BB Gun Safety; Securing your Guns

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oftentimes on the show, we have guests like Hickhock forty five,
state political leaders, influential people. We've really been blessed have
a wide variety of guests over the years. Today on
the show. Today on the show, it's just Paul Paul,
and I can't say I didn't warn you on Target

(00:20):
is next.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Good afternoon, Welcome on to Target.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
We're broadcasting live from the studio's LPD Firearms Range and
Training facility. Look at it at nine ninet nine, Triple nine,
Bethel Road. I'm your host, Eric, along with my father Phil.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
I warned Ella that I was going to be on
the show. I said, get your mute button ready.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Oh geez, you have you've had all this pent up?

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Oh it's been pent up.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yes, you know there, I do have a gripe.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
I mean, while I appreciate you being on the show
and filling in since nobody else showed up today in
the bottom of the barrel, well, I'm just saying, there
is a cost to this, and so I guess today
you're out there and you're going to talk about listeners
wanting to donate a model ten to you or something. So,
I mean, you needed a platform to get this out.
So I'm glad we could provide that today.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Good.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yes, So does this mean you're out of retirement?

Speaker 3 (01:08):
No? No, okay, that means I've came. I've come out
of retirement just to help you out today.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Okay, all right, all right, as long as we know
the ground little Oh yeah, guys, we are the only
owners of LAPD Firearms Range and Training Facility and are
active in law enforcement. But for one hour on Saturdays,
we put together a group of firearms experts to discuss
new products in the market, training tips, and oftentimes political
topics surrounding the Second Amendment. Our commitment that has always
been to bring you the facts about our industry and

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help listeners and customers with safe, responsible ownership of firearms.
Today on the show. Today, on this show, you're going
to get a little bit of everything that we're just
kind of cleaning up some past topics we didn't spend
enough time on, have some new topics. We had just
a lot of little things going on. So we might
even open up the phone lines later. When was the
last time we did that. That's scary, yeah, I know,

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but we'll see, we'll see. We want to thank everyone,
first of all, though for contributing to our buddy Spencer,
the CPD officer to his raffle, it was a really
good success. We drew the name last week and he
was him and his family were so appreciative of it.
So thank you everyone for help donate that in helping
support the Spencer going forward.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Up shortly, we're going to talk to a.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Good friend and happens to be the chief of Franklin
County Sheriff's Chief. Gilbert's going to be calling talking about
Operation Unity that I got to be a part of
this week.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
We do it every year, really a.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Neat event, and I don't think he gets I mean
we talk about it and they do their press release,
but I don't think it gets enough press on how
impactful it is. So he's going to be calling in
shortly and talking about that and what else we have.
Pop Paul All, did you see do you see my
segment this week on Channel six?

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Yes? I did, Yeah, I mean it's scary what's out there,
And you know I was telling other people people, you know,
you got these kids, you know they walk around with
these guns that look real. I mean they absolutely look real,
and if they ever get in an encounter with law enforcement,
and god forbid, you know, the officer has to do

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what he has to do. I just know that the
local media or the media media, yeah, they'll say that
the kid was unarmed because it because it wasn't a real.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
And we're talking about a story we did this week
with our friends over at Channel six about guns or
baby guns. Actually that look real. So we'll get into
that a little bit later, but it's definitely worth a listen.
And if you have these in your house, if you
have kids that have them and stuff, you need to
pay attention to making sure those don't leave the property
and aren't used in a way that's gonna harm the

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kids and stuff.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
So we'll talk about that in a little bit.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
There is no JC here today, so we don't have
a long list of news. But we got some news, Papa,
We have.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
News, and there's no way that I can fill in
for all I know. Oh, you cannot feel his shoes.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Cannot cannot fill his shoes.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
We're gonna get to a couple of guns of the
week sponsored by a good friends over at US law Shield.
They were actually in today. Spoke to those guys, good
people over there. We might talk a little holsters for summertime.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Carrie.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
We got a little discussion on that later on Uh,
stolen guns. I you know what, Papaul, I am tired
of talking about stolen guns and locking the guns up
in your in your vehicle.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
It's just it makes me mad.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
So many good gun owners are getting their guns stolen
from their vehicle.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
I don't know what. I don't know what more we have.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
To do, uh, to get it across to people to
not leave guns unsecured in the cars. It's just it's
starting to infuriate me as much as we talk about
it and how much it happens. And I had a
friend this week who had one stolen out of his car,
And even after all the stuff we've talked about, it's just, uh,
it's it's frustrating, to say the least. So we'll talk
about that a little bit later. And uh what else.

