Christmas Shopping at River's Edge Cutlery

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Jc JC. Pinch me, pinch me, Are we actually live today?
Because last week we were alive but not live, well
kind of live. Well, some of it was pre live,
but then there was some that we did without an
audience that we were live. They they weren't, well, you know,
well have witnesses. That is true, live, aren't we guys?

Speaker 2 (00:23):
It's true?

Speaker 3 (00:23):
All right?

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Good?

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Today is December sixth, and we just dropped another sale
that honestly, I'm not sure if we thought this thing
through because it affects thirty five hundred items in our
Thirty five hundred items in our store started to be
on sale last night for twenty five percent off. That's
all magazines, all magazines in the store, twenty five percent off.

(00:47):
We got news and much much more. All up next
on on Target. Good afternoon. From on Target, we're broadcasting
live from the studios of LAPD Firearms Ranging Training Facility
located at Triple nine. That's nine nine nine Bethel Road.
I'm your host, Eric along with JC JC there here.
I'm like a giddy kid. I mean, it's been a

(01:08):
couple of weeks and yeah, it just seems like it's
been two months.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
I've missed these guys too.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
I really we have most of the couple star yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Well I won't mention their names, but yeah, so, but
it's so good good to be back live live.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
It is sometimes you know, even if we tape the
show the night before, you don't know what's going to
transpire that night, you know that that could be relevant.
So sometimes I.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Did that's embarrassing to talk about Thanksgiving when you're doing it,
you know, before that. So we've got a tape show.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
So yeah, we're back. Well, guys, we are the owners
of LUPD Firearms Range and training facility in our active
in law enforcement, but for one hour on Saturdays, we
put together a group of firearms experts to discuss new
products in the market, training tips, and oftentimes political topics
surrounding this second Amendment. Our commitment, though, has always been
to bring you facts about in our industry and ultimately
help customers and listeners with safe, responsible ownership of firearms.

(02:05):
Joining me today in the live studio, you heard that voice,
It is j c JC. Did you see how many
guns went out the door here? Like we gave away
guns of this last week?

Speaker 2 (02:14):
It was crazy, It was really really impressive. I mean
I was I was pleased by support and in the
fact that we had some really good deals and we
still do you know what, so you know, we want
people to come in. But yeah, a lot of guns
went out. That's great, and.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
We're going to talk about that because there is still
there is still a couple of free guns sitting there.
And all it is is signing up for a membership
three point fifty, we give you a gun. But even
even probably more beneficial than that, are some of these
deals where you sign up for the membership and then
you spend a couple hundred dollars more and you walk
out with a clock or these other.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, we had some We figured out that the four
hundred dollars worth that you just by buying the membership
and a couple a couple of bucks and they take
about four hundred, So that was those are good deal.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Definitely good deals, and we're going to get back to
that here in a second. We like the shout out
to Ella, who we haven't talked to in a couple
of weeks, pushing the levers in the back. Are you
doing good? Ella? I got her off guard. Now are
you good?

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Good?

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Always good to?

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Is she live or did you tape that that's what
I want. Okay, all right, right, that's good.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yeah, I have a variety of buttons here I can
hit for her responses. We also have in the NRA's
in the house. They have a table set up like
they do on occasion here, and we're gonna talk a
little bit about that later on and some of the
work that they do, and specifically around one of their
publications where they always are publishing what they call The
Armed Citizen, and something that's definitely worth checking out if

(03:35):
you haven't done that already. This week, we're gonna get
you caught up on some news and some interesting ones
as well.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Oh a lot of Yeah, there's some good stuff out
there that you'll not here are national news because they
don't want anything positive, you know that comes out about
Trump doing anything good. But yeah, we got to talk
about this. People need to know about these things.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yeah. And then at twelve thirty, well actually before that,
we have a Gun of the week. Actually two of
them sitting here. They happened. They're really impressive. They happen
to be for sale. They're actually both of them are used,
so that means they're ten percent off right now. And
one if you've been in the market for anything close
to this, it's definitely going to be worth listening to.

(04:20):
So that's gonna be coming up here shortly. And that's
sponsored by a River's Edge. Speaking of River's Edge, our
good friends Mike Kent, one of the owners, is going
to be calling in at twelve thirty giving us an
update of what's going on over there, some of their sales.
I went through their flyer again last night. It's I
can't go to their store. It's just too I'm always
spending money there.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Well, they've got great stuff. That's really a good organization.
I mean, it's just the people know their their products
and the stuff.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
That you not necessarily would think of. I mean, if
you're thinking of them of just the knife people, it's
so much more than that. So we look forward to
catching up with him shortly. And what else. Yeah, as
I mentioned at the end, we're going to talk a
little bit about about firearm usage. How many times a
year it happens when the mere presence of a firearm

(05:09):
helps to de escalate a situation, and it is so underestimated.
But these these studies that have been gone on every
time comes back and it shows how many times a
year and a day. It happens, and it's crazy and
we need to talk about it more. And part of
the reason we're talking about it is because we're hoping

