Flying first class and the Idaho murders with Alex Stone

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Speaker 2 (03:40):
Alex Stone is joining us now from abcre.

Speaker 7 (03:44):
Was the other thing?

Speaker 2 (03:45):
House Taco?

Speaker 7 (03:46):
Oh, house tacos.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Let me tell you something, those I mean amazing. This
guy is a mad scientist in the kitchen that owns
House Taco. He's been in here before and brought a
house taco hells house no house, like yeah, yeah, like
they're tacos. Okay go yeah, he's a mad scientist. This guy,
he's made some incredible, incredible food in his restaurant and

(04:12):
so he's been so kind as to be involved with this.
And oh man, that place is really really good, I
mean really good.

Speaker 7 (04:21):
I'm flying to Columbus tonight. Some House Tacos?

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Is that that he needs to put you in his advertising?
You do that?

Speaker 7 (04:29):
Because you can clip that right now and use that.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
In the future, Delta Airlines will begin serving Are you ready?
Do you fly Delta much else? I do.

Speaker 8 (04:40):
I am trying to make my move to United right now.
But but I know what you're gonna say, but go
ahead and say it.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
They're beginning to serve shake shot cheeseburgers next one. Yeah,
I'm gonna get in on this. I have a Delta
Airlines flight booked for Vegas and February, and so I'm
I will definitely be sinking my teeth into a shake
Ze cheeseburger while I'm flying the friendly Scots. Well, I
got bad news for you. Oh no, I told me

(05:06):
first class. I am sitting first classy good?

Speaker 7 (05:09):
Yes, hoy ploy like that? Yes you got it?

Speaker 8 (05:11):
Hey now, And it's beginning only out of Boston Logan,
but as the gear goes on, they will progressively roll
it out to more markets. So hopefully, hopefully they'll have
it by that time.

Speaker 9 (05:21):
Of the first class.

Speaker 8 (05:24):
First you need to fly to Boston and then take
the flight out of Boston just to get the hamburger
on board.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
I didn't think about that. Yes, I got a I'm.

Speaker 6 (05:33):
Sorry, I feel like I have to extend my bottom
lip like this to speak with you.

Speaker 8 (05:36):
Now.

Speaker 9 (05:36):
I don't know you were flying first class?

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Levey, No, I ended up? Did I pay full price?

Speaker 9 (05:43):
Ask me that did you pay for?

Speaker 8 (05:45):
No?

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Are you kidding me? I'm way too cheap for that. Yeah,
good man, I am back.

Speaker 7 (05:49):
You're using credit card miles, aren't you.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
I'm using a myriad of things. And it was. And
by the way, it's not a direct flight from Columbus
on Delta. They don't offer that today through Boston. I'm
not even sure where it's through.

Speaker 7 (06:01):
I just know the first probably Atlanta.

Speaker 6 (06:03):
I'm maybe I'd have to look, but like seven hour
layover in Haiti?

Speaker 9 (06:08):
Is that you look forward to that?

Speaker 2 (06:10):
We're taking fire. We're taking fire? Oh man? Uh? No
I I it's only on the first leg that I
got for class.

Speaker 8 (06:21):
You mean even just when you're going it's only on
one leg, just one direction, you mean just one leg
of it.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
One leg of the of the flights all the night,
the first one of two. I don't know how to
say it.

Speaker 8 (06:33):
I'm selling the one that is like thirty minutes and
you don't get a meal or anything.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
That's not the case.

Speaker 7 (06:41):
Yeah, on that one.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, it is. Uh no, I think the now I
got to figure it out.

Speaker 6 (06:47):
After your layover, you were going to sit and coach
and hate yourself.

Speaker 9 (06:52):
Why didn't I just do the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah, well, because if you do the whole thing, you
want to talk about getting hit over the head. Yeah,
I know.

Speaker 6 (06:59):
But once you tasted it, it's hard to all, especially
during the same trip, for goodness.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Am, Yeah, especially with my wife, because she's gonna go really,
that's it, that's all. And I'm like, oh, don't act
like you've said that to me before.

Speaker 9 (07:12):
I know that that is the problem.

Speaker 7 (07:14):
It is my wife today.

Speaker 8 (07:16):
I booked last night when I was watching the CMA Awards,
I went, I wonder if Brooks and Donner's still touring
and I looked, and they're going to be near us
in March. So went on and they're going to be
at a music festival, and uh, and booked it. And
but we can't do regular seats, right, You got to
the VIP section regular seats. Yeah, she wants to go,
but not not in the regular area. You go, Wait,

(07:37):
that makes it three times a price.

Speaker 7 (07:38):
Why do that?

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Once you once you taste it one time, you got
to have it again? It's like first class on a plane.

