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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Let's bring in Alex Stone, ABC News to give us
the latest on the five that are charged in connection
with matt Perry's death. When I saw this headline today, Alex,
I was like, what is going on here?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
This is crazy?
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Yeah, so pretty not what they unveiled today, Mark, did
they say? This was a broad underground criminal network that
was distributing large amounts of ketamine to to Perry and others,
so much so that somebody else had died a couple
of years ago. But they kept going and didn't only
involve drug dealers, but two medical doctors as well were
the ones who could get the ketamine and some of
(00:37):
the other drugs then sell it essentially as part of
this ring that they were allegedly in to a woman
who was known as the Ketamine Queen, who when they
went into her home, they alleged that she had just
a whole emporium of drugs and could sell people just
about anything. But what they allege is this ring of
(00:59):
five who were arrested and now charged that this was
a network that would do anything to make money, that
they kept going even though they knew that they were
putting Matthew Perry in danger because he was willing to
pay for it. He had the money, he had the
addiction that he had fallen back into, and wanted to
do anything for it. Martine Strada, the US attorney, said.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
This network included a living assistant, various go betweens, two
medical doctors, and a major source of drug supply known
as quote the Ketamine Queen.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
And they say in two months he bought twenty vials
of ketamine in for fifty five thousand dollars in cash.
They it only cost them twelve dollars a vial. They
were charging him two thousand dollars of vial to get
it in. One of these doctors, a medical doctor, even
texting that he couldn't believe how much Perry would pay
for the ketamine that he would get say.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
He wrote in a text message in September twenty twenty three,
quote I wonder how much this moron will pay?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
And they say he was just willing. He kneeds he
did the kademie, he thought he needed it, and they
were just pumping him full allegedly of this stuff. Now
facing a long list of charges for illegal drug distribution,
but he says, look, they knew it was dangerous.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
These defendants took advantage of mister Perry's addiction issues to
enrich themselves. They knew what they were doing was wrong.
They knew what they were doing was risking great danger
to mister Perry, but they did it anyway.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
They allegedly tried to cover it up. They told each
other to delete all the messages, all their text messages.
But in the end they could be looking at one
hundred and twenty years in federal prison, some of them
life in prison. But it was, according to prosecutors today,
he was their piggy bank, and the more he wanted,
the more that they would get them.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Man, there's a lot of questions with this for me
because they're talking about one point, federal officials excuse me,
believe the drugs became too expensive and he switched to
a new source. And it's just like that guy, he's
crazy rich, right, I mean, he had a lot of money,
I thought, just from the whole friends thing. So that
to me, it was just like what when I when
(03:06):
I saw that. And the other thing was they're talking
about deleting messages and all that.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
It's too late.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I mean, think about all the receipts that are connected
guarantee when they found him dead.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
The people connected to this.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Were all probably going, I wish I had my brown
pants on today.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
You know, right, they were immediately trying to tie it
up for sure, but uh yeah. And on the how
much he would spend, I mean, he was going through
a lot of money using this group, so he was
trying to find somebody else because he in two months
spent fifty five thousand dollars and yeah, it's going to
go pretty quick through a year. And I don't think
he had a ton of money anymore. I mean, he
wasn't poor, but you know, he was making money off
(03:42):
of residuals. Nobody was hiring him for anything anymore. But
he was claiming that he was no longer addicted. And
but it looks like in the fall of twenty twenty
three he went back into it and had an assistant,
and the assistant knew some people, and they knew some
doctors who could get it, who wanted to make money,
and allegedly, you know, they took him down the wrong
(04:04):
road and he wanted more, and they kept giving him more.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Man yet another really sad angle to an already sad story.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
There's no question about that.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Alex Stone ABC News, Alex, thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
You got it.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Thanks Mark, see you man, Yeah you were we talked
about this one at all, kind of you know when
he passed and all of that, and it was drowning,
right is what happened? I thought, Yeah, I mean essentially
he got he was in the hot tub.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
He was found I think.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
I mean, Kenny, mean's what they put you to knock
you out in the hospital. That's what they you know,
when you're in the operating room. So he he was
in the hot tub and passed out and went under
and then yeah, so it wasn't necessarily the drug per
se like getting well, right, it wasn't just what it
(04:53):
was the drug per se that killed hy Houston.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Either, right.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
She ended up drowning in the mouth tub as well.
