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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Something just ain't right.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
I don't know who to blame, although I have a
few ideas, but the way our judicial system is functioning
in central Ohio and specifically Franklin County is just wrong.
It does not pass the sniff test because honestly, it stinks.
As you've probably heard now, former CPD officer Adam coy Decorated,
a veteran and community servant, was sentenced to fifteen years

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to life in prison for a wrongful conviction of murder
out of an incident several years ago. Did Adam take
the life of a man who did not deserve to
die that night, of course, but there was much much
more to the story that led to the outcome that
evening in Columbus. Adam did not set out to take
a life that day. He was on routine patrol like

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any other day, protecting citizens, watching over the public, keeping
our streets safe while we slept. Adam was not in
the commission of a crime when this occurred. He was
not robbing a bank while someone lost. He was a
sworn Columbus police officer answering a call to service, and
due to unfortunate circumstances and a split second decision, where

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Adam thought his life was in jeopardy, another man lost
his life. Tragic for all sides, but not new to
the law enforcement profession in the courts. The Supreme Court
case of Graham v. Connor addressed such a scenario in
nineteen eighty nine, and it still stands as a basis
for all law enforcement actions. Due to the ever evolving

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split second decisions officers are faced to make every day,
we cannot judge an officer's actions by any means other
than what another officer faced with the same set of
facts would have reasonably done if encountering the same situation.
It does not mean the officer is not responsible for
his or her actions, but it explicitly states that a

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jury can only judge the situation as reasonable based upon
the criteria outline in this Supreme Court decision. A jury, though,
has to be told of this principle for.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
It to be applied.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
The fact that Adam Coy was convicted of murder in
Franklin County is still appalling and not right. I'm sure
an appeal will be forthcoming, But as you may remember,
our liberal prosecutors and judges in this county have run
on platforms that They're going to punish officers who I
quote succumb to the temptation to shoot people even when

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in fear for their life and the life and safety
of others. They've run on platforms wanting to fundamentally change
how the judicial system is applied in Franklin County. This
is their words, their platform that they ran on. Heck
of a platform to run on. But now we have
to face those consequences. Dateline July twenty eighth, twenty twenty five.

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Kyante Lee sentencing. Kanta Lee is like so many cases
we talk about here in the studio. He's a thug,
a dredge on society and menaced to the community and
a coward. But lucky for this criminal, he chooses Franklin
County for his reign of terror. Oh Kyante first caught,
got caught in January of twenty fifteen when he was

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charged with an F two felonious assault. I admittedly do
not know the case file on this one, but he
walked out of the court wound with the plea of
a felony of the third degree of tampering with evidence.
Three years of community control was his punishment. But now
Big Kay Lee with a convicted fellow felon, you know,

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the kind not allowed to be in possession of firearms.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
So if you do the.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Math, twenty fifteen plus three of probation, that puts him
to twenty eighteen, at which time Kiante was popped for
a felony of the third degree improper handling of firearms.
I'm sure it wasn't his, but well, he popped off
some rounds into either a building or school zone and
this time we handed to the judge Karen Phipps. She

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gave him two years in jail. Remember twenty eighteen, the
wokeness hadn't settled in yet. But wait, it gets better.
In twenty twenty four, after turning over a new leaf,
getting a second chance, Oh, Kyante Lee, Well, he found
himself in a pickle.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
I don't know the.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Details, but basically he gets in a shootout with probably
another upstanding citizen and the other guy dies.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
There is some discrepancy over what bullets actually killed the guy.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
But again, Kyante has a firearm as a felon and
is involved in criminal activitivity that is terrorizing the community.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Think about it. A man died.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
While Kyante was in the commission of a crime. He
wasn't on patrol, he wasn't trying to protect society. As
a matter of fact, he was the evil we try
to stomp out. Keyante ends up getting charged with the
following out of this incident. Aggravated murder a fellony the
first degree with a firearms specific cation, murderarm felony of

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the first degree with a firearm specification, two counts of
attempted murder f one again with firearms specifications, and also
charged with weapons under a disability because of course he
was a felon. That's a felony of the third degree
at this crime level. But Lady Luck rest firmly upon

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his shoulders because in this upside down right is wrong,
screwed up world of Franklin County justice. While he ended
up pleaning to the following an f three reckless homicide
and two counts of attempted felonious assault, both felonies of
the third degree. Guys, these are felonies, violent felonies after

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a life of crime, and other violent felonies. Now, again,
I don't know the particulars of the case. I don't
know the details, but what I know is that Keyante Lee,
this punk ass thug. Now, a convicted felon over and
over and over again should have received more than five
years of flipping community control while our officer sits in

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a prison cell for the rest of his life. Something
stinks in Franklin County and this time we start cleaning
up this stench or I guess better yet.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Just move on?

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Target is next. Good afternoon, welcome on talking to broadcasting.
We are broadcasting live from the studios of LAPD Farms
Ranging Training Facility that's located at nine nine nine Triple nine,
Bethel Road. I'm Eric with my good friends JC and
Ed sitting here today. How are you guys, good good,
good good?

