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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The dark will be afraid of me. Darkness has fallen
over our country. A darkness has fallen over our country.
But it is time to no longer be afraid of
the dark. We can no longer ignore the evil walking
beside us. We must embrace the light of good and
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know that it will take all of us to turn
darkness back into a blinding light that shines so bright
on this country. It is, though, only achieved, with the
good from each of us.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
We can and.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Will hold off evil. We'll keep it at bay. But
our time is now. The hour is late, and we
may never see the light again if darkness is allowed
to endure today. Today we put darkness on notice. When
we made up our shirts at the store, I put
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two things on it that were really important to me,
the gats and flag. Of course, it stems prominent in
the middle, warning those that we are docile and peaceful
by nature, but be assured, be warned that when provoked,
when treaded upon, our bite.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Will not soon be forgotten.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Above the coiled snake on the shirt are three words
that I live by.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Serve, Serve God, our Creator.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Just like Charlie Kirk and his wife pledged and lived
by protect, we have an obligation to protect our families
and to protect our fellow citizens in need and those
who cannot protect themselves. Defend, Defend this nation at all costs,
to honor our forefathers and to preserve its legacy for
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future generations.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Serve, Protect, defend.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
A darkness fell over our country this week when a
fellow citizen pledges to serve his God and commits to
a beautiful or peaceful exchange of ideas, just like our founders,
and when this man is murdered for all of us
to see, we must call out the evil on display
that day and the evil that tried to overcome us
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the days after. Evil amongst us cheering in his death,
Evil keyboard warriors sitting at home and offering to buy
a beer for the shooter. Evil in the media who
told viewers and I quote he was probably just a
MAGA supporter, just shooting his gun in the air to
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celebrate the event. Guys, this is what evil looks like.
In Congress, our elected officials on the left side of
the aisle could not even keep their tamn mouth shut
in a moment of silence for Charlie and his family.
If nothing more than just say we are better than this.
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In the assass of a fellow American will always be unacceptable.
But they could not even do that. That is what
evil looks like. Rest assured. I can't stand Schumer, Pelosi,
Harris Cobert or many of the others. I actually think
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they're pathetic Americans. But be assured, if any of them
were assassinated, I would be standing by their families, praying.
I would denounce the cowards who took them away, and
damn it, I would place my hand over my heart
in a moment of silence, because these acts are not
supposed to be what we represent. A darkness fell over
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America this week, a darkness that allowed for a graphic
video leaving no imagination, to be shared millions of times
across social media. Have we no respect for Charlie's family?
Have we no obligation to protect our own children from
seeing another person's death play out in front of us?
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And we sit here and we wonder why the youth
has mental problems? Seriously? Do we seriously not get it?
The video was horrific for the trained individual, and it
should have bothered most should have made him sick. But
we've allowed the next generation to simply be numb to
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the most horrific of acts. We've allowed it to become commonplace,
second nature. We are so dumb for a comftry claiming
to be so smart. Charlie was serving his God, protect,
protect our families, and protect fellow Americans. What the hell
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is wrong with people? A lady is brutally stabbed in public, unprovoked,
and people sit on their hands, not one, not two,
but an entire train car of people sat there as
the killer waited for his next stop so we could
get off.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Blood dripping everywhere.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
And those cowards just continued to step over the blood,
going about their business, seemingly uncaring that the killer walked
off the train at the next stop.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
The hell is wrong with people?
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Whatever happened to a moral duty to protect fellow man.
I tell you our parents and grandparents would be mortified.
They would have been appalled by the passengers on the
train that day. But this is what happens when we
let evil in the door. American hero Daniel Penny, he
did the right thing when he was faced with an
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evil thug on the subway, but evil prosecutors charged him
with murder rather than giving him a heroic medal in Columbus.
Right here, we've led a social justice attorney sue an
employee who dialed nine to one one because there was
a shoplifter in her store.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
She was calling for help, accused.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
By this evil attorney for escalating the situation that ultimately
led to the death of the suspect. Guys, she was
dialing nine to one one to get help. Not even
sure what it looks like to have hope, but I
know you better start figuring it out. You better figure
out what you want to do when you're present for
the next mass casualty event. You better have a plan
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if you find yourself at the next assassination or that
random act of violence. It's coming, guys. We must defend
this nation. People are taking notice. Just this week, we
probably had the busiest seven days here at the store
of this year because people are worried. People are taking
their own security seriously. It's hard not to mourn this week,
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But as Charlie's wife, Erica so eloquently said, we owe
it to the legacy of Charlie and to the legacy
of those before for him to carry the torch of hope.
We all must find our place in this battle. Find
how you can do your part, how you can serve
our God, how you can protect families and neighbors, and
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how you can defend this nation. We will survive because
in America, it's not a single torch that cuts through darkness,
but it's the millions of bright lights amongst us. It's
all of us together pushing back on evil. The light
of good and of hope will turn night back into day.
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And today we put the evil amongst us on notice.
We put darkness on notice that no longer are we
going to be afraid of the dark because soon, because
soon that darkness, darkness is going to be afraid of
us on targets.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Next, good afternoon, Welcome on Target.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
We're broadcasting live from the studios of LPD Firearms Range
and Training Facility. I'm your host, Eric, along with my
good buddy JC and a studio audience. Hey, hey, Jac,
it seems like it's been a year since we've sat
up here. It really, I mean, I've forgotten stories with
these last couple of weeks, just.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
I know, and I was kind of dealing with, you know,
stories that are fresh, and I started, well, what about
last week before? And there's some major issues some will
have to kind of address maybe next week. But there's
some big, big, big court cases that have head of
Harriet in the last couple of weeks. But yeah, certainly
there's always a lot going on.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Well, guys, we are the owners of LAPD Firearms Range
and Training Facility and are active in law enforcement. But
for one hour on Saturdays, we put together a group
of firearms experts to discuss new products in the market,
training tips, and all too often political topics surrounding the
Second Amendment. Our commitment, though, has always been to bring
you facts about our industry, help listeners and customers with safe,
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responsible ownership of firearms. JC is going to get started
with news shortly, but a couple of things, JAC, A
couple of just things that happened over these.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Last couple weeks.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
First of all, our good friend Lieutenant Brian Steele, FOP President,
was a victim of a crime.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Did you hear that? No, they did.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I did not hear that. No himself had his car
stolen from his home. Can you believe that? I mean,
if that doesn't epitomize what's going on in this city.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Well, it's it's crazy. Kind of reminds me of our
former police chief and someone's breaking through the police chief's
house and he shot and killed the guy. I like
that one, but I don't like this one where she
got his car.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Yeah, so it's crazy. I mean that just happens everywhere.
This isn't a City of Columbus problem. This is a
central Ohio problem. Oftentimes doesn't get enough attention. The other
thing too, I got to give a shout out to
our good friend Hiccock forty five.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Did you hear this?
Speaker 3 (09:52):
No?
Speaker 1 (09:54):
I know, jac We need to talk more so for
those who haven't heard. If you're out there and you
watch them with videos. He broke his leg last week.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Or before we did hear that?
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Okay that I heard, and not just break it, but
I guess pretty bad. I had an opportunity to catch
up with him last week and tell him we were
thinking about him. I don't know if he was out
of town or what, but he ended up in a
Cincinnati hospital. He made mentioned that, Yeah, it was I
was thinking of you guys, because apparently some of his
glasses that he had had fixed here when he was
visiting us right down the street. We're no longer fixed
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the pool now, so I'm not sure, I wish.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Him out, made the trip down just to see him wishing,
I know, seriously, and so.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
We had good wishes for him too in his speedy recovery,
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Speaker 2 (10:55):
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at twelve thirty, we.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Welcome back to the show a good friend of ours
and a huge spokesman and advocate for many, many years
for the Second Amendment. Our good friend Cam Edwards is
going to jump on with us Camon Company and his
highly successful I guess blog or web page Bearing Arms.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
What ty years was twenty years now it's doing this
and it's amazing, I mean, and I mean Bearing Arms
is a solid I mean, how many times.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Do you get stories from that?
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Like every everyday?
Speaker 1 (11:26):
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Speaker 1 (11:56):
Now after you listen to the show, not like not
during this show, but after this show, you got to
go to River's Edge because they're having their big anniversary
party today at their place twenty two years and if
you haven't seen, I had opportunity to talk to them
last week.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
If you haven't seen, their place is beautiful over there.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
In Hilliard, so gorgeous that up and a great day
to stop by after the show, after j and before
the game there before the game, joined me telling the
LAPD studios. Of course that's the voice of JC or
good good friends. Sitting to my left, man, jac I
don't know where these weeks go.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah, you know, there's just so much stuff out there,
get you know, separated but lots of stuffy of stuff.
What you got, I mean, there's federal court cases up
the yin Yang. There's uh, you know, the simple one
liners such as real quickly, we're back to over a
million guns sold and you know, we dropped for the
first time in six years, but we're back up to
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over a million guns sold, and I think that's because
of what's been happening that will go up even more.
