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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Think of this.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
You're going about your business, just a normal day, when
suddenly you're thrust into being a witness to a crime.
It's play out right there in front of you. Do
you intervene or do you become a good witness? You
make your way to the phone, You dial nine to
one one, You give the dispatchers the description of what
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you're seeing. What you're seeing right there in front of
you in real time, the thugs having their way, The
police arrive, and you feel comfort and that you did
your part today to hold crime at bay. But it's
twenty twenty five and you live in a city that's
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not like it used to be a few short years
ago before the riots. Common sense, common sense just seems
less and less common and woke politicians, leaders, and social
justice attorneys are steering the ship.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Today.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
You'll hear about what's happening in Columbus, Ohio that just
might change your mind the next time you pick up
the phone and dial nine to one to one. An
unforgettable episode of On Target.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
It's up next. Good afternoon, Welcome on Talking.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
We're breadcasting live from the studios of LAPD Firearms Range
and Training Facility.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I'm Eric the host, and I'm.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Here with Ed whoa whoa, whoa whoa.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Nice you could make it, Edward.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
We did redo that introduction.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Eric, I'm your host and I'm here with Big Edsys
to my right, Big Ed, smaller and smaller every time
I see you, But I'm still gonna call you Big Ed.
All right, guys, I'm gonna get right to it today,
because we have so much to pack in. We are
the owners of LAPD Firearms Range and Training Facility and
are active in law enforcement. But for one hour on Saturdays,
we put together a group of firearm experts to discuss
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new products in the market, training tips, and oftentimes political
topics surrounding the Second Amendment.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Our commitment that has always been to bring.
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You facts about our industry and help listeners and customers
with safe responsors of firearms. Guys want to I think
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discounts too.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Ed.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
If you are happened to be looking for him. There
is no JC today, but I have a few quick stories.
Of course he had to call me and sent me
some stories today, So thanks to JC y we still
got a couple of stories. But at twelve fifteen, we're
gonna go right to FLP President Brian Steele. There's been
so much that happened this week in Columbus. You know,
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just when you think it's going to be a nice,
calm week, a couple of big things this week, actually
several big things this week right here in Columbus that
we're going to get to here shortly. But Brian's going
to join us at twelve fifteen. But at twelve thirty,
twelve thirty ed Frank Harris is gonna call him in
and you're gonna say, well, who is Frank Harris? Now,
I know it's been a while, it's been since twenty
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seventeen that he on the show with us before. And
Frank works for car Arms, and you might say car Jeez,
I've kind of heard of them, and they've been kind
of in and out. Well, car Arms now owns a
bunch of different priorly prior fire arms manufacturers, and so
their umbrella of companies really is very broad. It's not
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just car arms this car, it's Auto Ordinance, it's Magnum Research,
it's BFR.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
And many many more. So we're gonna invite him back
to the show.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
It's been a while, talk about some of the product
line which you need to be looking at and see
some of the new stuff that's coming down. So you're
not gonna want to miss that. That is at twelve thirty.
I also want to give a thank you again and Ed.
This is another another time where I'm out there using
your name and not in a good way to car,
Car and Gun clubber's here this week and where were
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you at?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
I didn't get notified.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Oh I told you, But I think I told you
to text me again the day before.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
What am I in your secretary now?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
But I thought you okay, I mean a friend who'd
have done that.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah, that is a valid point. But they were here.
It was a great event, and we have committed with them.
We need to do this every year. I think we've
missed a couple of years with them. But it's such
a great group. If you're not a part of that
and you're into you know, fine bourbon and cigars and cars,
it is a great group. I mean a good networking opportunities.
They go to different places each month and really good
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good guys. So if that's something that you think you
might want to be a part of, reach out to
us and we can put you in touch with those guys.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Got to think our.
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Sponsors US law Shield to see them in here today.
Jackson ee Gress Windows, Black Wings Shooting Center. I have
to mention a couple of things coming up with those guys.
On nine to twenty one. Derek de Brost is going
to have a seminar over there a Black Wing. He's
gonna be on our show a week or two before
or after that as well. Always good to see though
him in person. But ten nineteen Defensive Shotgun with Greg Gellafritz,
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that's a good class. I'm trying to figure out a
way to go there and make it to that class
and not do the show that day. But that's going
to be a good one.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
So if.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Maybe we'll have that opportunity, well there you go.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
I'll probably be working it.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
River's Edge Culleri have to oh, I know River's Edge
Cutlery on nine thirteen September thirteenth, actually right around the
corner they're gonna have their twenty second anniversary party. If
you haven't seen their place in Hilliard, it is gorgeous.
I'm jealous every time I walk in the door. I
buy something every time I walk in the door. But
it's really really neat. Go over and support those guys
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on September thirteenth for their twenty second anniversary party, And
of course I always have to thank LPD Training Facility,
who is also a sponsor of this show. Joining me
today is Big ed sitting to my right.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Oh did you did you? Did you see my Big
interview this week on Cam Edwards Show.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Oh? You know, I think I was working.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
They play It's out there on YouTube. You can go
out there. Let's see here you all right? All right?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Well, if you missed it Cam Edwards Show, I had
an opportunity to jump on with him talk about the
state of the industry under the new administration. Always good
to talk to Cam on his Bearing Arms show. He
is going to be with us in a couple of
weeks because he has, you know, he's on the front
lines of National News, has released a second amendment. So
he's gonna jump on with us in a couple weeks.
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But it's always good to jump on with him. And
then I was on with Mark Blazer this week and
that leads into our first news story that I'm sure
you saw this d This is this is big. A
Franklin County judge ruled this week that Columbus cannot pass.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Their own gun laws.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Good which we knew. I mean, it's you know, it
makes you mad because it's always of our money.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
People's money.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Columbus, Cincinnati, and Cleveland continue to do this. This has
already gone up to the Ohio Supreme Court on two
separate occasions, and they said it is constitutional. Preemption is
what it's called, is constitutional, which says that these little
cities and suburbs can't make their own gun laws that
supersedes or pre empty Ohio Low. Can you imagine that
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patchwork of Okay, I'm in the city of Columbus, this
is banned. Okay, I'm in Westerville, but that's good. But
this is it's crazy. But these idiots continued to try
to do it, and including Zach Klein, who came out
and doubled down.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
We might have to, you know, appeal this.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Oh go ahead, waste some more money.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Why don't they go?
Speaker 2 (07:21):
And they and proposed stuff that is that would affect crime.
You know, one of the things that we said.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Say let's make an arrest and put them in jail.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Well that's one idea.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
But like I said on Blazer this week, if you're
that adamant that the thirty round magazine and this whole
thing started our twenty nine ers, and see some of
the people out there in the crowd who helped.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Us during those days.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
If they're so adamant that the thirty round magazine is
what's causing the crime, why not say, why not put
a provision that if you commit a crime in the
city of Columbus and you were caught with a thirty
round magazine there, that's going to be you know, an
additional charge or you know, on to that. But no,
they would rather go out there without facts, make a
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blanket statement that we need to ban them. And how
asinine to think with millions of them around, millions of them,
that they're going to take them off the street. They're
just I don't know ed if they're just not smart
or if it's intentional, I don't know what it is,
but it's a path that they continue to go down,
costing us money.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
It's not because they're smart. It's because they're just trying
to ban guns. It's got nothing to do with what
crime is going on in the city. Al they try
and link it to that and say it's because of
the crime.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
There's no stats to it, there's no status yet they
want yet yet, And that's an arguable thing. Does the
thirty round magazine? Is that contributing to the crime yet?
A glock switch, which we know contributes to the crime
time and time and time again. They put the flipping
guy on community control who ultimately goes out and shoes
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two officers, and they're saying, we don't know how to
to control this head.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
We don't know how to I mean, what a bunch.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Of idiots and talk to the people who know.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
No or or there's some underlying thing they're trying to
do band guns, whatever it is. Now, in good faith,
we reached out to Zach Clin's office and invite him
on the show. And we weren't doing this in some
facetious way where we're gonna, man, we're gonna get him
on here, and no, we want to have a civil discussion.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
It should be he's a public figure.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
And he said with no response.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
It's I mean, we should be able to sit here
and let him enlighten me, let him say where we
didn't publish it. But you know, thirty round magazines are
found at every crime scene in Columbus. Okay, then you know, Zach,
let's talk about that. But heck no, heck no, it doesn't.
