think the Iranian people want war with the
West any more than the people of the West want
war with the Iranian people.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I don't think that's it debate.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Okay, So then we're talking about the molas and.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
We're talking about nuclear weapons.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
In the hands of the Molas.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yes, And if this is for peaceful nuclear purposes, why
are they building an underground?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
If the Molas have nukes, They're not going to be
the only country in the world with nukes. We've had
nukes in the hands of Russia for all of our lives.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
We're still here. Are they that irrational?
Speaker 1 (07:32):
You have to listen to what they say.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
I understand that.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
But if I trust them, I know.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
But there's a there's a there's a there's a circular
argument that's about to pick up here if you push this,
if you push the inquiry far enough on why are
why did all of a sudden we need why all
of a sudden has become America's problem to drop a
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bunker buster in Iran to knock out their nuke facilities.
I'm not saying we don't need to. I'm not saying
that we can trust them, not at all. I'm just saying,
how did we get here so fast?
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Oh? Mushroom clouds are circular too. One of the things
that you have to think of how much times left
before you Oh, we were about forty seconds or so. Right.
You have to think about the fact that you know
Iran has been at war with US since nineteen seventy nine.
They took over our embassy. They blew up the Marine barracks,
killing two hundred and forty one American servicemen. They've blew
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up the Kobar Towers in nineteen ninety six. They've given
support for the Huthis. They in the Carbala raid. When
we were in Iraq, the Iranians were killing US citizens
or killing US soldiers and rating against US soldiers in
the southern part of Iraq.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Why were we there to begin with?
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Right, what does Iran have to do with that?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Why were we there to begin with?
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Who gears? They understand that they weren't there to protect you?
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Ron glad, I'm glad you're coming down on the on
the side you are, so we can.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Have the spirit of debate.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
After the break, the General and Brad Koffle in a
rare conflict of opinion.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
We're going to see where this one goes.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Hi, welcome back for the defense of the American people.
On Attorney Brad Coffle, that is the General. We are
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Speaker 2 (10:06):
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Speaker 3 (10:06):
YEAH i continue to get pictures of people getting cars
up a chess round in the dealership being sent to
me And i'm Just i'm.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
THRILLED i think that's. Awesome so.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
The general on our first, segment we're setting up THIS
us Israel Orian Middle east.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Quagmire we're setting it.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Up this is a. Quagmar after seven days.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
In trump, time it's.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Quagmar so my, position this is a fundamental belief THAT i.
HAVE i don't have an opinion right now on what
we should.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
DO i don't have an opinion right.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
NOW i have a fundamental, belief and my fundamental belief
is that if there's a popular opinion about going to.
War THEN i have a lot of questions for the
people that are promoting.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
It question the, NARRATIVE i, Agree but then.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
When we get to the people behind, it we get
to cross examine the authority behind.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
IT i want to.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
KNOW i want to know from the people from who
have their hands on the lever who have the data,
points the people who are receiving The intel. Reports i'm
very interested in who gets how many hands are on
The intel reports before they get to the. President you
also hear about curating the intel narrative to feed and
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lead the executive to a particular decision as commander in.
Chief that is the problem THAT i. HAVE i don't
Distrust Donald. TRUMP i every single issue That Donald trump
has made THAT i consider to be important for, me
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Fundamentally i'm in agreement.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
With at this, point it.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Feels Like Donald trump was headed towards the situation room
to get birds in the air and start doing, things
and it does feel like that's. Happening BUT i, also
as of there's, Recording i'm feeling like there may be
some give me more before we go do, this tell
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me more about the. DOWNSIDES i do feel like there's
some there's some pushback IN. Maga you've got YOUR maga
figures From Steve, Bannon Tucker, CARLSON mtg that are encouraging
the president to pump the. Brakes this appears to be SPLITTING.
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Maga And i'm seeing a lot of the neo cons
THAT i outed in my mind in two thousand and
six re. EMERGING i see that The Ted cruz is
kind of the next Neel O, khan, Right Lindsey graham
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is The he's the cover boy of This Neo kan endless.
WARS i want to know what are we getting, into
because if we haven't learned From, vietnam and we haven't
learned From iraq And, afghanistan.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
We're not going to get regime.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Change you might get regime change In iran for a,
minute but then we look at regime change what it gives.
You it gives you people Like Jang Kai shek In.
Vietnam it gives you people Like Osama bin Laden k Was.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
China he went To, china but he went To taiwan
and did regime change.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Regime but before that it was In Vietnam Ho Chi.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Minh, right.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
They were practicing regime change for The south and it
worked for.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Them they were practicing regime change for their. People, OH i,
see they were practicing regime change for their.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
People if it's on the, left it's successful regime change
and it. Works but if it's on the, right it's.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Not they were were. Regimed they didn't like the pushback
was In vietnam was against The french colonialist and then
against The american, colonialists.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
DIDN'T I TOLA Colmeni when they deposed The, shaw wasn't
that regime?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Change when we deposed The?
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Shaw, no when they deposed the way.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
When what we what we do In iran in the late,
Fifties i'm talking about we installed a we installed The
americans installed a.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Puppet, yeah they threw Out. Mussadache, yes, Right but and
then when we do, it it's regime. Change but when
they get rid of The, shaw then it's back to normal. Again.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Now, no it's if it's from the, people if it's ground,
up that self. Determination if it's ground up self determination
and it's being influenced by other foreign, powers that's what we. Have,
Right we're supposed to be ground up from the ground,
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up not top. Down these are what we've been doing
is top down regime changes since The Cold, war since
the end Of World War, two and presidents who get
in the way don't have their job very. Long presidents
who want to see self, determination Like Jack, kennedy how
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big of a factor was his desire to break up THE,
cia to endorse self, determination to reject, colonialism.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
To keep missiles out Of?
