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February 22, 2025 • 45 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I know, I know, I promised a good opening modernlogue today.
Well it just ain't gonna happen yet. This week at
LPD has been eventful, but today we're excited to welcome
my guest to the show to discuss a really, really,
really neat event coming up in a couple of weeks
where there's still seats available and it includes a dinner

(00:22):
like you have never seen. I'll give you a hinto
of the menu, amongst other things, Python, Coyote, Yak and
bobcat All will be on the menu in a couple week.
Seats still available on Target. It's up next. Good afternoon,
welcoming out Target. We're broadcasting live from the studios of

(00:42):
LAPD Firearms Range and Training Facility that's located at Triple nine,
nine Bethel Road. I'm your'st Derek and joined to join
today with my father Phil to the audience.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
You bring me out of retirement.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Eric, Yes, shame, I would have shamed youatt to retire.
Are you gonna mess with the whole time? Or what
are you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:08):
My feet Get is caught on the course.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Chuck is like the first time he's been here, so
what has been going on? And we should have JC
on the line. Jac you there, wake him up, any audience,
say that one more time.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Jac I just said, it's great to hear you.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
Good to hear your voice. I'm gonna echo up here
for some reason, but I don't know why.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
So yeah, it must be all that snow up there.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
Over two feet on the roof. So yeah, Santa would
have a hard time getting here today if.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
It was Christmas.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Wow, jac I think I don't know if I mentioned
to you or not. It has been a nut a
couple of weeks here at the store or some stories
not suitable for radio, Chuck Douglas, but it has been
it is, it's been crazy. You know what that isn't me.
There are more and more crazy or drug induced crazy
people coming around. I don't know what it is. It's

(02:06):
like we've never had it at this level, but now
it is commonplace.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
We just need to put the hammer down on these people.

Speaker 5 (02:15):
We don't. We don't put crazy people anywhere anymore. That's
a problem. Remember back in the golden days, there actually
used to be places where if you were mentally ill,
you were you were dangerous whatever. There were mental institutions,
there were places where you went. Now they're behind you
in line at Walmart and with Chuck, what do we

(02:35):
do with the juveniles? Kid jail? I've been saying that
for two years now, Man, kid jail, get it. Let's
let's build one.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Is that juvenile detention?

Speaker 5 (02:45):
Okay, fine, call it whatever you want, kid jail, Lock
them up, lock them up, give them them.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Give them a chance, but not a second, a third. Seven.
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Chuck, Yeah, right here, you got my vote.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
You can announce me today.

Speaker 5 (03:02):
Do man. I would doge Columbus into.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
The time up.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
You would be just like the President.

Speaker 5 (03:08):
They wouldn't know what to do with me.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Guys.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
We are the owners of LAPED Firearms, ranging in training facility,
interactive in law enforcement. But for one hour on Saturdays,
we put together a group of firearm experts to discuss
new products in the market, training tips, and oftentimes political
topics surrounding the Second Amendment. Our commitment that has always
been to bring you facts about our industry and help
listeners and customers with safe, responsible ownership of firearms. Today,

(03:32):
Jac's going to start us out with some news and guys,
I hate JC. I hesitate celebrating the other. Another person's demise.
But I am jumping up and down today with one
of the news stories that jac has so that I'm
sure he'll get too soon. You don't even know what
it is.

Speaker 5 (03:49):
You have no idea. I was looking over your little
cheat sheet to see if I could find out.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yes, it is good, it is. It is great news
for those of us in the firearms industry. Put it
that way. He'll talk to that, talk about that in
a second. At twelve thirty. At twelve thirty, are good
friend Jim Atkinson from Buckeye Rod and Gun Club will
be joining us. He's gonna be calling in and talking
about the event that we have been a part of

(04:14):
now for. This is gonna be the third year. It
is coming up in a couple of weeks. It's at
the Columbus Athletic Club, kind of a neat venue and
the menu is out of this world. It is spectacular.
He's gonna tell us a little bit about that, a
little bit about some of their raffles and why you
just might need to consider going to that. After that,

(04:34):
we're gonna do. I'm gonna I'm hopefully getting to a
little PSA that I've been trying as public service an aultimate, Chuck.

Speaker 5 (04:40):
Yeah, I'm familiar with the sure.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yes, we're hoping getting to a little PSA in the
final segment of the show, because the guys there is
just something that keeps bubbling up and I don't know
what we can do about it, but as safe, responsible
gun owners, we need to take it serious because if
we don't, somebody else is going to bestow upon us
something that we don't like. So we're gonna talk about

(05:02):
that in the final in the final segment before that, though,
Next Saturday, Chuck, got this on your calendar. Get out
your little phone. Next Saturday, Yes, March first. Right here
at the store, it is Glock Days. And you might
be saying, what does that mean? What does that mean?
We I'm gonna tell you what it means, Chuck. That
means we have representatives from Glock here. You can shoot,
you can test fire, all kinds of blocks. There are

(05:24):
some sales going on. I'm not gonna tell you exactly what,
but there are some worthwhile sales going on. There are
a lot of giveaways. Our good friends at US law
Shield are gonna provide some food. They're gonna be here
as well. It will be the place to be next Saturday,
starting at ten ten to four.

