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Speaker 1 (00:00):
There's a zoo in Denmark.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Oh my gosh, it's asking people to donate their small
pets to feed the predators that live there. You are
a you're a subhuman if you participate. What the hell
are what? And I thought this was a joke when
I first saw it. I'm like, no, and a not
very funny one, I might add.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I heard dub Jay Ratlift, the aviation expertoll with Mike
this morning. He was telling us three He goes, don't
ever say you've seen it all, because now we have
this story. I think it was in Spain of family
taking going traveling vacation. They get there and they find
out their ten year old son his passport is expired,
so they leave him at the airport.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
They just left him, just left him.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
So lady, he's there to feed the animals at the
Denmark zoo. I'm not sure what their logic was there.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
The Alborg Zoo says it wants to copy the natural
food chain to help with animal welfare and professional integrity.
The zoo promises that donated pets like guinea pig, guinea pigs, rabbits,
and chickens will be quote unquote gently euthanized by trained
staff before being used as food.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Isn't that nice of them?
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Could you imagine, honey, you better do well in your
test tomorrow or Tommy's going away your hant like he's
going to the zoo.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yeah, never to return.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
I could never own a snake for that reason, because
you know, people buy mice and stuff for pet snakes
and I wouldn't do that. I just I couldn't. I
don't have the heart for something like that.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I've seen people right before they're gonna give them to them,
hold them by the tail and then slam them on
like a hard surface, oh man, just to basically, you know,
kill them just before. But the body's still warm, so
the snake will still want to eat it. But they
the zoo is promising the donated pets like guinea pigs, rabbits,
chickens will be Yeah, like I said, gently euthanized. They
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explain nothing goes to waste and then it also this
post included a picture of a wildcat.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
With its mouth open showing its teeth.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
The zoo said they're interested in getting horses donated.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I was like, what what is going on?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
How about in order to keep things the way they
are in nature, we bring in wild game hunters to your.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Zoo exactly, man, I like stone, ABC News joining us
now and uh yeah, I heard.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
They have not said though, if they're if like somebody
brought in a cat or a dog, what they would
do that. They've been asked that and they didn't have
an answer for.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
It, you know what the answer.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
So they're not going to be on record as saying
what they would do. But I have a feeling they're like, well, yeah,
we would. I love how they go will gently euthanize it.
What is there a such thing as a gently youth?
Speaker 5 (02:38):
They will gently kill it? What? What are they? What
do zoos normally feed the the big animals?
Speaker 6 (02:46):
I mean, rall me, Tina, big animal chowel.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
In the shape of a deer.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, but they bring you know, just big chunks of
you know, to the the carnivorous cat.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
It's the big cat.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Have you seen in China and Korea? They bring live
zebras and stuff, just dump them in the middle like
of a enclosure of tigers and stuff. You're being serious, Yeah,
I'm not joking, man, That is just absolutely wrong.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Googled it. Yeah. Zoo lions typically eat around the world,
whole prey animals like rabbits and other carcasses, chunks of beef,
horse meat, deer, goats, sheep, poultry. So I'm guessing, you know,
and a lot of this probably goes on. But aren't pets.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
I mean, I yeah, I understand live stock because the
animals have to eat. I get that, But do you know,
to ask little Buffy to turn over the hamster is
just wrong?
Speaker 6 (03:39):
Man?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
How about too if the parents did it with that
and they were going to the zoo to drop it off,
and then they're like, oh, well, why we're here, we'll
just go around yes, and then Buffy's.
Speaker 6 (03:48):
Like a or that old man down the street. I
hate my neighbor's cat.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
You don't want him getting a hold of little Fife. Yep,
that's good. Nothing but trouble to come go bye bye.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I get that. That is uh, hopefully they do that.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, well, I don't know if they're If they're doing
something like this, chances are they're not going to say, oh, well,
let's just.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Do this after we're closed so nobody sees it.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
I mean, chances are that's probably whenever people probably witness
it or whatever.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
But don't worry they're gently euthanized.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Don't worry, everything will be fine. Oh my gosh, man,
holy cow. Uh.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Anyway, if it there's a holy cow, we will not
feed it through the big cat cow and hamster and
holy ham.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Okay. So this titan submersible, the implosion. I everybody remembers
this story, and quite frankly, I didn't think there was
really anything left to kind of put a bow on
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
But this kind of does that, I guess. Alex.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Yeah, So there's this new three hundred and thirty five
page report out from the US Coast Guard that they've
been doing an investigation about a year ago. They had
hearings on it and they're now out with it. They
did this two week hearing and then put together the report.