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I think that's about it, Paul. Well, we got a
bunch of bunch of little stories and stuff to get to.
We'd like to thank our sponsors though, US Last Shield
a great company to partners with us. If you carry
a firearm for self defense, or even if you have
one at home, US law Shield is something you should
consider because they are there to protect you if you
have to use that fire them, not even just the firearm,

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but if you have to defend yourself they or there.
I have some friends who've actually used had to use them,
So that is that's a good a good thing to
have and it's inexpensive. Jackson nee Gress Windows. They've been
a sponsor of us since the beginning. If you ever
wanted to turn that basement into a living space, they
can actually make an egress and be able to go
in and out from the basement. Kind of a neat thing.

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Give those guys a call. Black Ring Shooting Center or
friends up North. Been doing a lot with them lately.
They've had a ton of events. They had that big
event this week. I think it was called the matt
Light Event if I remember correctly. So I definitely support
those guys, especially now that it's summertime, getting outside and
doing sports clay pigeons and sporting clays.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
And all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
I can be between the rain.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Well that yeah, that is a valid that is a
valid point. Rivers's couler.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
We actually talked to Mic over there, one of the
owners this morning. Those guys are doing really good if
you have you been there yet to their new place?

Speaker 3 (06:13):
No, but no, but I have to go there because
my knife that I carry, which is probably what fifteen
years old now, is so dull that that it won't
even poke a hole in a piece of paper.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
How about kitchen eves? Aren't your kitchen ized all too?

Speaker 3 (06:27):
They're getting there.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah, yeah, these guys are great.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
It's not just your you know, your typical pocket knives,
it is. It's a it's a wonderful facility.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
I mean, will also do your hedge trimmers.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yeah, I mean it's it's really a neat place if
you're in the market for anything. And actually even if
you're not in the market, just stopping by there. They
get me every time. Every time I walk in there
there is something that I'm like, I kind.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Of need that.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Do they force you to buy something?

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Very No, I end up just doing it.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
The last time. Was that my carry bag that I
carry every day? I mean, they have a great supply
of that too, So definitely check them out out there
in Hilliard. They're in the old Bobby Ray Hall building
real close to Sciota Valley. If you know where that's
at there, I think right next door two doors down
from that, and of course LAPD Training Facility also hoping
to sponsor the show each week.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Let's see Paul Paul.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
What else do we have?

Speaker 1 (07:17):
So let me tell you who's not here today. Jc
is not here. He's apparently playing Grandpaul again with his
new grandchild and stuff, doing some babysitting today. Ed is
serving the second day of his suspension, so we anticipate
him being back next week. He's actually up in Cleveland
for the police memorial with his son, which is kind

(07:39):
of neat. He gets to go with Eddie to the
all the festive festivities up in Cleveland for the police
Memorial week, so that's kind of neat.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
But I do have Paul Paul right here, right here
beside me. That's a bonus there, That is a bonus.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Yeah, yep.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
So what else we got going? If you missed this show, no,
go ahead, no, I was gonna see. If you missed
the show, you can always catch the podcast six ten
WTVN dot com. It's on iHeartRadio, it is on really
any place. The podcasts are out there.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
We are out there.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
I'd like to also point people towards Facebook and YouTube.
We sim will cast the shows live, but I will
have to say they are not very friendly, and I
anticipate today as we go through the gun of the week,
as soon as we touch this.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Gun on our calendar, they're probably gonna kick us off
as they usually do.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
So to one of these days we will figure something
out there to keep that feed going. But right now
they just they just not friendly. Let's just say it
that way. But our past shows are out there as well.
The one with Hitcock forty five was really good, definitely
one to check out. So Pap, Paul, what do we
have around it? There are so many things.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
I want to talk about. The Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act,
Oh LIOSA, Yeah, yeah, most people do not know what
that is or that it even exists. But the acronym
is LEOSA, which is Long Force Officer Safety Act. This
was passed in July two thousand and four and it

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was signed by a President Bush. And this even though
nine eleven happened in two thousand and one, it takes
that long to get something through Congress. But three years
later they passed this law that retired police officers are

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permitted to carry a concealed weapon as long as you
go through the requirements. Of training and things like that.
And the whole purpose of that was because of nine
to eleven President Bush wanted to get more officers, more
train and experience people on the street with carrying firearms,

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and that happened. It's been going on now since two
thousand and four, and we qualified those officers every month
here at LPD and we'll get a group of you
have to qualify once a year in order to be

(10:14):
able to do this, and so we have the database
of about five hundred retired police officers. And it's just
not police officers, the Secret Service, it's the FBI, Homeland Security.
Anybody that lives in Ohio is eligible as far as
they or as long as they meet the requirements. And

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so we put them through qualifications every month and we
usually get a group of about twenty to thirty retired
officers and we have it every month, and so this
is a good thing. But they just recently amended the
law to allow police officers to carry concealed on private
property that's open to the public gool zones that's a biggie,

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and in federal parks and UH facilities. So and this
is a federal laws though is good in all the states.
So I'm so I think that is that's a really
good thing. And some of these officers they still want
to serve and they still want to be able to,