The interesting there's good news for SIG in the fact
that the Air Force Bomber Command reinstated the SIG sour
pistol after you remember what caused it was there was
a death of an airman at an airbase in Wyoming,
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and it turns out that it was facilitated by another
airman who apparently had a reason to shoot the other airman.
So it wasn't really the fake story about the gun
being dropped. But anyway, so what they did, the Global
Air Force Global Strike Command, which is our nuclear Air force,
it's actually identified, It went and reviewed all and seventy
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of their M eighteen pistols, which is basically the SIG
P three twenty, and it found that one hundred and
ninety one of them are two point four percent of
the guns actually had an issue. What I they reinstated
everything because they said, we went through every single one
of the guns and we're going to reinstate them. But
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these one ninety one guns. This was gid to me though.
I thought they said the primary discrepancy was related to
component where Now, I don't know how often the Air
Force Command goes out and shoots the eighteen pistols. I
would not think it would be like a weekly basis
or mostly. But anyway, the most frequent issues they discovered
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were issues centered on problems with the safety lever, the
striker assembly, and the seer. I'm going so those are
those are pretty important way kind of but anyway, they
said that those were all fixable. They did it and
they have reinstated, so we'll remain to be seen. So
what's happening, Okay on some bigger stories. A lot of
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stuff on these federal courts of appeals. For example, New
Jersey passed a law, well, let's go back when the
Bruin de Soson came up the Supreme Court of the
United States that you know, they affirmed the existence of
a constitutional right to carry firearms in public for self defense.
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And it struck down a subjective may issue licensing laws
that a lot of the states had inclosing New Jersey.
But as soon as that passed, they looked at it, going, hmm,
we don't want anything to curtail our restrictions of guns
for the people in New Jersey. So they passed a
law almost immediately. They passed the legislation which required a
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three hundred thousand dollars minimum liability insurance for anybody who
was a permit holder. They quadrupled the carry permit fees
and made dozens of new sensitive places restricting it. Well,
this was actually, of course, immediately someone filed suit rightfully
so and in twenty twenty three, a US district judge,
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and I'll give her name is Remee Renee Marie boom Bumb,
and she agreed with the plaintiffs, and she issued an
junction blocking most of the state's sensitive places. I mean,
she just said, look this law they did. They said,
the purpose appears to be to prevent law of flying
citizens with the ordinary self defense needs to keep them,
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preventing them from having their Second Amendment rights right to
keep him bare arms. It is plainly unconstitutional. Well, when
it goes up the line to the Third Circuit Court
of Appeals, and the first hearings with three of course,
one was a Biden employee, one was a Obama employee appointee,
and one was not. And of course that one said, well, no,
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it's unconstitutional. But you know, the Biden and the other
appointee from Obama, they sided with the Garden state and
they reversed the lower court decision. And so now the
ruling that they had, I just love this language for them.
Not so, but they said, gee, throughout the nations history
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that people have had time and time again opted to
limit the use of firearms specific venues and the examples
of the game going back to the laws was namely
governmental and democratic functions okay, and public places akin to
fairs and markets of old. Okay. So what did they ban?
So they have banned could carry permit, carry on zeus parks, beaches, playgrounds,
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recreational facilities, libraries, museums, places that serve alcohol, entertainment facilities,
healthcare facilities, casinos, public transit, sports and youth events, and
within one hundred feet of any public gathering. And they
also upheld the laws requirement that to get a permit,
you have to have four separate character references. So that
was good. So but anyway, this just shows you what's
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happening with these states.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Incredible that this is getting through, Jacy, let's talk to
a break when we come back. I know we got
a little bit more news and twelve thirty Cam Edwards
doing this. We're on talking breadcasting life in the studios
of LPD Farms.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Arrange. We'll be back after the breaking.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
He wouldn't think that would be an opening in the guns, right, great,
seems to be needed this week though.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
You know.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
It's been a tough week.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah, a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Tough, tough couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Guys, welcome back to on Target. I'm your host, Eric.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
It's JC and I the j C and I Show today,
sitting here live at the studios of a nine ninety
nine Bethel Road. Coming up shortly is our good friend
Cam Edwards. He's going to call in at twelve thirty
after the news. But Jac, you still got a couple
of pieces of the news things.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
This this is a big one. Illinois passed what a
couple of years ago, a total band on any ar
styled along with many many others. So uh, and they
have a they have a magazine band and a modern
sporting rifle as we call them a band, And I thought,
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how could this even even go? Well, it's coming up
for a Supreme Court case, and now the Department of
Justice has requested to argue this band and this was granted.
So it's going to be the oral argument's going to
be later this month. And so now we have the
Department of Justice involved in so in overturning Illinois's gun
back it's on constitutional. So that's a good one. A
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couple other things, twenty five state attorney generals, including our
wonderful state Attorney generals ASCO just to strike down Massachusetts
non resident carry law. A guy just going down the
highway had an accident. They go, oh, it's a felony.
So they arrested him, took his gun. Felony mandatory. And
so they said, look, you know, you just can't be
doing this a visitors on interstate highways passing through your state.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
But they did.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
And twenty seven state AG's if asked the Supreme Court
to overturn the State of Washington's magazine restrictions, where they said, nope,
can have more than ten rounds of a magazine. Everyone unit.
You can't possess them, can't do anything with them. And
now twenty seven states are are supporting a Supreme Court ruling,
hopefully in the future, on our favor. But here's a
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this is a kind of a crazy one that I
just discovered because it was a couple of weeks ago.
A federal judge upholds Massachusetts or once again Massachusetts, New Jersey,
New York, and I upholds the Massachusetts new handgun roster
where Massachusetts, they say, can restrict the sale of many
common handguns so long as it doesn't ban all handguns.
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In other words, you can own them, but we are
going to tell you what you can and can't own.
And so on Friday of this Judge Denise Casper upheld
Massachusetts approve firearms roster, basically saying that we can restrict
what is being sold by licensed gun dealers because we
can regulate commerce of arms. And therefore, here's what you
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have to do. Anything that's like plastic and melts, basically,
you can't own them anymore, or you can't buy them
at a gun dealer. Some people want to buy glocks,
and some people want to buy seasy handguns, and they said, sorry,
they're not on the list. You can't do this. Here's
what you have to meet, so they dealer to legally
sell them to the public. They have to have a
minimum melting point, which is set by the state internal
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safety mechanism, tamper resistant serial numbers, childproofing features, a loaded
chamber indicator, a magazine safety disconnect. And that's good. And
handguns that meet these requirements are reviewed by the state
Secretary of Public Safety and Security for inclusion to the list.
And it's not on the list, dealers will not be
allowed to sell them. And then they said, wait, wait, wait, well,
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if you already own them, you can have them, or
you can buy them legally from for instance, as long
as it's not from a dealer, because we're going to
control what dealer is going to do.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
I mean, how outrageous to say we're going to ban
it based on the melting point.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I mean, how do you justify that, I.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Mean by being anti gun, want to take everything goes Hey,
how much stuff is made out of a plastic of sort? Well?
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Everything?
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Okay, how did let's just say that they have.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Topponder how that would stand up to bruin and.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
We will see because they just again they related to
the long stand writing keeping bear arms and commercial regulation
of firearms.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
So wow, is well that is a perfect question too
to ask for our good friend, Jim Edwards. You're going
to be coming up next, host of Cam and Company
and Bearing Arms. It's jump to the bottom of our news.
On the other side, we will welcome Cam Edwards to
the show. We're on Talking broadcasting live from the studios
of LPD Farms Arranged. We'll be back after the break.
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Welcome back to on Target. I'm Here's Derek joined today
the LAPD studio. I got JC sitting to my left,
just Jac and I here in the live studio with
a bunch of friends from the live audience. Yeah, guys,
our next guest has been advocating for the Second Amendment
for many, many years. If you haven't caught his daily podcast,
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Cam and Company, you certainly know his articles on bearing arms.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
We read them every day.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Uh and So, without any further ado, I wanted to
welcome a good friend of ours back to the show,
mister Cam Edwards.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Hey, how are you guys?
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Great? How are you sir?
Speaker 4 (22:59):
I am good, very much appreciate the invite.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Well, absolutely, it was great. I know you. Uh.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
I was able to jump on with you a couple
of weeks ago and talk about some things. So always
good to have you on. And you know, jac and
I were talking last night. I think you you might
not know this, Cam, but I think you kept John
up late until the wee hours.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
In the morning last night watching some of your podcasts.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Oh yeah, I mean it just it just happens. I
look at it and I go, wait, wait a minute,
three in the morning. I gotta get up.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I got to go to.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Bed cam between you and Hitcock forty five, John didn't
get any sleep.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Wow, that was a good company then, So I really
appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
My life's starting to wonder. What do you who are
you on there with?
Speaker 1 (23:37):
I went, oh, Cam, Yes, well I tell you what.
