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August 21, 2025 12 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You've got big plans for the weekend.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
I'm going to enjoy it. That's it.

Speaker 3 (00:04):
It's going to be beautiful, the weather is going to
be perfect. As I said earlier, I don't know why,
but I am having a tremendous day today. I just
I feel wonderful and I want to go into the
weekend continuing that.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
That's what you were saying.

Speaker 4 (00:17):
You said before we went on the MIC's were on
yet We're not on yet, and you were.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Like, I am having an amazing day today.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Plus here I am sitting doing what I love the
most in life. And I told you during one of
the breaks, it just occurred to me. Today's my anniversary.
It's the second year anniversary and my return to iHeart.
So yeah, all the stars are just lined up today
for some reason.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Love it. Then it gets messed up with this next guest.

Speaker 4 (00:44):
Well, I got to let him defend himself. Now Eric
Delbert's joining us. Now that's just wrong.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Man.

Speaker 5 (00:51):
You know I was going to start off by saying
how much I enjoy talking to some of my two favorite.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
People, Zach and Mark.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Now it's one favorite me.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
I actually used to be as two favorite people.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
But you're now one person, Jock, you've lost almost a
whole person. Franklin County judges, and I'm talking about Eric
Delbert of course. Host I'm on target, owner of l
EPD Firearms and Range over there on Bethel Road. Franklin
County judge has sided with the state ruling that Ohio
can restrict Columbus and other cities from passing local gun regulations.

(01:27):
Imagine that Eric, that Columbus is not allowed to just
shoot from the hip if you will, and be like, no, no,
we don't like what the state.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
We're just gonna do what we want to do.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
But anyway, this is a This is definitely a win
for US gun toting people.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
It's definitely a win.

Speaker 5 (01:44):
It is. And you know, it's only about the third
or fourth time we've been through this now two times
has gone up to the Ohio Supreme Court, so really
not a surprise. But it's just I don't know how
guys they can continue who use taxpayers' money Columbus, Cleveland,
Cincinnati to argue this point. They get smacked down every time,

(02:07):
and it's at our expense. But nonetheless, a great ruling
today for this week.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
Yeah, it's a the judge is is it Sarah or Sarat.
I don't even know how you say it, Judge, Mark
Sirih Sarah. Is it okay?

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Which, by the way, they point out he's a Democrat.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yes, because he's.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
And I've said this on the air many times, he's
also one of the most fair minded judges down there.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Democrat or not.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
And look, I just point this out simply because when
you think democrat, judge, you don't think one who's friendly
to the Second Amendment, right, you just don't.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
I mean, and look, that is what it is. I'm
not saying he is guilty of this or whatever.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
I'm just saying you don't typically say there they are
in favor of stuff like this. But let it be
known that this is a guy who is going off
of his interpretation of the law, and so he granted
the state So mary judgment and decision filed on August nineteen,
he ruled against Columbus's argument that the state law violates

(03:07):
the home rule amendment of the Ohio Constitution that allows
municipalities to enact laws to protect the safety of their residents.
I love the age yost is celebrating an x earlier,
saying the judge hammered the city for its defiance, and yeah, man,
it's and to your point, Eric too, like a couple

(03:27):
of different times, now this has been you know, a
point of contention, and so it looks like at this point,
so will there be another version or something else?

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Will this end up in court again?

Speaker 5 (03:41):
I'm sure it will. I mean they continue to try
to go after it and get a different answer, and
my hat's off. Like you guys said to the judge,
I mean, I don't care what political party he's from.
I want him to look at the law, look at
the constitutions. He might not agree with it, but he
ruled as he should have, and that that's how we

(04:02):
should be. I mean, it's it's, you know, admirable these
days to see that happen. And so it's good. I mean,
it's a good thing for us, it's a good thing
for the citizens. And as we were talking about, I
was actually on a different interview earlier today with a
national person and we were saying that it's it really
goes to show that these politicians, they don't they're focused