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you know, to help out if something would occur.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
And this with what this also did was allow those
retired officers who've gone through training. I mean, these are
still you know, individuals out there that can act as
a force multiplier and the in the time of need.
And it it allowed them to carry across state lines,
you know, so that really any state you go to
since it is at the federal level. And now with

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this latest provision that I don't know if it's passed completely.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
It has passed, the House has to go to the
center and it looks it looks like is that it
should go.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
But but it's important, I mean, it's important to allow
retard officers to do that. One of the things I
know we've run into is that even with going to
different states, there's you know, different states of different laws
about magazine capacity and sometimes you know how that affects
you going to those states can can impact what you're carrying.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
So but I have to say kudos to New York.
The one time that you and I with our family
went to New York after nine to eleven, and of
course we were both carrying firearms, and New York is
really noted for their strict enforcement of that, even for
law enforcement officers. But places that we've went to there

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in New York, they actually treated us like royalty. Yeah,
they did. We went to the Statue of Liberty and
long line to get through a magnetometer, metal detect or whatever,
and Eric and I we went up ahead like we
normally do, and we identified ourselves as police officers and

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that we were carrying firearms, and they put us and
our wives up ahead of the line, went on through.
We were able to carry our firearms. I think they
put a wristband on us, and a lot of places
do that now. Yeah. And then there was also we
got into the actual side of nine to eleven. They
had it all fenced off then, and we identified ourselves

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and they got us right in, gave us a little
bit of a tour. So they really treated us pretty good.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
They did, and I think most agencies do that.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Papa, Let's go to a break, because on the other side,
we have a Chief Gilbert on the line. We're going
I talk about Operation Unity that happened this week in
Franklin County. We're all talking of broadcasting. Life in the
studio is of LAPD Farms arranged. We'll be back right
after the break. How appropriate is that that La plays
bad company today when it's just you and I. You
know what, I'm taking her off the music choosing list?

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Well, well, you know I used to choose. Yes, well,
I used to pick one of them. I know, I
know it was a regular.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
That's right. Welcome back, Tom Target.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
I'm here's there joined today just with Pap Paul is Paul,
Paul and I. But we have a good friend of
mine on the line right now. We have Chief Gilbert
from Franklin County Sheriff. How you doing Chief?

Speaker 4 (14:12):
I'm doing good, guys. How are you guys today?

Speaker 1 (14:14):
We are great, just having fun up here and talking
and Steph, how are you doing out there?

Speaker 4 (14:19):
Doing good? Doing good? We had a detail this morning
for Race for the Cure. All the spectators and racers
and everybody. We're We're all safe being a part of
the public safety team the Sheriff Office and some of
our deputies, assistant CPD, and our partnering agencies with insurance
for their safety down there. So now that that's over
and joining this nice uh, this night's breezy day.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Great, great, Hey by all accounts, another successful Operation Unity
this week.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
Yeah, you know, anytime we can get together with our
partnering agencies. You know, Sheriff pall One has has made
a very one of his uh one of his promises
to commit to public safetyre in Franklin Counties, to work
closely with our suburban agency, specifically those that we work
side by side with, and then targeting and hearing concerns
from the community in regards to upticking crime and those

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type of those type of details are very important. It's
something that we started through the Central High Chiefs of
Police Association a couple of years ago, and we're going
to continue to keep doing them. We find them to
be very successful, as you know, Eric, from working these
I mean the comments from people seeing us out there,
I just ext I mean they're extaedt to see visual
deterrents of cruisers and stops being made and looking to

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fight and combat crime is very important here and it's
a priority for the sheriff.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
And it is a busy twelve hours.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
I mean, I think right out of the show, what
We were maybe twenty to thirty minutes tide a rule
call and already had a cruiser and a chase.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
Yeah, so we had a short pursuit with an individual
indicative of stolen vehicles and being involved in illegal activity.
Plates didn't belong to the vehicle in front of the deputies.
They attempted a traffic stop and unfortunately, poor choice by
that that individual I mean and obviously in the didn't
note at the time, but once they apprehend him and
realize he's he's a hard and criminal. He's been in

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and out of prison. The vehicle wasn't his, it was,
you know, investigated as a potential stolen vehicle because the
plates running another vehicle. He chose not, he chose not
to stop. We were able to successfully perform a pit
pit maneuver, and at that point he became a foot
chase with him, and very unfortunate. You know, criminals, when
they act, they don't think of their consequences, They don't

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think about and they don't really care for anybody else's regard. Unfortunately,
his dog that was with him got out to run
with him and attacked one of our deputies, and it
was very unfortunate. It wasn't the dog's fault, but we
have to protect ourselves, we have to protect our partners,
we have to protect the community. Unfortunately, pepper spray did
not work, and trying to stop the dog from attacking

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the deputy to the point a deputy got bit in
the cheek and his partner had to discharge his farm
to protect the press, checked himself and the public from
this vicious animal that was attacking deputies.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Wow, and how's the officer doing today, Deputy, He's going good?