(05:30):
in a couple weeks to have one of the main
authors of one of the most recent studies. I was
hoping to join us, So we'll get to that as well.
But before that, let's see if you missed the show,
you can always catch the podcast. I set six ten
w TV in dot com. We're on iHeartRadio, iTunes, Spotify, Spreaker, YouTube,

(05:50):
wherever you get your podcasts. We're pretty much pretty much everywhere.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Pretty impressive.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
All we got to thank our sponsors though us law
Shield just saw them walking through the building here a
second and ago Jackson Egress Windows always great friends to
the show and to this store. Of course, our good
friends up with Black Wings spoke to them this week.
River's Edge Cutlery will heal from them shortly, and of
course LAPD Training Facility, all who make the show possible
each week. JC, I know you have some news, because

(06:17):
there's been a bunch of news out there. What do
you have.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
There's a lot, and as usual, we won't be able
to give all the time, this necessary, but here we go,
this is this is important. And I talked about the president,
how you'll never you know, hear this on national news.
What a great thing. But the Department of Justice this
week just reported the creation of a new Second Amendment
section within its Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice.

(06:41):
So of course it got a warm reception from a
gun enthusiasts and the gun control people are you know,
you're wasting your money, you don't do this, But in general,
this is a great thing. People like the National Rifle Association,
all the big the big gun folks, NUS, the National
Show Sports Foundation, et cetera, are just really excited about this.

(07:03):
So as the National Rights Association said, they said this simply,
they said, calling this a historic course correction of federal policy.
So this is and this is what the NSF said,
National Shooting Sports Foundation for the first time, the Civil
Rights Division is directed to treat the Second Amendment as
what it is, a civil right deserving act of protection,

(07:26):
not a second class right that must constantly give away
to regulatory experimentation. So this was first reported, by the way,
this concept not on the news stations that you would hear,
but Wroters last week reported it they was shared with them.
I guess ahead of time. It's already been discussed in Congress.

(07:48):
So they shared the information on Congress and they identified
this goal as investigating local laws or policy that limit
gun rights. That's the mission. So as you can imagine
who's against this. But the plans also suggest that the
new division would begin form operations actually just like last Thursday.

(08:09):
But they on the website. You haven't seen that on
their division organization page yet, but it will be coming.
So the Firearms Policy Coalition, which is a big group,
they called the new section quote a vital infrastructure piece
confronting governments that continue to defy the Supreme Court precedent
and block the exercise of our fundamental rights. This is

(08:32):
a great move by the Trump administration, they continued. They
said in a statement. Gun owners certainly have something to
be thankful for this year, now, this division. This is
one of the first acts that the president did. So
you know, back in February, I mean, you know, January
twenty first he was in office. That's hard to believe
with everything he's done, I mean, but then for a

(08:53):
year yet, But in February he issued the protecting Second
Amendments right executive order, and everyone's going, yeah, but then
what's happened. Well, he had a lot of other things,
like peace in the Middle East, things like that, But
among other things, this directed the Justice Department to conduct
and review existing policies perceived to be infringements on the

(09:15):
right to keep in bear arms. They also created a
Second Amendment Task Force back in April, under which the
Civil Rights Division will soon began targeting localities that have
restrictive gun laws. In March, I launched the first of
its kind pattern or practice investigation lawsuit against the Los
Angeles County Sheriff's Department over its slow walking of concealed

(09:38):
handgun licensed applications, and follow that up with lawsuits. So
the federal government is suing that sheriff's department. It's September.
The DOJ also intervened in separate challenges against the salt
weapons bands like they have in Illinois and New Jersey,
and wrote supporting documents to the Supreme Court. So anyway,
so the President said he did this. You're not knowing

(09:59):
about it unless you actually read in depth or listen
to our show.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
But this is what he's done. So far, you know what,
and I don't know all the particulars, but to me,
when I look about just being in our business the
last ten years or thirteen years, there has been so
many things that has come at us that we've talked
about on the show. You look at the credit card
companies messing with how we're labeled in that. You look

(10:23):
at our insurance companies, how many times we've been dropped
just because we're a gun store. You look at the Facebook,
the issues we've had there. You look at the regulations
that came down from all these different things. The banks,
I mean, the issues we've had personally with the banks.
And if this is going to be one repository where where,
Because every time these single things happened, we didn't have

(10:44):
any place to go. I would try to call the senators.
I would try to call people who I knew, but
there was no one thing, and it was always one offs.
You know that, you know the senator's officers, He's gonna
check into this, but there was no one place. If
this gives us the ability to say, hey, look guys,
this is what we're seeing in this one place, I
mean that is huge. I mean we're understating how big

(11:05):
this could be and.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
To give our president, you know, really the coups he
deserves overdoing us. He makes a promise and he keeps it.
You know. Yeah, that's instead of a dumcrats make promises
and then lie about him and use the money for
something else. But that's not our guy. So okay, there's
something else that he did. The Department of Education, which
I thought would probably gone by now, but under this
it's a good thing, has awarded a new multi year

(11:27):
grant to the University of Wyoming's Firearms Research Center to
create a class for schools in our United States on
the Second Amendment history. So on Monday this week, the
center announced that it's secured a nine hundred nine thousand
dollars grant from the Apartment of Education's American History and