Speaker 9 (07:44):
Man.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
So I will tell you literally, the first time I ever, ever,
ever flew, I had it was to La Guardia from
Columbus and it was on America West. I mean, that's
how long ago. And I had a free upgrade to
first class Fila Mignon served, believe it or not, and

(08:06):
the flight was not very long. I couldn't believe. That's
back when they used to do what they're supposed to
do the air back in the day, back in the day.
And that was the first time I flew and it
was first class. And after that it's been all downhill
ever since.

Speaker 8 (08:19):
Now you squeeze into a tiny seat in the back
and they've got the seat in front of you right
up against your knees. I just I have not been
to LaGuardia since they have redone it, and I was
there about a week ago and it is beautiful now.
They completely redid it. And LaGuardia used to be a
terrible airport. I mean it was it was kind of
the charm of New York. But you would fly in
there and it just was so gross and so bad.

(08:40):
But they completely redid the terminal and now it's like
a brand new airport. It's gorgeous, like a shopping mall.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Oh okay, interesting. Yeah, I.

Speaker 6 (08:50):
Was always intimidated by Laguardian just because of the traffic.
That's that's a lot of in and out up there.
Same same way I felt about Oh Hair, you know,
fly flight. If you're going to go going to Midway,
there's I just less traffic is better for me.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah, I'm trying to look at the Oh, for the
love of God, come on Christmas.

Speaker 9 (09:12):
You're not trying to book on America West again, are you?

Speaker 5 (09:14):
No?

Speaker 7 (09:14):
Okay, that's not gonna work.

Speaker 6 (09:17):
I got your discount vouchro here for People's Express if
that'll help.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
I'm trying to look where my my first flight is.
I got a new phone and I gotta log back
into everything now you know how it goes.

Speaker 8 (09:30):
Yeah, I'm gonna put money on that. It's probably Atlanta,
but maybe Salt Lake City.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Salt Lake City being the Delta hubs, salt Lake, Cyah,
so it's a seven first Lake is pretty good. Then
so all the way seven forty five is when we leave,
and then yeah to ten oh seven, But I don't
know if that stays in our time zone. I think
Salt Lake is is central, isn't it?

Speaker 9 (09:50):
Is it?

Speaker 7 (09:50):
Stay mountain Mountain?

Speaker 6 (09:51):
Okay, so you can hang out for a while, visit
a few Osmond's, get back on a plane, go to
your destiny.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Oh there you go. Salt Lake to Vegas is very quick.
So yeah, most of the flight is first class because
I was able.

Speaker 8 (10:03):
Oh yeah, it's over nine hundred miles. That's where they're
cut off. So you'll get a you'll get an actual meal.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
I won't be getting a cheeseburger from Shakeshet.

Speaker 7 (10:11):
Though you might.

Speaker 8 (10:13):
We don't know yet if it's gonna it'll begin and
buy Boston Logan and then expand as.

Speaker 7 (10:16):
The gear goes on.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
We'll keep our fingers crossed.

Speaker 8 (10:18):
You know what they're not doing though, it's French fries,
whether you get chips, because this is a minority knowledge
that some of the airlines have figured out how to
start doing this. But fried food does not warm up
well when they put it into the ovens, right, so
they've never quite figured out how to do like crunchy,
you know, good enough French fries and they're not all
soggy when they put them into the on board oven.

(10:40):
So in this case, you get the cheeseburger, but you
get chips with surprise.

Speaker 9 (10:44):
They don't have air fryers in there already.

Speaker 7 (10:46):
Yeah, maybe one day they'll figure that.

Speaker 6 (10:47):
And if they're doing this out of Boston, I mean, honestly,
wouldn't it make sense to maybe you have a Wallburger's
hook up instead?

Speaker 2 (10:53):
There's that good point. Well, if this goes well, look
for that to start. Yeah, and all of the Burger
places for that matter.

Speaker 8 (11:00):
It was quite a long commercial for Delta Airlines and yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Wow, none of us got a nickel of copety.

Speaker 9 (11:07):
Very hungry for a good cheeseburger.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah, five guys, you got it. I mean that's good.
You have those out there, Yeah, we got those. Those
cost a million dollars here. It's probably a million and
a half there for those. Yeah. So the judge in Idaho,
the college murder case, the Idaho college murder case, refusing
to toss out the death penalty, which could be the
firing squad, and Chuck brought this up earlier. Let's see,

(11:31):
And what were you you were saying?

Speaker 6 (11:34):
I was wondering what else they had out there, if
they still had hanging. But I've been doing some googling
and looking away or find out what states do what,
and hanging doesn't look like it's on the Agendaho.

