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March 29, 2025 • 43 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Many of us have a desire to give back to
the community, share our experiences, and inspire the next generation.
But today you're going to hear from someone who took
that desire and turned it into reality, actually into a
wildly successful foundation that has touched.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Many of our youth.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Stand by for his story and Black Wing Shooting Center
is in studio today as well on Target.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
It's next. Good afternoon, Welcome on Target.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
We're broadcasting live from the studios of LAPD Firearms Range
and Training Facility that's located at nine to nine Triple
nine Bethel Road. I'm your host, Eric, and you know what,
I'm going to jump right to our guest here, Ed,
I mean right here, we have we have a representative,
not just a representative, we have part of Black Wing
Shooting Center right here with Yeah, he's one of the men.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Joe. Joe, it is so good to have you back.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
And you know what, and I want to I want
to publicly say thank you for coming into our store
buying that gun. I didn't expect that and either didn't
come expect him to come down here and buy from us.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
And you know by Ammo and all this stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
I he's got to supply his story and I'm not
going to disclose the kind of deal you gave me.
I don't you know. Okay, I just getting any that's right.
But yeah, I appreciate you having me. It's always great
to come down here and see you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah. I hope Rex and the boys up there are
okay with you coming down here.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
And yeah, they're holding it down up there. Are they
busy when I drove by, so I'm not really I'm
sure they're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Good, good good notes.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Seriously, They're always good to have you here, and we're
always so thanksful to be partnered with Black Wing on
so many fronts.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Guys.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
We are the owners of l EPD Firearms Range and
Training Facility and are active in law enforcement.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
But for one hour on.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Saturdays, we put together a group of firearm experts to
discuss new products in the market, training tips, and oftentimes
political topics surrounding the Second Amendment. Our commitment, though, has
always been to bring you the facts about our industry
and help listeners and customers with safe, responsible ownership of firearms.
I want to start off by thinking our guests from
last week, Lisa ron To Left from ABC six and
Channel twenty eight did a wonderful job digging into the

(01:55):
juvenile justice system here and of course Ron O'Brien from
jumping on with us too.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
It was good to see him both, and it was
a good show last weekend. It wasn't.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
I got to give a shout out to our friend
Chuck Douglas because the.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Model is Chuck.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Chuck is busy, Chuck is all over the airways. It's
hard for him to come in on a Saturday.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
I come in once a week, shot at Chuck and
he's not here again.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
I know, I know, but I'll tell you what.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
This week he hid paid me some kudos by replaying
the monologue during his show on Monday. You know, yeah, yeah,
so we talked about that. So thanks Chuck for that.
And always it's always good to listen to his show
if you haven't listened to his time with Blazer, and
then of course the Power Hour with Chuck himself from
six to seven every night on six to ten WTV

(02:39):
and right here on this channel, guys today, And I
also want to give remind everyone our guests from a
couple of weeks ago, Spencer Badger, the CPD officer who
was fired go out to our Facebook page. We still
have the links to his channel, and if you want
to help him and his family out, it's out there
as well on our Facebook page. Speaking of Facebook, for
some reason, and I don't know, Ed, I just hit

(03:01):
the buttons here for some reason. The live feed is
not on Facebook again, but it is up on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
That's where Ed is today talking.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
So if you typically watch on Facebook, jump over to
the YouTube side and we'll watch for you there and
Ed will interact with you there today JC JC is
going to have the news. JC is not with us,
but he is with us. How are you, JC?

Speaker 5 (03:26):
I'm close by, that's for certain. But I'm doing I'm
doing fine. Nothing like five days in the hospital to
make you feel like a new person.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
So I tell you what, it must have been a
lot of those five days. You must have been thinking
about all these stories, because I think you and I
talked for two hours last night going over some of
this stuff.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
Oh, there's just so much stuff going on, Democrat stuff
at Republican stuff. Good, so we got that mixture.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yeah, we're going to get to a lot of that
news here up shortly. Get you caught up from actually
the last couple of weeks. There's a lot of good
stuff going on. There's also a lot of stuff that's
worthwhile paying attention to going forward. But at twelve thirty
today you're going to hear from an amazing person who
started along with his wife, the Light Foundation and started
clear back in two thousand and one. And this isn't

(04:12):
your typical charity or foundation started by a former football player,
but this one, I'm telling you, it's truly remarkable. And
Joe Joking from Black Wing has some personal relationship with
the family.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Absolutely. You know, we grew up in a or we
grew up in the Dark County, similar area. Everybody back
there is pretty familiar with what he does. And then
you know, my wife and I were so blessed to
go out east and see their celebrity shootout out there,
and man, do they know how to put on a
rock and show. So we wanted to bring it back
to us. You know, I guess the Midwest.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, there you go. And so at twelve thirty we
want to talk to him and hear all about this
event that's coming up and why yeah, why ed why
we need to go out there and be up Sorry.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
Ye are you saying that you're taking us to Eric.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Here we go. We're going to be a team. I'll drive, Yeah,
I see you never include me in a drive.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
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Speaker 2 (05:16):
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Speaker 1 (05:16):
Of course River's Edge Cutlery if all your knifing needs
up there in Hilliard? Of course, black Wing Shooting Center, Joe,
what's going on in Black Wing? Anything exciting?