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah. You know, crazy story there, crazy story.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
And I you know, I've always said my openings aren't
aren't set out there to change the world. It's it's
it's it's when it really gets frustrating for me on something,
I'm like, I got to write this down and believe
it or not. And most of the time that epiphany
occurs sometimes early in the week, I'm like, you know what,
this doesn't sound right? Well, this one. I was putting
together the show and this morning and I started to

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go over the details, I'm like, this son of a gun.
I said this, this is not right, and so this
one the reason, probably because it wasn't all polished. Today
I sat down at ten thirty and wrote it. I
mean it was I was so aggravated it. There's nothing
you know. I'm sure there's details to these cases that
you don't know. And the prosecutors might say, you know,

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we need to pleay this down because we don't have
you know, all the facts.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
But geez, guys, just.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
Look at his past history. I mean, good grief.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
I mean, you know the fact that judges can go
you know, enough to put him away.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Yeah, especially this last time.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Well, guys, we are the owners of LPED Farms, ranging
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for one hour on Saturdays, we put together a group
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Our commitment, though, has always been to bring you facts,
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help with safe, responsible ownership of firearms for customers and
our listeners. Today on the show, well, first of all,
I got to update a couple of things. Jac I
don't know if I sent this to you or not.
You know, a couple of weeks ago, we had Steven
Gatowski from the reload on I'm working out. I don't
know if I sent this to you, Ed, I'm working
out on Wednesday night and CNN I had seen or

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I had a show on and they were showing a
CNN interview with Steven. I guess his being here on
our show propelled him to the next level.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah, yeah, kind of it.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
Worked, you know, pretty well for hiccock forty five.

Speaker 4 (08:35):
Yeah, yeah, on our show once and next thing, you know,
it's almost a million followers, yes, exactly.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
The other good thing, this is super cool news. Our
good friend Louise, who was on a couple of weeks ago.
We knew at that time his wife was a week
or so away from becoming a citizen.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
He sent me a text.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Last night she is a US citizen, which is super cool.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
That is great news. Good news.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yepan guys, for today, Jayse's gonna get it started on
some news and we're gonna get to the gun of
the week Spongor by Jackson Egress, Windows, a couple of
things out there we have.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
We talked about him before super cool.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
And they kind of play into some sales were going
on now, So you're not gonna want to miss that
that's coming.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Up here shortly.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Let's see uh oh, twelve thirty, twelve thirty, And actually
I think it's going to be before them, because I
saw him walk in here. Shortly. Our good friend, Lieutenant
Brian Steele is gonna come sit with us, tell us
about some of the progress he's making here in Franklin
County on some of these cases and fighting for officers
and with a little luck, and I warmed him him.

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I gave him a little heads up. But at twelve
forty five, we might open up the phone lines, something
we haven't done for about one hundred shows.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
So you could call.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
In, ask about suppressors, ask how Ed keeps his girly figure,
or ask Lieutenant Steele about stuff going on here in
the city. All those are fair game. In right, everything's
fair game. Yeah, yep, standy heat and the hell out there?

Speaker 1 (10:01):
You go, there you go, half boy? You heard is
our good friend big Ed. You know Ed?

Speaker 2 (10:05):
As I said before, if you can't be cute, have
a cute puppy, and today you you.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
Dog introduce him to all the Facebook fans.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Oh do you okay? Okay? Perfect?

Speaker 3 (10:17):
What a handsome dog.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yes, that is makes up for a lot of fix
up for me.

Speaker 5 (10:21):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Speaking of making up for you had the opportunity to
work with your son this week in the streets. Again,
I'm convinced I don't think he's yours. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
good kid, good kid.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah. I always enjoy working with him and stuff. We
always have a good time out there. And JC to
my left, always good to see you.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Good to be seen, so j C.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
What else we got? All?

Speaker 2 (10:42):
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Speaker 1 (11:02):
We're out there, just on Target Radio show and it
will be out there. JC. Here you got some news,
I've got some new.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
First of all, I have to do a cruction from
last week that was just from information that was out
there that wasn't wasn't accurate. Last week we talked about
an unfortunate incident where a SIG actually it was the
m A team, which is the same thing as the
as the P three twenty ended up going off and
killing an airman at our Air Force base out there,

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which the report when it first came out. And again
I did this on late on Friday night, and I
reported on Saturday morning said that it was a female airman,
but it was not. And I just think this the
man's name needs to get out there. His name was
Braden Levan, who's twenty one years old, and that was
his first assignment. And if you recall the story, he
took off his holstered M eighteen, put it down on

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a table, according to the tourney the report, and after
he did that, it discharged shot him in the chest
and he was killed. So we'd like to get correct
information out there. So I'm gonna get this down. This
is amazing what is now happening day after day, all right,
So on Wednesday, SIG rejected the P three twenty safety concerns.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
As a matter of fact.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
He even says that ICE re upped its contractors. But
as they at the same time a national competition bands
the guns used. This stuff is all going around right
just this week. So again Wednesday, in the thirtieth they
released a statement saying that this rash of reports that
military units and police training facilities and private competition and