Speaker 3 (17:07):
You know.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
He It could have been a lot worse. I mean, uh,
he could he could have could have been bitten in
the eye, could have lost his nose. Luckily it was
around the cheek area and wasn't serious and uh got
a technist shot and obviously follow up with the medics
and that at the er afterwards. But he's doing fine.
He's back to work.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
That's good. That's good.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
You know. I talked to Chief Jones from Clinton Township
afterwards too, and what and you're in this obviously a
lot more. But oftentimes you look at some of these
communities that that have crime problems and stuff, and I
know I'm guilty of this. You you kind of look
at that community and for a second you kind of think, oh,
geez that you know, that's it's kind of a forgotten community.

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There's it's crime ridden, but there's so many good people
in those communities, and the the feedback from those good
people seeing us out there, it gives you a hope
that those communities can try around, and I think that
was one of the most fulfilling things we saw that day.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
Percent You know, part of us being out there and
being visual is to also have interaction in positive contact
with the public, and that's one reason why we keep
those stats as well. And you know, the comments on
social media. The next day, in fact, Chief Jones advised
me the trustees were very happy they saw the North
London Facebook pages where hey, we need to see more
of this, thank you for what you're doing. And the

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trustees were very excited about it and they want to
know when we're going to continue to keep doing them.
So now that our staffing's gotten better, you know, it's
been a little bit of a struggle, but our hiring
is going really well at the Sheriff's office and we've
made it a priority in twenty twenty five, and the
sheriff has made it a priority for us to try
to continue these operations dedicating directed, targeted and enforcement, utilizing

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our data that's driven by calls to service complaints we
see on social media and try to target certain areas
of Franklin County so that we can work with our
partnering agencies and network and go out there and make
a difference. And you know, one of the things I
always like this, I always see and the stats prove it, is,
you know, we did not have a shooting, a stabbing,
a serious call to service in that area, because I

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think it speaks volumes to the deterrence. When we're in
those areas and those volumes of stops are being made,
you know, the crime does go down, and it makes
a big difference. And I think that's what every citizen wants.
They want to see their community safe, and they want
to see people being held accountable for when they're out
conducting criminal activity and praying on the citizens and their neighbors.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Yeah, and just I mean some of the stats I
have here in front of you, there was one hundred
and thirty nine traffic stopped to me that day, sixty citations,
sixty eight warnings, So that goes chief to what you
were saying. It wasn't just about let's see if we
can write a ticket. It was about positive interaction with
some of the community out there. Nine fell in the arrests,
twelve misdemeanor arrests and that includes warrant which we were

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part of. Eighteen people cited for no operators license out
there driving around without a driver's license.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
Three illegal guns seized in three stolen vehicles. We were
fortunate to be a part of one of those. And
one of my takeaways and again, I you know, I'm
kind of just being part time and stuff.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
I don't see it every day.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
But one of the things for me that was so gratifying,
so neat to see is when we were out there
on our on our stolen vehicle, our backup guys was
Chief Gilbert and the chief of Clinton Township. I mean,
you know, hats off to you, guys, Chief that the
leaders that are out there with the guys. I mean,
it was not uncommon to hear the chiefs pulling people

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over and that's that is such a morale boost for
the guys on the front line.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
And really, hats off to you for that.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
Well, I appreciate that I take it very serious to
lead from the front, something I've always done. Happy to
be a cop who happened to be of rank, and
you know, mom, I'm out there with him. I wasn't
chilling that well that day, as you as you heard
from my my larynngiis a loss of voice there for
the day. But you know, I appreciate that, and you know,
kudos to you. You picked up that stolen vehicle was

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one out of a robbery and we had to get
to the bottom and find out, you know, what was
going on with and everything. But you know, when I
want to speak a little bit about illegal guns. So
you know, we we post these stats and we hear
people going, well, you know, we're a carry. I want
to be very clear. These are weapons that are in
possession of felons and those that are are prohibited from
being in and around fireharms, and we continue to we

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continue to take When we say we take illegal guns
off the street, it's individuals who have lost the right
under their Second Amendment because of crimes that they've committed
and they're prohibited. So you know, those are three guns
that will not be used in future crimes because, as
you know, a good guy with a gun has no
issues with Biden by the law, and a bad guy

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with a gun could care less. And you know, anytime
we can get weapons out of the hands of those
that are under disability and prohibited, that's important because we
definitely want to protect everybody's Second Amendment right. But we
see comments every now and then on our Facebook about
the weapons stuff. And the other point I want to
make is, although marijuana is legal in the state of Ohio,