(11:49):
Civics Education Program grants just for two years, but it's
for the development of a course on the Second Amendments origins,
legal interpretations, and civic implications. And they've got a law
professor who was going to be, you know, putting the
class together along with many many, many other people and
his the professor said, the doctrinal complexity of the Second

(12:11):
Amendment is too often obscured by divisive discourse. He said.
We seek to provide a much needed a political approach
an otherwise politically charged topic, emphasizing the legal and civic
origins of the right that keeping bare arms, connecting it
to the early principles of the nation's foundings, and examining
the evolving role through legal interpretation in American culture over time. Okay,

(12:35):
that's a long version, but the move could change how
school children in the United States learn about the Second Amendment.
Of course, it's going to have significant face, significant scrutiny
by the you know who guys. They said, it's polarizing,
some saying, oh, it's a wish to money. You could
spend this on something else, like their trips to the
Caribbean to you know. Anyway, they're so sick of this.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
But you know what, and it was kind of need
about this. I mean, you know, we always say, are
the children getting the education of the true history? You
know how it's been and you hear these horror stories,
how it's been twisted around, and so hearing how our
founding fathers wanted this to be and knowing the history

(13:18):
of it, how it evolved, is so important.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Do you remember that history book that was put a
couple of years ago, and the second Amendment is, oh,
it gives some people the right to have firearms to hunt.
That's what it's said in the official Textbook of on
explaining our stuff, you know, just briefly, if we teach
our children, you know correctly. And the person, by the way,
who's in charge of this is Ashley Levinski, who I

(13:43):
had the pleasure to meet in an OGCA. She was
the executive director and former curator of the Wyoming's Cody Firearms.
If you have anything to do about liking firearms, you
need to go there. The ticket's worth two days. It
takes two days to even go through that. So she's
said the project will honor the nation's two hundred and
fiftieth anniversary by allowing educators to engage with the complexity

(14:06):
and the nuance of the country's founding father documents, and
its approach gives the ability now to possess an intellectually
rigorous grasp of the Constitution, but also to discuss and
debate those with And the course is called they've already
named it's called Armed with Knowledge, a nonpartisan Second Amendment initials.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
That you know, you and I when we were talking
about this last night in the show prep and this
is a little bit off topic, but it is so
important that the younger generation knows the facts about history,
good and bad.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
And the older generation that I had not learned about
as trial.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
But one thing, and like I said, off topic a
little bit, but Glenn Beck announced this week that you
know that all this AI is just overwhelming if you
don't keep up with it. And you know, of course
the AI gets this knowledge from all the knowledge that's
out there, you know.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
In whoever inputs the knowledge exactly.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Yeah, Well he has undertaken a program now where he
has apparently taken all these original documents from the Founding fathers,
so the Federalist paper, I mean, all these original documents
and loaded it into a AI engine I guess, which
allows you to interact with it as if you're interacting

(15:22):
with the Founding fathers. So coming up soon he's doing
an interview with George Washington and the responses are going
to be based through this AI functionality of all the
actual Founding fathers. I mean, it's going to be fascinating
to see.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
That it will be And the last thing on this
one was they're going to take They're going to make
these historical records all accessible while they're doing prints of
them and discussion, so you can do when you take
this course, you get to see the original documents of
what they were discussing prior to adopting actually even the

(16:01):
decoration of independence, I mean, the things that they talked
about back then. Why we need this stuff? And x
Elon Musker said, hey, there is no First Amendment without
the Second Amendment to back it up.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
And John, one of our stories. We'll get you later.
I know we got jump through a break. Is how
important this is versus our allies across the pond in
Britain right now who don't have this in place, and
they are starting to pay the price. So I'll leave
you with that little teaser. Let's jump to a break.
On the other side, we'll get to the gun of
the week, a few more news stories, and here surely

(16:30):
our good friend Mike Kent from River's Edge Cutlery. We're
on target broadcasting life from the studios of LAPD Farms Arrange.
We'll be back after the break. I had to throw
in holiday music, John, Yeah, well, of.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Course, yeah, I heard Santa plays this in this sleigh,
so yeah, yeah, so that's that's a good thing.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Welcome back to on Target. I'm your host, Eric, joined
today with my good friend jac and a live studio audience.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
There is.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Guys, We're going to mix it up here a bit
because I want to make sure we have time for
the gun of the weeks. But before we get to that,
two things. First of all, you'll notice I'm drinking here.
I got to give a shout out to your friends
at Coffee Coin in the Mochi shop which is attached
to our building here. Yeah, they set me up with
one of the coffees. I think it was just, you know,
wisely timed right before we come on air. But if
you're in the market for a great cup of coffee

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and a donut that is very unique, not like you
had before, they brought some over this week, John, I
had more than one, which is not I shouldn't, but
I did.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
They're unique, I mean they really are. It's not like
give me a doesn't glazes, I mean they do. It'll
be great stuff.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah yeah. And before we get to a couple of
these other news stories too, we talked about the specials
really this. I can't overestimate what. Like I said, I'm
still doubting whether we should have done this special or not.
But it is out there now. Now through the end
of December, we are doing twenty five percent off of
every magazine, all thirty five hundred magazines we haven't stocked.

