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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The guy who will promise and deliver is the guy
from ABC News we know as Alex Stone.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Absolutely, I'll promise you whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Mm hmmmmmm.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Chucky Ja opens up a huge door of opportunity.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
I knew he was going to try to do bring
something into this that. Yeah. No, uh, how about that
we got a we got a new American for the
first time ever, a new American pope. I don't.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yeah, but Chicago was not Uh, he was not on
the name of anything I saw leading up to it.
That didn't seem like it seemed like this was a
big surprise, right.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I was absolutely surprised. I know that out of all
of the cardinals, I believe he was the only American
if I want.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Who was in the running. Yeah, because there's an Dolan
out of New York I think, you know, he's always
all over TV and everything, and he seemed more high profile,
but not in the running for pope.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I didn't know an American was even really in the running.
And it's pretty incredible.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
I think he was.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
He was in Francis's inner circle as well. And I
don't know this. This perhaps is their way of paying homage.
Perhaps they're they're trying to honor Francis and think we
need to carry on his traditions. This guy was close
to him and maybe this.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
It could be, you know, also breaking Judge Bosberg blocked
the cardinal's decision on Pope. I read that too, So.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
It's amazing what can happen in our colored course.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I was like cracking up when I saw that and
go hey, and I was thinking, man, is there nothing
this guy will block? And then boom, I guess the
answer is no. He can block everything.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
The power of that federal court.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
But they need to get him on some football teams
and be like part of the block, you know, blocking
field goals blocking. Yeah, okay, sorry, anyway, Uh we talked
about this on the air yesterday and kind of had
a little bit of a discussion about it. Alex, this
is this is pretty crazy and interesting to say the least,
(02:01):
but may all kinds of different directions AI is taking
us right now, and it's just beginning to scratch the surface,
isn't it. Yeah, it is so.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, if you guys were chatting about really incredible story
that the law in Arizona and in most states says
that a victim can speak for themselves during victim impact
statements after a trial and when somebody's been convicted and
then they go into the sentencing phase. But when the
victim is murdered, it's never been done before where you
hear them address the court, I mean, how would they
until now? So the family, as you guys know, the
(02:31):
family in Arizona, was allowed to do it by using
AI to have the victim of the killing speak for
himself during his sentencing. And it was Christopher Pelke, shot
to death in a road rage incident Chandler in twenty
twenty one, Chandler, Arizona. So he came back to life
and told the cord.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
This, Hello everybody, thank you so much for being here today.
It means a lot. I can't tell you how humbled
I am for those that spoke up for me, everyone
who flew in took off work, who are watching this remotely,
and for everyone who has supported my family and loved
ones through three and a half years and two trials.
(03:08):
I wish I could be with you all today.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I mean, it really gives you the chills. That's Christopher
Pelke generated by AI addressing the judge, thanking the judge
for what he had done, generated by his family, and
then the judge allowed it in even expressing forgiveness to
his killer who shot and killed.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Him, to Gabriel Horksidas, the man who shot me. It
is a shame we encountered each other that day in
those circumstances. In another life, we probably could have been friends.
I believe in forgiveness and in God who forgives. I
always have and I still do.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
And guys, the family is saying that even they were
overcome by this because their brother, their brother in law,
came back to life.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
It became so real that I broke down in tears.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
It was Pelky's sister who created it. But the judge
gave the killer over ten years in prison, more than
what the state of Arizona was asking for. And the
judge was clearly moved. I love thank you, saying he
loved it and he was quite emotional, and so it
definitely had an impact. And then the final words from
Pelki in.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Court love you all see you on the other side.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
And no doubt this is something that other families may
attempt to use. The Chief Justice in Arizona saying that
AI has a potential to create great efficiencies in the
justice system and may assist those unschooled in the law
to better present their positions, but saying that they've got
to study this, that they've formed AI committee to examine
AI and make recommendations on how best to use it,
(04:30):
saying at bottom of those who use AI, including the courts,
are responsible for the accuracy. So you know, it's not
really him speaking, it's the family choosing his words. So
because it's the family giving their statement through him, it's
technically legal right now in Arizona. But might they change
the law. I don't know, but it definitely was impactful
(04:52):
what they were able to do.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yesterday. We had somebody call in after we were talking
about it, which they brought up a good point. They said,
you know, you can use AI and say, you know
what types of give me thirty scenarios of things to
say that could uh slant or you know, you move
a judge in a particular way during a sentencing with
(05:17):
this particular you know, I could be so specific and
then it spits out like thirty different ways to say
something that could move a judge or a jury in
one direction or the other.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
This particular crazies is an appeal waiting to happen. The
judge said he was moved. The judge gave this guy
more time than was being requested by the prosecution. This
is an appeal waiting to happen. He was unduly influenced and.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Way more impactful than if the victim's sister would have
just read that statement. I know my brother would have
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
It was oh sure, yeah, seeing him on Oh my god,
the screen and everything. I mean, he was sitting there talking,
saying all of that, and it looked like he was
actually sitting there talking, saying all of it, and then
threw his voice and it's pretty incredible.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
It is uh man, oh man. I I don't know.