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that doesn't give you a right to drive around with
it in your car and smoking it while you're driving.
And we see those comments too about well, you know,
why are we messing with this marijuana? It's legal now, Yes,
it is legal in the state of Ohio, but they're
very defined manners in which you are to transport and
or purchase the marijuana. So it is still highly illegal
marijuana in Ohio. To possess marijuana, marijuana as long as

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you're not you know, you got to be following.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
The new law, and especially being in position of a
firearm while consuming marijuana.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Is still federally prohibited.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Yeah, it was a good thing though.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Well, Chief, thank you so much for giving everyone the
opportunity to do a little policing, you know, I think
it helps the morale the guys too, after coming off
the last four or five years where you know, law
enforcement took a little bit of a hit, and so
it's good to see the guys out there and enforcing
the laws that we all got into this to do.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
And thanks again for the opportunity.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
You are very welcome, and any listeners out there please
stop and think a law enforcement Austria seem it is
the hardest job in America right now and it continues
to be. And these guys go, these men and women
go out every day putting an uniform on, kissing your
loved ones goodbye, not knowing if they're going to return
home or not. For citizens, they're ready to go serve
later their lifetown for that they don't really even know.

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So kudos to the men and women that do the
job every day because they're the ones that are out
there on the front lines. And thank you guys what
you do to highlight.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
That absolutely, Chief Gilbert, thanks for calling in. We'll catch
up to you here soon. Be safe out.

Speaker 4 (23:37):
There, all right, Thank you guys.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yep, guys that jump to the news.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
We'll be back outside on the other side of that
with some more stories. We're on Target broadcasting live from
the studios of LAPD Farms Arrange.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
We'll be back right after the news. Welcome, I Tom
talking about me.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Here is Derek joined today with my father Paul, Paul
Phil right there he is.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Yeah, who leader, crowd goes crazy.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
So yeah, we didn't have to use our sign either. No.
Did you read about or hear about that prison break
in New Orleans?

Speaker 2 (24:07):
No, you haven't. No, was this a real prison break?

Speaker 3 (24:10):
Yeah? Ten prisoners, some of them were in prison for
murder really, Yeah, and I think one uh, I think
one person had like four four cases against them for murder. Really,
and ten of them at one time got through this
opening in a cell behind the toilet. Oh yeah, but

(24:31):
you know, I looked at the picture. It looks like
it's just dry wall. They're around the walls. It looked
like they have bars on the other side. But I
suppose you could squeeze to them.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
But to do ten do they get away? Did they escape?

Speaker 3 (24:46):
Well? Yeah they did? And uh, I think they've caught
three three so far, and so there's still seven of
them out there.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
No, I didn't hear that.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
Speaking of just some one or two liners on the news, Pabo,
did you see Unfortunately, the Ohio Gun Collector's Association had
that negligent discharge that happened during one of the events.
And unfortunate because this has been an organization that's been
I mean, I think it's been seventy five years now
that OGCA has been out there, and it's really, you know,

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a show that everyone looks up to members. Only well,
since that happened, they no longer were able to do
the show at the Yeah, they were kicked out.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
The Robert Center.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
Yeah, and so they found a new place now and
it's called it's off of seventy five between Cinci and Dayton,
called the Spooky Nook. I never heard of, but apparently
it's even bigger than the Roberts Center and it's supposedly
a fantastic facility and they're super excited. They're going to
start those shows in November, so kind of neat and.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
Then, and of course they have some real strict rules now, which.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
But it's always been pretty strict.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
It's always been strict. But yeah, the accidental discharge was
what a three eight round three eight man people were there, yea.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
They were very lucky some other news out there. I
know I'm not going to do this nearly the justice
that JC does a but a couple of things going on.
We talk about suppressors a lot. There is the Hearing
Protection Act, which talk about things that are frustrating. It
should go through. There is no reason that you shouldn't
be able to buy a suppressor just like you do

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a firearm, fill out the background check.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
And be done with it.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Today it's set up through the NFA branch, meaning that
you have to submit fingerprints and do all this stuff
and pay a two hundred dollars tax stamp. It's crazy
for what it is, so every one. I don't know
why anyone wouldn't be on board with just setting it
up like a normal firearm where you have to go
do a background check. Well, they're making some progress that

(26:46):
the House Committee proposed something this week that would eliminate
the tax part of it, which okay, it's half the issue,
but it still would be an NFA item, So I
don't know if that's maybe that's just a stepping star
owned to get it the full way. But nonetheless it's
still being talked out there, which isn't a bad thing.
Two cases this week the Supreme Court kind of kicked