Cam talk about stuff changing on her dime. I was
on your show a couple weeks ago talking about kind
of the Trump two point oho slump in the state
of the industry.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Oh my, has that changed here in this last week.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
I you know, I was going to ask about that
because we know that, you know, psychologically, when people feel
you know, uncertain, right, not even fearful but when they
just feel unsettled, that one of the things that they
turn to, especially when they're really concerned about the way
society is going. I want to be able to protect myself.
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I want to be able to protect my loved ones.
And you know, it's not like we were all holding
hands and singing Kumbaya a week ago. But with the
assassination of Charlie Kirk and then the response that we
have seen from you know, so many folks on the
left celebrating his death, glorifying his death, feigning apathy, is
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the callous reaction to this. You know, I was I
was curious to see if you all had seen an
increase in gun sales as a response with people concerned about,
you know, where we are going as a country.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yeah, the last week has been probably the busiest week
we've had this year. And it's what's amazing to me,
you know, I I'm interested in the psychological part of it.
I mean, we looked, we all lived through the riots
of twenty twenty in COVID and at that time you
saw the fear in people's eyes. And at the time
you walk away from that and you think, Okay, there's
no one else out there who's going to purchase a
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gun who doesn't already have one. But this last week,
I was amazed at the number of people who came
in and we're just coming to that conclusion.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
You know what, I've been thinking for a while.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
This week it's pushed me over and it's it's interesting
to see what triggered triggers people to take that next step.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Oftentimes it is that I listen, I'm assuming Eric that
you know, you guys don't get into politics as a
counter unless the customer brings it up. But I am
assuming that most of these customers that you're seeing are conservatives.
But I'm guessing that not all of them are on
the right side of the political spectrums. Is that fair
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to say?
Speaker 1 (25:55):
It's true, But even the ones that we know that
may not we may not agree with them on a
lot of topics. At the end of the day, when
you start talking to them and joking to them, they're
in the center. You know, they might be center left
a little bit, but they're they sit in that center
and maybe guns wasn't something important to them, but now
they're starting to get it. So we can only hope
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that that continues and they see the value of it
next time we go to vote.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Absolutely, you know. And again, it's sad that it takes
events like what we saw this week to get people
thinking about their safety and the safety of their loved ones.
But I'm glad that those folks are having that conversation
with themselves, that internal dialogue, and I'm glad that they're
coming to the conclusion that, you know, I do want
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to be able to protect the people that I love.
I want to be able to protect myself. I just
I hate that we're in a position right now where
so many Americans are are justified in feeling concern for
their safety simply because of what they leave or you know,
how outspoken they are. It's just a it's a sad day.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
It is.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
And you know, the one good thing in this if
there is something that and I know you'll appreciate this
as well. The overwhelming majority of people who we saw
as first time gun buyers or people who are just
getting into it was always followed up with when's your
next class? When can I schedule a private a lesson?
So it wasn't like, you know, these people were just
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buying a gun and we were sending them off. There
were were seeing the up ticket on the other side
as well, which which is good. I mean, I think
we all want the safe, responsible gun owners.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Absolutely, it is good. And you know, again worth noting
that Ohio is a constitutional carry state, right, so these
folks don't need to get that train in order to carry.
But there's something that you know, I've said for for
years that you know, people who want to carry a
firm for personal protection, they want to be safe with
that fim. They want to be confident and comfortable carrying
(27:57):
that firearm and knowing how to use it. Right, So
we talk about training mandates, you know, again, for those
folks who are going to be carrying on a regular basis,
I don't think they need to be told, hey, go
take a class, right I think they're going to take
that initial class. They're probably going to continue training, at
least I hope that they will. Because when you are
actively carrying, when this isn't just a gun purchase as
(28:18):
sort of a symbolic thing, right, when it's not you know,
the gun is as a totem, but it's actually a
gun as a tool that I think you're going to
see exactly what you're seeing right now as people you know,
they're not just interested in walking out the door with it.
They want to know how to use that farm, they
want to know how to carry it, they want to
know how to shoot well. But again they also want
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to know how to be responsible with it too.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Absolutely, Well, there's been a ton of stuff these last
couple weeks at last the last couple months in the courts,
and I wanted to get your opinion one of the
things you and I have talked about offline and Jaz,
I mean, every week it seems like there's a news story,
there's there is a lot of judicial decisions coming down
concerning marijuana use and firearms possession. What are you see
(29:05):
in what do you see that going? Is that going
to have to make its way to the Supreme Court or
what's your gut on that?
Speaker 4 (29:11):
I think it? Well, so there are five different cases
right now, though the Supreme Court will consider in conference
that deal with Section nine twenty two G three, which
is the statute privity and unlawful users of drugs for
possessing firearms. Not all of them are marijuana cases, but
a lot of them are, right, and so yeah, I
think the Supreme Court, there's think there's a really good
(29:32):
chance that the Court is going to take up one
or more of these cases this term, and you've got
circuit court splits. I think, I think you might even
have a four way split among the various course of
appeals right now, where like the Fifth Circuit has said,
you know, there's a national tradition of banning possession while
people are actively intoxicated, but there's no national tradition of
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banning people who use intoxicated substances from only a fire.
Then you've got the Third Circuit Court of Appeals, which
is said, you know, there needs to be some sort
of dangerousness test, right Are people who use marijuana dangerous
even when they're not intoxicated? And if they, if we
can show that they are, then maybe Section nine twenty
(30:18):
two G three can can be applied. You know, across
the board, you've got other courts of appeals who have,
you know, wanted to sort of individualized dangerousness test. So
this is something that the Court's going to have to
weigh in on.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
You know.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
My personal feeling is it would be a lot better
if Congress who would have stepped up and done this
job years ago. I mean, I think no matter how
you feel about it. More than half the country is
legalized marijuana for medical use. Almost half the country is
legalized it for recreational use. So this is something that
you know, I think we are moving towards recognition as
(30:54):
a society that this is a substance that, you know,
we should treat like alcohol. Basically Congress hasn't done that though, right,
And so you've got this weird gray area where this
is legal level the state level in a lot of places,
but it's still illegal federally. The best thing to do,
I think again would have been for Congress to get
involved and instead of letting the courts try to adjudicate this.
(31:14):
So I don't know what the Court's going to do
because again, you know, second nine to twenty two G
three doesn't just apply to marijuana use. It applies to
all unlawful use of drugs, right, So I think a
lot of people would would make a distinction between let's say,
marijuana and methamphetamine, right, or marijuana and heroin. So you know,
(31:35):
is that something that the court is going to be
able to wrestle with? I again, I don't know, but
I hope. So, I mean, you know, my personal belief
is that you should not have to choose between your
right scheme mirror arms and usually marijuana to stay where
it's legal. I'm particularly interested in medical marijuana. You know,
my wife passed away from cancer earlier this year. She
(31:57):
fought that for eight years. There are a lot of
times where we were told by people, even in the
second of it's community, just don't tell anybody, right, I mean,
if she wants to have an edible to help her
with nausea, just just keep it on the down low.
I never felt really comfortable doing that, you know. I mean,
so I want people to be able to, at the
(32:19):
very least in states where this is legalized for medical use,
to be able to use this without foregoing their secondment rights.
And I hope that we get to a point where
the court will figure out a way to do that.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
I mean I'm not, you know, coming from the law
enforcement side, I guess I'm a little bit old school,
not a big on the whole marijuana usage, but from
the rights to keep in bare arms, it's hard to
argue against it when you lay it all out, especially
with a lot of these states allowing it. I mean,
it's just, you know, it's it's hard to argue that
(32:51):
that you that shouldn't be extrapolated onto being able to
own firearms. So kind of came in along that same lines.
There's a lot going on in the courts with convicted felons,
people under indictment, and we've talked about it on the
show a lot. I really I don't think I have
a problem with allowing somebody under indictment to possess a firearm.