Speaker 5 (05:39):
I think the.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Hours are all right, all right, you got that down
there perfect. What else? Oh, federal plus P plus POPA.
We talked about that last week. Yes, JC actually did
a little little discussion of that. We got more in.
We had a huge amount to go out the door
this week. But if you're in the market for federal
nine milimeter plus B plus, don't see it often, Chuck.

(06:00):
This is what they often reserve just for law enforcement.
You have to have a right gun that's able to
fire it. But it is some good stuff. As they say, is.

Speaker 5 (06:08):
That's your typical fifty round box or you do fifty.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
It's a fifty round box. I think it runs around
forty dollars, so it's really not that bad for defensive
AMMO and stuff. But we do have more back in.
I'd like to thank our sponsors, Jackson, Egress, Windows US,
Lost Shield, Black Wing Shooting Center, rivers Edge, Cutlery, and
of course LPD Training Facility, all who make the show
possible each week. The voices you're hearing around the table
we got JC. Are you staying warm? Jac?

Speaker 4 (06:33):
I am? I am? And just a note on that
AMMO you don't see much of it as you only
sell it to law enforcement agency, so what you're available
to buy out there are like overruns that they've had.
So it's wrong to be rare for all of our
customers who want something a little unusual. But you just
can't go into a store and buy normally we have it,

(06:55):
so stop in. It's a bargain.

Speaker 6 (06:57):
If you use the wrong firearm that's not rated for that,
it will.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
Yeah out of your forehead. So yeah, you don't want
to be doing that.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Yeah, that is true. Hey, I also need to give
a shout out to my buddy Lizzie over there at
the Lincoln County Conservative Club. I was able to go
out there spend some time with them this week, got
to speak to him. A great group out there. Shared
the stage with Judge King, who's gonna be running for
Ohio Supreme Court. So more to hear about that, but
a great group of people neat venue out in Johnstown.

(07:33):
If you're in that area, definitely worth while checking out.
I think they meet the third Thursday of each month,
something to that effect. But thanks again for the invite
on that, Chuck Douglas to my right, Chuck, you know
what I'm always so honored that you're here, because you
are everywhere these days. You are you like you are
like WTV in But here is where my heart is.
Say look at that, look at that. No, really, I

(07:53):
keep my money. I enjoy listening to you every week.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
I do.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
I mean as much as we talked, just you know,
on the side, I always like to hear what you
have to say, because you always got some nuggetive information
out there that's interesting to all. Pap Paul sitting to
my left, you're here because, well because I have a
gun of the week that I wanted to do today
and you bought it out from under me.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Well, sometimes you have to do that.

Speaker 6 (08:20):
But I'm here because I was waiting for the doughnuts
that never came.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Now, sometimes that happens.

Speaker 6 (08:26):
But you know what, Now you know I've been retired,
now okay, and then I come back.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
I have a headset that's hell together with a rubber band.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Come on, I know that's the kind of that's the
kind of operation we got going here. I guess guys,
if you miss a show, you can always catch a
podcast at six ten to b TV in dot com.
We're on iHeartRadio. We're on iTunes, Spreaker, at really any
place you get your podcasts. We are there also broadcasting
streaming live on Facebook and YouTube, but they haven't shut
us down for at least a couple of weeks, so

(08:56):
hopefully we're good to go.

Speaker 5 (08:57):
And probably sleep at the wheel at Facebook. They'll wake up.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yeah, we got We got kicked out from Facebook a
couple of weeks ago because John held up a gun.

Speaker 5 (09:05):
I think that's what he said, ammunition hate speech hit
the button.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Yes, yeah, that's pretty much what it was, speaking of
j C. JC. You got any news for us?

Speaker 4 (09:15):
I do, but I want to make a correction for
our affections out there. Who said he said plus three
plus nine milimeter? He said, picking the cellar out of
your head. I have two revolvers that take nine millimeter.

Speaker 6 (09:25):
I mean maybody you know, Ruger and Jose So so
when when people say, hey, he doesn't know what he's
talking about, I mean not.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
But one of them is not rated at plus P.
And if I used that in my revolver, I probably
wouldn't be picking cylinders out of my head. And that
was my field repair Phil that thank he's coming off.
That was my rubber band repair sorry about.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
That, but thank you, John.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
All Right, news, lots of news. Uh, this is the
one when you said the demise of somebody. Well, I
don't think it was the actual passing away, but the
position was now demise.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
Breaking news.

Speaker 4 (09:59):
It just happened just the other day that the Chief
Council Legal Counsel for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms
and Explosives, that's the ATF has been terminated from her
position when was escorted immediately out of the building.

Speaker 7 (10:14):
Whoa and jac I hate to celebrate the demise of somebody,
but I have good friends within the agency who are
who are celebrating.