(27:08):
back down to the lower courts, and these are interesting
and Papaul, you and I were talking about this before
one was the Supreme Court said that in domestic violence
cases that people who have been convicted of domestic violence
still are not able to own or.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Possess a firearm.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
And I don't know, I have you know, I have
mixed emotions about that. I mean, this has been on
for I kind of remember when this went into place
because I was in law enforcement and it's probably been
twenty years now and stuff.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
I mean, domestic violence typically as a misdemeanor, misdemeanor, and
I don't know, I know what the intent is here.
I mean, obviously, if somebody is in that situation, if
you can do something to prevent them from owning a firearm,
it's probably not a bad thing. But I just you
see so many cases where a DV occurs and it's

(28:02):
you know, it doesn't rise to the level of, you know,
violence per se.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
So I don't know.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
I just I gotta I have mixed emotions about that.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
Jo. I mean, even if you shove somebody, that could
be domestic violence.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Yeah, a child. I mean, you know, somebody else within
your household and stuff. I don't know, it's just it's just,
you know.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
The one.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
The one thing that I guess is positive with this
and the next story is that I think federally now
they're putting some parameters in place where if you have
been convicted of domestic violence or a felon, you can
there is a means now where you can go and
get get your gun rights back. I don't believe on
the federal level that has been in place for years

(28:42):
and years and years, and I think that's coming back.
So maybe that's the answer to this. The other one,
the other case was the Supreme Court kickback down and
agreed with the lower courts and that non violent felons
can will also continue to not be allowed to own
and possess a firearm. So that I mean, I don't
I don't know. I mean, that's that's probably not a

(29:04):
bad thing. But you look at it, and if you
step back and look at the right to keep the
bear arms, there's probably an argument that says, hey, if
you have a if you're a non violent felon and
you've done your time or whatever, that case may be
there might be an argument saying maybe you should be
able to have your gun rights back.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
So I don't know.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
There's all these are all thought provoking things that I'm
sure are probably going to bubble back up to the
Supreme Court here at some point. So what else, Paul, Paul,
let's see.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
Just see So.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Oh, yeah, so you talk about the media. We were
talking about that earlier. I gotta I think you got
the same email too. So I got this email, and
I got to admit I was a little bit happy
at first. But the email this week, the title of
it was Trump just made machine guns legal again. And
I thought, well, I didn't think they were illegal. I mean,

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you had to go through some paper and stuff, but
that was the headline, Trump just made machine guns legal again.
So someone who's not in this industry, you look at
that and you think, Jesus they were illegal. And they
go on to say they're allowed back on the streets again. Well,
it was from a Mom's Demand action, every Town for
Gun Safety organization from Bloomberg, and the whole thing was

(30:21):
a spam thing. But for those who get that, who
don't know this industry, that's what we're up against. It's
a constant, constant battle. So it's it's just any more reason,
just one more reason to stay vigilant, because even though
the administration is positive towards gun rights and everything, there
continues to be these things that pop up.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
That just steady pressure, steady you know, fake news about stuff.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
You know, I'm almost just constant.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
I'm all right if the news tells the truth, and
even if the truth doesn't support necessarily what I believe.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
I mean, tell the yeah, not leave you know, half information.
You just give about half the information and leave some
of the important things off right.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
You know, it's almost almost guilty by by negligence, by omission,
I think the way they call it. So we talked
a little bit at the beginning about the story that
aired this week on Channel six.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
We reached out to them.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Probably about a month ago, and I said, look, summertimes coming.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
We have It's like every time you.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Turn on the news, you have stories about juveniles carrying guns,
and I mean, it kind of.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Seems to be all over the news.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
And we have seen a couple of things come through
on a state sales or out there in the market
with BB guns that look like real guns. Now, on
one side, of me. I'm thinking that's kind of neat, Papaul,
look at them. That looks kind of real, and there
is a place for it, because if you have a
glock nineteen and you want to practice your trigger and
you want to practice drawing from the holster, it's it's

(31:56):
a neat thing. I mean, it's it's the exact weight,
It looks starn reel. I mean, there's really nothing to
indicate this isn't a real gun. It's a pelagun or
a BB gun, and the same way with the three
sixty five. But the flip side of that is getting
in the hands of these kids who are then brandishing them,
you know, for street cred and to show that look,

(32:17):
I have a gun.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
See I don't understand. Years ago, you know, the gun
had to be identified with with an orange marking or something,
but now that doesn't apply.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
I think, I think that applies to toy guns, something
that's technically considered toy. I don't know what differentiates a
toy gun versus a BB gun, But the problem with
that is you were getting the thugs then painting orange
around the barrel to make people hesitate like, oh, it's
just a toy gun.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
And here is a real gun.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
I mean there were even cases we had a picture
of a NERF gun that they had doctored up with
a real.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Gun on the inside. So you know.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
Well, the other thing too is that sometimes the the
bad guy, bad person will paint the gun a different color,
and but that in itself is not I mean, we
have real guns that are different colors now, you know,
and so you know, it makes it very very difficult

(33:18):
for law enforcement. Do you remember the time we were
working together up in one of our residential areas and
we looked inside this car and there was a gun
in there and we're thinking, whoa. You know, it was
probably on the seat, and so we staked it out
for how many hours? And it turned out to be

(33:38):
a toy gun, wasn't it?

