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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, we don't have Hitcock forty five this week, but
it should be a good show.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Guys, right, it should be a good show. I hope,
I guess. I really don't know.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
But anyway, today we get to more items released at
shot Show. We talk about the new Albany incident, and
after much complaining from the Second Amendment community, the White
House White House last night steps up in a big
way to say you're right to keep in bare arms
shall not be infringed. Upond all of this and much

(00:31):
much more up next on Target. Good after you're walking
on Target, we're broadcasting live from the studios of LAPD
Farms Range and Training Facility that's located at nine nine
nine Triple nine Bethel Road. Guys, did you ever you
guys all on?

Speaker 3 (00:45):
I'm on?

Speaker 4 (00:45):
All right, yeah, I guess I'm on.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Did you guys?

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Have you ever woken up in the morning and just
felt like putting leather on?

Speaker 3 (00:52):
Hmm? I take it off?

Speaker 4 (00:54):
Yeah, take it off in the morning. Yeah, that's what
you normally do.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Seriously, this morning, I woke up, I was tired of
the Kaidex holsters, and I put the old school leather
back on.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
And oh, JC has leather.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah, yeah, I just got the little inside the waste queue.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Paul pap You know what, we're all We're all leather.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
What's going on here?

Speaker 2 (01:15):
We're all sporting a little leather today. Ed.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Nobody told me.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
You don't have to be told. It's just one of
those things. You wake up and you know today's leather day.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Okay, well I didn't wake up that way apparently.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Okay, there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Guys.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
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Speaker 2 (01:50):
Today on the show, well, first of all, we gotta.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Think, guys, how good was it to hear Hiccock forty
five calling in what what a good guy?

Speaker 2 (01:57):
A good friend of the show, good friend of ours.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
Great human being and just he's a great friend. I
mean they can't get a better friend.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
H Yeah, yeah, I missed you. Sorry, I was messing
with the camera. They're Facebook Squared Away with Paul Paul
there he is.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Actually we got something in the works with him too,
and I don't know. We're not gonna announce you, but
I don't know if it's going to work. But if
it works, it's going to be really neat. So stay
tuned for that and more certainly to come. Today on
the show, jac has good news, jac right, can we
tell good news?

Speaker 4 (02:29):
Very good news? So I'll tell you there are more
good news stories out there than the entire history of
we could, but there's like five shows where the news
stories out there that are just so important because of
our president and now what's happening with the Polks, his appointing,
it's amazing. So just sort of hope that Supreme Courts

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followed yep in the footsteps.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, you have definitely.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
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I got big ed to my right.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Good Hello, good morning, afternoon. Yep, good whatever it is.
It was morning when I left to go.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yep, good to see you, Good to see you. Did
you see me on Channel four this week?

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Well, you know, I think you asked me that earlier
and I had to say.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
No, I did not have about Channel six, no, Channel ten, no,
but Ed.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
We did interviews on all three networks this week and
nothing from my friend Ed.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
I'm sorry, you know, I can't always be around to
watch the news to catch you on.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
I'm glad you said those. I watched them all last night.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Probably let you go ahead of time, Didney.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
No, just last night. I mean we talked about news
last night.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
We do show prep ed show preparation, in all honesty, guys,
but they're show out there you can watch them, so
in all honesty, it was it was a really good topic.
So everyone obviously heard by now the horrific tragedy last
week with the new Albany who at the UH at
the facility there, and more and more is coming out
with the shoot, and there was an aspect that came

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out this week that was interesting and the reporters, I
have to hand it to him here locally, all stations
actually stumbled upon this, and it is a good topic
to have. The individual who was the suspect out of this.
It came out that he bought the gun November of
last year, but here not here, but in twenty twenty
two he or he had two occasions where he was

(04:24):
pink slipped by officers at CPD. And so, for those
of you who don't know, that is a tool that
officers have and first responders and in case you run
across somebody who's maybe having some type of a mental
breakdown or maybe suicidal something like that, and it's a
means of getting them help, getting them to a hospital

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and committing them for a couple of days in order
for them to get help. And oftentimes people get through
it and get beyond it. And the question was was, jeez,
if he had been pink slipped twice, and some of
the things he said at the time were pretty scary things,
how was he able to purchase the firearms. It's definitely
one that's worth talking about. The reason being is that

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pink slip in and of itself doesn't rise to the
level of prohibiting someone from taking away their constitutional rights.
So when you think about that, put everything else aside,
we're talking about the constitutional rights of somebody, and that's
the thing we shouldn't take lightly, and it shouldn't be
up to an individual officer on the street or a
clinician in a hospital to say, hey, you know, we're