I can't see any of this sticking and then anybody
moving forward as as these kinds of things begin to
happen where they go that's in't admissible, you can't you know,
like that kind of thing. I see this getting outlawed
at some point.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
You would think anyway, yeah, I mean it seems like
it may yeah, and now his but it was incredible.
It wasn't used in the actual trial itself. It was
in the sentencing, so they maybe could overturn or change
his sentence, but seems like unless they have other grounds
for the actual conviction, that that would remain. But yeah,
it seems like that there's going to be a lot
here for the defense to go whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait
a second, he didn't actually say any of this, and yeah,
(06:45):
so we'll see a screen. Yeah, yeah, he was on
a screen. Yeah, he was just sitting there and it
looked like he was talking to the judge.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Just wondering how long it'll take until this becomes a hologram?
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Can you imagine that sitting in the chair, sitting on
the stack. Oh my god, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I don't think that will ever come to fruition, dude,
because it's not real. I mean you, yeah, but how
could you use them on a stand? Yeah, you know,
for about that.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Thing I saw a couple of years ago where they're
doing the holograms where you can go visit, you know,
and they program in all the pre recorded answers.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
It shouldn't be that difficult to do the same thing on.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
A stand that's created specifically for AI.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Yeah, crazy Alex down ABC News out of Los Angeles. Alex,
have a great weekend. Oh wait, no, it's Thursday, but
still have a great week. In that case, I don't
see that. Okay, all right, we'll see you see can
you can you can you tell I wish it was Friday.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
It's just a little bit evident.
The guy who will promise and deliver is the guy
from ABC News we know as Alex Stone.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Absolutely, I'll promise you whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Mm hmmmmmm.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Chucky Ja opens up a huge door of opportunity.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
I knew he was going to try to do bring
something into this that. Yeah. No, uh, how about that
we got a we got a new American for the
first time ever, a new American pope. I don't.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yeah, but Chicago was not Uh, he was not on
the name of anything I saw leading up to it.
That didn't seem like it seemed like this was a
big surprise, right.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I was absolutely surprised. I know that out of all
of the cardinals, I believe he was the only American
if I want.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Who was in the running. Yeah, because there's an Dolan
out of New York I think, you know, he's always
all over TV and everything, and he seemed more high profile,
but not in the running for pope.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I didn't know an American was even really in the running.
And it's pretty incredible.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
I think he was.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
He was in Francis's inner circle as well. And I
don't know this. This perhaps is their way of paying homage.
Perhaps they're they're trying to honor Francis and think we
need to carry on his traditions. This guy was close
to him and maybe this.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
It could be, you know, also breaking Judge Bosberg blocked
the cardinal's decision on Pope. I read that too, So.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
It's amazing what can happen in our colored course.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I was like cracking up when I saw that and
go hey, and I was thinking, man, is there nothing
this guy will block? And then boom, I guess the
answer is no. He can block everything.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
The power of that federal court.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
But they need to get him on some football teams
and be like part of the block, you know, blocking
field goals blocking. Yeah, okay, sorry, anyway, Uh we talked
about this on the air yesterday and kind of had
a little bit of a discussion about it. Alex, this
is this is pretty crazy and interesting to say the least,
(02:01):
but may all kinds of different directions AI is taking
us right now, and it's just beginning to scratch the surface,
isn't it. Yeah, it is so.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, if you guys were chatting about really incredible story
that the law in Arizona and in most states says
that a victim can speak for themselves during victim impact
statements after a trial and when somebody's been convicted and
then they go into the sentencing phase. But when the
victim is murdered, it's never been done before where you
hear them address the court, I mean, how would they
until now? So the family, as you guys know, the
(02:31):
family in Arizona, was allowed to do it by using
AI to have the victim of the killing speak for
himself during his sentencing. And it was Christopher Pelke, shot
to death in a road rage incident Chandler in twenty
twenty one, Chandler, Arizona. So he came back to life
and told the cord.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
This, Hello everybody, thank you so much for being here today.