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So you might be saying, oh, it's for some one
off gun that I never no, no, no, we're talking about Yeah,
I'm here your block nineteen bags, here's your Walter, PPK, Mags, Tourists,
Mags six, three, twenty.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Well everything everything we have, mags for everything we have.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
So yeah, so there is a twenty five percent off.
John puts a lot of them pretty much kissing cost.
So it is a good deal when you're looking at
a fifty dollars bag and you're getting it, you know,
in the thirties. Not bad so certainly for stocking stuff
for perfect thing. We still have a lot of things
on sale from Black Friday. Of course a lot of
them went last week, but there is a lot of things.

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Ten percent off used firearms, still, the glocks, some heck
of a deal on clocks, a bunch of guns in
the case, ten to fifteen percent off new prices, just
turning over some inventory. Uh so certainly worth while to
come in. When you do a gift card over one
hundred bucks, we give you a coupon for I think
twenty or twenty five dollars off your next purchase. I

(18:55):
mean all kinds of good stuff. So good yep, So
you don't want to miss that. So JC a couple
with their newsbits here that one liners.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yea one liners.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Well.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
The National Shooting Sports Foundation reported that although November gun
sales were down compared to last November, we're still over
a million. They did, one million, four hundred and eight
thousand firearms were sold in November, so keep out of guys.
That's good and the other real short one and this
was really good. And of course they don't see this

(19:24):
miss in the news. The Associated Press report of this
just this week. Mass shootings are down, so they ordered it.
A shooting last week and it must be horrible. At
a children's birthday party in California, probably an LA gang thing.
Was the seventeenth mass shooting this year, the lowest number
recorded since two thousand and six. The database is maintained

(19:46):
by the Associated Press USA Today in combination with Northeastern university,
but they said Fox manages the database. They were down,
you know, this year like the lowest, and since that time,
they were down twenty four percent from last year, and
last year was down twenty percent from the year before that.
So more guns are out there. I'm over a million

(20:06):
sold a month, and now mass shootings are down.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
And you know what's ironic, John, With more and more states,
what do we have to have the states with constitutional
carry over half? Yeah, I mean, yeah, twenty twenty six
a month. You know, the other side want you to
believe the more guns we throw out there are oh,
it's going to be chaos on the streets, because yeah,
it's just telling me.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Just so the Democrats is power, power.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Power.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
You don't have complete power until you have a disarmed
society and you bring in all these people illegally and
go okay, cause you know everyone knows as soon as
they get if they get back in power again, to
be like, hey, let's just make them all citizens and
guess what we did for you, get free credit cards
for you, this for that, for this, for everything. So
vote for us, and that's just.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
What we had.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Power. Power.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
There's a very good customer of ours who comes in
all the time, and for work he got stationed or
had to go to San Francisco for about six months.
And big gun guy, and he says, it's he couldn't
believe the laws out there that were in place with firearm. No,
we talked about it.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Probably couldn't even buy AMO when he was out there.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
He couldn't. He couldn't. They went to the range. He
couldn't buy ammo because he wasn't a resident of the state.
The guy he was with had to show proof that
he owned a gun in that caliber, I think, in
order to buy AMMO in that caliber. And he says,
and it wasn't like it was a crime free area.
He said, you know that the city was still a mess.

(21:29):
He said he couldn't believe it. He could not believe
how restrictive it was out there.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
And there's our governor doesn't want to be president, I
believe Yeah. Yeah, one o, my Gudehart gun, let's ban
all this ban ban ban so uh, it's it's it
would be horrible. We'd see something just unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah. One more there, jac Or the British one, the
British one.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yeah, this one okay, Yeah, I'll try to rush through
a good couple. This is okay, this is an old one,
but it just came to light again. Actually On Musk
is a really big supporter of the Second Amendment. Matter
of fact, as I even alluded to this in the beginning,
and he stayed made a statement that the Second Amendment
is why we're able to even keep the First Amendment.
So we posted this actually the last year, and now

(22:14):
someone picked up on it again. But this was happened
in Great Britain. I've done stories on Great Britain before,
and how draconian this whole so United Kingdom. A British
citizen came to the United States for a vacation and visited,
and he went to Florida and he went to there
was a gun club there and it shows this picture.
He's holding a Mosburg shotgun, not even correctly east. You

(22:34):
could tell he wasn't used to it, but he tod,
hey take a picture of me. So he went back
and he posted it, you know, and knew they arrested him.
This is this is just so crazy. He was holding
a shotgun. So we returned to the UK. The police
arrested him, seized all of his computer devices in his phone,
and it turns out he is an IT specialist. He

(22:56):
lost weeks. It was weeks before they gave it back
to him because because he posted a picture of him
in the United States. When he first up by, he said, hey,
I can prove I was here. Here's the other pictures
of you know, I was out of the country. So
the first police said, oh, yeah, okay, we can understand that.
But a week later they come in search this place,
do all this kind of stuff because somebody saw it,
and they said they thought it was a danger, a