Speaker 2 (33:40):
I think it was.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
So I think part of the moral of this story
is if you have one that's in your house, your
child has one, and again there is a purpose for them,
you have to make sure that does not leave the premise.
You cannot let the child throw that in the backpack,
throat on your bike, walk down the street within in
a waistband, because unfortunately the news is going to read,
you know, they bring this a BB gun and they

(34:02):
were shot by a concealed carry holder or a law
force officer.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
I don't think a child, a miner should have a gun.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
I agree, you know, I agree, And Papa you bought
the you know, hit the nail on the head. When
it happens, and it will happen again, It's happened before
in Columbus, in throughout Ohio. When it happens when one
of these guns are pulled on an officer and the
officer it has to to shoot to defend themselves, because
it's not up to us to say, no, wait a second,

(34:30):
is that a BB gun? Is that one real? Because
I'll tell you there is no way to differentiate. Even
the barrel looks like the barrel of a nine millimeter.
When that happens, what is that headline going to read.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
Papa officer shoots unarmed.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Child, all day law, all day law.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
He was unarmed, unarmed And so that's just that's kind
of what we were trying to get out in front
of and bring attention to, and hopefully the story this week.
I'm fortunate that they picked up on it. Thanks to
Blazer for having me on for an hour on Thursday,
to time talk about it. So maybe we'll bring a
light to that.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
You know, some of these kids too, Senior prank day.
I was in the drive through at McDonald's just right
down the street, and I had just got my food
and I'm looking on in the parking lot and here
a car stops. Three individuals come out with what I

(35:25):
thought was guns. At first they were squirre guns, but
the instinct was, wow, you know, you know, this is
something really bad happening. And I'm thinking, man, I don't
want to get involved in this. And it turns out
that it was a senior prank day and there was
square guns and you know the two cars were you know,

(35:45):
they knew each other. Yeah, I mean they don't use
common sense.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
Well they're not, they're not taught common sense. The parenting
is is left to the law enforcement on the street
unfortunately sometimes.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
But well, let's go to a break on the other
side on our high horse. I am, I am man.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
I'm still mad about the thefts of these guns that
continues to happen out there with good lall biting people.
So we'll talk about that in a little bit more
on Target Broadcasting Live from this two duos of LAPD
Farms Range.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
We'll be back after the break, Papa, this is your era.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
I never did follow Stepan Wolf. You never did, No,
you know it's funny. I mean this one was not bad,
but yeah, you know, I.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Mean by today's standards.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
You watched the video from this, yeah, and you would
think listening to these are these crazy guy by and
it's a very tame well you know what.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
I was watching the video of Janis Joplin. Yeah, talk
talk about really rank stuff. You know.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Hey, that was your era.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
Yeah, but people.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Doing back then, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Yeah, welcome back on Target. I'm here's Eric joined today
with Papa and I kind of kind of been nice.
Paplo is sitting here just talking like we normally do.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
All I can say is my birthday's coming up? Eric, Okay,
yeah you have Yes, That's all I can say. For
those of you not watching on Facebook or YouTube. He
has two things here that seems to want and uh yeah,
So so do I select this one because of the wood, Yeah,
I love the wood? Or do I select this other

(37:23):
one because it's also neat? Yes? Huh?

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Now with Papa, like I propose to you and I
can put it out here for the listening audience to choose.
There's two here. I would be happy with either one.
You would be happy with either one. Lourie's out of town.
I think we make it happen.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
I'm just saying, hey, wait a minute, we can make
it happen with Lord in town doesn't make it.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
It makes it easier. Just out of town.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
No, no, no, no, both of them kind of neat
guys in the In the remaining two minutes, I want
to just put another thing out and we're gonna keep
talking about this until until it changes. But we had
I had a friend this week, good friend who's a
gun guy who who knows you know, knowses stuff, had
a firearm taken from the car and stolen out of

(38:05):
the car. And it just I just continue to get frustrated.
I think because we see it on the other side,
we see the bad guy brandishing it, you know, you
see it all the time. And the bad guys they're
not going to l EPD to get their guns. They're
stealing them. And we as gun owners, as safe, responsible

(38:27):
gun owners, need to do our part to make sure
these are secured in the vehicle. They should not be
unsecured in a parking lot or overnight in the vehicle.
And and I was telling this story last night to
another another friend and he's like, yeah, I got to
stop doing that. And I said, wait a second, I said,
you you don't secure it as well. He's like, no,

(38:51):
I keep it in the glove box. I'm like, you
gotta be kidding me, I said, do you? And this
this friend is is you know, has a lot of
law enforcement buddies. I said, what are you doing? I
mean that is you are that is it will happen,
you know. And here's the other thing too, when this
this one buddy this week, the guy was caught on

(39:13):
video in the parking lot checking cars out, and he
went to many cars, tried the handles, looked inside with
the flashlight, but he chose my buddies. And the reason
was is the car looked like a cool car to
break into in that backpack, slaying there and oh what's that?
That's a wrapper for a box of Ammo and what's that?