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They're not convicted. You know, first haineous of this, and
the kind of the fallout from that, at least when
we talk to local attorneys, is that the judge can
stipulate as a condition of bond that they can't own
or possess a firearm. But as a whole, I'm not
sure that I'm bothered by allowing people under indictment to
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possess firearms.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
You know, I'm with you again, you are accused of
a crime, or at that point you've not been convicted
of a crime. But again, you know, when it goes
back to the judge being able to like I said
that as part of one of the conditions of bond. Again,
we're talking about a particularized finding of dangerousness, right, So
somebody who's under indictment for a bad check versus someone
(34:00):
who's under in diving for armed robbery. Right, those are
two very different tints of circumstances. And if that person
who's been indicted for armed robbery has a rap sheet
as long as my arm, well that might indicate first
of all, that they don't need to be out on
bond to begin with, right, that they're a danger to
the community. They should be held until trial. But that
even if they are released on bond, that that no,
(34:22):
it's not appropriate for them to possess the fire under
those circumstances. But again without that, without that individualized finding
of dangerousness, right, and that that has to be based
on facts. It can't just be based on well, you're
accused of the crime, so therefore we don't think you
should own a gun. That to me, I mean, that's
(34:42):
a really slippery slope, right, And when you start telling
people you've not been convicted, you've not been adjudicated as
mentally ill, but we're still going to take your guns
away quote unquote temporarily. That that to me is when
we're strained into no, actually, you are infringing.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
On our right.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Yeah, And again the dangerousness. I mean, that's where it
was pointed out. I thought that was it was interesting
to lead into one of the stories I was reading
was the Founding the Founding Father's era. You know, they
had the right to kill you, so taking your guns away,
you should be very happy about that. So I went
back to that. It just basically was saying that in
felonies back in those days, you were incarcerated. There was
(35:22):
no billy. They said, we're going to put you in
here this felony, taking away your guns, and you're going
to stay here till you have trial. And that's they
pointed out. Uh, one of the courts pointed out that that, hey,
you know, you should be happy because all we're doing
is taking away your firearms. So, uh, when you go
back to what the Founding Father's era or it was,
it was a lot difference. But just as you pointed out,
(35:44):
you know, writing a bad check, trying to feed your
family and and all of a sudden, no, you lose
your rights versus as you said, you know, the heroin
pusher who's caught with firearm and like yeah, we're gonna yeah,
we're gonna charge you. Yeah, this is your third time.
But yeah, go ahead and keep your guns until we
til we get up.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Here and we're talking to Mcammon Company and Bearing Arms CA.
What why does sometimes and I mean you're certainly in
this more so than I why does sometimes the Bruin
decision I almost cringe a little bit with with how
it's being uh you know interpreted. I mean, is that
(36:21):
are we is it going to need to be clarified
at some point you think?
Speaker 4 (36:25):
I mean, I think they tried to clarify and Bruin, Uh,
And we're still seeing courts just either ignored what the
Supreme Court has said, misread with the Supreme Court has
said in some cause I think intentionally misread what the
Court has said right. And so yeah, I think that
we are going to continue. There's a continuous need for
(36:47):
the Supreme Court to go back and say, look, we
meant what we said. We just saw this out of
the Third Circuit this week where uh, Third Circuit panel
basically upheld almost every gun freeze out into the state
of New Jersey, came up with post Bruin right, and
this was a two to one decision. The descending judge
were a great descent about ninety pages long, and he
(37:09):
just laid out, you know, all of these places where
guns are banned for reasons like, well, it's a crowded space,
people like to congregate there, there might be kids present.
And then he compared that to what the Supreme Court
actually said in Bruin that, look, you can't just declare
something a sensitive place because it is a public place
where people gather. And yet the Third Circuit did just
(37:32):
that right, So, yes, there is there's a serious need
for the Supreme Court to take up not only a
hardware case. I was some I'm so disappointed that they
did not take up the case out of Maryland last term,
but they have to take one of these Brewin cases,
these post Brewin cases, dealing with sensitive places, dealing with
(37:53):
the cost of applying for a carry license. You know,
in some counties in California, it costs more than two
thousand dollars to get a carry license that's good for
two years. I mean, this is a bird. There are
places where people are waiting for two years to get
their carry permit. That is absurd. And the Supreme Court
has to step in and address these these these abuses of.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Our seconmment rights. They do Kimberly rude the day that
that if Kevanah were to put the word both in
when he says you you can ban guns that are
unusual and dangerous, And now the justices are going, well,
unusually unusually, unusually dangerous, We'll just put so the mr
MSR bands simply for the fact that, yes, these are
usually dangerous, so therefore we can ban the entire classify arms.
(38:41):
And it's like, no, no, it's unusual and but nope.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Camp, we're down to about the last minute, real quick,
what's your thought. Every Town for Gun Safety, which we
know is very anti anti guns, have come out now
with a gun training program.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
That's my response. I mean I can five seconds, but yeah,
you know this is this is absurd. I'd like to
know the fire instructors that's going to go along with this.
I'll believe it when I see it, quite frankly.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Yeah, oh, they have a list of each one. You
can look at every one of their instructors and they
just look like and they expand, yeah, here's here's a
gay woman who's a teacher. Here, so this is a teacher.
I mean, they just crazy, but it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Kim, thank you, Thanks.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
Driving lessons from the Amish.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
I mean, I love that. That is That's perfect cam Cam.
Thank you so much for taking your time out of
your Saturday, for coming on. Thank you for the continued
friendship and honestly on behalf of fellow gun owners, constitutionalists,
fellow patriots. Thank you for everything you've done for over
(39:47):
twenty years in this field and for keeping us updated informed.
I mean, it's truly appreciated, and thank you, true much,
truly thank you.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
I appreciate you guys and always love talking. So anytime
you need me, I'm here for you.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
All right, thanks so much. Have a great week in
Cam you too. Guys. That up to our last break and.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
We come back. We're gonna get to the gun of
the week. We won't talk about badcasting live from the
studios of LAPD Farms and arrange. We'll be back shortly.
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Speaker 2 (40:37):
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Speaker 1 (40:45):
I think we should just do a show on Songs
to spend the records.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
So many other stations for that hit with it or
not good? Come on, you have the touch, I mean
with no touch.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
She has got the touch.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Guys. Welcome back to On Target.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
I'm here's Derek jac and I are in the LAPD studios.
Here we got a couple of guns of the week.
I'm telling you, Jc, these aren't just guns.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Of the week.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
These are deals of the wheels.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
And I hesitate because I wanted to give the shout
out previously before we started selling them, and we sold
a bunch. But I'm gonna tell you what we got
here in the final count of minutes. So these are
trades from a police department. Police guns, so as typically seen,
they were carried a lot more than they.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Were shot, oh probably qualified or twice with.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
And they are in excellent condition ultter ware. Sometimes maybe
a little dirty, but in good, really good condition. So
the first thing that's up, we have Smith and Wesson
m M P forties.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Okay it's a forty, I forget it.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
It's not the most popular thing right now, but these
but come with a duty holsters that that may or
may not mean anything to you, but they come with
a duty holster. They come with the backstraps. Most of
them do Okaya apps, three magazines, one hundred rounds of
forty JC one hundred rounds of forty. It's not just
regular forty, it's frangible forty, which is even more expensively.
(42:10):
Oh that package JC three nineteen.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
Three hundred and nineteen bucks three nineteen.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
We had so many people walking in the door this
week saying, I'm just here a looker rat.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
What let me take one of those? Yeah, they let
me tell you the other deal.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Oh, the other deal was really really good.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Police trades Smith and Wesson shields. We don't see the
compacts the carry guns often on police trades, but this
agency purchased these for their officers to carry his back
up and off duty. They're Smith and Wesson shield forties.
Most of them have two mags. A few of them
have boxes one hundred rounds of ammo with a JC
one hundred rounds of fringe of ammo alongside of it.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
To nineteen two hundred and nineteen bucks. I mean, even
if you have a lot, it's like, wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
This is just two nineteen.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
I can't see a reason not the one.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
Yeah, and we like I said, we've sold a bunch.
There's probably still I don't know, fifteen of each year
or something like that. But certainly if you're in the market,
even if you're not in the market, Why JC, I
see our crowd getting up going to the counter here,
I don't know, but seriously, they are really good deals,
especially with one hundred rounds of them, and.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
They're basically like now, like you said, there may be surfacewaar,
but I guarantee these these forty backups have not been
fired more than absolutely required, which maybe fifty rounds in
a year or something like that. Yeah, I'm a great, great, great,
great deal.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
Guys, Thanks for spending the last hour with us. I
want to give a shout out to a couple of
guests coming up next week. Derek Debross it's going to
come to sit with us. Yeah, talk about getting your
gun rights back if that's something that you've had taken
away due to legal issues in the past. There is
under this administration, it looks like there's going to be
the ability to do that, a process in place, and
Derek is the one who's on top of that. So
(43:57):
that's something to look forward to next week. What else
Jasey jac We got and I'm not going to say
the name yet, but we got email confirmation of a guest,
a local guest coming on the show. We're working out
a date and if he comes on, it's going to
be a show.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
It's going to be it's going to be a show.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
He's local and let's just say he ain't a gun person.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
Is that Is that fair to say?
Speaker 3 (44:22):
That would be a big fig I am.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
I am going to name drop this last guest. It's
still we don't have a date yet.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
But there's talk, there's chatter that mister Bill Wilson is
going to call into this show.
Speaker 3 (44:34):
We're really hoping that and that is not the anti
gun person, is not the man.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
The man guy.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
Thanks for spending the last hour with us. Thanks so
much to our good from Cam Edwards. Guys, keep the
Kirk family in your thoughts and prayers. Go out there
and fight for the freedoms of this country. If you're
going down the OSU game, be careful, pay attention to
the officers in the intersection. I will be down there
and as always, guys, as always, let's be careful out there.