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going to take away his or her rights. So it
has to be done with due process at the court level.
That's why in his case it never rose to that level,
and so he had never had his gun rights taken away.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
It was interesting because this was new to me too.
But as an officer, you certainly are aware of these,
but you can hold them up to three days. So
you would think ideally, if you in that period of
time you thought that there was something going on, you
get a hold of a probate judge or something that
could extend it anyway, have some court ruling that you

(06:07):
know that could help prevent something like the tragedy that
happened right this week.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
So right now.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
One other thing too, and then it didn't really come
out this week. They touched upon it yesterday on Channel four.
But one of the things is kind of my pet
peeve is that they said now that he appears to
be under the influence of narcotics or specifically marijuana when
he did this Right now, I'm just saying, there's a
little bit of surmising here. But if the gentleman was

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a user of an illegal narcotic at the federal level,
hence marijuana, last week when he committed this crime, he
purchased the firearm in November, I'm just guessing he didn't
just pick up this habit. No, I'm guessing so at
some point in the course of him purchasing this firearm,
he had to fill out a forty four to seventy

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three and check that I'm not a user of an.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Enlisted Are you trying to say, I'm trying.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
To say he should be charged on filling out a
federal form.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
And furthermore, and we've talked about this before, If, for instance,
he's using recreational marijuana, which is legal in Ohio and
can be bought at a dispensary that is government run
or has government ties to it, why isn't that information
if that's a prohibitor being fed into knicks should be interesting.

(07:26):
Those are the questions that people should be asking. And
I'm not saying one way or the other are personal feelings.
I'm just saying if that is the law, and we're
saying that if you're a user of legal narcotic and
that isn't legal narcotic, why isn't that being fed up
to nicks therefore possibly preventing someone such as him from
purchasing a firearm.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
Yeah, that still is what it says on the well,
the FFL form that you filled out in all letters,
if you're a user, you can't buy a.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
Firearm, guarantee you When he was pink slept, he was
drug tested or blood tested, I should say, to see
what's in their system. And I already know, and I
have it on good authority that they already have the
information that he was under the influence at the time
of the incident as well as prior. So yes, he

(08:12):
should be charged with the federal crime relying on that
gun for him to purchase. But in the good Biden's kid,
you'll see it again washed away.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Well and to go.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
And I mean we're jumping way down the path here
on this, But was there any signs during the purchase
of that firearm.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
That showed that he was a user?

Speaker 1 (08:35):
We get people walking in the door all the time
who smell like marijuana.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
We walk them right out.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Was there indicators during that purchase that were even though
he put down no, I mean, the FFL has due
diligence to look and say, Okay, if this guy comes
in drunk, I mean, obviously he's under the influence here
in this case, I'm not going to sell. Was there
indicators there that.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
That should have been picked up on? Who knows? I mean,
I don't know if we'll ever know that, but it's
worth the top.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
But this is the problem. So you have something like
this happened that could have been preventable if all this
was done. But now they go and attack the gun. Well, geez,
we'll just take guns away from everybody and then we
won't won't have an insulent like this win. All this
could have been could have been handled before. So she
also had medical diagnosis from what I've read that the
family already had that that would have Yeah, I worked

(09:24):
on the slake field for a few years and he
shouldn't have been in possession of firearms anyway, with being.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
With his Yeah, being all good stuff.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
And again I give kudos to the local media who
picked up on that and reached out and asked and
didn't jump on the bandwagon. Of just what it would
looked like on the surface.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
So so what else we got? Oh? Ed, Yes, Chicago,
you're Chicago.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Six one hundred and sixty eight people shot so far
this year, one hundred and sixty eight this year, forty
nine murdered.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Here's something, guys, and not a little step on.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
Not that I'm a little offended you call it by Chicago.
I have never been in Chicago. Plans ongoing.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Probably best to stay away at one other thing while
I'm on my high horse today.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
More juvenile crime in Columbus.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
No way you're making that out.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
At what point do we tell these politicians, these elected
officials to hit the road?

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Did you guys see the news this week? Some I'm
not gonna name all their names.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Yeah, obviously you missed the news, ed, but I'm not
gonna call them out. But they're on the news and
they're like, we need to start looking at what we
can do with the juvenile start looking.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
Start looking.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Where the heck have you been for three If you're
just starting to look now, then you need to get
your butt out of there and put someone into series.
That is absolutely that's an insult to stand there in
front of the cameras and say we're gonna start talking
to the judges about you're gonna start art. Where the
hell have you been? We need to get those people out.

(10:56):
And I guess we're empowered now with the president at
the top because the stuff people like that don't need
to be around, uh, influencing our It's ridiculous city.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
There you have it. I'm done, good string, So guys,
why don't we do this minute.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Let's back up a second. Tell me what happened on
your news. All three news stations came here to see you,
and they wanted to know what there was. The gun
bought here?