It's not based on facts. Whenever you put these guys
in a corner, they fooled because their arguments hold zero water.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
So, guys, with all that, let's jump to a break
because on the other side, on the other side, we
are going to get to our good friend, Lieutenant Brian
Still for p Elive number nine, President, talk about what
happened in Columbus this week. We're ill talk about broadcasting
life from the studios of LAPD Firearms and arrange.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
We'll be back after the break. How appropriate for our
next guest.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Ed he's a heck of a dancer.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Car, No, not the dancing cars. Shake it up.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I mean, come on, Car's still a dancer. I've never
seen him dance.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Ask him.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Welcome back to on Target.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I'm your hysteric joined today in the l EPD studio.
I have big ed to my right and on the
phone with us now our good friend FOP President and Lieutenant.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Mister Bryan Steele.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
Hey doing Brian, Good, Good morning everybody, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Good morning. Hey.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Do you ever get a moment's of peace? I'll tell
you it's like it's never ending.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Yeah, but you know what this is. This is the
job as we signed up for, and you just keep grinding.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
It is it is. Well, hey, I want to tee up.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
The first thing I wanted to touch base with us
today and it has to do with with Takaya Young.
You know, she was, by her own admission, a career thief.
Actually that was her own words that described that she
described herself when she was caught red handed in twenty
twenty two all on CPD body cam. You can go
out there and watch the video on our Facebook page.
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But she was caught shoplifting and she said during that
that shoplifting was her job. Fast forward to twenty twenty
three and while working, she was seen on video stealing
bottles of liquor from a Kroger's and not just a
bottle of liquor, you know, a crime of opportunity and
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I'm going to take this and swipe it. She walks in,
takes her out of her purse a larger bag and
proceeds to put up to six bottles of liquor into
the bag and proceeds to walk out along with the
other thugs that she was with that day. Now, that
day when that happened, she walked out and somebody at
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Kroger's called nine to one one like you would expect
him to do. Another employee followed followed her out. Happened
to be Blendon Township officer was in the area. She
pointed him out, and unfortunately, what had happened after that
was Takaya chose to do something inadvertently, whether intentionally or not,
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try to run over an officer.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
It ultimately resulted in.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Her death, which is a tragedy from all standpoints. But
in this twenty twenty five City of Columbus world, there
is more to this story, and that part of that
story came out this week when social justice attorney Sean
Walton did this, Brian Briy, do you want to go
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what old mister Walton did?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
Yeah, So I won't.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
Even mention his name because I think he's a bottom
feeding attorney and he capitalizes on incidents like this. So
they're suing Kroger to happen on their property, all right,
They're sueing the police officer. I will give you that,
all right, sue the police. I understand it. Don't like it,
but I get it. But they are so low. They
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are suing the twenty two year old store employee who
flagged down police officers. So think about this. I shop
at Kroger's. This is an employee's job. An employee witnesses
a twenty year old woman witnesses a crime being committed
and does nothing more than say, officer, officer, they're stealing.
And now, according to these bottle fiendair attorneys, they are
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responsible and escalated what they call violence that led to
her death. Let's make this clear. The only reason, the
only person we could blame for the death of miss
Young is miss Young.
Speaker 6 (13:37):
And that's just the reality.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
It's unfathomable. I mean, and do you hear the press
conference from that social justice attorney this week where he said,
and and it drives me crazy that I know it
does you as well, where they come out and says
nobody deserves to die over a bottle of liquor. And
we could all sit around us say you're right, nobody
would die.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
She died.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
That is not why she died. She died because she chose.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
To move her car forward enough that it lifted the
officer off the ground. Now, if you want to sit
in debate tactics and everything else later, that that's a
whole nother story. But to then sue the Kroger employee
who larned because she escalated, I mean, what kind of
world are we living in? I mean you look at her, Brian,
You look at that, and we say, okay, you know,
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this should all get you know, thrown out eventually. But
at what cost to that twenty two year old employee.
I mean, she's going to have to defend herself now.
I mean, that's that's the burden that these attorneys put
on society.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Well, Brian said, the scum feeders.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Yeah, yeah, and I left. You're those You listen to
your show, Nobody wants to stay.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Understand.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
It just shows how how low these people are willing
to go to try to get a payday. And that's
all it is Groger to blend and they want to pay.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
You're right, I'm gonna I'm gonna say it. It's it's
race reversal. That's all it is.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Hey, it is it was playing on it is playing
on that certainly in this environment, Brian, let's switch gears
for a second, because that wasn't the only thing that
you were dealing with this week. CPD officer Damon Scales.
I don't know if you've had a chance to see
the video out there.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
It was for those who.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Haven't seen it, it was a off duty CPD officer
who you know, call me old school, who didn't act
the part, who didn't act like an officer in an
off duty capacity, and at one point, even on the video,
push attacked a fellow officer. Did you have an opportunity
to see that one, Brian?
Speaker 5 (15:47):
I did. I saw the viral video. I haven't seen
the road underdaptive video yet.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Well, I'm glad you admitted to that, Brian, because the
media Channel six especially kept saying, we haven't seen that
video yet, so we're not gonna be able to post
everybody else saw it.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Yeah, that's interesting. I believe the division did identify the
officer as an officer at first. I know the media
wanted me to identify him, but I don't know him.
I have no way to collaborate it. But what I
saw in that video was disturbing regardless, but even more
disturbing if it is an officer. And as you know, well,
we're not above the law. We're certainly expected by society
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to have a higher set of standards, and what I
saw in that video fell short of that expectation, way short.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
It didn't.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
I mean, is it is it just are we just
old now, Brian? Is it just are we working off
of how law enforcement used to be and now that's
becoming accepted. And I guess we got to give the
department a chance. I mean, they took as bad age
and gun, which is obviously a good first move, but
it just it just seems I don't know, I don't
want to say more acceptable, but it just doesn't seem
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as outrageous as it once would have been if that
happened ten years ago, or if he.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Was a wife.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
But there's certainly some changes. I think the overwhelming majority
of the men and women of central law enforcement, whether
you're in Perry Township, the sheriff's officers, Columbus Place, I
think the overwhelming are very professional on and off duty. Again,
this is an investigation the investigation will tell you more.
But remember this, I'm paid to advocate for officers, to
represent officers. I'm not paid, nor would I even if
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I was paid to defend officers who cross the line.
Speaker 6 (17:25):
So I'll always wait.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
For the investigation to finish. I want to know why
I went and aware of it. From what I saw,
it's very very hard impossible to defend actions like that
or language like that.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Well, and the other thing too, behind that we talked about.
We're talking Lieutenant Brian Stale FLP Lies number nine. The
other thing that's difficult too is how do you have
that out there and it's so apparent and it's so
evident of what went on. You know, of course you
have to wait till it all shakes out, but how
do you then expect the public to take serious the
next time a civilian pushes an officer. And the other
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thing for me personally that that really kind of hit
home in this It was was just not only his demeanor,
but but his language. I mean that the the way
that he spoke to the officers and to the others there.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
I'm going to be honest, I mean, for me personally,
he looked like a thug.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
He looked like a thug on this street, with his
with his demeanor, with his vernacular of that the language,
I mean, it's I was appalled that he would be
a fellow officer.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Honestly.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
Yeah, that those actions, that language, it was shocking to hear.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah, so, uh so, I assume you're hoping for a
little bit of a quieter week next week.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
Yeah, well, we'll see. We'll see. We've got a football game, right,
They're they're a team in this town.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
I hear it has a game, that is true. Are
you going to be down there at all, Brian?
Speaker 5 (18:52):
I will be down there for the tailgate. The FOP
has a tailgate and the honor off duty officer first responder.
Come on by the f people bellgate. We'll feed you
and send you on your way. And we need some
people to flip burgers, bighet. If you ever want to
put your burger flip into a task here, we'd love.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
To have you. I don't know if you can afford me.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
He'll pay you in Hamburgers.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
Oh okay, oh.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
Hamburgers.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I might have to look you up this week, lieutenant,
but I'll be down there working as usual. But you
know I can always slip away for a second, so
I might have to find out where that tailgate is
going to be.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Hey, if you can get me in and out of
everybody helicopter, I'll be more happy to come.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
Yeah, you know what, we'll work on that.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Wait, Brian, Well, thanks for calling. And one other thing too,
I want I want to mention. I mean, obviously Brian
is a good friend of ours and of the show,
but Brian, you know, hats off to you for always
supporting the men and women of law enforcement in our community.
Not just that though, but for always willing to come
and be a part of the discussion. I mean, there
is I would look back there. There's not one time
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that I hadn't said, hey, Brian, last minute, can you
come on that You've said no, And there's there's never
been a topic that you said, you know what, we
got to stay away from. You've always been willing to
have that discussion, and that is so important, and it's
so it's becoming less and less prevalent out there with
leaders and so forth. So I come in you for that,
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and I know we're friends and stuff, but it truly
does stand out and we appreciate that.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
Well, I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
That means a lot. Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Yeah, all right, have a good toto everything he just said, Brian,
I think I think you are an asset to Columbus
Police and actually with the FOP Lodge. I was so
impressed to see you get president there and what you've done.