Speaker 3 (05:24):
As always, it seems like we're super busy. I always
got stuff going on. But the thing that I'm excited
about the most is the Ohio Clay Target League. The
high school students that are competing in clay target sports
is kicking off this week for a ten week league,
you know, followed with the state shooting in June at
Black Wings. So it's so nice to see the trap
line full of high school kids who are out there
and enjoying the shooting sports and honestly like safer than

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most of the public.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
So such an expison. We've talked about that before.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
It's amazing the number of kids that come through that program.
And I think and JC you probably remember this, I
think from a past time you were on with us.
It is something like one of the most popular sports.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
The fastest growing high school sport in the nation.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (06:04):
That's awesome, isn't It Also the most participated sport when
you consider all the people that do this.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
I can't confirm that for sure that that rings the bell.
That does sound right, but the stat that I remember
is it is the second safest sport in high school,
whether it be a club sport or you know, a
lettered sport, next to chess club.

Speaker 5 (06:25):
Wow. Wow. Yeah, chess club can get pretty dangerous.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
I remember that they edged this out.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Wow wow.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
So yeah, we really thank you guys for the partnership
and it's always always good to see here to you
here in person as well. Guys joined me today in
the studio. You heard the voice of joking from Black Wing.
Big Ed sits to my right, afternoon, Ed. I got
a couple of things, a couple a couple of little things. Again,
well I am complaining, but not towards you. This okay,

(06:55):
So a couple of things. One thing and JC, you
and I talked about this last night. It's more of
an interesting fact if you happen to see the bodycam
video of the also involved shooting this last week with
CPD and the murder suspect from Toledo, it's Cannibal the animal.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
It's kind of interesting because the individual shot at officers
through the pocket of his hoodie, and which is It
just goes to show, you know, people sometimes say, why
are you so adamant about seeing hands? Why are you
go to see the hands? Why do you go to
see the hands?

Speaker 4 (07:29):
Right?

Speaker 1 (07:30):
It epitomizes why the officers need to be able to
see someone's hands and why it can get pretty tense
there when we don't see the hands, because that's exactly
what you're concerned about, somebody in a.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Pocket like that.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
The other part that was interesting and it made me
kind of smile, you know, even though this was a
tragic event, was the individual had a revolver, and we
always talk about revolvers being able to shoot within the pocket.
I mean, there's so much versatility in through old revolver,
you know, other than not like a semi automatic, where
if you had shot it inside a pocket or clothing.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
And stuff that slide.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Chances are isn't going to cycle, but that revolver will
go off and continue to go off, and it just
goes to the testament of the durability of the revolvers.
And there's still a place and revolvers and stuff. So
I wanted to say that and the other thing too,
And I'm not I'm speaking for myself ed, but I
know you're going to chime in. I guess I'm a
little old school when it comes to law enforcement, and

(08:29):
I believe that one officers show up at a scene
that you should be looking the part, you should be
dressed properly and and earn that respect from the public
that you're there to help resolve the situation. And I
think the looks of that in any business is a
big part of that. If you show up for that
big meeting and you're sloppily dressed, somebody is not going

(08:52):
to take you as serious as the man who shows
up in the business suit all propers.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
I mean, I say, this soon's a good point.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
I mean, you're this is the first thing they see,
and they make a lot of judgment off of first appearances.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
So how the heck have we gotten to a point
in this city. We're on the scene of an officer
involved shooting, with media everywhere. Our assistant chief shows up
with dyed red hair and things that it's okay.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
I don't know, I can't I can't explain that, and
I don't want to get me started on that because
somebody might get upset.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Well, and like I said, this is our opinion, but
that is just not the respect. That people aren't going
to respect you when you show up with red hair.
And to my understanding it sometimes it's different colors red.
If you're going to be in that part, right, I
think you need to look that part. And to me,
that wasn't looking the part JC.

Speaker 5 (09:47):
Yeah, I mean I I was a little bit appalled
by that. But things have gone gone kind of downhill
as far as the qorum go. Most of the officers
look so sharp, you know, iron straight, crisp, and it's
just so impressive. But then let's see the leadership look
like they just got done from coming in clubbing. It's
not a great idea.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
I think it's a slap in the face of the
whole profession. I mean, it really is. It truly is
I mean, these were we're holding these men and women
to the highest esteem in our society and and putting
them above the rest, and and looking to them to
carry out law and order and do it in a
respectful way and to be respected. And it starts with

(10:31):
with looks. And I don't know, maybe maybe just an
old it's an age thing.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
I think that he was.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
Coming back from the tryout at the Barnman Bailey Circus.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
That would make sense. I mean, it's just it's just
a clown car. So I don't know, that's just That's
just my two cents there. Guys.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
If you missed the show, if we're still on next week,
you can catch the podcast at six to ten, WTVN,
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any place.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
You out there to catch a podcast. We are out
there typically on Facebook.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
We'll throw it out there on Facebook as well, but
definitely is going to be out there on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Here.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Actually, as we speak, JC, there is some news. What
do you have in regard to judicial updates this week?