And you remember this, this was a titan that was
going down to the Titanic. It disappeared in twenty twenty three,
and for a long time people thought, well, maybe they're
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alive and they're in it and they're stuck at the
bottom or bobbing around on the top, and no, they
imploded and they were gone. But the big focus of
the findings from the Coastguard are that ocean Gate and
their CEO stocked in Rush that they ignored all kinds
of warnings and threatened anybody who would bring up worries
about safety that with lawsuits and other things to make
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them go away. He said before he died that he
thought he was a pioneer for the way he was
doing it. I'd like to be remembered as an innovator.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
The carbon fiber a titanium, there's a rule you don't
do that.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
Well, I did a rule you don't use carbon fiber,
and it was a carbon fiber that killed everybody on board.
The Rush was so warned about as not being appropriate
for the job and not safe that then led to
killing all five who were on the Titan when it
gave up a way under the intense pressure so far
under the water. So these findings they highlight. Many spoke
up about warning signs beforehand that they had said, hey,
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don't do this. The chair of the board that investigated
it for the Coastguard and looked into the Titans saying, this.
Speaker 7 (06:12):
Incident was from the boards from you were absolutely preventable,
and when we looked at the evidence the board fields,
it was actually predictable.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
So that they could have predicted that this is what
was going to go on. That he was told it
wasn't safe, that stocked and Rush, that the carbon fire
fiber was giving warnings based on the sounds that it
was giving and rips that they had in it. He
didn't care for it. They kept going. They opted not
to get the vessels certified because it likely would not
have been approved. It was built out of off the
shelf stuff like the PlayStation controller to drive it, which
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is just like any old PlayStation controller that they were using,
and other items. His employees raised all kinds of worries,
saying this wasn't good, so this report out. They say
that he gave a false sense of security, misrepresented Titans
safety to those who paid to go on the trips.
He claimed there were safety margins, misled on testing that
had been done. He exaggerated the number of test dives
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that they had done, and that this would have been
criminal if Stockton Rush were still alive, if he had
not been on there, and it would have imploded that
he would have been facing charges somehow.
Speaker 7 (07:14):
The master of the vessel had survived this incident, the
board feels that that would have raised two level that
should be looked at for seen as Manswater.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Yeah, and Mark, they found that they stored this thing
in a parking lot during the off season, not even
taking care to cover it or to try to preserve
the carbon fiber that leading up to the implosion during
the rough season out in the waters when they weren't
diving that for seven months it was outdoors, sitting in
a parking lot, and then they just reactivated it and
put it back in the water. And so that this
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report just blew everybody's mind of just the negligence that
went into this. Oceangate responded second offers condolences to the
families of those who died, and that the company permanently
wound down operations and the die that they were doing
after the implosion. But pretty incredible and what the Coast
Guard put together, finding that Stockton Rush just continually ignored
all the warning signs and decided to go anywhere.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
The way I see it, this was inevitable.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Let's say they would have, you know, they did this
dive and they came back up, and you know, Stockton
would have been going told you I'm a pioneer.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I want to be remembered.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
She did over and over again. They coudn't go down,
and he would come back up and say, see it works,
even though everybody was saying all those pinging noises, those
were the carbon fibers snapping while they were down there,
and it was only a matter of time before enough
snapped and they gave way.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
So it's inevitable.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
The guy, for whatever reason, I guess, was just denying
any kind of science or the type of stuff that
the feedback that was coming saying, uh, this is gonna
be catastrophic, you know, kind of a thing. The other
part that's really sad about this, I believe, if I
remember this right, his wife was supposed to go and
then she didn't go, and his son went in her place.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
Yeah, one of the passengers on board his Stockton Rush.