Speaker 4 (11:19):
No, that it was all that was the news, not
even gun was not purchased.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah, that's what I was kidding at.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
No, I don't know where it was purchased. Actually, I'm
not even sure if it was purchased locally. I don't No,
one never never said that. It was a block twenty
six and nothing. Nothing overly exciting.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Guys.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Let's jump to a break. When we come back, we're
going to get to some positive news. Get that at JC,
some positive news and much much. We're talking a broadcasting
life in the studios of l EPD farms arranged.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
We'll be back right after the break.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
They've been able to hear us, but they cannot see us.
We're still.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
Yeah, yeah, that's the problem.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Mhm, hey Ed, Well you know I like you.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
You know that's the problem with the camera. We're in
freeze frame?

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Is it freezing?

Speaker 3 (12:23):
We're still way behind on this thing. It's starting from
the very beginning again, but I think people can hear us,
let me know, and can you see us?

Speaker 4 (12:32):
You want to take it from the.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Start, has to show up in the beginning and said, hey, Ed,
I will tell you too on the weather.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Not bad on the weather, but we pay by the minute.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
Well, you know, if you're on the.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
Weather, happen on my phone. Your father's scratching my head
trying to deliberately screw me up. Thank you. But I
got people telling me on Facebook and texting me saying
I did a great job on the weather.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Your brothers don't count jac There are some great laid on.

Speaker 4 (13:02):
More and more news all right. Our new president, I mean,
have you ever seen a busier man than this guy?
Is just unbelievable with the executive orders that he's been
putting out. I mean, how many days has he been
in just I mean, like it's amazing. Well, he finally
did it yesterday. I don't know what time yesterday, but
February seventh, he put out another presidential executive order called

(13:26):
Protecting Second Amendment Rights. Wow by And I'm just going
to tell you what it is. It's pretty short, so
I'm going to read it to you, except for the
last section says by authority invested of me, He's President,
and by the Constitution of the Laws of the United
States of America. It is hereby ordered. Section one. Purpose

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the Second Amendment is an indispensable safeguard of security and liberty.
It has preserved the right of the American people to
protect ourselves, our families, and our freedom since the founding
of our great nation. Because it is foundation to maintaining
all other rights held by Americans, the right to keep
in bare arms must not be infringed. Yay, here, all right.

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Section two. Plan of action. Within thirty days of the
day to disorder again, which was February seven, the Attorney
General shall examine all orders, regulations, guidance plans, and international
agreements and other actions of executive departments and agencies to
assess any ongoing infringements of the Second Amendment rights of
our citizens, and present a proposed a proposed plan of

(14:35):
action to the President through the Domestic Policy Advisor to
protect Second Amendment rights of all Americans. Wow, that's a
plan of action, Okay. So in developing such a plan
of action, the Attorney General shall review, at a minimum,
all Presidential agencies actions from January of twenty one through

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February of twenty twenty five that purport to they promote safety,
but may have infringed upon the Second Amendment rights of
law abiding citizens. Also, they shall be shall look at
rules promulgated by the Department of Justice, including anybody the
ATF from January twenty one through January twenty five pertaining

(15:17):
to firearms or federal firearms licensees. All right, getting our
FFLs in there, the agency's plans, orders, and actions regarding
so called enhanced regulatory Enforcement policy that was at zero
tolerance policy pertaining to firearms and federal firearms licensees. Also,
they shall review reports and related documents issued by the

(15:41):
White House Office of Gun Violence Prevention and the positions
taken by the United States in INNY and ongoing potential
litigation that effects or could affect the ability of Americans
to exercise their Second Amendment rights.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
GC. This is huge.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
I mean the last week and I'm done, okay, real
quickly implementation upon the submission of the proposed plan of
action prescribed in the section two this Order, the Attorney
General shall work with the Domestic Policy Advisor to finalize
a plan of action and established process for implementation, just
to protect our second member.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Right.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
It's huge, It's huge.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Huge, It's huge.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
It is huge.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
It is because, I mean, you look at all the
things that this potentially touches, and a level where it
said all the things that are out there that are
called the Gun Safety Acts that had anything but that
in it.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
To review it.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
I mean, it's not to say we want it just
to wide open out there, but we have to have
some logic based policies and procedures and then we have
nothing of the sets.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
Well, the Democrats in the Less administration have done nothing
but try to just strangle any way possible the firearms
industry through banking, through the regulation, to cut them down,
through exports where we export to other countries to policemen. Nope,
can't export anything anymore.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
It's crazy, and you would think John, you would think
that the people have spoken, you know, in that the
second Amendment in firearms is kind of seeing a resurgence.
And so what did the Democrats do? What did they
if they're out there looking and saying we need to
get more in touch with the people, who did they
just elevate higher.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Up in the party this week?

Speaker 4 (17:23):
Yeah, this is what the Democrats have done.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
So it was.