Speaker 5 (10:28):
I was trying to keep that from happening.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Huh, Okay, that was appropriate.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
That's a novice over there.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
I have your signs of fled down. I have good
friends inside the agency who are good to see her
removed and replaced with somebody else because she was not
for the people.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
No, she's a Pamela Hicks was her name, And of
course she got her position as chief legal counsel by
donating lots of money to the Democratic National Committee and
plenty of do Hillary Clinton back in her day. So
what is her reward I'm like, ahead, well, let's we'll
put you in here and try to do your dog
gondess to you crimp the Second Amendment in any way possible.

(11:08):
So she was not a nice person, and so she's alive.
So people going, oh, they're cheering her demise with the
demise of her in her position, And yes, everybody is
cheering that inside and outside. So I love it to
know that unplugged your computer, grabbed her and you know,
hustled her out the door and walked her to the door,
and good riddance. So that hopefully she was a part

(11:31):
of the reason why so many of the good licensed
gun dealers were under the a threat of losing their
FFLs because a tea wasn't crossed or the wrong color
of ink was used on a form or something like that.
People are already passed all of their their scrutiny with exams,
but she had them send the stuff back in so

(11:54):
they could go over it with a finer tooth comb
And over three hundred percent increase in the number of
revocations of FFLs only because she was there and doing
the guide.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
So glad to see her go in GC's I pointing note,
I could care less who these people donate money. She
could donate her paycheck to the Democratic Party as long
as she enforces the law and isn't trying to take
away our constitutional rights. And that's that's where they crossed
the line. I mean, it wasn't the case. She had
an agenda, and we felt it. Everyone in the industry

(12:27):
felt it. So glad to see her go.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
Yeah, glad to see her go.

Speaker 5 (12:32):
Hey.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
We have this a couple of news stories here that
are that are big and you know, this is a
a gun show. We're talking about guns. But if this
would go through and this case would be lost, there
would probably be no more. And we've talked about it
and talked about it now for over a year. And
this is the lawsuit which is coming up to the
Supreme Court. They're going to have their hearing on it

(12:54):
on March fourth, so this is not that many days away.
And this is the Mexico, the Country of Mexico suing
Smith and Wesson and six other major gun manufacturers in
the United States, where they want ten billion dollars not
paid by our government, paid by these gun manufacturers, which

(13:15):
would totally shut them down. Ten billion dollars. And that
is because they're blaming the murders of that are perpetrated
by the narco terrorist drug cartels in Mexico in the
United States going, oh, well, they're using some of the
guns you know, manufacturing United States. Therefore, we want the

(13:35):
United States to pay US ten billion dollars for these
terrorist organizations. That's coming to the Supreme Court. They're going
to hear in March fourth whether or not they should
take it to the full court hearing. So they're going
to hear the arguments. What's interesting about this is that
the head attorney that's presenting this is actually an American.

(13:57):
His name is Jonathan Lower. He was the chief legal
council for Brady Anti gun group, and you know, he's
declared that this is what he's doing. But but that's
his goal is to shut down the gun manufacturers. What's
interesting about this is our president just came in and
he just recently, I guess was well a couple of
weeks ago announced his executive order to impost tariffs on

(14:20):
Mexican imports. And his quote and this is a direct
quote from the President. So the Mexican drug trafficking organizations
have an in tolerable alliance with the government of Mexico.
The government Mexico has afforded safe haven to the cartels
to engage in the manufacturing transportation of dangerous narcotics, which
collectively have led to the overdose desks of hundreds of

(14:42):
thousands of American victims. And then he issued his executive
order to start the process of designating cartels as foreign
terrorist organizations. Well, and these are organizations that you've probably
heard the trend Dilagua, MS thirteen, you know, Solo Cartel,
and and five others as foreign terrorist organizations. Well, the

(15:04):
new president, her last name sounds like this sounds like
good usual named shin Bomb, but the Shin Bomb the
president of Mexico, and she, after hearing this at a
press conference last week, threatened that if this is her quote,
if they declared these criminal groups as terrorists, then we
have to expand our US lawsuit to claim that the

(15:26):
US firearm manufacturers are complicit in eidy and supporting narco
terrorist drug cartels. So now because of that, they're going
to add on to this case. But what's amazing is
she said that, And as I talked about last week,
they had a big ceremony for their defense forces a

(15:46):
week ago, and who was standing next to her but
the former Mexican Secretary Defense, Salvador c wife goes standing
right next to her, and he is known as the
godfather to the drug Coachel. Don't have anything to do
with this, so won't see if this comes to uh,
you know, we're hoping that this will be thrown out.

(16:07):
But we're hoping that the protection a lawful Protection of
a Commerce Act for arms will will take place to
Placa and they'll see it. But if not, we could
be it'd be amazing.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Big trouble and big trouble JC. Let's jump to the
Let's jump to a quick break. We'll come back on
the other side. We'll talking about the guy in the
week and some more news wrong talking broacasting life from
the studios of l APD Firearms Range. We'll be back
right to the break. Will you put on? Just grab
another headset?