Speaker 5 (11:12):
Yeah, there's some big things happen. The first one kind
of bothers me a little bit because of the time
frame anyway, Supreme Court Scotus is still silent on these
two major cases that we've been talking about for a
long time, the Snope case and the Ocean State Tactical case.
And I'll just cover with briefly in a second. But

(11:34):
one of them involves is the ban of semi automatic
rifles known as like the AR fifteen and all the rest.
They just a banned them so you can't have them
in that state is Maryland, and so you know, it's
the most common rifle in the United States of America,
and they just said, nope, sorry, we're banning it for

(11:54):
that case. These were first heard by the Supreme Court
in December, okay, and they meet every week. I did
not know this, but every Monday they go through all
the cases that they've had and see where they're coming
on them. Every Monday, and there's been a lot of
Mondays since early in December. We still haven't heard anything.
The Ocean State Tactical was a neighboring state. There's Maryland

(12:16):
ben on on all the rifles, and Rhode Island ban
the ownership a long and large capacity magazines over ten rounds.
I mean, you can't own them. You can't possess them.
I mean, if you got them, they want you to
throw them away, turn them in, destroy them. But it
would be illegal to even own one. These are big, big,
big cases, and still we have heard nothing. And it

(12:41):
bothers me because they could easily. They are clear, especially
banning the most popular gun in America. The Heller and
Bruin decisions, they were really specific on if a gun
is usual, and as we've always said, there's more AR
fifteens up there than there are four f one fifties,

(13:02):
and you know they're very very regular, most popular gun.
Why are they holding off on this, that's just it.
I don't understand that. So next to us coming Monday,
we'll see if they meet again. But the sad thing
was is both Heller and Bruin went through multiple conferences,
yet they made decisions on those a lot sooner than

(13:24):
they have even considering this. Snoop and Ocean State and
the Pilon Rhode Island who would banned large capaccy magazines
now just filed U this week and they are they
are considering now also banning AR fifties and semi automatic
rifles and shotguns. And it's like, wait a minute, this

(13:47):
is this is, you know, really really getting dangerous.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeahs to step up and jac They did come down
with the ruling this week though.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
That's that's interesting.

Speaker 5 (13:59):
Yeah. An interesting one is another ruling, if I guess
though favor or not favor. But the ruling was that
the Supreme Court upheld the Bureau of Alcohol to back
one Firearms Frame and Receiver rule, which this decision held
that the ATF did not exceed its authority when it

(14:21):
reclassified unfinished gun parts and kits to be regulated in
the same manner as finished firearms. And this decision makes
it a requirement for them.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
And you know what I'm all right, I mean, if
it went through the channels, it went up to the
Supreme Court, if that's the way it is, and then
and if it needs to be changed latively, then then
so be it.

Speaker 5 (14:42):
But and a quick one from the Ninth Circuit Court.
Now this came from a law the California passed in
twenty sixteen. But their Night Circuit Court, which is basically
a democratic court, upheld California's standard capacity magazine band. This was,
like I said, the law effect in twenty sixteen. And

(15:02):
what this Ninth Court it was. It was a full
Court with seven to four decision, and it held up.
Magazines are not protected by the Second Amendment because they
are not arms. Rather, they're optional accessories to firearms. So
you would call that an optional accessory. If you have
a semi automatic, it won on fire without a magazine.

(15:25):
So the judges that dissented, I was kind of surprised
at this one. I will have to mention it because
this is in his official dissent. He said, the majority
just didn't butcher the Second Amendment. It gave a judicial
middle finger to the Supreme Court. He wrote that in
his statement. Another justice was so upset he did his

(15:46):
own video as part of his descent on how to
take a semi automatic apart, what the magazine does and
how it won't work if it doesn't have one in
and to call it not an arm not protected by
the Second Amendment was not correct. So anyway, but this

(16:06):
says that'll go up to the Supreme Court again and
join stand in line. But again that's what came out
of California.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Wow, JC, Let's jump to the break and then we
come back. We get some other news, actually some good
news around town.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
And we're on broadcasting live from the studios of LPD
Farms and Range.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
We'll be back right after the break. Ella had to
bail you out. You gotta get the sponsor in there.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
Hey, my bad, that's all right, Port Instruction. That's why
Ella is there.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
Yeah, she saved me. You see me for failure.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
She always is bailing us out. Welcome back to on Talking.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
I'm your hysteric jointed in the LPD studios. I got
mister Joe King from Black Wings sitting here with us.
I have Big Ed and JC on the line. Jac
We're going to go right back to you because there
is some important news.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
I'm going to tee you up with a couple of these.
You can give some one or two liners.