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training programs have temporary barred people. And they said, no,
we're doubling down. This gun is safe, and that is
what they said. And of course this came after the
after that incident where the where the airman was shot
in the chest and killed his own pistol, but that
was on Wednesday. On Thursday, the International Defensive Pistol Association,

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the IDPA, which is one of the absolute largest sporting
governing bodies in the United States.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
They have no barred.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
The day after their SIG statement, they have barred the
sig P three twenty from any of it shooting competitions.
And the president of the organization, Joyce Wilson, just said, look,
banning a particular firearm is the last thing we ever
want to do, but safety of our members and potential
spectators comes first, and they ban the three twenty. So
and we talked about where the SIGG said Hey, Immigration

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and Customs ICE. You know, they were rumors that they
have barred the three twenty, and we want to say that,
you know, SIGG has extended their P three twenty contract
and hold that thought just for a couple of.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Minutes, all right.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
But at the same time, on Monday, July twenty eighth,
a Houston Police officer who SIG P three twenty spontaneously
discharged what he was directing traffic on Martin Luther King
Day on January twentieth, is suing a SIG for ten
million dollars. Officer Richard Fernandez was a thirty five year

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veteran of the Houston Police Force working traffic. Parker's patrol
car exited his vehicle. He was walking towards his partner's
patrol car when he heard a muffled pop, looked down
and saw a hole in his pant leg and then
saw blood gushing from his ankle and according to the
witnesses and that he'd never touched his hole storage weapon.
He was just walking.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Across and it discharged.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
So he has a suit. This one really baffles me.
I don't know what was going on here, but a
jury and this was on the thirty first, So this
is again just a couple of days ago. On the
thirty first, a jury found that the sig P three
twenty was defectively designed. Okay, and this was in a Cambridge,

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newhamp police lawsuit. So a Cambridge police officer and his
legal team they convinced a federal jury that the sig
P three twenty was defectively designed and caused injury when
it unintentionally discharged on duty. But he won't receive a
penny in damages in this case. No, So who are

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attorneys out there? There's some strange cases out there and
this would be one of them. So the officer h
Jacques Jacques Durosier won't receive any actual, compensatory or punitive
damages after the jury sided with SIG. Now, get this
that the officer and the quote is he voluntarily and

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unreasonably used the three to two the P three two
twenty knowing that it was defective and dangerous this crisis
in the Germans report. He voluntarily used it knowing it
was defective and dangerous, and that's what the verdict form
came out, which was really kind of a surprise. But
the attorney says, well, at least. Now, this is the

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third straight time that a jury has found the P
three twenty defectively designed and whose defects costed the officers injury.
But they're not they're not giving him anything for that.
And they said, and you know all the witnesses that
was secured.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
To his belt.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
He was walking towards the police station for entrance on
in October of twenty nineteen. At no time did he
touched the trigger. He was just walking across. Unfortunately, the
bullet impacted his scrotum, then his left inner thigh and
exited through his right knee, causing a devastating injury. But

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they do anything but guess what. So the Cambridge mass use,
the police department said that they had already had four
unintended discharges after they switched to the three twenty, and
the department no longer uses the three twenty. And you
remember Iceland I just mentioned where they were that, well,
guess what. An ice officer, also on the thirty first,

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filed a lawsuit against Sigum and it was it was
kicked out before, but the US appeals lawsuit, the judge
just said, nope, this this looks legitimate because the gun
went off accidentally during training, and the judge said that
the previous judge who threw it out, they said that
he did not allow testimony about possible design flaws and

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it should have been admitted. So this ice officer was
now finding a ten million dollars suit.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Things continued to pile up with the sig P three
twenty guys that jumped to a break. On the other side,
We're going to get to a little bit more news,
a little bit of guns of the week, and coming
up surely after that, the tender Brian Steal will join us.
Wrong talk about broadcasting live from the studios of LAPD
Farms arranged. We'll be back after the break. Have you
watched that video recently? I know you probably have them
because it's probably from the nineties. It's a pretty pretty

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intent rich one.

Speaker 5 (17:58):
This one.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah, kind of cool. I've seeing it recently. Yeah, seen it, guys,
kind of neat guys, welcome back to on Target. I'm
your hysteric joined you in the LPD studios. I got
Big D to my right, I got JC and a
good friend of ours just popped on set.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Lieutenant Brian Stale, FOP president, Good to see you. Good
to see you gentlemen. Okay, see the audience is bigger
and bigger every time.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yeah you know what, and I did you. You don't
have any sweat on you for being a pelatonia. I'm impressed. Yeah,
very very good, supervisor.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Very there you go. Perfect.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Well, we'll get to Brian and some of that stuff
here shortly. But JC two of their quick things of
the news.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
Yeah, this one story. So we just talked about all
these lawsuits, you know, saying safe, safe, safe, and everyone
is dropping them and at least a lot of people
are so that you know, they said, hey too, can
play at this game.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
So uh, this week, uh, SIG sued the.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
Washington State Police Academy over there P three twenty pistol band.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
So the training academy for.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
The state for trains all their state police officers also
banned it, and so SIG said, yeah, you know it's
time to fight back.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
We're going to sue.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
So, uh, it was pretty crazy. Uh, you know, six
hour versus that the the Attorney Commission, Washington States Attorney Commission,
they're seeking to have the band reversed, claiming it it's
unnecessary and not well grounded in fact. But a judge,
County judge just a couple of matter of fact, it
was on Friday denied a petition for the gun manufacturer