Speaker 5 (16:36):
Whole lot money I don't need. Oh, we're back. It's
a song about Papa. Mm hmmm, well my baby. His
name is Paul. Paul.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
I was surprised they had this in their their playlist.
I think that's Ella dipping into my phone again. Probably
welcome back to Target. I'm your host, Eric joined today
in the LPD studios. I got mister Chuck Douglas at
my right side. I got JC on the line, and
I Paul Paul's here, but he's just not here. So

(17:15):
will you put on the headset for crime any sake?

Speaker 5 (17:17):
You throw a rubber band in that guy's waiting.

Speaker 6 (17:19):
My head sets falling apart. You got me turned on
there because I can't hear myself.

Speaker 5 (17:25):
You know what, I can only do so much the
Spinner's rubber band man in tribute to him. That would
have been a better song.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
For yeah, jez Pete. So, speaking of paup Paul, welcome
back to on Target and Paul Paul, you are here
because we got in something this week. That man, it
just touches our heart and it never left It never
left my office because you came in and you said.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
I want that.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yes, pretty much like that pretty much how it goes?
What do you what do you have in front of you?
That is the gun of the week.

Speaker 6 (17:56):
This weak Let me first say that this is only
the third one that I've seen in my life. All right,
one you have and well there was another oh whatever,
oh early on when I was young and the guy
next door had it. But this is a Smith and

(18:17):
Wesson Model forty Centennial. It has a backstrap.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Safety, which you don't see. It's an excellent.

Speaker 6 (18:29):
Shape, it's even's got the the old style cylinder release.
And I did a little bit of research on this.
This well, yeah, this is also called nickname the Lemon Squeeze.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Why was it called the Centennial?

Speaker 6 (18:47):
Well because it came out. Uh see, you thought you're
gonna trip me up, didn't you. It came out on
the hundredth anniversary of Smith and Wesson back in nineteen
fifty two, nineteen fifty, so Smith and Wesson was around
one hundred years back then. Anyways, It's a Jay frame,

(19:10):
two inch barrel, five shot thirty eight special double action
only the hammer is totally concealed now for people that
like this firearm, and Smith and Weston came out because
they stopped making these nineteen seventy four.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
But Smith and Weston came.

Speaker 6 (19:30):
Out in nineteen ninety with a Model six forty, which
is similar, doesn't have the backstrap safety. But again, I
like the older ones. I like blue and the whole
bit beautiful gun. I fell in love with this one.
I saw it many years ago. You know what, they

(19:50):
also had a Model forty.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Two, did you I saw that a lightweight version, a.

Speaker 6 (19:53):
Lightweight aluminum frame. I don't think that went very well,
but you know, caught on very well.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Now. Well.

Speaker 6 (20:01):
I always like to do is to mention what movies
these were in, all right? Uh, the movies going back
to nineteen seventy the horse and the actor was Felix
or Felix Martin, and then the other one nineteen seventy
two was Fear Is the Key and in twenty twenty

(20:26):
three fairly recent extraction two now the TV series Doctor
Who Startsky or Starsky and Hutch, Miami, Rice, prison Break,
and Blue.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Bloods all had the lemon squeeze.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Yes exactly.

Speaker 5 (20:46):
I love the finish. It looks like somebody bought that
and just kept it in the case. Never how sched it.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
It's a cliche, but I'll pass it over you child,
and the anything about it too, which you and actually
we have not checked on this. One of the things
that that's kind of a hidden fact on these is
it if you take the grips off, there is a
pin that came with the firearm. Oftentimes it is lost
and that pin can be used to pin down the
grip safety to lock the backstrap. Yeah, so if you

(21:11):
didn't if you didn't want that, They're one of the
things I was reading about it, which is kind of interesting.
He says the revolver was made with the grip safety
because some shooters couldn't get used to the idea of
firing revolver without cocking the hammer.

Speaker 6 (21:23):
So I don't know, maybe back then that's what they
did too. You know, when I went through the police
academy in nineteen seventy three, part of our qualifications with
the firearm was you did cock it back. Really now,
you did cock back the hammer. And you know now,
you know, you look at that and you're saying, what,
you'll never use that firearm cocking back the hammer.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
It's going to be a quick double action course.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yeah, right now, JC, what do you think.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
I'm jealous? I would love to have one of the
older ones. You know, I'll have the six or four, uh,
you know, the modern version of it. But there's just
something about that lemon squeezer. I know it was expensive
to make, and like you and everyone else, I don't
understand why you had to have that that safety on
the on the revolver, but that they made it. But

(22:15):
I'm so glad that he has it and I'm dying
to see it. It's a all those guns are fantastic.
So yeah, this is probably another gun that I would
not want to have thirty eight special plus P plus party.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
I would not put plus P plus in there, even
plus P.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
Yeah, but beautiful guy, I love differs.

