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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Greeting salitations and welcome to on target from LAPD Firearms
and Range nine ninety nine Bethel Road. Yeah, I will
just kind of killed that music there, just just like that. Hey,
it's Chuck Eric is. Arry got called into duty by
Pete Haig Seth apparently he is. He's going to work
at a special Congratulations America, Pete Hank saith last night,
and thank goodness JD. Vance is our vice president and
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tie breaker in the Senate it happened. I can't imagine
Mitch McConnell getting a warm reception anywhere he goes in
the state of Kentucky at this point. Norah, Alaska, Murkowski. Yeah,
what Alaska was? I think a thirteen point win for
Trump if I'm not mistaken, I think Kentucky was like
thirty one.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
If I'm Hyeah, he says, I don't care what you
people think. He's on his way out.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I'm here to represent my own And yeah, the people
spoke and said here's what we want. And I don't
call that really representation of the people when you vote,
when you vote directly in opposition to what the people voted.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
So hey, we got a new sworn in senator. The
former Lieutenant governor. Yes, guy, since we have last been
on the air, Bluck Eyes are the national champions.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
That's so good, that is what it's almost. Was it
twenty was it two thousand and two or twenty fourteen
when we had to have this really weird set of
circumstances like Virginia Tech had to lose and the cow
had to jump over the moon and all kinds of
stuff in order for them to get the championship, and
somehow it all happened. And this year kind of felt
like the same way. After the Michigan loss, it was like, oh,
(01:37):
well we're done, and then out of nowhere, just everything
that had to go right went right. It was just it, wow, wonderful.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Yeah, what about you know, you watched how they played
with Michigan and then the games after that. I mean
the quarterback, it was like it was like he had
a rocket on him.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Absolutely, it was.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
It was such a change in his in his game.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Well, there's enough testosterone around this table right now that
I think every one of us understands. Sometimes it takes
getting kicked in the teeth to make you throw your
best punch. And that's what happened to the Buck guys.
They took it hard, and they got up and they
came out swinging like they never swung before.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
And it was a beautiful thing. It was a beautiful
thing to say.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeah, Judkins going to the NFL last night was the cutoff.
I'm not sure who else might have announced.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I'm not so that was good. That's beautiful one. So
that's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Absolutely, we are not the owners. Do you own anything here?
Do you own anything? Okay, we are not the owner's
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active law enforcement and there's two guys that just talk
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today's show, of course, JC is as you can tell,
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he's got his telephone book over here with all the
little pretty highlighter colors. I mean, seriously, if you're watching
on Facebook right now, I need you to see Jc's notes.
He comes in, Harry, it looks like a Pride flag,
it really does. All these colors, all the rainbow colors.
And the guy's got like mountains of stuff to tell
us about. We have at least one gun of the week.
(03:29):
I hear you're you're handling the Gun.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Of the week. I think we have two of them.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Well, I didn't know if you get to both of them,
so I wasn't going to over promise things. I'm a
Republican after all. And Richie, the legendary Ritchie calling after
the botomy are Apparently he has a really cool new job.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Oh boy, yeah, I envy him.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I don't know a thing about it. But Eric said, oh, yes,
you're gonna want to talk to Richie. And next week
show a Shot show wrap up is coming?
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Are you going it's already over? Is it overways? This week?
For four days?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I thought it was like Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
No, it's it's it's just for four days, so it's
over done with it's done.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
And we didn't go again.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yeah, No, I think we got to get you there
and being there, he's not here again. I think he
goes on probation. We need we need some and I
believe the crowd is the one that agreed with me
on that.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
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Speaker 2 (04:51):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Speaking of which, we are streaming live on Facebook, also
on YouTube and and of course on on your radio
at six to ten w t V in the pop
cast is always up. If you miss any of the show,
you can always just come back and listen to it
again and again and again because it's always so pleasurable.
So I haven't been here for well, I've been here
one out of like the last six weeks because I
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have what I like to call hey life, and so
I've been a little busy. What's going on with you, guys,
jac to my left and.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
The secret you have you're on the road radio here
on Yeah, there you're there. You're just like a busy
kind here.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
At the end of the month, I'll be filling in
on the morning show for Mike. I'm in with Blazer
at three during the week. Now, I still got my
thing at six o'clock. Yeah, it's uh, it's all over
all right, So how's life. What's going on with you?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Oh, everything's good here. Uh. Yeah, it was a kind
of rough week. We lost electricity here at the store
along with you know, everybody else's at the Brown Hunt
or whatever, and then our phones went out the next
day and then so it was a little bit hectic here.
But but everything's good. So uh but news wise, we
we've got some news and uh this is the I
like this one's kind of interesting. Uh So, uh, Trump,
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as we know, is already has issued more i think
at a first or second day than than he's done,
more than the President Biden had done in the last
more than President the whole four years. It was just
just amazing. So he was I just yeah, he's amazing. Okay,
So anyway, but he had a flurry of executive orders,
but you know, none were guns specific some we were
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hoping for. But he did keep his campaign promise what
he said, and pardoned all the January sixth defendants who
are arrested during the protest, well ironically on Tuesday, so
the one wasn't. His name is Daniel Ball, so he
got clemency for the protest period of time. But the
next day he's arrested and pending a federal gun charges.
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So apparently he was the floor to me. And he
was the first of January sixth rider to face additional troubles.
Apparently under his new indictment. He had two previous convictions. Convictions,
so he was a felon domestic violence by battery and
strangulation back in twenty seventeen and battering and resisting law
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enforcement with violence in October of twenty one. And I
guess being in the Hootskio for this time, they didn't
have a chance to really you know, serve he was
three years Yeah, well he was already in jail. So
but anyway, so as soon as he stepped out, so
he got arrested on federal gun charge of being a
convicted violent felon. It's going to be interesting arm.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I think the reason they found the firearm though, was
a search due to the January sixth conviction, wasn't it that?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
I do not know. I just went until he was
he was clemency for the riot, and then yes.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Pardon sponges January sixth, and there then there was no
reason to do the search. Therefore he should not have
had that weapon discovered. A good lawyer may get him
out of this.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
I'm just saying it depends on what that.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Part convict did fellon. Yeah, and he wasn't there was
no clemency for what he had done in the past.
So uh so anyway, yeah, well I'll be interested in
reporting that. That's yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
So this whole thing's going to result with all these parts.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Here's some big news and this is uh I gave
it a round of applause. We know that that Stephen
Dadelbach is gone as the director of the ATF. Yay, I'll
even give that an applause. And in his place right
now is Marvin Richardson. Now he's back on top. He
didn't get this through the efforts of of President Trump.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
He got it just by the fact that the one
guy's gone, we have to have a director. So he
was in acting. Uh he's an acting director. So in fact,
he was a former acting director at the top under Biden.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
And uh, it's it's it's funny. Even though he's the
acting director, he's still only listed as of yesterday as
a deputy director. But the importance of this one was
he has been here uh four uh in this role,
and he was there under under Biden. But Biden decided
he wasn't tough enough for what he wanted, and he
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was demoted from the acting director to bring detlback in.
And this sparked a backlash because he's black and black
law enforcement and gun rights groups both were really upset
that they that Biden got rid of him as acting
director and put Deedelbuck in there. So Richardson's been criticized.
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He's kind of both sides of the ball here. Uh,
the anti the gun control activists. That's what they pushed
to get rid of him. They wanted really harder policies
than they argued that Richardson was too cozy with the
gun industry, so as a matter of fact, they accused
him of slow walking Biden's rules on on toughening gun restrictions,
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and The New York Times even described him at the
time as a end quote an industry friendly subordinate, pumping
the brakes on Biden's gun control policies. So they got
rid of him. Biden got rid of him and brought
in dentleback. But gun rights activists also have criticized him.
So he's kind of middle of the road because they
claimed that Richardson was actually the driving force behind the
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efforts to make pistol braced firearms like we have sitting
up here and here, and he wanted them to be
short barreled rifles, which are nff NFA required tax stamp
background all that, so they're treated like machine guns, even
though there's some automatics. So anyway, so he had that
both both of those things going away that way. So anyway,
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so we don't know what President Trump is going to do.
Maybe he's going to wait for the Attorney General to
come in, but you know, right now he's back as
the acting director. And anyway, so.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Has old Marvin at least driven past a gun store
at some point in his life.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Oh, he's a he's a good guy. I mean I
actually thought he was a. He he's a pretty good guy.