Speaker 4 (17:28):
Funny not to deliver the whole thing. But you saw
these people when they were electing the head of the
Ohio Apartment not Ohio, take that back, the national Democratic
National Committee and they said, hey, there's not enough minorities,
No no, this not enough women, no, no, this not
enough transition. But they put a white male in charge
of the Democratic National Committee. And then last Saturday they

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elected a vice chair. So if this doesn't tell you
where they're heading, the vice chair of the Democratic National
Committee happens to be a gentleman named Davidge hog Hogg,
who is twenty four years old. So what does this
have to do with the gun show that we're talking
about today, Well, guess what. David Hogg, twenty four years old,

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was a student during the twenty eighteen Marjorie Stoneman Douglas
High School shooting in Parkland, Florida, the massacre of someone
else who should not have even had a gun because
he had forty seven encounters with fai police everything, and
they still let him have it. So after the gunman
attacked the school, Hogg, as I mentioned, was a student

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at the time. He co founded a group called March
for Our Lives and participated in national protests calling for
stricter gun laws that drew hundreds of thousands of followers
across the nation. So they put him in charge because
I'm grateful this twenty four year old said, I don't
take it lightly. It's time to get to work. And
what is his work. Well, he is best known for

(18:54):
pushing the Democratic Party to enforce hardline against gun right.
So here's his quotes. Just in twenty twenty three, you
have no right to a gun, he wrote, in twenty
twenty three, you are not a militia when you're talking
about your Second Amendment right. You're talking about the state's
right to have a national guard. The modern interpretation of
the Second Amendment is a ridiculous fraud pushed for decades

(19:18):
by the gun lobby. And his other quote was the
same year, he said, if you don't support banning semi
automatic rifles, you should leave the Democratic Party and join
the Guns over People Party. He wrote so, and of
course he was loudly applauded by the Minnesota governor and
former VP Tim Watts.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yeah, but anyway, they sit again.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
I mean, this is where they want to go. They
want to They chose him because they think he could
affect the youth colleges is everything. He's twenty four years old,
get out there and pumulgate the anti gun no one
should even own, according to him.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
So there you go. What a nut job they are
putting that. I mean, it's tip they don't they can't
see through the forest here. I mean they can't look
at it and say, okay, maybe we should sit down
with with you know, fellow Americans.

Speaker 4 (20:07):
He's not what they want. They want to control disarmed.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Obviously, just like just like he says, one of the
stuff you got, Jase, how about machine guns?

Speaker 4 (20:17):
This is a this is a really huge story with
much more implication than it says on the on the beginning.
All Right, so a federal judge just ruled a federal judge.
It was a district judge. His name was Judge Carlton
Reeves UH for the Southern District of Mississippi. He's also
a chair of the United States Sentencing Commission. So he's
a he's he's a big, big guy. He ruled that

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merely possessing a machine gun is not a crime, and
this was a case that was brought up Uh And
he dismissed charges against Justin Brown, a Mississippi man with
no prior criminal record, over his ownership of an unregistered
machine gun. And he found that the federal law effectively
banning the Salem possession of new production or unregistered machine

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guns is unconstitutional. He said, it's applied to Brown specific circumstances, okay.
He argued that Supreme Court's ruling in the Brewing case
required him to reach that conclusion. This is really important
because it goes beyond just the machine gun. He said, Well,
the ruling does not invalidate the law wholesale because it
just impacts the Mississippi and that person in that case.

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What it does do is create doubt about the constitutionality
applied to otherwise law abiding Americans. If other federal judges
agree with Ree's assessment, it may also help to establish
a firmer standard by which weapons are and which weapons
aren't considered in common use. And this is where it
comes into play. And if things are in common use,

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therefore are protected by the Second Amendment of the Supreme
Court's bruin of ruling. So Reeves, who was an Obama
employee appointee, he said he worked through the Brewer standard
of the case to come to this decision and his
argument that the second that the argument that the Second
Amendment doesn't protect Second Amendment rights, it just doesn't pass

(22:10):
mustard because in there the weapons that aren't protected have
to be both dangerous and unusual. So he says, basically,
you know that the Brewined decision said that for an
order for the law to be followed. The ultimate problem
with the government in the case that although machine guns
certainly are dangerous, but that does not explain how they

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are unusual. He said, machine guns are more dangerous than
the revolvers and some automatic weapons. That's no doubt about that. However,
that the dangerousness is not the end of the matter,
because firearms can be dangerous and constitutionally protected. And the
getting to the met of this here, so the government
has the burden to prove that they can't be restricted

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unless they're both dangerous and unusual. And he said in
the case that showed that there are seven hundred and
forty thousand registered machine guns in the United States, and
that sheer number alone means that they are not wow unusual,
and this could presently I think definitely, thanks are coming.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Definitely, definitely, definitely. JC leg out and up to the
bottom of hour news. When we come back, we're gonna
talk a little bit more about the news and about
new items just released, a shot show, and some exciting
announcements coming up. We're on talk about broadcasting live from
the studios of LAPD Farms Arranger, and we'll be back
right after the break. Welcome back to on talking about me.
Here's Eric doing today. My good friend big Ed to