Outstanding work, outstanding.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
It means a lot.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
All right, Brian, you have a red read a good
rest of your weekend, this Lieutenant Brian Stale, CPD so Edward. Uh,
it's just a lot to take in this week. I
mean a lot to take in with everything that went
on this last minute. Before you go to break, I
want to bring up one thing we just kind of
give a shout out. It's kind of a really kind
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of a crummy thing. But there's gonna be We're gonna
do a post out there on our Facebook page at
some point. But thoughts and prayers to a former employee
of ours, she worked with us, actually not just an employee,
a good friend of us, a good friend of the family.
Actually somebody I went to high school with her and
her family down in Mexico last week and had a horrible, horrible.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Event happened to him.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
We'll post some stuff out there on Facebook and stuff,
but just keep you Lori and the whole family and
their thoughts and prayers as they go through a difficult,
difficult time and stuff. So let's jump to a break. Guys,
on the other side, we're gonna get to car Arms.
Frank Harriss is gonna jump on and join us, talk
about some of the product lines and why you might
want to think about a new item from them. We're
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on talking about broadcasting live from the studios of LPD
Farms Arranged. We'll be back after the break. Welcome back
to on Target. I'm here, steric joined today in the
LPD studio. I got big to my ride, glad to
be here, just us too here and of course the
live studio audience.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Who are talking amongst them, they're not they don't even
know a show's going on. Ed, I can see that, guys.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Uh, we teed it up at the top of the hour.
But our next guest is someone who's actually been on
the show before.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
ED about eight years ago, which is amazing. I don't
know where time goes.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Yeah, oh yeah, I've been waiting for him to come
back on. We've been talking.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
I know I know it. Wealk today.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
It's a lucky day because he's back on our next
guest is he works for Actually it's he works for
car Arms, But many of you probably don't realize that
car now owns or is a part of a bigger
group that encompasses Magnum Research, Auto Ordinance BFR and a
bunch of other smaller companies. So, without further ado, we
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welcome Frank Harris back to the program.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
How are you doing, sir, Hello guys, good to be
back on time. I can't believe it's been eight years.
I don't know, what's a long time.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
I know, I don't know what's more surprising that you're
still around there or worst around here, but uh probably yes, yes,
well we're super excited about you being here today. You know,
you and I had an opportunity to catch up a
few months back at a trade show, and personally, what
caught my eyes. I was pleasantly surprised to see car
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Arms because we you know, in the day seven eight
years ago, we were selling a lot of car arms
in the market and not so much show so in
recent times. But you quickly reminded me that you know,
it's not just about car it's about Auto Ordinance and
Magnum Research and so much more. And so I thought,
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you know, a great time to bring you back on
talk a little bit about the product line.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
But I wanted to start.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Well, a matter of fact, let's why don't you tell
us a little bit about how the whole conglomeration has
come about.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
Okay, Well, now we call ourselves a Car Firearms Group,
and then under the Car Firearms Group there are three
distinct brands, car Arms, Auto Ordinance, and Magnum Research. Car
Arms is the consiltary small polymer pistols. That's how we
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got our start, that's what we're known for. And then
in nineteen ninety nine we purchased Auto Ordnance, which is
known for historical military replicas. Everything works. I call them
replicas because some of the items, like the Tommy gun
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has to have a longer barrel and it's semi auto.
But it's true to the design with all the markings
and the logos and the trade draft is true to
the original.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Design, right, and it's it's it's neat now that there's
so much more that you represent on the car arm
side of things, though, like I mentioned, you know, the
PM series of single stacked nines and three eighties. They
were they were a little bit ahead of their time.
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They were almost almost an heirloom piece. I mean they
were so and they still are finally made. And I
mean as a consumer, you could come in and pick
one of those up and know that you were holding
something different from everything else out there, that that looked
pretty much the same.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
Yes, the car PM nine, that's my all time favorite
car pistol and I have one as my carry gun,
and I love it. It's so easy to carry, so concealable,
and the trigger is wonderful. It's got very little felt
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recoils for a small gun, and it's just all around
a great a great gun.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Right, And that's how we used to sell.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
I mean, the felt recoil on the car lines were
always so much less than than the caliber. So when
you shot the PM nine, I mean people walked away
saying that felt like a three eighty. And you know,
some of the flip side of that was they were
a little bit harder to pull back on the slide.
But once you knew that, I mean, they were wonderful guns.
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And the triggers we we always described them as a
finely tuned revolver trigger. I mean, they were a little
bit longer than your traditional striker, but they broke nice,
they felt great, and I mean really everything about them.
I still carry a P three eighty from time to
time when i'm you know, in shorts and a T shirt.
A great line of guns.
Speaker 6 (27:02):
Yes, the three eighty is very small, incredibly small, and
that's still one of our most popular models. For example,
in California where we are allowed to sell, our P
three eights are on the California list.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
So there has been a new a new product in
that in the car market, the X series, and we
actually had it as the gun of the Week a
while back. It's really kind of old car meets uh,
the new market at Double Stack Magazine now, a lot
of those same things that people liked about the car
now kind of in a more modern pistol.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Tell us a little bit about the X series.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
Yeah, So the X Series. The genesis of that was
that the market was shifting to people wanted more capacity,
they wanted more rounds, but they wanted to keep the
same size gun. So we started to see us, especially
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with the SIG and then with Spring Alarmory with the Hellcat.
They came out with a higher capacity, very concealable handgun
and it really caught a lot of It got a
lot of attention, more so than we thought. We were
surprised to see how much interest there was in the
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additional capacity, because we always felt, well, seven rounds, eight rounds,
that's enough in single stack. I mean, we're still thinner
with our single stack than the ten round competitors. But
we could see the way where the market was going.
I think we were a little bit late to jump
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on it, to follow that trend. And part of that
was we were very consumed with our Magnum Research brand
and our Auto Ordnance brand, which was really driving most
of ourselves for a number of years, and we kind
of backed off the gas a little bit on the
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concealed carry market. But now we're with our X nine,
we're looking to get back into it. And it's it's
two ten round magazines. It can also take a six
P three sixty five magazine. And we're going to have
some extensions, some what we call line extensions. Some a
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smaller model, a larger model, higher capacity magazines, things like
that ap ported model.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Wow, that's good, and it still has all those those
same things that we've come to love about the car arms.
One rumor that I heard out there and I don't know,
I mean, as you mentioned, it can take the SIG
three to sixty five mags. Was there one point that
was gonna also be able to take the hell Cat mags.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
Uh, yeah, We'll take the hall Cup mag. It's just
it's just runs better.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
With the Okay, okay, but.
Speaker 6 (30:16):
If we did testing with the Hellcat mag And I
don't want to go out there and say, hey, yeah,
you know, we'll guarantee one hundred percent with the Hellcat,
but right, but yeah, for sure with the Sigma right.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Well, moving over to the auto ordinance, Uh, in Thompson
line auto ordinance, I mean the the or Thompson, the
Tommy Gun. I mean, as you mentioned, just iconic. You know,
every time you see one out there, you kind of smile.
I didn't realize how many different models are out there
now on the website. But you're really buying a piece
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of history when you buy those today.
Speaker 6 (30:56):
Yeah, and we have really worked hard to them as
authentic as possible, like I mentioned before, with the markings,
and finally after many years over a decade, well actually
even longer. We bought them in ninety nine, so in
right around twenty eighteen or twenty nineteen, we finally received
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trade dress on it, which means that if someone makes
anything in the shape of atomic gun using that silhouette,
whether it's a T shirt, a glass bottle, a cigarette lighter, whatever,
we aren't protected. We can collect royalties, and we have
people making items in the shape of a Tommy gun
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that we do collect royalties for. So the trade dress
is a big deal. Wow, it is too many years.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
It is truly iconic. Definitely worth going out there and
taking a peak. We still have customers come in and
have us order them. I mean we just had actually
somebody that I work with wanted one actually an SBR
and kind of an original configuration. So super neat to
see those when they when they come in. Also on
the Thompson line, I think this is newer though, is
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a fifty BMG that just came out.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
That's right, That's that's been our exciting new product for
twenty twenty five. We officially launched it at Shot Show
in Vegas in January. We had had some prototypes on
display at a few other shows, but it was a
Shot Show that we made the public launch and this
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is one hundred percent made in the US.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
We have a.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
Smaller manufacturer who's producing them for US under the Auto
Ordinance brand, and it just so happens. We call it
TAW which is Thompson Auto Ordinance fifty and little play
on words there to you know, get attention to the product.