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to reverse the ban of it, saying that they had
the right to do that and uh but Sig also
asked the court to muzzle the Academy's executive director for
speaking publicly about the band and why they were doing
it anyway, So anyway.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yeah, crazy crazy. Hey.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
One other things to JC that I saw it there
if you picked up on this, but England our friends
over over the time there, you know, they pretty much
ban knives because you know, because that's the enemy of everything.
And to this week actually August first, yesterday was the
official ban on ninja sword. So they've had an amnesty
period you could trade in your sword and uh yeah,

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I guess they've had a spike in stabbings here these
last couple of.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Years, go figures. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Now now in other news up in Michigan, Jay there in.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
My Yeah, this is this is well. I get my
prescriptions from him up there right my my Walmart. And
I think if you've been following, it was all over
the national news. That's a gentleman that they knew had
issues as a matter of fact, they were trying to
see him the day before and get in contact with
the guy went in and right in their check out line,
pulled out a buck one ten folding hunter. Uh, I

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have one of those, and opened it up and started
slashing people on the unfortunate thing. I mean, there are
eleven people, but I think seven rate are still in
critical condition that they're in the hospital, half men, half women,
just about and uh and what was it? Had stopped him?
A good guy with a gun? Finally yeah at that

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of course, this is Michigan. They don't want to really
talk about it. But right there they said, no, you
know that they set his son with a firearm. Finally
he got him charged his weapon. No, no, no, no,
he had him at bay. So yeah, no one wants
to get shot with anything. So he held him at
bay until the police arrived, you know, and they got there,
they said within three minutes. But as we all we say,
you know when seconds count, the police are minutes away.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Best.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
So well, you know, let's jump to the bottom of
the hour break and after the news we can get
to our good friend Lieutender Brian steal Fop Number nine
President talk about the state of our city and much
much more. We're on Talking to Broadcasting Life from the
studios of l EPD Fiarms arranged. We'll be back after
the break. Welcome back to on Talking. I'm your historic
joint today in the LPD studios. I got a big
edd to my right, I got JC and I got

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our good friend, Lieutenant Brian Steal.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Good to see it, right, good to see it, Good
to see everybody. I know, beautiful.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
I'm just appreciative that you're in here with how beautiful
it is out there.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yea, you know, always time for you guys, all right,
I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Well, Brian, I wanted to have you back in here
because you always not only have a depulse on what's
going on in the city with law enforcement andjudicial system,
but you, you know, you do so much more than
just standing out there and calling out some of the issues,
but you kind of get to the solutions.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
And so I wanted to go over a couple of things.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
This week was a tough week with Officer Koy and
the sentencing, and then right on the heels of that,
you hear about this this kyante Lee and you're saying,
you know, what the heck is going on with our
judicial system? What to anything? Any progress on your side?
Are you seeing anything? And you making headway with these judges?

Speaker 5 (22:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (22:30):
So not every judge the same. I don't pay them
all with a broadbrush. But I've said this before. I
won't take a neal in darkness. Always a light candle
and dialogue. And I talked about this judge the other
day and I was really kind of I did not
like how it went down. This is a great attorney,
Jack Wong, very outstanding attorney, a great prosecutor, and then
Judge eyes A.

Speaker 5 (22:51):
Page.

Speaker 6 (22:51):
I've known it for a long time too, and I
didn't understand what's going on. So after I did a
new story talking about how this community control, which is
nothing more than it just seems to be out of control.
And it happened the day after we took a dedicated
police officer. We didn't give him a sweetheart deal. We
sent her to prison for life. Now this individual, we
gave this community control. So I sat down and talked

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to her, had a great conversation with Judge Page. At
the end of the day, I didn't agree with her
decision making, but the fact that she would sit down
come to the fog and talk to me. Always give
credit where credit's due. I'd like to sit down with
every common police judge, the ones that tell me to
pound sand and some may, well, they're going to be
on one side. The other ones that are going to sit
down and talk to us, I'll treat them a little
bit different.

Speaker 5 (23:33):
How did she justify her ruling on this?