(23:34):
my right, and my other good friend JC to my left.
We're finally up on Facebook and YouTube.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
Yes, I'm watching both of them, so just throw out
your comments.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
Let's hear it all.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Yeah and JC, So just to finish on the story
before we went into the news, Judge ruling machine guns
may not be.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
Something that has to be what I think the important
point is, Yeah, the covered machine guns and that was
this particular case, and they are only opoliges to mister Brown.
But as I mentioned before that if other judges, you know,
take a look at this sacid wait a minute to
ban them, they have to be both dangerous and unusual.
And he came down to the in the case, which

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is pretty this is pretty exciting. He argued that the
evidence showed that machine guns are far from unusual, and
they noted that over seven hundred and forty thousand machine
guns were in circulation in the United States based on
ATF data, and the government in the case did not
argue against that. They said, okay, yeah, that's kind of

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what they are. And he said, wow, that many would
make it a pool large enough to fall under Second
amendber protection because he said that seven is quote was
seven hundred and forty thousand is no small number. The
government presents no argument or explanation as to why such
a large figure is somehow not common. Therefore they fall

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under the protection of our Second Amendment rights.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Interesting, guys, A couple of things, couple random things actually
kind of up and I don't have oh, March first,
March first, I think that's a Saturday, March first, make
sure you guys are here ed. There's a show every
week unless I tell you there's not a show.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
March first, guys, is block days here at L E.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
P D.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
And it's more than just the normal block days. I
don't have the list of everything we're doing, but representative
from blocks will be here. Get to test and shoot
a bunch of different guns, giveaways, all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Going on March first.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
It's about two three weeks away, so you go so that.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Make sure you have that on your calendar. Jumping out
here is good news.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Since we're dishing out good news today, good news am sales.
We got word from one of our biggest distributors, actually
biggest manufacturers that we deal with that not only were
they keeping animal prices the same.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
For last year, which we would have been happy with.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
They dropped animal prices great and so we had and
we were talking internally here.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
We keep, you know, some of the common calibers.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
We try to stay current and we go through it
enough that if if there is EBB and flows on
what we pay, you know, we adjust the prices accordingly.
Where it comes becomes difficult is if we have so
many rounds in inventory. We buy more at a lower price.
At what point do you start dropping that price. You
have to look at cost average and stuff like that. Well,

(26:27):
we did it this week, and nine milimeter were always
pretty pretty We try to be pretty aggressive with that.
But other common calibers for rain Zamo nine or forty
forty five, three eighty thirty eight, three fifty seven, they
all came down in price. Some of them, guys, came

(26:47):
down four dollars a box. Wow wow, And that was
partly because of how our inventory was. But nonetheless, there
was a significant, significant dropping amimal prices this week here
at the store. So if it's than you've been waiting for,
now is not a bad time and hopefully smooth sailing
for the near future.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
On prices, well.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
That would be talk up.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
No, I need some forty five and I need some
three eighty eight.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (27:13):
My three eight useless less of everything than a nine
cost more.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
And I just yeah, one other thing guys too. I
don't think we mentioned this last week. We used to
be a dealer for Oakley. Uh there was a point
in time there where they allowed dealers in.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
We were a dealer. We sold some Oakley sunglasses. They
no longer allow that.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
So we have some clearance Oakley sunglasses. If you're in
the market for some sunglasses. I think we have I
don't know ten fifteen pairs left. Come that's when the
sales guys, they can show those to you.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
And what else we got. Okay, here's this one.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
Guys.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Have you guys ever gone out there and watched some
of the podcasts from Attorneys Now? I will say, Derek
to Bross, our friend good. It is a good informational podcast,
but some of those ones are you know, a little
a little boring. Well, our friend Steve Palmer has a podcast.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
It's called Lawyer.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Talkpodcast dot com and we've actually been honored a few times. Well,
we did a segment with him, probably a couple of
weeks ago. We filmed it and did it and it
was one of his interns was considering purchasing a firearm.
So we went through the process. Well, we were on
his show. We are returning the favor and here in
a couple of weeks I'm not sure the date yet,

(28:21):
they're gonna come and be on our show and we're
gonna film her coming in. Going through the process of
you know, the thought process and the process of purchasing
the gun and training and so forth. We're going to
be able to take questions, right, Yeah, absolutely, Yeah. His
podcast is really informative. It's I think he talks about,
you know, these things they don't teach in law school,
so he gets kind of down in the weeds on