And there are a couple of patent pending on the product.
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When is the muzzle break. It's a very unique muscle
break and it allows the felt recoil to be far
less than other fifty DMG. There's a video out there
by Kentucky Ballistics. I think it has probably over two
million views now. He shoots a competitor product and has
(33:24):
an egg on his shoulder where the butt stuck is
and the egg splatters. He shoots the towel fifty and
the egg doesn't doesn't even break.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Wow. I did to check that out.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
Yeah, yeah, And he had never he had never done it.
He did the first time he did it was on camera,
so you could see the look on his face when
he pulled the egg out from the cloth. He was like,
oh my gosh, it didn't break.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (33:52):
So that it has less felt recoil and where we
recently came out with a Force sixteen Barrett which we
can sell in California and it takes Barret magazines. So
it's a very interesting product and i'd like to, you know,
(34:13):
encourage people to check out that YouTube. You know, it's
fifteen or seventeen minutes long, but it's really worth Yeah,
how to.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Go in fact that you can sell it in California
is awesome.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Yeah, or yeah, the four sixteen definitely. So we're talking
to Frank Harris who works for car and as you're
hearing many of the other manufacturers that's now part of
the umbrella Magnum Research. I mean, when you think of
Magnum Research, I immediately go to the Desert Eagle and it's
it's funny because that in and of itself has become
(34:44):
iconic and part of pop culture and stuff. Are you
still selling quite a few of the Desert Eagles out there?
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (34:52):
The Desert Eagle is another product we purchased in the
company in twenty ten and they were really in dire
streets and hadn't really been promoted or marketed. They were
trying to take manufacturing on it at that time. It
was The Desert Eagle has always been designed and conceived
(35:16):
in the US, but it was being produced in Israel,
and over time they wanted to bring it to the
US and they weren't able to and the company was
literally ready to go out of business when we bought
them and we were able to bring the manufacturing back.
And it's been an amazing journey with that product.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
Just amazing and the.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
Configurations that we've done on the Desert Eagle, the different
special editions. People loved that gun and they love it.
There's so much metal to work with. You can it's
just like a blank canvas.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Yeah, they're neat. I mean they're neat.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
And one of the things everyone looked at us said,
oh that man, they REQUI on that. But when I
was at a show a couple of years back, car
Or Magnum Research was set up there and we were
shooting them one handed. It's amazing how controllable they are.
It's not like what you would think so with the weight.
Speaker 6 (36:15):
And also we designed one of our the innovations we
put on the Desert Eagle was you can buy it
with We call it an integral muscle break and imb
and that reduces recoil about twenty percent.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Yeah, yeah, and it's noticeable.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
It's noticeable also under the Magnum Research line nineteen elevens
and they are very nice nineteen elevens. Is that still
a good line for you guys?
Speaker 6 (36:44):
The nineteen eleven has been amazing for US the company.
Most of the products for magnetic research are made in
the US, but the nineteen eleven has been made in Israel,
and unfortunate because of the conflict in Israel, we are
(37:04):
going to lose that line. Oh wow, They're just not
able to produce it anymore because of situations with parts
that they get from other countries and other countries pat
boycotted Israel and refuse to send firearm parts to Israel.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (37:26):
So that has that has sort of said, that's been
an amazing line. We're looking to produce it here in
the US under the same configuration and that happens to
be a Series seventy design, which means it doesn't have
a fir and thin block. It's got a wonderful trigger.
So we're going to try to replicate that with our
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US production.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Every time we get one in the used cabinet and stuff,
we're all taking a look at those. Hey, the last
one I wanted to touch upon here before we got
to jump to the break that the BFR. Now, if
for those out there who don't know about the BFRs,
they are a revolver that you can get in thirty
thirty Winchester three fifty Legend for sixty Smith and Weston
(38:12):
four four four Marlin, we're talking about a big frame revolver.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
That what that means?
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Yes, big frame revolvers.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
I had another thing in mind.
Speaker 6 (38:24):
Yeah, we have to see recently we uh we decided
to go back to the original BFR wording, which is
the biggest finest revolver.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
They are that too.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Do you have anything here?
Speaker 2 (38:45):
No, no, they are they truly all kidding aside.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
They're beautiful. Can we get to a website?
Speaker 6 (38:51):
Yeah, they're so well made. And we also have I
like to mention we have our custom shops for Desert
Eagle and a BFR and our Magnum Light Rifle where
people can go to the website and actually build a
gun and a custom gun and they can pick different finishes,
(39:16):
different grips, different sites, build it up and we ship
it to the dealer and it's been very successful. Wow,
but it lets people use their imagination. They can do
some pretty there's some pretty interesting options on that website.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Wow cool, cool, Well, Frank, our time is ending here,
but thank you so much for jumping on with us.
I commit to you. It's not going to be another
seven or eight years for the next time.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
I know.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Seriously, if you're out there, you got to check out
car arms out of Ordnance Magnum Research BFR. All really
good products finally made and available here at our store.
So thanks for jumping on with us. Have a great
rest of your weekend, and we'll be in touch soon.
Speaker 6 (40:07):
Okay, thank you, Eric, appreciate the time.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
All right, mister Frank Harris. Guys that jump to a
break and we come back on the other side. We'll
finish up on a couple of things we're all talking
about broadcasting live from the studio of LPD Farms and Arrange.
We'll be back right to the break. Welcome back to
on Target. I'm here, Seric joined today. I got big
ED to my ride. Always good to see a big ED.
I don't know what you did to the Facebook feed
or something, ed, but everyone says anything.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Maybe that's the problem. Maybe you need to step it up. Here.
Apparently you know what.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Facebook has been on our case lately and we haven't
done anything, but they have spanked us several times in
recent times and won't tell us why, but they just
take stuff down, So it could be that.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Who knows.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
I will try to repost it later today though. Hey,
a couple of things I wanted to mention. This week
we get in another batch of police trades. This next
batch are all forty calibers and ED, before you say, oh, forty,
they're really good guns. There's Smith and Wessons, there's duty
guns that are in forty. There are shield forties which
(41:10):
we don't typically see, like a backup off.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Duty guns come in.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
They will with this batch, and hopefully I don't know
what it's gonna like yet.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
The package that we're selling them for should be really good.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
It should include firearm three mags, a lot of them
with boxes, I think, and it's gonna include Ammo with it,
so it might be a package you can't refuse.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
ED, it will be mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Something else too, As I mentioned, the top big or
JC sent me some stories this week, a couple of
them and ED, you tell me your opinion on this
I have my opinion. The Uspls Court ruled on Wednesday
this week that are federal law that bars illegal drug
users from owning guns could be unconstitutional. This has been
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going back and forth now Actually next week we have
Bob Meter on with us and we're going to discuss
this in greater detail.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
I don't know. I mean, this is all going back to.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Bruin, and I don't know. I got mixed feelings on this.
I mean, obviously, marijuana use is becoming more commonplace or
at least legal in a lot of states, including Ohio,
and there's a lot of things now going up to
the courts where it is saying, hey, is that something
that meets historical standards by not allowing somebody who is
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a user.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
I mean it has been in.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
The past you had to prove that the person is
dangerous to themselves or others, and the mere fact that
they're a user, these courts are saying might not rise.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
To that to that level. So I don't know. It's
it's a slippery slope. I think I.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
Agree, And anything that's on the horizon with the marijuana
laws with the gun laws is always going to be
an iffy and slippery slope type situation, and so many
some of the common sense that's supposed to be out
there is not there. It's just amazing the people that
(43:05):
want to taken fight over something so stupid.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
Well, and in this I mean it has all the
markets going back to the Supreme Court. I mean you
might if you were out there arguing and like I said,
I have my own thoughts, but if you were arguing that, hey,
look this is these are legal now in states. How
can you make it illegal for someone to own the
gun if they're a user of marijuana. I can see
people making that argument. But where does it stop on
user of cocaine. It's not it's they're not saying because
(43:30):
it's an illicit drug. They're saying a user of a
narcotic And so can you prove that a person on
cocaine is is necessarily a danger enough to.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
I know, I know.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
Drugs legal And now they're saying, oh, that was a mistake.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
I know it, I know it.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Guys, Thanks for spending the time with us. Next week,
Bob Meter is on the show. Upcoming weeks, we have
Derek Debros, we have camad Ors.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
You've got all kinds of good lineups.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Coming on, have a good safe If you need us
for anything, definitely reach out and as always, let's be
careful out there.
Think of this.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
You're going about your business, just a normal day, when
suddenly you're thrust into being a witness to a crime.