Speaker 6 (23:36):
She talked about how the nobody was able to actually
put the gun in his hand during the trial, the
fact that he did not plead to the What if
he would have pled to the wood, it would have
been an automatic sentence she would have gave him. Since
he didn't and there was no evidence that he actually
had a gun in his hand. And maybe that was
just some you know, maybe the prosecutor's got to do

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a little better job. I don't know, but that's how
she came to her decision. Even so, I didn't buy it, right.
I still think he's a recipative repeat refender. And obviously
if it looks like a duck and it walks like
a duck, it's.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
A duck duck, right, I mean, in his case, even
if he didn't plead to the weapons under a disability
of being a convicted felon with the possession of firearms,
he still pled to reckless homicide. I mean, do we
at what point did he get to where felonies they
used to be? And I mean, Brian, I know you're younger,
your younger years in law enforcement as well, you can
probably you know, agree to this. If someone got a felony,

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they were going to jail for some period of time.
It might be six months, but they were. Man, if
you caught a felony, you're doing you were doing time.
That is not I mean, we're not just talking f fives,
we're talking F.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Three's and stuff on community control.

Speaker 6 (24:48):
Yeah, And when I came out, if you remember, we
used to do future indictments if if you were called
illegally with the weapon, we would do a future indictment.
About fifteen years ago, the courts decided that this was
such an egregious offense having a gun when you're prohibited
having a gun, using it a crime. There was no
more future indictments where mandatory slates and there was ten
days held. You were being held to arrayment. You weren't

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bonding out. But I don't know what changed, did the
politics change? What changed in the last fifteen years, and
all of a sudden, you have second, third, fourth, repeat
offenders with the legal weapons often stolen, often you were
never supposed to have one. You're prohibited, and you're kicked
again with sweetheart deals. Now, the judge made a good point.
She said, look, I put a lot of people in prison,
and nobody ever talks about that.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
I said, you're.

Speaker 5 (25:30):
Right, as the FLP.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
I made the joke.

Speaker 6 (25:32):
Nobody calls me every day to tell me thanks for
our pay raise and my teeth cleaning. You know, we
usually get the complaint phone calls. So I want to
give her a little bit of grace. But on my radar,
I mean, these judges are on my radar by name
now and I'm just continuing to look at them. There's
a bigger problem than I imagine. There's a problem with bail.
I thought it was going to be one or two
budd judges that are giving low bail. It's almost every

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single judge in this county who's giving obnoxiously low bail
and letting people walk. At the end of the day,
I told this judge, and I'll tell any judge, you
don't have to answer to me. You have to answer
to the community, the ones that are voting you in.
So we need to have people wake up and.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
We know that it's not They can't rest on the
laurels that oh, this is an RC thing we're bound
because you look at just North and Delaware County, it's
a completely different story. So there is a philosophical difference
or something going on here in Franklin County that we've
voted into these people and that it's causing this to happen.

Speaker 6 (26:26):
We are the judge, and I she educated me on that.
I said, will you go to a Raymond court, You
get a phone, and you go to municipal court first,
and maybe the municipal court judge gives a one million
dollar bond and then it gets dismissed and sent over
to common please, and a judge might give one hundred
thousand dollars bond. So which judge is not fulfilling their
oath their duties? One of them has to be right right,

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one has to be failing.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (26:49):
I had a scenario that falls right into play with this.
We had a subject got picked up in Columbus on
four warrants, no bond and he went, I can't think
of the judge's name, but I've been racking my brain.
But he went in front of the common Please judge
in Franklin County and the judge gave him a bond

(27:09):
and told him to report to Morrow County, and of
course he did not. So I tracked down who it was,
the judge, and I asked him, and I very respectfully. Well,
I actually spoke to his aid first, and I said,
I'm just calling because I wanted to get educated as
to how a judge will release somebody with a bond

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when the warrant is specified no bond and they were
four felony charges of possession and selling, and she said.

Speaker 5 (27:38):
Well, I don't know.

Speaker 7 (27:39):
She goes, let me, let you talk to the judge
and I could hear her in the background tell him
the judge why I was calling, and he picked up
the phone. He goes, let me tell you something. He said.
Everybody has the right to have a bond. He goes,
unless it's unless it's murder, and he sided off some
code and then he said, unless you're a common please
judge signed off on the warrant, I will give by Well,

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it's a warrant, and the judge did sign off on it,
and he hung.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Up on me.

Speaker 5 (28:06):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (28:06):
Yeah, and the guy And just recently I got another
notification the guy was picked up again by Whitehall and
he's sitting in Franklin County jail again.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
It's just crazy. We're talking to Lieutenant Brian steale ffp President.
Do you you know we talked about.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
This kind of all flying a couple of times.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
There's there's a city in Michigan and I need to
probably look up what it is, and that city it's
as much smaller a city than the city of Columbus.
That city puts out there on their Facebook page every
time they charge someone, I think, with a felony. And
then what the judge does. There's a judge given bond,
what's the outcome of that? To start to highlight these judges,
I think when the time comes when people are going
to the voting booth, they don't remember these specific cases.

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And you know, Judge Brown or people we've given grief to,
they don't remember all these things. Is there any repository
of cases we're come election time we can say, hey,
look remember this, this and this with this judge.