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Cuba how much of that cost him his?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Job where his?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Life who got TO lbj to tell him he wasn't
running a second term when he was in the PRIMARIES lbj,
candidate very popular sixty four, victor but is running for
reelection and then inexplicably decides not to in the middle
of the primary. Season Bobby kennedy next up for The
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Democrats boom.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Gone Dick. Nixon Dick nixon.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Lost he was an very unpopular vice president under Eight
he was so. Unpopular, guys when he went back To
california in nineteen sixty two to run for, governor he'd.
Lost he got. Pummeled it would be Like Kamala harris
going back To california to run for governor Of california
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in getting destroyed by like eight points nine. Points where
Did Dick nixon come? From Jack kennedy goes. DOWN lbj
is stepped he is asked to step. Aside Bobby kennedy goes.
Down Dick nixon gets brought up from the bench In
california WHEN i wasn't In, california after he got his
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pants handed to him after they beat the breaks off of.
Him in sixty two In, california he decides to move
To New York city go practice law and winds up
getting in bed with the military industrial con that's that.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
The law firms.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Do those are their. Clients he's a former vice. President
who do you think he's opening doors? With he becomes
their candidate in sixty eight and seventy seventy.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Two and runs on getting us out of the, war runs.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
On getting us out of. War, well his vice PRESIDENT Spiau.
Agnew all of a, sudden The Vice PRESIDENT Spiau agnew
comes under an federal investigation for taking some kickbacks in
nineteen sixty seven when he was somewhere in state, Government maryland,
somewhere and he gets. Prosecuted but you know, What agnew's
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punishment was, nothing no, jail no, prison nothing long as
he had contest he had he pled no step, down step,
down you stepped down a vice presidential, Couple so who
becomes vice? President Dick nixon gets to, pick and It's Gerald.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Ford where Was Gerald? Ford Where's Gerald?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Fordman he's on The Warrant.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Commission they get their own guy.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
In there was also the, time, Too Gerald ford Became
president of The United, states never having run for vice
president or. President at Least Kamala harris had prior federal
electoral on a.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Ballot ford also played For michigan for.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Football that, so somewhere somewhere along in this sixty three
to seventy four is a coup and a military.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Juta all, right if you're still with, us still hanging,
On thanks The general AND i are about to re
engage in a spiriting debate on the role of the
role Of american, might the role Of american treasury to
be used in furtherance of violence and, war and the
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consensual spilling Of american blood and foreign.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Lands we only know what we're.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
TOLD i have a fundamental belief that you must question
popular opinion even if you're in agreement with. It and
then whoever is promoting the, narratives whoever the authorities, are
you must cross examine. Them give them hard. Questions, well
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you can't get straight answers to these hard questions. Anyway
you just. Can't here In, america we just. Can't we're just,
then even if you are getting the, truth it's no
longer reliable enough to classify it as the.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Truth we, know let me give you the. Fault just
think about this right.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Before you form your own personal opinion on what we
ought to be doing With, israel IArray in The Middle,
east and literally our entire foreign policy for that, matter
did it take into Consideration After World War, two the
world's people were.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Exhausted who was remaining.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
The?
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Survivors no way in the world they would go out
of their way to not have. Peace now they would
go out of their way to not have. War their
children would go out of their way to avoid, war
and most likely their.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Grandchildren sounds like the people right After World War one as.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Well the world's people did not want any more war
After World war two or After World War, one, right
well for, sure but they didn't know AFTER i Mean
World war, one you have sixteen to twenty million total, deaths,
yes sixteen two Peace, hitler sixteen to twenty million total
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deaths in between the. Wars you had that little thing
called the, depression and that took out probably as many deaths.
Worldwide i've seen statistics of seventeen twenty twenty five thirty
million total deaths during the depression of interwar.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Period World WAR ii.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Estimates sixty five to seventy five million total, deaths a
third military majority. Civilian the people don't want. War military
statists want. War the people don't unless foreign boots step
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on domestic. Soil what have we been doing but putting
our foreign boots on their domestic. Soil who's putting our
boots on other people's? Soil the military status Post Cold
War war. Two the same people WHO i, think my,
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opinion had a problem With Jack kennedy had a problem
With Bobby. Kennedy there was a, big huge debate on
what do we do with The Soviet, union just like
we're dealing with now With.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Iran we should be calling for the.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Rejection of endless, wars the neo conservative neoliberal adventures in
the past two. Decades we've forgotten how bad it was
In World War one because we weren't around to experience.
It we've Forgotten World War two because we're just now
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we're now losing the final. GIS i look at the
Oh bits almost every, day AND i look for The
american flag AND i always read an o bit of
A World war two vet fight them. Anymore that institutional
memory is, gone that wisdom is no longer. There and
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as a, result the fat and Happy american, people.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
As long as Our.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
God, forbid we lose our electrical, grid are cell towers
and we're talking about nuking parts of their. Country these
These New World order adventures in the past two, decades
marked by trillions of dollars thousands Of american lives. Lost
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we've destabilized parts of the world that were never stable
to begin. WITH i, mean what do you mean we've de.
Stable it's never been. Stable we've been told The europeans
who never really did much fighting in The. East but
The europeans who did do fighting in The east came
back and, said you don't go. THERE i, mean those
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people with these giant long swords that have like what
do they call that flare out like, that something like.
That they're, crazy they're on, horses they're, violent they eat.
You so The, europeans like The, europeans they, knew keep
your cannons. Here don't be dragging that stuff over. There
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let them eat each. Other so our founders only knew
The european, wisdom and they, said stay out Of european. Wars, why,
well you, know you're just fighting for, royalty you're fighting
for the kings and.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Queen we don't need.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
That they're.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Endless they're.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Endless so we were told stay out of the endless
words Of. Europe we would have been told stay out
of the the crazy, world the dust world over. There
don't start looking under. Rocks, literally.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Who knows what you're gonna.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Find, well coming out Of World War two Was Operation.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Mockingbird, General yes you Like operation Mocking.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Bird heard all about?