Your son wasn't on board, but one of the passengers, Yeah,
I thought it was his wife.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
No, one of the passengers in their family has put
out a statement in the last twenty four hours or so,
you know, saying that they hope that this is essentially
a learning opportunity based on all of this. But yeah,
that this was a CEO who said, no, that the
established way of doing it, that it was an old
school way and that he was going to be the
pioneer and find a new way to get down the
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deep depths of the ocean and all the other you
remember James Cameron and everybody else going, man, this isn't right,
like there are certain shortcuts you can't take in this,
and he was doing it and they all died.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah, I'm blown away that somebody that smart.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
And you know, he was obviously intelligent, not not all
the way I mean, I guess he couldn't be classified
as like ultra intelligence or else. He wouldn't have just
you know, thrown caution into the wind here. But when
you know, it's not like you know, law like physics
had had changed or they discovered something. It was just
like him going I'm defying. He was just so defiant
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and almost like fitting. It's like, okay, well you're going
to be that stupid. Well this is what happens. And
unfortunately there's people won't win him.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Yeah that pay the people who were paying. And they
were told nope, that all these safety mechanisms are in
place and all these warnings, it would get us up
before there would be a problem, and it's been tested
and it's been approved. This way, none of it and
they say that it was all exaggerated.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah, yeah, all right for the very latest on this,
Alex Stone, Thank you very much, Alex Stone, ABC News
out of Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
You guys get to one hundred.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Yet, No, probably tomorrow. What are we at right now?
Ninety four? Right now? Tomorrow's are like one hundred, five
hundred and six.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
Day.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Oh man, enjoy that. Thank you put Wess and Oil on.
It's really awesome.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
I'm putting it on right now and they're ready for it.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Oh, what's nice? Man? You got any video? Alex, thank
you very much to see you. Man. Sorry, Chuck, you're
like you done yet worthy?
Speaker 7 (10:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Sorry, Sorry, I'm just sitting here thinking, you know, I'm
sorry for the loss of life and everything else. But
if somebody tells me they're going to take me under
the sea and they're running the machine with a PlayStation controller,
I'm out.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
I'm out. There's no way I ever would have even
gone in the know. No.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
It's like when you talk about somebody like Stocked and
RUSSI and how intelligent he was, it's not like he
probably had this kind of shoulder shrug when you ask
him about it. He probably had some legitimate answer that sound,
and you're like, there's no way this guy's this stupid,
you know, I mean he convinced it.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Not only convinced him, but these people paid. Hey, we're
gonna pay to go die. That's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Hey, back to the zoo thing we were talking about
with Denmark and all that. Hey, Jen, welcome to the show.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
Hi, how are you?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Hey good? Thank you, Thank you for listening.
Speaker 8 (11:39):
Yes, I love you. You know I'd listened to it going
home every day, so you guys are amazing.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Thank you.
Speaker 8 (11:46):
The horses of the United States people don't know this,
but a lot of them do go for meet I
don't know if you're aware of, but there's function call
over the United States. Kill buyers will go buy horses
like Little Duo. They gets tired of her horses and
it's auctions. They can tell us to buy it and
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ride in blah blah, and these kill buyers by them
all the time. They get shipped to either Canadarmxico where
they're butcher because it's illegal to punch of horses in
the United States anymore, so they're go the hall trailer rides.
They either KNA Darmoxy House. They get slaughtered as a
large amount of the gopher zoo meat.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Oh, they do, so they slaughter them and then use
them as meat at the zoo. And you're talking about
Canada or Mexico.
Speaker 8 (12:35):
Or what have you. All right, they'll ship it back
in or they're shipping overseas, and some of it does
go to like freeance people. It's a delicacy to some people.
I'm not sure all the country, but they want horse
meat or food tea.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
I had not heard this, and Jen, thank you very much.
I hadn't heard that. Boy, I is it bad that
I'm like, all right, I'm putting my head back in
the sand.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
I just I'm how do you go through? Hey, what
do you do for a living? And I'm a kill buyer.
I couldn't even have that job because of the title
a kill buyer. I go buy things specifically to kill them.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Well, when you're talking about an animal like a horse,
it seems so much worse than a kill buyer who's
buying cattle.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
I mean, right, you know where they're ultimately going to
end up. Yeah, pigs, chickens.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
I mean, and horses are used insomuch as well. Glue
and gelatine and all kinds of things, and I know that,
but I don't. I think it's just the crassness of
the zoo saying, hey, bring us your unwonted pets so
we can feed the animals.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
That just something. It just seems very unclean about that, right.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
That's why it's happening in Denmark. And if it's happening here,
it's not as publicized.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
I guess right, I get way keep it under wraps, definitely,