Speaker 6 (28:57):
So you've heard me talk a million times. I believe
even transparency every public official, whether you're a police officer,
you're a judge. We work for the public at the
end of the day, I don't think anything should not
be laid out the table for them to see. I have,
at least for the last five years, every bond from
every municipal court judge, and I have every single request
from city Attorney's at Clin's office asking for a high

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bond of five hundred thousand dollars on a DV that
involves a weapon, a felony DV strangulation. And how many
times the judge allowed that, I could tell you, out
of probably five hundred requests, there's only been a handful
where the judges honored that.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
So I'm putting this.

Speaker 6 (29:34):
All together into one big package and I'm just gonna
data dump it for the public.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Hey, just take a look, not.

Speaker 6 (29:40):
Calling them out, not saying you're right or wrong there,
just take a look, and if you like, you vote
for him. If you don't find someone else.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
And you know we talked about too offline, there was
another you know, it kind of added to all the
craziness this week. The lady's name and I don't have
her name in front of me here.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
She is the one who.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Got charged with helping the Mifflin shooter. I mean she's
helping dress them up and get wigs and stuff like that.
She gets charged and ends up pleading to an F
three Tampa ring again a felony, I mean a felony
should you know serve some type of time, But she
gets community control.

Speaker 6 (30:17):
Her name is Caitlin Melton, Caitlyn with a K, and
the judge is Carl Leavini, and I already plan on
reaching out to Carl VINNI degonnab'connor Veeley.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
And a judge.

Speaker 6 (30:25):
Guys A page offered said, Hey, if you need any help,
any resources that sit down with the judges, let me know,
and I'm gonna take her up again. I want to know, judge,
how do we have such a high profile case, someone
who hid, someone who shot at the police, shot a
police officer, and after you hit him, shot at more
police officers. How do you just now release that person?

Speaker 5 (30:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Where's that? So?

Speaker 2 (30:45):
I mean you look at that. What's the punishment for
the thug who's stealing from Marshalls down the street. If
I'm a criminal in Franklin County, I'm I'm good to go.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
I mean, I'm not worried. I'm not worried at all.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
I mean, when this is being handed out for felonies,
you know, I'm certainly not not gonna catch anything bad.

Speaker 6 (31:04):
I'm not going to face to every cop and every citizen.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Something else happened this week. I think it was this
week or the prior. I don't know if you can
talk about it or not. I think our good friends
CBD officer Spencer, I think his arbitration stuff came up.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
I don't know if so.

Speaker 6 (31:17):
The FOP supports Spencer Badger one hundred percent. We did
not think that was adjustable termination.

Speaker 5 (31:23):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (31:23):
And you've heard me talk if it's if an officer
is terminated, I don't cover bad cops. If an officer
is terminated unjustly, which I personally and professionally feel he was,
We're gonna fight for you. I'll dump every resource of
the union into it. And we had our arbitration, and
you know, I think we did very very well, very
very favoral, and I would not doubt for the for him.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
To be getting his job back soon. Wow. Good watch
for that. The one last thing too, and just I
know it.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Keep adding on to this but and I don't know
the specifics of this, but just this just goes to
show you the process in Franklin Counting right now in
the mindset, and how these things, these grand juries can
be swayed. I was talking to an officer in Central
Ohio who's involved in also involved shooting a few years back,
and he said his incident was such that the suspect

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was actively stabbing other officers caught on bodycamp. I mean,
this is pretty cut and dry. It doesn't get much
more cut and dry. So invariably it goes to the
grand jury, like it doesn't Franklin County. And because the
suspect died out of this case, and he says, well,
you know, he ended up not getting indicted. He says,
what was very scary is that two people on that

(32:34):
grand jury voted to indict him for murder out of
that That's right.

Speaker 6 (32:40):
I know at least one of the jury's had a
problem with the swat team. Make an entry into the house.
You have someone in there, someone in there, mental health challenge,
someone with a possible hostage, someone.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
With a knife. What are you supposed to do? We're
the police.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
We just leave you.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
We say, okay, just do what you gotta do.

Speaker 6 (32:56):
Calls tomorrow. At some point you have to be the
police and you have to go in to get this person,
if nothing else, to get this person the help they need.
If it's a mental health right, right, and they just
didn't understand that right.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
But that I don't know if that falls back on
the prosecutor presenting it to the grand jury?

Speaker 1 (33:10):
Is that a are they sway?

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Does this go back to what we've talked about in
the monologue, where you know, we're we're going out there
and we're punishing officers who succumbed to the temptation to
shoot people. Is that what we're seeing, because then you
bring that to the grand jury. Now this officer man,
they want to him up a cop, you know, I
don't know. I don't know if the jury instructions there
aren't such, I don't know. But there's something that's just
not right with that.

Speaker 5 (33:32):
Without a doubt, and there's something that's not right with
the coy case.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Yep, guys, let's jump you have everything. JC.