The dark will be afraid of me. Darkness has fallen
over our country. A darkness has fallen over our country.
But it is time to no longer be afraid of
the dark. We can no longer ignore the evil walking
beside us. We must embrace the light of good and
(00:21):
know that it will take all of us to turn
darkness back into a blinding light that shines so bright
on this country. It is, though, only achieved, with the
good from each of us.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
We can and.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Will hold off evil. We'll keep it at bay. But
our time is now. The hour is late, and we
may never see the light again if darkness is allowed
to endure today. Today we put darkness on notice. When
we made up our shirts at the store, I put
(00:54):
two things on it that were really important to me,
the gats and flag. Of course, it stems prominent in
the middle, warning those that we are docile and peaceful
by nature, but be assured, be warned that when provoked,
when treaded upon, our bite.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Will not soon be forgotten.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Above the coiled snake on the shirt are three words
that I live by.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Serve, Serve God, our Creator.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Just like Charlie Kirk and his wife pledged and lived
by protect, we have an obligation to protect our families
and to protect our fellow citizens in need and those
who cannot protect themselves. Defend, Defend this nation at all costs,
to honor our forefathers and to preserve its legacy for
(01:47):
future generations.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Serve, Protect, defend.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
A darkness fell over our country this week when a
fellow citizen pledges to serve his God and commits to
a beautiful or peaceful exchange of ideas, just like our founders,
and when this man is murdered for all of us
to see, we must call out the evil on display
that day and the evil that tried to overcome us
(02:16):
the days after. Evil amongst us cheering in his death,
Evil keyboard warriors sitting at home and offering to buy
a beer for the shooter. Evil in the media who
told viewers and I quote he was probably just a
MAGA supporter, just shooting his gun in the air to
(02:38):
celebrate the event. Guys, this is what evil looks like.
In Congress, our elected officials on the left side of
the aisle could not even keep their tamn mouth shut
in a moment of silence for Charlie and his family.
If nothing more than just say we are better than this.
(02:59):
In the assass of a fellow American will always be unacceptable.
But they could not even do that. That is what
evil looks like. Rest assured. I can't stand Schumer, Pelosi,
Harris Cobert or many of the others. I actually think
(03:19):
they're pathetic Americans. But be assured, if any of them
were assassinated, I would be standing by their families, praying.
I would denounce the cowards who took them away, and
damn it, I would place my hand over my heart
in a moment of silence, because these acts are not
supposed to be what we represent. A darkness fell over
(03:40):
America this week, a darkness that allowed for a graphic
video leaving no imagination, to be shared millions of times
across social media. Have we no respect for Charlie's family?
Have we no obligation to protect our own children from
seeing another person's death play out in front of us?
(04:03):
And we sit here and we wonder why the youth
has mental problems? Seriously? Do we seriously not get it?
The video was horrific for the trained individual, and it
should have bothered most should have made him sick. But
we've allowed the next generation to simply be numb to
(04:25):
the most horrific of acts. We've allowed it to become commonplace,
second nature. We are so dumb for a comftry claiming
to be so smart. Charlie was serving his God, protect,
protect our families, and protect fellow Americans. What the hell
(04:47):
is wrong with people? A lady is brutally stabbed in public, unprovoked,
and people sit on their hands, not one, not two,
but an entire train car of people sat there as
the killer waited for his next stop so we could
get off.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Blood dripping everywhere.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
And those cowards just continued to step over the blood,
going about their business, seemingly uncaring that the killer walked
off the train at the next stop.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
The hell is wrong with people?
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Whatever happened to a moral duty to protect fellow man.
I tell you our parents and grandparents would be mortified.
They would have been appalled by the passengers on the
train that day. But this is what happens when we
let evil in the door. American hero Daniel Penny, he
did the right thing when he was faced with an
(05:41):
evil thug on the subway, but evil prosecutors charged him
with murder rather than giving him a heroic medal in Columbus.
Right here, we've led a social justice attorney sue an
employee who dialed nine to one one because there was
a shoplifter in her store.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
She was calling for help, accused.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
By this evil attorney for escalating the situation that ultimately
led to the death of the suspect. Guys, she was
dialing nine to one one to get help. Not even
sure what it looks like to have hope, but I
know you better start figuring it out. You better figure
out what you want to do when you're present for
the next mass casualty event. You better have a plan
(06:27):
if you find yourself at the next assassination or that
random act of violence. It's coming, guys. We must defend
this nation. People are taking notice. Just this week, we
probably had the busiest seven days here at the store
of this year because people are worried. People are taking
their own security seriously. It's hard not to mourn this week,
(06:53):
But as Charlie's wife, Erica so eloquently said, we owe
it to the legacy of Charlie and to the legacy
of those before for him to carry the torch of hope.
We all must find our place in this battle. Find
how you can do your part, how you can serve
our God, how you can protect families and neighbors, and
(07:13):
how you can defend this nation. We will survive because
in America, it's not a single torch that cuts through darkness,
but it's the millions of bright lights amongst us. It's
all of us together pushing back on evil. The light
of good and of hope will turn night back into day.
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And today we put the evil amongst us on notice.
We put darkness on notice that no longer are we
going to be afraid of the dark because soon, because
soon that darkness, darkness is going to be afraid of
us on targets.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Next, good afternoon, Welcome on Target.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
We're broadcasting live from the studios of LPD Firearms Range
and Training Facility. I'm your host, Eric, along with my
good buddy JC and a studio audience. Hey, hey, Jac,
it seems like it's been a year since we've sat
up here. It really, I mean, I've forgotten stories with
these last couple of weeks, just.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
I know, and I was kind of dealing with, you know,
stories that are fresh, and I started, well, what about
last week before? And there's some major issues some will
have to kind of address maybe next week. But there's
some big, big, big court cases that have head of
Harriet in the last couple of weeks. But yeah, certainly
there's always a lot going on.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Well, guys, we are the owners of LAPD Firearms Range
and Training Facility and are active in law enforcement. But
for one hour on Saturdays, we put together a group
of firearms experts to discuss new products in the market,
training tips, and all too often political topics surrounding the
Second Amendment. Our commitment, though, has always been to bring
you facts about our industry, help listeners and customers with safe,
(08:56):
responsible ownership of firearms. JC is going to get started
with news shortly, but a couple of things, JAC, A
couple of just things that happened over these.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Last couple weeks.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
First of all, our good friend Lieutenant Brian Steele, FOP President,
was a victim of a crime.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Did you hear that? No, they did.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I did not hear that. No himself had his car
stolen from his home. Can you believe that? I mean,
if that doesn't epitomize what's going on in this city.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Well, it's it's crazy. Kind of reminds me of our
former police chief and someone's breaking through the police chief's
house and he shot and killed the guy. I like
that one, but I don't like this one where she
got his car.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Yeah, so it's crazy. I mean that just happens everywhere.
This isn't a City of Columbus problem. This is a
central Ohio problem. Oftentimes doesn't get enough attention. The other
thing too, I got to give a shout out to
our good friend Hiccock forty five.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Did you hear this?
Speaker 3 (09:52):
No?
Speaker 1 (09:54):
I know, jac We need to talk more so for
those who haven't heard. If you're out there and you
watch them with videos. He broke his leg last week.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Or before we did hear that?
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Okay that I heard, and not just break it, but
I guess pretty bad. I had an opportunity to catch
up with him last week and tell him we were
thinking about him. I don't know if he was out
of town or what, but he ended up in a
Cincinnati hospital. He made mentioned that, Yeah, it was I
was thinking of you guys, because apparently some of his
glasses that he had had fixed here when he was
visiting us right down the street. We're no longer fixed
(10:25):
the pool now, so I'm not sure, I wish.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Him out, made the trip down just to see him wishing,
I know, seriously, and so.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
We had good wishes for him too in his speedy recovery,
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Speaker 1 (10:58):
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Speaker 2 (12:10):
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Speaker 1 (12:13):
In Hilliard, so gorgeous that up and a great day
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the game there before the game, joined me telling the
LAPD studios. Of course that's the voice of JC or
good good friends. Sitting to my left, man, jac I
don't know where these weeks go.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah, you know, there's just so much stuff out there,
get you know, separated but lots of stuffy of stuff.
What you got, I mean, there's federal court cases up
the yin Yang. There's uh, you know, the simple one
liners such as real quickly, we're back to over a
million guns sold and you know, we dropped for the
first time in six years, but we're back up to
(12:54):
over a million guns sold, and I think that's because
of what's been happening that will go up even more.
The interesting there's good news for SIG in the fact
that the Air Force Bomber Command reinstated the SIG sour
pistol after you remember what caused it was there was
a death of an airman at an airbase in Wyoming,
(13:17):
and it turns out that it was facilitated by another
airman who apparently had a reason to shoot the other airman.