(23:17):
danger that he had posted this picture of him outside.
So fifty year old guy. So bottom line is that
they arrested him and jailed him and didn't even bother
questioning him until the day after he was in jail.
They took possession of all of his devices, a week's
worth of income he lost. Then they came back three
more times, you know, why did you do this? What

(23:40):
was this going on? And they also charged him with
stalking because one of the pictures in his photo he
was looking at somebody's house. He liked the architecture of
the doors and stuff, took a picture of the house
and said, oh, well, that's stocking. So they charged him
with all this stuff and then they of course there
was no charge. There's no nothing, no trial, no anything.
And what they're all the people are saying there, it's

(24:03):
becomes so horrible in England that they passed this act
in eighty six and it just has this really simple
name like the uhpet I'll find it here, but anyway,
it's uh, it's just the Order the English oh, the
Public Order Act of eighty six, which is so broad.
And they said that people said, look, these crimes aren't

(24:24):
being committed, but it's the punishment is the process, so
they can do all this stuff. You can imagine what
they would do in the United States with these band
on Oh we band on. Oh you've got one of those.
Well you know, we've got a magazine. Well yeah, anywow.
This is the thing that we're here and protected by amen,
the rights that we have.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Guys that sent them to a break. On the other side,
our good friend Mike Kent from River's Edge Cutlery is
going to join us on Target broadcasting live from the
studios of l EPD Firearms Arranged. We'll be back after
the break. Well, I back, don Target. I'm your hystoric.
Joined today in the LAPD studio. I'm surrounded by friends.
They got JC sitting beside me. We've got a whole
live studio. Yeah, look at him. Yeah, you know, you

(25:06):
know now I'm looking out there. You know, mister Bachman
is missing today when he's out shoving his driveway. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah, with his shovel, he said, for forty six years.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
That's about more than that. It was from from fifty seven,
oh fifty seven.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah, yeah, still has it, and it's worn away to
about nine inches on one end and three inches on
you just like he likes it.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
A nice taper to it. Guys. Our next guest is
someone we've had on him repeatedly. He's a good friend
of the show, good friend of the store. He's just
an all around good friend. And him and his brother
owned River's Edge Cutlery, which is just I can't say enough.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
You know.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
I always talk highly about it because I'm a little
bit jealous of how beautiful his place is. So we
thought he would have him back on here talk about
some of their holiday sales and see what's going on.
How are you doing, mister Mike Kent.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Thank you so much for having me. Really appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Absolutely always good to talk to you. How you guys
doing over there, Hillard doing well.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
Everything's going well on the holidays here, so we're a
little busier than normal, which is always nice. And yeah,
just trying to keep stuff in stock and get things
out there.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Great. Well, I want to have you back on because
I get your your your flyer every week and every
week honestly, there's I'm gonna be up front. Some weeks
I just delete it without reading it because I know
when I open it, I'm gonna be like, Okay, I
got a program half hour, well yeah, or I'll go
down some rabbit hole of some knife I've never heard
of that looks super cool. And so yeah, there's always

(26:34):
something it It's it's like when you get you used
to get excited to get in the you know, the
gun ads on Sundays and stuff. But so anything new
and exciting going on.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
Yeah, there's always do stuff. And that's what's great about
the industry. There's tons of new stuff always coming out,
and you have to the knife manufacturer. You have to
be with the latest and greatest, the best steals, the
best handles, the best everything that they could think of.
So because you can only push envelope so far with knives,
but they keep on doing it. The manufacturers are just
you know, they're brilliant. They just come up with you know,
it's a fixed blade knife. It's a piece of steel

(27:04):
and a couple of handles, and they just keep on
coming out with ways to innovate it. And it's just
pretty impressive, I think. And the steels are always getting
better and better every year. So yeah, I mean there's
tons of new stuff always and we're trying to keep
up with the latest and greatest.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Well, let me throw out a couple of things just
from your last couple of ays, because I'm kind of
curious myself, and you give me a couple of lines
on it and tell me about it and stuff. Automatic
knives now perfectly legal to own right near Ohio.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
And do you sell a lot of those? Is there
a lot of interest in those?

Speaker 3 (27:38):
There's a lot of interest. Every day we're selling a
bunch of them. A lot of times people want the
out the fronts, which are pretty interesting. It's a dual
action where you push a button up and it comes
out and you pull it back and it shoots right
back into the handle. So pretty innovative, pretty neat, and
we sell a lot of those.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
So you know, my apprehension has always been and admittedly
so you know, my early automatic knives probably came from
they were probably chineseym okay, so sure, but they had
a tendency to open up in my pocket. The good
ones don't do that, correct.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
They I mean, I guess there's a chance of anything happening,
but yeah, they don't. They really for a lot of
time and effort into how the buttons are manufactured, where
they are, if they're in set, if there's a safety
on them. But very rarely do we hear if someone
said that it opened in their pocket and they got
cut or something like that. It's very rare.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
I need to look at those again because I did.
I always enjoy those and stuff, but I just never
felt comfortable with them. I never felt about the sturdiness.
So that's what really bothered me, because that.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Mechanism goes in and out, and I always worry about what's
really locking that blade in place. But I imagine, like
everything else, like he says, probably innovations on there that
have you know, kind of overcome a lot of the.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Right Mike talk for a second about rescue knives and
some of the rescue tools you have.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
Yeah, there's everything from just a simple it's in a
little almost like a plastic case, but it's got a
glass breaker, seatbelt cutter, and it's very compact. We you
could just put in your center console or something you
could even you know, latch it onto to something in
your car. There's all sorts of stuff that basically built
into knives as well, especially for you guys out on