It means a lot. I can't tell you how humbled
I am for those that spoke up for me, everyone
who flew in took off work, who are watching this remotely,
and for everyone who has supported my family and loved
ones through three and a half years and two trials.
(03:08):
I wish I could be with you all today.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I mean, it really gives you the chills. That's Christopher
Pelke generated by AI addressing the judge, thanking the judge
for what he had done, generated by his family, and
then the judge allowed it in even expressing forgiveness to
his killer who shot and killed.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Him, to Gabriel Horksidas, the man who shot me. It
is a shame we encountered each other that day in
those circumstances. In another life, we probably could have been friends.
I believe in forgiveness and in God who forgives. I
always have and I still do.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
And guys, the family is saying that even they were
overcome by this because their brother, their brother in law,
came back to life.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
It became so real that I broke down in tears.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
It was Pelky's sister who created it. But the judge
gave the killer over ten years in prison, more than
what the state of Arizona was asking for. And the
judge was clearly moved. I love thank you, saying he
loved it and he was quite emotional, and so it
definitely had an impact. And then the final words from
Pelki in.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Court love you all see you on the other side.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
And no doubt this is something that other families may
attempt to use. The Chief Justice in Arizona saying that
AI has a potential to create great efficiencies in the
justice system and may assist those unschooled in the law
to better present their positions, but saying that they've got
to study this, that they've formed AI committee to examine
AI and make recommendations on how best to use it,
(04:30):
saying at bottom of those who use AI, including the courts,
are responsible for the accuracy. So you know, it's not
really him speaking, it's the family choosing his words. So
because it's the family giving their statement through him, it's
technically legal right now in Arizona. But might they change
the law. I don't know, but it definitely was impactful
(04:52):
what they were able to do.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yesterday. We had somebody call in after we were talking
about it, which they brought up a good point. They said,
you know, you can use AI and say, you know
what types of give me thirty scenarios of things to
say that could uh slant or you know, you move
a judge in a particular way during a sentencing with
(05:17):
this particular you know, I could be so specific and
then it spits out like thirty different ways to say
something that could move a judge or a jury in
one direction or the other.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
This particular crazies is an appeal waiting to happen. The
judge said he was moved. The judge gave this guy
more time than was being requested by the prosecution. This
is an appeal waiting to happen. He was unduly influenced and.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Way more impactful than if the victim's sister would have
just read that statement. I know my brother would have
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
It was oh sure, yeah, seeing him on Oh my god,
the screen and everything. I mean, he was sitting there talking,
saying all of that, and it looked like he was
actually sitting there talking, saying all of it, and then
threw his voice and it's pretty incredible.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
It is uh man, oh man. I I don't know.
I can't see any of this sticking and then anybody
moving forward as as these kinds of things begin to
happen where they go that's in't admissible, you can't you know,
like that kind of thing. I see this getting outlawed
at some point.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
You would think anyway, yeah, I mean it seems like
it may yeah, and now his but it was incredible.
It wasn't used in the actual trial itself. It was
in the sentencing, so they maybe could overturn or change
his sentence, but seems like unless they have other grounds
for the actual conviction, that that would remain. But yeah,
it seems like that there's going to be a lot
here for the defense to go whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait
a second, he didn't actually say any of this, and yeah,
(06:45):
so we'll see a screen. Yeah, yeah, he was on
a screen. Yeah, he was just sitting there and it
looked like he was talking to the judge.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Just wondering how long it'll take until this becomes a hologram?
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Can you imagine that sitting in the chair, sitting on
the stack. Oh my god, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I don't think that will ever come to fruition, dude,
because it's not real. I mean you, yeah, but how
could you use them on a stand? Yeah, you know,
for about that.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Thing I saw a couple of years ago where they're
doing the holograms where you can go visit, you know,
and they program in all the pre recorded answers.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
It shouldn't be that difficult to do the same thing on.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
A stand that's created specifically for AI.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Yeah, crazy Alex down ABC News out of Los Angeles. Alex,
have a great weekend. Oh wait, no, it's Thursday, but
still have a great week. In that case, I don't
see that. Okay, all right, we'll see you see can
you can you can you tell I wish it was Friday.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
It's just a little bit evident.
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