Speaker 5 (16:52):
How that sounds okay, sounds good?

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Okay, Henry Arms? What are they doing, Henry Arms?

Speaker 5 (16:59):
Henry are well to quote the thing in the movie
I think it was Network where he said I'm mad
as hell. I'm not going to take it anymore. But
Henry Arms is located in New Jersey, one of the
most anti gun states, and they have committed to moving
their entire operation to Wisconsin one percent. They said it

(17:19):
makes it more efficient, more productive, but also it gets
out of the most anti one of the most anti
gun states in America. So hats off to them, great
organization and they're headed to Wisconsin.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
That's good where that is a trend we continue to see.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Ohio JC a new law is going into place within
the week or so.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
And there's two very important things.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
We got to give a tip of the hat to
some of those legislators who put it in place.

Speaker 5 (17:46):
Well, yeah, and the governor, Governor Dline for signing it.
And there are three bills that came in. He signed
all three of them back in January eighth, and they
go into fact the ninety days, which would be April
eight on the calendar. And the three bills Senate Bill
thirty two and fifty eight and one eight and Center

(18:07):
Bill thirty two. Basically, it provides civil immunity to a
person who acts in self defense and protects members and
our guests of a nonprofit and this included churches. We
have a lot of churches that have arm staff in there,
and this would provide civil immunity to anyone who acts
in self defense and protecting them. So it's a great bill.
Senate Bill fifty eight prohibits requiring a liability insurance are

(18:33):
being required to pay a fee for the possession of
a firearm. Yay, part of a firearm, its components, it's
ammunition or a knife. So that is great. Some of
these states I've said, under you you have to have
liability in church that will be prohibited as a great
state of Ohio, So hats off to that. In Setebel
one forty eight, which it's also part of the three,

(18:56):
prohibits financial institutions from tracking firearms perchase and prohibits government
entities from maintaining a registry of firearms or firearms owners
in the state of Ohio.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Jac this one's huge, this one, and Joe, I mean,
I'm sure you're familiar with this as well. This is
where the industry, the credit card industry, tried to put
on a code, an MCC code they call it, for
credit card transactions that would identify that code as being
at a specifically at a gun store. And they did
it with the premise that they're going to do their

(19:29):
due part and monitor gun transactions, which is totally false.
First of all, it's not in there, it's not even
in their purview. They shouldn't even be in that in
that world. That's why we had the ATF in the
background checks. But by doing this MCC code, it sounds
benign enough, but what it would have done was identified
people who used a credit card in a gun store.

(19:52):
They inadvertently assumed that anytime you use a credit card
in a gun stores for a gun purchase or AMO purchase,
which is totally not the case. So someone could have
gone into Black Wing and purchased holsters and a safe
and all kinds of stuff, nothing that was a firearm,
and they would flag them because it was a purchase
at a gun store. None of the specifics on what

(20:12):
a person buys gets passed along to the credit card company.
All they see is the total, and it was at
a place on that day. Furthermore, and you might say, okay,
why is that a big deal? Well, there started to
be a trend then for credit card companies to say, hey, look,
we're not going to allow you to use your credit
card with at some place that has an MCC code

(20:35):
of the firearms store.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
So we were starting.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
To see companies people would come in and their credit
card wouldn't work here, that type of thing. And then
the last part of that is all of us retailers
pay a credit card transaction fee, and that's a fee
that we have to pay every time someone uses a
credit card. So you might see it when you purchase
something online and it says, hey, use a credit card,
and we're going to charge you three percent more because

(20:59):
that's the that the retailer is having to pay. Credit
card companies who are not Second Amendment friendly started to say, look,
that is a risky business. And if we see a
charge come through at an MCC that is tied to
a firearms manufacturer, that three percent fee, we're going to
charge you six percent because that's a risky retailer.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
And so that fee would have been passed along to
the customers.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
And really it's even more by coffee and a T shirt,
you know, And.

Speaker 5 (21:33):
It's even more insidious. And the fact that right from
the beginning this was instituted the government's who wanted this.
So these companies were turning these figures over to the
US government. So now they had a list of weether
they don't know what you bought, but they do that
Joe Blow uses his credit card to buy to go
into a store that sells firearms. And that is that
maintaining of a list. The other thing was the liability

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there was. They said that this could be also turned
over to insurance company, thinking to o gee, if you're
buying firearms and you have those, really you're more of
a risk, so we may increase your insurance rates. It
was just all these little fingers that were all in there,
all instituted by the anti gun industry and meeting the
Democratic government, and that all happened. So all happened.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
There you go, jac We're going to jump to the
bottom of the hour news because on the other side
at twelfth there you're going to get to our guests
for today, Matt Light of the Light Foundation. It is
a wonderful foundation with a wonderful event that's coming up
here a Black Wing. We're on Target a broadcasting live
from the studios of LAPD Firearms Arranged. We'll be back
right after the break. Welcome back to on Target. I'm
your host, Eric joined today in the LAPD studios. I

(22:40):
got mister Joe King from Black Wing sitting here to
my left.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Always good to see you, Joe big Ed to my right,
JC is on the line and our next guest.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Guys, you may recognize our next guest, Matt Light from
his successes as a standout player at Purdue Perdue, Joe,
you didn't tell me Purdue that's what I saw right here?