(29:17):
the in the force and stuff like that. If you
need something to cut a seatbelt, to punch the glasses
that they're built into these knives these days, and it's
they really helped, They really worked. So there's everything from
the average person in their car to law enforcement and
first responders to keep something on them and.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Make tell me, remind me what I bought. It wasn't
necessarily a nice but it was the like the utility
scissors that food up.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
Yeah, yep, absolutely, let's leather them in and they make
a really really nice set of their safety shears. But
they've got so many. They even have something on there
where if someone's hand is crushed and there it's swelled up,
it'll cut right through a ring to get the ring
off of them, and they fold up and they're nice
and compact and they'll fit right in a sheath. You
could put them in a bag. They're they're pretty incredible

(30:03):
and they range from like seventy bucks up to one hundred,
just depending on what features you put on them.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
And one of the things they say they'll do is
cut through a penny obviously, so if you're kind of
get the ring. And we may or may not have
tried that out here, I'm just saying that I might.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Hey, Mike, and these are these are great deals because
these what you're talking about are not really expensive to
carry you in your car. I mean, they are really reasonable.
And there the stocking stuff for someone you love you
never know, and you're getting an accident and you can't
get out of the car. I happen to be involved.
I came upon an accident that happened over here in

(30:38):
Polaris early in the morning, and we couldn't get the
guy out because everything was crunched up and I did
not have that with me. I had to use my
regular boy scout knife, which took me a while to
saw through. But these aren't really expensive, are they? I
mean these little the little foldable ones.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
No, no, they're not. And then as far as rescue goes,
you know, there's things literally from nine ninety five. We
have them that are just great to keep in the car.
And you can get more expensive and more elaborate stuff,
but these little guys they fit on a key chain
or they help onto everything, and yeah, they're they're there
a way you needed it. Hopefully you don't need it,
but it's there.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
No, And that's a great stocking stuff. So if anyone's listening,
if you care about your loved one, hey, just get
one of these. I mean, it's like having a fire extinguisher.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
And the reason that I came in to buy it,
I mean unfortunately a lot of times we don't think
about these things until you have an occasion to say, man,
I should have had one, And I had one an occasion.
I was on duty and a lady she ran over
a burlap bag and the burlap got wrapped around the
axe or the different differential with the car underneath. So

(31:46):
middle Winner, I was on my back with my pocket
knife trying to cut this burlap bag away, and somebody
came along with like this leatherman and just snipped their snipsip,
and I'm like, okay, I need one of those.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, they're handy.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
So let's talk kitchen knives. That's something that we don't
talk about often, but your supply and a variety of
kitchen knives is awesome.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
Yeah. Everything there's you know, German ones are very popular,
Japanese style is very popular. There's some American made and
all different styles, you know, from little two inch blades
up to you know, ten twelve inch blades, slicing knives,
everything you can think of. Then we also get into
the cutting boards. We have some unique actually locally made
hardwood cutting boards. We've got just all sorts of cool

(32:33):
stuff for the kitchen.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Cool cool.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
It's something too I saw and I guess I didn't
realize and I don't know how much of a business
you do in this, but talk about your pre owned knives.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
So that over the past probably twenty four months or so,
has really grown. We used to have one case where
people they a lot of people like you and know,
collect stuff, and a lot of guys they buy these
knives and a year later, like I haven't looked at
this in a year, and they sell and the trade
them in or they want to sell it on themselves.
We do a consignment program, so we end up now

(33:05):
we have three cases full of pre owned knives, and
it's one of the most popular things in the storage.
It's because every week people come in and they just
go to those cases because just really never know what
you're going to get. There's stuff that's, you know, one
hundred year old knife to a brand new modern knife.
So it's really neat and it's changing daily. So yeah,
it's we like it here, we'll continue with it.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
And you know something too, when I look at your website,
I mean you certainly have some of these higher end knives,
whether it be fixed blade or the forty knives that
you can you can quickly get up in the hundreds
of dollars. But also on his site, I don't know
if you've been out there recently, John, on their site
they have hey Nice for under fifty dollars, Hey Nice
for under one hundred dollars. So if you're looking for
a gift, it is super easy to go out there

(33:48):
and say, okay, oh this is my price range. Let
me see what you got in that.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Yeah, that's uh, those are real treasures. I mean, I
have some good knives, and they're so good I don't
carry on, Ius, why don't I have this? So I
bet the cheap versions of them and figure out, hey,
they could be a throwaway. But really, I mean twenty
five dollars knife anymore. Some of the brain steels are
better than the custom knives were like twenty years ago.
I mean right, yep, the steels are really improved.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
But you do get what you pay for. Mike, what
what knife did you sell me that I still carry
in my pocket here?