Yeah I'm not as well, but drowning as well. So yep,
so there it is five charged in that. Uh. You
know what's funny is like, let's delete those things when
you suh pena the you know, the phone records or whatever.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
You can delete them all your want.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
They're not going to be on the device, but they're
going to be part of From what I understand that
you're still able to find that.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Stuffeah, you know what? Have you? So five people charged?
Excuse me in that.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
What?
Speaker 1 (05:30):
And we mentioned it earlier just quickly, but this is
pretty big news that Will Howard, Canada State transfer was
named the Buckeyes starting quarterback by Ryan Day. I have
to be honest, I haven't really been following this very closely. Uh,
and I don't know how closely you've been following it.
But do you do you even have any thoughts on this?
(05:51):
I mean, clearly you trust the coaches depict you know,
the best guy.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
I thought that was the reason we brought him in
from the transfer poor role was to be the starting
quarterback because you know, we didn't have I literally connect
who was Kyle McCord. That's how forgettable of a quarterback
he was? Uh, last year he's had Syracuse. Devin Bush
hasn't done anything to im practice, so or Devin Brown?
(06:19):
Would I say, Devin Bush, that's another football player?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Pro player? Yeah, pro player.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
The the thing about, uh the Buckeyes is we have
three five star quarterbacks sitting behind Will Howard and Brown
were rich as they say Brown, I would be stunned
if Brown doesn't transfer at some point this season, I
think they he's gonna and one of these that you
(06:48):
got Aaron Nolan, you got that quarterback, Julian saying you,
I mean, dude, there's and then then.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
The keenholes is how you say it, kind of keyholes.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Lincoln keyholes, Lincoln keenholes. He's but I mean, I'm just
telling you, we got.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
An embarrassment of riches.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
It is stupid how many quarterbacks are in that room.
I think I think Devin Brown's gotta go. I think
he should. I think he deserves a chance to start.
By the way, I'm not saying it like he's a bum.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Gut him out of here. I don't like him.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Yeah, he's been hurt. He's been hurt twice. He can't
really seem to stay on the field much. And the
other thing is he's been he's been got a great attitude.
Brown's been a great teammate and he's not once made
a fuss a stink, you know, never never drawn attention
(07:41):
to himself, Always about the team. And I think many
schools would be very lucky to have a guy like
Devin Brown be their starting quarterback.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Will Howard has the most touchdown passes in Kansas State history.
Just a little bit of background on him in case
you haven't really been following along.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Kind of like me.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I mean, I've been looking at thirty thousand foot Vie
kind of watch him, but not but not really. Forty
eight touchdowns after he tied the school single season record
with twenty four in twenty twenty three, and then there's
some other metrics here that they have about him. He
also led Kansas State to a Big twelve championship.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
So he's a guy who I.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Feel like just based on that, the spotlight and the
pressure of that particular thing. Now it's different in the
Big ten, clearly, it's a different animal. And so on
coming here to OSU, you hope that the time that
he has spent so far from the portal has has
really and you know, he knows, he understands what this
(08:43):
whole OSU machine is about and what's behind all of
this and the tradition and all that. But you know what,
I would be shocked if he wasn't, because you can't
be a college a successful college football quarterback in Kansas
State and understand the rich history that's behind the Ohio
State and blah blah blah and all of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
So I feel like he's got a grasp on all
of that.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Again, not that it's the same kind of pressure that
he was dealing with in at Kansas State and you know,
getting the historical records and leading them to a big
twelve championship, but I think he's probably very securely aware
of the way things is.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
This just tells me things are working out the way
they should. And I'm so excited for this Buckeye football
season to get here. I mean, we're going to have
a two versus three matchup in week six or seven
when we play it, we go out to Oregon.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
That's going to be exciting.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
I just I can't wait to beat Michigan again finally
and go back to the way it was and the
way it should be, which is where week six. Yeah,
I just don't know, as they may aware the fact
that we beat Michigan eighteen on the twenty games in
a twenty game stretch from two thousand and one through
win twenty nineteen. Why why because somebody chicken out. Somebody
(10:11):
chickened out the COVID remember.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
That, what do you want to play?
Speaker 5 (10:16):
We beat you guys, twenty eighteen out of twenty games.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
And none of that matters to coach Day right now,
none of it matters because he's he's on the chopping
block if he doesn't pull off the victory.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Only between two thousand I'll say it again, through from
the two thousand and one season all the way to
the through the twenty nineteen season, Michigan won't beat US twice.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
That's twenty games.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
They beat US twice two thousand and three and twenty eleven.