It's play out right there in front of you. Do
you intervene or do you become a good witness? You
make your way to the phone, You dial nine to
one one, You give the dispatchers the description of what
(00:22):
you're seeing. What you're seeing right there in front of
you in real time, the thugs having their way, The
police arrive, and you feel comfort and that you did
your part today to hold crime at bay. But it's
twenty twenty five and you live in a city that's
(00:42):
not like it used to be a few short years
ago before the riots. Common sense, common sense just seems
less and less common and woke politicians, leaders, and social
justice attorneys are steering the ship.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Today.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
You'll hear about what's happening in Columbus, Ohio that just
might change your mind the next time you pick up
the phone and dial nine to one to one. An
unforgettable episode of On Target.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
It's up next. Good afternoon, Welcome on Talking.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
We're breadcasting live from the studios of LAPD Firearms Range
and Training Facility.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I'm Eric the host, and I'm.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Here with Ed whoa whoa, whoa whoa.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Nice you could make it, Edward.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
We did redo that introduction.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Eric, I'm your host and I'm here with Big Edsys
to my right, Big Ed, smaller and smaller every time
I see you, But I'm still gonna call you Big Ed.
All right, guys, I'm gonna get right to it today,
because we have so much to pack in. We are
the owners of LAPD Firearms Range and Training Facility and
are active in law enforcement. But for one hour on Saturdays,
we put together a group of firearm experts to discuss
(01:45):
new products in the market, training tips, and oftentimes political
topics surrounding the Second Amendment.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Our commitment that has always been to bring.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
You facts about our industry and help listeners and customers
with safe responsors of firearms. Guys want to I think
an aj from aim point from jumping on with this
last week. What a great company, a great product. We're
in the market for optics, either for rifle or pistol
now definitely something to consider. The ame point line. We
have them right here in the store and there's led
(02:14):
discounts too.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Ed.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
If you are happened to be looking for him. There
is no JC today, but I have a few quick stories.
Of course he had to call me and sent me
some stories today, So thanks to JC y we still
got a couple of stories. But at twelve fifteen, we're
gonna go right to FLP President Brian Steele. There's been
so much that happened this week in Columbus. You know,
(02:36):
just when you think it's going to be a nice,
calm week, a couple of big things this week, actually
several big things this week right here in Columbus that
we're going to get to here shortly. But Brian's going
to join us at twelve fifteen. But at twelve thirty,
twelve thirty ed Frank Harris is gonna call him in
and you're gonna say, well, who is Frank Harris? Now,
I know it's been a while, it's been since twenty
(02:58):
seventeen that he on the show with us before. And
Frank works for car Arms, and you might say car Jeez,
I've kind of heard of them, and they've been kind
of in and out. Well, car Arms now owns a
bunch of different priorly prior fire arms manufacturers, and so
their umbrella of companies really is very broad. It's not
(03:22):
just car arms this car, it's Auto Ordinance, it's Magnum Research,
it's BFR.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
And many many more. So we're gonna invite him back
to the show.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
It's been a while, talk about some of the product
line which you need to be looking at and see
some of the new stuff that's coming down. So you're
not gonna want to miss that. That is at twelve thirty.
I also want to give a thank you again and Ed.
This is another another time where I'm out there using
your name and not in a good way to car,
Car and Gun clubber's here this week and where were
(03:50):
you at?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
I didn't get notified.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Oh I told you, But I think I told you
to text me again the day before.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
What am I in your secretary now?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
But I thought you okay, I mean a friend who'd
have done that.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah, that is a valid point. But they were here.
It was a great event, and we have committed with them.
We need to do this every year. I think we've
missed a couple of years with them. But it's such
a great group. If you're not a part of that
and you're into you know, fine bourbon and cigars and cars,
it is a great group. I mean a good networking opportunities.
They go to different places each month and really good
(04:24):
good guys. So if that's something that you think you
might want to be a part of, reach out to
us and we can put you in touch with those guys.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Got to think our.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Sponsors US law Shield to see them in here today.
Jackson ee Gress Windows, Black Wings Shooting Center. I have
to mention a couple of things coming up with those guys.
On nine to twenty one. Derek de Brost is going
to have a seminar over there a Black Wing. He's
gonna be on our show a week or two before
or after that as well. Always good to see though
him in person. But ten nineteen Defensive Shotgun with Greg Gellafritz,
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that's a good class. I'm trying to figure out a
way to go there and make it to that class
and not do the show that day. But that's going
to be a good one.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
So if.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Maybe we'll have that opportunity, well there you go.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
I'll probably be working it.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
River's Edge Culleri have to oh, I know River's Edge
Cutlery on nine thirteen September thirteenth, actually right around the
corner they're gonna have their twenty second anniversary party. If
you haven't seen their place in Hilliard, it is gorgeous.
I'm jealous every time I walk in the door. I
buy something every time I walk in the door. But
it's really really neat. Go over and support those guys
(05:30):
on September thirteenth for their twenty second anniversary party, And
of course I always have to thank LPD Training Facility,
who is also a sponsor of this show. Joining me
today is Big ed sitting to my right.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Oh did you did you? Did you see my Big
interview this week on Cam Edwards Show.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Oh? You know, I think I was working.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
They play It's out there on YouTube. You can go
out there. Let's see here you all right? All right?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Well, if you missed it Cam Edwards Show, I had
an opportunity to jump on with him talk about the
state of the industry under the new administration. Always good
to talk to Cam on his Bearing Arms show. He
is going to be with us in a couple of
weeks because he has, you know, he's on the front
lines of National News, has released a second amendment. So
he's gonna jump on with us in a couple weeks.
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But it's always good to jump on with him. And
then I was on with Mark Blazer this week and
that leads into our first news story that I'm sure
you saw this d This is this is big. A
Franklin County judge ruled this week that Columbus cannot pass.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Their own gun laws.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Good which we knew. I mean, it's you know, it
makes you mad because it's always of our money.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
People's money.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Columbus, Cincinnati, and Cleveland continue to do this. This has
already gone up to the Ohio Supreme Court on two
separate occasions, and they said it is constitutional. Preemption is
what it's called, is constitutional, which says that these little
cities and suburbs can't make their own gun laws that
supersedes or pre empty Ohio Low. Can you imagine that
(07:03):
patchwork of Okay, I'm in the city of Columbus, this
is banned. Okay, I'm in Westerville, but that's good. But
this is it's crazy. But these idiots continued to try
to do it, and including Zach Klein, who came out
and doubled down.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
We might have to, you know, appeal this.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Oh go ahead, waste some more money.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Why don't they go?
Speaker 2 (07:21):
And they and proposed stuff that is that would affect crime.
You know, one of the things that we said.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Say let's make an arrest and put them in jail.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Well that's one idea.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
But like I said on Blazer this week, if you're
that adamant that the thirty round magazine and this whole
thing started our twenty nine ers, and see some of
the people out there in the crowd who helped.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Us during those days.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
If they're so adamant that the thirty round magazine is
what's causing the crime, why not say, why not put
a provision that if you commit a crime in the
city of Columbus and you were caught with a thirty
round magazine there, that's going to be you know, an
additional charge or you know, on to that. But no,
they would rather go out there without facts, make a
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blanket statement that we need to ban them. And how
asinine to think with millions of them around, millions of them,
that they're going to take them off the street. They're
just I don't know ed if they're just not smart
or if it's intentional, I don't know what it is,
but it's a path that they continue to go down,
costing us money.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
It's not because they're smart. It's because they're just trying
to ban guns. It's got nothing to do with what
crime is going on in the city. Al they try
and link it to that and say it's because of
the crime.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
There's no stats to it, there's no status yet they
want yet yet, And that's an arguable thing. Does the
thirty round magazine? Is that contributing to the crime yet?
A glock switch, which we know contributes to the crime
time and time and time again. They put the flipping
guy on community control who ultimately goes out and shoes
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two officers, and they're saying, we don't know how to
to control this head.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
We don't know how to I mean, what a bunch.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Of idiots and talk to the people who know.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
No or or there's some underlying thing they're trying to
do band guns, whatever it is. Now, in good faith,
we reached out to Zach Clin's office and invite him
on the show. And we weren't doing this in some
facetious way where we're gonna, man, we're gonna get him
on here, and no, we want to have a civil discussion.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
It should be he's a public figure.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
And he said with no response.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
It's I mean, we should be able to sit here
and let him enlighten me, let him say where we
didn't publish it. But you know, thirty round magazines are
found at every crime scene in Columbus. Okay, then you know, Zach,
let's talk about that. But heck no, heck no, it doesn't.