(39:33):
You gotta you gotta think this through, guys. You can't
let your car look like the perfect target and think
you're hiding it in the glove box and the center console,
run into.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
The seat you know, I have to come clean here.
I used to carry a gun in my truck and
I had it in the console, but it was it
was so buried, and it was in the case. It
was locked up. It was locked up, and I figure, well,
you know, it takes a long time to get to it.
Why do I even have it if I can't get
to it real quick? So I took it out for

(40:06):
a long time. Then I put it back in. Uh,
and I thought I had a real need hiding place
that I could get to it easily. But then I
still said, Nat, I'm not going to do this. Most
of the time when I'm out in about, I have
a firearm on. But if you're wearing a seatbelt and everything,
you can't get to it. That's why I did it.
But I stopped doing it a long time ago.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
It's just, uh, we just got to be smart about it.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Just makes me sick because these thugs, these juvenile thugs.
It's you know, they'll break into ten cars and they
know that ten percent of the time they're going to
get a gun out of it. And it's I don't
know why. You know, you talk about the city doing
all this crazy stuff and spending money on stuff that's worthless.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Yet they won't.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
They won't buckle down and partner with the stores around
town or with somebody and say, hey, look, guys, here's
a PSA.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Let's do a commercial about that.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
But no, they're they're off, you know, paying for people
to have their break lights fixed so that potlics don't
pull them over. So it's just crazy. It's just just
something that that was true. They I remember that we're
going to city council approved money for to fix people's
brake like because too many people were getting pulled over
by the police for their brake lights. You know, how
about doing something that that's real out there, guys.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
Come on. So it's just I don't know, it's just
one of those things that we got it. We got
to uh.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
And you don't have to secure it if you're going
to leave it in your vehicle. If you find yourself
in a position where you're carrying your gun and now
you're you're going into some place that that you can't
bring it, have a means of locking that up. The
trunk is better than under your seat. Put it in
there in a lock box. We I mean, the lock
boxes are cheap thirty.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
Dollars the lock box that I had my gun in
in my truck. My truck got hit and got totaled,
and Eric and I we went down to the junk
yard where they had it to get some things out
of it. And we now that there wasn't any gun
in the lock box. But we pride and pride and
had tools and everything. We couldn't loosen up that lock

(41:59):
box and it was just screwed down to the to
the plastic thirty dollars lock box. Yeah, thirty dollars. And
I still have that.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Yeah, And so guys come come in, you don't. You
don't have to come here to buy it. We have
them if you. If you do, though, go on Amazon,
go to other stores, get something to secure it. Do
not let yourself be the next victim, because you're enabling
somebody to uh to go out there and call serious.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Harm to someone. So there you go, PAULA, that's my
soapbox for.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
That is it?

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Huh see?

Speaker 1 (42:27):
I'm sure I got something else anything else out there, Paul, Paul,
we didn't get to Guns of the Week very much.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
Uh well, okay, I mean birthday, just think birthday.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Okay, So you got a couple of weeks for people
to donate to you.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
I tried that one. You know, if everybody listening was
sending a dollar to me.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Yeah, we got fifty bucks that time. Fifty bucks.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
I don't think we got that much.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
We got fifty bucks, but Mom put in twenty five
of it. So yeah, you know, well, Pap, Paul, thanks
for sitting in and stuff. In the coming weeks, We've
got a lot of good people coming up.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
That's good.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Dave Yost is going to come on here in a
couple of weeks talk about qualified immunity. That's something that's
really important to the law enforcement community and that might
get a vote here in Ohio and the fall. So
it's something that people need to educate themselves on before
that goes on the ballot, because it's something that we
need to look at very seriously to help men and
women in law enforcement and other public positions too. It

(43:26):
doesn't just apply to law enforcement. So he's coming up soon.
I got worried that Vaivek is going to be coming
on soon. There was even a chance that he was
coming on today, but he is scheduled just so busy.
But he's going to come on, you know, since he's
running for governor and now he wants to get out
there and talk to some people and much much more so,
all kinds of good stuff coming down the pipe, Popol, yep.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
And I was real happy to be able to sit
in today. Well, I was real happy to be able
to sit in.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Really, yeah, you can sit in at any time, but
I refused.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
To say it most of the time.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Yeah, that's right, all right, we'll good having you.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
Have a great week this week, and as always, as always,
let's be careful out there.