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Who wanted you to have him on the radio? I
couldn't say that.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Oh wow, that changes things. That's okay.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
So he was a standout player at Purdue when he
was also eleven years at an offensive tackle for the Patriots,
where he won three Super Bowl rings.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Kind of impressive.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
But the Ohio boy has artically made an even bigger
name for himself for the past twenty years for the
work him and his wife have done for the Light Foundation,
the foundation that they started themselves way back in two
thousand and one. They set out to show really that
the next generation can achieve success through hard work, determination
and self confidence. And they do it by and large

(23:37):
introducing them to skills and confidence building and a variety
of outdoor and hands on skill sets. This isn't you're
sitting behind the computer all day ed teaching these kids things.
Is getting them out there and doing things, which is
just great. If you go to his website, Matt Light
seventy two dot com, it doesn't take long to get
excited about the stuff that they do and how passionate

(23:58):
he is, sir, I welcome you to the show.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
It is great to talk to you today, Eric.

Speaker 6 (24:04):
Thanks for having me on and listen. I mean, we
got to take it a little easy on my boilers.
You know, they had a rough night last night. Buzzer
beaters took them out of the attorney. I mean, you
know there's a lot of people mourning in Westlafia. Man,
you can't kick a can't kick a team when they're down.
I mean you can. It just doesn't look good.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Well, and you know what, in all honesty, I have
no I have nothing against Purdue. Now, I mean Michigan
different story. You know, it would have been something different.
But I mean I respect Purdue and stuff. I have
nothing against the team. I cheered for them last night.

Speaker 6 (24:36):
So yeah, well, you know what, you don't have to
worry about much when Purdue comes to cut down. I mean,
come on, I mean, if if we're gonna speak, you
know about a game that I know, well, I don't
think anybody in Columbus, all those crazy nuts, don't don't
get too worried when we step in, and maybe maybe
that'll change. I mean, I'm keeping my fingers crossed and

(24:56):
we'll get back to some glory days on the grid iron,
but we have we haven't done so in a while.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
But see, that's it's almost worth that way.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
I mean, when you when they come in and you're
not expecting to lose and then they beat you, then
then that's the I think that's even worse sometimes than
you know, a Michigan come into town.

Speaker 6 (25:15):
That's a fact. Yeah, well I can say this much
back in the day. You know, uh, man, what what
what games?

Speaker 4 (25:22):
We had?

Speaker 6 (25:23):
Man? Looking back on some of the battles that we
had there, even in Columbus at the Shoe, and I
can remember my my rookie season, you know, my first
year starting out as a true freshman, going against Brable
and Finkas and you know that entire group and all
the stuff that they brought to the table. Man, a
lot of memories.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Yeah, good stuff, good stuff.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Well, I'll be honest, I mentally didn't know much about
you and the foundation other than talking to Joe, But
it didn't take long going on your website and talking
to Troy and some of the other people. How wonderful
this has been. And you know one thing that that
I picked up on and maybe you can talk to
it a little bit Oftentimes you see former players of

(26:07):
you know, multiple sports, you'd start these foundations further in
their career or maybe when they're done with their career.
But you started this really early on in it. I mean,
what was your what was your your desire? Why, what
was the reasoning for getting uh? This started the motivation
there you go ahead, for getting this started really at
the beginning of your career.

Speaker 6 (26:29):
I think all of it centered around the fact that,
you know, I wasn't a kid who grew up wanting
to play college football or play in the pros. You know,
I was a kid who grew up in Dark County, Ohio, Man,
where there's plenty of cornfields, plenty of woods, plenty of
creek bottoms. You know, grew up in a family where

(26:50):
my great grandfather, grandfather, they were an outdoor writers association.
They were big conservationists. Guns were and bows and cross
bows and any type of weaponry from blowguns to throwing stars.
I mean I competed in tomahawk and knife competitions growing
up every single summer.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Man.