Speaker 2 (25:09):
It tell our.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Listeners, well it was A cia operation to get in
bed with the journalists and grant them certain favors for
return of certain, Favors and so whenever there was a
big story that was about to come out that would
hurt The Central Intelligence agency or the, government then they
would be, told, okay you have to back off of,
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that and they would dutifully back, off and in exchange
they would be given some, crumble some, crumbs and some
little tiny pieces of bread and crewe toms here and
there about this story or that story which might hurt an.
Opponent it was the.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Censoring it was no different than the censoring OF covid.
Vaccines it was the government backdoor influence on the. Media
it's the cover. Ups it's The Warrant commission cover. Up
it's the it's The Operation. Mockingbird it's all these things
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that add up to us questioning.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Why Were rixon running sixty?
Speaker 3 (26:14):
EIGHT i, mean like this, guy why am we already
talked in the last? Segment he got. It they beat
the brakes off of. Him in sixty two he couldn't.
Run he lost running for governor after Being ike's vice.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
PRESIDENT i.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Many times the most revered man In. America of, course
who Was nixon running?
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Against you, know would Have nixon been running, against he
would have been running against somebody Like Ronald. Reagan who Was.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Nixon nixon Was. Dick nixon was a seasoned politician who'd
shown that he'll play. Dirty don't forget what he started
and forty you, know he went To congress and forty
SIX i just finished one of his. Biographies went To
congress in forty, six and by forty eight and fifty
he And. MacArthur they're doing The Red scare. Hearings seasoned, politician, pliable,
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ambitious and he carries their bag until he. Stops and
next thing you, know his vice president gets taken out
on a single charge of tax, evasion and as vice
president is told that he has to resign as vice.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
President and then.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
The watergate scandal.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Makes no.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Sense it was so, bumbling it was so. Bad it's
almost like it was set up to Get Dick.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
NIXON a lot of people think that that's what happened.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Once nixon Got once he became president in seventy, two
he was surrounded by advisors that were all ultary industrial.
Complex some of them had ties to THE.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
CIA fbi. Hunt Giddy Lyddy glydy.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Was AN fbi hunt WAS.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Cia so When ford becomes president through not a single,
Vote ford becomes, president.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
He has to.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Run he's going to run for reelection seventy. Six and
don't Forget ford's On Warrant. Commission it coincided With america's vice.
Centennial there was a populos surge and the people didn't
no longer trusted your, statists of Which Gerald ford.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Was Jimmy carter was no. Statist he was an.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Outsider And jimmy capitalized on that public discontent with the.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Establishment he quickly became a statist the.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Right he focused on the wrong things human rights and, diplomacy.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Uh and big government and big. Government you, know but
the economy was. Terrible we don't care about human rights right.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Now we care about interest rates and, inflation jobs and.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Inflation but this whole new world order that promised?
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Peace how was? This our last segment one more sticklers all?
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Right segment, four final segment for the defense of The american.
People this show is again questioning popular, opinion even if
you may agree with. It question popular opinion even if
you don't have an opinion on.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
It, yet what is?
Speaker 3 (29:48):
It it Is, Iran, israel The United.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
States if you choose not to, decide you still have
made a.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Choice as of this, recording The United states is not
taken any direct offensive kinetic. ACTION i just DON'T i
don't have an opinion on this right, now SO i
have to drop down to my fundamental beliefs in order
to get to my. Opinion my fundamental beliefs are that
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people don't want, war especially people that served in, war
lost kids to, war have seen. More they don't want.
War coming out Of World War, two the millions and
millions and millions and millions and millions of.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Lives, lost.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Witnessed by, survivors children and, grandchildren only to have some
peace presidents come up in late. Fifties ike very much
warned us on the way, out there's a there's a beast,
growing there's a beast likes to, it needs to. HUNT
(31:02):
jfk saw. That he started to comment on. THAT i,
think my, opinion the one speech that sealed his fate
was a speech he gave at commencement in ninth summer
sixty three At American university IN. Dc he basically laid
out As kennedy foreign, policy and By november he's getting.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Assassinated and, then if you follow my theory that.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Part of the warrant commission was part of the cover,
up was part of the actual. Plot lbjay's excuse from
running a second. Term don't know why Defeated Dick nixon
couldn't win his own governorship in sixty, two gets pulled
up to the varsity in sixty, Eight Bobby kennedy gets.
(32:00):
Killed nixon gets in there and takes, us ramps up
the bombings In cambodia And, llaos telling The american people
the exact, opposite.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
And then.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Takes us off the gold standard that allows us to
spend money, wildly and that money goes right into the
growing domestic entitlement programs and the infinite military industrial. Complex
you don't have to raise taxes all the time if
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you can just print more, money.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Which is a form of taxation which people don't.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Realize so we come out of The Cold, war we're
on top where the.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Hegamah life's.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Great, REALLY i, mean what we do with our peace
dividend coming out Of World war? Two what do we
do with our peace dividend coming out of The Cold.
War we couldn't keep our fingers off the. Triggers we
couldn't keep our money out of Developing third world. Countries
(33:16):
we needed some muscle to come in and protect our
corner of the. Neighborhood and that muscles your boys and.
Girls they're bullets and guns paid for by your. Wages
let's call it what it. Is we were lied to
About iraq and weapons of mass. DESTRUCTION i reck had
(33:37):
nothing to do with Nine as far as we, know
nothing to do with nine to eleven estimated seven to
nine seven to nine trillion dollars spent on those two.
Countries Wars Great Financial crisis exposed how much we've been getting.
Fleeced and once the, banks the, speculators the, gamblers, banksters
(34:00):
once the banksters lost their, pants who bailed them?