Vrabel was the interim coach after Trust got fired, trafficking
weather together from days
Let's bring in Alex Stone, ABC News to give us
the latest on the five that are charged in connection
with matt Perry's death. When I saw this headline today, Alex,
I was like, what is going on here?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
This is crazy?
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Yeah, so pretty not what they unveiled today, Mark, did
they say? This was a broad underground criminal network that
was distributing large amounts of ketamine to to Perry and others,
so much so that somebody else had died a couple
of years ago. But they kept going and didn't only
involve drug dealers, but two medical doctors as well were
the ones who could get the ketamine and some of
(00:37):
the other drugs then sell it essentially as part of
this ring that they were allegedly in to a woman
who was known as the Ketamine Queen, who when they
went into her home, they alleged that she had just
a whole emporium of drugs and could sell people just
about anything. But what they allege is this ring of
(00:59):
five who were arrested and now charged that this was
a network that would do anything to make money, that
they kept going even though they knew that they were
putting Matthew Perry in danger because he was willing to
pay for it. He had the money, he had the
addiction that he had fallen back into, and wanted to
do anything for it. Martine Strada, the US attorney, said.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
This network included a living assistant, various go betweens, two
medical doctors, and a major source of drug supply known
as quote the Ketamine Queen.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
And they say in two months he bought twenty vials
of ketamine in for fifty five thousand dollars in cash.
They it only cost them twelve dollars a vial. They
were charging him two thousand dollars of vial to get
it in. One of these doctors, a medical doctor, even
texting that he couldn't believe how much Perry would pay
for the ketamine that he would get say.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
He wrote in a text message in September twenty twenty three,
quote I wonder how much this moron will pay?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
And they say he was just willing. He kneeds he
did the kademie, he thought he needed it, and they
were just pumping him full allegedly of this stuff. Now
facing a long list of charges for illegal drug distribution,
but he says, look, they knew it was dangerous.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
These defendants took advantage of mister Perry's addiction issues to
enrich themselves. They knew what they were doing was wrong.
They knew what they were doing was risking great danger
to mister Perry, but they did it anyway.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
They allegedly tried to cover it up. They told each
other to delete all the messages, all their text messages.
But in the end they could be looking at one
hundred and twenty years in federal prison, some of them
life in prison. But it was, according to prosecutors today,
he was their piggy bank, and the more he wanted,
the more that they would get them.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Man, there's a lot of questions with this for me
because they're talking about one point, federal officials excuse me,
believe the drugs became too expensive and he switched to
a new source. And it's just like that guy, he's
crazy rich, right, I mean, he had a lot of money,
I thought, just from the whole friends thing. So that
to me, it was just like what when I when
(03:06):
I saw that. And the other thing was they're talking
about deleting messages and all that.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
It's too late.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I mean, think about all the receipts that are connected
guarantee when they found him dead.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
The people connected to this.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Were all probably going, I wish I had my brown
pants on today.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
You know, right, they were immediately trying to tie it
up for sure, but uh yeah. And on the how
much he would spend, I mean, he was going through
a lot of money using this group, so he was
trying to find somebody else because he in two months
spent fifty five thousand dollars and yeah, it's going to
go pretty quick through a year. And I don't think
he had a ton of money anymore. I mean, he
wasn't poor, but you know, he was making money off
(03:42):
of residuals. Nobody was hiring him for anything anymore. But
he was claiming that he was no longer addicted. And
but it looks like in the fall of twenty twenty
three he went back into it and had an assistant,
and the assistant knew some people, and they knew some
doctors who could get it, who wanted to make money,
and allegedly, you know, they took him down the wrong
(04:04):
road and he wanted more, and they kept giving him more.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Man yet another really sad angle to an already sad story.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
There's no question about that.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Alex Stone ABC News, Alex, thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
You got it.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Thanks Mark, see you man, Yeah you were we talked
about this one at all, kind of you know when
he passed and all of that, and it was drowning,
right is what happened? I thought, Yeah, I mean essentially
he got he was in the hot tub.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
He was found I think.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
I mean, Kenny, mean's what they put you to knock
you out in the hospital. That's what they you know,
when you're in the operating room. So he he was
in the hot tub and passed out and went under
and then yeah, so it wasn't necessarily the drug per
se like getting well, right, it wasn't just what it
(04:53):
was the drug per se that killed hy Houston.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Either, right.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
She ended up drowning in the mouth tub as well.