And he like, like I said, he's he's prone enough
gun that h that he is actually advocated for some
uh some gun positive gun changes. And they said that
he actually uh attends fun shows, goes to and speaks
with the the industry, and he's right out there, you know,
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making contact with him. So he's kind of, uh, like
I said, the middle of the road. And they said
that that's what if Bondi gets in, They said that
that's what she's looking for, is uh somebody that uh
that will be a law enforcement more person than a
political uh activist if she gets in, I guess she's
not not confirmed yet.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Well you can argue about the policy and the politics later.
At least somebody who understands and and maybe even owns
firearms running the agency is a good idea.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah, well that's I would think. So we haven't had that,
so yeah, she the quote is here she advocates for
a non political law enforcement official to run the AT
But in any case, he's certainly a lot better than
Thattleback was. But in speaking of the ATF, you know,
you still have snakes in the foxhole that we have
to get rid of. Eric happened to text me just
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about a half an hour ago saying, hey, did you
see this. Well, the President Trump said, hey, we got
to get get rid of all the DEI you know,
officials in every agency. We're done with that. You know,
we judge people in their character and what they can
do in their abilities. So he said every one of
them should be put off on every federal agency should
be put on leave. Well, the ATF had a DEI soul,
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a person that to run DEI in the ATF, and
they had one on Tuesday, but once they heard what
Trump was doing, they immediately took her and changed her
title to senior executives. So on their website she went
from being the DEI officer for the ATF IS and
now she's listed as So the people in there that
are still trying to undermine and do these things are
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still there, and that just shows you what kind of
condition the at F has been in.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
So all right, more government smoking beer, is changing names,
keeping everything else to say.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
There's some we'll get some quick one. We got a
few to go home.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah, you can get one more quick one in there.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
There's still stuff that's going on. This is just crazy
to me. Colorado lawmakers have introduced their Colorado Senate Bill three,
introduced by a senator of course, and then a representative
also co sponsored. This bill would be in the manufacture,
the distribution, transfer sale for all semi automatic weapons that
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would take a detachable magazine. You could have no semi
automatic weapons that would take a detachable magazine.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Wait wait, wait, wait wouldn't that would that not be
all semi automatic world?
Speaker 2 (13:53):
But yeah, well right, well now not the new PR. Yeah,
the PR fifty seven that the celt came out with,
which is an internal magazine. Uh that's maybe that's why
they came out with it. But anyway, they just said
this would compromise the overwhelming majority of the handguns and
rifles shotguns that would take magazines. So it same only
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bold action rifles, lever action rifles that break, break action rifles,
and shotguns, pump shotguns, and revolvers that would be all
that would be left in Colorado. So that's actually been
introduced as a bill that just shows you the madness
that this woke society still.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Say in the Colorado Legislature is Rocky Mountain High?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Yeah, that I would say.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
The wonderful, glorious Windy City Chicago, Illinois.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Boy, I'll tell you what you cannot You just can't
go a day without hearing the bs that comes out
of that city. We got since the as of today,
one hundred people shot in January already. Wow, twenty seven
murders and that's all in the first twenty five days
of the year.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
They're they're up. They're up there for a new rep.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I hope that we do not try to hang for
Capita with him again this year, because last year was
a bad enough year. Last night, I was listening to
the scanner because I'm a boring person, and I was
listening to Columbus police on a pursuit from Southwest Columbus
some of the tenement apartments over on the southwest side,
shooting apparently into an apartment, and the dirt balls, three
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dirt balls, fled in a car. They went all over
my beloved west side, through residential neighborhoods, hilltop streets, and
so forth, got themselves to West Broad Sullivan Avenue, hit.
Seventy bailed on the ramp at the Parsons ramp there
at Children's Hospital. One of them apparently got in the hospital,
so they set up a perimeter on Livingston Avenue. They
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got the hospital surrounded. They catch one on the ramp,
another one fleeing on foot, thinking you're gonna run on
the freeway. I'm a bad guy. And so all three
of them were caught last night, Thank goodness, So good
job Columbus Police Department. The chop was in the air,
and I heard three different precincts on the scanner that
all responded to this thing and got these guys wrapped
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up in a hurry. And last I heard this morning
is about eight hours or eight o'clock this morning. There
were no incidents of anybody getting hit by the gunfire, which.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Is good, Thank goodness for that. That's good.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
But yeah, let's not have a let's not have a
Chicago year in Columbus's gotta take a break here. We
will be back plenty more. Jc's got more and more
news and it's and it is it is multicolored news.
And and Richie Jeckson after the bottom of the hour
you're listening to on Target from l e PD Firearms Range,
nine ninety nine Bethel Road on six to ten WTV.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Hey I miss you.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I missed you too, OWT. I think this is actually
the first song I ever heard the Stones do when
I was a kid. Really really, I think I think so.
And it was followed by I know it's only rock
and roll, but I like it. I don't know why
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warms up, they get out, get more active. And we
do have you know, chairs in here and in studio audience,
if you will, which basically.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Almost the full hostage today, and.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
It's a wonderful thing. Usually because Tom has donuts, but
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Speaker 3 (18:02):
We get a lot of people out there talking about
Facebook is cutting in and out and you, guys, I'm sorry.
We wish we could change that. It's unfortunate that that's happening.
I can only tell you to just get old six
' ten w out and listen to us on the radio.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Yeah, And I don't know. Facebook has been really weird,
especially since Zuckerberg came to this revelation that maybe people
should be a lowed to post things they don't agree with.
I'll be watching a cat video, I mean, something completely innocuous,
and ten seconds in it stops and you scroll on
to the next video, and then you go back to
the cat video and then it goes again. It doesn't
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matter where I'm on my cell data, whether I'm on
the radio station Wi Fi my home Wi Fi. It
does it all the time.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
I don't get it either.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Not just off two weeks ago because I was talking
the gu N word and demonstrating.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Knocked you off for saying that. That's what Eric said.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
He said, they just he said, they just dropped us,
violated the first stand I thought they were going to
be speech free. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Maybe that'll change with this rise of artificial intelligence. And
you have to be a Star Trek fan to understand
what I'm about to say. But every time I see
Mark Zuckerberg, I see Lieutenant Commander Data with messy hair,
and I'm just wondering, could he be AI generated? Maybe
maybe he is an android because he reminds me of Data.
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We got time here, probably before the bottom of the
art for a couple of more news stories, if you
have anything for it.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
So yeah, talk about this was a news of the
what would be weird? But this was a in Pennsylvania,
Uh They a Democratic of course. A state representative named
Amen Brown introduced a bill in the Commonwealth that would
require anyone attending a gun show to show personal identification.
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The show motor must then make a copy of that
ID and keep it for five years, and if it passes,
they must also turn those records over to the office
of the Attorney General of Pennsylvania or in any county prosecutor,
ammunisp police department upon request. And there's no you don't
have to have a reason for it. You could just say, yeah,
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there's a gun show of town. I want to know
I'm wrong.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Is PA not one of the ones that said you
didn't need an ID to vote?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yeah, of course, yeah. Anything.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Now they want you to show an ID ID to
to go to a gun gun.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah, to go to a gun show. Yeah, I want
to buy a holster and I want to go there,
and I want your ID and we're going to keep
that and then anyone who wants it of Attorney General,
we're going to send it to them and you know,
any uh. Just so they said there's probably a little
chance of a passing, but the fact that they're introducing
this just absolutely crazy, crazy crazy.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
I'm pretty sure even John Fetterman would think that was stupid.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Yeah, I would. I agree, he's kind of seen some
of the light. Uh. Just we're gonna give you this
a couple of perks because the show is over. The
Shot Show is over, and we're not going to discuss
these in great detail. However, I'm going to tell you
about some of the things that happened that were pretty
interesting at the shot show. So some of the one
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that seemed to actually have the most response was this
Celtech and it's called the PR fifty seven. So lightweight.
It's hammer fire, but it's internals. You don't see the hammer.
It has the it's a rotating barrel and it locks
up at the end of the barrel. So we look
at the slide, it looks like it has all these
star cuts in it, but that's where the barrel locks up.
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It rotates what helps cut down in the recoil. It
weighed so it's so light, it's like thirteen ounces that
they said they it was a horrible day at shot show.
On range day. They said it was low forties, high
winds which were feeding the fires out west, and they
said the gun was so light. They she had videos
of them blowing off of the table and all the
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targets are blown down. But they did that was a
said it's a bad range day, but it's very very
interesting gun. And because it's the manufacturer suggested retail is
three ninety nine, so it'll be sold for less than that,
and everyone seems to want one the other one. That's
really interesting in folks, you should just look this up.
It's hard to even describe it, but there's a you know,
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the high tech and very expensive guns are made by ZEV'SEV.