Speaker 5 (22:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
And if if my mother happens to be listening, you
traded something in for this. This wasn't an addition. It
was not an addition to your otherwise collection. Paba good
Gun of the week. Kind of jealous on that one.
And we come back on the other side. Guys, we're
going to talk to our good friend Jim about an
upcoming wild game dinner that you might just want to

(23:01):
consider going to. We're on Talking Broadcasting Life from the
studios of LPD Farms and Arrange. We'll be back after
the break. Welcome back to on Talking. I'm here Sarah
joined today in the LAPD studios. I am shoulder to shoulder,
cheek to cheek with mister Chuck Douglas.

Speaker 5 (23:22):
Oh that's a little friendly, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
I think? So Now let's let's kind of clarify your
statement to mom.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
All right, if you were listening, it was.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
An exchange, Mom, Yeah, no money passed our hands.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Was talking about we had a He had a text
message during the break from my mother stating is that
while we were short on grocery money this week, so
with the purchase of his new gun. So hey, good
luck Papa going home.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
It was a trade, Linda.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
And as the voice of my father, Phil and jac
is on the line with us too. Guys, our next
guest a good friend of ours, and it is some
one that is worth knowing. Mister Jim Atkinson is from
the Buckeye Rod and Gun Club and they do an
annual dinner at the Columbus Athletic Club. I mean, how

(24:11):
much neater can you get with having a dinner there
downtown to the Clumbus Athletic cub So we thought we'd
invite him on today to talk about the wild Game
dinner that is coming up in a few weeks.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
How you don't, sir, I am awesome today. Eric. Now
I'm not shoulder to shoulder with you. I'm reporting in
live from Caesar Creek State Park this morning. Perfect an
awesome three mile hike with Buckeye Hiking this morning. Great
group down.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
There, great great Jim. So for people who don't know,
tell us a little bit about Buckeye rodd and Gun Club.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
Buckeye Rodden Gun is an offshoot of the Athletic Club
of Columbus and for decades we've hosted an angual wild
Game Dinner and then for longer than that. Our signature
event now in our thirty nine pier is our annual
walleye War, which we host upon Lake Erie at support
Clinton and we raise a little bit of money for

(25:09):
youth development. We try to get young people who perhaps
have never experienced the shooting sports or ever had a
chance to go out in the field with their uncle
or their dad or their grandmother. Maybe we'd like to
give them that opportunity, because if you don't know somebody,
a family member who can give you that experience, it
can be hard to find that person. And we're happy

(25:30):
to be those people.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
That is great and we are happy to be a
part of it. For the third year. Coming up Friday,
March fourteenth, you're hosting. One of the big events is
the annual wild Game Dinner at the beautiful Downtown Athletic
Club starts at five pm. Tell us a little bit.
It just like your typical like chicken or beef, you know,

(25:52):
your choice with caesar side. So how is that? Is
that what we're looking at the menu?

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Well, Eric, let's just say it's a kickup from that.
And this year our chef Matt has really outdone himself
in terms of our menu. I can assure you that
if you've ever been to an event like this, you're
not going to get the same sort of menu items
in the preparation that we've been able to pull together.

(26:19):
We're going to start it out with camel meatballs, yack, lollipops,
coyote and binadas and python, let us wraps and those
the appetizers.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Okay, let me just clarify that hopefully, Jim, I just
want to clarify for the listeners. The first thing that cammel.
Those are camel meat balls, right, that's correct, Okay, camel meatballs.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Like ground up meat.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
Right, Yes, Yeah, that's correct, that's correct.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Okay, Okay, just making sure, just making sure. Okay. Then
where do we go from there?

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Well, from there, we actually take it up a couple
more notches. You know, I don't know how many folks
get the chances start out, you know, with python lettuce wraps.
That's a little step up from Cameron Mitchell. But then
because we have a walleye wore, the next course is
of course lake erie deep fried walileye with a tartar

(27:13):
sauce with a little kick to it. And then we
take it up a couple more notches. We're going to
have a roasted duck breast with red beans and dirty
rice with alligator chunks. We're going to have a beaver
chowder with roasted pheasants, and then we're going to have

(27:35):
a bobcat and and dewey and smoked pheasant sausage.

Speaker 6 (27:41):
That you know, how does the common person know exactly
what they're eating?

Speaker 3 (27:47):
Well, we make it super easy. Every course. You know,
we are going to introduce what it is that you're getting,
so it's not like what is this mystery meat? You
will know what is being served to you. And you
know that outer is pretty obvious, and it's pretty obvious
when the sausage is I mean, it looks like sausage
but instead of it being Bob Evans Finest, and we

(28:08):
think Bob Evans Finest is pretty good. But you know,
Bob Evans hasn't had bobcat and and Dewey sausage on
the menu lately.

Speaker 5 (28:16):
What about find a Hump in your Balls? You know
that's the camelot.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
What about Rocky Mountain oysters?