(28:42):
some of this stuff. A lot of a gun related
I think that's part of a specialty. But it's always
fascinating to listen and be a part of that.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
Yeah, it really is. Last Yeah, keeping up the date
on changes of what oh definitely say because yeah, it
was a law, but it doesn't really well a difference
until a judge decides this is what it means.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
And actually I I meant to say this earlier, but
talking about friends and attorneys, Derek Debross, who specializes in
firearms related items, I spoke to him this week back
to the New Albany shooter about the pink slip, and
he said, one of the things that that's important to
note about taking away due process or taking away the

(29:20):
constitutional rights of the Second Amendment for someone is that
in Ohio and I'm going to paraphrase this, there was
something that came down several years ago a grant money
or something from the federal government given to the states
that they wanted it. That says, hey, if you put
a process in place if somebody is deemed mentally incompetent
or defective and their constitutional rights are taken away, the

(29:41):
federal government was giving money to help put a process
in place for them to get their gun rights back
if it was appropriate down the road. So maybe they had,
you know, a point of time in their life, but
now they've.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
They're better and so forth.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Ohio is not one of those states really, So he
says that part of the reason too, that this is
so important to look at somebody being adjudicated mentally defective,
especially in Ohio, is that if that happens to you,
he says his words, near impossible to get your gun
rights back at a later date. So it just goes
to show you, too, is something yet we have to

(30:15):
take serious if we're going to deem somebody mentally incompetent
and take away their rights. And maybe some people that
should be, but it's something you have to take serious
going forward.

Speaker 4 (30:23):
Yeah, I mean, I've done new stories in other states
where that has happened. Something right that happened forty years
ago when you're in college and you're charged with the
domestic dollars. We break up with a girlfriend and now
it goes to apply for a gun and they go, Nope,
you had a domestic violence and it was like college
spat and forty years ago.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
You've done news stories in other.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
States about other states.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Edward Hey, So speaking of this guy's gun of the week,
gun of the week. So we're big fans of celtech,
big fans of the KSG shotgun. How can you not
be right?

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Right?

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Well, we got something in this week. We've had it
in but it's been a while and it's sitting here
in front of us. It is a KSG and I
am not sure the name they call it, but it
looks like a typical KSG with an AT ANDH barrel,
except except you'll notice the fore end does not go
the entire way of the barrel. There is a forward

(31:17):
grip that has a built in light and the intent
of this. It has an eighteen inch barrel. So you
can come in today and purchase it. It's about the normal
price of a KSG. But if you send paperwork in
NFA paperwork for SBS short barreled shotgun, you can have
this in your possession. When you get the paperwork back,
which is actually coming back extremely quick, then you merely

(31:39):
you can have the barrel chopped down and now you
have a short barreled shotgun that is really neat, really neat.
It holds I think six. I think it holds four
and four eight. I think it holds nine rounds in
that very small package. If you take down the barrel, Yeah,
that holds.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
Obviously it's shorter, sord holds less than the standard by
you know, a couple of rounds. I'm just looking at
that now and I'm going, yeah, that does hold a
few less rounds. But boy, it's just a cool looking
If you can see it on Facebook.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
It's i mean, in what age they can see it
on Facebook? There you go and you YouTube.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
Yeah, just imagine cut off or you're right about it,
the muscle or wherever you want to cut it off,
and you can just make it shorter well.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
And the neat thing about it is it has the
built in for grip. So that has always been an
issue with especially the shorter ksgs, because as you're pumping that,
you know, any slip of your hand, it mean you
don't want it to obviously go in front of the barrel,
this one being so short that it becomes even more
into play.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
He has a flashlight building and has a flashlight.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Built right on the grip.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
Yeah, it's almost not noticeable, but that's a yeah, well boy.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
So super neat.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
It's here for sale when it's I think about the
same price as a normal KSG. So there you go
like that for the gun of guys. Let's jump to
a break, because when we come back, we're going to
talk about twenty twenty five shot show, some neat things
and so not so neat things that came out that
you may or may not want. We're all talking about
badcasting life from the studio that leave the Farmed and Ranger.
We'll be back right after the break.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
I still just want to play music one day.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
I think I want to have the people on Facebook
and YouTube comment on who does a better job at
the weather? That's all I want to know. Then, all right,
let's see it on there. Let's hear it on there?

Speaker 5 (33:18):
Eric, Yes, Eric, Eric, What she says, Eric does a
better but the weather and she doesn't count?

Speaker 1 (33:30):
What did you say, Ella? He looks better too? And
he looks better ed.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
I mean post that picture on Facebook. You can't they
hear you?

Speaker 3 (33:40):
Ella?

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Okay, they had.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
I asked, we need to take a vote, so Facebook
needs to see the photo and decide if Eric should
grow his hair out or not.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
It was a photo that was done ed here you
can he had had Oh.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
My god, huh how long ago was that?

Speaker 2 (34:05):
How long was the hair?

Speaker 4 (34:05):
How long?