They do a lot of You can take a glock
and they just go over the slide and it looks
like something fronder space. Well, they combined with a magpole
and they came out with their f DP, which is
their folding defense platform. It actually looks like a gun case.
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It is rectangular. It's only ten in three quarters inches long.
I mean we're talking like a sheet of paper is
a bit smaller than this. And the handle is actually
it's a little more squared off than you can see
on a typical ar handle. But when you carry it, it
looks like that. But you hit a button at pops
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open almost instantly to the stock. It's got this and
you your pistol grip is there. Take seventeen round block
magazines and it just you hit the button and it
pops open and uh open. It's only twenty inches long
and it's this incredible little little pistol. But you really
need to look at the video. I watched it a
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couple of times even this morning before I came, uh,
it's it's cool. Video is cool because that's fast paced
rock rock songs going on. Why about twenty different guys
at the range are going you popping it up and
and anyway. But it's called the ZEV, the the Folding
Defense Platform, the f d P.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
But really strange, it sounds like a Maxwell Smart guy.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Yeah, you know what, I was just thinking, that's like
I was going there. I was going with what's this
face inspector gadget, Yeah, which was the cartoon version of
Maxwell Smart basically run.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Seventeen hundred bucks. But you to just have to watch
it and see it. I think it even comes with
a with a telephone in a shoe. It's gonna come
with that. I don't know if it comes with that
or not.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
And when you aim, you'll never hit what you're trying
to hit, but then you get to say missed it
by that much.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Rifle pistol and carbe.
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You gotta take a break here for the bottom of
the ur news. JC has more Richies checking in and
uh and I still got to find out what's going
on with it because I haven't had a chance to
talk to him. This is on target on six ten
WTV yet didn't care for that watch at all, but hey,
we've got standing by right now. On the on the
(24:53):
phone is I always get him described as my buddy
Richie right, never a last name. I know he's got
a new job, don't.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Know what it.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
It's always Eric's buddy. It's Eric's buddy. He's not our buddy.
I don't even know why he's calling us.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
He's oury buddy, buddy, my buddy, Ritchie. Are you everybody's
buddy or just there?
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Well, you know I am everyone's buddy. I mean, Eric
has photographs of me that I don't want to get
out to the media, so I have to be his
special buddy. But look at this for the record, gentlemen.
You know I'm a you know, a soldier that follows orders,
and the commander a chief told me to call it
exactly twelve thirty five, and that is exactly why I'm
not called. Oh yes, I am very when you when
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you launch a mission and they tell you launch a
twelve thirty five not a minute sooner. But anyways, I
am here. I'm everyone's friend. How you guys doing today?
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, I've lood to hear from you.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
We're told that you've got some kind of cool new
job that we all need to know about for some reason.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
What are you doing?
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Well? Do you remember when Charlie Bucket got the Wonka
factory how excited he was. Yes, well, I got twenty
years of working in the firearms industry, and I started
my career working at Sega Special Weapons. So I've gone
on the Shot Show a dozen and a half times,
working with Block and you know, selling the law enforcement.
So everything's been modern. I now took a job and
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I've been there since July, and I work for a
company right here in Manchester, New Hampshire, about two point
four miles away from where I live. It is called
the Amuskeg Auction Company, and everyone is familiar with Rock
Island and some of the other auction houses that are
out there. Amaskeg's been around for twenty seven years. There's
a job posting that came up as a firearms specialist
(26:31):
and someone sent me the listening because I was unemployed.
Long story and a Richard, you're perfect with the job,
and I'm like, you know what, Yes, I am. I
am an expert specialist. I know myself. And fifteen minutes
into the interview, I realized that I didn't know check
because there are, with no exaggeration, I'm gonna throw this
(26:52):
number up in the air, half a million different variations
of firearms that have been created over the last couple centuries,
from sporting to recreational to military, trap shooting, side by sides,
over and unders, drilling rifles and not even clumbing handguns,
and just all sorts of variations. And I am literally
(27:13):
in a pool, like the pool of what they call
those little balls the kids jump into. Well, that's what
I do every day, is I go to work and
I jump into a pool of guns, and I have
seen some of the most amazing firearms I never thought
I would ever ever see or hold.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
You're getting paid for this.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
I am, I am, it is. It's amazing, amazing job.
The stuff that sits on my table on a regular
basis is just amazing. I mean I have handled the
shotgun that was monogrammed and owned by Audie Murphy, and
everyone knows who Audie Murphy is. I have also handled
a revolver that was Teddy Roosevelt single Action Army that
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he took up San Juan Hill with the rough Riders.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
And rich Man. Uh, he's my hero, man. I'd love
to see that that you got to handle it?
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Are you? Can you conduct like tours for your buddies and.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Stuff to make the listen. There's there's a there's a
museum up here. One of the top five Class three
owners uh in the United States. His store is not
far from here. He's a he's a gun shop. Actually,
I had the pleasure of inviting Ian McCullum from Forgotten
Weapons dot Com to come up here. It'll be three
(28:28):
years this July, and I spent the entire weekend with
me and you know what. He is exactly like he
is in the videos. No, no deviation of personality. Great guy,
and we fed him better than he's ever been fed,
and he had a great time. And I actually had
an opportunity to be a cameraman for him when he
was shooting one of the videos and he freaked me
(28:50):
out because he turned to me and says, well, what
do you think, mister cameraman? Should we got out and
you know, look at the target. And if you ever
watch his videos, historically he doesn't talk to the cameraman.
Life froze.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
And I'm like, sure, hey, Richie, I'm thinking about you
last night and today I've stumbled across something at the
online from the Shot show and I said, oh my goodness.
As soon as I saw it, I said, Richie, Richie, Ritchie,
I want this gun. Richie would want this gun. We
won't have it. But you're probably I don't know if
(29:23):
you even aware of it, but US Armament Manufacturing just
did a clone of the Delile, the Delile commando carbing
and we made one hundred and twenty nine of these originally.
And I don't know if you've seen it before, but
I just went to I saw it because it's based
on a on a SML E number one Mark three chassis,
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but it's got an integral suppressor and it's bold action
and they it made it in forty five ACP only
magazine fed They said it was probably the quietest suppressed
firearm ever made. But when you'll look at that back end,
it's just our one of our just our favorite, our
favorite sml E. Look to it and John anyway, John,
(30:08):
I have.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
To stop here. But you know, for us dummies, what
is SMLI.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Short Magazine Lee infield. It's it's a rifle that the
British Army used for sixty two years. It was their
main battle rifle in different configurations. But helps me, Ritchie
is this is his, this is his, that's his BAILI Wick,
he loves us. I love this gun. And but when
I saw this, h yeah, Ritchie knows what I'm talking about.
But yeah, it looks so cool. At six thousand grand
(30:34):
or seven, we won't be able to own that was
not all anyway, but you have to see it.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
It's cool.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Were you at show, Richie, because you know none of
us were.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Well, no, and I'm grateful that I'm not there. If
you've done a dozen or so shows as a vendor.
It is twelve hours on your feet, shaking a lot
of hands, a lot of close talkers. It literally is
the world's largest peatree dish because ninety percent of everyone
that comes home as the Shot Show flew. Now I'm
(31:02):
not even exaggerating. Everyone that leaves the show ends up
getting sick because you're just in the face with all
sorts of people. But do you know what happens right
after the Shot Show in Vegas? Well, yes there is,
but there was also the Las Vegas Antique Arm Show,
which is going on right this weekend. And this is
(31:24):
antique heaven of everything you guys could possibly imagine, from
Cole to Smith and Weston Winchester, huge boots and Class
three items. But it is just it's massive. I don't
think it's the size and I can probably say comfortably
it's not the size off the Shot Show. You've ever
been there. It's massive, but it's got you know, dozens
(31:47):
and dozens of vendors that are down there. It's quite large.
But no, I actually stayed home because someone had to
keep the candle burning at the office and continue writing
and stuff like that. JC getting back to your comment
about the Deliah, there has actually been a company for
the last ten to twelve years making a copy, and
it's called Valkyrie. And you can buy a fake suppressor
(32:10):
or a real suppressor and believe it not, it's custom
built and it's under three grand.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Wow. So that's it. Yeah. I hadn't heard of that one.
When I saw this one that was, you know, one
of the featured unusual guns at the shot Show and
US Army Manufacturing. I looked up they were in Houston,
sold nineteen sixty five, and I know I only made
one hundred and twenty nine of them, so I don't
think there's too many out there. But it's such a
cool gun. It's only nineteen inches long, pulled action, suppressed
(32:36):
gun forty five, and it's just one of the coolest
things that I said that Richie would love to have
one of these in this gun, say, but ill the Valkyrie.