It's not based on facts. Whenever you put these guys
in a corner, they fooled because their arguments hold zero water.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
So, guys, with all that, let's jump to a break
because on the other side, on the other side, we
are going to get to our good friend, Lieutenant Brian
Still for p Elive number nine, President, talk about what
happened in Columbus this week. We're ill talk about broadcasting
life from the studios of LAPD Firearms and arrange.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
We'll be back after the break. How appropriate for our
next guest.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Ed he's a heck of a dancer.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Car, No, not the dancing cars. Shake it up.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I mean, come on, Car's still a dancer. I've never
seen him dance.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Ask him.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Welcome back to on Target.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I'm your hysteric joined today in the l EPD studio.
I have big ed to my right and on the
phone with us now our good friend FOP President and Lieutenant.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Mister Bryan Steele.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
Hey doing Brian, Good, Good morning everybody, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Good morning. Hey.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Do you ever get a moment's of peace? I'll tell
you it's like it's never ending.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Yeah, but you know what this is. This is the
job as we signed up for, and you just keep grinding.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
It is it is. Well, hey, I want to tee up.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
The first thing I wanted to touch base with us
today and it has to do with with Takaya Young.
You know, she was, by her own admission, a career thief.
Actually that was her own words that described that she
described herself when she was caught red handed in twenty
twenty two all on CPD body cam. You can go
out there and watch the video on our Facebook page.
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But she was caught shoplifting and she said during that
that shoplifting was her job. Fast forward to twenty twenty
three and while working, she was seen on video stealing
bottles of liquor from a Kroger's and not just a
bottle of liquor, you know, a crime of opportunity and
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I'm going to take this and swipe it. She walks in,
takes her out of her purse a larger bag and
proceeds to put up to six bottles of liquor into
the bag and proceeds to walk out along with the
other thugs that she was with that day. Now, that
day when that happened, she walked out and somebody at
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Kroger's called nine to one one like you would expect
him to do. Another employee followed followed her out. Happened
to be Blendon Township officer was in the area. She
pointed him out, and unfortunately, what had happened after that
was Takaya chose to do something inadvertently, whether intentionally or not,
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try to run over an officer.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
It ultimately resulted in.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Her death, which is a tragedy from all standpoints. But
in this twenty twenty five City of Columbus world, there
is more to this story, and that part of that
story came out this week when social justice attorney Sean
Walton did this, Brian Briy, do you want to go
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what old mister Walton did?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
Yeah, So I won't.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
Even mention his name because I think he's a bottom
feeding attorney and he capitalizes on incidents like this. So
they're suing Kroger to happen on their property, all right,
They're sueing the police officer. I will give you that,
all right, sue the police. I understand it. Don't like it,
but I get it. But they are so low. They
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are suing the twenty two year old store employee who
flagged down police officers. So think about this. I shop
at Kroger's. This is an employee's job. An employee witnesses
a twenty year old woman witnesses a crime being committed
and does nothing more than say, officer, officer, they're stealing.
And now, according to these bottle fiendair attorneys, they are
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responsible and escalated what they call violence that led to
her death. Let's make this clear. The only reason, the
only person we could blame for the death of miss
Young is miss Young.
Speaker 6 (13:37):
And that's just the reality.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
It's unfathomable. I mean, and do you hear the press
conference from that social justice attorney this week where he said,
and and it drives me crazy that I know it
does you as well, where they come out and says
nobody deserves to die over a bottle of liquor. And
we could all sit around us say you're right, nobody
would die.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
She died.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
That is not why she died. She died because she chose.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
To move her car forward enough that it lifted the
officer off the ground. Now, if you want to sit
in debate tactics and everything else later, that that's a
whole nother story. But to then sue the Kroger employee
who larned because she escalated, I mean, what kind of
world are we living in? I mean you look at her, Brian,
You look at that, and we say, okay, you know,
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this should all get you know, thrown out eventually. But
at what cost to that twenty two year old employee.
I mean, she's going to have to defend herself now.
I mean, that's that's the burden that these attorneys put
on society.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Well, Brian said, the scum feeders.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Yeah, yeah, and I left. You're those You listen to
your show, Nobody wants to stay.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Understand.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
It just shows how how low these people are willing
to go to try to get a payday. And that's
all it is Groger to blend and they want to pay.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
You're right, I'm gonna I'm gonna say it. It's it's
race reversal. That's all it is.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Hey, it is it was playing on it is playing
on that certainly in this environment, Brian, let's switch gears
for a second, because that wasn't the only thing that
you were dealing with this week. CPD officer Damon Scales.
I don't know if you've had a chance to see
the video out there.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
It was for those who.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Haven't seen it, it was a off duty CPD officer
who you know, call me old school, who didn't act
the part, who didn't act like an officer in an
off duty capacity, and at one point, even on the video,
push attacked a fellow officer. Did you have an opportunity
to see that one, Brian?
Speaker 5 (15:47):
I did. I saw the viral video. I haven't seen
the road underdaptive video yet.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Well, I'm glad you admitted to that, Brian, because the
media Channel six especially kept saying, we haven't seen that
video yet, so we're not gonna be able to post
everybody else saw it.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Yeah, that's interesting. I believe the division did identify the
officer as an officer at first. I know the media
wanted me to identify him, but I don't know him.
I have no way to collaborate it. But what I
saw in that video was disturbing regardless, but even more
disturbing if it is an officer. And as you know, well,
we're not above the law. We're certainly expected by society
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to have a higher set of standards, and what I
saw in that video fell short of that expectation, way short.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
It didn't.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
I mean, is it is it just are we just
old now, Brian? Is it just are we working off
of how law enforcement used to be and now that's
becoming accepted. And I guess we got to give the
department a chance. I mean, they took as bad age
and gun, which is obviously a good first move, but
it just it just seems I don't know, I don't
want to say more acceptable, but it just doesn't seem
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as outrageous as it once would have been if that
happened ten years ago, or if he.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Was a wife.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
But there's certainly some changes. I think the overwhelming majority
of the men and women of central law enforcement, whether
you're in Perry Township, the sheriff's officers, Columbus Place, I
think the overwhelming are very professional on and off duty. Again,
this is an investigation the investigation will tell you more.
But remember this, I'm paid to advocate for officers, to
represent officers. I'm not paid, nor would I even if
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I was paid to defend officers who cross the line.
Speaker 6 (17:25):
So I'll always wait.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
For the investigation to finish. I want to know why
I went and aware of it. From what I saw,
it's very very hard impossible to defend actions like that
or language like that.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Well, and the other thing too, behind that we talked about.
We're talking Lieutenant Brian Stale FLP Lies number nine. The
other thing that's difficult too is how do you have
that out there and it's so apparent and it's so
evident of what went on. You know, of course you
have to wait till it all shakes out, but how
do you then expect the public to take serious the
next time a civilian pushes an officer. And the other
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thing for me personally that that really kind of hit
home in this It was was just not only his demeanor,
but but his language. I mean that the the way
that he spoke to the officers and to the others there.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
I'm going to be honest, I mean, for me personally,
he looked like a thug.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
He looked like a thug on this street, with his
with his demeanor, with his vernacular of that the language,
I mean, it's I was appalled that he would be
a fellow officer.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Honestly.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
Yeah, that those actions, that language, it was shocking to hear.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah, so, uh so, I assume you're hoping for a
little bit of a quieter week next week.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
Yeah, well, we'll see. We'll see. We've got a football game, right,
They're they're a team in this town.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
I hear it has a game, that is true. Are
you going to be down there at all, Brian?
Speaker 5 (18:52):
I will be down there for the tailgate. The FOP
has a tailgate and the honor off duty officer first responder.
Come on by the f people bellgate. We'll feed you
and send you on your way. And we need some
people to flip burgers, bighet. If you ever want to
put your burger flip into a task here, we'd love.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
To have you. I don't know if you can afford me.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
He'll pay you in Hamburgers.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
Oh okay, oh.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
Hamburgers.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I might have to look you up this week, lieutenant,
but I'll be down there working as usual. But you
know I can always slip away for a second, so
I might have to find out where that tailgate is
going to be.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Hey, if you can get me in and out of
everybody helicopter, I'll be more happy to come.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
Yeah, you know what, we'll work on that.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Wait, Brian, Well, thanks for calling. And one other thing too,
I want I want to mention. I mean, obviously Brian
is a good friend of ours and of the show,
but Brian, you know, hats off to you for always
supporting the men and women of law enforcement in our community.
