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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, if you go to a national park, avoid the bathrooms,
are saying right now, yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Yeah, there's really no danger of me going to a
national park anytime soon.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
And and plus there's there's trees. There are trees, just
saying mm hm.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Of course, there's probably cameras, and then you're on you're
on camera doing that, and.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Those dang tree cameras they're everywhere these days. Can't get
away from them. Then, Now what I mean, you're in nature.
If nature calls, you should answer nature. In nature, it's
a forest, for goodness sake, pee on the tree.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
It's weird how you make sense in that situation. But
my brain's going, no, it really doesn't. I mean, I
know what you're saying. But at the same time, like man,
he makes a good point.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Right behind you, there's a bear going that's my boy,
because you know they know you're doing it the right way.
They live there, they know how things are supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
You're talking about the Sharman bear.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
It could be the Sharman bear, the one that's that
whole family that they got. You can tell because they
got fur on their butts.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Alex Stone is joining us now, and.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
I like Chuck's bear voice, that's my boy, that's my boy.
Hey boo book.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I guess there's a couple of different ways to do that.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
But you know, they say the bathrooms are because I
always think of National park bathrooms otherwise being really really nice.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
It depends on the bathroom.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
We got a lot of National parks out here in California, Yo,
Semite and Sakoya and a number of them that we
love to go to. And some of them are very nice,
like the ones near the visitors center and in the
more populated areas. But there are some very not nice
bathrooms national parks as well that I would not want
to see when they have not been serviced, because when
they have been service they're pretty nasty.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
That's what I was saying. I was being a wise ass.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Oh no, but there are actually some nice ones, but
the visitors center, it's crazy, you know that they're they're they're.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Quite nice, but yeah, not being service not so great.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
When I was a youngster, I remember going to a
couple of parks with dad and the bathrooms were not
there didn't seem to be plumbing in there. It was
a block building where you might go to relieve yourself,
but there was no real plumbing, essentially an outhouse, so.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
It's like over a permanent hole in the.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Ground basically, And even the flies stayed outside, they will
go in.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
That's see. That tells you something right there.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah, it got close, but that they were like no.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah, flies are like I wouldn't go in there, Like, yeah,
the flies are a talking to me, and b they
won't go in. So yeah, they're they're they're saying that
many across the US have not been cleaned since the shutdown. Obviously,
you know, we're on a month now, and so they're overflowing.
And as they it reads here, extra stinky. Yeah, extra stinky.
(02:44):
And like some parks such as Rock Creek and in Washington,
d C. Have set up porta John's sanitation crews and
the National Park Service are among the nine thousand plus
of the agency's fourteen five hundred employees that have been furloughed.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
So that is a long time not clean the public bathroom.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
It is a long time.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
And like you said, even if they are cleaned on
a regular basis, most of the time they are absolutely atrocious.
They're gross, they stink, there's not even and then you
think yourself, oh man, I hope I don't have to
go number two.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
You know, I'm feeling bad for the person after the
shutdown is over, they has to go back to work
and go, oh.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Man, I got to catch up.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
Yeah, start from scratching there. Just you know, tear it
down it.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, that's called a grenade.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah, just toss it, open the door, toss it in,
don't forget to pull the key and then shut the
door and run.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
I would quit my job during the shutdown if I
knew that's what I had to go back to. A month,
month and a half worth of people making the POOPU
in there and nobody cleaning it up. Good lord, oh
my gosh, No, I couldn't do it.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
The Bear's saying, what chuck boy, that's my boy.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
You gotta have the network put that in there every time.
Later for the report we go to alec Stone, they're going.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
To use that shut down, the bears are saying, and
then that just play.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
You bears are.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Uh yeah, so that's something to uh. You know, I've
never even been to Well, first of all, and we've
talked about it. I've never even been to California, but
it is on my list of things, you know, to
get to Yosemite or Sequoia.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
You know, beautiful.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I mean, I there's a.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Reason that they are you know, national you know they're
national parks and so on, and yeah, it's like it's
in your backyard, so you don't even think twice about it.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Probably know that it's life changing when you see it
in all the big granite and the trees, it's it's
really cool.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Sounds very cool man.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yeah, Wayne National Forest down in southern Ohio, that's very
beautiful too.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I've driven past that actually, yeah, it's very nice. Yeah,
I know. I didn't even.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yeah, even driving through there on the road, surrounded by
all those giant trees and so forth, it's it's very
senic just to you know, as you're traveling to go
through there.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Right, yeah, I haven't haven't actually done that, So I.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Don't think you're selling Mark. He doesn't seem too.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
He doesn't.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
No, He's like, yeah, I've driven through there.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Well, I've driven by the entrance that's down in the
Athens area, right, yeah, yeah, so I've driven past.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
And when you said that, I go, oh, okay. I
didn't realize it was a national park, but.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
I just had that spoiled child. Look on your face?