I'm going to look that one up too. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Yeah, I am. I am still patiently waiting for my
Vickers to be completed, which the last time I spoke
to Midwest Metalworks, who was doing the restoration program on it,
I'm supposed to beginning it back this month, So I'm
like an expecting father waiting for his child to come home.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yeah, that would be an expensive little child, and I
would take boy, that's that's phenomenal. Yeah yeah, but.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
It's just amazing. But I'll be honest with you. I
actually the job has impacted my relationship with Eric because
we used to talk all the time, and unfortunately I'm
just full time working. But getting into the antique industry
working at Amiskek Auction has been a completely different experience
because you're seeing these vintage guns coming in. Unfortunately, some
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people are getting up there in their ages and you know,
getting up here in their eighties, and they're selling the
guns because their kids don't want the guns, or unfortunately
they're passing away, and then they have instructions to bring
me their their collection to Amiskek. We just picked up
a collection that's probably valued over five million dollars.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
The Gentleman's house was forty two hundred square feet. His
entire base was the same footprint as the house, and
it was a museum he had built downstairs. And he
knew the curator at Smith and Wesson and also Springfield Omri.
So the prototype one of a kind gun that he
has is just unbelievable. It's like, yeah, I'll give it one.
(34:19):
One example, there is a from the Craig rifle that
we used Spanish American War into the nineteen o three
there was a prototype. There is one of one nineteen
o three twenty eight inch barrel chambered in thirty one.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
That we have.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
On yeap oh. We also have that just as a man,
a Mark four Webley revolver that is engraved white star
line the famous manufacturer the Titanic. Yes, and there's only
two other known in existence, and one is an in
England Museum English Museum and the other ones in the
(35:03):
Scottish Museum. So we have that one coming up for auction.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Well, Richie, now that we're all very very jealous of you,
you have to go, but congratulations on the new job.
Enjoy every single minute of it. It sounds like you will.
And we're going to take the final break here and
try to hit at least one gun of the week
when we get back. This is on target on six
to n wutv N. That's not word up man, that's
(35:34):
a Janet right there, baby, who's who's back to work again.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Yes she is.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
She's a I think out in Vegas. I miss her.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Oh, actually she's staying out in Vegas.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
I think, yeah, doing a residency thing. Well this is
where did that go?
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Ella?
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Your record is scratched? Just just so you know. The
gun oh the week. There's a couple up here on
the counter and JC, I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you
if you would like to pick your favorite, just in
case we only get through one of it, which one
would you like.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
To think about? But if you're watching online, both of
these are a ar pistols. And if you look at
the one, I mean, I'm shocked it's a pistol because
because yeah, well it's very expensive. It's a Geistly uh
and I can't reach out if it's very heavy, all
Geistly made, and therefore it is very expensive. But that
(36:28):
has an eleven and a half inch barrel, and it
does have the arm brace.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
On it, yes, and.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
That qualifies as a pistol. But I would never have
guessed that at that. It just it's it's massive.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
And the barrel link determines pistol versus rifle, right.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Yea, if it's if it's under sixteen inches, then it's
a pistol, or else a short barreled rifle or or
you know that. That's how they're classified. So the ATF,
many many years ago says a rifle's got to be
sixteen inches or longer. If it's less than sixteen inches,
it's a pistol. So some of the long rain shooting
the old days, they would make, you know, fifteen and
a half fifteen and three quarter inch pistols for long
(37:04):
range target shooting in particular. But so other than that,
if you have a rifle and it's not sixteen inches,
then it's a short barreled rifle tax stamp, you know that,
just just like you're buying a machine gunt, even though
it could be a you know, just one of these.
So this this was made a long time ago, but
now they're making them now, and it's this was made
(37:24):
by DPMs, and it's the Panther and it's called the
the just like they named it what you originally called
the kitty Cat. This has got so it's a pistol
because it's got a seven and a half inch barrel,
and this is an arm brace. It doesn't have the
brace things on it yet, which is required other than that,
if it's a stock, then it's a short barreled rifle.
(37:45):
But if it has the ability to attach around your
arm to support and you know, after a lot of
people are injurers don't want to be able to shoot,
and so they came up with the idea of making
an arm brace, which works really well with the collapsible
kind of stack stock. But if you use it like this,
(38:06):
and that's predominantly how you're using it, it's a short
burrowed rifle and you could actually be charged with a
federal offense of having if you put on the trap,
it's okay, right, and but you also see this not
meant to go against your shoulder. It's very very thin
for those on the back, and it's not comfortable. But
let's face it, when you look at that one, that's
one of the determinations on the On the other most
(38:27):
of the stocks are like that. You can see what's
that paraphernalia in the back. That's the arm strap. You
put your arm in its straps that you're able to
shoot right crystal right one handed. There's many folks there
that just you know, don't abide by the laws, like
stop signs, and like taking short barreled rifles. But this
is just seven and a half inch barrel and it's
the old fashioned uh, you know ar with the carry
(38:50):
handle which does not come off. So it's just this
is this is how you carry it. So Vietnam vets
will certainly from the early days will certainly recognize that.
So very cool. Two two three. You can actually carry
this in your car. Difference right there, right, there's a difference.
It is a pistol. So I would say that if
you're having around in a bad neighborhood, this would be
(39:11):
a very impressive, impressive pistol. To have laying out on your.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Loaded AR fifteen rifle in your car makes you a criminal.
This does not.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
And that's a big deal. And that is a big deal.
And I mean it's absolutely it's it's you know, it's
this is actually reasonable. It is six fifty fifty yeah,
and uh and you know it does have it's you
know stock that extends out, except it's not really a stock.
It's the handbrace that extends out that is technically classified
as the same thing. You could also have that in
(39:44):
your car, but I can't even imagine maneuver that at all.
But that is also a pistol, and a very expensive
one because Geisley makes us top top, top notch. All
the competitors use the Geistly trigger for the I would
say probably ninety some percent of them in the in
the matches that they have up camp Perry thing.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
But do you lose Do you lose anything as far
as performance, accuracy, distance, anything with the ar pistol versus
an ar rifle.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Not really. I have one that kel Tech makes, and
one of the reasons I bought it was because they're like,
here's this pistol's got a nine point nine a quarter
inch barrel, actually nine point two inches, And I read
two different magazines, Reputable Magazine, Ones, American riflem Ones was Guns,
and they tested a bench just on the bench where
(40:32):
you were holding it. They got nine sixteenths of an
inch groups out of the one and a three quarter
at one hundred yards with this nine. So I ended
up buying one in the early days when it first
came out. I just can't believe how accurate it is.
So that's it's a kel Tech and it's their PLR sixteen.
(40:57):
But anyway, but they're accurate. You lose velocity, But this
isn't a long range gun. You wouldn't go hunting with
something like this at a far distance.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
And that'd be a great, great gun.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
And it's really reasonable, so folks, you know, like we're
talking like, you know, it's a tick less than six
hundred and fifty bucks if brand new DPMs, which makes great, great, great,
great things and takes all the accessories that you would
if you want to change a hand grip or or
do anything. I love the I still love that old
carry handle.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
You know, what's the weight on that?
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Probably about four yeah, probably less than five pounds.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
And these are in stuff now, yeah and there, yeah,
it's here right now. Those are going to go quickly. Nice.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
That one's you know, over twenty four hundred bucks, so
that one is a very expensive cost, you know, really
quality gun. But yeah, stop in L. E. P. D
Firearms Range nine nine to nine Bethel Road and come
in and see these.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
You got anything going on this week, you gotta plug fast,
like in five second.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Uh this weekend, this week, this week, well we're gonna
be talking about getting ready to talk about shot show
once Aaron comes back for next week. Over stuff. So anyway,
all right, well let's be careful,
Greeting salitations and welcome to on target from LAPD Firearms
and Range nine ninety nine Bethel Road. Yeah, I will
just kind of killed that music there, just just like that. Hey,
it's Chuck Eric is. Arry got called into duty by
Pete Haig Seth apparently he is. He's going to work
at a special Congratulations America, Pete Hank saith last night,
and thank goodness JD. Vance is our vice president and
(00:25):
tie breaker in the Senate it happened. I can't imagine
Mitch McConnell getting a warm reception anywhere he goes in
the state of Kentucky at this point. Norah, Alaska, Murkowski. Yeah,
what Alaska was? I think a thirteen point win for
Trump if I'm not mistaken, I think Kentucky was like
thirty one.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
If I'm Hyeah, he says, I don't care what you
people think. He's on his way out.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I'm here to represent my own And yeah, the people
spoke and said here's what we want. And I don't
call that really representation of the people when you vote,
when you vote directly in opposition to what the people voted.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
So hey, we got a new sworn in senator. The
former Lieutenant governor. Yes, guy, since we have last been
on the air, Bluck Eyes are the national champions.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
That's so good, that is what it's almost. Was it
twenty was it two thousand and two or twenty fourteen
when we had to have this really weird set of
circumstances like Virginia Tech had to lose and the cow
had to jump over the moon and all kinds of
stuff in order for them to get the championship, and
somehow it all happened. And this year kind of felt
like the same way. After the Michigan loss, it was like, oh,
(01:37):
well we're done, and then out of nowhere, just everything
that had to go right went right. It was just it, wow, wonderful.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Yeah, what about you know, you watched how they played
with Michigan and then the games after that. I mean
the quarterback, it was like it was like he had
a rocket on him.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Absolutely, it was.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
It was such a change in his in his game.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Well, there's enough testosterone around this table right now that
I think every one of us understands. Sometimes it takes
getting kicked in the teeth to make you throw your
best punch. And that's what happened to the Buck guys.