Speaker 4 (33:38):
No, I'm just yeah, I'm appalled by what our judges
are doing in this county.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
It's just it's just horrible.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Brian.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
If you don't mind. On the other side of the
break here, I was gonna bump the phone lines. We
haven't done it in about one hundred shows, so I'm
not sure how it's going to be. But if you
want to call in, if you want to ask a
question for Lieutenant Brian Steele on any of the stuff
that he deals with him and his officers daily. If
you've got a question for JC on suppressors, whatever you want.
If you want to know how ED keeps us, you know, physique,

(34:05):
whatever the question is. Six one four, eight to one, nine,
eight eighty six is the number, and you can start callin.
We're gonna jump to a break right now and on
the other side we'll take your calls. We're on talking
about breadcasting live from the studios of LAPD Firearms and Arrange.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
We'll be back after the break. Welcome back to on Target.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
I'm your host. Derek joined today the LPD studios. I
got a full crew today. We got JC to the left,
Big Ed to the right, and our good friend Lieutenant
Brian Steele sitting in between all of us.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Thanks so much for coming out again.

Speaker 5 (34:32):
Yeah, no, thank you for having me.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
As always, as we say, going into the break, we're
going about the phone line, something we don't get a
chance to do very often. So if you have a
question for anyone here, gives a call six one four
eight two one nine eight eight six. In the meantime, JC,
there is some guns of the week that we should
be talking about, because we said it last week and
it's going to continue next week. But of course sales

(34:55):
tax holiday is going on. But I don't know if
you know this, but it's the sales tax holiday right now.
So for two weeks from August first to the fourteenth,
there was no sales tax in Ohio for.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Any for any tangible item under five hundred dollars under
five hundred.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yeah, so it used to only apply to school supplies.
Now it applies to sporting goods as well. So you can,
in theory come and purchase a firearm, ammunition, whatever, as
long as it's under five hundred, no sales tax.

Speaker 5 (35:20):
I did not know that.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Now, let me sweeten the kiddy for you.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Yeah, during this two week period, we have one hundred
I've put it this morning, one hundred and eighty used
guns here. One hundred of those are under five hundred dollars.
We are giving ten percent off those used guns for
this time period. So you not only get ten percent
off to use firearm, but no sales tax. I mean
you almost have to do it. I mean, yeah, how

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to keep the lights on in here? I know, I know, outstanding?

Speaker 1 (35:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
So uh So, having said that, Jac, one of the
firearms we want to talk about today, We've mentioned it before.
They were police trays that came in Smith and Weston
forty five's with a duty holster and a mag pouch. Okay, remags, remag.
These are two point zeros. These were never fired, never fired.

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New they are after the deal. They are five hundred
dollars no sales.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Tax and no sales tax, So.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
I definitely want to come in so off of that
and then you don't pay any sales tax on it.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
There you go, what you say, and they're new and
they're just wonderful firearms.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
Jac, let's jump to the lined.

Speaker 5 (36:28):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
It looks like we have data on your all with
on target. How you doing.

Speaker 8 (36:33):
Warning you guys?

Speaker 6 (36:34):
Right?

Speaker 8 (36:34):
So I say, well, I was wanting to know you
were talking about the judge that hung up on you
when you were talking to them. Why don't the Fraternal
Order Police organize?

Speaker 5 (36:45):
Uh?

Speaker 8 (36:45):
Spread the word, go and demonstrate in front of their
house and run these line balls out of office because we'd.

Speaker 5 (36:52):
End up going to jail.

Speaker 8 (36:55):
Well, none of you, how are you going to if
you do it orderly and let people know what you're doing,
and all are putting other people's lives in danger with
are letting these slime balls out on the street, they
would write our office.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Yep, Dana, you're exactly right.

Speaker 8 (37:09):
You get these type of people who they are moral highs,
got their head in the cloud and like you don't
might elect a person you've ung up on you. They
really need to be tarred and feathered.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
I agree, Dana, thanks for the call. You know what
we've talked about that. You know, I've often said wins
our data protest. But the problem is we all have jobs.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
I don't know how you do. I mean, we would
get crucis, maybe we would get cruise.

Speaker 5 (37:36):
Doing something like that.

Speaker 7 (37:37):
They would say that is unprofessional and the our administration
would probably penalize us some way with such suspension, uh,
all the way up to possible determination. And Brian, I
bet you're going to agree with me on that, yeah,
one hundred percent.

Speaker 6 (37:53):
I mean, it's your fundamental right to protest, but we definitely,
as peace officers, active police officers, we have to really
be careful but duly not to thank you isdgment.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Yeah absolutely, Let's jump to Mary. Mary, you're on with
on target.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
How are you.

Speaker 9 (38:06):
Hi? This week I heard Mayor Ginther make a statement
in response to JD Vans about Columbus's crime numbers. The
homicide numbers are the lowest in twelve years, and I
think it was felonious assaults down in the lowest numbers
in twelve years. I wondered if you had any additional
inputs on that, or if those numbers seem to be

(38:28):
accurate or possibly. I'm also hearing reports of carjackings that
aren't getting filed by the police because they know that
the courts aren't going the judge aren't going to prosecute
him or whatever. So I wondered if you had any
extra information on that. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
Thanks, Thanks Mary, great question.