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Out you?
Speaker 3 (34:05):
DID i, Did our kids will continue.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
To we're still paying that.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Bill and don't tell me THAT covid just coincidentally emerged
in election season of twenty.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
TWENTY i think my kids had something to do with
it because they wanted to get out of.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
School don't tell me THAT, covid which caused mail in,
ballots wasn't thought. Through DONALD. J trump has been a
magnet for deep state. Activity and for me right, now
it's two thousand and six all over. Again WHEN i
left THE gop because when the media foot soldiers representing
(34:47):
the tyranny of being ruled By Cold war, politicians THEN
i called that.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
OUT i.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Got to call that.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
OUT i remember nine to. Eleven also know why they did.
IT i Remember beirut in eighty, three two hundred and
forty One americans. Slaughtered, yeah why were those two hundred
and forty one boys? There how about the deaths In,
Iraq american boys and girls. There why When iran's promising
(35:19):
death To, america it's not. Bluffing hell, YEAH i believe.
It they take jihad. Seriously americans. Don't and the real
divide isn't between the people who Support israel or the
people who Support.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Iran or The.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Palestinians the real divide is between their people and their.
Leadership trump is no, warmonger BUT i have major. Concerns
his head is getting filled with aggressive thoughts from. Others
look at what's happened, lately regime change In. Syria gaza's leadership,
gone did a for hesbalah Rosy O'Donnell's self.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
DEPORTED i mean it's.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Destabilizing those leadership vacuums will get, filled the day's problems
become our children's.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
NIGHTMARES i might end with. That that one actually goes pretty.
Good are we out of?
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Time? You?
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Huh three? Minutes go, Ahead, General i'm, Monopolized i'm. Monologued,
no that's fine.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
THOUGHT i would just say, that you, know we went
through the litany of all of The iranian attacks UPON us,
military and to Paraphrase Captain, barbosa you better start believing in, war,
missy because you're in. One so the idea that you,
know these people In iran are building a peaceful nuclear
(36:36):
doing peaceful nuclear research deep. Underground you, know when we
did nuclear research in the, fifties we did it At Los.
Alamos it was all on top of the.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
GROUND i don't think we knew how to do it underground.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Yet, well we knew how to dig mines and all
that sort of. Stuff it would have been very. Easy
and then there's also the issue that they won't let
THE iaea in there to. Inspect when THE iaea, comes they, say,
sorry you can't see this place, today but you can
come back next week after we moved everything out of.
There if you're looking for peaceful nuclear, uses why do
(37:12):
you need ballistic? Missiles and they've got a lot of.
Them and those ballistic, missiles all you have to do
is sook two or three of them together and you've
got something that can reach The eastern.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Seaboard, right we all have mutual assured. Destructions it's, worked
And i'm NOT i. Don't it's a problem with no easy.
Answer All i'm encouraging our listeners and anyone else just
when it comes to war, pump The, brakes question the,
(37:43):
Narrative cross examine those who are behind, it and find
out are there any other ways Besides american pinetic war
against the ancient dynasty incurgent ancient dynasties Of.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Persia far more important than, that though we get to
listen to this show.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Regularly thanks have a great, week. Guys peace To, America
peace to the.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
World
In general.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Last weekend, good day to you.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Good day to you as well.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
There last weekend, you had your choice parades.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
You could do the.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
No King's parades all across America, or you could celebrate
in the military parade slash birthday prayed for Donald Trump.
There are other parades going on, the pride parade, parades
all over and then out of nowhere, the country is
divided yet again over Israel strikes on Iran. Right, it
(00:38):
does seem like the country continues to get lacerated, and
it almost feels like in seven day news cycles, whether
it's the No King's protests, it was Trump's birthday party,
military parade, the ice raids and the ice ride before that.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
By the way, did you know that they had a
No King's protest in London?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Why not?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
It's all, it's all, it's all the it's all part
of the manipulative behavior of the left, well, the left,
the right, everyone. Everyone. It's you're all trying to convince
somebody of something. And my point now is, well, I
guess we're about to become experts on.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Iran.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
We're going to learn all about their nuclear facilities, We're
going to learn all about the only way to get
one is through a bunker buster, and only the Americans
have the bunker buster.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Well, there's only one that's under underground that we know of.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
My question is.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
This is this the news we want fed to us?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Is this?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Is this what is most important right now? Is or
does the selective media hit drive the culture and the
cultural narrative, which then winds up driving the political decision
making process. See, if we know the culture is upstream
(02:11):
from politics, and if you concede, you can see cultural changes,
or you can see what you want somehow into culture,
which will downflow into political approval for things like going
to war or things like having conversations about whether or
(02:32):
not illegal folks should be able to have free healthcare.
I mean, these things are entering our political discourse to
the point where we're like, Okay, what side are you
on on ourant.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Israel?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Well, I think the question is is this a road
to war or is this the road to peace?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
It's more, for sure, but I think it's much bigger
than that.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Out of nowhere, we had to become experts in Ukraine,
and then if you are on the wrong side of
the Ukraine thing, there's this Not only is there an
introduction of a novel, historical fact, a novel news issue,
a novel something we've never grappled with before, like Ukraine,
(03:19):
so that that gets brought into the American news cycle. Why,
I don't know. I don't know why we really care
how far the Russian speaking people want to push their
jurisdiction into Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I don't fear there are some really hot chicks in Ukraine, for.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Sure, Eastern Europeans Ukraine does not have a lock on that.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Close.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
They're kind of the duke you and see, and then
they're Brazil of.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Hot chicks, ok, and so is Brazil, by the way.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
It's like, that's a wrong analogy. My point is this.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
With Ukraine, why were we even really why did that
get special spot in our news and news cycles? You
have the introduction of ideas and then you have a
prepackaged group of people that can get out there and
talk about it, and if you have some moral high
(04:20):
ground you can take as a result of it, then
you get that. We became experts on Palestine, Gaza, Israel,
we became experts on spike proteins in COVID. I know
now we're being asked to be for a minute. I
thought we were going to have to be experts on
India and Pakistan Pakistan. It seemed like those guys were
(04:42):
throwing down. But now out of nowhere, Israel does this
never seen before mission. It sounds like it's highly successful
last week and is now unable to finish the job
and needs the unit it states, And as of this recording,
we're all still waiting to see what President Trump decides
(05:05):
to do.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Well, there's two ways to finish it.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
But go ahead, which, by the way, really ought to
be run through Congress.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I mean, when we's.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
We don't run this stuff through Congress anymore.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Go ahead, General, Well, there's two ways to finish this.