They took it hard, and they got up and they
came out swinging like they never swung before.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
And it was a beautiful thing. It was a beautiful
thing to say.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeah, Judkins going to the NFL last night was the cutoff.
I'm not sure who else might have announced.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I'm not so that was good. That's beautiful one. So
that's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Absolutely, we are not the owners. Do you own anything here?
Do you own anything? Okay, we are not the owner's
LPED Firearms and Range and Trading facility. Well, there's one
active law enforcement and there's two guys that just talk
a lot sitting up here. But on Saturdays we all
come together as a group of alleged experts on firearms,
Second Amendment issues and so forth, discussing products on the market,
(02:48):
training opportunities, training tips, and the topics that surround the
Second Amendment Here in these wonderful suddenly wonderful again United
States of America. The commitment of LPD is always to
bring you the facts about the industry the ultimately helped
listeners and customers with safe, responsible ownership of firearms. On
today's show, of course, JC is as you can tell,
(03:08):
he's got his telephone book over here with all the
little pretty highlighter colors. I mean, seriously, if you're watching
on Facebook right now, I need you to see Jc's notes.
He comes in, Harry, it looks like a Pride flag,
it really does. All these colors, all the rainbow colors.
And the guy's got like mountains of stuff to tell
us about. We have at least one gun of the week.
(03:29):
I hear you're you're handling the Gun.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Of the week. I think we have two of them.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Well, I didn't know if you get to both of them,
so I wasn't going to over promise things. I'm a
Republican after all. And Richie, the legendary Ritchie calling after
the botomy are Apparently he has a really cool new job.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Oh boy, yeah, I envy him.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I don't know a thing about it. But Eric said, oh, yes,
you're gonna want to talk to Richie. And next week
show a Shot show wrap up is coming?
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Are you going it's already over? Is it overways? This week?
For four days?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I thought it was like Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
No, it's it's it's just for four days, so it's
over done with it's done.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
And we didn't go again.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yeah, No, I think we got to get you there
and being there, he's not here again. I think he
goes on probation. We need we need some and I
believe the crowd is the one that agreed with me
on that.
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Speaker 2 (04:51):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Speaking of which, we are streaming live on Facebook, also
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cast is always up. If you miss any of the show,
you can always just come back and listen to it
again and again and again because it's always so pleasurable.
So I haven't been here for well, I've been here
one out of like the last six weeks because I
(05:13):
have what I like to call hey life, and so
I've been a little busy. What's going on with you, guys,
jac to my left and.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
The secret you have you're on the road radio here
on Yeah, there you're there. You're just like a busy
kind here.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
At the end of the month, I'll be filling in
on the morning show for Mike. I'm in with Blazer
at three during the week. Now, I still got my
thing at six o'clock. Yeah, it's uh, it's all over
all right, So how's life. What's going on with you?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Oh, everything's good here. Uh. Yeah, it was a kind
of rough week. We lost electricity here at the store
along with you know, everybody else's at the Brown Hunt
or whatever, and then our phones went out the next
day and then so it was a little bit hectic here.
But but everything's good. So uh but news wise, we
we've got some news and uh this is the I
like this one's kind of interesting. Uh So, uh, Trump,
(06:04):
as we know, is already has issued more i think
at a first or second day than than he's done,
more than the President Biden had done in the last
more than President the whole four years. It was just
just amazing. So he was I just yeah, he's amazing. Okay,
So anyway, but he had a flurry of executive orders,
but you know, none were guns specific some we were
(06:24):
hoping for. But he did keep his campaign promise what
he said, and pardoned all the January sixth defendants who
are arrested during the protest, well ironically on Tuesday, so
the one wasn't. His name is Daniel Ball, so he
got clemency for the protest period of time. But the
next day he's arrested and pending a federal gun charges.
(06:47):
So apparently he was the floor to me. And he
was the first of January sixth rider to face additional troubles.
Apparently under his new indictment. He had two previous convictions. Convictions,
so he was a felon domestic violence by battery and
strangulation back in twenty seventeen and battering and resisting law
(07:09):
enforcement with violence in October of twenty one. And I
guess being in the Hootskio for this time, they didn't
have a chance to really you know, serve he was
three years Yeah, well he was already in jail. So
but anyway, so as soon as he stepped out, so
he got arrested on federal gun charge of being a
convicted violent felon. It's going to be interesting arm.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I think the reason they found the firearm though, was
a search due to the January sixth conviction, wasn't it that?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
I do not know. I just went until he was
he was clemency for the riot, and then yes.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Pardon sponges January sixth, and there then there was no
reason to do the search. Therefore he should not have
had that weapon discovered. A good lawyer may get him
out of this.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
I'm just saying it depends on what that.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Part convict did fellon. Yeah, and he wasn't there was
no clemency for what he had done in the past.
So uh so anyway, yeah, well I'll be interested in
reporting that. That's yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
So this whole thing's going to result with all these parts.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Here's some big news and this is uh I gave
it a round of applause. We know that that Stephen
Dadelbach is gone as the director of the ATF. Yay, I'll
even give that an applause. And in his place right
now is Marvin Richardson. Now he's back on top. He
didn't get this through the efforts of of President Trump.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
He got it just by the fact that the one
guy's gone, we have to have a director. So he
was in acting. Uh he's an acting director. So in fact,
he was a former acting director at the top under Biden.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
And uh, it's it's it's funny. Even though he's the
acting director, he's still only listed as of yesterday as
a deputy director. But the importance of this one was
he has been here uh four uh in this role,
and he was there under under Biden. But Biden decided
he wasn't tough enough for what he wanted, and he
(09:11):
was demoted from the acting director to bring detlback in.
And this sparked a backlash because he's black and black
law enforcement and gun rights groups both were really upset
that they that Biden got rid of him as acting
director and put Deedelbuck in there. So Richardson's been criticized.
(09:31):
He's kind of both sides of the ball here. Uh,
the anti the gun control activists. That's what they pushed
to get rid of him. They wanted really harder policies
than they argued that Richardson was too cozy with the
gun industry, so as a matter of fact, they accused
him of slow walking Biden's rules on on toughening gun restrictions,
(09:56):
and The New York Times even described him at the
time as a end quote an industry friendly subordinate, pumping
the brakes on Biden's gun control policies. So they got
rid of him. Biden got rid of him and brought
in dentleback. But gun rights activists also have criticized him.
So he's kind of middle of the road because they
claimed that Richardson was actually the driving force behind the
(10:19):
efforts to make pistol braced firearms like we have sitting
up here and here, and he wanted them to be
short barreled rifles, which are nff NFA required tax stamp
background all that, so they're treated like machine guns, even
though there's some automatics. So anyway, so he had that
both both of those things going away that way. So anyway,
(10:42):
so we don't know what President Trump is going to do.
Maybe he's going to wait for the Attorney General to
come in, but you know, right now he's back as
the acting director. And anyway, so.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Has old Marvin at least driven past a gun store
at some point in his life.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Oh, he's a he's a good guy. I mean I
actually thought he was a. He he's a pretty good guy.
And he like, like I said, he's he's prone enough
gun that h that he is actually advocated for some
uh some gun positive gun changes. And they said that
he actually uh attends fun shows, goes to and speaks
with the the industry, and he's right out there, you know,
(11:23):
making contact with him. So he's kind of, uh, like
I said, the middle of the road. And they said
that that's what if Bondi gets in, They said that
that's what she's looking for, is uh somebody that uh
that will be a law enforcement more person than a
political uh activist if she gets in, I guess she's
not not confirmed yet.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Well you can argue about the policy and the politics later.