Speaker 8 (11:43):
No, the firing squad is kind of what they got
now in Idaho because lethal injection was found to be
unconstitutional because of the way it was being done and
that it wasn't always successful in what the drugs were
and the drugs are hard to get in all of that.
So that is part of the motion that they made
where they've been filing for Brian Coberg, or this flurry
of motions with the court challenging everything, and they have

(12:04):
tried and failed most of it. They've tried to get
the indictment tossed out, claiming the indictment was not constitutional.
Now they've tried to get the death penalty tossed out,
claiming it is unconstitutional and that the death penalty in general,
they said, goes against contemporary standards of decency putting somebody
to death. Well, the judge denied that and said the

(12:24):
death penalty will stay and that the prosecutors can go
for it. But they've also claimed that Coburger has not
read his miranda rights when he was arrested in Pennsylvania.
Prosecutors said, yeah, he was and even is recorded asking
am I the only person arrested, which would understand that
he knew he was under arrest and the judge hasn't
ruled on that yet. That they are challenging the DNA

(12:47):
that they received off of a knife sheath and the
genealogy used that found his father and then found him.
That Coberger's team is saying that is not constitutional to
use genealogy. Well, we know it's used all over the
country and all of the world now to find criminals,
and you know, once it leads to the person where
the DNA matches and they found the right person. But

(13:07):
the judge still has a lot to agree on as
for the death penalty or Legal analyst Brian buck Meyer says,
these arguments.

Speaker 9 (13:12):
May be done for now, but at the appellate level,
the defense will re raise them again an attempt to
try to save Brian Coberger's life.

Speaker 8 (13:19):
So they'll come back around again and appeal assuming that
if he is convicted, and when it comes to DNA,
the defense is claiming without that genetic information that led
to his dad, that then Coburger would there wouldn't have
been the request for his phone records, which prosecutors say,
implicate him. So the defense is saying the phone records
should get tossed out. They're challenging the search warrants, especially
of his car, saying police didn't do it properly.

Speaker 7 (13:41):
They want that tossed out.

Speaker 8 (13:42):
So I mean, they're throwing everything against the wall here
trying to get it so then it can unravel on
the technicality the case against him by saying well, that
wasn't legally obtained, and then that was linked to that
and that, and you know, the snowball down the hill.
But at this point they're losing all of their arguments
and we're looking at a trial next summer.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Don't you get to cheer use if you're you know,
you get sentenced to death. Don't you get to choose one?
Or do they choose for you?

Speaker 8 (14:05):
Or I think it depends on the state, Like where
I am in California, you don't get a choice. You're
just gonna get what. They haven't done it in so
long that you're not gonna get anything. But typically you
would have gotten lethal injection before the moratorium was put
on it in Idaho.

Speaker 7 (14:21):
I mean, I.

Speaker 8 (14:22):
Believe technically right now it would be firing squad. But
they're not doing that right now either, So what is it?
In reality? Probably lethal injection, but yeah, I mean there's
a there's a lot we don't.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Know from what I understand. When it is the firing squad,
all the people most all but one have blanks and
so there's only one lethal bullet, if you will that way,
and nobody knows who had the real one, the lethal one.
They do that on purpose because you know, you want
the people that do it to carry this out, not

(14:59):
you know, they're thinking, was I the one? But they
can't ultimately say, oh, I was the one that.

Speaker 9 (15:04):
Killed this guy.

Speaker 6 (15:04):
We used to do that with the electric chair in
Ohio too, didn't We have like three people that all
through a switch and none of them knew which one
of them more was done?

Speaker 7 (15:12):
Yees who killed them?

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (15:14):
I just looked up.

Speaker 8 (15:15):
Lethal injection is a primary method applied to carry out
a capital punishment in Idaho. Should the state not have
the ability to carry out the capital sentence through the
primary method, five days following the issuance of a warrant
of execution of firing squad will be used.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah, and for that, the lethal injection there's been here
in the state of Ohio. For instance, there been the
companies that have those cocktails that drugs are saying we're
not going to sell them to you because we know
what they're being used for. And Chuck was like, well, okay, fine,

(15:48):
well why wouldn't you do you then just uh, you know,
seventy five cent bullet will do the trick, you know.

Speaker 6 (15:55):
And that it ends up being, if you're going to
do it, you put them. It's your favorite movie, put
on the big screen. You're watching your favorite movie, eating
your favorite meal. You ask me, and somebody comes up
behind you. One slug. It's over with. It's quick, it's
not it's not painful. It's probably more sympathetic than your
victim got and.

Speaker 9 (16:14):
And justice is served. Wow.

Speaker 6 (16:16):
Interesting, I think that makes sense. Cheap, well not only cheap,
but just efficient. And it's it shows some mercy, believe
it or not to do it like that, and it
shows shows the family. Look, we said death penalty, you
got death pedals.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
It's over in an instant.

Speaker 9 (16:32):
Yeah, I like.

Speaker 8 (16:33):
Saying, how on guard that guy would be? Oh, I
was thinking somebody who was gonna come in and shoot
him in the back of the head right right sit
they're eating constantly looking around.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yeah, there's that part.

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