Speaker 3 (34:19):
Yeah, dp's American made, Yeah, DPX yep. And then it's
it's just a good all around knife. It's good steal
in it, and it's it's been possible. They still make
them today, not the exact one, but the company still exists.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Oh yeah, the thickness of that.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
Okay, I always is my daily that's my daily knife
carrying stuff. Mike kind of wrapping it up a little bit.
But I wanted to touch on Sarah coding. Are you
guys still doing that over there?

Speaker 3 (34:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (34:44):
We do.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
We just did an AR for somebody here just recently,
so yes, we still do that over.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Here, and that and that is something we probably understate.
The importance of going to somebody who knows what they're
doing in that. I mean, there's a lot of people
who Sarah Coat who probably don't know what they're doing.
But you guys are the professionals at it. You have
the equipment and the finished products are awesome.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
Yeah, we've been doing it for probably about ten years now.
We've got a professional oven for the spray booth. Everything
we do is by the book and it's fun because
some people come up with some wild ideas and sometimes
it's a little like, Okay, yeah, we want to try it.
We've never done that before, and just with the colors,
the way they want different splatter designs, they want different fading,

(35:29):
they want different patterns on there, and to get very intricate.
But typically we'll try it and if it comes out great,
then hey, that's really cool. So yeah, we're all for that.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Cool.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
We're talking to Mike Kent River's Edge Cutlery. They're in
Hilliard in the old Bobby Ray Hall building, right a
couple of doors down from Cyde of the Valley if
you've ever been there, Mike. One of the last things
and this is my this is my stated weakness. I
guess when I come to your place, flashlights, bags and stuff.
I mean, you guys have a great selection of all

(36:00):
that we do.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
We do. We just got in for the well we
had these this one brand in a long time ago.
We just got them in again because we all liked them,
we talked about them. They didn't have a US distributor
for a while. Now they do, and they're just really
neat little they go on your keychain, they go in
your pocket, little flash flights. And yeah, we have bags,
different bags from America made to overseas made, and the

(36:23):
different price points in different. Some of them are tactical looking,
some are street looking. But yeah, we do have a
pretty good selection of bags as well.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Is that flashlight that Roxy von?

Speaker 2 (36:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (36:36):
Yeah, yeah, you know what. Those are amazing there. They
can be extremely small. We gave them away for Christmas
gifts one year, John.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
I have one.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Yeah, Ok, and they are bright. I mean they are
really bright for what they are.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Yeah, we like them here, like we all carry them
on our key chains. But yeah, yeah, just neat stuff.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Cool.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
Well, Mike, I won't keep you any longer. Thank thank
you so much for calling in. We hope you guys
have a great holiday season. Stop by and come visit
us and we'll do the same here soon.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
That would be great. Thanks so much for having me
on again. I appreciate you guys.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Right, guys, that Mike candover Rivers's Calory, him and his
brother and a bunch of staff run there. That place
just beautiful.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
I am going to own one of them, I really, Yeah.
I know.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
I bought that when they had the little store front
up here.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
To drive so far. So I should have should have
got that's a great knife.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
And I'm not a super big knife connoisseur. I mean,
I have him for work, I have him on duty,
you have him here, But I love this one. Always
have a blade is well, and so it does. I
meant it's a very very short, but it has a
thing on it, so it's.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
A pocket yeah, so you can pull it out of
my name for that and but yeah, you can pull
it out of your pocket and it pops open. It
looks like it's a bottle opener, but no, it's a
seam catcher and you just pull it out. But yeah,
in Michigan, you can't carry I don't like that's got
has to be less than like a three inch blade
or else. It's a felony you're carrying against the old
weapon or something, so I'm looking.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
For another reason that Michi. Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
I agree. Guys.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
Let's ten to a break. On the other side, we're
going to talk about Guns of the week, maybe get
into a little bit of the NRA Armed Citizens. We're
much much more. We'll talk about broadcasting live from the
studios of LAPD Farms arranged. We'll be back after the break,
you know, JC, I'm starting to get in the Christmas spirit.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
Yeah, I kind of am little, you know, And I
agree with you that that really gets you kind of excited. Blies.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
I'm starting to feel I feel halfway organized, halfway organized,
and yeah, not bad. Tons of sales still going on here.
Kind of happy about that. It's always fun to talk
to customers who are coming in in the holiday spirit.
But speaking of the holiday spirit, Gun of the Week
just happens to be sponsored by River's Edge this week.
Two guns up here, JC. I'm gonna kick the first
one to you because it is it is gorgeous. What

(38:52):
is that first?

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Wow? I'll tell you it's appropriate that it's sponsored by
River's Edge. I ask, gun is a cut above the
rest I mean, oh, this is Ruger's. This is there
actually their precision twenty four. So Ruger makes a few
rifles that are absolutely precision precision and this is a
bold action. Honestly, I think it weighs about ten pounds.