Speaker 6 (27:10):
I mean, you know, we did things in the outdoors,
We did things in a wild way, and you know,
I got to grow up around some of the most
incredible people on earth, and so and my dad had
Pulio by the way, I mean, so I didn't grow
up in a family to watch sports. The first time
I had ever seen a college game, I was playing
it at Purdue. And I went to Purdue to become

(27:32):
an engineer, and it was a great school. It was
an unbelievable opportunity. I had no idea that they'd pay
for your college, right, I mean, I was completely outside
of that realm. I didn't have friends that watch football.
I didn't I didn't watch any football. I just became
a football player because of the opportunities that were afforded
to me. And so by the time I get to

(27:52):
the league and they're paying me all this money, and
I thought it was a joke. I thought I thought
I was being messed with. And because I do bust
chops a lot too, by the way, and so you know,
I'm sitting there going, man, I got to give something back.
I got to do something bigger than just play this game.
And you know, I think that's where my family all
jumped on board and said, hey, you know, if you
want to do something, we'll do it with you. And

(28:14):
we put together a board started working with kids, and
you know, basically went from a Super Bowl victory and
you know, February of two thousand and two to forming
the LFE Foundation officially later on that same year and
getting to work with kids from all over the country.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
It's so great.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
I mean when you go through and see some of
the stuff that you've accomplished, and I look at and
I think it's an age thing too.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
You look at the youth of today.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
And so much of them are stuck behind a computer
with no or little social skills, little communication skills. And
when I looked, you know, at your Foundation Leadership Academy
and some of the things that that tries to accomplish
by informing the young kids and inspiring them and building

(28:58):
their skills, and then watching some videos, it's truly remarkable
the number of youth that you've touched so far, or
actually in these last twenty some years.

Speaker 6 (29:09):
You know, it is I guess, I don't know. I'm
kind of one of those guys I keep busy. I
don't really realize how old I am until I look
in the mirror and I start seeing all the grades.
And then you look back on certain things and you're
like my goodness, Like I had you in camp when
you were fourteen, and you now have three kids of
your own, Like, what the heck happened? And I think

(29:31):
for me and for my entire family and for our
entire staff, you know, we've been so blessed to work
with so many kids and in so many different ways
and being able to introduce them to things that shape
my life. Right Like, you know, I know how your
audience is as it relates to you know, gun issues
and gun rights and just you know, you know the

(29:54):
way that we live life, right, Like it's different for
other people. But when you bring people into that And
I introduced kids to a weapon, and I say, hey, look,
I'm gonna trust you with this only if you show
me that you can be a responsible person, right, and
that awesome responsibility that comes with getting this, you know,
shoot a bow, shoot a shotgun for the first time,

(30:16):
or a handgun. And you know, I love seeing kids
realize that, man, I can have a lot of fun
and put these electronics. As a matter of fact, we lock
their electronics in a box. It's like a ceremony. It's
one of the favorite things that I get to see.
These kids are like, oh, my goodness, you're like, you know,
you're cutting the tether and then you get to see
them be real kids.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
How relatable is that? Even that's what we do and
that awesome?

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yeah, I mean that's great.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
I mean I wonder if I could move that over
to our world and lock our employees cell phones in
a box.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Do you think that would work? Well? Matter, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (30:53):
Yeah, well I can tell you that when they get
it back, they won't be as eager to check it all.
I mean, it'll it'll go off for like about twenty
minutes solid, and then they'll realize that, you know what
I was here. I was present. I was able to
like actually live in the moment. I wasn't trying to
capture it. I was actually doing it, and I really

(31:13):
didn't miss it like I thought I would. And you know,
I think that also comes down to the people that
they're around, right, You know, so many kids, you know,
are so isolated in their own little worlds, even though
we are connected in theory better than we could ever be,
you know, globally, you know, community wise, but we're not
right and we know that, and there's a hunger for that.

(31:34):
There's a hunger for things that are real, and that
word real is what we use the Life Foundation in
so many different ways. But across the board with our
Leadership Academy, it's responsible, ethical, accountable leaders and how many
real people do you have in your life? Who can
you really depend on?

Speaker 5 (31:51):
Right?

Speaker 6 (31:52):
Those are the questions that we ask these kids, and man,
it's awesome working with them.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
It's great.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
We're talking to Matt Light of the Matt Liked Foundation.
That so one of the things to help keep this going.
You obviously have a fundraiser each year they shoot in
Rhode Island. Has been an enormous success and this year though,
you're bringing it here to Central Ohio. Tell us about
how that even came about this event that's coming up

(32:18):
in May right here at Black Wing.

Speaker 6 (32:20):
Yeah, you know, we're and we are so excited about this,
been wanting to do this for so many years and
got to meet Joe and his team you know over
there a Black Wing through his grandfather, who's you know,
just an amazing man and a mentor to so many
and and basically we're bringing what has been a twenty
year model here in the Northeast where we've had everybody

(32:42):
from you know, Gronkowski, you know, everyone's favorite German Shepherd
to you know, guys like Tom Brady, and I could
go on and on about the guys who have come
out and lent their fame to help us raise money
for the foundation here in Rhode Island. But we're bringing
that celebrity shootout model to you know, Columbus at the
Black Wing. We're gonna call it the Buckeye Blast, and