At least somebody who understands and and maybe even owns
firearms running the agency is a good idea.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah, well that's I would think. So we haven't had that,
so yeah, she the quote is here she advocates for
a non political law enforcement official to run the AT
But in any case, he's certainly a lot better than
Thattleback was. But in speaking of the ATF, you know,
you still have snakes in the foxhole that we have
to get rid of. Eric happened to text me just
(12:13):
about a half an hour ago saying, hey, did you
see this. Well, the President Trump said, hey, we got
to get get rid of all the DEI you know,
officials in every agency. We're done with that. You know,
we judge people in their character and what they can
do in their abilities. So he said every one of
them should be put off on every federal agency should
be put on leave. Well, the ATF had a DEI soul,
(12:39):
a person that to run DEI in the ATF, and
they had one on Tuesday, but once they heard what
Trump was doing, they immediately took her and changed her
title to senior executives. So on their website she went
from being the DEI officer for the ATF IS and
now she's listed as So the people in there that
are still trying to undermine and do these things are
(12:59):
still there, and that just shows you what kind of
condition the at F has been in.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
So all right, more government smoking beer, is changing names,
keeping everything else to say.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
There's some we'll get some quick one. We got a
few to go home.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah, you can get one more quick one in there.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
There's still stuff that's going on. This is just crazy
to me. Colorado lawmakers have introduced their Colorado Senate Bill three,
introduced by a senator of course, and then a representative
also co sponsored. This bill would be in the manufacture,
the distribution, transfer sale for all semi automatic weapons that
(13:42):
would take a detachable magazine. You could have no semi
automatic weapons that would take a detachable magazine.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Wait wait, wait, wait wouldn't that would that not be
all semi automatic world?
Speaker 2 (13:53):
But yeah, well right, well now not the new PR. Yeah,
the PR fifty seven that the celt came out with,
which is an internal magazine. Uh that's maybe that's why
they came out with it. But anyway, they just said
this would compromise the overwhelming majority of the handguns and
rifles shotguns that would take magazines. So it same only
(14:13):
bold action rifles, lever action rifles that break, break action rifles,
and shotguns, pump shotguns, and revolvers that would be all
that would be left in Colorado. So that's actually been
introduced as a bill that just shows you the madness
that this woke society still.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Say in the Colorado Legislature is Rocky Mountain High?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Yeah, that I would say.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
The wonderful, glorious Windy City Chicago, Illinois.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Boy, I'll tell you what you cannot You just can't
go a day without hearing the bs that comes out
of that city. We got since the as of today,
one hundred people shot in January already. Wow, twenty seven
murders and that's all in the first twenty five days
of the year.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
They're they're up. They're up there for a new rep.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I hope that we do not try to hang for
Capita with him again this year, because last year was
a bad enough year. Last night, I was listening to
the scanner because I'm a boring person, and I was
listening to Columbus police on a pursuit from Southwest Columbus
some of the tenement apartments over on the southwest side,
shooting apparently into an apartment, and the dirt balls, three
(15:22):
dirt balls, fled in a car. They went all over
my beloved west side, through residential neighborhoods, hilltop streets, and
so forth, got themselves to West Broad Sullivan Avenue, hit.
Seventy bailed on the ramp at the Parsons ramp there
at Children's Hospital. One of them apparently got in the hospital,
so they set up a perimeter on Livingston Avenue. They
(15:44):
got the hospital surrounded. They catch one on the ramp,
another one fleeing on foot, thinking you're gonna run on
the freeway. I'm a bad guy. And so all three
of them were caught last night, Thank goodness, So good
job Columbus Police Department. The chop was in the air,
and I heard three different precincts on the scanner that
all responded to this thing and got these guys wrapped
(16:06):
up in a hurry. And last I heard this morning
is about eight hours or eight o'clock this morning. There
were no incidents of anybody getting hit by the gunfire, which.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Is good, Thank goodness for that. That's good.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
But yeah, let's not have a let's not have a
Chicago year in Columbus's gotta take a break here. We
will be back plenty more. Jc's got more and more
news and it's and it is it is multicolored news.
And and Richie Jeckson after the bottom of the hour
you're listening to on Target from l e PD Firearms Range,
nine ninety nine Bethel Road on six to ten WTV.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Hey I miss you.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I missed you too, OWT. I think this is actually
the first song I ever heard the Stones do when
I was a kid. Really really, I think I think so.
And it was followed by I know it's only rock
and roll, but I like it. I don't know why
that popped into my head. Well, welcome back. This is
on target from LAPD Firearms and Range. We are at
nine ninety nine Bethel Road and by the way, just
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I want to let you know. I know it's cold
right now, people don't want to come out. Everybody's kind
of in hibernation mode and so forth. But as it
warms up, they get out, get more active. And we
do have you know, chairs in here and in studio audience,
if you will, which basically.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Almost the full hostage today, and.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
It's a wonderful thing. Usually because Tom has donuts, but
he didn't bring the donuts today, excuse you know how
he is. But usually Tom brings in donuts and we
get a nice little crowd out here, so you're always
welcome to come out and and just kind of hang
out during the show Saturdays at noon here at nine
ninety nine Bethel Road. If you miss any of the
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that cover everything?
Speaker 3 (18:02):
We get a lot of people out there talking about
Facebook is cutting in and out and you, guys, I'm sorry.
We wish we could change that. It's unfortunate that that's happening.
I can only tell you to just get old six
' ten w out and listen to us on the radio.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Yeah, And I don't know. Facebook has been really weird,
especially since Zuckerberg came to this revelation that maybe people
should be a lowed to post things they don't agree with.
I'll be watching a cat video, I mean, something completely innocuous,
and ten seconds in it stops and you scroll on
to the next video, and then you go back to
the cat video and then it goes again. It doesn't
(18:38):
matter where I'm on my cell data, whether I'm on
the radio station Wi Fi my home Wi Fi. It
does it all the time.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
I don't get it either.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Not just off two weeks ago because I was talking
the gu N word and demonstrating.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Knocked you off for saying that. That's what Eric said.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
He said, they just he said, they just dropped us,
violated the first stand I thought they were going to
be speech free. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Maybe that'll change with this rise of artificial intelligence. And
you have to be a Star Trek fan to understand
what I'm about to say. But every time I see
Mark Zuckerberg, I see Lieutenant Commander Data with messy hair,
and I'm just wondering, could he be AI generated? Maybe
maybe he is an android because he reminds me of Data.
(19:29):
We got time here, probably before the bottom of the
art for a couple of more news stories, if you
have anything for it.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
So yeah, talk about this was a news of the
what would be weird? But this was a in Pennsylvania,
Uh They a Democratic of course. A state representative named
Amen Brown introduced a bill in the Commonwealth that would
require anyone attending a gun show to show personal identification.
(19:59):
The show motor must then make a copy of that
ID and keep it for five years, and if it passes,
they must also turn those records over to the office
of the Attorney General of Pennsylvania or in any county prosecutor,
ammunisp police department upon request. And there's no you don't
have to have a reason for it. You could just say, yeah,
(20:20):
there's a gun show of town. I want to know
I'm wrong.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Is PA not one of the ones that said you
didn't need an ID to vote?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yeah, of course, yeah. Anything.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Now they want you to show an ID ID to
to go to a gun gun.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah, to go to a gun show. Yeah, I want
to buy a holster and I want to go there,
and I want your ID and we're going to keep
that and then anyone who wants it of Attorney General,
we're going to send it to them and you know,
any uh. Just so they said there's probably a little
chance of a passing, but the fact that they're introducing
this just absolutely crazy, crazy crazy.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
I'm pretty sure even John Fetterman would think that was stupid.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Yeah, I would. I agree, he's kind of seen some
of the light. Uh. Just we're gonna give you this
a couple of perks because the show is over. The
Shot Show is over, and we're not going to discuss
these in great detail. However, I'm going to tell you
about some of the things that happened that were pretty
interesting at the shot show. So some of the one
(21:12):
that seemed to actually have the most response was this
Celtech and it's called the PR fifty seven. So lightweight.
It's hammer fire, but it's internals. You don't see the hammer.
It has the it's a rotating barrel and it locks
up at the end of the barrel. So we look
at the slide, it looks like it has all these
star cuts in it, but that's where the barrel locks up.
