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September 3, 2025 13 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, here we go, Way we go.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Thank you for listening, Mark Plazer, Chuck Douglas, Zach attack
behind the glass. I still can't, you know. Chuck walks in.
He's got hair, and it's like I look up and
I'm just like, wow, he still has it because you
had it yesterday for a minute when you came back

(00:23):
and Zach, did you see him today? I mean he's uh,
still looking like the same Chuck with hair and everything. Yeah, greetings, Yeah,
it looks great. Sorry, I'm talking like you not even
you're like, you know, I'm sitting here right.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
That's okay. I wanted to give you greetings anyway. In fact,
I give greetings to all, even the bold among you.

Speaker 4 (00:42):
Greetings.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Oh boy, here we go, Here we go, Here we go.
So let's start with now.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
You have a video, of course on socials, and it
is you going into Vanscoy yesterday in Cleveland. You go
and you go in and you were like top secret
place and you're like, oh wait, I guess not.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
It's on the front of the building. So yeah, you're
not really hiding it from anyway. It's not like a
mid in black go in there and disappear in an
elevator or anything.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
But after you're done, they hold that little flashy pin
thing up at you.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
Yes, you're like, you will not remember being bald.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
So you go in and you're talking about, you know,
how nervous you were and all of these different things.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
But how long? I have questions if I may.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
It's a hell of a change. I can't deny that
it is. The weight loss was gradual.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
This is not. This is like I I.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Opened my eyes and I saw somebody different. This is
it's there's a little adjustment going on right now.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Did you And one of the things I ask you
was you know the grandkids, you know were they were
they like, you know or you know.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
You have hair?

Speaker 4 (02:04):
I said, yes, I have hairs.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Good, it's pretty, which is way better than.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
You know, like they start freaking out, like because you
don't look like my ball ball, you know or whatever.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Only side eye that I got last night was from Lupa,
and after I fed her, everything was good with her.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
So yeah, everybody, and the Queen is quite happy.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
That was the big question that I was was the
Queen happy esses everything?

Speaker 4 (02:28):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (02:28):
I am described as a cross between Sean Connery and
Kenny Rogers. That's that's what we've come up with at
this point. So now I got to start learning a
bunch of Kenny Rogers songs or Sean Connery lines. Kenny Connory.
They bring a knife, you bring a Goden. They put
one of your ols in the hospital. You put one
of those in the morgue. That's the Chicago way.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
Yeah, I like it, man, that's good.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Yeah, it's but as I told you, I got up
this morning and sat up on the bed, the mirrors
right there in front of me, and I looked at
myself and I had the hair when Phil Mlou messed
up Barney's hair was also that's how I woke up
this morning.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
And my first thought was, oh lord, what was I thinking?

Speaker 3 (03:09):
But you know, then I went in the bathroom brushed
my hair and stuff went oh yeah, I remember now,
but yeah, that was that was kind of a shock
first thing this morning.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
You bring up a good point when we were talking
before and went on you go you know or wait
did you just say, oh, you just said it on
the air, sorry, that the weight.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Loss was gradual.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, and the hair is like you woke up yesterday
bald and then you came.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Home with hair.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yeah, And so the way you described that it was
gonna happen was you said they were gonna, you know,
kind of it's probably wasn't going to be the full
transformation yesterday. It was going to just kind of get
it started. Well, well this is it.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
I didn't expect them to do everything they did yesterday.
And I thought it was just going to be kind
of a consultation, evaluation. Let's look at what we're working
with here and that kind of thing. And Debbie, who
is the stylist, she she said, yeah, I can work.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
With this, no problem. So I said, okay, go for it.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
So they put they put what So how do they
attach it? If I can act?