(04:28):
on the wrong things. I mean, we would get behind
them if they brought sensible suggestions to the table that
would have effects in our streets. But they continue to
do these off the wall laws that they want to
try to get past that has no backing, and then
they get smacked down again. So it'll be interesting to
see how they go forward. We invited as a side note,

(04:49):
city prosecutors that clined to our radio show. We'll see
how it goes.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
As I noticed in a way a protest client plans
on now banning mental ammunition.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Which should go over real well in Columbus.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
Yes, yeah, to your point, Zach Klein said in a statement,
it is far from the end of the road in
the battle over oh this is a red flag. Whenever
gun laws and the word common sense is around gun laws,
the words gun laws, it's usually a no go. And
that's what he said here, And it's far from the
end of the road and the battle over common sense

(05:20):
gun laws. We will use every tool we have to
defend the rights of cities like Columbus to enact reasonable
regulations to protect our children and citizens from senseless gun violence.
But at the same time, he goes on to say,
we need lawmakers and our governor to summon the political
will to make even the most minimal changes to our
gun laws like requiring firearms to be stored safely in

(05:42):
homes with children. That's the very least we can do
to be a pro safety, pro family state. Again, a
bunch of gobbly gooot that he's saying, do you really
believe that he's going to end up on the show
with you? Has he been on before?

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Eric?

Speaker 5 (05:57):
He has never been on. Okay, But we have some
common people, some people we know in common, and they
say there's a chance, So I mean and honestly, like
we always did, we'd be very cordial with them. We'd
have an honest discussion. And you know, one of the
things that precipitated this was they wanted to ban thirty
round magazines, and I don't know if you remember, at

(06:18):
the time, kind of as a tongue in cheek, and
then it got some bigger attention. We said, okay, well,
if thirty rounds is bad, if you know, the almighty
people down in the city Hall say thirty rounds is bad, well,
then twenty nine has to be okay. So we sold
a product for GZ six months in there where it
would limit the number of rounds in the magazine to
twenty nine. But it was just a kind of a

(06:41):
tongue in cheek type of thing. But at the time,
there was absolutely zero evidence they could provide to say
that thirty round magazines were being found at the scenes
of crimes and that's why we're doing it. I mean,
it had no merit, no factual basis whatsoever.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
Chuck brought up earlier that now the I guess the
trajectory would be menthol cigarettes, Chuck, I mean.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Yeah, I mean they're legal in the state of Ohio,
just as as guns are legal, just as a thirty
round magazine. This should have, you know, repetitive effects on
other ridiculous minutia that Columbus has tried to It's like
they think they're their own country. They can start making
up sub rules within the rules, and you know, I'd
like to see all that fall apart, including menthol cigarettes,

(07:28):
which I think is blatantly a racist policy quite frankly.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Yeah, and you don't smoke menthol.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
No, but eighty five percent of mental smokers are black people. Yes,
So I mean, when you outlaw menthol cigarettes in this city.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
What are you outlawing?

Speaker 1 (07:43):
You're affecting.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
You're either making them illegal for everybody, or you're making
them illegal for one group of people, and I think
that's that's a problem.

Speaker 5 (07:51):
Yeah, but I'll tell you what, Chuck, us being sitting
here not in the city of Columbus, our mental cigarette
sales have gone through the roosting for them.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
I'm not surprised.

Speaker 5 (08:03):
Man.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
You ought to use that more often too, the fact
that you were in the township and not in the
city of Columbus, because I think that would probably increase
the number of people through your doors.

Speaker 5 (08:11):
Yeah. We were just talking about that the other day
as well, back in the COVID days where mass man
dates were all around, but that that did not apply
to us.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
Yeah, you guys, definitely I think you benefited from that.
Or did most people come in thinking they were supposed
to have one on and were they surprised, Like you
guys here going Look, you guys, if you want to
wear one, great, If you don't, don't wear.