(21:33):
It rotates what helps cut down in the recoil. It
weighed so it's so light, it's like thirteen ounces that
they said they it was a horrible day at shot show.
On range day. They said it was low forties, high
winds which were feeding the fires out west, and they
said the gun was so light. They she had videos
of them blowing off of the table and all the
(21:57):
targets are blown down. But they did that was a
said it's a bad range day, but it's very very
interesting gun. And because it's the manufacturer suggested retail is
three ninety nine, so it'll be sold for less than that,
and everyone seems to want one the other one. That's
really interesting in folks, you should just look this up.
It's hard to even describe it, but there's a you know,
(22:18):
the high tech and very expensive guns are made by ZEV'SEV.
They do a lot of You can take a glock
and they just go over the slide and it looks
like something fronder space. Well, they combined with a magpole
and they came out with their f DP, which is
their folding defense platform. It actually looks like a gun case.
(22:38):
It is rectangular. It's only ten in three quarters inches long.
I mean we're talking like a sheet of paper is
a bit smaller than this. And the handle is actually
it's a little more squared off than you can see
on a typical ar handle. But when you carry it, it
looks like that. But you hit a button at pops
(22:59):
open almost instantly to the stock. It's got this and
you your pistol grip is there. Take seventeen round block
magazines and it just you hit the button and it
pops open and uh open. It's only twenty inches long
and it's this incredible little little pistol. But you really
need to look at the video. I watched it a
(23:19):
couple of times even this morning before I came, uh,
it's it's cool. Video is cool because that's fast paced
rock rock songs going on. Why about twenty different guys
at the range are going you popping it up and
and anyway. But it's called the ZEV, the the Folding
Defense Platform, the f d P.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
But really strange, it sounds like a Maxwell Smart guy.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Yeah, you know what, I was just thinking, that's like
I was going there. I was going with what's this
face inspector gadget, Yeah, which was the cartoon version of
Maxwell Smart basically run.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Seventeen hundred bucks. But you to just have to watch
it and see it. I think it even comes with
a with a telephone in a shoe. It's gonna come
with that. I don't know if it comes with that
or not.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
And when you aim, you'll never hit what you're trying
to hit, but then you get to say missed it
by that much.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Rifle pistol and carbe.
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You gotta take a break here for the bottom of
the ur news. JC has more Richies checking in and
uh and I still got to find out what's going
on with it because I haven't had a chance to
talk to him. This is on target on six ten
WTV yet didn't care for that watch at all, but hey,
we've got standing by right now. On the on the
(24:53):
phone is I always get him described as my buddy
Richie right, never a last name. I know he's got
a new job, don't.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Know what it.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
It's always Eric's buddy. It's Eric's buddy. He's not our buddy.
I don't even know why he's calling us.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
He's oury buddy, buddy, my buddy, Ritchie. Are you everybody's
buddy or just there?
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Well, you know I am everyone's buddy. I mean, Eric
has photographs of me that I don't want to get
out to the media, so I have to be his
special buddy. But look at this for the record, gentlemen.
You know I'm a you know, a soldier that follows orders,
and the commander a chief told me to call it
exactly twelve thirty five, and that is exactly why I'm
not called. Oh yes, I am very when you when
(25:32):
you launch a mission and they tell you launch a
twelve thirty five not a minute sooner. But anyways, I
am here. I'm everyone's friend. How you guys doing today?
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, I've lood to hear from you.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
We're told that you've got some kind of cool new
job that we all need to know about for some reason.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
What are you doing?
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Well? Do you remember when Charlie Bucket got the Wonka
factory how excited he was. Yes, well, I got twenty
years of working in the firearms industry, and I started
my career working at Sega Special Weapons. So I've gone
on the Shot Show a dozen and a half times,
working with Block and you know, selling the law enforcement.
So everything's been modern. I now took a job and
(26:08):
I've been there since July, and I work for a
company right here in Manchester, New Hampshire, about two point
four miles away from where I live. It is called
the Amuskeg Auction Company, and everyone is familiar with Rock
Island and some of the other auction houses that are
out there. Amaskeg's been around for twenty seven years. There's
a job posting that came up as a firearms specialist
(26:31):
and someone sent me the listening because I was unemployed.
Long story and a Richard, you're perfect with the job,
and I'm like, you know what, Yes, I am. I
am an expert specialist. I know myself. And fifteen minutes
into the interview, I realized that I didn't know check
because there are, with no exaggeration, I'm gonna throw this
(26:52):
number up in the air, half a million different variations
of firearms that have been created over the last couple centuries,
from sporting to recreational to military, trap shooting, side by sides,
over and unders, drilling rifles and not even clumbing handguns,
and just all sorts of variations. And I am literally
(27:13):
in a pool, like the pool of what they call
those little balls the kids jump into. Well, that's what
I do every day, is I go to work and
I jump into a pool of guns, and I have
seen some of the most amazing firearms I never thought
I would ever ever see or hold.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
You're getting paid for this.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
I am, I am, it is. It's amazing, amazing job.
The stuff that sits on my table on a regular
basis is just amazing. I mean I have handled the
shotgun that was monogrammed and owned by Audie Murphy, and
everyone knows who Audie Murphy is. I have also handled
a revolver that was Teddy Roosevelt single Action Army that
(27:53):
he took up San Juan Hill with the rough Riders.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
And rich Man. Uh, he's my hero, man. I'd love
to see that that you got to handle it?
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Are you? Can you conduct like tours for your buddies and.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Stuff to make the listen. There's there's a there's a
museum up here. One of the top five Class three
owners uh in the United States. His store is not
far from here. He's a he's a gun shop. Actually,
I had the pleasure of inviting Ian McCullum from Forgotten
Weapons dot Com to come up here. It'll be three
(28:28):
years this July, and I spent the entire weekend with
me and you know what. He is exactly like he
is in the videos. No, no deviation of personality. Great guy,
and we fed him better than he's ever been fed,
and he had a great time. And I actually had
an opportunity to be a cameraman for him when he
was shooting one of the videos and he freaked me
(28:50):
out because he turned to me and says, well, what
do you think, mister cameraman? Should we got out and
you know, look at the target. And if you ever
watch his videos, historically he doesn't talk to the cameraman.
Life froze.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
And I'm like, sure, hey, Richie, I'm thinking about you
last night and today I've stumbled across something at the
online from the Shot show and I said, oh my goodness.
As soon as I saw it, I said, Richie, Richie, Ritchie,
I want this gun. Richie would want this gun. We
won't have it. But you're probably I don't know if
(29:23):
you even aware of it, but US Armament Manufacturing just
did a clone of the Delile, the Delile commando carbing
and we made one hundred and twenty nine of these originally.
And I don't know if you've seen it before, but
I just went to I saw it because it's based
on a on a SML E number one Mark three chassis,
(29:45):
but it's got an integral suppressor and it's bold action
and they it made it in forty five ACP only
magazine fed They said it was probably the quietest suppressed
firearm ever made. But when you'll look at that back end,
it's just our one of our just our favorite, our
favorite sml E. Look to it and John anyway, John,
(30:08):
I have.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
To stop here. But you know, for us dummies, what
is SMLI.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Short Magazine Lee infield. It's it's a rifle that the
British Army used for sixty two years. It was their
main battle rifle in different configurations. But helps me, Ritchie
is this is his, this is his, that's his BAILI Wick,
he loves us. I love this gun. And but when
I saw this, h yeah, Ritchie knows what I'm talking about.
But yeah, it looks so cool. At six thousand grand
(30:34):
or seven, we won't be able to own that was
not all anyway, but you have to see it.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
It's cool.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Were you at show, Richie, because you know none of
us were.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Well, no, and I'm grateful that I'm not there. If
you've done a dozen or so shows as a vendor.
It is twelve hours on your feet, shaking a lot
of hands, a lot of close talkers. It literally is
the world's largest peatree dish because ninety percent of everyone
that comes home as the Shot Show flew. Now I'm
(31:02):
not even exaggerating. Everyone that leaves the show ends up
getting sick because you're just in the face with all
sorts of people. But do you know what happens right
after the Shot Show in Vegas? Well, yes there is,
but there was also the Las Vegas Antique Arm Show,
which is going on right this weekend. And this is
(31:24):
antique heaven of everything you guys could possibly imagine, from
Cole to Smith and Weston Winchester, huge boots and Class
three items. But it is just it's massive. I don't
think it's the size and I can probably say comfortably
it's not the size off the Shot Show. You've ever
been there. It's massive, but it's got you know, dozens
(31:47):
and dozens of vendors that are down there. It's quite large.