Not just that though, but for always willing to come
and be a part of the discussion. I mean, there
is I would look back there. There's not one time
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that I hadn't said, hey, Brian, last minute, can you
come on that You've said no, And there's there's never
been a topic that you said, you know what, we
got to stay away from. You've always been willing to
have that discussion, and that is so important, and it's
so it's becoming less and less prevalent out there with
leaders and so forth. So I come in you for that,
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and I know we're friends and stuff, but it truly
does stand out and we appreciate that.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
Well, I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
That means a lot. Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Yeah, all right, have a good toto everything he just said, Brian,
I think I think you are an asset to Columbus
Police and actually with the FOP Lodge. I was so
impressed to see you get president there and what you've done.
Outstanding work, outstanding.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
It means a lot.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
All right, Brian, you have a red read a good
rest of your weekend, this Lieutenant Brian Stale, CPD so Edward. Uh,
it's just a lot to take in this week. I
mean a lot to take in with everything that went
on this last minute. Before you go to break, I
want to bring up one thing we just kind of
give a shout out. It's kind of a really kind
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of a crummy thing. But there's gonna be We're gonna
do a post out there on our Facebook page at
some point. But thoughts and prayers to a former employee
of ours, she worked with us, actually not just an employee,
a good friend of us, a good friend of the family.
Actually somebody I went to high school with her and
her family down in Mexico last week and had a horrible, horrible.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Event happened to him.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
We'll post some stuff out there on Facebook and stuff,
but just keep you Lori and the whole family and
their thoughts and prayers as they go through a difficult,
difficult time and stuff. So let's jump to a break. Guys,
on the other side, we're gonna get to car Arms.
Frank Harriss is gonna jump on and join us, talk
about some of the product lines and why you might
want to think about a new item from them. We're
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on talking about broadcasting live from the studios of LPD
Farms Arranged. We'll be back after the break. Welcome back
to on Target. I'm here, steric joined today in the
LPD studio. I got big to my ride, glad to
be here, just us too here and of course the
live studio audience.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Who are talking amongst them, they're not they don't even
know a show's going on. Ed, I can see that, guys.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Uh, we teed it up at the top of the hour.
But our next guest is someone who's actually been on
the show before.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
ED about eight years ago, which is amazing. I don't
know where time goes.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Yeah, oh yeah, I've been waiting for him to come
back on. We've been talking.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
I know I know it. Wealk today.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
It's a lucky day because he's back on our next
guest is he works for Actually it's he works for
car Arms, But many of you probably don't realize that
car now owns or is a part of a bigger
group that encompasses Magnum Research, Auto Ordinance BFR and a
bunch of other smaller companies. So, without further ado, we
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welcome Frank Harris back to the program.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
How are you doing, sir, Hello guys, good to be
back on time. I can't believe it's been eight years.
I don't know, what's a long time.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
I know, I don't know what's more surprising that you're
still around there or worst around here, but uh probably yes, yes,
well we're super excited about you being here today. You know,
you and I had an opportunity to catch up a
few months back at a trade show, and personally, what
caught my eyes. I was pleasantly surprised to see car
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Arms because we you know, in the day seven eight
years ago, we were selling a lot of car arms
in the market and not so much show so in
recent times. But you quickly reminded me that you know,
it's not just about car it's about Auto Ordinance and
Magnum Research and so much more. And so I thought,
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you know, a great time to bring you back on
talk a little bit about the product line.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
But I wanted to start.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Well, a matter of fact, let's why don't you tell
us a little bit about how the whole conglomeration has
come about.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
Okay, Well, now we call ourselves a Car Firearms Group,
and then under the Car Firearms Group there are three
distinct brands, car Arms, Auto Ordinance, and Magnum Research. Car
Arms is the consiltary small polymer pistols. That's how we
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got our start, that's what we're known for. And then
in nineteen ninety nine we purchased Auto Ordnance, which is
known for historical military replicas. Everything works. I call them
replicas because some of the items, like the Tommy gun
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has to have a longer barrel and it's semi auto.
But it's true to the design with all the markings
and the logos and the trade draft is true to
the original.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Design, right, and it's it's it's neat now that there's
so much more that you represent on the car arm
side of things, though, like I mentioned, you know, the
PM series of single stacked nines and three eighties. They
were they were a little bit ahead of their time.
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They were almost almost an heirloom piece. I mean they
were so and they still are finally made. And I
mean as a consumer, you could come in and pick
one of those up and know that you were holding
something different from everything else out there, that that looked
pretty much the same.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
Yes, the car PM nine, that's my all time favorite
car pistol and I have one as my carry gun,
and I love it. It's so easy to carry, so concealable,
and the trigger is wonderful. It's got very little felt
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recoils for a small gun, and it's just all around
a great a great gun.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Right, And that's how we used to sell.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
I mean, the felt recoil on the car lines were
always so much less than than the caliber. So when
you shot the PM nine, I mean people walked away
saying that felt like a three eighty. And you know,
some of the flip side of that was they were
a little bit harder to pull back on the slide.
But once you knew that, I mean, they were wonderful guns.
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And the triggers we we always described them as a
finely tuned revolver trigger. I mean, they were a little
bit longer than your traditional striker, but they broke nice,
they felt great, and I mean really everything about them.
I still carry a P three eighty from time to
time when i'm you know, in shorts and a T shirt.
A great line of guns.
Speaker 6 (27:02):
Yes, the three eighty is very small, incredibly small, and
that's still one of our most popular models. For example,
in California where we are allowed to sell, our P
three eights are on the California list.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
So there has been a new a new product in
that in the car market, the X series, and we
actually had it as the gun of the Week a
while back. It's really kind of old car meets uh,
the new market at Double Stack Magazine now, a lot
of those same things that people liked about the car
now kind of in a more modern pistol.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Tell us a little bit about the X series.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
Yeah, So the X Series. The genesis of that was
that the market was shifting to people wanted more capacity,
they wanted more rounds, but they wanted to keep the
same size gun. So we started to see us, especially
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with the SIG and then with Spring Alarmory with the Hellcat.
They came out with a higher capacity, very concealable handgun
and it really caught a lot of It got a
lot of attention, more so than we thought. We were
surprised to see how much interest there was in the
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additional capacity, because we always felt, well, seven rounds, eight rounds,
that's enough in single stack. I mean, we're still thinner
with our single stack than the ten round competitors. But
we could see the way where the market was going.
I think we were a little bit late to jump
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on it, to follow that trend. And part of that
was we were very consumed with our Magnum Research brand
and our Auto Ordnance brand, which was really driving most
of ourselves for a number of years, and we kind
of backed off the gas a little bit on the
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concealed carry market. But now we're with our X nine,
we're looking to get back into it. And it's it's
two ten round magazines. It can also take a six
P three sixty five magazine. And we're going to have
some extensions, some what we call line extensions. Some a
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smaller model, a larger model, higher capacity magazines, things like
that ap ported model.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Wow, that's good, and it still has all those those
same things that we've come to love about the car arms.
One rumor that I heard out there and I don't know,
I mean, as you mentioned, it can take the SIG
three to sixty five mags. Was there one point that
was gonna also be able to take the hell Cat mags.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
Uh, yeah, We'll take the hall Cup mag. It's just
it's just runs better.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
With the Okay, okay, but.
Speaker 6 (30:16):
If we did testing with the Hellcat mag And I
don't want to go out there and say, hey, yeah,
you know, we'll guarantee one hundred percent with the Hellcat,
but right, but yeah, for sure with the Sigma right.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Well, moving over to the auto ordinance, Uh, in Thompson
line auto ordinance, I mean the the or Thompson, the
Tommy Gun. I mean, as you mentioned, just iconic. You know,
every time you see one out there, you kind of smile.
I didn't realize how many different models are out there
now on the website. But you're really buying a piece
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of history when you buy those today.
Speaker 6 (30:56):
Yeah, and we have really worked hard to them as
authentic as possible, like I mentioned before, with the markings,
and finally after many years over a decade, well actually
even longer. We bought them in ninety nine, so in
right around twenty eighteen or twenty nineteen, we finally received
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trade dress on it, which means that if someone makes
anything in the shape of atomic gun using that silhouette,
whether it's a T shirt, a glass bottle, a cigarette lighter, whatever,
we aren't protected. We can collect royalties, and we have
people making items in the shape of a Tommy gun
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that we do collect royalties for. So the trade dress
is a big deal. Wow, it is too many years.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
It is truly iconic. Definitely worth going out there and
taking a peak. We still have customers come in and
have us order them. I mean we just had actually
somebody that I work with wanted one actually an SBR
and kind of an original configuration. So super neat to
see those when they when they come in. Also on
the Thompson line, I think this is newer though, is
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a fifty BMG that just came out.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
That's right, That's that's been our exciting new product for
twenty twenty five. We officially launched it at Shot Show
in Vegas in January. We had had some prototypes on
display at a few other shows, but it was a
Shot Show that we made the public launch and this
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is one hundred percent made in the US.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
We have a.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
Smaller manufacturer who's producing them for US under the Auto
Ordinance brand, and it just so happens. We call it
TAW which is Thompson Auto Ordinance fifty and little play
on words there to you know, get attention to the product.