(33:05):
we're gonna have a lot of fun, man, And it's
an opportunity to you know, meet some players, meet some celebrities,
but you know, really have just a great day in
the outdoors, you know, smelling powder burning, you know, hitting targets,
shooting handguns. We've got a lot of great vendors, a
lot of great sponsors, and we're gonna have a whole
lot of fun raising money for the Life Foundation, the

(33:26):
work that we do.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
That's great and that's coming up on Tuesday, May thirteenth,
and we'll give out the information if you.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Want to be a part of that.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
But there's so much more going on there, so Joe,
you can probably speak to some of the other things
I wrote wrote down some to think there was so
much going on that day.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
Yeah, there isn't Matt. Matt invited me out to Rode
Island to see that and hit the show was so awesome.
I can't wait to replicate it. But my favorite sentence
I get to say now because he invited me out
there was I almost ran over Teddy Bruski with a
golf cart.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
So what that he said?

Speaker 3 (33:59):
The sentence I know I thought i'd say, But yeah,
I mean, we're gonna have some cool partners like Silencer
Central's bringing some suppressors out to try. Smith and Wesson.
Guys are going to be playing on the indoor range.
We got our full autos brought out for you guys
to play with. We're we're, we're, you know, working with
the idea, playing with some flamethrowers. Will be the shooting competitions,
silent auctions, and there's some pretty cool silent auctions on there,

(34:22):
doing some cool hunts and some cool fishing trips with
Matt and some other people like that. So it was
it's so cool. I can't wait to get this off
and run. And then there's gonna be some really awesome people,
some of Matt's friends who you know, I'm sure Matt
can speak intelligently about Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Matt, tell us who else is going to be there?

Speaker 6 (34:39):
Man, We've got a good list of guys and we're
gonna get you know, more and more committals. But I've
talked to, you know, guys that are former teammates of mine,
Guys that I've played college football with, and we're we're
kind of leaking them out there, but you know, we're
we're we're really exciting. You know, I've been talking to
a lot of the guys at Ohio State too, you know,
and Bobby Carpenter has been you know, incredible at get

(35:00):
you know, his network involved and jumping on board and
you know, so he'll be there. And a former teammate
of mine, Matt Castle, who went on to Kansas City,
he's going to come up for the event. And you know,
we got the Jim Liches, you know, some of the
guys from back in the day that I used to
look up to and still do and watch their careers.
So it's going to be a you know, it's honestly

(35:21):
a fun reunion for all of us. You know, I've
been talking to Nate Ebner and I know he's working
with the Buckeyes, you know, team and those guys and
helping out there and been talking to my old old
buddy mister Mattie p who's now there in Columbus as well.
I feel like they've got about four hundred coaches on
staff now, Yeah, pretty much. You know, we're we're excited
to get these guys in and just you know, again,

(35:44):
just have a great day in the outdoors, you know.
I mean, it's it's fun you get outdoors together, and
I mean the stories that get told, the lies that
get told, you know that the times that you get
to have and we all get to do it to
raise money for the foundation makes it even better.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
And that's great. And it ends up with a concert.
Is that with the thinkingness.

Speaker 6 (36:04):
We're going to have a little music on board. Yeah,
we got our our good friend of the foundation and
just a great human, Tyler Farr. He's going to be
coming in. You know. The guy has you know, created
more hits than well than I've ever had in a shower.
And I'm pretty good man. I'm a pretty damn good vocalist.
You know. If it's just me by myself.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Singer, I've heard it.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
I can relate legit.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
Yeah, but yeah, tom Bo Martin and Tyler farr Man.
They were so much fun, class acts. I'm so excited
to have them out with you too.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Matt.

Speaker 6 (36:34):
Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be great, man. And you know,
I think that's that's that's some of the fun, you know,
getting to interact with these guys when you're shooting the
course or you know, just reliving some of the glory
days or whatever it may be. I mean, you know,
there's so much camaraderie. It's like I always tell people,
the best part about hunting is the camp. It's the
fire pit. It's the time that we get together. And
I think for most outdoors and we can we can

(36:56):
all relate to that aspect.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
Well, Matt, I want to thank you for jumping on
with us today and also for putting this together. I
have a little bit of information if you're interested. Out
there a phone number you can call to find out
more and get registered it. It is going to be
nine three seven three two one sixteen sixteen, or you
can email Troy at Matt Light seventy two dot com.

(37:21):
We'll also put out there on our Facebook page. I'm
sure Joe you guys have it parallel over your social
media as well.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
Absolutely everybody at that length. Foundation is just such a
class act. They'll take good care of you.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Matt.

Speaker 4 (37:31):
Just type in Light Foundation, it'll all probably come up.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Yeah, there you go. Yeah, that makes it easy as well. Matt.
We wish you the best of luck.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
I'm going to try to sneak out there that day,
if nothing more than to shake your hand and to
congratulate you and your whole team for all you've done
to give back to the youth. And it's really that's
really good stuff.