Does it? Does it have cable? You know it's a
forest man?
Speaker 2 (05:25):
No.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
I like outdoors, but I've never been see Chuck just
nailed it. Are you a camping guy, Alex, because.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
I'm like, yeah, we like to go camping.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Oh yeah, not me. I'm like, I'm camping. Is there
a hotel where we're camping?
Speaker 5 (05:38):
And that's how I grew up camping was if it
was at the Hyatt? But now no, we love to go.
We did your assembledee this last summer, and we've done.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Weren't you afraid of the animals? Like wild animals?
Speaker 4 (05:49):
I know, I wait for the talking bear to show
up and say.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
That No, well, I'm just I'm being serious because I would.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
They're not gonna hurt.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
But they don't know how to read. They don't know
to leave you guys alone.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
During the day, they stay away from you because they
see and hear you. And at night that's why you
have a campfire man.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Forget you're in a tent now that or some people
in RVs.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Or no, no, wait a second, you're what you're relying
on are the animals that go, well, there's a fire,
I'm not going over there when.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
You keep them away.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
You put everything in the bare box and you you
don't leave anything out.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Nothing to entice them to come in. And you're perfectly fine.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
How about you, the human Are you enticing them? Your
your actual.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
To have lip bomb or deodorant in with you?
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Too many rules bears.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Bears seriously are and they've gotten more aggressive in the
past decade or so. Right, if you leave the cooler
in the back of the truck or something, they'll rip
open your car. Don't jump up in the bed of
the truck and take that cooler.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
And yeah, that's why everything goes in a bare box.
But as as you do that, they don't have.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Well, this falls under the category not worth it to me.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I mean it just does.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Seriously, coming camping with us next summer.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
No, no, that's.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
The last thing I want to do, because I man,
oh my gosh, where do I begin.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Alex tell the kids they get to meet Uncle Chuck. However,
Uncle sit this out. Yeah, he's gonna stay at home.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Mike Sheldon, No, no, no, you'll go kids.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
If you want to meet Uncle Blazer, we're gonna have
to go to Las Vegas and see his degeneracy there.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
I mean even if if I tell you we're gonna
go skinny dipping, you won't come.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Oh well wait a minute, now you're changing the game
on me.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Here while you're coming out.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Now the wheels are turning. Here, here we go. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
So anyway, I kind of was trying to lead into,
you know, the shutdown and what you're reporting on with
talking about the bathrooms and then see what I'm trying.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
To do there. But yeah, unsuccessful, pretty much, I guess, Alex.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
But it was. It was wonderful.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Oh that's so nice, if you thank you. So the
air traffic controllers now are first full week without any pay,
and yeah, this isn't gonna get It's gonna get probably
worse before it gets better, I'm guessing.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
So we've talked about it that they've been without pay
for so many weeks now, but this is yesterday's paycheck
was the first time they actually haven't gotten any money
because their last paycheck two weeks ago there was a
little bit from before the shutdown that was in that one.
So this is now absolutely none that they got in
their bank account yesterday, and it's becoming a lot more real.
So air traffic controllers TSA officers they are as we've
(08:15):
talked about, turning to food banks and banks looking for
zero interest loans. But now the air traffic controllers, they
are handing out leaflets at airports asking for the public
to put pressure on Congress and the shutdown. This is
them doing it this week. It's Sea Tech Airport and Seattle.
Speaker 6 (08:31):
We're traffic controllers, Rugby and paid. Thank you for the kid.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
Yeah, and this is what they've got to do now.
They're still working, they're on the job, but when they're off,
they are manning these places around airports, handing these out
saying hey, support us. Mark Roush is a controller handing
out those pamphlets, and.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
We continue to come to work each and every day.
We're a proud bunch. We're a professional bunch, and we're
all showing up to work every day for no pay.
So we're asking the public support to help us end
the shutdown.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
And he says, yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Rollers are now getting second jobs or driving for Uber.