And there are a couple of patent pending on the product.
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When is the muzzle break. It's a very unique muscle
break and it allows the felt recoil to be far
less than other fifty DMG. There's a video out there
by Kentucky Ballistics. I think it has probably over two
million views now. He shoots a competitor product and has
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an egg on his shoulder where the butt stuck is
and the egg splatters. He shoots the towel fifty and
the egg doesn't doesn't even break.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Wow. I did to check that out.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
Yeah, yeah, And he had never he had never done it.
He did the first time he did it was on camera,
so you could see the look on his face when
he pulled the egg out from the cloth. He was like,
oh my gosh, it didn't break.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (33:52):
So that it has less felt recoil and where we
recently came out with a Force sixteen Barrett which we
can sell in California and it takes Barret magazines. So
it's a very interesting product and i'd like to, you know,
(34:13):
encourage people to check out that YouTube. You know, it's
fifteen or seventeen minutes long, but it's really worth Yeah,
how to.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Go in fact that you can sell it in California
is awesome.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Yeah, or yeah, the four sixteen definitely. So we're talking
to Frank Harris who works for car and as you're
hearing many of the other manufacturers that's now part of
the umbrella Magnum Research. I mean, when you think of
Magnum Research, I immediately go to the Desert Eagle and it's
it's funny because that in and of itself has become
(34:44):
iconic and part of pop culture and stuff. Are you
still selling quite a few of the Desert Eagles out there?
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (34:52):
The Desert Eagle is another product we purchased in the
company in twenty ten and they were really in dire
streets and hadn't really been promoted or marketed. They were
trying to take manufacturing on it at that time. It
was The Desert Eagle has always been designed and conceived
(35:16):
in the US, but it was being produced in Israel,
and over time they wanted to bring it to the
US and they weren't able to and the company was
literally ready to go out of business when we bought
them and we were able to bring the manufacturing back.
And it's been an amazing journey with that product.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
Just amazing and the.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
Configurations that we've done on the Desert Eagle, the different
special editions. People loved that gun and they love it.
There's so much metal to work with. You can it's
just like a blank canvas.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Yeah, they're neat. I mean they're neat.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
And one of the things everyone looked at us said,
oh that man, they REQUI on that. But when I
was at a show a couple of years back, car
Or Magnum Research was set up there and we were
shooting them one handed. It's amazing how controllable they are.
It's not like what you would think so with the weight.
Speaker 6 (36:15):
And also we designed one of our the innovations we
put on the Desert Eagle was you can buy it
with We call it an integral muscle break and imb
and that reduces recoil about twenty percent.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Yeah, yeah, and it's noticeable.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
It's noticeable also under the Magnum Research line nineteen elevens
and they are very nice nineteen elevens. Is that still
a good line for you guys?
Speaker 6 (36:44):
The nineteen eleven has been amazing for US the company.
Most of the products for magnetic research are made in
the US, but the nineteen eleven has been made in Israel,
and unfortunate because of the conflict in Israel, we are
(37:04):
going to lose that line. Oh wow, They're just not
able to produce it anymore because of situations with parts
that they get from other countries and other countries pat
boycotted Israel and refuse to send firearm parts to Israel.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (37:26):
So that has that has sort of said, that's been
an amazing line. We're looking to produce it here in
the US under the same configuration and that happens to
be a Series seventy design, which means it doesn't have
a fir and thin block. It's got a wonderful trigger.
So we're going to try to replicate that with our
(37:48):
US production.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Every time we get one in the used cabinet and stuff,
we're all taking a look at those. Hey, the last
one I wanted to touch upon here before we got
to jump to the break that the BFR. Now, if
for those out there who don't know about the BFRs,
they are a revolver that you can get in thirty
thirty Winchester three fifty Legend for sixty Smith and Weston
(38:12):
four four four Marlin, we're talking about a big frame revolver.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
That what that means?
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Yes, big frame revolvers.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
I had another thing in mind.
Speaker 6 (38:24):
Yeah, we have to see recently we uh we decided
to go back to the original BFR wording, which is
the biggest finest revolver.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
They are that too.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Do you have anything here?
Speaker 2 (38:45):
No, no, they are they truly all kidding aside.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
They're beautiful. Can we get to a website?
Speaker 6 (38:51):
Yeah, they're so well made. And we also have I
like to mention we have our custom shops for Desert
Eagle and a BFR and our Magnum Light Rifle where
people can go to the website and actually build a
gun and a custom gun and they can pick different finishes,
(39:16):
different grips, different sites, build it up and we ship
it to the dealer and it's been very successful. Wow,
but it lets people use their imagination. They can do
some pretty there's some pretty interesting options on that website.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Wow cool, cool, Well, Frank, our time is ending here,
but thank you so much for jumping on with us.
I commit to you. It's not going to be another
seven or eight years for the next time.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
I know.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Seriously, if you're out there, you got to check out
car arms out of Ordnance Magnum Research BFR. All really
good products finally made and available here at our store.
So thanks for jumping on with us. Have a great
rest of your weekend, and we'll be in touch soon.
Speaker 6 (40:07):
Okay, thank you, Eric, appreciate the time.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
All right, mister Frank Harris. Guys that jump to a
break and we come back on the other side. We'll
finish up on a couple of things we're all talking
about broadcasting live from the studio of LPD Farms and Arrange.
We'll be back right to the break. Welcome back to
on Target. I'm here, Seric joined today. I got big
ED to my ride. Always good to see a big ED.
I don't know what you did to the Facebook feed
or something, ed, but everyone says anything.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Maybe that's the problem. Maybe you need to step it up. Here.
Apparently you know what.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Facebook has been on our case lately and we haven't
done anything, but they have spanked us several times in
recent times and won't tell us why, but they just
take stuff down, So it could be that.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Who knows.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
I will try to repost it later today though. Hey,
a couple of things I wanted to mention. This week
we get in another batch of police trades. This next
batch are all forty calibers and ED, before you say, oh, forty,
they're really good guns. There's Smith and Wessons, there's duty
guns that are in forty. There are shield forties which
(41:10):
we don't typically see, like a backup off.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Duty guns come in.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
They will with this batch, and hopefully I don't know
what it's gonna like yet.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
The package that we're selling them for should be really good.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
It should include firearm three mags, a lot of them
with boxes, I think, and it's gonna include Ammo with it,
so it might be a package you can't refuse.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
ED, it will be mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Something else too, As I mentioned, the top big or
JC sent me some stories this week, a couple of
them and ED, you tell me your opinion on this
I have my opinion. The Uspls Court ruled on Wednesday
this week that are federal law that bars illegal drug
users from owning guns could be unconstitutional. This has been
(41:55):
going back and forth now Actually next week we have
Bob Meter on with us and we're going to discuss
this in greater detail.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
I don't know. I mean, this is all going back to.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Bruin, and I don't know. I got mixed feelings on this.
I mean, obviously, marijuana use is becoming more commonplace or
at least legal in a lot of states, including Ohio,
and there's a lot of things now going up to
the courts where it is saying, hey, is that something
that meets historical standards by not allowing somebody who is
(42:27):
a user.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
I mean it has been in.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
The past you had to prove that the person is
dangerous to themselves or others, and the mere fact that
they're a user, these courts are saying might not rise.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
To that to that level. So I don't know. It's
it's a slippery slope. I think I.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
Agree, And anything that's on the horizon with the marijuana
laws with the gun laws is always going to be
an iffy and slippery slope type situation, and so many
some of the common sense that's supposed to be out
there is not there. It's just amazing the people that
(43:05):
want to taken fight over something so stupid.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
Well, and in this I mean it has all the
markets going back to the Supreme Court. I mean you
might if you were out there arguing and like I said,
I have my own thoughts, but if you were arguing that, hey,
look this is these are legal now in states. How
can you make it illegal for someone to own the
gun if they're a user of marijuana. I can see
people making that argument. But where does it stop on
user of cocaine. It's not it's they're not saying because
(43:30):
it's an illicit drug. They're saying a user of a
narcotic And so can you prove that a person on
cocaine is is necessarily a danger enough to.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
I know, I know.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
Drugs legal And now they're saying, oh, that was a mistake.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
I know it, I know it.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Guys, Thanks for spending the time with us. Next week,
Bob Meter is on the show. Upcoming weeks, we have
Derek Debros, we have camad Ors.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
You've got all kinds of good lineups.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Coming on, have a good safe If you need us
for anything, definitely reach out and as always, let's be
careful out there.
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