Speaker 6 (38:45):
I could tell you last night we had a three
individual shot, two rejuvenile. So if you ask them as
crime going up and down, I think they disagree it's
going down. But here's the deal with crime statistics. They
go up and down. They EBB and flow. But if
we go from one hundred and fifty murders to one
hundred and thirty murders and we celebrate, I use the
analogy that's like telling my wife, I cheated on you
fifty times last year, but only forty this year, So

(39:06):
let's go out and have a party. The fact that
the matter is violence is double. It is now than
what it was a decade ago. So it's gonna ebb
and flow. We're still not out of the woods. We
still have per capita and and a terrible homicide rate
and a terrible flowies assault rate.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
And Brian, and to your point too, I think it
is down nationwide, so which which I cringe.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
I mean, that's a good thing. I mean you want that.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
I mean we used to talk about the Chicago stats,
what they're down too. That's not a bad thing, guys.
But what I hate to see is that the mayor
will get up there and say, due to my policies,
crimes down, when I don't know that's the.

Speaker 6 (39:40):
Case, you know, And I always when they say it's down,
I say, great, what did we do?

Speaker 1 (39:45):
Because you have to explain to me.

Speaker 6 (39:46):
And if you're going to take credit for them dropping,
you better take credit for them rising, but nobody wants
to do that.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Your one hundred percent right, and it just doesn't feel
I mean statistically speaking, and you know, the murders might
be down, great, but it just doesn't. This juvenile crime
stuff that's going on, it's just it just seems to continue.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
So we'll see. We have someone else new on the
set there.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
Ed.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
You know what this is worth? You coming in now, Ed,
if you're watching out there on Facebook, let's put it
on there.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Hey, buddy Eddie, Ed, that is oh my word, he's
like you.

Speaker 5 (40:17):
Yeah, he's a sleepy guy.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
Yep. This is uh Diesel.

Speaker 5 (40:21):
Yes, Diesel. Diesel Smoke is his middle name.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Diesel Smoke has made his first appearance on the on
Target radio show.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Uh, he's a little sleepy, Ed.

Speaker 5 (40:30):
I think that's because your wife spoiled him so much.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Yes, look good. He can't even keep his eyes open.
You just got him last week. Wake up, you just
got him last week.

Speaker 5 (40:40):
I picked him up Sunday.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Yes, yeah, I think he's irritated with you now.

Speaker 7 (40:49):
Unfortunately, I had to put my other dog, my other
lab down three weeks ago, and I didn't think I
was going to get another one. But I just couldn't go,
couldn't go without the attention and the love from him.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
So apparently this wasn't a scam. I know you had
run across the couple. This was not I did run
across the one. It was a Fox red lamb. Silvers
and reds are are not very common. But that one
turned out to be a scam, unfortunately. But I'm very
happy with this one here.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
Yeah, all right, you're you're, you're, you're invited back.

Speaker 5 (41:18):
All right, good, you're invited as puppy. Now. I think
I get your wife the puppy sit for me too.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Oh yeah, well that goes without saying. JC.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
Other guns of the week that we have on the
counter and stuff, the Smith and Wesson Bodyguard three eighty
that we fell in love with recently. They just came
out with a performance center now has a compensated barrel,
a little bit longer than the last one, but still
super sleek.

Speaker 4 (41:40):
It is one of the it's one of the hottest
three eighty on the market right now.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
It's uh. Smith wasn't just hit a home run with this.

Speaker 4 (41:47):
A lot of the dealers are saying they're selling out
everything that they have. Super lightweight, super small, super thin. Yeah,
Holdstrike twelve plus one three eighty. So you know, it's
a it's an incredible gun. And this one looks I
like that the Performance Center one. Just that little extra
compensator on there keeps that.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
That leveled up.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
It's a it's a it's a great firearm.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
So I mean, for the record, Brian, if if your
wife happens to be listening, you are not buying.

Speaker 5 (42:13):
One, right, that's right, you gonna buy a puppy though. Right.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
Hey, the last the last kind of the week that
we wanted to talk about too. First time we've seen
this one. It's been out for a year, and I'm
going to butcher the model. I think it's the hk
CC nine.

Speaker 4 (42:26):
And that's the first one I've said. Just walked by
the table and I went, hey, what's that. You know,
I'm so used to seeing some of the others. But
it's the Yeah, the hk CC nine. So it's there
compact concealed carry of firearm. And actually come to that
one has a red dot on it. Yeah, uh h ks.
Now they're out there there, you know a lot. They're
a little bit more expensive than some of the others,

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but you know. That's what you get when you get
a really quality.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Right and it's here and it's for sale. Guys, stop
in and see us.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
Still tempercent off all use firearms for at least another
ten days or so. Thanks to everyone who's been listening.
Thanks to Lieutenant Brian Steele for jumping. Always good to
see you, Brian, and guys as always, as always, enjoy
the weather unless be careful out they're good.

Speaker 5 (43:08):
WHOA, what's all that huh