They're driving for door dash and instacart to make ends meet,
just to make some money. But that adds a new
layer in that they work typically now mandatory overtime, because
before all of this they were already thirty five hundred
air traffic controllers short of where they needed to be
and six days a week, And so when they're not
(09:20):
working those six days a week and mandatory overtime, they
are either handing out pamphlets or they're driving for door
Dash or for Uber, and that adds into the layers
of their off time and sleep and all of that.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
And he says, we don't want to introduce a distraction
into an air traffic controller when they're pluging in and
looking at the runways and in the back of their
head they're like, I just ran out of money. I
have zero dollars in my bank account. How am I
going to refill my vehicle so I can come back
tomorrow to not get paid? How am I going to
put food on table? How am I going to pay
the rent?
Speaker 5 (09:52):
And he says all of that introduce his risk that
we don't need into the flying system. And at Transportation
Secretary Sean Duffy, he said forty four percent of all
the airport delays on Sunday were because of now the
sick calls that are ramping up as people are calling
out sick in the air traffic control centers and that
they just can't show up that even though they're mandated
(10:13):
to come in. They've got childcare, they've got gas, all
of that. He says that the controllers have made it
very clear they have a clear message they want Congress
to know end this shut down or at least come
up with a stop gap. At this point, he says,
this is the message they're sending.
Speaker 7 (10:28):
Figure out how you guys can negotiate, have a conversation,
but pay us in the interim. Make sure we get
paid for the work that we provide to the American people.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
He's giving the message of the air traffic controllers. He
does say, though the President will not be giving wiggle
room on this to try to get an end to it,
that he's going to stand firm.
Speaker 7 (10:45):
And so I don't think you're going to see the
President negotiate here because he has nothing to give up.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
But in the meantime, you got the air traffic controllers
as stuck with this and TSA. But but many now
working those mandatory overtime shifts but not getting paid and
working six days a week and doing all these extra jobs.
So now they're at the airports, they're handing out leaflets
and saying please call your congress person email them to
get them back to work because they say they need
(11:15):
a paycheck, which they're showing up for work every day,
but they're not getting paid.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
You know.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
On the side gigs thing, the driving for Uber and
door National, I'd like to actually know how many, how
many total are really doing that. Clearly you've got you know,
the vocal here talking about well we're doing that, and
it's probably did the tune of you know, hundreds, maybe
even thousands. I don't know, but I'd like to, you know,
hear how many people are really being that industrious here?
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
I mean, Sean Duffy says that he too knows that
they are beginning to do that, and that there are
air traffic controllers who are doing it, but exact numbers,
I don't think anybody really knows.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Right, and I don't think anybody really will ever get
an exact you know number with regard all to all
of that. You know, I was even saying, we had
Congressman Balderson in here, and we talked to Congressman Jim
Jordan on a weekly basis, and it was just like,
you know, what I was saying to them, Alex I'm like, look,
nobody in Congress should be getting paid period on either
(12:14):
side of the aisle. Nobody should be getting a nickel
right now as long as the government is shut down
and they you know, I said, and I kind of
followed it with, well, there's a large percentage that I'm
sure would agree with that that are not living paycheck
to paycheck.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
And I was.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Told that probably around forty percent, and it could be
a little less, maybe even thirty percent. Thirty five percent
are actually living on that money that are in Congress.
The rest of them, really it wouldn't be a big
deal for them to you know, not really be getting
a paycheck right now.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Anyway.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
They make one hundred sales and everything else.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Ye yeah, well they make one hundred and seventy grand
a year, and I believe senators right around that same amount.
I think that's what the House makes something like that.
But it's not like they've got all this money themselves
or whatever. But I'm like, hey, that would be that
would expedite this thing, especially if it's people that are
in the same predicament as the TSA and the and
(13:11):
the air traffic Control. All of these people the quote
unquote essentials if you will, that are having to deal
with this right now.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I feel like it would expedite this whole soon when your.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Uber pulls up and your congress person is driving.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Well, oh, how funny would that be?
Speaker 7 (13:25):
That?
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Actually, now you put a smile on my face. That
was funny.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah, I mean, you're you're on. I feel like you're on.
You're right on target there with that, it would be
really interesting. But I don't think anybody government related should
be getting a nickel right now.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Man.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
So anyway, really really interesting with this and hopefully solved
sooner rather than later.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Alex Stone, ABC News out of Los Angeles. Still really
hot there, Alex.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Yeah, what are we at right now?