Speaker 3 (28:25):
Rocky Mountain oysters are not on this year, but not
this year. Now we're gonna kick it up from there.
Then we're gonna, of course have your roasted duct breasts, uh.
And then we're gonna wrap up the last protein course
with a smoked venison strip steak. And if you haven't

(28:46):
had enough yet, then everybody, of course has to have dessert.
And everything is better with bacon, So we're having peanut
butter and bacon.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Blondies have chocolate mouse.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
That's actually pretty good, Jim, I mean really, I mean
we sit here and we chuckle about the menu. But
in the past years when you've had i mean unique
items on it, we've of course had the opportunity to
tryumph and you would be surprised at how really I mean,
the chef does just a phenomenal job in the preparation
of it. But a lot of this is really really,

(29:23):
really good, good to eat.

Speaker 5 (29:26):
There's a lot of guns in here. Before you look
at me and tell me it tastes like chicken.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
I wanted to tell you, no, it does not taste
like chicken. This is the kind of well, it's not
only the type of protein, but it's the type of
preparation that you're going to come back and say, goodness,
this is this is Cameron Mitchell type level. This is
the refectories, preparation, everything from the spices and the seasoning

(29:56):
and the other thing that people probably just can't the
arms around is the majority of this doesn't taste what
people might refer to as gaming. It just doesn't. It
tastes like nice, healthy, lean protein. And actually that's true
with a lot of game because there's not a lot
of fat in those species. Most of it is going

(30:19):
to be that healthy protein that absorbs the flavor of
the spices and the preparation you put around it.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Jack, I'm telling you, Python, when's the last time you
had Python?

Speaker 5 (30:29):
Joe? And you could get this kind of stuff all
over the place. Here's what I'm wondering, in all sincerity,
where do you find people that are proficient in preparing
Jack and Python? Wait, that's not something you can walk
around Central Ohio and find. For the most part.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
Now you are onto something there. Columbus for probably, oh golly,
fifteen years, has been blessed with chefs that either grew
up in the country or Grandma brought a game to
the table, and that's the household they grew up in,
and it's the type of cuisine that parkins back to

(31:07):
their childhood and they can't wait when they have a
client who says, here's what we were thinking we put
on the menu, and they spend months pulling together recipes
and preparations because this is their chance to be the
artist in the studio. And our chef at the Athletic Club,
Matt is that guy. He grew up in a family

(31:27):
where while game on the dinner table was common, and
as a result, you know, if you're a professionally trained chef,
that's not something that most of your clientele is going
to ask for. And he can't wait for our dinner
every year to put together a menu like this.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
It's really really neat, JC. What do you think.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
I just think this is like a once in a
lifetime opportunity for folks, because you said you did have
some tickets that were left over for this dinner, and
I just think that, Hey, this has got to be great.
I'd always want wanted to taste some Sciota harvested alligator,
so I would. We'll see if that was on the menu.

(32:08):
But it just looked fabulous. He shot me the menu,
and I'm just so happy that this is an opportunity
and you did and again you did say you had
some tickets left. Is that correct?

Speaker 3 (32:19):
We do? Now this is not you know, your bargain
basement event. Well, no it is not. He The preparation
is not cheap, and the protein is not cheap either,
but we can assure you you will have a great experience.
The fair for this meal one hundred and fifty bucks
a person. That's pretty fair. It is not bad. And

(32:41):
at the end of the night when we make a
little money off the raffles. And I will also add,
not only is it a great dining evening and a
great experience, but it turns out LAPD is providing us
with some really, really nice firearms for the night. And
in addition to the firearms, we've also kind of got

(33:04):
a unique opportunity to shoot with a local celebrity as
one of the opportunities to bid on.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
Can is that with me? Jim is that, Oh it's
not maybe shooting with Chuck Douglas. Can I say what
that one is? Are we keeping that under rapt or?
Can I? I can go ahead? You go for it,
all right? So in addition to some of the the
we'll be there and they'll be helping with the raffle,
raffling things off like a Henry Golden Boy, a law

(33:33):
enforcement tribute, a moss Broke five hundred, a barretta a
four hundred. We're talking a couple of thousand dollars gun. Here, guys,
a Bretta silver Pigeon. That's a three thousand dollars gun.
All of this, there's a couple other experiences that they're
raffling off to and then one of the experiences, one
of them is an hour and a half shoot with

(33:54):
Cardile Jones. You get to come here, you get to
shoot with him for an hour and a half, maybe
do a little you know, competition with him, and then
you walk away with a couple of tickets to a
high state game pointball.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
He always shows up when there's food. That's the thing.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
I have to buy him food. Yes, figure that, Yes,
we're trying to get him to show up at the game. Dinner,
but I had to. I couldn't tell him the entire menu.

Speaker 5 (34:17):
Yes, you don't want to tell him shot a pistol
with him, and you have to bring a shotgun.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
You can bring all of the above, but no, it's
in all honesty. It's a great event for a wonderful
calls and a beautiful venue. And it truly is, Jim,
I mean, as much as we joke about it and laugh,
it is a great, great place. How do people get tickets?