So it wasn't really the fake story about the gun
being dropped. But anyway, so what they did, the Global
Air Force Global Strike Command, which is our nuclear Air force,
it's actually identified, It went and reviewed all and seventy
(13:39):
of their M eighteen pistols, which is basically the SIG
P three twenty, and it found that one hundred and
ninety one of them are two point four percent of
the guns actually had an issue. What I they reinstated
everything because they said, we went through every single one
of the guns and we're going to reinstate them. But
(14:00):
these one ninety one guns. This was gid to me though.
I thought they said the primary discrepancy was related to
component where Now, I don't know how often the Air
Force Command goes out and shoots the eighteen pistols. I
would not think it would be like a weekly basis
or mostly. But anyway, the most frequent issues they discovered
(14:21):
were issues centered on problems with the safety lever, the
striker assembly, and the seer. I'm going so those are
those are pretty important way kind of but anyway, they
said that those were all fixable. They did it and
they have reinstated, so we'll remain to be seen. So
what's happening, Okay on some bigger stories. A lot of
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stuff on these federal courts of appeals. For example, New
Jersey passed a law, well, let's go back when the
Bruin de Soson came up the Supreme Court of the
United States that you know, they affirmed the existence of
a constitutional right to carry firearms in public for self defense.
(15:07):
And it struck down a subjective may issue licensing laws
that a lot of the states had inclosing New Jersey.
But as soon as that passed, they looked at it, going, hmm,
we don't want anything to curtail our restrictions of guns
for the people in New Jersey. So they passed a
law almost immediately. They passed the legislation which required a
(15:30):
three hundred thousand dollars minimum liability insurance for anybody who
was a permit holder. They quadrupled the carry permit fees
and made dozens of new sensitive places restricting it. Well,
this was actually, of course, immediately someone filed suit rightfully
so and in twenty twenty three, a US district judge,
(15:50):
and I'll give her name is Remee Renee Marie boom Bumb,
and she agreed with the plaintiffs, and she issued an
junction blocking most of the state's sensitive places. I mean,
she just said, look this law they did. They said,
the purpose appears to be to prevent law of flying
citizens with the ordinary self defense needs to keep them,
(16:12):
preventing them from having their Second Amendment rights right to
keep him bare arms. It is plainly unconstitutional. Well, when
it goes up the line to the Third Circuit Court
of Appeals, and the first hearings with three of course,
one was a Biden employee, one was a Obama employee appointee,
and one was not. And of course that one said, well, no,
(16:35):
it's unconstitutional. But you know, the Biden and the other
appointee from Obama, they sided with the Garden state and
they reversed the lower court decision. And so now the
ruling that they had, I just love this language for them.
Not so, but they said, gee, throughout the nations history
(16:55):
that people have had time and time again opted to
limit the use of firearms specific venues and the examples
of the game going back to the laws was namely
governmental and democratic functions okay, and public places akin to
fairs and markets of old. Okay. So what did they ban?
So they have banned could carry permit, carry on zeus parks, beaches, playgrounds,
(17:20):
recreational facilities, libraries, museums, places that serve alcohol, entertainment facilities,
healthcare facilities, casinos, public transit, sports and youth events, and
within one hundred feet of any public gathering. And they
also upheld the laws requirement that to get a permit,
you have to have four separate character references. So that
was good. So but anyway, this just shows you what's
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happening with these states.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Incredible that this is getting through, Jacy, let's talk to
a break when we come back. I know we got
a little bit more news and twelve thirty Cam Edwards
doing this. We're on talking breadcasting life in the studios
of LPD Farms.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Arrange. We'll be back after the breaking.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
He wouldn't think that would be an opening in the guns, right, great,
seems to be needed this week though.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
You know.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
It's been a tough week.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah, a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Tough, tough couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Guys, welcome back to on Target. I'm your host, Eric.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
It's JC and I the j C and I Show today,
sitting here live at the studios of a nine ninety
nine Bethel Road. Coming up shortly is our good friend
Cam Edwards. He's going to call in at twelve thirty
after the news. But Jac, you still got a couple
of pieces of the news things.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
This this is a big one. Illinois passed what a
couple of years ago, a total band on any ar
styled along with many many others. So uh, and they
have a they have a magazine band and a modern
sporting rifle as we call them a band, And I thought,
(18:48):
how could this even even go? Well, it's coming up
for a Supreme Court case, and now the Department of
Justice has requested to argue this band and this was granted.
So it's going to be the oral argument's going to
be later this month. And so now we have the
Department of Justice involved in so in overturning Illinois's gun
back it's on constitutional. So that's a good one. A
(19:11):
couple other things, twenty five state attorney generals, including our
wonderful state Attorney generals ASCO just to strike down Massachusetts
non resident carry law. A guy just going down the
highway had an accident. They go, oh, it's a felony.
So they arrested him, took his gun. Felony mandatory. And
so they said, look, you know, you just can't be
doing this a visitors on interstate highways passing through your state.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
But they did.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
And twenty seven state AG's if asked the Supreme Court
to overturn the State of Washington's magazine restrictions, where they said, nope,
can have more than ten rounds of a magazine. Everyone unit.
You can't possess them, can't do anything with them. And
now twenty seven states are are supporting a Supreme Court ruling,
hopefully in the future, on our favor. But here's a
(19:58):
this is a kind of a crazy one that I
just discovered because it was a couple of weeks ago.
A federal judge upholds Massachusetts or once again Massachusetts, New Jersey,
New York, and I upholds the Massachusetts new handgun roster
where Massachusetts, they say, can restrict the sale of many
common handguns so long as it doesn't ban all handguns.
(20:18):
In other words, you can own them, but we are
going to tell you what you can and can't own.
And so on Friday of this Judge Denise Casper upheld
Massachusetts approve firearms roster, basically saying that we can restrict
what is being sold by licensed gun dealers because we
can regulate commerce of arms. And therefore, here's what you
(20:43):
have to do. Anything that's like plastic and melts, basically,
you can't own them anymore, or you can't buy them
at a gun dealer. Some people want to buy glocks,
and some people want to buy seasy handguns, and they said, sorry,
they're not on the list. You can't do this. Here's
what you have to meet, so they dealer to legally
sell them to the public. They have to have a
minimum melting point, which is set by the state internal
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safety mechanism, tamper resistant serial numbers, childproofing features, a loaded
chamber indicator, a magazine safety disconnect. And that's good. And
handguns that meet these requirements are reviewed by the state
Secretary of Public Safety and Security for inclusion to the list.
And it's not on the list, dealers will not be
allowed to sell them. And then they said, wait, wait, wait, well,
(21:27):
if you already own them, you can have them, or
you can buy them legally from for instance, as long
as it's not from a dealer, because we're going to
control what dealer is going to do.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
I mean, how outrageous to say we're going to ban
it based on the melting point.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I mean, how do you justify that, I.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Mean by being anti gun, want to take everything goes Hey,
how much stuff is made out of a plastic of sort? Well?
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Everything?
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Okay, how did let's just say that they have.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Topponder how that would stand up to bruin and.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
We will see because they just again they related to
the long stand writing keeping bear arms and commercial regulation
of firearms.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
So wow, is well that is a perfect question too
to ask for our good friend, Jim Edwards. You're going
to be coming up next, host of Cam and Company
and Bearing Arms. It's jump to the bottom of our news.
On the other side, we will welcome Cam Edwards to
the show. We're on Talking broadcasting live from the studios
of LPD Farms Arranged. We'll be back after the break.
(22:21):
Welcome back to on Target. I'm Here's Derek joined today
the LAPD studio. I got JC sitting to my left,
just Jac and I here in the live studio with
a bunch of friends from the live audience. Yeah, guys,
our next guest has been advocating for the Second Amendment
for many, many years. If you haven't caught his daily podcast,
(22:42):
Cam and Company, you certainly know his articles on bearing arms.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
We read them every day.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Uh and So, without any further ado, I wanted to
welcome a good friend of ours back to the show,
mister Cam Edwards.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Hey, how are you guys?
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Great? How are you sir?
Speaker 4 (22:59):
I am good, very much appreciate the invite.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Well, absolutely, it was great. I know you. Uh.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
I was able to jump on with you a couple
of weeks ago and talk about some things. So always
good to have you on. And you know, jac and
I were talking last night. I think you you might
not know this, Cam, but I think you kept John
up late until the wee hours.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
In the morning last night watching some of your podcasts.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Oh yeah, I mean it just it just happens. I
look at it and I go, wait, wait a minute,
three in the morning. I gotta get up.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I got to go to.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Bed cam between you and Hitcock forty five, John didn't
get any sleep.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Wow, that was a good company then, So I really
appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
My life's starting to wonder. What do you who are
you on there with?
Speaker 1 (23:37):
I went, oh, Cam, Yes, well I tell you what.
Cam talk about stuff changing on her dime. I was
on your show a couple weeks ago talking about kind
of the Trump two point oho slump in the state
of the industry.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Oh my, has that changed here in this last week.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
I you know, I was going to ask about that
because we know that, you know, psychologically, when people feel
you know, uncertain, right, not even fearful but when they
just feel unsettled, that one of the things that they
turn to, especially when they're really concerned about the way
society is going. I want to be able to protect myself.