Speaker 5 (13:51):
We hit ninety seven yesterday right now ninety two Wow,
Well, if you go to a national park, avoid the bathrooms,
are saying right now, yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Yeah, there's really no danger of me going to a
national park anytime soon.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
And and plus there's there's trees. There are trees, just
saying mm hm.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Of course, there's probably cameras, and then you're on you're
on camera doing that, and.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Those dang tree cameras they're everywhere these days. Can't get
away from them. Then, Now what I mean, you're in nature.
If nature calls, you should answer nature. In nature, it's
a forest, for goodness sake, pee on the tree.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
It's weird how you make sense in that situation. But
my brain's going, no, it really doesn't. I mean, I
know what you're saying. But at the same time, like man,
he makes a good point.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Right behind you, there's a bear going that's my boy,
because you know they know you're doing it the right way.
They live there, they know how things are supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
You're talking about the Sharman bear.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
It could be the Sharman bear, the one that's that
whole family that they got. You can tell because they
got fur on their butts.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Alex Stone is joining us now, and.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
I like Chuck's bear voice, that's my boy, that's my boy.
Hey boo book.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I guess there's a couple of different ways to do that.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
But you know, they say the bathrooms are because I
always think of National park bathrooms otherwise being really really nice.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
It depends on the bathroom.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
We got a lot of National parks out here in California, Yo,
Semite and Sakoya and a number of them that we
love to go to. And some of them are very nice,
like the ones near the visitors center and in the
more populated areas. But there are some very not nice
bathrooms national parks as well that I would not want
to see when they have not been serviced, because when
they have been service they're pretty nasty.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
That's what I was saying. I was being a wise ass.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Oh no, but there are actually some nice ones, but
the visitors center, it's crazy, you know that they're they're they're.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Quite nice, but yeah, not being service not so great.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
When I was a youngster, I remember going to a
couple of parks with dad and the bathrooms were not
there didn't seem to be plumbing in there. It was
a block building where you might go to relieve yourself,
but there was no real plumbing, essentially an outhouse, so.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
It's like over a permanent hole in the.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Ground basically, And even the flies stayed outside, they will
go in.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
That's see. That tells you something right there.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah, it got close, but that they were like no.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah, flies are like I wouldn't go in there, Like, yeah,
the flies are a talking to me, and b they
won't go in. So yeah, they're they're they're saying that
many across the US have not been cleaned since the shutdown. Obviously,
you know, we're on a month now, and so they're overflowing.
And as they it reads here, extra stinky. Yeah, extra stinky.
(02:44):
And like some parks such as Rock Creek and in Washington,
d C. Have set up porta John's sanitation crews and
the National Park Service are among the nine thousand plus
of the agency's fourteen five hundred employees that have been furloughed.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
So that is a long time not clean the public bathroom.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
It is a long time.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
And like you said, even if they are cleaned on
a regular basis, most of the time they are absolutely atrocious.
They're gross, they stink, there's not even and then you
think yourself, oh man, I hope I don't have to
go number two.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
You know, I'm feeling bad for the person after the
shutdown is over, they has to go back to work
and go, oh.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Man, I got to catch up.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
Yeah, start from scratching there. Just you know, tear it
down it.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, that's called a grenade.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah, just toss it, open the door, toss it in,
don't forget to pull the key and then shut the
door and run.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
I would quit my job during the shutdown if I
knew that's what I had to go back to. A month,
month and a half worth of people making the POOPU
in there and nobody cleaning it up. Good lord, oh
my gosh, No, I couldn't do it.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
The Bear's saying, what chuck boy, that's my boy.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
You gotta have the network put that in there every time.
Later for the report we go to alec Stone, they're going.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
To use that shut down, the bears are saying, and
then that just play.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
You bears are.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Uh yeah, so that's something to uh. You know, I've
never even been to Well, first of all, and we've
talked about it. I've never even been to California, but
it is on my list of things, you know, to
get to Yosemite or Sequoia.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
You know, beautiful.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I mean, I there's a.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Reason that they are you know, national you know they're
national parks and so on, and yeah, it's like it's
in your backyard, so you don't even think twice about it.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Probably know that it's life changing when you see it
in all the big granite and the trees, it's it's
really cool.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Sounds very cool man.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yeah, Wayne National Forest down in southern Ohio, that's very
beautiful too.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I've driven past that actually, yeah, it's very nice. Yeah,
I know. I didn't even.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yeah, even driving through there on the road, surrounded by
all those giant trees and so forth, it's it's very
senic just to you know, as you're traveling to go
through there.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Right, yeah, I haven't haven't actually done that, So I.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Don't think you're selling Mark. He doesn't seem too.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
He doesn't.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
No, He's like, yeah, I've driven through there.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Well, I've driven by the entrance that's down in the
Athens area, right, yeah, yeah, so I've driven past.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
And when you said that, I go, oh, okay. I
didn't realize it was a national park, but.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
I just had that spoiled child. Look on your face?