But no, I actually stayed home because someone had to
keep the candle burning at the office and continue writing
and stuff like that. JC getting back to your comment
about the Deliah, there has actually been a company for
the last ten to twelve years making a copy, and
it's called Valkyrie. And you can buy a fake suppressor
(32:10):
or a real suppressor and believe it not, it's custom
built and it's under three grand.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Wow. So that's it. Yeah. I hadn't heard of that one.
When I saw this one that was, you know, one
of the featured unusual guns at the shot Show and
US Army Manufacturing. I looked up they were in Houston,
sold nineteen sixty five, and I know I only made
one hundred and twenty nine of them, so I don't
think there's too many out there. But it's such a
cool gun. It's only nineteen inches long, pulled action, suppressed
(32:36):
gun forty five, and it's just one of the coolest
things that I said that Richie would love to have
one of these in this gun, say, but ill the Valkyrie.
I'm going to look that one up too. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Yeah, I am. I am still patiently waiting for my
Vickers to be completed, which the last time I spoke
to Midwest Metalworks, who was doing the restoration program on it,
I'm supposed to beginning it back this month, So I'm
like an expecting father waiting for his child to come home.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yeah, that would be an expensive little child, and I
would take boy, that's that's phenomenal. Yeah yeah, but.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
It's just amazing. But I'll be honest with you. I
actually the job has impacted my relationship with Eric because
we used to talk all the time, and unfortunately I'm
just full time working. But getting into the antique industry
working at Amiskek Auction has been a completely different experience
because you're seeing these vintage guns coming in. Unfortunately, some
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people are getting up there in their ages and you know,
getting up here in their eighties, and they're selling the
guns because their kids don't want the guns, or unfortunately
they're passing away, and then they have instructions to bring
me their their collection to Amiskek. We just picked up
a collection that's probably valued over five million dollars.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
The Gentleman's house was forty two hundred square feet. His
entire base was the same footprint as the house, and
it was a museum he had built downstairs. And he
knew the curator at Smith and Wesson and also Springfield Omri.
So the prototype one of a kind gun that he
has is just unbelievable. It's like, yeah, I'll give it one.
(34:19):
One example, there is a from the Craig rifle that
we used Spanish American War into the nineteen o three
there was a prototype. There is one of one nineteen
o three twenty eight inch barrel chambered in thirty one.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
That we have.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
On yeap oh. We also have that just as a man,
a Mark four Webley revolver that is engraved white star
line the famous manufacturer the Titanic. Yes, and there's only
two other known in existence, and one is an in
England Museum English Museum and the other ones in the
(35:03):
Scottish Museum. So we have that one coming up for auction.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Well, Richie, now that we're all very very jealous of you,
you have to go, but congratulations on the new job.
Enjoy every single minute of it. It sounds like you will.
And we're going to take the final break here and
try to hit at least one gun of the week
when we get back. This is on target on six
to n wutv N. That's not word up man, that's
(35:34):
a Janet right there, baby, who's who's back to work again.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Yes she is.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
She's a I think out in Vegas. I miss her.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Oh, actually she's staying out in Vegas.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
I think, yeah, doing a residency thing. Well this is
where did that go?
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Ella?
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Your record is scratched? Just just so you know. The
gun oh the week. There's a couple up here on
the counter and JC, I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you
if you would like to pick your favorite, just in
case we only get through one of it, which one
would you like.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
To think about? But if you're watching online, both of
these are a ar pistols. And if you look at
the one, I mean, I'm shocked it's a pistol because
because yeah, well it's very expensive. It's a Geistly uh
and I can't reach out if it's very heavy, all
Geistly made, and therefore it is very expensive. But that
(36:28):
has an eleven and a half inch barrel, and it
does have the arm brace.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
On it, yes, and.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
That qualifies as a pistol. But I would never have
guessed that at that. It just it's it's massive.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
And the barrel link determines pistol versus rifle, right.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Yea, if it's if it's under sixteen inches, then it's
a pistol, or else a short barreled rifle or or
you know that. That's how they're classified. So the ATF,
many many years ago says a rifle's got to be
sixteen inches or longer. If it's less than sixteen inches,
it's a pistol. So some of the long rain shooting
the old days, they would make, you know, fifteen and
a half fifteen and three quarter inch pistols for long
(37:04):
range target shooting in particular. But so other than that,
if you have a rifle and it's not sixteen inches,
then it's a short barreled rifle tax stamp, you know that,
just just like you're buying a machine gunt, even though
it could be a you know, just one of these.
So this this was made a long time ago, but
now they're making them now, and it's this was made
(37:24):
by DPMs, and it's the Panther and it's called the
the just like they named it what you originally called
the kitty Cat. This has got so it's a pistol
because it's got a seven and a half inch barrel,
and this is an arm brace. It doesn't have the
brace things on it yet, which is required other than that,
if it's a stock, then it's a short barreled rifle.
(37:45):
But if it has the ability to attach around your
arm to support and you know, after a lot of
people are injurers don't want to be able to shoot,
and so they came up with the idea of making
an arm brace, which works really well with the collapsible
kind of stack stock. But if you use it like this,
(38:06):
and that's predominantly how you're using it, it's a short
burrowed rifle and you could actually be charged with a
federal offense of having if you put on the trap,
it's okay, right, and but you also see this not
meant to go against your shoulder. It's very very thin
for those on the back, and it's not comfortable. But
let's face it, when you look at that one, that's
one of the determinations on the On the other most
(38:27):
of the stocks are like that. You can see what's
that paraphernalia in the back. That's the arm strap. You
put your arm in its straps that you're able to
shoot right crystal right one handed. There's many folks there
that just you know, don't abide by the laws, like
stop signs, and like taking short barreled rifles. But this
is just seven and a half inch barrel and it's
the old fashioned uh, you know ar with the carry
(38:50):
handle which does not come off. So it's just this
is this is how you carry it. So Vietnam vets
will certainly from the early days will certainly recognize that.
So very cool. Two two three. You can actually carry
this in your car. Difference right there, right, there's a difference.
It is a pistol. So I would say that if
you're having around in a bad neighborhood, this would be
(39:11):
a very impressive, impressive pistol. To have laying out on your.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Loaded AR fifteen rifle in your car makes you a criminal.
This does not.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
And that's a big deal. And that is a big deal.
And I mean it's absolutely it's it's you know, it's
this is actually reasonable. It is six fifty fifty yeah,
and uh and you know it does have it's you
know stock that extends out, except it's not really a stock.
It's the handbrace that extends out that is technically classified
as the same thing. You could also have that in
(39:44):
your car, but I can't even imagine maneuver that at all.
But that is also a pistol, and a very expensive
one because Geisley makes us top top, top notch. All
the competitors use the Geistly trigger for the I would
say probably ninety some percent of them in the in
the matches that they have up camp Perry thing.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
But do you lose Do you lose anything as far
as performance, accuracy, distance, anything with the ar pistol versus
an ar rifle.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Not really. I have one that kel Tech makes, and
one of the reasons I bought it was because they're like,
here's this pistol's got a nine point nine a quarter
inch barrel, actually nine point two inches, And I read
two different magazines, Reputable Magazine, Ones, American riflem Ones was Guns,
and they tested a bench just on the bench where
(40:32):
you were holding it. They got nine sixteenths of an
inch groups out of the one and a three quarter
at one hundred yards with this nine. So I ended
up buying one in the early days when it first
came out. I just can't believe how accurate it is.
So that's it's a kel Tech and it's their PLR sixteen.
(40:57):
But anyway, but they're accurate. You lose velocity, But this
isn't a long range gun. You wouldn't go hunting with
something like this at a far distance.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
And that'd be a great, great gun.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
And it's really reasonable, so folks, you know, like we're
talking like, you know, it's a tick less than six
hundred and fifty bucks if brand new DPMs, which makes great, great, great,
great things and takes all the accessories that you would
if you want to change a hand grip or or
do anything. I love the I still love that old
carry handle.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
You know, what's the weight on that?
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Probably about four yeah, probably less than five pounds.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
And these are in stuff now, yeah and there, yeah,
it's here right now. Those are going to go quickly. Nice.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
That one's you know, over twenty four hundred bucks, so
that one is a very expensive cost, you know, really
quality gun. But yeah, stop in L. E. P. D
Firearms Range nine nine to nine Bethel Road and come
in and see these.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
You got anything going on this week, you gotta plug fast,
like in five second.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Uh this weekend, this week, this week, well we're gonna
be talking about getting ready to talk about shot show
once Aaron comes back for next week. Over stuff. So anyway,
all right, well let's be careful,
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