I mean, there's this last facility for producing nuclear stuff
that's underground and someplace named Frodo or something like that.
I thought that was the Lord of the Rings guy. Yeah, yes,
but well that was the Frodo was also the Younger.
But they need a bunker busting bomb of the types
(05:41):
that the US has to penetrate down in there to
get it. Or what you can do is you can
use your air superiority and then you can drop a
bunch of Israeli commandos on the site and then they
can just go in there with low torches and cut
through things.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
My point is, why is this our problem? I'm just
playing devil's advocate. Why is this our problem? By virtue
of the fact that it's in the six o'clock news
doesn't make it our problem. By virtue of the fact
that it is a top story front page of New
York Times in WAPO doesn't make it our problem.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Well, do you want a suicide cult with a nuclear weapon? Now?
Speaker 3 (06:21):
The suicide cult let's go back here. When did these
people become suicide cultish people? When did the Iranian people
become suicide cultish people?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Or are you.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Talking about the mullas well?
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Both.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
I don't think that the majority of the Iranian people
want war with the West anymore of the West wants
war with Iran and all their procuticies.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
What do they have to do with it? It's what
their leaders want.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Think exactly.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
I don't think the Iranian people want war with the
West any more than the people of the West want
war with the Iranian people.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I don't think that's it debate.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Okay, So then we're talking about the molas and.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
We're talking about nuclear weapons.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
In the hands of the Molas.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yes, And if this is for peaceful nuclear purposes, why
are they building an underground?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
If the Molas have nukes, They're not going to be
the only country in the world with nukes. We've had
nukes in the hands of Russia for all of our lives.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
We're still here. Are they that irrational?
Speaker 1 (07:32):
You have to listen to what they say.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
I understand that.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
But if I trust them, I know.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
But there's a there's a there's a there's a circular
argument that's about to pick up here if you push this,
if you push the inquiry far enough on why are
why did all of a sudden we need why all
of a sudden has become America's problem to drop a
(08:00):
bunker buster in Iran to knock out their nuke facilities.
I'm not saying we don't need to. I'm not saying
that we can trust them, not at all. I'm just saying,
how did we get here so fast?
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Oh? Mushroom clouds are circular too. One of the things
that you have to think of how much times left
before you Oh, we were about forty seconds or so. Right.
You have to think about the fact that you know
Iran has been at war with US since nineteen seventy nine.
They took over our embassy. They blew up the Marine barracks,
killing two hundred and forty one American servicemen. They've blew
(08:38):
up the Kobar Towers in nineteen ninety six. They've given
support for the Huthis. They in the Carbala raid. When
we were in Iraq, the Iranians were killing US citizens
or killing US soldiers and rating against US soldiers in
the southern part of Iraq.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Why were we there to begin with?
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Right, what does Iran have to do with that?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Why were we there to begin with?
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Who gears? They understand that they weren't there to protect you?
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Ron glad, I'm glad you're coming down on the on
the side you are, so we can.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Have the spirit of debate.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
After the break, the General and Brad Koffle in a
rare conflict of opinion.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
We're going to see where this one goes.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Hi, welcome back for the defense of the American people.
On Attorney Brad Coffle, that is the General. We are
on six' TEN wtv in SIX Pms Friday eastern, Times
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(09:48):
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Speaker 2 (09:49):
Get any money from.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Them that's going to.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Change But i'm, sorry but they're in, there and that's
That's i'm pretty sure iHeartMedia puts those. In they pay the,
bills and who pays our? BILL a chess round, automotive.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yes and they want a place to go.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
First.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
YEAH i continue to get pictures of people getting cars
up a chess round in the dealership being sent to
me And i'm Just i'm.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
THRILLED i think that's. Awesome so.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
The general on our first, segment we're setting up THIS
us Israel Orian Middle east.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Quagmire we're setting it.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Up this is a. Quagmar after seven days.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
In trump, time it's.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Quagmar so my, position this is a fundamental belief THAT i.
HAVE i don't have an opinion right now on what
we should.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
DO i don't have an opinion right.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
NOW i have a fundamental, belief and my fundamental belief
is that if there's a popular opinion about going to.
War THEN i have a lot of questions for the
people that are promoting.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
It question the, NARRATIVE i, Agree but then.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
When we get to the people behind, it we get
to cross examine the authority behind.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
IT i want to.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
KNOW i want to know from the people from who
have their hands on the lever who have the data,
points the people who are receiving The intel. Reports i'm
very interested in who gets how many hands are on
The intel reports before they get to the. President you
also hear about curating the intel narrative to feed and
(11:29):
lead the executive to a particular decision as commander in.
Chief that is the problem THAT i. HAVE i don't
Distrust Donald. TRUMP i every single issue That Donald trump
has made THAT i consider to be important for, me
(11:51):
Fundamentally i'm in agreement.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
With at this, point it.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Feels Like Donald trump was headed towards the situation room
to get birds in the air and start doing, things
and it does feel like that's. Happening BUT i, also
as of there's, Recording i'm feeling like there may be
some give me more before we go do, this tell
(12:20):
me more about the. DOWNSIDES i do feel like there's
some there's some pushback IN. Maga you've got YOUR maga
figures From Steve, Bannon Tucker, CARLSON mtg that are encouraging
the president to pump the. Brakes this appears to be SPLITTING.