Does it? Does it have cable? You know it's a
forest man?
Speaker 2 (05:25):
No.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
I like outdoors, but I've never been see Chuck just
nailed it. Are you a camping guy, Alex, because.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
I'm like, yeah, we like to go camping.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Oh yeah, not me. I'm like, I'm camping. Is there
a hotel where we're camping?
Speaker 5 (05:38):
And that's how I grew up camping was if it
was at the Hyatt? But now no, we love to go.
We did your assembledee this last summer, and we've done.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Weren't you afraid of the animals? Like wild animals?
Speaker 4 (05:49):
I know, I wait for the talking bear to show
up and say.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
That No, well, I'm just I'm being serious because I would.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
They're not gonna hurt.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
But they don't know how to read. They don't know
to leave you guys alone.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
During the day, they stay away from you because they
see and hear you. And at night that's why you
have a campfire man.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Forget you're in a tent now that or some people
in RVs.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Or no, no, wait a second, you're what you're relying
on are the animals that go, well, there's a fire,
I'm not going over there when.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
You keep them away.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
You put everything in the bare box and you you
don't leave anything out.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Nothing to entice them to come in. And you're perfectly fine.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
How about you, the human Are you enticing them? Your
your actual.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
To have lip bomb or deodorant in with you?
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Too many rules bears.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Bears seriously are and they've gotten more aggressive in the
past decade or so. Right, if you leave the cooler
in the back of the truck or something, they'll rip
open your car. Don't jump up in the bed of
the truck and take that cooler.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
And yeah, that's why everything goes in a bare box.
But as as you do that, they don't have.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Well, this falls under the category not worth it to me.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I mean it just does.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Seriously, coming camping with us next summer.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
No, no, that's.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
The last thing I want to do, because I man,
oh my gosh, where do I begin.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Alex tell the kids they get to meet Uncle Chuck. However,
Uncle sit this out. Yeah, he's gonna stay at home.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Mike Sheldon, No, no, no, you'll go kids.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
If you want to meet Uncle Blazer, we're gonna have
to go to Las Vegas and see his degeneracy there.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
I mean even if if I tell you we're gonna
go skinny dipping, you won't come.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Oh well wait a minute, now you're changing the game
on me.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Here while you're coming out.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Now the wheels are turning. Here, here we go. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
So anyway, I kind of was trying to lead into,
you know, the shutdown and what you're reporting on with
talking about the bathrooms and then see what I'm trying.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
To do there. But yeah, unsuccessful, pretty much, I guess, Alex.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
But it was. It was wonderful.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Oh that's so nice, if you thank you. So the
air traffic controllers now are first full week without any pay,
and yeah, this isn't gonna get It's gonna get probably
worse before it gets better, I'm guessing.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
So we've talked about it that they've been without pay
for so many weeks now, but this is yesterday's paycheck
was the first time they actually haven't gotten any money
because their last paycheck two weeks ago there was a
little bit from before the shutdown that was in that one.
So this is now absolutely none that they got in
their bank account yesterday, and it's becoming a lot more real.
So air traffic controllers TSA officers they are as we've
(08:15):
talked about, turning to food banks and banks looking for
zero interest loans. But now the air traffic controllers, they
are handing out leaflets at airports asking for the public
to put pressure on Congress and the shutdown. This is
them doing it this week. It's Sea Tech Airport and Seattle.
Speaker 6 (08:31):
We're traffic controllers, Rugby and paid. Thank you for the kid.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
Yeah, and this is what they've got to do now.
They're still working, they're on the job, but when they're off,
they are manning these places around airports, handing these out
saying hey, support us. Mark Roush is a controller handing
out those pamphlets, and.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
We continue to come to work each and every day.
We're a proud bunch. We're a professional bunch, and we're
all showing up to work every day for no pay.
So we're asking the public support to help us end
the shutdown.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
And he says, yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Rollers are now getting second jobs or driving for Uber.