Speaker 3 (34:36):
The best way to get tickets is to email or call.
The email address should be pretty easier to remember. Buckeye,
Rod and gun all one word, and it's a m D.
Not Thatani ampersand so Buckeye Roden Gunn at gmail dot com.
We'll be happy to set you up with tickets. And
if you say I can't remember that, what was the

(34:57):
phone number? Six one four three four eight sixty nine
twenty nine, we will get you through. The tickets will
outline for you the raffle opportunities, the things you'll be
able to buy, and I can assure you you will
not get a meal like this anywhere else.

Speaker 5 (35:14):
Yeah, buggane, have you dropped that on a standard stake
at a decent restaurant, right.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
Yeah, absolutely, four course, four course dinner. Well again once
in a lifetime. And just like Chuck said, the last
time I went out, it was over you know, fifty bucks,
and I had something that was forgettable as a dinner.
So this is this is really great. I hope you
sell all these tickets out quickly. So yeah, it sounds fabulous.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Great talking to you, Jim, and we are excited and
looking forward to March fourteenth, Friday, doors opening at five
o'clock to be down there with you at the Clumbus
Athletic Club. So thanks again and we'll catch up to.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
You here soon, see you on the fourteenth.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
All right, sounds great. Guys, that jump to a break
while we ponder that menu we're on talking about catching
a live from the studios of l Epit Firearms and Range.
We'll be back after the break. Chuck, you know, you
go about your days and sometimes you have disappointments.

Speaker 5 (36:11):
Sometimes people people who.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
Who who are that you work with, care about there
they disappoint you. And here on the break, I offered
to bring Ella a doggie bag from this wonderful dinner
we'll gonna be going, didn't I offer? That, and what
did she say.

Speaker 5 (36:27):
I haven't listened to a word you said today, Eric,
have not heard one word that you've said today. And
I could see the snarl on her voice as she
said it. It was a mean thing.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
Ella. That's fine. I'm going to choose for you out
of the the menu that we just talked about, and
I will bring you a doggie bag back from that,
and you're just gonna have to.

Speaker 5 (36:48):
Bring the camel ball to me make make break the
camel balls. That's what she.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Wants, Okay, the camel balls.

Speaker 5 (36:55):
Yeah, meat poles me pose.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Okay, yeah, that's part. That's the appetizer, and then we
get into the python wraps in the course of the
yak and the bobcat soup. Great.

Speaker 5 (37:06):
You know, Eric, I haven't heard a word you've said
all hour, which means this was your chance to sneak
in all those f bombs that you always want to use.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Well we did, we did.

Speaker 5 (37:17):
How money do I have to go edit out?

Speaker 1 (37:19):
I was surprised how many we got in and then
Chuck I'm looking at Chuck here, I'm like, Chuck, f
that and he's like, oh yeah, how about that? Today?

Speaker 5 (37:27):
Paul, Paul didn't have the donut holes. You should have
heard what came out of his mouth.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Wow, all right one time. All right, here we go, guys,
Welcome back to on Target. And in this final little segment,
and I chuck. I hate to be I hate to
be chuck like here in all my high horses.

Speaker 5 (37:44):
You see, I take offense to that you hate to
be chuck like?

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Well, I mean like you know, well, actually I'm proud
to be chuck like. I'm passionate about this next thing.
And this next thing we've been talking about for a
while and it's something that keeps cropping up and it's
and it's really kind of uh, kind of making this
matter around here. So we talk about firearm traces as
anytimes a firearm that we sold here ends up in
police custody can be for a number of reasons. ATF

(38:09):
has their issues with how they look at that. And unfortunately,
anytime these traces come down, and there's certain parameters with it,
if the trace comes down and it was sold within
the last three years, we get dinged on it, even
if it wasn't turned up in a crime. So, for instance,
my suggestion or my example I always use, I go
to a automobile accident, the driver as a CHL holder,

(38:33):
he's getting transported, we take his gun for safe keeping
so it doesn't go down with the tow truck or
go to the hospital, and then he or she comes
back and gets it later, the ATF wants that gun traced,
and then if that if that person had purchased it
within the last three years, we get a demerit for that. Okay,
makes no sense.

Speaker 5 (38:52):
You have to do a trace just if you're holding
it because of an auto accident or.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Something that you don't have to. But the ATF has
encouraged all these agencies to do that. So the number
of traces that we are getting now is through the
roof now admittedly, so you do get that occasional one
that you know some guide this have been stupid and
it's a valid trace, But by and large, with our
client tele we do not have crime guns, as ATF

(39:17):
likes to call it. What we're seeing, though, is an
enormous amount of firearms being traced because they've been stolen
from cars. We get dinged for that, We get put
on a remedial program, and we have to answer to
the ATF on why our customers left their gun in
their car and got stolen. How does that make sense?
It's stupid, it is, but it happens. That's how it

(39:39):
goes down. So what I'm saying is, as lawful, legal, safe,
responsible gun owners, we got to lock these darn things up.
We got and for a couple reasons. One, you don't
want the firearms on the street. Guess who gets some chuck.