(24:17):
I want to be able to protect my loved ones.
And you know, it's not like we were all holding
hands and singing Kumbaya a week ago. But with the
assassination of Charlie Kirk and then the response that we
have seen from you know, so many folks on the
left celebrating his death, glorifying his death, feigning apathy, is
(24:39):
the callous reaction to this. You know, I was I
was curious to see if you all had seen an
increase in gun sales as a response with people concerned about,
you know, where we are going as a country.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yeah, the last week has been probably the busiest week
we've had this year. And it's what's amazing to me,
you know, I I'm interested in the psychological part of it.
I mean, we looked, we all lived through the riots
of twenty twenty in COVID and at that time you
saw the fear in people's eyes. And at the time
you walk away from that and you think, Okay, there's
no one else out there who's going to purchase a
(25:15):
gun who doesn't already have one. But this last week,
I was amazed at the number of people who came
in and we're just coming to that conclusion.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
You know what, I've been thinking for a while.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
This week it's pushed me over and it's it's interesting
to see what triggered triggers people to take that next step.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Oftentimes it is that I listen, I'm assuming Eric that
you know, you guys don't get into politics as a
counter unless the customer brings it up. But I am
assuming that most of these customers that you're seeing are conservatives.
But I'm guessing that not all of them are on
the right side of the political spectrums. Is that fair
(25:54):
to say?
Speaker 1 (25:55):
It's true, But even the ones that we know that
may not we may not agree with them on a
lot of topics. At the end of the day, when
you start talking to them and joking to them, they're
in the center. You know, they might be center left
a little bit, but they're they sit in that center
and maybe guns wasn't something important to them, but now
they're starting to get it. So we can only hope
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that that continues and they see the value of it
next time we go to vote.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Absolutely, you know. And again, it's sad that it takes
events like what we saw this week to get people
thinking about their safety and the safety of their loved ones.
But I'm glad that those folks are having that conversation
with themselves, that internal dialogue, and I'm glad that they're
coming to the conclusion that, you know, I do want
(26:45):
to be able to protect the people that I love.
I want to be able to protect myself. I just
I hate that we're in a position right now where
so many Americans are are justified in feeling concern for
their safety simply because of what they leave or you know,
how outspoken they are. It's just a it's a sad day.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
It is.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
And you know, the one good thing in this if
there is something that and I know you'll appreciate this
as well. The overwhelming majority of people who we saw
as first time gun buyers or people who are just
getting into it was always followed up with when's your
next class? When can I schedule a private a lesson?
So it wasn't like, you know, these people were just
(27:27):
buying a gun and we were sending them off. There
were were seeing the up ticket on the other side
as well, which which is good. I mean, I think
we all want the safe, responsible gun owners.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Absolutely, it is good. And you know, again worth noting
that Ohio is a constitutional carry state, right, so these
folks don't need to get that train in order to carry.
But there's something that you know, I've said for for
years that you know, people who want to carry a
firm for personal protection, they want to be safe with
that fim. They want to be confident and comfortable carrying
(27:57):
that firearm and knowing how to use it. Right, So
we talk about training mandates, you know, again, for those
folks who are going to be carrying on a regular basis,
I don't think they need to be told, hey, go
take a class, right I think they're going to take
that initial class. They're probably going to continue training, at
least I hope that they will. Because when you are
actively carrying, when this isn't just a gun purchase as
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sort of a symbolic thing, right, when it's not you know,
the gun is as a totem, but it's actually a
gun as a tool that I think you're going to
see exactly what you're seeing right now as people you know,
they're not just interested in walking out the door with it.
They want to know how to use that farm, they
want to know how to carry it, they want to
know how to shoot well. But again they also want
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to know how to be responsible with it too.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Absolutely, Well, there's been a ton of stuff these last
couple weeks at last the last couple months in the courts,
and I wanted to get your opinion one of the
things you and I have talked about offline and Jaz,
I mean, every week it seems like there's a news story,
there's there is a lot of judicial decisions coming down
concerning marijuana use and firearms possession. What are you see
(29:05):
in what do you see that going? Is that going
to have to make its way to the Supreme Court or
what's your gut on that?
Speaker 4 (29:11):
I think it? Well, so there are five different cases
right now, though the Supreme Court will consider in conference
that deal with Section nine twenty two G three, which
is the statute privity and unlawful users of drugs for
possessing firearms. Not all of them are marijuana cases, but
a lot of them are, right, and so yeah, I
think the Supreme Court, there's think there's a really good
(29:32):
chance that the Court is going to take up one
or more of these cases this term, and you've got
circuit court splits. I think, I think you might even
have a four way split among the various course of
appeals right now, where like the Fifth Circuit has said,
you know, there's a national tradition of banning possession while
people are actively intoxicated, but there's no national tradition of
(29:56):
banning people who use intoxicated substances from only a fire.
Then you've got the Third Circuit Court of Appeals, which
is said, you know, there needs to be some sort
of dangerousness test, right Are people who use marijuana dangerous
even when they're not intoxicated? And if they, if we
can show that they are, then maybe Section nine twenty
(30:18):
two G three can can be applied. You know, across
the board, you've got other courts of appeals who have,
you know, wanted to sort of individualized dangerousness test. So
this is something that the Court's going to have to
weigh in on.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
You know.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
My personal feeling is it would be a lot better
if Congress who would have stepped up and done this
job years ago. I mean, I think no matter how
you feel about it. More than half the country is
legalized marijuana for medical use. Almost half the country is
legalized it for recreational use. So this is something that
you know, I think we are moving towards recognition as
(30:54):
a society that this is a substance that, you know,
we should treat like alcohol. Basically Congress hasn't done that though, right,
And so you've got this weird gray area where this
is legal level the state level in a lot of places,
but it's still illegal federally. The best thing to do,
I think again would have been for Congress to get
involved and instead of letting the courts try to adjudicate this.
(31:14):
So I don't know what the Court's going to do
because again, you know, second nine to twenty two G
three doesn't just apply to marijuana use. It applies to
all unlawful use of drugs, right, So I think a
lot of people would would make a distinction between let's say,
marijuana and methamphetamine, right, or marijuana and heroin. So you know,
(31:35):
is that something that the court is going to be
able to wrestle with? I again, I don't know, but
I hope. So, I mean, you know, my personal belief
is that you should not have to choose between your
right scheme mirror arms and usually marijuana to stay where
it's legal. I'm particularly interested in medical marijuana. You know,
my wife passed away from cancer earlier this year. She
(31:57):
fought that for eight years. There are a lot of
times where we were told by people, even in the
second of it's community, just don't tell anybody, right, I mean,
if she wants to have an edible to help her
with nausea, just just keep it on the down low.
I never felt really comfortable doing that, you know. I mean,
so I want people to be able to, at the
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very least in states where this is legalized for medical use,
to be able to use this without foregoing their secondment rights.
And I hope that we get to a point where
the court will figure out a way to do that.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
I mean I'm not, you know, coming from the law
enforcement side, I guess I'm a little bit old school,
not a big on the whole marijuana usage, but from
the rights to keep in bare arms, it's hard to
argue against it when you lay it all out, especially
with a lot of these states allowing it. I mean,
it's just, you know, it's it's hard to argue that
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that you that shouldn't be extrapolated onto being able to
own firearms. So kind of came in along that same lines.
There's a lot going on in the courts with convicted felons,
people under indictment, and we've talked about it on the
show a lot. I really I don't think I have
a problem with allowing somebody under indictment to possess a firearm.
(33:15):
They're not convicted. You know, first haineous of this, and
the kind of the fallout from that, at least when
we talk to local attorneys, is that the judge can
stipulate as a condition of bond that they can't own
or possess a firearm. But as a whole, I'm not
sure that I'm bothered by allowing people under indictment to
(33:35):
possess firearms.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
You know, I'm with you again, you are accused of
a crime, or at that point you've not been convicted
of a crime. But again, you know, when it goes
back to the judge being able to like I said
that as part of one of the conditions of bond. Again,
we're talking about a particularized finding of dangerousness, right, So
somebody who's under indictment for a bad check versus someone
(34:00):
who's under in diving for armed robbery. Right, those are
two very different tints of circumstances. And if that person
who's been indicted for armed robbery has a rap sheet
as long as my arm, well that might indicate first
of all, that they don't need to be out on
bond to begin with, right, that they're a danger to
the community. They should be held until trial. But that
even if they are released on bond, that that no,
(34:22):
it's not appropriate for them to possess the fire under
those circumstances. But again without that, without that individualized finding
of dangerousness, right, and that that has to be based
on facts. It can't just be based on well, you're
accused of the crime, so therefore we don't think you
should own a gun. That to me, I mean, that's
(34:42):
a really slippery slope, right, And when you start telling
people you've not been convicted, you've not been adjudicated as
mentally ill, but we're still going to take your guns
away quote unquote temporarily. That that to me is when
we're strained into no, actually, you are infringing.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
On our right.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Yeah, And again the dangerousness. I mean, that's where it
was pointed out. I thought that was it was interesting
to lead into one of the stories I was reading
was the Founding the Founding Father's era. You know, they
had the right to kill you, so taking your guns away,
you should be very happy about that. So I went
back to that. It just basically was saying that in
felonies back in those days, you were incarcerated. There was
(35:22):
no billy. They said, we're going to put you in
here this felony, taking away your guns, and you're going
to stay here till you have trial. And that's they
pointed out. Uh, one of the courts pointed out that that, hey,
you know, you should be happy because all we're doing
is taking away your firearms. So, uh, when you go
back to what the Founding Father's era or it was,
it was a lot difference. But just as you pointed out,
(35:44):
you know, writing a bad check, trying to feed your
family and and all of a sudden, no, you lose
your rights versus as you said, you know, the heroin
pusher who's caught with firearm and like yeah, we're gonna yeah,
we're gonna charge you. Yeah, this is your third time.