Speaker 3 (34:06):
You almost kind of look like Keanu Reeves in that picture.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
See, I said, you look like a movie star.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
I know it.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
I don't know. I don't know if I can afford
waking up early to have to do my hair though.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
I know.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Well, okay, we'll see. Maybe we'll post it out there.
I don't think it was photoshop died. Yeah, guys, welcome
back to on Target. I'm hysteric joined today with Ella
at the control. You know, we don't give Ellen enough credit.
She's the one who actually pushes the buttons and gets
this thing going.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
All we do is just stand here and look good.
You give me plenty, but thanks, Yeah she does.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Really, Ella does a great job on the backside. And actually, yeah,
give you a credit where credit is fills in for
our weaknesses.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Guys.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Twenty twenty five shot show ended a few weeks ago now,
and we never really got a.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Chance to go over some of the new things. Some
of them were I think just okay.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Honestly, I was a little disappointed with with nothing exciting
coming out, But nonetheless there was a few neat things.
One of the ones we've talked about a few times
and we'll just touch upon it because for me, it's
one of my favorite things that came out the Cowtech.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
I think it's the P fifty seven jcah.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
And that we're still waiting to see our first one,
but that is the that was.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
Honestly, that was kind of the hit of the show
because it's so unusual and it's inexpensive and it's it's uh,
you know, everyone loved it because they said, no recoil.
It was an internal magazine, so there's no magazine you
can take off its internal. It holds twenty rounds of
five to seven and a super lightweight gun for inch Beryl,

(35:35):
No recoil, really neat, really really neat.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
And the.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
MSRs like three ninety nine for the thing. So they
say they're just going to get himmed with people wanting.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
This, and we already have a list of people going
here Jase Savage Arms and you touched upon it with
hic hock forty five. Last week they came out with
the twenty two lever action rifle and you would say, Okay,
everyone has it, but it looked old school. It looked
the wood on it, it looked and of neat.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
It's very very indeed, and I just you know, I'd
love to have one of these. And uh, you know,
this is the first this is the first level action
that Savage has made since the ninety nine, which the
ninety nine came out in eighteen ninety nine, but it
was all the way up. But it's it's one of
the best level actions ever ever ever made. And I'm

(36:21):
so sorry that's not making it a bit too expensive produce.
But now they have this little twenty two. Like you said,
it's old school, it's got buckhorn sights on it, although
you know you can it's kind of rounded on the
top a little bit. You have to use their proprietary
mounts if you want to put up to put a
scope on it, so you have to get their their
scope mount for it. But it's really cool.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
And now now on the other side of it, they
also announced their stance X r Why are they coming
out with them?

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Piss?

Speaker 1 (36:48):
I mean it looks like every small nine milimeter in
the cave. I don't know why.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
I mean, it's just I don't know.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
And it wasn't Internet the market everybody now with consumer
caerry being so accessible, everybody wants to make the same thing.
These micro nines as we call them, that you know,
six inches by four inches, it's pretty much the standard.
Well Cannick, that's a right. Another thing they said they
have so many back orders on that. Don't expect to
see it soon. But Cannick also came out with a

(37:16):
micro now you know, holds twelve round that comes up
the twelve and fifteen round magazine. But it looks like
every other.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
And I don't know. I personally, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
If someone walks in the door and they're asking for
a micro nine, I don't think I'm going to the
savage case.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
But just speaking of Cannic, jac did you see where
they are expanding their US production, so now they have
some US made Cannicks come going.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
Forward and what's unusual. We need to do a segment
on this on Turkish guns because everyone Turkish guns Winchester
mixed guns there, but the Cannick made this one is
made in Turkey and that we have a lot of following.
One of our former staff members here just ye war
by those and now they're gonna have a us US company,

(38:00):
so we'll be made in the good old US of A.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
We touched upon the last week with Hiccock, but Charter Arms,
who kind of known for the revolvers, came out with something.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Called the Double Dog Revolvers, so they're kind of neat.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
They're the first one out is a thirty eight three
fifty seven, but it also comes with a nine millimeters
cylinder that you can swap in and out.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
Yeah, all in one package. Look, and I've owned Charter
Arms since the seventies. They're just an underrated a gun
just because it's not a Smith or not one of
the other ones, big name guns. But they are great.
They're reliable and they're wonderful. But having that ability to
yourself under a screw sticking a new cylinder and ey
that it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Take clips right.

Speaker 4 (38:40):
A load of them. They have those little piano wire
kind of things in there, so you just slide in
and you can eject them all at the same time,
it's great walth.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
They are now saying their PDP series is now considered
their flagship handgun. But they also came out and I
think this came out before shop because I think we've
had these the author PP and thirty two with a
threaded barrel.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
This is kind of news.