(12:43):
Maga And i'm seeing a lot of the neo cons
THAT i outed in my mind in two thousand and
six re. EMERGING i see that The Ted cruz is
kind of the next Neel O, khan, Right Lindsey graham
(13:04):
is The he's the cover boy of This Neo kan endless.
WARS i want to know what are we getting, into
because if we haven't learned From, vietnam and we haven't
learned From iraq And, afghanistan.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
We're not going to get regime.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Change you might get regime change In iran for a,
minute but then we look at regime change what it gives.
You it gives you people Like Jang Kai shek In.
Vietnam it gives you people Like Osama bin Laden k Was.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
China he went To, china but he went To taiwan
and did regime change.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Regime but before that it was In Vietnam Ho Chi.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Minh, right.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
They were practicing regime change for The south and it
worked for.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Them they were practicing regime change for their. People, OH i,
see they were practicing regime change for their.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
People if it's on the, left it's successful regime change
and it. Works but if it's on the, right it's.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Not they were were. Regimed they didn't like the pushback
was In vietnam was against The french colonialist and then
against The american, colonialists.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
DIDN'T I TOLA Colmeni when they deposed The, shaw wasn't
that regime?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Change when we deposed The?
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Shaw, no when they deposed the way.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
When what we what we do In iran in the late,
Fifties i'm talking about we installed a we installed The
americans installed a.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Puppet, yeah they threw Out. Mussadache, yes, Right but and
then when we do, it it's regime. Change but when
they get rid of The, shaw then it's back to normal. Again.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Now, no it's if it's from the, people if it's ground,
up that self. Determination if it's ground up self determination
and it's being influenced by other foreign, powers that's what we. Have,
Right we're supposed to be ground up from the ground,
(15:05):
up not top. Down these are what we've been doing
is top down regime changes since The Cold, war since
the end Of World War, two and presidents who get
in the way don't have their job very. Long presidents
who want to see self, determination Like Jack, kennedy how
(15:30):
big of a factor was his desire to break up THE,
cia to endorse self, determination to reject, colonialism.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
To keep missiles out Of?
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Cuba how much of that cost him his?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Job where his?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Life who got TO lbj to tell him he wasn't
running a second term when he was in the PRIMARIES lbj,
candidate very popular sixty four, victor but is running for
reelection and then inexplicably decides not to in the middle
of the primary. Season Bobby kennedy next up for The
(16:09):
Democrats boom.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Gone Dick. Nixon Dick nixon.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Lost he was an very unpopular vice president under Eight
he was so. Unpopular, guys when he went back To
california in nineteen sixty two to run for, governor he'd.
Lost he got. Pummeled it would be Like Kamala harris
going back To california to run for governor Of california
(16:35):
in getting destroyed by like eight points nine. Points where
Did Dick nixon come? From Jack kennedy goes. DOWN lbj
is stepped he is asked to step. Aside Bobby kennedy goes.
Down Dick nixon gets brought up from the bench In
california WHEN i wasn't In, california after he got his
(16:58):
pants handed to him after they beat the breaks off of.
Him in sixty two In, california he decides to move
To New York city go practice law and winds up
getting in bed with the military industrial con that's that.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
The law firms.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Do those are their. Clients he's a former vice. President
who do you think he's opening doors? With he becomes
their candidate in sixty eight and seventy seventy.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Two and runs on getting us out of the, war runs.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
On getting us out of. War, well his vice PRESIDENT Spiau.
Agnew all of a, sudden The Vice PRESIDENT Spiau agnew
comes under an federal investigation for taking some kickbacks in
nineteen sixty seven when he was somewhere in state, Government maryland,
somewhere and he gets. Prosecuted but you know, What agnew's
(17:53):
punishment was, nothing no, jail no, prison nothing long as
he had contest he had he pled no step, down step,
down you stepped down a vice presidential, Couple so who
becomes vice? President Dick nixon gets to, pick and It's Gerald.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Ford where Was Gerald? Ford Where's Gerald?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Fordman he's on The Warrant.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Commission they get their own guy.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
In there was also the, time, Too Gerald ford Became
president of The United, states never having run for vice
president or. President at Least Kamala harris had prior federal
electoral on a.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Ballot ford also played For michigan for.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Football that, so somewhere somewhere along in this sixty three
to seventy four is a coup and a military.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Juta all, right if you're still with, us still hanging,
On thanks The general AND i are about to re
engage in a spiriting debate on the role of the
role Of american, might the role Of american treasury to
be used in furtherance of violence and, war and the
(19:11):
consensual spilling Of american blood and foreign.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Lands we only know what we're.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
TOLD i have a fundamental belief that you must question
popular opinion even if you're in agreement with. It and
then whoever is promoting the, narratives whoever the authorities, are
you must cross examine. Them give them hard. Questions, well
(19:38):
you can't get straight answers to these hard questions. Anyway
you just. Can't here In, america we just. Can't we're just,
then even if you are getting the, truth it's no
longer reliable enough to classify it as the.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Truth we, know let me give you the. Fault just
think about this right.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Before you form your own personal opinion on what we
ought to be doing With, israel IArray in The Middle,
east and literally our entire foreign policy for that, matter
did it take into Consideration After World War, two the
world's people were.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Exhausted who was remaining.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
The?
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Survivors no way in the world they would go out
of their way to not have. Peace now they would
go out of their way to not have. War their
children would go out of their way to avoid, war
and most likely their.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Grandchildren sounds like the people right After World War one as.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Well the world's people did not want any more war
After World war two or After World War, one, right
well for, sure but they didn't know AFTER i Mean
World war, one you have sixteen to twenty million total, deaths,
yes sixteen two Peace, hitler sixteen to twenty million total
(21:00):
deaths in between the. Wars you had that little thing
called the, depression and that took out probably as many deaths.