They're driving for door dash and instacart to make ends meet,
just to make some money. But that adds a new
layer in that they work typically now mandatory overtime, because
before all of this they were already thirty five hundred
air traffic controllers short of where they needed to be
and six days a week, And so when they're not
(09:20):
working those six days a week and mandatory overtime, they
are either handing out pamphlets or they're driving for door
Dash or for Uber, and that adds into the layers
of their off time and sleep and all of that.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
And he says, we don't want to introduce a distraction
into an air traffic controller when they're pluging in and
looking at the runways and in the back of their
head they're like, I just ran out of money. I
have zero dollars in my bank account. How am I
going to refill my vehicle so I can come back
tomorrow to not get paid? How am I going to
put food on table? How am I going to pay
the rent?
Speaker 5 (09:52):
And he says all of that introduce his risk that
we don't need into the flying system. And at Transportation
Secretary Sean Duffy, he said forty four percent of all
the airport delays on Sunday were because of now the
sick calls that are ramping up as people are calling
out sick in the air traffic control centers and that
they just can't show up that even though they're mandated
(10:13):
to come in. They've got childcare, they've got gas, all
of that. He says that the controllers have made it
very clear they have a clear message they want Congress
to know end this shut down or at least come
up with a stop gap. At this point, he says,
this is the message they're sending.
Speaker 7 (10:28):
Figure out how you guys can negotiate, have a conversation,
but pay us in the interim. Make sure we get
paid for the work that we provide to the American people.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
He's giving the message of the air traffic controllers. He
does say, though the President will not be giving wiggle
room on this to try to get an end to it,
that he's going to stand firm.
Speaker 7 (10:45):
And so I don't think you're going to see the
President negotiate here because he has nothing to give up.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
But in the meantime, you got the air traffic controllers
as stuck with this and TSA. But but many now
working those mandatory overtime shifts but not getting paid and
working six days a week and doing all these extra jobs.
So now they're at the airports, they're handing out leaflets
and saying please call your congress person email them to
get them back to work because they say they need
(11:15):
a paycheck, which they're showing up for work every day,
but they're not getting paid.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
You know.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
On the side gigs thing, the driving for Uber and
door National, I'd like to actually know how many, how
many total are really doing that. Clearly you've got you know,
the vocal here talking about well we're doing that, and
it's probably did the tune of you know, hundreds, maybe
even thousands. I don't know, but I'd like to, you know,
hear how many people are really being that industrious here?
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
I mean, Sean Duffy says that he too knows that
they are beginning to do that, and that there are
air traffic controllers who are doing it, but exact numbers,
I don't think anybody really knows.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Right, and I don't think anybody really will ever get
an exact you know number with regard all to all
of that. You know, I was even saying, we had
Congressman Balderson in here, and we talked to Congressman Jim
Jordan on a weekly basis, and it was just like,
you know, what I was saying to them, Alex I'm like, look,
nobody in Congress should be getting paid period on either
(12:14):
side of the aisle. Nobody should be getting a nickel
right now as long as the government is shut down
and they you know, I said, and I kind of
followed it with, well, there's a large percentage that I'm
sure would agree with that that are not living paycheck
to paycheck.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
And I was.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Told that probably around forty percent, and it could be
a little less, maybe even thirty percent. Thirty five percent
are actually living on that money that are in Congress.
The rest of them, really it wouldn't be a big
deal for them to you know, not really be getting
a paycheck right now.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Anyway.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
They make one hundred sales and everything else.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Ye yeah, well they make one hundred and seventy grand
a year, and I believe senators right around that same amount.
I think that's what the House makes something like that.
But it's not like they've got all this money themselves
or whatever. But I'm like, hey, that would be that
would expedite this thing, especially if it's people that are
in the same predicament as the TSA and the and
(13:11):
the air traffic Control. All of these people the quote
unquote essentials if you will, that are having to deal
with this right now.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I feel like it would expedite this whole soon when your.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Uber pulls up and your congress person is driving.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Well, oh, how funny would that be?
Speaker 7 (13:25):
That?
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Actually, now you put a smile on my face. That
was funny.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah, I mean, you're you're on. I feel like you're on.
You're right on target there with that, it would be
really interesting. But I don't think anybody government related should
be getting a nickel right now.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Man.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
So anyway, really really interesting with this and hopefully solved
sooner rather than later.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Alex Stone, ABC News out of Los Angeles. Still really
hot there, Alex.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Yeah, what are we at right now?
Speaker 5 (13:51):
We hit ninety seven yesterday right now ninety two Wow,
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