Speaker 4 (39:05):
This is really really cool. That was my first carry
gun was a Walter PP. Had my choice of a
PPK or PP. It was long enough ago that they
were each ninety four dollars a piece, and and so
I took the PP because it was bigger. Well, haven't
made these since the year two thousands something like, yeah,
twenty four to twenty five years. They haven't been in existing.
It's just a little bigger. There's a PPK AS which

(39:26):
uses the PPE frame with a shorter barrel. But this
is this is really really nice and just a great
carry gun. And thirty two we just don't have a
I'm happy about that, yep.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
But oh big news. And this one is cool for
Staccato fans. But they came out with that.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
I think it's called the Staccado HD, maybe the P
four and P four and a half.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
Yeah, it's still gonna take glock mags for those for
all those fans of the Staccato product line.

Speaker 4 (39:52):
Bring your check book and maybe you have to catch
in a few stocks to get one of these. I
think it's a twenty two hundred dollars range or whatever.
But Soccado is like, you know, like up there in
the upper echelon. But the fact that it takes clockmags,
that's stuff.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
That's a great, great naw thing kind of neat.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Century Arms came out with a new partnership with John
Sharps as Sharp's Brothers to bring an upscale us AK
forty seven to the market. So there's still there's been
kind of a resurgence in AK forty seven sales for US.
I think people it's kind of cyclic at times, but
we get a lot more people looking and not looking
just at the inexpensive ones, but looking at the arsenals

(40:27):
and possibly this one when it comes out.

Speaker 4 (40:29):
But that's one thing. They've never been like the most accurate,
but there that's reliable. That's that's that reliability that all
the preppers say, Hey, if you're going to have one,
you know, get one of those.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
But but yeah, jac talk about names from the past
and Honestly, I didn't even know they were still making firearms.
Bushmaster now has come out with a couple of new
variations of ars.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
Well yeah, especially the old style things. But Bushmaster that
companies have now you know, been there. The original one
changed name one and then they sold the name to
someone and now it went to funked and now it's
out again. So I don't know who's really in charge
it's buying the name and how this is gonna come out,
but but yeah, they're back in They're back in business.

(41:11):
And I actually haven't read any of the stats before
bush Mastered before was really really you know, a top
notch gun. So we'll have to see how this one
goes now. But speaking of that, yeah, who else came
out with H and R. H and R. Harrington and
Richardson is back there offering retro of semi automatic legal

(41:34):
versions of the sixteen, So you're going to look at them.
They have the the A one and A two varieties
for all those vets who want to say, hey, let's
take a look, and you know it's got to carry
handle the whole king. But they yeah, so H and R,
so I have retro that was one of the ones
I missed earlier that they came out, but they looked really,
really cool, so I had a lot.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
Of interest Mosburg came out with that, or coming out
the five ninety RM. It's a magazine fed shotgun, you know.
In Mosburg, I feel, I mean, they've always been up
there neck and neck with kind of Remington's when you
come to some of the basy defense. But I tell you,
I don't know what the heck happened to Remington. I mean,
we we went the other day. I went to go
show a customer an eight seventy. We didn't have one

(42:14):
on the shelf. John and I went to go look.
I'm like, how did we not have on the shelf?
There's none to order. I don't know what's going on
with them.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
But eight to seven.

Speaker 4 (42:22):
We all know. The Revens have been out for two
hundred and sixteen years. I think as a company, the
oldest company, it folded up like Winchester did, got reorganized,
someone else bought it to retain some of the employees,
and but it just doesn't It's not the same as
the old old Remingtons. And again I was surprised. I
still even make the Model eleven hundred. I get those.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
I know, it's kind of strange.

Speaker 4 (42:44):
Really really kind of strou but the but Mosburg that's
what the army uses, I mean in the Mintary. They've
been using those for years, those five nineties and just
really really excellent shotguns. I got a few and they're Yeah,
they're great. I love them.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
Remington Amo different story. They're still come out with different things.
They came out with something a shot which I thought
was kind of interesting. They announced a new low decibel
for ten games, which you don't I mean maybe little requoil,
but low decibel. So I guess intended for the judge
or the governor or.

Speaker 4 (43:14):
Something anything in your house for defense. You better you
have your ear plugs on to be shooting a twenty
two or something, because I'm telling you it is loud inside.
So yeah, that looked really, really really good. What else?
What else did we have with that? Oh, Taris So
they're executive revolvers. You talked about a little bit about that.
They're really they're really are our top notch things are

(43:36):
really happening. And by the way, last thing, we sold
one point two million guns this last year. So the
sixty six month in a row over a mooning new
Fire and sold in the United States. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
Hey, before we go, I want to wish my brother
Dale a happy birthday. And I also want to give
it another shot. A big shout out to my friend
Lance who's going to donate his kidney to his father
next week. Wow, God bless you and good luck.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Guys. I thank you spending the time with us. Be
back next week. Let's be careful out there.