Yeah I'm not as well, but drowning as well. So yep,
so there it is five charged in that. Uh. You
know what's funny is like, let's delete those things when
you suh pena the you know, the phone records or whatever.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
You can delete them all your want.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
They're not going to be on the device, but they're
going to be part of From what I understand that
you're still able to find that.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Stuffeah, you know what? Have you? So five people charged?
Excuse me in that.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
What?
Speaker 1 (05:30):
And we mentioned it earlier just quickly, but this is
pretty big news that Will Howard, Canada State transfer was
named the Buckeyes starting quarterback by Ryan Day. I have
to be honest, I haven't really been following this very closely. Uh,
and I don't know how closely you've been following it.
But do you do you even have any thoughts on this?
(05:51):
I mean, clearly you trust the coaches depict you know,
the best guy.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
I thought that was the reason we brought him in
from the transfer poor role was to be the starting
quarterback because you know, we didn't have I literally connect
who was Kyle McCord. That's how forgettable of a quarterback
he was? Uh, last year he's had Syracuse. Devin Bush
hasn't done anything to im practice, so or Devin Brown?
(06:19):
Would I say, Devin Bush, that's another football player?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Pro player? Yeah, pro player.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
The the thing about, uh the Buckeyes is we have
three five star quarterbacks sitting behind Will Howard and Brown
were rich as they say Brown, I would be stunned
if Brown doesn't transfer at some point this season, I
think they he's gonna and one of these that you
(06:48):
got Aaron Nolan, you got that quarterback, Julian saying you,
I mean, dude, there's and then then.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
The keenholes is how you say it, kind of keyholes.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Lincoln keyholes, Lincoln keenholes. He's but I mean, I'm just
telling you, we got.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
An embarrassment of riches.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
It is stupid how many quarterbacks are in that room.
I think I think Devin Brown's gotta go. I think
he should. I think he deserves a chance to start.
By the way, I'm not saying it like he's a bum.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Gut him out of here. I don't like him.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Yeah, he's been hurt. He's been hurt twice. He can't
really seem to stay on the field much. And the
other thing is he's been he's been got a great attitude.
Brown's been a great teammate and he's not once made
a fuss a stink, you know, never never drawn attention
(07:41):
to himself, Always about the team. And I think many
schools would be very lucky to have a guy like
Devin Brown be their starting quarterback.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Will Howard has the most touchdown passes in Kansas State history.
Just a little bit of background on him in case
you haven't really been following along.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Kind of like me.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I mean, I've been looking at thirty thousand foot Vie
kind of watch him, but not but not really. Forty
eight touchdowns after he tied the school single season record
with twenty four in twenty twenty three, and then there's
some other metrics here that they have about him. He
also led Kansas State to a Big twelve championship.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
So he's a guy who I.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Feel like just based on that, the spotlight and the
pressure of that particular thing. Now it's different in the
Big ten, clearly, it's a different animal. And so on
coming here to OSU, you hope that the time that
he has spent so far from the portal has has
really and you know, he knows, he understands what this
(08:43):
whole OSU machine is about and what's behind all of
this and the tradition and all that. But you know what,
I would be shocked if he wasn't, because you can't
be a college a successful college football quarterback in Kansas
State and understand the rich history that's behind the Ohio
State and blah blah blah and all of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
So I feel like he's got a grasp on all
of that.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Again, not that it's the same kind of pressure that
he was dealing with in at Kansas State and you know,
getting the historical records and leading them to a big
twelve championship, but I think he's probably very securely aware
of the way things is.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
This just tells me things are working out the way
they should. And I'm so excited for this Buckeye football
season to get here. I mean, we're going to have
a two versus three matchup in week six or seven
when we play it, we go out to Oregon.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
That's going to be exciting.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
I just I can't wait to beat Michigan again finally
and go back to the way it was and the
way it should be, which is where week six. Yeah,
I just don't know, as they may aware the fact
that we beat Michigan eighteen on the twenty games in
a twenty game stretch from two thousand and one through
win twenty nineteen. Why why because somebody chicken out. Somebody
(10:11):
chickened out the COVID remember.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
That, what do you want to play?
Speaker 5 (10:16):
We beat you guys, twenty eighteen out of twenty games.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
And none of that matters to coach Day right now,
none of it matters because he's he's on the chopping
block if he doesn't pull off the victory.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Only between two thousand I'll say it again, through from
the two thousand and one season all the way to
the through the twenty nineteen season, Michigan won't beat US twice.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
That's twenty games.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
They beat US twice two thousand and three and twenty eleven.
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weather together from days
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