Speaker 5 (39:55):
I'm guessing a children's charity of some sort.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Yeah, pretty close. You got the children part of it, right.
It's them and thug Daddy who are breaking into these
cars and stealing them. And they're not stealing them to
go to the range and see how proficient they are.
They're stealing them to commit other crimes. They're ending up
on the streets, used against officers. Hence last week you
know the thug kid going down the street in the chase,

(40:18):
firing a gun out the window. They're using it against
your fellow citizen. We got to do better locking these
things up, or else they're gon We're gonna be told
on what we have to do. Hence laws on mandating stuff, lot,
whatever the case may be. We got to get serious
on securing these things, and they're not in our possession.
What's odd is how much it's changed. I mean, you're
running all these checks for seemingly no reason. Now, ten

(40:40):
years ago, I had a gun stolen, and I could
not If I would have engraved the information on my
forehead and walked into police headquarters, I couldn't get anybody
to take the info on the gun.

Speaker 5 (40:51):
I'm like, really, do you want a serial number or something? No,
that's not necessary. Really wow, really, Yeah, the world's changed
quite a bit, it is.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
I mean, eight hundred guns last year stolen from the
city of Columbus, just the city of Columbus. How many
suburbs we got you're talking you're probably talking twelve hundred,
I'm guessing stolen out of cars. I mean, it's sickening.
It's sickening because those are put on the street, and
it's sickening to us because a lot of those, if
they come back to us, we're getting you put on

(41:20):
these programs. I'm like, these aren't how could we have
helped that? You know? So that's it, They're anything JC.

Speaker 4 (41:28):
Oh, No, that's exactly right. Look, guns are so expensive,
and the replacement of these, unless you have really great insurance,
that probably may not even be a benefit. To you,
So spend the money. Get a safe, not a gun
cabinet made out of ten that you can jam open
with a screwdriver. Get a gun safe, keep them there.

(41:49):
Do not leave your guns in the car. Just assume
it's going to be stolen. I mean, take it with you,
lock it up, and you just have to do that
safe out there everywhere now and that you have to
be a responsible gun owner or else. These are the
kind of things that reflect badly on all of the
gun owners that are actually following all the safety rules

(42:12):
locking up their firearms. But this is what gives them
to the anti gunners, going, We're gonna take everything away
because of a few bone heads that don't follow common sense.
So put them in your car, take them in brilliant card.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
JC, you got time for a couple one liners? You
got any we have.

Speaker 4 (42:32):
I think we're going to delve into it a little
bit more in next week or so. We talked about
it pretty briefly, but just to let you know, folks,
there are a lot of ars out there. We'll get
into the details. But a recent report came out and
just from nineteen ninety to twenty two, they actually have
officially declared that there's over almost thirty one million ars. Also,

(42:58):
the aks are thrown in their to in circulation in
the United States, so these are not rare. These are great.
And we're going to get into the details of that.
That's coming up. Some bad stuff out there. The bad
stuff is some of these states just are not relenting.
Colorado has a sweeping semi auto ban on the way
they said, a smooth sailing. The rough spots are over

(43:20):
for it. It's going to go into effect and they're
going to ban the manufacturer and sale of semi automatic rifles, shotguns,
and pistols that take detachable magazines. And they're going to
make it even harder. They said, Okay, you can still
get one, but when you look at the hoops of it,
no one's going to do it. But they're doing that.

(43:41):
Let's say Nevada had introduced legislation now to ban the
sale of any and possession of any firearm for someone
that is under twenty one years of age. So possession,
I mean, you can't take your grandson out to teach
them to share.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
She holds it.

Speaker 4 (44:01):
Technically that's possession of the governor is against this legislation.
Matter of fact, she came to the shot show, the
governor of Joe. I'm trying to figure of his last name,
but he came to the shot show and said, look,
you know, this kind of stuff has to stop. And
he's vetoed bills like this before, but they're still pushing.
And a bill was introduced in Congress, the US Congress

(44:24):
to also limit the purchase of just said rifles and
shotguns because pistols are already covered under the national law,
but where no one can purchase them that they have
to be over twenty one. And that bill has also
been introduced. So the forces against this are still out there.
It's what is happening with these anti gun states.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
So hopefully JC, with the funding being pulled on some
of this stuff and with the ATF change of General counsel,
hopefully we start to see some positive changes. Guys, thanks
for spending the hour with us.

Speaker 5 (45:02):
This is all going to come down to defining arms,
mark my words.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Yep, guys, check out the Buckeye ridden game six one, four, three, four, eight,
six nine two nine. Come check them out at the dinner.
Thanks for spending the time with us. Next week definitely
worthwhile being here. We are gonna have Glock Days. We
got food giveaways, sale prices, Come shoot glock, check it out,
and we will be here broadcasting live from the studios.

(45:28):
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