Worldwide i've seen statistics of seventeen twenty twenty five thirty
million total deaths during the depression of interwar.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Period World WAR ii.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Estimates sixty five to seventy five million total, deaths a
third military majority. Civilian the people don't want. War military
statists want. War the people don't unless foreign boots step
(21:44):
on domestic. Soil what have we been doing but putting
our foreign boots on their domestic. Soil who's putting our
boots on other people's? Soil the military status Post Cold
War war. Two the same people WHO i, think my,
(22:04):
opinion had a problem With Jack kennedy had a problem
With Bobby. Kennedy there was a, big huge debate on
what do we do with The Soviet, union just like
we're dealing with now With.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Iran we should be calling for the.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Rejection of endless, wars the neo conservative neoliberal adventures in
the past two. Decades we've forgotten how bad it was
In World War one because we weren't around to experience.
It we've Forgotten World War two because we're just now
(22:46):
we're now losing the final. GIS i look at the
Oh bits almost every, day AND i look for The
american flag AND i always read an o bit of
A World war two vet fight them. Anymore that institutional
memory is, gone that wisdom is no longer. There and
(23:08):
as a, result the fat and Happy american, people.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
As long as Our.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
God, forbid we lose our electrical, grid are cell towers
and we're talking about nuking parts of their. Country these
These New World order adventures in the past two, decades
marked by trillions of dollars thousands Of american lives. Lost
(23:36):
we've destabilized parts of the world that were never stable
to begin. WITH i, mean what do you mean we've de.
Stable it's never been. Stable we've been told The europeans
who never really did much fighting in The. East but
The europeans who did do fighting in The east came
back and, said you don't go. THERE i, mean those
(23:59):
people with these giant long swords that have like what
do they call that flare out like, that something like.
That they're, crazy they're on, horses they're, violent they eat.
You so The, europeans like The, europeans they, knew keep
your cannons. Here don't be dragging that stuff over. There
(24:21):
let them eat each. Other so our founders only knew
The european, wisdom and they, said stay out Of european. Wars, why,
well you, know you're just fighting for, royalty you're fighting
for the kings and.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Queen we don't need.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
That they're.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Endless they're.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Endless so we were told stay out of the endless
words Of. Europe we would have been told stay out
of the the crazy, world the dust world over. There
don't start looking under. Rocks, literally.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Who knows what you're gonna.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Find, well coming out Of World War two Was Operation.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Mockingbird, General yes you Like operation Mocking.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Bird heard all about?
Speaker 2 (25:09):
It tell our.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Listeners, well it was A cia operation to get in
bed with the journalists and grant them certain favors for
return of certain, Favors and so whenever there was a
big story that was about to come out that would
hurt The Central Intelligence agency or the, government then they
would be, told, okay you have to back off of,
(25:32):
that and they would dutifully back, off and in exchange
they would be given some, crumble some, crumbs and some
little tiny pieces of bread and crewe toms here and
there about this story or that story which might hurt an.
Opponent it was the.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Censoring it was no different than the censoring OF covid.
Vaccines it was the government backdoor influence on the. Media
it's the cover. Ups it's The Warrant commission cover. Up
it's the it's The Operation. Mockingbird it's all these things
(26:08):
that add up to us questioning.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Why Were rixon running sixty?
Speaker 3 (26:14):
EIGHT i, mean like this, guy why am we already
talked in the last? Segment he got. It they beat
the brakes off of. Him in sixty two he couldn't.
Run he lost running for governor after Being ike's vice.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
PRESIDENT i.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Many times the most revered man In. America of, course
who Was nixon running?
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Against you, know would Have nixon been running, against he
would have been running against somebody Like Ronald. Reagan who Was.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Nixon nixon Was. Dick nixon was a seasoned politician who'd
shown that he'll play. Dirty don't forget what he started
and forty you, know he went To congress and forty
SIX i just finished one of his. Biographies went To
congress in forty, six and by forty eight and fifty
he And. MacArthur they're doing The Red scare. Hearings seasoned, politician, pliable,
(27:15):
ambitious and he carries their bag until he. Stops and
next thing you, know his vice president gets taken out
on a single charge of tax, evasion and as vice
president is told that he has to resign as vice.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
President and then.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
The watergate scandal.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Makes no.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Sense it was so, bumbling it was so. Bad it's
almost like it was set up to Get Dick.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
NIXON a lot of people think that that's what happened.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Once nixon Got once he became president in seventy, two
he was surrounded by advisors that were all ultary industrial.
Complex some of them had ties to THE.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
CIA fbi. Hunt Giddy Lyddy glydy.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Was AN fbi hunt WAS.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Cia so When ford becomes president through not a single,
Vote ford becomes, president.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
He has to.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Run he's going to run for reelection seventy. Six and
don't Forget ford's On Warrant. Commission it coincided With america's vice.
Centennial there was a populos surge and the people didn't
no longer trusted your, statists of Which Gerald ford.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Was Jimmy carter was no. Statist he was an.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Outsider And jimmy capitalized on that public discontent with the.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Establishment he quickly became a statist the.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Right he focused on the wrong things human rights and, diplomacy.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Uh and big government and big. Government you, know but
the economy was. Terrible we don't care about human rights right.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Now we care about interest rates and, inflation jobs and.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Inflation but this whole new world order that promised?
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Peace how was? This our last segment one more sticklers all?
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Right segment, four final segment for the defense of The american.
People this show is again questioning popular, opinion even if
you may agree with. It question popular opinion even if
you don't have an opinion on.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
It, yet what is?