Speaker 5 (08:34):
One, you know, And that's what we did. I mean
we I mean, you know, for a small period of
time there, we didn't I mean, no one really knew
what was going on, so we kind of complied just
because jeez, we didn't know. But once it kind of
became apparent to that Okay, that's crazy. We were one
of the early ones to say, you know.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
Option I'd like to hear too, Zach Klein in that
in your forum, try to defend what exactly, you know,
why are they try to do this and go against
you know, the state as a whole, kind of like
the way Chuck put it, why do you guys think
Columbus is its own entity? Like?

Speaker 1 (09:08):
What is that?

Speaker 4 (09:09):
Why?

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Why are you guys continuing to do this? What?

Speaker 4 (09:12):
What? What do they have against that? Is it the
obvious that there are they're crazy liberals and so as
a result they got to be anti gun?

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Is that mainly?

Speaker 4 (09:23):
And they're just like, we're just trying to make it
as difficult as we can for anybody to own.

Speaker 5 (09:26):
Yeah, And the irony is is we are probably one
of the most vocal entities to want to keep guns
out of the hand of the bad guys. I mean,
we're out there. I would I would even go a
step further and say we wanted, we want that. We're
passionate about that more than they are. Yet when we
look at like the case of the Mifflin Township officers

(09:47):
who were shot by that guy who had a block switch.
He had a manufactured machine gun that is an you know,
instantaneous prison time and gets community control if if you know,
prosecutor client wants to have an impact. That's what we
should be doing. Is those thugs out there that are
causing havoc on the street, not the law abiding citizens

(10:10):
such as us and you guys.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
Yet that's who they go after, the law abiding right,
I mean, that's every It seems like that's always the fight.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
It's always against the people who are towing the line.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
You know. Yeah, the laws only affect law abiding people.
Eat right, people who break laws don't care what. You
can pass any law you want. No breathing allowed, it's
the law. Well you know what, if you want to breathe,
you're going to breathe. It doesn't matter what your laws say.
And the uh you know again like the thirty round magazine,
no stats. In fact, the year that that began, the FBI,

(10:41):
what was it, Eric Gubb, more homicides were committed by
hands and feet than we're committed by rifles of any
kind in this country.

Speaker 5 (10:48):
Yeah, it is that that stat, Chuck, has stood the
test of time for the last ten to fifteen years. Hands,
fist and feet more people die at you know, by
hands fisting feet every year than all rifles combined, not
just the scary ones, the scary ars, all rifles. I mean,
that's the FBI stats. It's not something we're cherry picking
out there.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
You've been in law enforcement a while, Eric, that seventy
five vehicles that were vandalized overnight. Did you see I'm
sure you saw that or whatever, but I don't even
know if you have a thought on it. But it's
alarming and shocking that that many vehicles, everything, all of
that happened overnight. That's a that's a syndicate going on there.
It's like, what, it's crazy.

Speaker 5 (11:29):
It is crazy. It is crazy, and I hope with
more and more, I mean we're seeing this in the
news all the time, whether it be the hotels of
players or wherever it may be. I hope people get
the word that, geez, do not leave a firearm in
that vehicle. Yeah, I mean, this is where the bad
guys are getting them. They're not coming here, they're not
going to our competitors to get them. They're getting them
through these means, and they're having success doing it. That's

(11:51):
why they continue to do So we got to do
a better job as gun owners in that regard.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
There's always an ideal, but from a police officer perspective, Eric,
let me ask you, if your gun is in your
locked glove compartment in your locked car, is that considered
sufficiently secured or do you need to have it in
a locked box in the locked glove compartment in the
locked car.

Speaker 5 (12:12):
Honestly, in this day and age, I would put it
in a locked compartment of source other than just a
locked glove box. I mean, these little handsafs are pretty
inexpensive now. It doesn't take much to put them in
a trunk and tie them down to something metal back there.
I think you're better off that way because I think
they can pry these gloveboxes open pretty quick and install

(12:36):
have access to them.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Right all right.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
He's host of on Targets, owner Laped Firearms and Range
as well, Eric Delbert. Eric, great to talk to you,
Thanks for jumping on with us today, and thanks for
hitting me up actually to talk about this too.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
That's awesome of you.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (12:51):
Yep. Always good to talk to you guys.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
All right, you too, man, Take care
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