Speaker 6 (37:50):
Well, we look forward to seeing you and everyone else
that day and appreciate all the hell Man Columbuses embrace
us with open arms. I mean, hey, we are. We
are just down the road by the way. You know,
Dark County is not too far so if you're ever
in that area, stop out and see the Foundation or
one of our programs. We'd love to host you. But
appreciate all the help and look forward to seeing everybody.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Sounds great, Matt. Light of the Light Foundation event coming
up on May thirteenth. Right there, Joe got it now, yep, yep,
May thirteenth, right in front of her. I know, I
knew that. I've cupped my head.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
There you go, guys, We're gonna jump to our last break,
and we come back to hit on a couple other
little pieces of news and a little bit more wrong.
Talking of broadcasting live from the studios of lapd fiarms arranged.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
We'll be back after the break. So look at that, Jodey.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
Now you got an applause from the from the live
studio audience.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
Here in a dirty look for my daughter in the audience.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Yes, yes she did look up though. That's always positive.
Welcome back on Target. I'm your host, Eric joined today.
I got big Edd to my right.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
I got our good friend Joking from Black Wing Shooting
Center JC is on the line. We just I spoke
to Matt Light at the Light Foundation. What an awesome
guy and a great event coming up, certainly something that's
worthwhile being a part of JC.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
We got a few quick minutes left.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
I wanted to kick it back to you talk about
OGC A something that's not not that good that came
up this week.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
Yep, Joe, I.

Speaker 5 (39:22):
Mean John, Okay, there we are. Yeah, would you see
a Yeah, something happened that was really unfortunate. I've been
I've been a member of the o GCA. It's been
around for eighty eight years, by the way, and I've
been a member this by fiftieth year coming up here.
But we had there was an incident, a real tragedy actually,

(39:42):
that that occurred. They've been held at the Roberts Center,
which is about sixty miles south of Columbus. Down there,
they have six meetings a year. Somebody someway, I don't
know all the details yet, but somehow a live round
was inserted into a rifle and and it was discharged
during the show. And as a result of that, the

(40:06):
robert Center said, that's it, the pull of the plug.
We've been there for twenty three years with having our
shows at the Roberts Center, and so as a result
of that bingo, it's gone. Now this is not for
people don't know anything about what you say it's another
gun show. It is not another gun show. It is
the largest gun collectors association in the world. There's about

(40:26):
eighteen thousand members, and two members have to nominate you
and approve you before you can become a member. So
this is not people walking in off the street that
you see with normal gun shows. These are truly professionals.

Speaker 6 (40:42):
All over the world.

Speaker 5 (40:44):
Come to this show just an example, I got to
hold the Thompson submachine gun that was used in the
Saint Valentine's Day massacres Chicago. I got to hold the
fourth of nineteen eleven ever made part of the Firearms
Museum in Washington, National fire Arms Museum. I got the
hold John Browning's first design of the Browning High Power

(41:06):
back when it was designed almost like a nineteen eleven
is that really rare, rare, rare things. And the pluge
been pulled on it, and so right now we're you know,
there's going to have to start to look. But you
know we have you know, close to a thousand tables
every meeting and thousands of people coming in, very very professional.
It was a tragedy. It was an accident. I don't

(41:28):
know if it was done on purpose, but all guns that,
if anything, they should tell you, I don't care how
professional you are, how many years you been doing it,
to follow the rules. I mean, every firearm is loaded
until you personally check it. And never ever point a
firearm anywhere that you if something would happen, that it
would destroy something or somebody, So always keep it in

(41:48):
a safe direction. And in this case, whether it was
done purposely, which had happened one other time before in
the seventies. I was at that meeting and somebody came
in and inserted even around and a new unfired firearm
and it went off during the show. No injuries, but
I'll tell you the place gets as silent as a
morgue when that happens. But anyway, so that's really really unfortunate.

(42:13):
And this is our big meeting coming up in May.
We have all sorts of people come from all over
the United States and the world to display of their
their their special event stuff and anyway, so yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
Hopefully they're able to find another spot. I think they
still are using Iaccenter and Cleveland on the occasion.

Speaker 5 (42:33):
Started back there, just so far away. It was so
such relocated. It's out at the airport and it's a huge, huge,
huge facility. But they try to get something a little
more central. It used to be in Best Memorial which
has Suttle grounds, and we could have it, but the
city of Columbus said they were going to arrest anybody
walking across the street with a firearm, so we had
to cancel that one.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
So anything to put a damper on it, well, thank you, JC.
Good to hear your voice again and hopefully next week
you be back here in studio with the rest of us.
Thank our good friend Matt Light for calling in today,
and Joe King Joe, it's always good to see you.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
So glad to be here.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
Yeah, and sorry for harassing a little bit, but we're
going to be on your show next week. Yes, absolutely
details to come there you go in big ed of course,
to the right.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Good seeing you as well.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
Guys, thanks for spending the last hour with us. Next
week we'll be back, same time, same place, and as always,
let's be careful out there.
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