But yeah, go ahead and keep your guns until we
til we get up.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Here and we're talking to Mcammon Company and Bearing Arms CA.
What why does sometimes and I mean you're certainly in
this more so than I why does sometimes the Bruin
decision I almost cringe a little bit with with how
it's being uh you know interpreted. I mean, is that
(36:21):
are we is it going to need to be clarified
at some point you think?
Speaker 4 (36:25):
I mean, I think they tried to clarify and Bruin, Uh,
And we're still seeing courts just either ignored what the
Supreme Court has said, misread with the Supreme Court has
said in some cause I think intentionally misread what the
Court has said right. And so yeah, I think that
we are going to continue. There's a continuous need for
(36:47):
the Supreme Court to go back and say, look, we
meant what we said. We just saw this out of
the Third Circuit this week where uh, Third Circuit panel
basically upheld almost every gun freeze out into the state
of New Jersey, came up with post Bruin right, and
this was a two to one decision. The descending judge
were a great descent about ninety pages long, and he
(37:09):
just laid out, you know, all of these places where
guns are banned for reasons like, well, it's a crowded space,
people like to congregate there, there might be kids present.
And then he compared that to what the Supreme Court
actually said in Bruin that, look, you can't just declare
something a sensitive place because it is a public place
where people gather. And yet the Third Circuit did just
(37:32):
that right, So, yes, there is there's a serious need
for the Supreme Court to take up not only a
hardware case. I was some I'm so disappointed that they
did not take up the case out of Maryland last term,
but they have to take one of these Brewin cases,
these post Brewin cases, dealing with sensitive places, dealing with
(37:53):
the cost of applying for a carry license. You know,
in some counties in California, it costs more than two
thousand dollars to get a carry license that's good for
two years. I mean, this is a bird. There are
places where people are waiting for two years to get
their carry permit. That is absurd. And the Supreme Court
has to step in and address these these these abuses of.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Our seconmment rights. They do Kimberly rude the day that
that if Kevanah were to put the word both in
when he says you you can ban guns that are
unusual and dangerous, And now the justices are going, well,
unusually unusually, unusually dangerous, We'll just put so the mr
MSR bands simply for the fact that, yes, these are
usually dangerous, so therefore we can ban the entire classify arms.
(38:41):
And it's like, no, no, it's unusual and but nope.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Camp, we're down to about the last minute, real quick,
what's your thought. Every Town for Gun Safety, which we
know is very anti anti guns, have come out now
with a gun training program.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
That's my response. I mean I can five seconds, but yeah,
you know this is this is absurd. I'd like to
know the fire instructors that's going to go along with this.
I'll believe it when I see it, quite frankly.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Yeah, oh, they have a list of each one. You
can look at every one of their instructors and they
just look like and they expand, yeah, here's here's a
gay woman who's a teacher. Here, so this is a teacher.
I mean, they just crazy, but it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Kim, thank you, Thanks.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
Driving lessons from the Amish.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
I mean, I love that. That is That's perfect cam Cam.
Thank you so much for taking your time out of
your Saturday, for coming on. Thank you for the continued
friendship and honestly on behalf of fellow gun owners, constitutionalists,
fellow patriots. Thank you for everything you've done for over
(39:47):
twenty years in this field and for keeping us updated informed.
I mean, it's truly appreciated, and thank you, true much,
truly thank you.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
I appreciate you guys and always love talking. So anytime
you need me, I'm here for you.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
All right, thanks so much. Have a great week in
Cam you too. Guys. That up to our last break and.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
We come back. We're gonna get to the gun of
the week. We won't talk about badcasting live from the
studios of LAPD Farms and arrange. We'll be back shortly.
Out high of eighty six for the OSU game, Go
Bucks tonight, cloud's early clearing late low of sixty one
for Sunday mostly send these guys back up to eighty eight.
Currently sixty eight degrees on your severe weather station News
(40:26):
Radio six y ten WTVN.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Yeah, we will Hello.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
I think we should just do a show on Songs
to spend the records.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
So many other stations for that hit with it or
not good? Come on, you have the touch, I mean
with no touch.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
She has got the touch.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Guys. Welcome back to On Target.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
I'm here's Derek jac and I are in the LAPD studios.
Here we got a couple of guns of the week.
I'm telling you, Jc, these aren't just guns.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Of the week.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
These are deals of the wheels.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
And I hesitate because I wanted to give the shout
out previously before we started selling them, and we sold
a bunch. But I'm gonna tell you what we got
here in the final count of minutes. So these are
trades from a police department. Police guns, so as typically seen,
they were carried a lot more than they.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Were shot, oh probably qualified or twice with.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
And they are in excellent condition ultter ware. Sometimes maybe
a little dirty, but in good, really good condition. So
the first thing that's up, we have Smith and Wesson
m M P forties.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Okay it's a forty, I forget it.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
It's not the most popular thing right now, but these
but come with a duty holsters that that may or
may not mean anything to you, but they come with
a duty holster. They come with the backstraps. Most of
them do Okaya apps, three magazines, one hundred rounds of
forty JC one hundred rounds of forty. It's not just
regular forty, it's frangible forty, which is even more expensively.
(42:10):
Oh that package JC three nineteen.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
Three hundred and nineteen bucks three nineteen.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
We had so many people walking in the door this
week saying, I'm just here a looker rat.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
What let me take one of those? Yeah, they let
me tell you the other deal.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Oh, the other deal was really really good.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Police trades Smith and Wesson shields. We don't see the
compacts the carry guns often on police trades, but this
agency purchased these for their officers to carry his back
up and off duty. They're Smith and Wesson shield forties.
Most of them have two mags. A few of them
have boxes one hundred rounds of ammo with a JC
one hundred rounds of fringe of ammo alongside of it.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
To nineteen two hundred and nineteen bucks. I mean, even
if you have a lot, it's like, wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
This is just two nineteen.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
I can't see a reason not the one.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
Yeah, and we like I said, we've sold a bunch.
There's probably still I don't know, fifteen of each year
or something like that. But certainly if you're in the market,
even if you're not in the market, Why JC, I
see our crowd getting up going to the counter here,
I don't know, but seriously, they are really good deals,
especially with one hundred rounds of them, and.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
They're basically like now, like you said, there may be surfacewaar,
but I guarantee these these forty backups have not been
fired more than absolutely required, which maybe fifty rounds in
a year or something like that. Yeah, I'm a great, great, great,
great deal.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
Guys, Thanks for spending the last hour with us. I
want to give a shout out to a couple of
guests coming up next week. Derek Debross it's going to
come to sit with us. Yeah, talk about getting your
gun rights back if that's something that you've had taken
away due to legal issues in the past. There is
under this administration, it looks like there's going to be
the ability to do that, a process in place, and
Derek is the one who's on top of that. So
(43:57):
that's something to look forward to next week. What else
Jasey jac We got and I'm not going to say
the name yet, but we got email confirmation of a guest,
a local guest coming on the show. We're working out
a date and if he comes on, it's going to
be a show.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
It's going to be it's going to be a show.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
He's local and let's just say he ain't a gun person.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
Is that Is that fair to say?
Speaker 3 (44:22):
That would be a big fig I am.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
I am going to name drop this last guest. It's
still we don't have a date yet.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
But there's talk, there's chatter that mister Bill Wilson is
going to call into this show.
Speaker 3 (44:34):
We're really hoping that and that is not the anti
gun person, is not the man.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
The man guy.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
Thanks for spending the last hour with us. Thanks so
much to our good from Cam Edwards. Guys, keep the
Kirk family in your thoughts and prayers. Go out there
and fight for the freedoms of this country. If you're
going down the OSU game, be careful, pay attention to
the officers in the intersection. I will be down there
and as always, guys, as always, let's be careful out there.
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