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Elmer's glue is what it's the gorillica. It's a surgical
surgical adhesive.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Okay, and.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
You know essentially it's just bonded to your head.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
The hairline looks it looks real.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
Ye.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
They scope out I mean that was part of the
thing crazy, the shape of your head and where the
former hairline would have been, and they sketched that out.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
And then sharp to they just do a shark like a.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Wax pencil or something like that wipes off easy enough.
But and then they just mold everything to fit where
it once was.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
I can't get over.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
And I just got about forty five minutes ago as
with someone from high school, and and this first time,
obviously she's seen it, and she went, wow, it looks great.
So this is somebody who knew me forty five years ago, right.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
And well, I knew you what thirty five years ago when?
And your hair was obviously dark and really tight, little
little curls and little so it doesn't look like that
type of hair.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
It's got some curl to it, but I've got it,
you know, brushed back and sprayed.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
It's got a little it's got a little curl still
to it.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
The beauty was they matched the white, which I just thought,
that's phenomenal. They were able to match my white natural
hair with.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
This, yeah, which is on the sides in the rear
to that.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
And so when they attached this, you said it was long.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Oh yeah, the hair was really long.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
It looked like a refugee from the grateful dead. They
had to, you know, cut ever get any pictures of that? No,
it was like that. They probably did because they were
snapping pictures and video the whole time.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
You should have had got some pictures of.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
That mister Todd van Skoy and company up there with
pictures going off left and right, so they probably have
a picture of me looking like I was. You know,
Jerry Garcia's stand in it, and Todd actually goes, you know,
you could have long hair if you want. I'm like, no,
I'm too old for that. Yeah, I'm just I gotta
be reasonable.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
So I feel like if you tried long hair with
that type of hair, it would have been thin, kind
of stringy, almost proper lack of a better description, because
you want it realistic.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
I mean, I'm not hiding anything. I'm being real open
with this because I think it's it's kind of cool.
It's it's a cool transformation. And you know, as I
said in the commercial, it's not about vanity. Women put
on makeup and lipstick and eyeshadow and all that crap,
and man puts on a new suit of white shirt,
and you do what you can to be able to
look in the mirror and see something you're proud of
that you like. Right, So this is just one of

(06:37):
those things to go along with everything else I'm doing. Yeah,
and your approval quite frankly, I stopped by here yesterday
before I went home, and your approval meant a lot
to me because I knew you were so skeptical.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
I really was, I'll say, s worried.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
I was going to come in here with some mullet
looking Joe dirt not nos no, no.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
No, no no.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
I thought it was just going to look hokey. I'm
gonna say, I'm gonna say it. Listen, and people listening
right now you know exactly what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
You see people, you see people in public that have
fake care. I could spot it a mile away.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Typically guy's got a rug.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Or something surgically like stitched to their head and it's
goofy looking.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
I say it.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
I don't think if somebody met me for the first
time today, I don't think they look at me and go, oh,
that's not real.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
No, they wouldn't look twice. They wouldn't think twice. It blent.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
That's what blew me away is how well it is
integrated right into the chuck that I've known for thirty
five plus years, and including the guy for most of
which has been bald.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
And it's better than that AI image too.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
I way better. I like this way better than that.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
I notice here's the biggest deal. When I looked in
the mirror at this I noticed a change, not just
in the hair, but my face. I don't know, I
just I there was a a piece a happiness reflected
on my face. My face has looked very downtrodden, even
when I tried to smile the past few years, I
look I look sad. And I looked at myself yesterday,

(08:12):
I'm like, you don't look sad anymore.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
I don't. I know, well, I mean I didn't really see.
I didn't. I'm not really seeing what you just described
there with regard to the sad.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Well that okay, if you try to look sad, you're
saying even when I smile, I look sad.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
I didn't really pick up on that. But I can
tell you.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
The thing that I even told Zach I go you know,
if I was telling him, I'm like, if he comes
in and it looks silly, I would probably reserve any
kind of assessment on the air, just kind of leave
it and let you talk, and so on and so forth.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
I was just going to, you know, be support if
you will.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
But if you also would have taken me across the hall,
closed door and said Chuck Man, that's not well.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
If you would have said, I wouldn't have even just
come right out and said that I'm not that kind
of a person. If something like this, that's so, it's
very different, very changing. If you would have said, so
what if you would have pointed Blake said, so, what
do you think? I'm not known for candy coating. I
just never have been to a fault. Ask my wife.
I mean, I I am not a guy that'll be like, yeah,