Speaker 3 (29:48):
It it Is, Iran, israel The United.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
States if you choose not to, decide you still have
made a.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Choice as of this, recording The United states is not
taken any direct offensive kinetic. ACTION i just DON'T i
don't have an opinion on this right, now SO i
have to drop down to my fundamental beliefs in order
to get to my. Opinion my fundamental beliefs are that
(30:16):
people don't want, war especially people that served in, war
lost kids to, war have seen. More they don't want.
War coming out Of World War, two the millions and
millions and millions and millions and millions of.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Lives, lost.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Witnessed by, survivors children and, grandchildren only to have some
peace presidents come up in late. Fifties ike very much
warned us on the way, out there's a there's a beast,
growing there's a beast likes to, it needs to. HUNT
(31:02):
jfk saw. That he started to comment on. THAT i,
think my, opinion the one speech that sealed his fate
was a speech he gave at commencement in ninth summer
sixty three At American university IN. Dc he basically laid
out As kennedy foreign, policy and By november he's getting.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Assassinated and, then if you follow my theory that.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Part of the warrant commission was part of the cover,
up was part of the actual. Plot lbjay's excuse from
running a second. Term don't know why Defeated Dick nixon
couldn't win his own governorship in sixty, two gets pulled
up to the varsity in sixty, Eight Bobby kennedy gets.
(32:00):
Killed nixon gets in there and takes, us ramps up
the bombings In cambodia And, llaos telling The american people
the exact, opposite.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
And then.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Takes us off the gold standard that allows us to
spend money, wildly and that money goes right into the
growing domestic entitlement programs and the infinite military industrial. Complex
you don't have to raise taxes all the time if
(32:42):
you can just print more, money.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Which is a form of taxation which people don't.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Realize so we come out of The Cold, war we're
on top where the.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Hegamah life's.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Great, REALLY i, mean what we do with our peace
dividend coming out Of World war? Two what do we
do with our peace dividend coming out of The Cold.
War we couldn't keep our fingers off the. Triggers we
couldn't keep our money out of Developing third world. Countries
(33:16):
we needed some muscle to come in and protect our
corner of the. Neighborhood and that muscles your boys and.
Girls they're bullets and guns paid for by your. Wages
let's call it what it. Is we were lied to
About iraq and weapons of mass. DESTRUCTION i reck had
(33:37):
nothing to do with Nine as far as we, know
nothing to do with nine to eleven estimated seven to
nine seven to nine trillion dollars spent on those two.
Countries Wars Great Financial crisis exposed how much we've been getting.
Fleeced and once the, banks the, speculators the, gamblers, banksters
(34:00):
once the banksters lost their, pants who bailed them?
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Out you?
Speaker 3 (34:05):
DID i, Did our kids will continue.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
To we're still paying that.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Bill and don't tell me THAT covid just coincidentally emerged
in election season of twenty.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
TWENTY i think my kids had something to do with
it because they wanted to get out of.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
School don't tell me THAT, covid which caused mail in,
ballots wasn't thought. Through DONALD. J trump has been a
magnet for deep state. Activity and for me right, now
it's two thousand and six all over. Again WHEN i
left THE gop because when the media foot soldiers representing
(34:47):
the tyranny of being ruled By Cold war, politicians THEN
i called that.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
OUT i.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Got to call that.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
OUT i remember nine to. Eleven also know why they did.
IT i Remember beirut in eighty, three two hundred and
forty One americans. Slaughtered, yeah why were those two hundred
and forty one boys? There how about the deaths In,
Iraq american boys and girls. There why When iran's promising
(35:19):
death To, america it's not. Bluffing hell, YEAH i believe.
It they take jihad. Seriously americans. Don't and the real
divide isn't between the people who Support israel or the
people who Support.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Iran or The.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Palestinians the real divide is between their people and their.
Leadership trump is no, warmonger BUT i have major. Concerns
his head is getting filled with aggressive thoughts from. Others
look at what's happened, lately regime change In. Syria gaza's leadership,
gone did a for hesbalah Rosy O'Donnell's self.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
DEPORTED i mean it's.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Destabilizing those leadership vacuums will get, filled the day's problems
become our children's.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
NIGHTMARES i might end with. That that one actually goes pretty.
Good are we out of?
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Time? You?
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Huh three? Minutes go, Ahead, General i'm, Monopolized i'm. Monologued,
no that's fine.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
THOUGHT i would just say, that you, know we went
through the litany of all of The iranian attacks UPON us,
military and to Paraphrase Captain, barbosa you better start believing in, war,
missy because you're in. One so the idea that you,
know these people In iran are building a peaceful nuclear
(36:36):
doing peaceful nuclear research deep. Underground you, know when we
did nuclear research in the, fifties we did it At Los.
Alamos it was all on top of the.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
GROUND i don't think we knew how to do it underground.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Yet, well we knew how to dig mines and all
that sort of. Stuff it would have been very. Easy
and then there's also the issue that they won't let
THE iaea in there to. Inspect when THE iaea, comes they, say,
sorry you can't see this place, today but you can
come back next week after we moved everything out of.
There if you're looking for peaceful nuclear, uses why do
(37:12):
you need ballistic? Missiles and they've got a lot of.
Them and those ballistic, missiles all you have to do
is sook two or three of them together and you've
got something that can reach The eastern.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Seaboard, right we all have mutual assured. Destructions it's, worked
And i'm NOT i. Don't it's a problem with no easy.
Answer All i'm encouraging our listeners and anyone else just
when it comes to war, pump The, brakes question the,
(37:43):
Narrative cross examine those who are behind, it and find
out are there any other ways Besides american pinetic war
against the ancient dynasty incurgent ancient dynasties Of.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Persia far more important than, that though we get to
listen to this show.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Regularly thanks have a great, week. Guys peace To, America
peace to the.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
World
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