(39:17):
It is got a bull barrel of the compensator on
it is amazing. It's got a huge scope. I think
that was it a twenty power but oh my goodness,
this is a warn scope. This is used, but not
very much. I can tell you that a really impressive
stock that's adjustable every which way from cant and yaw height. Yeah,

(39:42):
and it's just and it's gotten more more picatinny rails
on it and it's it is amazing. The pistol grip.
So what it is is a precision long range rifle
in six point five creed More, which is an exceptional
long range cartridge. It comes with it looks like a

(40:03):
Harris bipod.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
It's it's a very very impressive gun. I'd pick it up.
I don't know if I'm strong enough to reach it
at this angle.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
I mean it's ten pound Facebook kick off emails, But honestly,
it's a very very impressive rifle and that is one
thick bowl for twenty four inch bowl barrel on there
is amazing.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
So it's a ruger. It's a I have to even
examine all of the dials on there. I think there's
like that's life. Yeah, so uh it's it's it's yeah, pretty.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Impress and in the thing too, JC, I mean it was.
It was decently priced. Yeah, it's ten percent offering. Now
two percent off of that, yeah, ten percent off it is.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Oh, that puts it down into the Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Whoever, whoever is looking in the market for six five and.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
In a precision long range, right, so yeah, that's not
a one hundred yard rifle that is, yeah, maybe a
thousand yard rifle. I mean it's it's impressive.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
Yeah, so that is certainly here. The other one, the
other one for Gun of the Week, and I was
just reminded that I might we might have did this
a couple of weeks ago, just we brushed over it.
But this one, this one is near and dear to
my heart. It is well, probably because it was mine.
The the PLR sixteen was the cl Tech. It was

(41:24):
a five five six pistol. So this is what this
came out almost you know before the whole ar pistol craze.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
That's when I bought one from you.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
Yeah, when did you buy it at the gun show?

Speaker 2 (41:37):
Or was that it was shortly after that? So was
like soon as it came out, I talked to you
about it, went oh, I have one, I went, oh yeah,
so yeah, you got kind of a relationship going there
with cl Tech at that time.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
And George Calgar is just an amazing inventor. U And anyway,
I have wait and what really did it? You though
I liked it before. It's the accuracy. Go research some
old articles, like from a respectable magazines, I mean like
guns magazines or guns and Ammo one of those two.
And then American Riflemen they tested their pistol with a
you know, it's got a nine point two inch barrel

(42:08):
on it, and they were getting one hundred yard groups
less than an inch out of this. I just couldn't
believe it. But two different magazines, one got thirteen sixteenth
of an inch. I cut the article out. I do
that when I have a gun and it has something
about it. And then the other was was was you
know close to that seven eighths of an inch group
and one hundred yards out of this pistol the sixteen.

(42:30):
So uh, it's it's an incredible And then of course
you've you have dressed it up with a with a
handguard with picktenny on there, and.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Uh a muzzle brake on the mule, which is it forward?
I think that's a Troy muzzle break. And then along
the way I had sbrt it, so I actually have
bought a different trigger package for it that's from Caltech
and it gives you the ability to put a stock
on it. Right now, it's in the pistol configuration, so
you could put an arm brace on it and be fine.

(42:58):
But that's a side for her. But it'd be easily
to SBR that again. Yeah, late weight, it is to
be long till you don't have to pay that right,
and it takes normal normal five five six two two
three max. Yeah, it is love mine.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
I you have mind settle. It does bark a little bit,
so yeah, I would not fire it without having hearing protection.
But yeah, it's a yeah five five six yours just
looks really really good.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
Well, I think we I mean just a couple of
the things along the way that we did to it.
And of course you put an optic on Do you
have an optic on yours?

Speaker 2 (43:33):
Just I know I put a knoptic on it and
a light, which I think are you know, lights are
just indispensable for inside the home. You know, cuts down
muscle flash, you know, blinds whatever you're shooting, Yeah, brightens
up the whole area. So lights are just if I
had to have a choice of one or the other,
I would definitely have a light. But I have both
on there, so I have a light in an optic.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
And uh, and you're just still in the pistol configuration.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
Yeah, it's in the pistol configuration, which is yeah, is
going to buy I's going to buy a hen and
grip from the front fort and you no, no, no,
And that makes it illegal. So you can't have any
kind of a vertical grip on it.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
John, I'm not here to put you on the spot
on air when dev listening and stuff, but I could
probably pull that trigger pack off has the stock to it.
Bet you well, then you could.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
SBRs okay, and I can have two of those, but
one less wife, and I think you all I will
I will keep the wife and uh, and forego that.
That's all.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
It's all part of the consideration. Sh I mean, so
no love the wife Gay. Thanks for spending the outworthors.
Come stop by check us out magazines to the end
of the year, twenty five percent off every magazine in stock.
We have a ton of magazines, all kinds of other
deals going on as well. Next week, John, I didn't
tell you this. Next week we have a huge guess
we have. It doesn't get much bigger than the big

(44:49):
guy during the holidays is calling in, trying to get
him to come in. I don't think he's going to
be able to come in. He's calling in though, So
that is on stock for next week. Guys, thanks for everything.
We look forward to seeing you here and let's be
careful out there.