(09:23):
you look skinny if I don't think it looks I mean,
I'm not going to come right out and be a jerk.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
And just an a hole and say to somebody. But
if you, if you ask me, I'm going to tell
you what I'm thinking.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
I expect that, and that's all I ever wanted from
anybody for now. If you just come right out and
attack somebody and go, man, you look stupid, well they
didn't ask.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
I feel like, man, that's really mean.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, somebody ask you your opinion on something and you don't.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Especially you and I, Man, we go way back. So
I would have been honest, and I'm being honest. I
was like, man, you saved ten.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
You're like fifty, You're like six forty eight like you,
I mean instantly like Boom.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
That matters too, because the question I couldn't believe it.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
The queen is you know, I've also been open about
that she's younger than I am. I mean, not twenty
years or anything, but you know, we've got a little
over a decade between us, and you know, I look
at her and I see this beautiful, wonderful wife, and
I did not want her to have some you know,
shlock looking grumpy old man, yeah, standing next to her.

(10:27):
So that that was part of it too.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
I'll be honest, man, I was nervous, not as nervous
as you, because I watched your video. I was nervous,
not as nervous as you, but I was nervous for you.
And then I also was nervous because I'm connected with
you now, and so I was nervous for me having
to talk about it, like I was, like, you know,
but I just I'm completely blown away at their ability

(10:54):
to do what they did. Now that that is a
special talent that van Skoy has.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
Oh yeah, I mean it really is. They are all.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
I mean, they've been doing it fifty three, fifty four years.
They're almost on autopilot. It's like they looked at what
they were working with. Here's what we're doing. It wasn't
even And I said, now, does anybody ever come in
here and ask for like a pompadoor from nineteen fifty
eight ors I think goes, yeah, we've had that before,
and we'll do it for you, and you'll ask us
to change it, but we can do whatever you want

(11:23):
done right with the hair. And many people come in
here with those. You know, I want to look like
I did when I was coming out of high school
as possible, and that's just not practical. So you give
them what they want and then hope that they change
their mind.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Pretty cool, Pretty cool. So you're going to you're going
to do a live Facebook lot.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
Yes, I will show the world tonight seven thirty on
my Facebook page. So if I can integrate three that.
I think he can do that on Instagram at the
same time, but I'm not sure. So just stick with
Facebook and I'll be on there at seven thirty tonight
and I will unveil my head for everyone. And yeah,
there's a lot of curiosity out there, the number of
messages and stuff like, man, today, I'm like guys, it's

(12:06):
just my head.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
You're way braver than I and I don't know where
you come down on this, Zach, but like, uh, with
something like this, I probably would not want to make
as big of a deal about the reveal as you're doing.
And although it looks really good, so maybe that's where
you kind of put that to rest. I would be
so afraid people are gonna be like, man, you look

(12:29):
like a dumb ass, like what do you do?

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Like I would just be I'd be terrified, and I'd
be like, I can't believe it they said the mean
stuff about it.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Will always be a few of those, and I you know,
there's been times I put a video up when I
something profound, prolific, kind, heart, rate, whatever. It doesn't matter
what the topic is, and there's always some more on.
I think you have a hair coming out of your nose,
you know, like, really, moron, find something else to gripe about.
Go pay attention to something. Why is it? I don't

(12:58):
know those backhand. It's different when you tell somebody who's
been fat, you go, man, you've lost a lot of weight.
That's a compliment. When you look at somebody and say
you're getting pretty skinny, that's not necessarily a compliment. That's
as bad as saying you're getting pretty fat. There's a
proper way to say things. And and honestly, you know,
a comment on a Facebook page that you have a
hair in your nose that's pretty rude.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
It seriously is. But there's always going to be a
few of those.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Right, And those people who do that are the ones
who stalk around on there, and all they're looking for
is a way to tear someone down or.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Make themselves feel Oh yeah, that's all that.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
Yeah, they too know that they are. They are very
adcent people. But anyway, tonight seven thirty on Facebook, I'll
do a live and then seriously, if you need hair,
male or female, it's thinning, it's going or whatever. Vanscoy
hair dot com is the website. Go check them out.
All the different methods they have of doing this.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Incredible.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
It's uh yeah, it is a it's an impressive group
of people of impressive process.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah, that's cool stuff, really really cool.
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